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NUR

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Apr 5, 2009, 1:53:07 AM4/5/09
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http://www.iranian.com/main/blog/nur/theocratic-bahai-state-iran

To my question:

"Do you believe that Baha'ism should replace the national religion in
Iran, and is your organization attempting to replace the mullah's
theocracy with a Baha'i theocracy?"

Faryarm responds:

"Bahais Believe that, Islam has run its course; its teachings were
never meant for the 20 and 21st centuries; and as Baha’u’llah
cautioned:

"O people of the Koran," Bahá'u'lláh, addressing the combined forces
of Sunni and Shi'ih Islám, significantly affirms, "Verily the Prophet
Of God, Muhammad, sheddeth tears at the sight of your cruelty. Ye have
assuredly followed your evil and corrupt desires, and turned away your
face from the light of guidance. Erelong will ye witness the result of
your deeds: for the Lord. My God, lieth in wait and is watchful of
your behaviour ... O concourse of Muslim divines! By your deeds the
exalted station of the people hath been abased, the standard of Islam
hath been reversed, and mighty throne hath fallen."

Since Baha’u’llah foresaw the day when the actions of the shia mullah
has “abased” the people of Iran leading to the fall and “the standard
of Islam” in the eyes of the people, to the extent that these days
the average conversation about religion and Islam amongst the young
and the educated leads to these days to outright disgust and
rejection. Iranians are sick of lies and the religious hypocricy they
daily witness in the name of Islam.

I sincerely believe that the people of the world are spiritually
straved, longing and reaching for meaning in their lives. That each
perso has to take and experience that search and journey.

As For Iran, I do believe that One day The Bahai Faith will be
recognised in Iran; when Iranians will be free to choose and practice
their faith freely. Whether The people of Iran will choose to accept
Baha’u’llah and his teachings as The Answer will depend on an
absolutely free and unfettered personal search and investigation.

I also believe the inevitible Mullahs’/Azali/Bayani Nightmare will
come to pass, as the people of Iran will soon give recognition to the
Bahais for their longstanding and steadfast stand on Principle and
Belief against the brutal persecution of the backward and corrupt Shia
establishment, along with the machinations of Azali/Bayanis during the
life of Baha’u’llah and Abdul-Baha."

This a clear, albeit equivocal, statement in the affirmative by a
Haifan Baha'i that indeed their aim is completely political - with any
humanitarian aspect of their current propaganda in the West about
purported human rights violations being completely tangential to their
ultimate aim of wishing and working towards taking raw power - and so
that any participation by them in an opposition capacity to the
Islamic republic is designed purely and specifically for the ultimate
aim of replacing the mullah's theocracy with their own Stalinist brand
of religious theocracy.

This is what all the signatorees of the various letter campaigns
posted here are ultimately supporting, probably unbeknownst to even
themselves: the replacement of the mullahs theocratic dictatorship
with a stalinist totalitarian Baha'i Theocratic nightmare-state in
Iran.

You heard it here first, folks!


See article, the Baha'i Faith.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith

All Bad

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Well I don't believe any religion should replace Islam in Iran. I think it
should be a secular democracy. I also think all faiths lead to God but I
disagree with Garyarm. I think all religions are still relevant and still
will lead to God.

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On Apr 6, 9:57 am, "Yaako Warrior

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CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

On Apr 5, 10:55 pm, "All Bad" <AllBad_notrea...@md.metrocast.net>
wrote:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pat_kohli


Pat Kohli


Pat Kohli, or Patrick Kohli, is a member of the Haifan Baha'i Faith
[1]
who makes regular contributions to the USENET newsgroup
talk.religion.bahai[2]. He is a computer programmer who has worked on
software for various projects, including military systems.


Contents [hide]
1 Background
2 Articles and Resources
2.1 Related SourceWatch Articles
2.2 References
2.3 External Articles


[edit]Background
He "is a computer scientist assigned to 4.5.3.3. He works for PMA-231
as the Open Architecture (OA) IPT lead, in the OA/FORCEnet IPT of the
Network Centric Warfare IPT. Prior to this he worked at Saint Inigoes
for 4.5 and developed a prototype next generation flight data
recorder, using COTS components, to meet incident reporting,
maintenance and FOQA needs. Pat also supported the old PMA-282 which
did weapon control systems for guided missiles. Pat has an MS in
computer Information Systems from Florida Tech." [3]


"Pat Kohli, NCW Open Architecture Lead, demonstrated how the E-2/C-2
program office (PMA-231) is continuously evaluating and implementing
software modernization to facilitate transition of the existing E-2
operational flight program to an environment using commercially
available systems. Venlet said, "The Naval Aviation Enterprise has
embraced open architecture as a fundamental building block of weapon
system development from its very inception. Our government/industry
teams continue to leverage these open system strategies and concepts
in achieving reduction in overall development cycle times and
delivering increased system capabilities to the Fleet faster and
cheaper. The advantages of integrating open architecture designs and
contracting strategies are measurable and pronounced as is
substantiated by our E-2D Advanced Hawkeye and P-8 Multi-Mission
Aircraft development programs. The key to continued success will be
maintaining the close partnership with industry experts, as we
provide
the right capabilities, at the right time and right cost to the joint
warfighter."The E-2 Hawkeye team has been representing and directly
supporting Venlet's executive office - the aviation domain lead for
open architecture initiatives - since June 2004, because of its role
as a battle management command and control platform and a central
network communications node in aviation. E-2 Program Manager Capt.
Randy Mahrsaid, "Today's evolving E-2 open architecture model paves
the way for a more mature system to be used by the E-2D prior to it
taking its place in the fleet."[3]


Pat Kohli has maintained a consistent web presence since the late
1990s, particularly on USENET, addressing both external critics and
dissenters within the Haifan Baha'i Faith tradition to which he
belongs [5]. In 1998, he voted against the creation of the USENET
group, talk.religion.bahai, as an un-moderated discussion forum for
issues relating to the Baha'i faith [4]. Official discussion
regarding
the creation of this group may also be found at: [6]. He posts under
the handles Mr All Bad and All_Bad [5]


[edit]Articles and Resources
[edit]Related SourceWatch Articles
PMA Group
[edit]References
↑ Letter from Assistant Secretary, Kishan Manocha, on Behalf of
National Spiritual Assembly of the Baha'is of the United Kingdom [1],
dated October 8, 2002, Accessed 17 February, 2009.
↑ Discussion Archive of USENET group Talk.Religion.Baha'i, [2],
Accessed February 17, 2009
↑ 3.0 3.1 Drema Ballengee-Grunst, "Assistant SecNav visits NAVAIR T&E
laboratory", November 10, 2005.
↑ Record of votes cast regarding the creation of the USENET group,
talk.religion.bahai,[3], Accessed February 17, 2009.
↑ Excerpt from USENET group talk.religion.bahai,[4], Accessed
February
17, 2009.
[edit]External Articles


Retrieved from "http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pat_Kohli"
Categories: United States | Religion | Military | War/peace

NUR

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On Apr 6, 9:36 am, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well I don't believe any religion should replace Islam in Iran. I think it
> should be a secular democracy.


That is the point, and it is definitely not what these globalist New
World Order freaks are out to attain.


>I also think all faiths lead to God but I
> disagree with Garyarm. I think all religions are still relevant and still
> will lead to God.

Yes, all *valid*, revealed Traditional Religions will lead to Spirit.

W

Seon Ferguson

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"NUR" <hura...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Apr 6, 9:36 am, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well I don't believe any religion should replace Islam in Iran. I think
>> it
>> should be a secular democracy.
>
>
> That is the point, and it is definitely not what these globalist New
> World Order freaks are out to attain.
>
>

I agree they want a one world religion not a secular world which is what I
would prefer. (I mean I want governments to be secular I don't want to ban
religions)

>>I also think all faiths lead to God but I
>> disagree with Garyarm. I think all religions are still relevant and still
>> will lead to God.
>
> Yes, all *valid*, revealed Traditional Religions will lead to Spirit.
>

Yeah my view is that there is no one way to view God or one name for God.
When a Muslim prays to Allah, he or she is praying to God, when a Christian
prays to Jesus (I am still not sure if he existed or not) he or she is
praying to God etc. We do not need to end any valid religions just because a
new prophet may or may not have come.
> W

NUR

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On Apr 6, 11:31 am, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree they want a one world religion not a secular world which is what I
> would prefer. (I mean I want governments to be secular I don't want to ban
> religions)


But that is _precisely_ the agenda of the globalist elite, they want
to bring about One Man-Made Religion and do away with all the others
-- ergo Haifan Baha'ism. Also read this book,
http://www.sophiaperennis.com/shop/perennis/64
False Dawn
The United Religions Initiative, Globalism, and the Quest for a One-
World Religion

"Description:

The interfaith movement, which began with the 1893 World's Parliament
of Religions in Chicago, has grown worldwide. Although this movement
has been largely unknown to the public, it now provides a spiritual
face for globalization, the economic and political forces leading us
all from nationalism to 'One World'. The most ambitious organization
in today's interfaith movement is the United Religions Initiative
(URI), founded by William Swing, the Episcopal Bishop of California.
Investigative reporter Lee Penn, a Catholic ex-Marxist, exhaustively
documents the history and beliefs of the URI and its New Age and
globalist allies, the vested interests that support these movements,
and the direction they appear to be taking.

The interfaith movement is no longer merely the province of a coterie
of little-heeded religious idealists with grandiose visions. The URI's
proponents have ranged from billionaire George Soros to President
George W. Bush, from the far-right Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the liberal
Catholic theologian Hans Kung, and from the Dalai Lama to the leaders
of government-approved Protestant churches in the People's Republic of
China. The interfaith movement, including the URI, is being promoted
by globalist and New Age reformers who favor erosion of national
sovereignty, marginalization of traditional religions, establishment
of 'global governance', and creation of a new, Earth-based 'global
spirituality'—in effect, a one-world religion. Therefore, the URI and
the interfaith movement are poised to become the spiritual foundation
of the New World Order: the 'new civilization' now proposed by Mikhail
Gorbachev, the last leader of the Soviet Union.

In The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times, French
metaphysician René Guénon spoke of the 'anti-tradition' (the forces of
materialism and secular humanism) finally giving way to the 'counter-
tradition' (the satanic inversion of true spirituality), leading to
the regime of Antichrist. The 'anti-tradition' weakens and dissolves
traditional spiritualities, after which the 'counter-tradition' sets
up a counterfeit in their place. Since Guénon's time, as is well
known, anti-traditional forces have greatly advanced worldwide. It is
less well-known that counter-traditional movements have also made
great strides, and now stand closer to the centers of global political
and religious power than ever before. The 'counter-tradition' is
making inroads on the political and cultural Right, as much as it is
doing on the Left. False Dawn painstakingly documents these trends,
and speculates on their future development. In so doing, the author
takes investigative reporting to the threshold of prophecy, and gives
us a stunningly plausible picture of the global religious landscape of
the 21st century. This extraordinary project is the literary
equivalent of turning over a flat rock. There is much to be seen and
learned here—all of it unsettling, disquieting, occasionally downright
scary.

When a bishop of a Christian church happily worships alongside a
Wiccan invoking other gods, something has gone horribly wrong. In
False Dawn, Lee Penn has produced a comprehensive and critical history
of the United Religions Initiative. This book sounds a clear warning:
Anyone who makes theological truth subservient to utopianism
denigrates all religions.
Douglas LeBlanc, editor, GetReligion.org"

> Yeah my view is that there is no one way to view God or one name for God.
> When a Muslim prays to Allah, he or she is praying to God, when a Christian
> prays to Jesus (I am still not sure if he existed or not) he or she is
> praying to God etc. We do not need to end any valid religions just because a
> new prophet may or may not have come.

Agreed, but that is precisely what the Haifan Bahaim are out to do,
especially when they unmask themselves when saying this like,

Seon Ferguson

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"NUR" <wahid...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I don't think there is anything wrong with wiccans and Christians tolerating
each other. But I do find something wrong with that when Christians are
forced to practice this one world religion.

>> Yeah my view is that there is no one way to view God or one name for God.
>> When a Muslim prays to Allah, he or she is praying to God, when a
>> Christian
>> prays to Jesus (I am still not sure if he existed or not) he or she is
>> praying to God etc. We do not need to end any valid religions just
>> because a
>> new prophet may or may not have come.
>
> Agreed, but that is precisely what the Haifan Bahaim are out to do,
> especially when they unmask themselves when saying this like,
>

Yeah I think the one world religion will have something to do with "Gia" and
that side of environmentalism. They do unmask themselves though. One of the
things that drew me to the Bahai faith was their view that all faith's lead
to God. But now I realise they want everyone to convert to the Bahai faith.
I still support the religious right of bahai's but I also support the
religious right of orthodox bahai's and followers of the Bab and I do not
agree with that guys statement one bit.

Seon Ferguson

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"Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "NUR" <wahid...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:aac671c6-9c37-4b4d...@d7g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
>> On Apr 6, 11:31 am, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree they want a one world religion not a secular world which is what
>>> I
>>> would prefer. (I mean I want governments to be secular I don't want to
>>> ban
>>> religions)
>>
>>
>> But that is _precisely_ the agenda of the globalist elite, they want
>> to bring about One Man-Made Religion and do away with all the others
>> -- ergo Haifan Baha'ism. Also read this book,

I forgot to reply to this. the one world religion might be the bahai faith.
But I would like to know how they will force people like you to change what
they sincerely believe in their hearts. Its the whole talk of a new world
order and global government that I don't trust.

>> http://www.sophiaperennis.com/shop/perennis/64

I might, if they accept pay pal.

NUR

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On Apr 6, 8:25 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> -- ergo Haifan Baha'ism. Also read this book,
>
> I forgot to reply to this. the one world religion might be the bahai faith.
> But I would like to know how they will force people like you to change what
> they sincerely believe in their hearts.

The same way Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc, forced people.

W

Seon Ferguson

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"NUR" <wahid...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Yeah banning churches, sending people to concentration camps etc

NUR

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On Apr 7, 12:39 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Yeah banning churches, sending people to concentration camps etc

And this is precisely what a Baha'i Theocratic State would do as well.

W

Seon Ferguson

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"NUR" <wahid...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Well if that's true I oppose it. I don't want any religion to be in
government. Look at how Saudi Arabia etc turned out. As I have said before I
think governments need to be secular but like America's founding fathers I
also believe in religious freedom.

Death to Haifan Bahaism

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On Apr 7, 6:29 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "NUR" <wahidaza...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:e321c4be-2169-4e7c...@w31g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Apr 7, 12:39 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Yeah banning churches, sending people to concentration camps etc
>
> > And this is precisely what a Baha'i Theocratic State would do as well.
>
> > W
>
> Well if that's true I oppose it.

It is true. And you should oppose it by telling them outright rather
waffling back and forth as you do.


W

Seon Ferguson

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I tried to bring up the new world order but they changed the subject. Also
when I talk to some of them they say "Its not political" Yeah right.

NUR

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<Mozlems_fuck_goats_like_false_prophet_mohamm...@pislam.shiit> wrote:
> Yaako Warrior from AUZ, Korea , Germany, RSA, USA, Sweden, Hong Kong,
> Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal
>
> stained moslems. wrote:
> > Yaako Warrior from AUZ, Korea , Germany, RSA, USA, Sweden, Hong Kong,
> > Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal
> > stained moslems. wrote:
> >>http://www.iranian.com/main/blog/ahang-rabbani/baha-iran-and-contact-...

>
> >> - All Bad
>
> > HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
> > mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
> > time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
> > at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
> > a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
> > indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
> > Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
>
> > Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
>
> > helpingg...@gmail.co.za
> > helpingg...@gmail.com
> > nextsapreside...@gmail.com
> > i...@muslimmatch.com  or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
> > Achmat.Samsod...@gmail.com> > arah1...@gmail.com
> > jamia...@lantic.co.za
> > sanha-...@sanha.org.za
> > sanha...@sanha.org.za
> > sanha-...@sanha.org.za
> > helpl...@sanha.org.za
> > islamwa...@googlegroups.com
> > furtivo4...@gmail.com

> > niy...@msn.com
> > niy...@hotmail.com
>
> > ** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan  **
> >http://www.link.net
> >     Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
> > Fastlink, Jordan
> > moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
> > molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
>
> >                                _
> >                              /'_/)
> >                            ,/_  /
> >                           /    /
> >                     /'_'/'   '/'__'7,
> >                  /'/    /    /    /" /_\
> >                 ('(    ' /'   ')
> >                  \      /
> >                   '\'              _.7'
> >                     \             (
> >                       \            \
>
> > Up your ass mohammad  - Elif air ab tizak!!!
>
> > helpingg...@gmail.co.za
> > helpingg...@gmail.com
> > fes...@wn.apc.org
> > nextsapreside...@gmail.com
> > i...@muslimmatch.com  or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
> > politic...@googlegroups.com
> > Achmat.Samsod...@gmail.com
> > fa...@telkomsa.net
> > jam...@islamsa.org.za
> > ds...@mweb.co.za
> > jamia...@lantic.co.za
> > sanha-...@sanha.org.za
> > sanha...@sanha.org.za
> > sanha-...@sanha.org.za
> > helpl...@sanha.org.za
> > arah1...@gmail.com
> > islamwa...@googlegroups.com
> > furtivo4...@gmail.com
> > ipc...@yebo.co.za
>
> > ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

>
> > moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
> > molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
>
> >                                _
> >                              /'_/)
> >                            ,/_  /
> >                           /    /
> >                     /'_'/'   '/'__'7,
> >                  /'/    /    /    /" /_\
> >                 ('(    ' /'   ')
> >                  \      /
> >                   '\'              _.7'
> >                     \             (
> >                       \            \
>
> > Up your ass mohammad  - Elif air ab tizak!!!
>
> > i...@muslimmatch.com  or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
> > politic...@googlegroups.com
> > Achmat.Samsod...@gmail.com
> > fa...@telkomsa.net
> > jam...@islamsa.org.za
> > ds...@mweb.co.za
> > jamia...@lantic.co.za
> > sanha-...@sanha.org.za
> > sanha...@sanha.org.za
> > sanha-...@sanha.org.za
> > helpl...@sanha.org.za
> > arah1...@gmail.com
> > islamwa...@googlegroups.com
> > furtivo4...@gmail.com
> > ipc...@yebo.co.za
>
> > ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

>
> > moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
> > molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
>
> >                                _
> >                              /'_/)
> >                            ,/_  /
> >                           /    /
> >                     /'_'/'   '/'__'7,
> >                  /'/    /    /    /" /_\
> >                 ('(    ' /'   ')
> >                  \      /
> >                   '\'              _.7'
> >                     \             (
> >                       \            \
>
> > Up your ass mohammad  - Elif air ab tizak!!!
>
> > i...@muslimmatch.com  or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
> > politic...@googlegroups.com
> > Achmat.Samsod...@gmail.com
> > fa...@telkomsa.net
> > jam...@islamsa.org.za
> > ds...@mweb.co.za
> > jamia...@lantic.co.za
> > sanha-...@sanha.org.za
> > sanha...@sanha.org.za
> > sanha-...@sanha.org.za
> > helpl...@sanha.org.za
> > arah1...@gmail.com
> > islamwa...@googlegroups.com
> > furtivo4...@gmail.com
> > ipc...@yebo.co.za
>
> > ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

>
> > moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
> > molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
>
> >                                _
> >                              /'_/)
> >                            ,/_  /
> >                           /    /
> >                     /'_'/'   '/'__'7,
> >                  /'/    /    /    /" /_\
> >                 ('(    ' /'   ')
> >                  \      /
> >                   '\'              _.7'
> >                     \             (
> >                       \            \
>
> > Up your ass mohammad  - Elif air ab tizak!!!
>
> > i...@muslimmatch.com  or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
> > politic...@googlegroups.com
> > Achmat.Samsod...@gmail.com
> > fa...@telkomsa.net
> > jam...@islamsa.org.za
> > ds...@mweb.co.za
> > jamia...@lantic.co.za
> > sanha-...@sanha.org.za
> > sanha...@sanha.org.za
> > sanha-...@sanha.org.za
> > helpl...@sanha.org.za
> > arah1...@gmail.com
> > islamwa...@googlegroups.com
> > furtivo4...@gmail.com
> > ipc...@yebo.co.za
>
> > ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

>
> > moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
> > molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
>
> >                                _
> >                              /'_/)
> >                            ,/_  /
> >                           /    /
> >                     /'_'/'   '/'__'7,
> >                  /'/    /    /    /" /_\
> >                 ('(    ' /'   ')
> >                  \      /
> >                   '\'              _.7'
> >                     \             (
> >                       \            \
>
> > Up your ass mohammad  - Elif air ab tizak!!!
>
> > i...@muslimmatch.com  or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
> > politic...@googlegroups.com
> > Achmat.Samsod...@gmail.com
> > fa...@telkomsa.net
> > jam...@islamsa.org.za
> > ds...@mweb.co.za
> > jamia...@lantic.co.za
> > sanha-...@sanha.org.za
> > sanha...@sanha.org.za
> > sanha-...@sanha.org.za
> > helpl...@sanha.org.za
> > arah1...@gmail.com
> > islamwa...@googlegroups.com
> > furtivo4...@gmail.com
> > ipc...@yebo.co.za
>
> > ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

>
> > moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
> > molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
>
> >                                _
> >                              /'_/)
> >                            ,/_  /
> >                           /    /
> >                     /'_'/'   '/'__'7,
> >                  /'/    /    /    /" /_\
> >                 ('(    ' /'   ')
> >                  \      /
> >                   '\'              _.7'
> >                     \             (
> >                       \            \
>
> > Up your ass mohammad  - Elif air ab tizak!!!
>
> > i...@muslimmatch.com  or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
> > politic...@googlegroups.com
> > Achmat.Samsod...@gmail.com
> > fa...@telkomsa.net
> > jam...@islamsa.org.za
> > ds...@mweb.co.za
> > jamia...@lantic.co.za
> > sanha-...@sanha.org.za
> > sanha...@sanha.org.za
> > sanha-...@sanha.org.za
> > helpl...@sanha.org.za
> > arah1...@gmail.com
> > islamwa...@googlegroups.com
> > furtivo4...@gmail.com
> > ipc...@yebo.co.za
>
> > ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

>
> > moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
> > molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
>
> >                                _
> >                              /'_/)
> >                            ,/_  /
> >                           /    /
> >                     /'_'/'   '/'__'7,
> >                  /'/    /    /    /" /_\
> >                 ('(    ' /'   ')
> >                  \      /
> >                   '\'              _.7'
> >                     \             (
> >                       \            \
>
> > Up your ass mohammad  - Elif air ab tizak!!!
>
> > i...@muslimmatch.com  or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
> > politic...@googlegroups.com
> > Achmat.Samsod...@gmail.com
> > fa...@telkomsa.net
> > jam...@islamsa.org.za
> > ds...@mweb.co.za
> > jamia...@lantic.co.za
> > sanha-...@sanha.org.za
> > sanha...@sanha.org.za
> > sanha-...@sanha.org.za
> > helpl...@sanha.org.za
> > arah1...@gmail.com
> > islamwa...@googlegroups.com
> > furtivo4...@gmail.com

> > ipc...@yebo.co.za
> > niy...@msn.com
> > niy...@hotmail.com
>
> > ** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan  **
> >http://www.link.net
> >     Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
> > Fastlink, Jordan
> > moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
> > molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
>
> >                                _
> >                              /'_/)
> >                            ,/_  /
> >                           /    /
> >                     /'_'/'   '/'__'7,
> >                  /'/    /    /    /" /_\
> >                 ('(    ' /'   ')
> >                  \      /
> >                   '\'              _.7'
> >                     \             (
> >                       \            \
>
> > Up your ass mohammad  - Elif air ab tizak!!!
>
> > helpingg...@gmail.co.za
> > helpingg...@gmail.com
> > fes...@wn.apc.org
> > nextsapreside...@gmail.com
> > i...@muslimmatch.com  or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
> > politic...@googlegroups.com
> > Achmat.Samsod...@gmail.com
> > fa...@telkomsa.net
> > jam...@islamsa.org.za
> > ds...@mweb.co.za
>
> ...
>
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