Fort Hood shooters were Muslims (surprise!)
Dänk 1010011010
in the shooting of 19+ people at Fort Hood in Texas were Muslims.
Whether they were born Muslim or recently converted is still unknown,
but they were definitely izlamoids.
Izlam is like a virus and should be treated as such. As we have seen,
the Cult transcends ethnicity, and even the most average middle-class
Americans can be brainwashed and turned into jihad zombies.
Strabo
In America I think Islam appeals to the disenchanted and alienated. In
other words, it's a vehicle for anti-American behavior.
I said two things ten years ago: Islam is incompatible with American
culture, values and traditions and screwing around with the Arabs would
invite wholesale revenge.
Muslims should not be in political office or in the military.
I recall that one of the first frags in the Gulf War was a black
Muslim.
hal
yea, Christianity too.
Nicholas
Radical Extremists are to be found in most cultures. They're the
dangerous one's because they rather DIE for *the cause* than LIVE for
the cause.
Any time you hear somebody mention *martyr* in their diatribe, red
flags need to go up, quickly. (and guns at the ready)
SHAHEED
does that word mean anything to you? These are people that live to
die. As Curly would say: crazy motherfuckers.
Nick
5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09
Here come the haters, right on cue...
staten
wrote:
Haters? 11 people are dead murdered execution style, close range by a
Muslim. Who are haters here?
5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09
You are, bubbles. You've jumped to conclusions based on the name of one
of the shooters.
kangarooistan
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who killed 11 people before being shot dead
at Fort Hood, had said Muslims should "rise up" and attack Americans
in retaliation for the US war in Iraq, a former army colleague said
last night.
By Philip Sherwell in New York
Published: 1:41AM GMT 06 Nov 2009
Col Terry Lee, a retired officer who worked with him at the military
base in Texas, described angry confrontations between Maj Hasan and
other officers after he expressed his views.
Maj Hasan was reportedly fighting orders to be deployed to Iraq at the
end of the month, claiming that he was the victim of harassment and
insults because of his Arab background and his faith.
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The major was a psychiatrist who had been treating soldiers returning
from Iraq for post-traumatic stress and alcohol and drug abuse
problems.
"He was making outlandish comments condemning our foreign policy and
claimed Muslims had the right to rise up and attack Americans," Col
Lee told Fox News.
"He said Muslims should stand up and fight the aggressor and that we
should not be in the war in the first place."
He said he was aware that the major had been subject to "name calling"
during heated arguments with other officers.
Maj Hasan's cousin Nader Husan said he was happy working for the
military but did dread deployment to Iraq.
Mr Hasan said his cousin was a US-born Muslim who had joined the
military after high school.
He had served as a psychiatrist at the Walter Reed Army Medical
Center in Washington DC, which treats many badly wounded troops.
"He was a psychiatrist at Walter Reed dealing with the people coming
back and ... trying to help them with their trauma," he said.
He said his cousin had been transferred to Fort Hood in April months
ago and was very reluctant to be deployed to Iraq. "We've known over
the last five years that was probably his worst nightmare," he said.
Published: November 5, 2009
Updated: 23 min. ago
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Fort Hood shootings not first brush with tragedy
05:20 PM CST on Thursday, November 5, 2009
From staff reports
Killeen was the site of one of the nation's most deadly mass shootings
on Oct. 16, 1991. On that day, George Hennard, 35, slammed his truck
through the front window of a Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen.
Yelling, "This is what Bell County did to me," he got out of his truck
and began shooting diners. Within 10 minutes, he had killed 23 people
and wounded more than 20 before committing suicide.
12 dead as soldier opens fire at Fort Hood Army base
Google map: Area where shootings reportedly occurred
Obama laments 'horrific outburst of violence'
Link: Fort Hood facts
Witnesses said the killer strolled through the cafeteria, randomly
selecting victims.
No motive was ever established.
Reportedly a racist and a misogynist, he wrote to a friend in early
1991: "Please give me the satisfaction of one day laughing in the face
of all those mostly white treacherous female vipers." After graduating
from high school, he joined the Navy, then later transferred to the
Merchant Marine,
Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001)
was a United States Army veteran and security guard who was convicted
of bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on April 19,
1995, the second anniversary of the Waco Siege, as revenge or to
inspire a revolt against what he considered a tyrannical federal
government.
The bombing killed 168 people and was the deadliest act of terrorism
within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks.[2]
Military career
In May 1988, McVeigh enlisted in the U.S. Army.[17] He had little
interest in the bar scene, preferring to use his spare time to read
about guns, sniper tactics, or explosives.[18] He once ordered a
"White Power" T-shirt from the KKK in protest against black servicemen
who wore "Black Power" T-shirts around his army camp [19], but was
reprimanded.
He was a decorated veteran of the United States Army, having served in
the Gulf War, where he was awarded a Bronze Star. He had been a top-
scoring gunner with the 25mm cannon of the Bradley Fighting Vehicles
used by the U.S. 1st Infantry Division to which he was assigned. He
served at Fort Riley, Kansas, before Operation Desert Storm. At Fort
Riley, McVeigh completed the Primary Leadership Development Course
(PLDC). McVeigh later would say that the Army taught him how to switch
off his emotions.[6] He had special lifesaving training and may have
saved the life of a comrade who had life-threatening shrapnel wounds.
[20]
McVeigh wanted to join the United States Army Special Forces. After
returning from the Gulf War, he entered the selection program for
United States Army Special Forces to become a SF soldier , but was
quickly dropped from the program after failing to meet the physical
fitness requirements. Shortly thereafter, McVeigh decided to leave the
Army. He was discharged on December 31, 1991.[21] McVeigh was given an
honorable discharge from the Army Reserve in May 1992.
He was convicted of 11 federal offenses, sentenced to death and
executed on June 11, 2001.
Escape_the_Cult_Now
other Obama Thugs decided Lou Dobbs wasn't enough - They are on TV often
declaring their wars and enemies.
Both Anita Dunn, Al Grayson, Valerie Jarrett and other Obama thugs have
declared war and have enemy lists of those they wish dead by inciting this
on TV. ALL Republicans, Conservatives, News Reporters they hate (they
started with Lou Dobb). People willing to fight for their country are
usually republicans. People willing to tear down the country are lefty
wimpy liars. If a soldier was involved he or she was only acting under
orders from Dunn Grayson, Jarrett and Pelosi, and Obama. None of which has
made an effort to our young soldiers begging for help in Afghanistan and who
CONTINUALLY appear on TV declaring to their base who THEIR ENEMIES ARE and
they DECLARED WAR on them.
Escape_the_Cult_Now
"5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09" <de...@dead.com> wrote in message
news:uPudnenuPPdPGm7X...@posted.carinet...
YOU are the idiot in addition to being dead. The shooter was a life-long
Muslim.
Travoltron
> You are, bubbles. You've jumped to conclusions based on the name of one
> of the shooters.
He was disciplined for pushing Islam onto his patients. This has been
reported in the media. So you apologists will have to find a new angle.
Lib Loo
"Nicholas" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:d4u6f5li1pihshvb5...@4ax.com...
She'd sleep with anyone.
Dänk 1010011010
wrote:
> "5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com> wrote in messagenews:uPudnenuPPdPGm7X...@posted.carinet...
Before I had even learned the shooter's name, I had predicted he was a
Muslim, though I believed he was more likely to be a convert to Islam
- since previous attacks on U.S. army personnel have come from Muslim
converts.
My favorite detail is the fact that he was a psychiatrist, the same
person who would be psychoanalyzing soldiers to make sure they were
mentally hygienic enough to be trusted with deadly weapons. This
provides a nice little counterargument to gun control advocates who
argue that only the police and military should be allowed to possess
firearms, and who also advocate psychological testing as a condition
of receiving a gun license.
5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09
Prove it.
In the meantime, the press reports say he was born in Virginia.
Lib Loo
"kangarooistan" <kangaro...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:37dbd096-885c-406c...@g10g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> Muslims should rise up'
> Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who killed 11 people before being shot dead
Apparently he is still alive.
5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09
Where did you hear that, bubbles? Faux? Free Republic? News Max? Some
other trash right wing outfit?
Here's what the Guardian has to say about him:
Major Nidal Malik Hasan: Soldiers' psychiatrist who heard front line
stories
Violence in the US involving soldiers is commonplace, with a rise in
domestic abuse, murder and suicide since the wars began in Afghanistan
and Iraq. But there is nothing commonplace about Major Nidal Malik Hasan,
the soldier responsible for the biggest mass killing at a military base
in the US.
He was not a soldier returning from deployment in either Iraq or
Afghanistan, suffering from stress or combat fatigue. Hasan, although 39
years old, he had never served in a war zone. Instead, his horror of war
came second-hand. He was a psychiatrist who listened to the harrowing
stories of his comrades at the Walter Reed Hospital in Washington DC, and
latterly at Fort Hood, Texas.
Unusually for a soldier, Hasan appeared to have little taste for
violence, at least up until yesterday. His cousin, Nader Hasan, said: "He
was someone who did not enjoy going to the firing range." That may have
been a consequence of the stories he had heard in the hospital wards from
the returning soldiers.
Hasan was an unhappy soldier, according to his family and colleagues, not
at first, but as his career progressed. Nader Hasan said his cousin,
though born in America, had suffered harassment from fellow soldiers who
questioned his loyalty to the US and commented on his Middle East
ethnicity. As a Muslim, he was upset at the killing of Muslims in Iraq
and Afghanistan and Nader Hasan confirmed that he had been resisting
deployment in either war zone.
He had been scheduled for deployment to Iraq at the end of the year and
had told colleagues repeatedly he did not want to go. He felt trapped,
looking at ways to buy his way out, even going to the extent of hiring a
lawyer to seek if he could leave military service honourably.
After a killing on this scale, there will inevitably be questions about
whether the fact that Hasan was a Muslim was a factor, and whether the
incident will fuel tension between Muslims and non-Muslims in the US
military.
There was tension, but on a lesser scale, mainly because it was
overshadowed by the invasion of Iraq, when Sergeant Hasan Akbar in 2003
threw a grenade into a tent of his comrades in Kuwait. He was sentenced
two years later to death and the prosecution claimed he had been
motivated by Islamist extremism.
The case of Major Nidal Malik Hasan is much more complicated, the
motivation less clear. He was brought up at Roanoke, in rural Virginia,
and then went to Virginia Tech, where he joined the Officer Training
Corps. From there, he went into the military and trained as a
psychiatrist.
He served at Walter Reed, one of the main hospitals in the US for
soldiers recovering from physical and mental illness. He was promoted in
May and transferred from Walter Reed to Fort Hood. He was said to be
single, with no children.
His problem may have been one of alienation, as his family suggested
yesterday, a common complaint of recent or second-generation immigrants,
as was the case of the Virginia Tech shooter three years ago, whose
family was South Korean.
A retired colonel, Terry Lee, who worked beside Hasan in a ward, said he
had been unhappy about US foreign policy and had made several comments
that the US should not be in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Lee cited an incident earlier this year as having had a big influence on
Hasan – a fatal shooting at an army recruiting base in Little Rock,
Arkansas. The suspect, Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, faces trial for
murder.
One of the ironies of yesterday's killings was that while Hasan was on
the rampage at Fort Hood, military veterans were in Washington
campaigning for more help in dealing with mental health problems, mainly
for returning soldiers.
Paul Sullivan, executive director of Veterans for Common Sense, said that
he and others had warned that an incident such as the one which unfolded
yesterday had been on the cards for a long time. "We warned the military
about this. We warned the military about the need to increase the number
of mental health care providers," he said. "We warned the military about
lowering recruiting standards, about the medical exams for soldiers
coming back from the war and needing mental health care and brain injury
exams.
"We have been working tirelessly to try to prevent this from happening,"
he said. "This is so horrible. This is a tragedy."
The problem is that Hasan was not a damaged soldier, but one of the
mental health care providers that Sullivan was pressing the military to
recruit more of.
The US military is dealing with a rising number of stress-related
homicides and suicides among soldiers either serving in Iraq and
Afghanistan, or who have returned from duty in those conflicts. Many
troops are on their third or fourth tour of combat tour.
Some studies suggest that about 15% of soldiers returning from Iraq
suffer from emotional problems.
Last year there were 128 confirmed suicides by serving US army personnel,
and 41 by serving marines – the highest number since records began in
1980.
Another 15 army deaths were still under investigation when the figures
were released in February.
The confirmed rate of army suicides was 20.2 per 100,000 last year. In
2002, the army suicide rate was just 9.8 per 100,000. The last time it
exceeded the civilian rate was at the height of the Vietnam war.
Sullivan was trying to persuade Congress members to recruit more mental
health workers. That is the irony of his call. It was a psychiatrist that
was responsible for the multiple deaths yesterday.
Hasan did not fit the classic pattern of a stressed soldier. But someone
listening day after day to troops describing the tension and carnage in
Iraq and Afghanistan could end up as damaged as those facing combat at
first hand.
5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09
> Are you saying Strabo is wrong or just that you don't like him saying
> it?
I'm saying he's wrong.
knews4...@yahoo.com
Phlip
> Couple this with recent events in Afghanistan.
>
> Soldiers group with local recruits to train them. In the past two
> weeks one of these local trainees shot and killed his British Army
> trainers. Just a few days ago the same scenario played out against
> some Americans.
>
> The plan is obvious, keep the trainers afraid of the students to
> undermine the whole process. Now it looks like that same tactic is
> being exported to the states.
Yay! We invade their country, and they get even, and we accuse all
Muslims of plotting violence for no reason against us!
Too_Many_Tools
And the shooter was an American...and a soldier.
TMT
staten
wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:49:06 -0800, Travoltron wrote:
> > 5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>
> >> You are, bubbles. You've jumped to conclusions based on the name of
> >> one of the shooters.
>
> > He was disciplined for pushing Islam onto his patients. This has been
> > reported in the media. So you apologists will have to find a new angle.
>
> Where did you hear that, bubbles? Faux? Free Republic? News Max? Some
> other trash right wing outfit?
>
> Here's what the Guardian has to say about him:
What makes you think that commies from the Guardian are the only
paragon of truth?
Malik was quoted as saying "Muslims have the right to rise up
against the US military" "The Muslims have a right to stand up
against the aggressors" "maybe we should have more of these where
people strap bombs on themselves and go into Times Square" , according
to Col Terry Lee who worked with the Muslim murderer. It was jihad
plain and simple.
staten
Not just a soldier but a Muslim soldier what is equivalent to - enemy
Phlip
> And the shooter was an American...and a soldier.
That's what turns the racists on the most.
In the game D&D, a particularly loathsome monster, the Beholder, has
an arrogant attitude toward other Beholders. It can only love its own
reflection, and considers its own configuration to be the One True
Ideal for Beholderhood.
Fortunately for its prey species, Beholders come in a huge variety of
shapes, sizes, & patterns. Beholders will coldly & carefully plot war
against other groups who look very different, but they go into an
insane frenzy, and instantly fight recklessly, to the death, if they
meet a very similar Beholder with just one tiny difference, such as
one stripe too many...
elmer
>
> Another 15 army deaths were still under investigation when the figures
> were released in February.
>
> The confirmed rate of army suicides was 20.2 per 100,000 last year. In
> 2002, the army suicide rate was just 9.8 per 100,000. The last time it
> exceeded the civilian rate was at the height of the Vietnam war.
>
> Sullivan was trying to persuade Congress members to recruit more mental
> health workers. That is the irony of his call. It was a psychiatrist that
> was responsible for the multiple deaths yesterday.
>
> Hasan did not fit the classic pattern of a stressed soldier. But someone
> listening day after day to troops describing the tension and carnage in
> Iraq and Afghanistan could end up as damaged as those facing combat at
> first hand.
>
>
The Guardian is hardly a source.
He was a Muslim who proclaimed his anger over the false accusation that
we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. We are after the Taliban and other
Terrorist groups. We have claimed no territory or rule of either
Country. Indeed our efforts will benefit the Citizens of these Countries.
It was an act of Terrorism. His allegiance was not to our God and
Country. He served for his convenience not to defend and protect the
Republic. His allegiance is to Mohammed's murder cult. That's not
politically correct. It is error to embrace Fundamentalist Muslims while
they follow a teaching that commands our murder.
You want our acceptance only to make it convenient to cut our throat.
You don't like us saying like it is tough. I'll treat you just like
anyone else but I will be cautious of you.
Phlip
> > 1980.
>
> > Another 15 army deaths were still under investigation when the figures
> > were released in February.
>
> > The confirmed rate of army suicides was 20.2 per 100,000 last year. In
> > 2002, the army suicide rate was just 9.8 per 100,000. The last time it
> > exceeded the civilian rate was at the height of the Vietnam war.
>
> > Sullivan was trying to persuade Congress members to recruit more mental
> > health workers. That is the irony of his call. It was a psychiatrist that
> > was responsible for the multiple deaths yesterday.
>
> > Hasan did not fit the classic pattern of a stressed soldier. But someone
> > listening day after day to troops describing the tension and carnage in
> > Iraq and Afghanistan could end up as damaged as those facing combat at
> > first hand.
>
> It is not hate it is fear and prudence.
> The Guardian is hardly a source.
> He was a Muslim who proclaimed his anger over the false accusation that
> we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan.
We didn't invade Iraq & Afghanistan?
> We are after the Taliban and other
> Terrorist groups.
Which of the 9/11 terrorists were Talib?
> We have claimed no territory or rule of either
> Country.
Is that why Karzai's brother was on the CIA payroll until ...
recently?
> Indeed our efforts will benefit the Citizens of these Countries.
The ones who survive. Two wrongs don't make a right. That argument
didn't work in Vietnam, either.
> It was an act of Terrorism. His allegiance was not to our God and
> Country.
Our country has no official god. But that hasn't stopped Erik Prince,
the leader of Blackwater, from openly ranting that his company's goal
is the genocide of Muslims. Is Erik obeying the Christian God there?
And the "act" was the same as happens many times, in many communities,
when people with PTSD encounter stress, such as hearing they have to
go back into the meat grinder. You don't read about those events so
often (especially not on Fux News!), but the total deaths are nearing
a thousand, including suicides, fatalities while drunk or "self-
medicated", and domestic violence.
Further hate speech snipped.
5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09
On Nov 5, 10:12 pm, "5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:49:06 -0800, Travoltron wrote:
> > 5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>
> >> You are, bubbles. You've jumped to conclusions based on the name of
> >> one of the shooters.
>
> > He was disciplined for pushing Islam onto his patients. This has been
> > reported in the media. So you apologists will have to find a new
angle.
>
> Where did you hear that, bubbles? Faux? Free Republic? News Max? Some
> other trash right wing outfit?
>
> Here's what the Guardian has to say about him:
What makes you think that commies from the Guardian are the only
paragon of truth?
Malik was quoted as saying "Muslims have the right to rise up
against the US military" "The Muslims have a right to stand up
against the aggressors" "maybe we should have more of these where
people strap bombs on themselves and go into Times Square" , according
to Col Terry Lee who worked with the Muslim murderer. It was jihad
plain and simple.
I would say they're better than whatever trash outfit you're getting your
drivel from. Hell, you're embarrassed to even say who they are, aren't
you?
Travoltron
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:49:06 -0800, Travoltron wrote:
>
>> 5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>>
>>> You are, bubbles. You've jumped to conclusions based on the name of
>>> one of the shooters.
>> He was disciplined for pushing Islam onto his patients. This has been
>> reported in the media. So you apologists will have to find a new angle.
>
> Where did you hear that, bubbles? Faux? Free Republic? News Max? Some
> other trash right wing outfit?
Oh yeah, that right-wing bastion known as NPR.
Try another spin, apologist.
5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09
I wonder how many harmless, patriotic American Moslems are at risk
tonight because of hate-mongering, cowardly little assholes like you.
elmer
made permanent.
They aren't likely to act violently by taking a firearm and murdering
anyone.
Stop trying to defend a command of Islam and putting the blame on
Americans. It is highly offensive that you blame injured Military or ex
Military for Muslim Extremist attrocties.
Whatever the Blackwater Exec says it is no more than what someone else
says. I doubt he said such. If he did he meant Muslkim Extremists. I
don't know or care.
How is it different if he does feel that way since Muslim Terrorists are
about killing all of us.
That is politically correct run amok. you naturally prefere your victims
muzzled as you slit their throats.
Travoltron
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:49:06 -0800, Travoltron wrote:
>
>> 5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>>
>>> You are, bubbles. You've jumped to conclusions based on the name of
>>> one of the shooters.
>> He was disciplined for pushing Islam onto his patients. This has been
>> reported in the media. So you apologists will have to find a new angle.
>
> Where did you hear that, bubbles? Faux? Free Republic? News Max? Some
> other trash right wing outfit?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120138496&ft=1&f=1003
Hasan was put on probation early in his postgraduate work at the
Uniformed Service University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md. He
was disciplined for proselytizing about his Muslim faith with patients
and colleagues, according to the source, who worked with him at the time.
Travoltron
> On Nov 5, 8:07 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> And the shooter was an American...and a soldier.
>
> That's what turns the racists on the most.
>
> In the game D&D,
LOL. I had to stop reading right there. Kind of shows that you have no
sense of reality, like most Islamist apologists.
5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09
Z: And does this clown think that hundreds of millions of non-Moslems
were not ALSO angry over the invasions and occupations?
> We are after the Taliban and other
> Terrorist groups.
Which of the 9/11 terrorists were Talib?
Z: And given that any groups associated with 9/11 in Afghanistan are
long gone, why are we still there?
And what did IRAQ have to do with ANY terrorism?
> We have claimed no territory or rule of either
> Country.
Is that why Karzai's brother was on the CIA payroll until ...
recently?
Z: And he's trying to pretend the US isn't occupying both countries. If
the US isn't claiming rule or territory, what the fuck is it DOING there?
> Indeed our efforts will benefit the Citizens of these Countries.
The ones who survive. Two wrongs don't make a right. That argument
didn't work in Vietnam, either.
Yeah, the 1.3 million who got "shocked and awed" to death must be real
grateful.
> It was an act of Terrorism. His allegiance was not to our God and
> Country.
Our country has no official god. But that hasn't stopped Erik Prince,
the leader of Blackwater, from openly ranting that his company's goal
is the genocide of Muslims. Is Erik obeying the Christian God there?
Z: We don't know WHY he blew up and killed and injured all those people.
We don't know for sure that he was a practicing Moslem, and, being born
and raised in the US, it's pretty unlikely that he was a rabid
fundamentalist. Despite the squeaks from the forever-terrified American
right, most American Moslems just don't think that way.
And the "act" was the same as happens many times, in many communities,
when people with PTSD encounter stress, such as hearing they have to
go back into the meat grinder. You don't read about those events so
often (especially not on Fux News!), but the total deaths are nearing
a thousand, including suicides, fatalities while drunk or "self-
medicated", and domestic violence.
Further hate speech snipped.
Z: You know what I want to know? I want to know how an Army
psychiatrist, who probably never even took basic, let along any kind of
weapons training, was able to acquire three illegal weapons, get them
into Fort Hood, and, in the middle of tens of thousands of combat-trained
soldiers, shoot nearly 50 people and survive.
I have a lot of questions, but I'm sure not interested in listening to
scummy, cowardly little bigots shout, "Let's kill all the Moslems!"
because I know there won't be any answers there.
5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09
>> on Hasan â?? a fatal shooting at an army recruiting base in Little
>> personnel, and 41 by serving marines â?? the highest number since
The Guardian is a far better source than the Telegraph or Free Republic
are any of that trash.
We're occupying two countries, you dumb son of a bitch. Don't you real
newspapers? We've been in Afghanistan since 2002, and Iraq since 2003.
You don't know why the fuck he was in the army, or why he blew up. You
are just a frightened little bigot who can only respond with "Moslem!
Kill!"
Only of course, you'll never do any killing yourself, unless it's to blow
up a school bus full of Moslem kids or something equally courageous...
elmer
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:46:13 -0800 (PST),
>
>> As I predicted in another message just a few minutes ago, the suspects
>> in the shooting of 19+ people at Fort Hood in Texas were Muslims.
>>
>> Whether they were born Muslim or recently converted is still unknown,
>> but they were definitely izlamoids.
>>
>> Izlam is like a virus and should be treated as such. As we have seen,
>> the Cult transcends ethnicity, and even the most average middle-class
>> Americans can be brainwashed and turned into jihad zombies.
>>
>>
Those evil Christians that go around to nursing homes etc and give a
little lite and friendship to people with no family etc.
those Christians that bend over bacwards to let you walk all over them
and America and forgive you.
The next time you feel put on by Christians let us know. That may chane
or is changin as everyone begins, finally, to recognize the scope of
threat Islam presents whether American of British or Taliban.
Dänk 1010011010
> > We are after the Taliban and other
> > Terrorist groups.
>
> Which of the 9/11 terrorists were Talib?
While it is true that none of the 9/11 hijackers were members of the
Taliban, the Taliban was in alliance with al-Qaeda, and provided them
with aid and shelter and eventually took up arms in their defense
after refusing to hand them over to USA.
elmer
Muslims use them as shields or put their hides in the middle of the
innocents. Muslim sre responsible for 100% of Civilian deaths. Our ethic
and command is to not tarket Innocents. The Muslims use that knowledge
against us. Muslims have no such compunction they like Mao and Stalin
and others will kill anone including their neighbors if if furthers
their cause.
5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09
Let's put the first few words of that paragraph that you trimmed out back
in: "A source tells NPR's Joseph Shapiro that Hasan was put on
probation..."
Puts it in a different light, doesn't it?
5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09
Yup. When I caught you doctoring that NPR story, I wondered if you were
just another mindless bigot. Now I know...
Too_Many_Tools
> As I predicted in another message just a few minutes ago, the suspects
> in the shooting of 19+ people at Fort Hood in Texas were Muslims.
>
> Whether they were born Muslim or recently converted is still unknown,
> but they were definitely izlamoids.
>
> Izlam is like a virus and should be treated as such. As we have seen,
> the Cult transcends ethnicity, and even the most average middle-class
> Americans can be brainwashed and turned into jihad zombies.
And as stated everywhere the shooters were American soldiers.
Why do you not state the obvious?
TMT
Phlip
wrote:
> Z: You know what I want to know? I want to know how an Army
> psychiatrist, who probably never even took basic, let along any kind of
> weapons training, was able to acquire three illegal weapons, get them
> into Fort Hood, and, in the middle of tens of thousands of combat-trained
> soldiers, shoot nearly 50 people and survive.
(Besides most soldiers keep their guns locked up for just this
reason?)
You mean if someone shows signs of being a made-to-order patsy, such
as Oswald, Sirhan, or van der Lubbe, they might be MANIPULATED??
Looks like Obama just got the "testing" Biden accidentally warned was
obviously coming...
Phlip
> Whatever the Blackwater Exec says it is no more than what someone else
> says. I doubt he said such. If he did he meant Muslkim Extremists.
No, he wants to cleanse the Earth of all Muslims, to make way for the
return of Jesus. It's in his resume...
5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09
>>>> on Hasan â?? a fatal shooting at an army recruiting base in Little
>>>> personnel, and 41 by serving marines â?? the highest number since
And your only response is some fairly incoherent squeaks about what a
great evil Moslems are. "responsible for 100% of civilian deaths"? What
utter, cowardly crap!
5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09
I think the Taliban took up arms against a foreign invader, you dumb
jackass!
And we know that al-Qaida is long gone from Afghanistan. Why are we
still there?
5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09
> hal wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:46:13 -0800 (PST),
>> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E4nk_1010011010?= <dan...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> As I predicted in another message just a few minutes ago, the suspects
>>> in the shooting of 19+ people at Fort Hood in Texas were Muslims.
>>>
>>> Whether they were born Muslim or recently converted is still unknown,
>>> but they were definitely izlamoids.
>>>
>>> Izlam is like a virus and should be treated as such. As we have seen,
>>> the Cult transcends ethnicity, and even the most average middle-class
>>> Americans can be brainwashed and turned into jihad zombies.
>>>
>>>
>> yea, Christianity too.
> Those evil Christians that go around to nursing homes etc and give a
> little lite and friendship to people with no family etc.
Do you know that Islam actually REQUIRES charity? Most variations on
Xianty only recommend it.
those
> Christians that bend over bacwards to let you walk all over them and
> America and forgive you.
Does this mean you're forgiving the shooter?
> The next time you feel put on by Christians let us know. That may chane
> or is changin as everyone begins, finally, to recognize the scope of
> threat Islam presents whether American of British or Taliban.
Wait a minute. Stop the presses. Islam is a threat to the Taliban?
Wow. I would never have guessed that in a million years!
5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09
> 5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:49:06 -0800, Travoltron wrote:
>>
>>> 5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>>>
>>>> You are, bubbles. You've jumped to conclusions based on the name of
>>>> one of the shooters.
>>> He was disciplined for pushing Islam onto his patients. This has been
>>> reported in the media. So you apologists will have to find a new
>>> angle.
>>
>> Where did you hear that, bubbles? Faux? Free Republic? News Max?
>> Some other trash right wing outfit?
>
> Oh yeah, that right-wing bastion known as NPR. Try another spin,
> apologist.
Already caught you doctoring the paragraph in question.
Next.
Dänk 1010011010
> You think I or anyone swallow your garbage.Civilians get killed when
> Muslims use them as shields or put their hides in the middle of the
> innocents. Muslim sre responsible for 100% of Civilian deaths. Our ethic
> and command is to not tarket Innocents. The Muslims use that knowledge
> against us. Muslims have no such compunction they like Mao and Stalin
> and others will kill anone including their neighbors if if furthers
> their cause.
Muslims go way beyond Communists when it comes to brainwashing. Even
the rampaging mobs of Maoists during the Cultural Revolution did not
go around blowing up buses and airplanes, and certainly not
themselves.
Islam is similar to Communism in that both are thought viruses, also
known as 'mnemes.' Mnemes infect minds in the same way biological
viruses infect cells, replicating and brainwashing the host organism,
using the infected host to transmit the mneme to others. This is how
cults originate, and Islam is a perfect example of how mnemes work.
Mneme-infected John Walker Lindh:
http://www.nyu.edu/classes/keefer/joe/walker2.jpg
elmer
I'd reup to get the ledgering of hanging a ham around his neck before
the noose.
In re Muslim terrorist way, first I would smear him with pig lard, make
hie eat pig entrails, cut of his manhood and feed it to him and then
hang him.
Bury him a pit where they throw away pig innards and excrement's
Then I would put a thick layer of salt over it and then aslab of
concrete, so his evil sould will never see 7 virgins.
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> Dänk 1010011010 <dan...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Izlam is like a virus and should be treated as such. As we have seen,
>>the Cult transcends ethnicity, and even the most average middle-class
>>Americans can be brainwashed and turned into jihad zombies.
>
> The newest religion has always appealed to the poor and outcast. The
> establishment won't take it seriously but the poor grasp for the only
> hope they are offered. They can't bring rich offerings but they can
> bring fervent belief and there are so damn many poor to swell the ranks.
>
> Every major religion has gone through a similar state in it's history.
> Islam is where Christianity was 1,000 years ago and it was a pretty ugly
> religion then.
"Then"? Don't you consider a cult which gives their children to men in
dresses to butt-fuck ugly? Or a cult which "marries" 11-year old girls?
Or a cult that parties and drinks wine while a paid thugh hacks off the
end of their male-child's penis and gives it it's first blowjob?
Age doesn't make a religion pretty. Time just lets the cult dig it's
fangs deeper making the insanity appear normal.
> Islam is the stage where they are still the new kids on the block with
> fairly recent memories of being an oppressed and exploited minority, but
> they are big enough to be effective.
For the moment Islam is the crazy cousin amongst a family of
crazymotherfuckers.
> The only difference is that distance and hardships of travel mostly kept
> the factions apart back then and their weapons were a hell of a lot less
> effective when they did meet.
The only difference is a matter of degree. They're all
crazymotherfuckers.
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Lib Loo <heez...@crazymother.kom> wrote:
>
>"kangarooistan" <kangaro...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:37dbd096-885c-406c...@g10g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>> Muslims should rise up'
>> Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who killed 11 people before being shot dead
>
>Apparently he is still alive.
>
As they say, the rumor of his demise has been greatly exaggerated:)
But it's actually a better outcome than to have the guy killed and for
us know not the reason for his killing or whether he was acting out on
his impending deployment to Iraq which he has apparently resisted with
great efforts or as a part of a terrorist group.
Just a day agp, five UK soldiers in an Afghan military base was killed
in cold blood by an Afghan policeman they were training/mentoring.
It's just too much violence today. And America has a responsibility
to stop the endless bloodshed.
The killer with the UK situation is dead and the most plausible
explanation is the US occupation of Afghanistan with NATO countries
sacrificing their young men to help secure by force. Nobody should
think the people of the country we occupy by force at the cost of many
civilians killed are not grieved by our barbarous act. What happened
to the UK soldiers are tremendous losses to their loved ones back home
in England; but think at the same time how many Afghanis NATO planes
have bombed into smithereens and how chaotic the country has become.
In the Texas Fort Hood case, the following BBC report is telling us
something too - also entirely related to our foreign war enterprise:
Apparently, the guy has been working as a military psychiatrist at
Walter Reeds. And lately he's due to be sent to Iraq. He resents
his impending deployment so much that he's hired a military lawyer to
help him get out of his contract with the military. He even proposes
to pay the government back what it has paid him.
I can imagine that having seen all those who have been crippled by
their services in Iraq and Afghanistan has had a profound effect on
his pysche about going to Iraq, a country torn apart and devastated by
our bombs and missiles wrapped in big government lies.
I remember Columbine which took place near the end of Bill Clinton's
savage bombing of Yugoslavia to break it up. And I thought to myself
Uncle Sam is setting up a very bad cycle of karma/example for everyone
including kids. Things of this nature simply gotten worse.
In the case of the UK soldiers murdered by the Afghan whom they
mentored/trained to become a tough policeman on his own countrymen
wouldn't have to die if the UK hadn't committed them to their task.
In the case of the Fort Hood murder by a soldier of our own who is
fighting his Iraq deployment could have been avoided had he not be
forced to serve.
And the Columbine school massacre could likely have been avoided, had
children been shown the example of peace instead of war.
In all cases, the bloodshed, the tragedy could have been avoided.
And the government has a duty to pursue peace and avoid forcing its
will down people's throats.
But instead, it continues to use lie to sustain its hegemonic endeavor
to dominate the world and call it self-defense. Even as the majority
of the people in the US and that in the UK are opposed to these wars.
People were so tired of these wars and their rulers got so unpopular
that new rulers come in promising change. Like Obama, he was elected
largely because he was running on the credential that he had been
consistently opposed to the Iraq war.
But once he went to the White House. He kept the same "Defense"
secretary who had been presiding over the two wars and continued to
pursue the policy of militarily occupying both Afghanistan and Iraq,
even at the cost of an expanded military involvement and even as he
was borrowing over a trillion from the future and took the blame of
being a big spender. But the biggest expenditure goes to financing
the Iraqi and Afghan occupations.
Yet people continue to be tired of these wars. But Obama and Gordon
Brown in the UK have both been compromised by their job description,
head of a government which is committed to preserve continuity of its
policy, irrespective of the people who administer it.
Continuity of the government and continuity of its policies. It's a
fundamental dogma for all politicians who want to remain within the
establishment strucutre, in D.C. and in London, respectively.
Too bad for democracy. It doesn't matter what the voters have to say
at the polls. Government policy shall continue.
So the governments continue to say that if we don't keep fighting to
keep Iraq and Afghanistan occpuied, we'd have another 9/11. And this
is so even if 9/11 was an immoral act allowed to happen by hawks in
D.C. who wanted to rile up the American people to support a series of
wars planned by the PNAC authors/proponents/supporters.
So, Obama by becoming President of the US accepts the government dogma
and is duty-bound to uphold the war banners in Iraq and Afghanistan,
and even Pakistan and Iran to make sure that we may be bankrupting
ourselves, but we have to keep fighting and killing people and have
our soldiers killed. And they have to go even if they don't want to
go, despite the facade that we have a voluntary army.
This is how sad America has become. We're obliged to ride the beast
the warriors inside our government have created and to keep riding it
and can't get off. Causality or karma, anyway you want to call it,
the blood we've spilled in Iraq and Afghanistan continues to haunt us.
They say: "Oh, very tragic of course, but for any number of reasons,
we have to keep occupying those countries . . . and intimidate you
with personal attacks like "Why . . . are you ignorant, a coward, a
Taliban supporter, or a traitor?" if you try to point the causality.
So, we say we have democracy in the US and the UK. Yet, our elections
mean nothing. And voters' desires are consistently ignored. And they
even go so far as to stifle free speech by calling you a traitor when
you are saying that the wars are hurting not only others but us alos.
Such is the "democracy" we have today, no doubt a far cry from what
Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and others envisioned a couople
of hundred years ago.
And as for the line that these wars are needed for domestic security,
Colonel Matthew Hoh has spoken eloquently that it is a big lie.
"I fail to see the value or worth in continued US casualties... in
support of the Afghan government in what is, truly, a 35-year-old
civil war
"Like the Soviets we continue to bolster a failing state, while
encouraging an ideology and system of government unknown and unwanted
by its people
"If the history of Afghanistan is one great stage play, the United
States is no more than a supporting actor, among several previously,
in a tragedy that... has violently and savagely pitted the urban,
secular, educated and modern of Afghanistan against the rural,
religious, illiterate and traditional.
lo yeeOn
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8345713.stm
BBC report: Page last updated at 03:59 GMT, Friday, 6 November 2009
A US army major has opened fire on fellow soldiers at the Fort Hood
military base in Texas, killing 12 people and injuring 31, officials
say.
Base commander Lt Gen Bob Cone said that the gunman had not been
killed, as earlier stated, but was in custody.
Two other suspects were questioned, but the army now says only one
gunman was involved in the incident.
Lt Gen Cone said the motive for the shooting was not known. One of the
dead was a policeman, others were soldiers.
President Barack Obama described it as "a horrific outburst of
violence".
Speaking at a press conference in Washington, he said: "It is
difficult enough when we lose these brave men and women abroad, but it
is horrifying that they should come under fire at an army base on US
soil."
He extended his condolences to the families of the victims, adding:
"We will make sure that we get answers to every single question about
this horrible incident."
'Racial harassment'
Eleven victims were initially reported dead, but one of the injured
died, bringing the death toll to 12.
Barack Obama: 'A horrific outburst of violence'
The gunman has been named as Major Nidal Malik Hasan. He is now said
to be wounded after being shot a number of times, but in a stable
condition in custody.
"His death is not imminent," said Lt Gen Cone.
Maj Hasan, aged 39, was a military psychiatrist and was reportedly due
to be sent on a mission to Iraq.
His cousin said Maj Hasan - a US-born Muslim - had been resisting such
a deployment.
"He hired a military attorney to try to have the issue resolved, pay
back the government, to get out of the military. He was at the end of
trying everything," Nader Hasan told Fox News.
He also said that Nidal Malik Hasan had been battling racial
harassment because of his "Middle Eastern ethnicity".
Prior to Fort Hood, Maj Hasan served as a psychiatrist at the Walter
Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, which treats wounded troops
from combat zones.
Witness' account
The shooting had begun at about 1330 (1930 GMT) on Thursday at a
personnel and medical centre at Fort Hood, where soldiers who are
preparing to deploy go for last-minute medical check-ups, Lt Gen Cone
said.
He said the gunman had two weapons, one semi-automatic, which "might
explain the rate of fire".
Asked whether the shootings were a terrorist act, Lt Gen Cone said: "I
couldn't rule that out but I'm telling you that right now, the
evidence does not suggest that."
Two more suspects were apprehended in an adjacent facility, he said,
but eyewitness accounts suggesting there might have been more than one
gunman were later discounted.
A serviceman stationed at Fort Hood who asked to remain anonymous told
the BBC: "I heard the emergency announcement over the speakers outside
and saw people rushing to get indoors."
Local congressman John Carter, speaking to NBC News, said gunfire had
erupted half an hour before a graduation ceremony was due to begin.
'Like a city'
Fort Hood, near the town of Killeen, is the largest US base in the
world.
Home to about 40,000 US troops, the base lies between Austin and Waco,
about 60 miles (100 km) from each city.
The BBC's Adam Brookes in Washington says units at Fort Hood are among
those deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and some will have returned
from there.
The base has a centre that deals with combat stress, our correspondent
adds.
Hilary Shine, of the Killeen Fire Department told the BBC's News
Channel Fort Hood was like a small city.
"It has schools, a hospital, a convenience store even. And it has a
large daytime population - including civilians working on the base -
with as many as 80,000 in this area during the daytime."
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About the futility of the Afghan war (from a high-level State
Department appointee in the occupation of Afghanistan):
>That is nothing but Marxist rhetoric and nonsense.
If so, I wonder how you would characterize Matthew Hoh's high-profile
protest resignation from his Afghan assignment. The truth is that
both Hoh and I share much of our assessment about the deceit behind
our military occupation and fighting in Afghanistan. But that truth
is apparently too hard for you to take and so you label it Marxist
without citing evidence, as if the smearing would change the truth.
>The truth is simple. As you sow so shall you reap.
Ah yes, are you talking about our bleeding in Afghanistan and Iraq as
a consequence of the violence and destruction we've committed there
against their peoples?
>Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be
>maintained by violence. Any man who has once proclaimed violence as
>his method is inevitably forced to take the lie as his principle. -
>Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
This sounds like George W Bush's wars on terror in Afghanistan and
Iraq, doesn't it?
Yesterday, within 12 hours of my writing the follow-up to this
article, it was all over the news that a high level diplomat in
Afghanistan, Matthew Hoh, had resigned from his job in protestation
against the war in Afghanistan.
His carefully drafted letter of resignation was said to have sent
shock waves around the world, particularly in political circles here
in the US and in Europe where the war hawks have been busy selling the
idea of substantially boosting NATO troop level in Afghanistan.
All the politicians in Western Europe have been saying how important
it is to sacrifice more young men for the security of the member
nations of NATO. Mr. Hoh begged to differ. In other words, the
politicians who have been selling the war have been lying.
According to the UK Independent:
Mr Hoh wrote,
The US involvement was simply fuelling the insurgency, and was
causing American servicemen to die "in what is essentially a
far-off civil war", or more accurately a number of small local
wars in which the sides are united only in their resentment of a
foreign intruder.
[Hoh's] problem was not _how_ Washington was pursuing the war - the
issue Mr Obama is grappling with in round after round of
consultations with his top national security and military advisers -
"but _why_ and _to what end_" his country was fighting it in the
first place.
(The emphases on "how", "why", and "to what end" are mine.)
So, it is clear to me that Hoh was letting the air out of the balloon,
so to speak, about the Bush-Cheney war in Afghanistan as a war to
fight terrorism or to protect the domestic security of the U.S.
This revelation simply reinforces the suspicion of many that the war
on terror is not what our rulers have been telling us to be. They are
fighting the Taliban just so as to keep Afghanistan under our control,
but for what at this huge cost? Since every time Dick Cheney or some
important US senators visited Afghanistan in the past 8 years, they
went to Bagram more than they cared to visit Kabul.
And since Bagram has been idle in the fighting of the Taliban, leaving
the US and other NATO member nations to send foot soldiers to defend
the supply routes into Afghanistan, at the cost of many fatalities and
failure of delivery of supplies, one cannot but suspect that Bagram is
really the thing US and NATO soldiers are dying for.
For Obama to adopt George Bush's and Dick Cheney's orphan and be seen
as his own baby is foolhardy because as Hoh pointed out, the Afghans
have been fighting a civil war with all kinds of foreigners for some
35 years now.
"I fail to see the value or worth in continued US casualties... in
support of the Afghan government in what is, truly, a 35-year-old
civil war
"Like the Soviets we continue to bolster a failing state, while
encouraging an ideology and system of government unknown and unwanted
by its people
"If the history of Afghanistan is one great stage play, the United
States is no more than a supporting actor, among several previously,
in a tragedy that... has violently and savagely pitted the urban,
secular, educated and modern of Afghanistan against the rural,
religious, illiterate and traditional.
So, it is our government and its allies which have been telling a
massive lie about why we're fighting these open-ended wars in Iraq and
Afghanistan. (The world already knew George Bush's public reason for
going to war against Iraq was a massive lie. And now it emerges also
that the war in Afghanistan is equally a lie.)
The USSR's 10 years of military involvment in Afghanistan failed. And
then Bush and Cheney spent nearly their two full terms doing the same
and failed. Why should Mr. Obama think that he could do better,
particularly when Bagram is not even doing the fighting? Why does
Mr. Obama want to adopt the Bush-Cheney orphan and be seen as his own
failure, his own albatross, when he could help America solve its more
urgent domestic problems and the global problem of climate change, by
first breaking clean from our wayward past and bringing America home?
lo yeeOn
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Subject: 5 UK soldiers shot dead by a "rogue" Afghan policeman
BBC report (excerpt)
last updated at 08:43 GMT, Wednesday, 4 November 2009:
Five British soldiers have been shot dead in Helmand Province, in an
attack the UK military says was carried out by a "rogue" Afghan
policeman.
It is the highest number of UK soldiers killed in a single incident of
"combat" since the US-led invasion of 2001.
An investigation into the attack is under way. The soldiers' next of
kin have been informed of the deaths.
BBC Kabul correspondent Ian Pannell said sources indicated the
attacker was a police officer called Gulbuddin who had fled the scene
after the shooting. It appears he could have been involved in a
dispute with his commander, but tribal sources have pointed to a link
with the Taliban.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown said the latest deaths were a "terrible
loss".
"They fought to make Afghanistan more secure, but above all to make
Britain safer from the terrorism and extremism which continues to
threaten us from the border areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
My online Oxford says: Rogue: a dishonest or unprincipled man
I wonder whether Gordon Brown or the Afghan policemen who killed the
UK soldiers whom Gordon Brown sent there to die, in the name of making
England safe, is more a rogue person.
There is absolutely no justification for the US or UK or any other
country to have troops in Afghanistan except Afghanistan itself.
lo yeeOn
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Steve
<de...@dead.com> wrote:
"We?" You're not there, Fatty..
--
Contrary to what liberals are whining, nobody
owes you anything.
orion314
> As I predicted in another message just a few minutes ago, the suspects
> in the shooting of 19+ people at Fort Hood in Texas were Muslims.
>
> Whether they were born Muslim or recently converted is still unknown,
> but they were definitely izlamoids.
>
> the Cult transcends ethnicity, and even the most average middle-class
> Americans
Yet another fine example of "Islam is a peaceful religion" It is time
for people
to grow up and stop believing in fairy tales. RELIGION IS NOTHING BUT
A MENTAL DISORDER. When there are about 3 muslim believers left in
the world, then, maybe, they will truly become peaceful. Until then,
its just an excuse to practice hate.
This diaperhead shooter sounds like a MK-ULTRA test gone bad. Notice
how the base General deflected the idea of it being a cell operation,
the armys worst nightmare....
orion
.
Phlip
wrote:
> I think the Taliban took up arms against a foreign invader, you dumb
> jackass!
The awesome thing about Afghan society is, given their position
astride a huge pass between Asia and Europe, whenever either side has
a population explosion, they get invaded.
To put out the welcome mat, their entire society and all its customs
have evolved for millennia to operate as clandestine resistance cells.
Other cultures must learn anew how to hide people & guns efficiently,
how to transmit secrets, live off the land, and operate at night.
Afghans keep in practice even during their scarce peacetime.
> And we know that al-Qaida is long gone from Afghanistan. Why are we
> still there?
To support democracy, duh!
Phlip
> You think I or anyone swallow your garbage.Civilians get killed when
> Muslims use them as shields or put their hides in the middle of the
> innocents. Muslim sre responsible for 100% of Civilian deaths. Our ethic
> and command is to not tarket Innocents. The Muslims use that knowledge
> against us. Muslims have no such compunction they like Mao and Stalin
> and others will kill anone including their neighbors if if furthers
> their cause.
Q. When were bombs dropped for the first time in warfare?
A. 1930s Nicaragua. The US was bombing entire villages trying to hit
Sandino,
defending our puppet government.
You didn't know that, did you?
HH&C
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:26:31 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Dänk 1010011010 <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>Izlam is like a virus and should be treated as such. As we have seen,
> >>the Cult transcends ethnicity, and even the most average middle-class
> >>Americans can be brainwashed and turned into jihad zombies.
>
> > The newest religion has always appealed to the poor and outcast. The
> > establishment won't take it seriously but the poor grasp for the only
> > hope they are offered. They can't bring rich offerings but they can
> > bring fervent belief and there are so damn many poor to swell the ranks.
>
> > Every major religion has gone through a similar state in it's history.
> > Islam is where Christianity was 1,000 years ago and it was a pretty ugly
> > religion then.
>
> "Then"? Don't you consider a cult which gives their children to men in
> dresses to butt-fuck ugly? Or a cult which "marries" 11-year old girls?
Is that why you're gay? You were raped as a child?
> Or a cult that parties and drinks wine while a paid thugh hacks off the
> end of their male-child's penis and gives it it's first blowjob?
Is taht why you are gay? You were ritually scarred as and infant and
molested?
> Age doesn't make a religion pretty. Time just lets the cult dig it's
> fangs deeper making the insanity appear normal.
Are you a priest? Why did you move to a country that is 99.9% Roman
Catholic?
> > Islam is the stage where they are still the new kids on the block with
> > fairly recent memories of being an oppressed and exploited minority, but
> > they are big enough to be effective.
>
> For the moment Islam is the crazy cousin amongst a family of
> crazymotherfuckers.
Is this a cry for help? What crimes have you committed?
> > The only difference is that distance and hardships of travel mostly kept
> > the factions apart back then and their weapons were a hell of a lot less
> > effective when they did meet.
>
> The only difference is a matter of degree. They're all
> crazymotherfuckers.
>
> --
> Regards, Curly
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> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
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Curly Surmudgeon
> It is time for people to grow up and stop believing in fairy tales.
> RELIGION IS NOTHING BUT A MENTAL DISORDER.
True but more of a meme or self-delusion than a clinical condition. It
is entirely voluntary, addictive, suppresses higher thought, logic,
rationality, exclusive, divisive and invariably cruel.
The problem arises in a free society, people have an inalienable right to
be crazymotherfuckers. There is no way to legislate or mandate thought
in a free society and have but two choices, lose our liberty or put up
with crazymotherfuckers.
We can, as a nation, combat the meme of crazymotherfuckers but it will be
a hard slog. America is still full of neo-Puritans wishing to enslave us
to their superstition. From pastors, rabbi's, ministers, fathers, imans
in the military to an un-Constitutional tax exemption for church property
to the current health bill which now includes "spiritual counseling"
these crazymotherfuckers attempt to shove their insanity down our
collective throats. Just say "NO"!
Instead of reacting when one of their wackos goes postal recognize that
religion is a constant threat to liberty, freedom and peace. Do not
relent in the battle against their superstition and encroachment of our
liberties for the crazymotherfuckers work at enslaving us at all times.
Speak out forcefully when the insane pretend to speak for some god or
other. Put them back in their respective boxes, protest their abuse of
the public common and good, halt the use of tax money to subsidize any
brand of insanity.
But do not attempt to revoke their rights for that inevitably boomerangs
with the same tools being used against everyone. Religion is, as you a
mental disorder, and the infected must be treated as such. Not treated
as though they are sane or rational.
Yes, Moslems are crazymotherfuckers. So are Christians, Jews,
Zoroastrians, believers in Zeus, Thor, Shinto. Remain alert and active
when the fundamentalists bang on your door Saturday morning. Tell them
unequivocably that they are crazymotherfuckers. Shame them, ridicule
them for what they are but do not abridge their Constitutional rights.
Do not get bogged down in the mud with pigs, take the high road. This
event was not one single Moslem but a typical representative of the
larger class of crazymotherfuckers who flipped. Religionists snap often
snap from the constant denial they've created in their reality bubble.
Religionists are not sane, do not expect rational behavior. Be aware
that they do weird shit at inopportune times. It should be no surprise
when the pressure of war causes many to go psycho. That is predictable,
which crazymotherfucker flips and when is impossible to predict.
Rail against the greater problem. That is insanity portrayed as sane.
Religionists are not sane, they're crazymotherfuckers.
Phlip
> Haters? 11 people are dead murdered execution style, close range by a
> Muslim. Who are haters here?
Whenever a Christian does it, y'all blame anything except his
religion...
hal
Just look what George Bush did to Iraq, and he considers himself a
good Christian.
hal
<de...@dead.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:48:01 -0500, elmer wrote:
>
>> hal wrote:
>>> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:46:13 -0800 (PST),
>>> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E4nk_1010011010?= <dan...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As I predicted in another message just a few minutes ago, the suspects
>>>> in the shooting of 19+ people at Fort Hood in Texas were Muslims.
>>>>
>>>> Whether they were born Muslim or recently converted is still unknown,
>>>> but they were definitely izlamoids.
>>>>
>>>> Izlam is like a virus and should be treated as such. As we have seen,
>>>> the Cult transcends ethnicity, and even the most average middle-class
>>>> Americans can be brainwashed and turned into jihad zombies.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> yea, Christianity too.
>> Those evil Christians that go around to nursing homes etc and give a
>> little lite and friendship to people with no family etc.
>
>Do you know that Islam actually REQUIRES charity? Most variations on
>Xianty only recommend it.
charity in Christianity is totally self serving. It is used for
evangelizing. It is an excuse to try to convert people.
Phlip
> Phlip wrote:
> > On Nov 5, 8:07 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> And the shooter was an American...and a soldier.
>
> > That's what turns the racists on the most.
>
> > In the game D&D,
>
> LOL. I had to stop reading right there. Kind of shows that you have no
> sense of reality, like most Islamist apologists.
aand you just performed the exact behavior I described.
5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09
Oh, right. Karzai. The very epitome of democracy in action.
staten
wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:25:24 -0800, staten wrote:
>
> On Nov 5, 10:12 pm, "5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:49:06 -0800, Travoltron wrote:
> > > 5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>
> > >> You are, bubbles. You've jumped to conclusions based on the name of
> > >> one of the shooters.
>
> > > He was disciplined for pushing Islam onto his patients. This has been
> > > reported in the media. So you apologists will have to find a new
> angle.
>
> > Where did you hear that, bubbles? Faux? Free Republic? News Max? Some
> > other trash right wing outfit?
>
>
> paragon of truth?
> Malik was quoted as saying "Muslims have the right to rise up
> against the US military" "The Muslims have a right to stand up
> against the aggressors" "maybe we should have more of these where
> people strap bombs on themselves and go into Times Square" , according
> to Col Terry Lee who worked with the Muslim murderer. It was jihad
> plain and simple.
>
>I would say they're better than whatever trash outfit you're getting your
>drivel from.
It's all over the other news outlets, idiot. Keep feeding your brains
wuth that leninist shit from the Guardian.
> Hell, you're embarrassed to even say who they are, aren't
>you?
Who the fuck cares? Commies and Muslims are in bed together.
staten
wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:33:01 -0800, staten wrote:
> > On Nov 5, 11:07 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 5, 4:46 pm, Dänk 1010011010 <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > As I predicted in another message just a few minutes ago, the
> >> > suspects in the shooting of 19+ people at Fort Hood in Texas were
> >> > Muslims.
>
> >> > Whether they were born Muslim or recently converted is still unknown,
> >> > but they were definitely izlamoids.
>
> >> > Izlam is like a virus and should be treated as such. As we have
> >> > seen, the Cult transcends ethnicity, and even the most average
> >> > middle-class Americans can be brainwashed and turned into jihad
> >> > zombies.
>
>
>
> > Not just a soldier but a Muslim soldier what is equivalent to - enemy
>
> I wonder how many harmless, patriotic American Moslems are at risk
> tonight because of hate-mongering, cowardly little assholes like you.-
Harmless"? "Patriotic"? Where are they? Why are they hiding like
cockroaches from light? Name at least one who would step forward and
condemn Islam that inspires to commit these heinous crimes against
infidels.
Phlip
> ...Commies and Muslims are in bed together.
oh cod, imaginations are running riot today...
staten
wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:33:14 -0800, Travoltron wrote:
> > 5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09 wrote:
> >> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:49:06 -0800, Travoltron wrote:
>
> >>> 5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>
> >>>> You are, bubbles. You've jumped to conclusions based on the name of
> >>>> one of the shooters.
> >>> He was disciplined for pushing Islam onto his patients. This has been
> >>> reported in the media. So you apologists will have to find a new
> >>> angle.
>
> >> Where did you hear that, bubbles? Faux? Free Republic? News Max?
> >> Some other trash right wing outfit?
>
>
> storyId=120138496&ft=1&f=1003
>
>
>
> > Hasan was put on probation early in his postgraduate work at the
> > Uniformed Service University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md. He
> > was disciplined for proselytizing about his Muslim faith with patients
> > and colleagues, according to the source, who worked with him at the
> > time.
>
> Let's put the first few words of that paragraph that you trimmed out back
> in: "A source tells NPR's Joseph Shapiro that Hasan was put on
> probation..."
>
> Puts it in a different light, doesn't it?
Read the rest , clown - "He was disciplined for proselytizing about
his Muslim faith with patients ". It puts directly in a light that he
was a jihadi in disguise all these years while serving in military.
All observing Muslims got to be kicked out of the military. They all
are friends of jihadis and enemies of America.
Phlip
> On Nov 6, 12:28 am, "5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
>> I wonder how many harmless, patriotic American Moslems are at risk
>> tonight because of hate-mongering, cowardly little assholes like you.-
>
> Harmless"? "Patriotic"? Where are they? Why are they hiding like
> cockroaches from light? Name at least one who would step forward and
> condemn Islam that inspires to commit these heinous crimes against
> infidels.
Here's one - hiding like a coward in a box underground:
staten
wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:51:13 -0800, Dänk 1010011010 wrote:
> > On Nov 5, 9:46 pm, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > We are after the Taliban and other
> >> > Terrorist groups.
>
> >> Which of the 9/11 terrorists were Talib?
>
> > While it is true that none of the 9/11 hijackers were members of the
> > Taliban, the Taliban was in alliance with al-Qaeda, and provided them
> > with aid and shelter and eventually took up arms in their defense after
> > refusing to hand them over to USA.
>
> I think the Taliban took up arms against a foreign invader, you dumb
> jackass!
What “foreign invader” has in common with murdering innocent people
from Africa to the Mud- East? From the Mid East to Europe to Russia.
From Russia to India to Philippines? From Philippines to Mexico to
the US? It's still one murderous team driven by the same hateful cult
-Islam. We are at the right place, dumbfuck jihadi. Islam is evil and
got to be defeated and outlawed!
> And we know that al-Qaida is long gone from Afghanistan. Why are we
> still there?
What is the difference between Taliban and Al-Qaeda , idiot?
And forget "we". It doesn't apply to you. WE fighting jihad. You
servilely serve it.
staten
wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:48:01 -0500, elmer wrote:
> > hal wrote:
> >> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:46:13 -0800 (PST),
> >> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E4nk_1010011010?= <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> As I predicted in another message just a few minutes ago, the suspects
> >>> in the shooting of 19+ people at Fort Hood in Texas were Muslims.
>
> >>> Whether they were born Muslim or recently converted is still unknown,
> >>> but they were definitely izlamoids.
>
> >>> Izlam is like a virus and should be treated as such. As we have seen,
> >>> the Cult transcends ethnicity, and even the most average middle-class
> >>> Americans can be brainwashed and turned into jihad zombies.
>
> >> yea, Christianity too.
> > Those evil Christians that go around to nursing homes etc and give a
> > little lite and friendship to people with no family etc.
>Do you know that Islam actually REQUIRES charity? Most variations on
>Xianty only recommend it.
Do you know that Islam requires to kill all unbelievers "wherever ye
find them " (Quran 9:5)? Who the fuck cares about charity after
murdering recipients of the charity ?
> >Christians that bend over bacwards to let you walk all over them and
> >America and forgive you.
>Does this mean you're forgiving the shooter?
Just for giving you another chance for another mass murder?
staten
Yeah right, he was so heroic that they were ashamed to put his full
name and his rank on the tombstone.
Nice scum, but no bananas.
staten
You may also to add Nazis to this compny. Rememner Amin Al Husseini?
Phlip
> Do you know that Islam requires to kill all unbelievers "wherever ye
> find them " (Quran 9:5)? Who the fuck cares about charity after
> murdering recipients of the charity ?
Numbers thru Deuteronomy are all about killing every infidel - and plenty of
Israelites, too! Moses says to kill the infidels wherever you find them. Oh, and
~32 virgin girls get sacrificed to the Lord, too!
But something tells me you are not Xtian enough to give a crap.
Phlip
>> Here's one - hiding like a coward in a box underground:
>>
>> http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2210933/2/istockpho...
>
> Yeah right, he was so heroic that they were ashamed to put his full
> name and his rank on the tombstone.
> Nice scum, but no bananas.
Dude, go to Arlington and say that out loud.
staten
> > Do you know that Islam requires to kill all unbelievers "wherever ye
> > find them " (Quran 9:5)? Who the fuck cares about charity after
> > murdering recipients of the charity ?
>
> Numbers thru Deuteronomy are all about killing every infidel - and plenty of
> Israelites, too! Moses says to kill the infidels wherever you find them. Oh, and
> ~32 virgin girls get sacrificed to the Lord, too!
Yes, it is about killing but not all infidels , as you speculate, but
just certain tribes that in God's eyes deserved to be punished. This
was a specific command, given at a specific time to the specific
tribe concerning a discrete target. Those are obviously historical
passages, and they no more inspire violence than reading an account
of the Japanese attack on the people of Nanjing in 1937.
By contrast, when you read the word of Allah in Sura 8:12: “I will
instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above
their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.” , there is no
historical context whatsoever. This means that murdering all infidels
who refuse Islamic faith is as valid today as it was in 6th
century .That's why This is why Christians and Jews do not treat these
verses as present-day imperatives and they are not losing their
heads to fanatics screaming praises to Jesus (or Moses, or Buddha or
to the numerous Hindu gods ) and do not go on murderous sprees
killing innocent people in the name of their religions.
But the Muslims do exactly what the Quran dictates and that's why
there are so many Mujslim terrorists in this world and it's getting
not better but worse from year toyear.
>But something tells me you are not Xtian enough to give a crap.
Something tells me that you have no clue what you are bubbling about,
jihadi apologist.
staten
Where is your proof this pic is from Arlington?
Phlip
> On Nov 6, 5:03 pm, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> staten wrote:
>>> Do you know that Islam requires to kill all unbelievers "wherever ye
>>> find them " (Quran 9:5)? Who the fuck cares about charity after
>>> murdering recipients of the charity ?
>> Numbers thru Deuteronomy are all about killing every infidel - and plenty of
>> Israelites, too! Moses says to kill the infidels wherever you find them. Oh, and
>> ~32 virgin girls get sacrificed to the Lord, too!
>
> Yes, it is about killing but not all infidels , as you speculate, but
> just certain tribes that in God's eyes deserved to be punished.
Nice try. Firstly, most of those tribes never explicitly did anything to the
Israelites. Next, the Lord repeatedly said to croak them, which means you can't
play the "man-on-man violence". Next, the tribe that bought it worst was the
Middianites - whence came Moses' mysteriously vanished wife.
And, on the banks of the River Jordan, before Israel crossed into the Promised
Land (filled, natch, with usurping Palestinians), Moses tells his people to kill
the infidel wherever you find them, even if they are your wife.
Oh, and guess what happen to the virgin Middianite girls who _weren't_ sacrificed...
Phlip
none. you know how to use google images, right? crescent tombstone arlington.
You will find a ton of them
staten
wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:57:14 -0500, elmer wrote:
> > 5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09 wrote:
> >> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:36:15 -0500, elmer wrote:
>
> >>> 5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09 wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:49:06 -0800, Travoltron wrote:
>
> >>>>> 5272 Dead, 405 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>
> >>>>>> You are, bubbles. You've jumped to conclusions based on the name
> >>>>>> of one of the shooters.
> >>>>> He was disciplined for pushing Islam onto his patients. This has
> >>>>> been reported in the media. So you apologists will have to find a
> >>>>> new angle.
> >>>> Where did you hear that, bubbles? Faux? Free Republic? News Max?
> >>>> Some other trash right wing outfit?
>
>
> >>>> stories
>
> >>>> Violence in the US involving soldiers is commonplace, with a rise in
> >>>> domestic abuse, murder and suicide since the wars began in
> >>>> Afghanistan and Iraq. But there is nothing commonplace about Major
> >>>> Nidal Malik Hasan, the soldier responsible for the biggest mass
> >>>> killing at a military base in the US.
>
> >>>> He was not a soldier returning from deployment in either Iraq or
> >>>> Afghanistan, suffering from stress or combat fatigue. Hasan,
> >>>> although 39 years old, he had never served in a war zone. Instead,
> >>>> his horror of war came second-hand. He was a psychiatrist who
> >>>> listened to the harrowing stories of his comrades at the Walter Reed
> >>>> Hospital in Washington DC, and latterly at Fort Hood, Texas.
>
> >>>> Unusually for a soldier, Hasan appeared to have little taste for
> >>>> violence, at least up until yesterday. His cousin, Nader Hasan, said:
> >>>> "He was someone who did not enjoy going to the firing range." That
> >>>> may have been a consequence of the stories he had heard in the
> >>>> hospital wards from the returning soldiers.
>
> >>>> Hasan was an unhappy soldier, according to his family and colleagues,
> >>>> not at first, but as his career progressed. Nader Hasan said his
> >>>> cousin, though born in America, had suffered harassment from fellow
> >>>> soldiers who questioned his loyalty to the US and commented on his
> >>>> Middle East ethnicity. As a Muslim, he was upset at the killing of
> >>>> Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan and Nader Hasan confirmed that he had
> >>>> been resisting deployment in either war zone.
>
> >>>> He had been scheduled for deployment to Iraq at the end of the year
> >>>> and had told colleagues repeatedly he did not want to go. He felt
> >>>> trapped, looking at ways to buy his way out, even going to the extent
> >>>> of hiring a lawyer to seek if he could leave military service
> >>>> honourably.
>
> >>>> After a killing on this scale, there will inevitably be questions
> >>>> about whether the fact that Hasan was a Muslim was a factor, and
> >>>> whether the incident will fuel tension between Muslims and
> >>>> non-Muslims in the US military.
>
> >>>> There was tension, but on a lesser scale, mainly because it was
> >>>> overshadowed by the invasion of Iraq, when Sergeant Hasan Akbar in
> >>>> 2003 threw a grenade into a tent of his comrades in Kuwait. He was
> >>>> sentenced two years later to death and the prosecution claimed he had
> >>>> been motivated by Islamist extremism.
>
> >>>> The case of Major Nidal Malik Hasan is much more complicated, the
> >>>> motivation less clear. He was brought up at Roanoke, in rural
> >>>> Virginia, and then went to Virginia Tech, where he joined the Officer
> >>>> Training Corps. From there, he went into the military and trained as
> >>>> a psychiatrist.
>
> >>>> He served at Walter Reed, one of the main hospitals in the US for
> >>>> soldiers recovering from physical and mental illness. He was
> >>>> promoted in May and transferred from Walter Reed to Fort Hood. He was
> >>>> said to be single, with no children.
>
> >>>> His problem may have been one of alienation, as his family suggested
> >>>> yesterday, a common complaint of recent or second-generation
> >>>> immigrants, as was the case of the Virginia Tech shooter three years
> >>>> ago, whose family was South Korean.
>
> >>>> A retired colonel, Terry Lee, who worked beside Hasan in a ward, said
> >>>> he had been unhappy about US foreign policy and had made several
> >>>> comments that the US should not be in Iraq and Afghanistan.
>
> >>>> Lee cited an incident earlier this year as having had a big influence
> >>>> on Hasan â?? a fatal shooting at an army recruiting base in Little
> >>>> Rock, Arkansas. The suspect, Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, faces
> >>>> trial for murder.
>
> >>>> One of the ironies of yesterday's killings was that while Hasan was
> >>>> on the rampage at Fort Hood, military veterans were in Washington
> >>>> campaigning for more help in dealing with mental health problems,
> >>>> mainly for returning soldiers.
>
> >>>> Paul Sullivan, executive director of Veterans for Common Sense, said
> >>>> that he and others had warned that an incident such as the one which
> >>>> unfolded yesterday had been on the cards for a long time. "We warned
> >>>> the military about this. We warned the military about the need to
> >>>> increase the number of mental health care providers," he said. "We
> >>>> warned the military about lowering recruiting standards, about the
> >>>> medical exams for soldiers coming back from the war and needing
> >>>> mental health care and brain injury exams.
>
> >>>> "We have been working tirelessly to try to prevent this from
> >>>> happening," he said. "This is so horrible. This is a tragedy."
>
> >>>> The problem is that Hasan was not a damaged soldier, but one of the
> >>>> mental health care providers that Sullivan was pressing the military
> >>>> to recruit more of.
>
> >>>> The US military is dealing with a rising number of stress-related
> >>>> homicides and suicides among soldiers either serving in Iraq and
> >>>> Afghanistan, or who have returned from duty in those conflicts. Many
> >>>> troops are on their third or fourth tour of combat tour.
>
> >>>> Some studies suggest that about 15% of soldiers returning from Iraq
> >>>> suffer from emotional problems.
>
> >>>> Last year there were 128 confirmed suicides by serving US army
> >>>> personnel, and 41 by serving marines â?? the highest number since
> >>>> records began in 1980.
>
> >>>> Another 15 army deaths were still under investigation when the
> >>>> figures were released in February.
>
> >>>> The confirmed rate of army suicides was 20.2 per 100,000 last year.
> >>>> In 2002, the army suicide rate was just 9.8 per 100,000. The last
> >>>> time it exceeded the civilian rate was at the height of the Vietnam
> >>>> war.
>
> >>>> Sullivan was trying to persuade Congress members to recruit more
> >>>> mental health workers. That is the irony of his call. It was a
> >>>> psychiatrist that was responsible for the multiple deaths yesterday.
>
> >>>> Hasan did not fit the classic pattern of a stressed soldier. But
> >>>> someone listening day after day to troops describing the tension and
> >>>> carnage in Iraq and Afghanistan could end up as damaged as those
> >>>> facing combat at first hand.
>
> >>> It is not hate it is fear and prudence. The Guardian is hardly a
> >>> source. He was a Muslim who proclaimed his anger over the false
> >>> accusation that we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. We are after the
> >>> Taliban and other Terrorist groups. We have claimed no territory or
> >>> rule of either Country. Indeed our efforts will benefit the Citizens
> >>> of these Countries. It was an act of Terrorism. His allegiance was not
> >>> to our God and Country. He served for his convenience not to defend
> >>> and protect the Republic. His allegiance is to Mohammed's murder cult.
> >>> That's not politically correct. It is error to embrace Fundamentalist
> >>> Muslims while they follow a teaching that commands our murder. You
> >>> want our acceptance only to make it convenient to cut our throat. You
> >>> don't like us saying like it is tough. I'll treat you just like anyone
> >>> else but I will be cautious of you.
>
> >> The Guardian is a far better source than the Telegraph or Free Republic
> >> are any of that trash.
>
> >> We're occupying two countries, you dumb son of a bitch. Don't you real
> >> newspapers? We've been in Afghanistan since 2002, and Iraq since 2003.
>
> >> You don't know why the fuck he was in the army, or why he blew up. You
> >> are just a frightened little bigot who can only respond with "Moslem!
> >> Kill!"
>
> >> Only of course, you'll never do any killing yourself, unless it's to
> >> blow up a school bus full of Moslem kids or something equally
> >> courageous...
> > You think I or anyone swallow your garbage.Civilians get killed when
> > Muslims use them as shields or put their hides in the middle of the
> > innocents. Muslim sre responsible for 100% of Civilian deaths. Our ethic
> > and command is to not tarket Innocents. The Muslims use that knowledge
> > against us. Muslims have no such compunction they like Mao and Stalin
> > and others will kill anone including their neighbors if if furthers
> > their cause.
>
> great evil Moslems are. "responsible for 100% of civilian deaths"? What
> utter, cowardly crap!-
This is not a crap. Muslims committed 14,430 deadly terrorist attacks
since 9/11. Not Christians, not Jews, Not Hindus, not Thais not any
other representatives of all other religions on earth , but Muslims
and Muslims only. http://thereligionofpeace.com/
Islam is a great evil. Islam is a curse on humanity. All freedom
loving people must unite and to destroy Islam and its subservient
Dhimmis, like yourself, before Islam and Dhimmis destroy us.
>
Phlip
> This is not a crap. Muslims committed 14,430 deadly terrorist attacks
> since 9/11. Not Christians, not Jews, Not Hindus, not Thais not any
> other representatives of all other religions on earth , but Muslims
> and Muslims only.
And absolutely nobody else committed any terror attacks?
(Oh, and another stat you never heard of - the rate of terrorist incidences
almost doubled every year since 9/11. So much for "stopping" terrorism - we
essentially became their recruitment poster!)
> Islam is a great evil. Islam is a curse on humanity. All freedom
> loving people must unite and to destroy Islam and its subservient
> Dhimmis, like yourself, before Islam and Dhimmis destroy us.
Except Cat Stevens. He gets a pass, k?
staten
This is not about Israelites and not about "doing something to them",
you idiot. Don't try to update the Old Testament to your stupid fairy
tales about "palestinians" who were invented in 1970s..
It was a command of God to destroy the pagan and sinful tribes who
fell in a total disgrace in His eyes.
“But of the cities of these peoples which Yahweh your God gives you
as an inheritance, you shall let nothing that breathes remain alive,
but you shall utterly destroy them — the Hittite, Amorite, Canaanite,
Perizzite, Hivite, and Jebusite — just as Yahweh your God has
commanded you, lest they teach you to do according to all their
abominations which they have done for their gods, and you sin against
Yahweh your God “(Deuteronomy 20: 16-18).
Yahweh clearly ordered the Hebrews to annihilate the Canaanites and
surrounding peoples. Such violence is therefore an expression of God’s
will, for good or ill. Regardless, all the historic violence committed
by the Hebrews and recorded in the Old Testament is just that —
history. It happened; God commanded it, whether you like it or hate
it. When Hebrews sinned against God they were punished as well. This
is a nature of God – God hates sin and punishes those who trespass His
divine laws. This is the key point of the OT – the relationship of
God and people , not your idiotic attempt to tie the Palestinian and
Jewish conflict to the OT. It is terribly stupid and wrong!
staten
This is not a proof. Source and numbers. That's what counts.
staten
> staten wrote:
> > This is not a crap. Muslims committed 14,430 deadly terrorist attacks
> > since 9/11. Not Christians, not Jews, Not Hindus, not Thais not any
> > other representatives of all other religions on earth , but Muslims
> > and Muslims only.
>
> And absolutely nobody else committed any terror attacks?
No! No nationals in the entire world committed 14, 430 deadly
terrorist attacks but Muslims! Period.
> (Oh, and another stat you never heard of - the rate of terrorist incidences
> almost doubled every year since 9/11. So much for "stopping" terrorism - we
> essentially became their recruitment poster!)
>
> > Islam is a great evil. Islam is a curse on humanity. All freedom
> > loving people must unite and to destroy Islam and its subservient
> > Dhimmis, like yourself, before Islam and Dhimmis destroy us.
>
> Except Cat Stevens. He gets a pass, k?
Don't care. Islam is evil!
Phlip
>> none. you know how to use google images, right? crescent tombstone arlington.
>> You will find a ton of them
>
> This is not a proof. Source and numbers. That's what counts.
okay, staten. No non-Muslims committed any terror attacks at all in the past 10
years, and no Muslims whatsoever are buried at Arlington.
Phlip
>> Except Cat Stevens. He gets a pass, k?
>
> Don't care. Islam is evil!
But he did the song "Where do the Children Play" for peet's sake!
staten
> almost doubled every year since 9/11. So much for "stopping" terrorism - we
> essentially became their recruitment poster!)
>
And this is a direct result of how we treat jihad and Islam today
During WWII we didn't shower Nazis with money, food and did try to
“win their hearts and minds” but mercilessly bombed and killed them
in their own den. I we would apply Hiroshima and Dresden treatment to
Islam, jihad would be history long time ago. Oh, Gen. Patton we so
badly miss you!
staten
Proof? How many Muslims killed defending the US?
knews4...@yahoo.com
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:07:07 -0800, orion314 <m...@curio.com> wrote:
> > It is time for people to grow up and stop believing in fairy tales.
> > RELIGION IS NOTHING BUT A MENTAL DISORDER.
>
> True but more of a meme or self-delusion than a clinical condition. It
> is entirely voluntary, addictive, suppresses higher thought, logic,
> rationality, exclusive, divisive and invariably cruel.
>
> The problem arises in a free society, people have an inalienable right to
> be crazymotherfuckers. There is no way to legislate or mandate thought
> in a free society and have but two choices, lose our liberty or put up
> with crazymotherfuckers.
>
> We can, as a nation, combat the meme of crazymotherfuckers but it will be
> a hard slog. America is still full of neo-Puritans wishing to enslave us
> to their superstition. From pastors, rabbi's, ministers, fathers, imans
> in the military to an un-Constitutional tax exemption for church property
> to the current health bill which now includes "spiritual counseling"
> these crazymotherfuckers attempt to shove their insanity down our
> collective throats. Just say "NO"!
>
> Instead of reacting when one of their wackos goes postal recognize that
> religion is a constant threat to liberty, freedom and peace. Do not
> relent in the battle against their superstition and encroachment of our
> liberties for the crazymotherfuckers work at enslaving us at all times.
>
> Speak out forcefully when the insane pretend to speak for some god or
> other. Put them back in their respective boxes, protest their abuse of
> the public common and good, halt the use of tax money to subsidize any
> brand of insanity.
>
> But do not attempt to revoke their rights for that inevitably boomerangs
> with the same tools being used against everyone. Religion is, as you a
> mental disorder, and the infected must be treated as such. Not treated
> as though they are sane or rational.
>
> Yes, Moslems are crazymotherfuckers. So are Christians, Jews,
> Zoroastrians, believers in Zeus, Thor, Shinto. Remain alert and active
> when the fundamentalists bang on your door Saturday morning. Tell them
> unequivocably that they are crazymotherfuckers. Shame them, ridicule
> them for what they are but do not abridge their Constitutional rights.
>
> Do not get bogged down in the mud with pigs, take the high road. This
> event was not one single Moslem but a typical representative of the
> larger class of crazymotherfuckers who flipped. Religionists snap often
> snap from the constant denial they've created in their reality bubble.
> Religionists are not sane, do not expect rational behavior. Be aware
> that they do weird shit at inopportune times. It should be no surprise
> when the pressure of war causes many to go psycho. That is predictable,
> which crazymotherfucker flips and when is impossible to predict.
>
> Rail against the greater problem. That is insanity portrayed as sane.
> Religionists are not sane, they're crazymotherfuckers.
>
> --
> Regards, Curly
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Bible: Slavery Good, Gays Bad, Snakes Talk
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Phlip
> On Nov 6, 6:32 pm, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> staten wrote:
>>
>> (Oh, and another stat you never heard of - the rate of terrorist incidences
>> almost doubled every year since 9/11. So much for "stopping" terrorism - we
>> essentially became their recruitment poster!)
> And this is a direct result of how we treat jihad and Islam today
Okay brave warrior. How about you start with Saudi Arabia? They financed 9/11 -
it's no secret everyone knows the complete details - and all the 9/11 terrorists
came from either SA or one of their satellite emirates. None were Afghan or Iraqi.
Oh, or are we ... APPEASING the Saudis? By attacking their enemies for them in
response? And don't we SHOWER the Saudis with money, food, & gifts, and try to
"win their hearts and minds"?
kangarooistan
I dont TRUST anything the yanks say, especially when at war or in a
military incident
MATE we can all READ, we KNOW they wont tell the TRUTH for years and
YEARS
clearly this is another CIA and mossad attempt to SLOW the numbers of
USA soldiers converting to ISLAM
Muslims only need go underground and DONT TELL THEM they are Muslim
when joining the Military like they always used too
WHY tell anybody you are a Muslim , that way its easy to see who the
REAL terrorists are when you see what western soldiers really do to
Muslims its EASY to tell who the REAL terrorists are and gather the
evidence for when the war crimes trials start
GO UNDERGROUND , gather EVIDENCE , time will come when we can arrest
the REAL terrorists
kanga
=====
Like when the Aussie soldiers under ORDERS from John Monash attacked
the picnic train in Broken Hill in 1915
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_of_Broken_Hill
Some STILL blame a couple of old muslims to HIDE the fact that it was
gun happy Australian soldiers and/or a black flag recruiting
propaganda exercise
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_MonashMonash recruited tens of
thousands of DUMB aussies from his propaganda attack
Tens of THOUSANDS of DUMB aussies volunteered to DIE for a lie
60,000 DUMB aussies happily DIED for this broken hill LIE, who knows
how many DUMB yanks will happily die for this round of propaganda from
fort Hood
we wont know what really happened at fort Hood for many decades when
the FACTS are declassified
the TRUTH will be manipulated to make Muslims look bad and make
soldiers look good , thats ALWAYS what happens in wars
Spin doctors wont let the TRUTH come out for decades , but the truth
can be FOUND by those who care to look ,the mainstream media ALWAYS
carry the PROPAGANDA and as you say , they ALWAYS get it WRONG, we can
all read history mate , they NEVER EVER tell the truth when at WAR
Like My Lai massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre
The military NEVER tell the TRUTH for decades
staten
Muslims also do the song- “kill all unbelievers wherever you find
them “ (Q9:5) . And that's why we had 9/11, 3/11/, 7/7, Beslan ,
Bali, Mumbai, 14,430 deadly terrorist attacks since 9/11, mountains
of dead bodies and oceans of blood.
Moslem cartoon character mohammed was a paedophile 6th century warlord and goat fucker who cooked up a false religion in order to supplement brutality as a means of bringing people (shitskin dunecoons) under subjection - Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA., Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal stained moslems
shitskin moslem -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/06/fort-hood-shooting-suspect-alive
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, Hijack a plane,
Hijack a ship, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
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Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
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‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah
were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
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helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
kaled...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
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/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
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Wassim Noujeim (shitskin moslem Faris Jawad) left Canada to attend a
terrorist training camp in Jordan, and he spent his last nigh in Canda
at this hotel : MONTREAL-AIRPORT,,6500 COTE DE LIESSE,MONTREAL, QC
H4T1E3 CANADA,Hotel Front Desk: 1-514-7393391 :::: Shitskin moslem,
Wassim Noujeim, abusing this service :- Canada, Saint-laurent, QC
h4t1e3, Cote De Liesse Hotels, Bell Canada ---
Wassim Noujeim. 8110 Pesant Saint-Leonard, QC H1R 2Y2 Canada.
Phone: +1 514 728 0550 mailto: nou...@yahoo.com -
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Hamzeh Abu-Abed
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
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Dan
They were killed to make room for the Israelites, and to keep enemies
off the flanks and read during wars of conquest.
The Israelite god (just one of many gods in the bible, actually) is a
pretty blood-thirsty character, and has gotten a lot of airplay over the
centuries for a small-time local deity in a remote corner of the world.
If you look closely, most evangelical (radical, extremist,
fundamentalist) xtians are really NOT christians: they almost
exclusively use the Old Book for their political guide, and fail to ever
actually refer to the New Book for anything but their armageddon fantasy.
Dan
Dan
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:07:07 -0800, orion314 <ma...@curio.com> wrote:
>
>> It is time for people to grow up and stop believing in fairy tales.
>> RELIGION IS NOTHING BUT A MENTAL DISORDER.
>
> True but more of a meme or self-delusion than a clinical condition.
In this individual's case, it appears to be a true mental disorder:
listening to PTSD front-line soldiers' experiences (very graphic) for
several years, then being posted off to the grid-forsaken heckhole they
returned from... I'll bet he thought he was doing those poor bastards a
favor.
Dan
Dan
> On Nov 5, 6:08 pm, staten <state...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
>> Haters? 11 people are dead murdered execution style, close range by a
>> Muslim. Who are haters here?
>
> Whenever a Christian does it, y'all blame anything except his
> religion...
Bingo!
Dan
staten
> staten wrote:
> > On Nov 6, 6:32 pm, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> staten wrote:
>
> >> (Oh, and another stat you never heard of - the rate of terrorist incidences
> >> almost doubled every year since 9/11. So much for "stopping" terrorism - we
> >> essentially became their recruitment poster!)
> > And this is a direct result of how we treat jihad and Islam today
>
> Okay brave warrior. How about you start with Saudi Arabia? They financed 9/11 -
> it's no secret everyone knows the complete details - and all the 9/11 terrorists
> came from either SA or one of their satellite emirates.
They sure did and keep doing. Now they even buy our politicians and
our universities with our petrodollars. That's why Muslim terrorism is
flourishing.
>None were Afghan or Iraqi.
Afghanistan and Iraq are Saudi's, Iran's and Syria's proxies. There is
no one Muslim or Arab country that would be friendly to us. They all
are enemies and parasites sucking our treasure dry.
>Oh, or are we ... APPEASING the Saudis?
Of course we do. Look at the Muslim Obama how he smooches Islamist
asses. .
>By attacking their enemies for them in response?
What enemies? Islam is our principal enemy .
>And don't we SHOWER the Saudis with money, food, & gifts, and try to
>"win their hearts and minds
Yes we do, and we shower Jordan , Fakestinians, Egypt and other Arab
and Muslim parasites. Not only we, but Europe and the rest of the
world as well. The world is thirsty for Arab oil. Islamic terrorism is
rising.
Steve
Bullshit! The guy is a Muslum terrorist.
--
Contrary to what liberals are whining, nobody
owes you anything.
staten
Christians do not highjack passenger jets , don't crash them against
tall buildings, don't behead people like chicken and don't mass
murder others just because they are not Christians.
Bingo annulled
Gandalf Grey
"staten" <stat...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 6, 8:07 pm, Dan <dnada...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Phlip wrote:
> > On Nov 5, 6:08 pm, staten <state...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> >> Haters? 11 people are dead murdered execution style, close range by a
> >> Muslim. Who are haters here?
>
> > Whenever a Christian does it, y'all blame anything except his
> > religion...
>
> Bingo!
^ Christians do not highjack passenger jets , don't crash them against
tall buildings,
No. They just load up vans and pickups with explosives and blow up the
entire building or crash their pickups into buildings and jump out and shoot
people dead or murder doctors for not holding with the 'Christian' viewpoint
they say they represent.
Stop the fucking lying, asshole.