"Do you believe that Baha'ism should replace the national religion in Iran, and is your organization attempting to replace the mullah's theocracy with a Baha'i theocracy?"
Faryarm responds:
"Bahais Believe that, Islam has run its course; its teachings were never meant for the 20 and 21st centuries; and as Baha’u’llah cautioned:
"O people of the Koran," Bahá'u'lláh, addressing the combined forces of Sunni and Shi'ih Islám, significantly affirms, "Verily the Prophet Of God, Muhammad, sheddeth tears at the sight of your cruelty. Ye have assuredly followed your evil and corrupt desires, and turned away your face from the light of guidance. Erelong will ye witness the result of your deeds: for the Lord. My God, lieth in wait and is watchful of your behaviour ... O concourse of Muslim divines! By your deeds the exalted station of the people hath been abased, the standard of Islam hath been reversed, and mighty throne hath fallen."
Since Baha’u’llah foresaw the day when the actions of the shia mullah has “abased” the people of Iran leading to the fall and “the standard of Islam” in the eyes of the people, to the extent that these days the average conversation about religion and Islam amongst the young and the educated leads to these days to outright disgust and rejection. Iranians are sick of lies and the religious hypocricy they daily witness in the name of Islam.
I sincerely believe that the people of the world are spiritually straved, longing and reaching for meaning in their lives. That each perso has to take and experience that search and journey.
As For Iran, I do believe that One day The Bahai Faith will be recognised in Iran; when Iranians will be free to choose and practice their faith freely. Whether The people of Iran will choose to accept Baha’u’llah and his teachings as The Answer will depend on an absolutely free and unfettered personal search and investigation.
I also believe the inevitible Mullahs’/Azali/Bayani Nightmare will come to pass, as the people of Iran will soon give recognition to the Bahais for their longstanding and steadfast stand on Principle and Belief against the brutal persecution of the backward and corrupt Shia establishment, along with the machinations of Azali/Bayanis during the life of Baha’u’llah and Abdul-Baha."
This a clear, albeit equivocal, statement in the affirmative by a Haifan Baha'i that indeed their aim is completely political - with any humanitarian aspect of their current propaganda in the West about purported human rights violations being completely tangential to their ultimate aim of wishing and working towards taking raw power - and so that any participation by them in an opposition capacity to the Islamic republic is designed purely and specifically for the ultimate aim of replacing the mullah's theocracy with their own Stalinist brand of religious theocracy.
This is what all the signatorees of the various letter campaigns posted here are ultimately supporting, probably unbeknownst to even themselves: the replacement of the mullahs theocratic dictatorship with a stalinist totalitarian Baha'i Theocratic nightmare-state in Iran.
Well I don't believe any religion should replace Islam in Iran. I think it should be a secular democracy. I also think all faiths lead to God but I disagree with Garyarm. I think all religions are still relevant and still will lead to God.
> "Do you believe that Baha'ism should replace the national religion in > Iran, and is your organization attempting to replace the mullah's > theocracy with a Baha'i theocracy?"
> Faryarm responds:
> "Bahais Believe that, Islam has run its course; its teachings were > never meant for the 20 and 21st centuries; and as Baha’u’llah > cautioned:
> "O people of the Koran," Bahá'u'lláh, addressing the combined forces > of Sunni and Shi'ih Islám, significantly affirms, "Verily the Prophet > Of God, Muhammad, sheddeth tears at the sight of your cruelty. Ye have > assuredly followed your evil and corrupt desires, and turned away your > face from the light of guidance. Erelong will ye witness the result of > your deeds: for the Lord. My God, lieth in wait and is watchful of > your behaviour ... O concourse of Muslim divines! By your deeds the > exalted station of the people hath been abased, the standard of Islam > hath been reversed, and mighty throne hath fallen."
> Since Baha’u’llah foresaw the day when the actions of the shia mullah > has “abased” the people of Iran leading to the fall and “the standard > of Islam” in the eyes of the people, to the extent that these days > the average conversation about religion and Islam amongst the young > and the educated leads to these days to outright disgust and > rejection. Iranians are sick of lies and the religious hypocricy they > daily witness in the name of Islam.
> I sincerely believe that the people of the world are spiritually > straved, longing and reaching for meaning in their lives. That each > perso has to take and experience that search and journey.
> As For Iran, I do believe that One day The Bahai Faith will be > recognised in Iran; when Iranians will be free to choose and practice > their faith freely. Whether The people of Iran will choose to accept > Baha’u’llah and his teachings as The Answer will depend on an > absolutely free and unfettered personal search and investigation.
> I also believe the inevitible Mullahs’/Azali/Bayani Nightmare will > come to pass, as the people of Iran will soon give recognition to the > Bahais for their longstanding and steadfast stand on Principle and > Belief against the brutal persecution of the backward and corrupt Shia > establishment, along with the machinations of Azali/Bayanis during the > life of Baha’u’llah and Abdul-Baha."
> This a clear, albeit equivocal, statement in the affirmative by a > Haifan Baha'i that indeed their aim is completely political - with any > humanitarian aspect of their current propaganda in the West about > purported human rights violations being completely tangential to their > ultimate aim of wishing and working towards taking raw power - and so > that any participation by them in an opposition capacity to the > Islamic republic is designed purely and specifically for the ultimate > aim of replacing the mullah's theocracy with their own Stalinist brand > of religious theocracy.
> This is what all the signatorees of the various letter campaigns > posted here are ultimately supporting, probably unbeknownst to even > themselves: the replacement of the mullahs theocratic dictatorship > with a stalinist totalitarian Baha'i Theocratic nightmare-state in > Iran.
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Subject: Re: Filthy Muslimes publically flog screaming 17 year old girl
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Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:16:51 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Filthy Muslimes publically flog screaming 17 year old girl
Pat Kohli, or Patrick Kohli, is a member of the Haifan Baha'i Faith [1] who makes regular contributions to the USENET newsgroup talk.religion.bahai[2]. He is a computer programmer who has worked on software for various projects, including military systems.
Contents [hide] 1 Background 2 Articles and Resources 2.1 Related SourceWatch Articles 2.2 References 2.3 External Articles
[edit]Background He "is a computer scientist assigned to 4.5.3.3. He works for PMA-231 as the Open Architecture (OA) IPT lead, in the OA/FORCEnet IPT of the Network Centric Warfare IPT. Prior to this he worked at Saint Inigoes for 4.5 and developed a prototype next generation flight data recorder, using COTS components, to meet incident reporting, maintenance and FOQA needs. Pat also supported the old PMA-282 which did weapon control systems for guided missiles. Pat has an MS in computer Information Systems from Florida Tech." [3]
"Pat Kohli, NCW Open Architecture Lead, demonstrated how the E-2/C-2 program office (PMA-231) is continuously evaluating and implementing software modernization to facilitate transition of the existing E-2 operational flight program to an environment using commercially available systems. Venlet said, "The Naval Aviation Enterprise has embraced open architecture as a fundamental building block of weapon system development from its very inception. Our government/industry teams continue to leverage these open system strategies and concepts in achieving reduction in overall development cycle times and delivering increased system capabilities to the Fleet faster and cheaper. The advantages of integrating open architecture designs and contracting strategies are measurable and pronounced as is substantiated by our E-2D Advanced Hawkeye and P-8 Multi-Mission Aircraft development programs. The key to continued success will be maintaining the close partnership with industry experts, as we provide the right capabilities, at the right time and right cost to the joint warfighter."The E-2 Hawkeye team has been representing and directly supporting Venlet's executive office - the aviation domain lead for open architecture initiatives - since June 2004, because of its role as a battle management command and control platform and a central network communications node in aviation. E-2 Program Manager Capt. Randy Mahrsaid, "Today's evolving E-2 open architecture model paves the way for a more mature system to be used by the E-2D prior to it taking its place in the fleet."[3]
Pat Kohli has maintained a consistent web presence since the late 1990s, particularly on USENET, addressing both external critics and dissenters within the Haifan Baha'i Faith tradition to which he belongs [5]. In 1998, he voted against the creation of the USENET group, talk.religion.bahai, as an un-moderated discussion forum for issues relating to the Baha'i faith [4]. Official discussion regarding the creation of this group may also be found at: [6]. He posts under the handles Mr All Bad and All_Bad [5]
[edit]Articles and Resources [edit]Related SourceWatch Articles PMA Group [edit]References ↑ Letter from Assistant Secretary, Kishan Manocha, on Behalf of National Spiritual Assembly of the Baha'is of the United Kingdom [1], dated October 8, 2002, Accessed 17 February, 2009. ↑ Discussion Archive of USENET group Talk.Religion.Baha'i, [2], Accessed February 17, 2009 ↑ 3.0 3.1 Drema Ballengee-Grunst, "Assistant SecNav visits NAVAIR T&E laboratory", November 10, 2005. ↑ Record of votes cast regarding the creation of the USENET group, talk.religion.bahai,[3], Accessed February 17, 2009. ↑ Excerpt from USENET group talk.religion.bahai,[4], Accessed February 17, 2009. [edit]External Articles
> On Apr 6, 9:36 am, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Well I don't believe any religion should replace Islam in Iran. I think >> it >> should be a secular democracy.
> That is the point, and it is definitely not what these globalist New > World Order freaks are out to attain.
I agree they want a one world religion not a secular world which is what I would prefer. (I mean I want governments to be secular I don't want to ban religions)
>>I also think all faiths lead to God but I >> disagree with Garyarm. I think all religions are still relevant and still >> will lead to God.
> Yes, all *valid*, revealed Traditional Religions will lead to Spirit.
Yeah my view is that there is no one way to view God or one name for God. When a Muslim prays to Allah, he or she is praying to God, when a Christian prays to Jesus (I am still not sure if he existed or not) he or she is praying to God etc. We do not need to end any valid religions just because a new prophet may or may not have come.
On Apr 6, 11:31 am, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree they want a one world religion not a secular world which is what I > would prefer. (I mean I want governments to be secular I don't want to ban > religions)
But that is _precisely_ the agenda of the globalist elite, they want to bring about One Man-Made Religion and do away with all the others -- ergo Haifan Baha'ism. Also read this book, http://www.sophiaperennis.com/shop/perennis/64 False Dawn The United Religions Initiative, Globalism, and the Quest for a One- World Religion
"Description:
The interfaith movement, which began with the 1893 World's Parliament of Religions in Chicago, has grown worldwide. Although this movement has been largely unknown to the public, it now provides a spiritual face for globalization, the economic and political forces leading us all from nationalism to 'One World'. The most ambitious organization in today's interfaith movement is the United Religions Initiative (URI), founded by William Swing, the Episcopal Bishop of California. Investigative reporter Lee Penn, a Catholic ex-Marxist, exhaustively documents the history and beliefs of the URI and its New Age and globalist allies, the vested interests that support these movements, and the direction they appear to be taking.
The interfaith movement is no longer merely the province of a coterie of little-heeded religious idealists with grandiose visions. The URI's proponents have ranged from billionaire George Soros to President George W. Bush, from the far-right Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the liberal Catholic theologian Hans Kung, and from the Dalai Lama to the leaders of government-approved Protestant churches in the People's Republic of China. The interfaith movement, including the URI, is being promoted by globalist and New Age reformers who favor erosion of national sovereignty, marginalization of traditional religions, establishment of 'global governance', and creation of a new, Earth-based 'global spirituality'—in effect, a one-world religion. Therefore, the URI and the interfaith movement are poised to become the spiritual foundation of the New World Order: the 'new civilization' now proposed by Mikhail Gorbachev, the last leader of the Soviet Union.
In The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times, French metaphysician René Guénon spoke of the 'anti-tradition' (the forces of materialism and secular humanism) finally giving way to the 'counter- tradition' (the satanic inversion of true spirituality), leading to the regime of Antichrist. The 'anti-tradition' weakens and dissolves traditional spiritualities, after which the 'counter-tradition' sets up a counterfeit in their place. Since Guénon's time, as is well known, anti-traditional forces have greatly advanced worldwide. It is less well-known that counter-traditional movements have also made great strides, and now stand closer to the centers of global political and religious power than ever before. The 'counter-tradition' is making inroads on the political and cultural Right, as much as it is doing on the Left. False Dawn painstakingly documents these trends, and speculates on their future development. In so doing, the author takes investigative reporting to the threshold of prophecy, and gives us a stunningly plausible picture of the global religious landscape of the 21st century. This extraordinary project is the literary equivalent of turning over a flat rock. There is much to be seen and learned here—all of it unsettling, disquieting, occasionally downright scary.
When a bishop of a Christian church happily worships alongside a Wiccan invoking other gods, something has gone horribly wrong. In False Dawn, Lee Penn has produced a comprehensive and critical history of the United Religions Initiative. This book sounds a clear warning: Anyone who makes theological truth subservient to utopianism denigrates all religions. Douglas LeBlanc, editor, GetReligion.org"
> Yeah my view is that there is no one way to view God or one name for God. > When a Muslim prays to Allah, he or she is praying to God, when a Christian > prays to Jesus (I am still not sure if he existed or not) he or she is > praying to God etc. We do not need to end any valid religions just because a > new prophet may or may not have come.
Agreed, but that is precisely what the Haifan Bahaim are out to do, especially when they unmask themselves when saying this like,
"Bahais Believe that, Islam has run its course; its teachings were never meant for the 20 and 21st centuries; and as Baha’u’llah cautioned:
"O people of the Koran," Bahá'u'lláh, addressing the combined forces of Sunni and Shi'ih Islám, significantly affirms, "Verily the Prophet Of God, Muhammad, sheddeth tears at the sight of your cruelty. Ye have assuredly followed your evil and corrupt desires, and turned away your face from the light of guidance. Erelong will ye witness the result of your deeds: for the Lord. My God, lieth in wait and is watchful of your behaviour ... O concourse of Muslim divines! By your deeds the exalted station of the people hath been abased, the standard of Islam hath been reversed, and mighty throne hath fallen."
Since Baha’u’llah foresaw the day when the actions of the shia mullah has “abased” the people of Iran leading to the fall and “the standard of Islam” in the eyes of the people, to the extent that these days the average conversation about religion and Islam amongst the young and the educated leads to these days to outright disgust and rejection. Iranians are sick of lies and the religious hypocricy they daily witness in the name of Islam.
I sincerely believe that the people of the world are spiritually straved, longing and reaching for meaning in their lives. That each perso has to take and experience that search and journey.
As For Iran, I do believe that One day The Bahai Faith will be recognised in Iran; when Iranians will be free to choose and practice their faith freely. Whether The people of Iran will choose to accept Baha’u’llah and his teachings as The Answer will depend on an absolutely free and unfettered personal search and investigation.
I also believe the inevitible Mullahs’/Azali/Bayani Nightmare will come to pass, as the people of Iran will soon give recognition to the Bahais for their longstanding and steadfast stand on Principle and Belief against the brutal persecution of the backward and corrupt Shia establishment, along with the machinations of Azali/Bayanis during the life of Baha’u’llah and Abdul-Baha."
> On Apr 6, 11:31 am, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree they want a one world religion not a secular world which is what >> I >> would prefer. (I mean I want governments to be secular I don't want to >> ban >> religions)
> But that is _precisely_ the agenda of the globalist elite, they want > to bring about One Man-Made Religion and do away with all the others > -- ergo Haifan Baha'ism. Also read this book, > http://www.sophiaperennis.com/shop/perennis/64 > False Dawn > The United Religions Initiative, Globalism, and the Quest for a One- > World Religion
> "Description:
> The interfaith movement, which began with the 1893 World's Parliament > of Religions in Chicago, has grown worldwide. Although this movement > has been largely unknown to the public, it now provides a spiritual > face for globalization, the economic and political forces leading us > all from nationalism to 'One World'. The most ambitious organization > in today's interfaith movement is the United Religions Initiative > (URI), founded by William Swing, the Episcopal Bishop of California. > Investigative reporter Lee Penn, a Catholic ex-Marxist, exhaustively > documents the history and beliefs of the URI and its New Age and > globalist allies, the vested interests that support these movements, > and the direction they appear to be taking.
> The interfaith movement is no longer merely the province of a coterie > of little-heeded religious idealists with grandiose visions. The URI's > proponents have ranged from billionaire George Soros to President > George W. Bush, from the far-right Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the liberal > Catholic theologian Hans Kung, and from the Dalai Lama to the leaders > of government-approved Protestant churches in the People's Republic of > China. The interfaith movement, including the URI, is being promoted > by globalist and New Age reformers who favor erosion of national > sovereignty, marginalization of traditional religions, establishment > of 'global governance', and creation of a new, Earth-based 'global > spirituality'—in effect, a one-world religion. Therefore, the URI and > the interfaith movement are poised to become the spiritual foundation > of the New World Order: the 'new civilization' now proposed by Mikhail > Gorbachev, the last leader of the Soviet Union.
> In The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times, French > metaphysician René Guénon spoke of the 'anti-tradition' (the forces of > materialism and secular humanism) finally giving way to the 'counter- > tradition' (the satanic inversion of true spirituality), leading to > the regime of Antichrist. The 'anti-tradition' weakens and dissolves > traditional spiritualities, after which the 'counter-tradition' sets > up a counterfeit in their place. Since Guénon's time, as is well > known, anti-traditional forces have greatly advanced worldwide. It is > less well-known that counter-traditional movements have also made > great strides, and now stand closer to the centers of global political > and religious power than ever before. The 'counter-tradition' is > making inroads on the political and cultural Right, as much as it is > doing on the Left. False Dawn painstakingly documents these trends, > and speculates on their future development. In so doing, the author > takes investigative reporting to the threshold of prophecy, and gives > us a stunningly plausible picture of the global religious landscape of > the 21st century. This extraordinary project is the literary > equivalent of turning over a flat rock. There is much to be seen and > learned here—all of it unsettling, disquieting, occasionally downright > scary.
> When a bishop of a Christian church happily worships alongside a > Wiccan invoking other gods, something has gone horribly wrong. In > False Dawn, Lee Penn has produced a comprehensive and critical history > of the United Religions Initiative. This book sounds a clear warning: > Anyone who makes theological truth subservient to utopianism > denigrates all religions. > Douglas LeBlanc, editor, GetReligion.org"
I don't think there is anything wrong with wiccans and Christians tolerating each other. But I do find something wrong with that when Christians are forced to practice this one world religion.
>> Yeah my view is that there is no one way to view God or one name for God. >> When a Muslim prays to Allah, he or she is praying to God, when a >> Christian >> prays to Jesus (I am still not sure if he existed or not) he or she is >> praying to God etc. We do not need to end any valid religions just >> because a >> new prophet may or may not have come.
> Agreed, but that is precisely what the Haifan Bahaim are out to do, > especially when they unmask themselves when saying this like,
Yeah I think the one world religion will have something to do with "Gia" and that side of environmentalism. They do unmask themselves though. One of the things that drew me to the Bahai faith was their view that all faith's lead to God. But now I realise they want everyone to convert to the Bahai faith. I still support the religious right of bahai's but I also support the religious right of orthodox bahai's and followers of the Bab and I do not agree with that guys statement one bit.
> "Bahais Believe that, Islam has run its course; its teachings were > never meant for the 20 and 21st centuries; and as Baha’u’llah > cautioned:
> "O people of the Koran," Bahá'u'lláh, addressing the combined forces > of Sunni and Shi'ih Islám, significantly affirms, "Verily the Prophet > Of God, Muhammad, sheddeth tears at the sight of your cruelty. Ye > have > assuredly followed your evil and corrupt desires, and turned away > your > face from the light of guidance. Erelong will ye witness the result > of > your deeds: for the Lord. My God, lieth in wait and is watchful of > your behaviour ... O concourse of Muslim divines! By your deeds the > exalted station of the people hath been abased, the standard of Islam > hath been reversed, and mighty throne hath fallen."
> Since Baha’u’llah foresaw the day when the actions of the shia > mullah > has “abased” the people of Iran leading to the fall and “the standard > of Islam” in the eyes of the people, to the extent that these days > the average conversation about religion and Islam amongst the young > and the educated leads to these days to outright disgust and > rejection. Iranians are sick of lies and the religious hypocricy they > daily witness in the name of Islam.
> I sincerely believe that the people of the world are spiritually > straved, longing and reaching for meaning in their lives. That each > perso has to take and experience that search and journey.
> As For Iran, I do believe that One day The Bahai Faith will be > recognised in Iran; when Iranians will be free to choose and practice > their faith freely. Whether The people of Iran will choose to accept > Baha’u’llah and his teachings as The Answer will depend on an > absolutely free and unfettered personal search and investigation.
> I also believe the inevitible Mullahs’/Azali/Bayani Nightmare will > come to pass, as the people of Iran will soon give recognition to > the > Bahais for their longstanding and steadfast stand on Principle and > Belief against the brutal persecution of the backward and corrupt > Shia > establishment, along with the machinations of Azali/Bayanis during > the > life of Baha’u’llah and Abdul-Baha."
>>> I agree they want a one world religion not a secular world which is what >>> I >>> would prefer. (I mean I want governments to be secular I don't want to >>> ban >>> religions)
>> But that is _precisely_ the agenda of the globalist elite, they want >> to bring about One Man-Made Religion and do away with all the others >> -- ergo Haifan Baha'ism. Also read this book,
I forgot to reply to this. the one world religion might be the bahai faith. But I would like to know how they will force people like you to change what they sincerely believe in their hearts. Its the whole talk of a new world order and global government that I don't trust.
>> False Dawn >> The United Religions Initiative, Globalism, and the Quest for a One- >> World Religion
>> "Description:
>> The interfaith movement, which began with the 1893 World's Parliament >> of Religions in Chicago, has grown worldwide. Although this movement >> has been largely unknown to the public, it now provides a spiritual >> face for globalization, the economic and political forces leading us >> all from nationalism to 'One World'. The most ambitious organization >> in today's interfaith movement is the United Religions Initiative >> (URI), founded by William Swing, the Episcopal Bishop of California. >> Investigative reporter Lee Penn, a Catholic ex-Marxist, exhaustively >> documents the history and beliefs of the URI and its New Age and >> globalist allies, the vested interests that support these movements, >> and the direction they appear to be taking.
>> The interfaith movement is no longer merely the province of a coterie >> of little-heeded religious idealists with grandiose visions. The URI's >> proponents have ranged from billionaire George Soros to President >> George W. Bush, from the far-right Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the liberal >> Catholic theologian Hans Kung, and from the Dalai Lama to the leaders >> of government-approved Protestant churches in the People's Republic of >> China. The interfaith movement, including the URI, is being promoted >> by globalist and New Age reformers who favor erosion of national >> sovereignty, marginalization of traditional religions, establishment >> of 'global governance', and creation of a new, Earth-based 'global >> spirituality'—in effect, a one-world religion. Therefore, the URI and >> the interfaith movement are poised to become the spiritual foundation >> of the New World Order: the 'new civilization' now proposed by Mikhail >> Gorbachev, the last leader of the Soviet Union.
>> In The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times, French >> metaphysician René Guénon spoke of the 'anti-tradition' (the forces of >> materialism and secular humanism) finally giving way to the 'counter- >> tradition' (the satanic inversion of true spirituality), leading to >> the regime of Antichrist. The 'anti-tradition' weakens and dissolves >> traditional spiritualities, after which the 'counter-tradition' sets >> up a counterfeit in their place. Since Guénon's time, as is well >> known, anti-traditional forces have greatly advanced worldwide. It is >> less well-known that counter-traditional movements have also made >> great strides, and now stand closer to the centers of global political >> and religious power than ever before. The 'counter-tradition' is >> making inroads on the political and cultural Right, as much as it is >> doing on the Left. False Dawn painstakingly documents these trends, >> and speculates on their future development. In so doing, the author >> takes investigative reporting to the threshold of prophecy, and gives >> us a stunningly plausible picture of the global religious landscape of >> the 21st century. This extraordinary project is the literary >> equivalent of turning over a flat rock. There is much to be seen and >> learned here—all of it unsettling, disquieting, occasionally downright >> scary.
>> When a bishop of a Christian church happily worships alongside a >> Wiccan invoking other gods, something has gone horribly wrong. In >> False Dawn, Lee Penn has produced a comprehensive and critical history >> of the United Religions Initiative. This book sounds a clear warning: >> Anyone who makes theological truth subservient to utopianism >> denigrates all religions. >> Douglas LeBlanc, editor, GetReligion.org"
> I don't think there is anything wrong with wiccans and Christians > tolerating each other. But I do find something wrong with that when > Christians are forced to practice this one world religion.
>>> Yeah my view is that there is no one way to view God or one name for >>> God. >>> When a Muslim prays to Allah, he or she is praying to God, when a >>> Christian >>> prays to Jesus (I am still not sure if he existed or not) he or she is >>> praying to God etc. We do not need to end any valid religions just >>> because a >>> new prophet may or may not have come.
>> Agreed, but that is precisely what the Haifan Bahaim are out to do, >> especially when they unmask themselves when saying this like,
> Yeah I think the one world religion will have something to do with "Gia" > and that side of environmentalism. They do unmask themselves though. One > of the things that drew me to the Bahai faith was their view that all > faith's lead to God. But now I realise they want everyone to convert to > the Bahai faith. I still support the religious right of bahai's but I also > support the religious right of orthodox bahai's and followers of the Bab > and I do not agree with that guys statement one bit.
>> "Bahais Believe that, Islam has run its course; its teachings were >> never meant for the 20 and 21st centuries; and as Baha’u’llah >> cautioned:
>> "O people of the Koran," Bahá'u'lláh, addressing the combined forces >> of Sunni and Shi'ih Islám, significantly affirms, "Verily the Prophet >> Of God, Muhammad, sheddeth tears at the sight of your cruelty. Ye >> have >> assuredly followed your evil and corrupt desires, and turned away >> your >> face from the light of guidance. Erelong will ye witness the result >> of >> your deeds: for the Lord. My God, lieth in wait and is watchful of >> your behaviour ... O concourse of Muslim divines! By your deeds the >> exalted station of the people hath been abased, the standard of Islam >> hath been reversed, and mighty throne hath fallen."
>> Since Baha’u’llah foresaw the day when the actions of the shia >> mullah >> has “abased” the people of Iran leading to the fall and “the standard >> of Islam” in the eyes of the people, to the extent that these days >> the average conversation about religion and Islam amongst the young >> and the educated leads to these days to outright disgust and >> rejection. Iranians are sick of lies and the religious hypocricy they >> daily witness in the name of Islam.
>> I sincerely believe that the people of the world are spiritually >> straved, longing and reaching for meaning in their lives. That each >> perso has to take and experience that search and journey.
>> As For Iran, I do believe that One day The Bahai Faith will be >> recognised in Iran; when Iranians will be free to choose and practice >> their faith freely. Whether The people of Iran will choose to accept >> Baha’u’llah and his teachings as The Answer will depend on an >> absolutely free and unfettered personal search and investigation.
>> I also believe the inevitible Mullahs’/Azali/Bayani Nightmare will >> come to pass, as the people of Iran will soon give recognition to >> the >> Bahais for their longstanding and steadfast stand on Principle and >> Belief against the brutal persecution of the backward and corrupt >> Shia >> establishment, along with the machinations of Azali/Bayanis during >> the >> life of Baha’u’llah and Abdul-Baha."
On Apr 6, 8:25 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> -- ergo Haifan Baha'ism. Also read this book,
> I forgot to reply to this. the one world religion might be the bahai faith. > But I would like to know how they will force people like you to change what > they sincerely believe in their hearts.
The same way Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc, forced people.
> On Apr 6, 8:25 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> -- ergo Haifan Baha'ism. Also read this book,
>> I forgot to reply to this. the one world religion might be the bahai >> faith. >> But I would like to know how they will force people like you to change >> what >> they sincerely believe in their hearts.
> The same way Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc, forced people.
> W
Yeah banning churches, sending people to concentration camps etc
> On Apr 7, 12:39 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yeah banning churches, sending people to concentration camps etc
> And this is precisely what a Baha'i Theocratic State would do as well.
> W
Well if that's true I oppose it. I don't want any religion to be in government. Look at how Saudi Arabia etc turned out. As I have said before I think governments need to be secular but like America's founding fathers I also believe in religious freedom.
> "Do you believe that Baha'ism should replace the national religion in > Iran, and is your organization attempting to replace the mullah's > theocracy with a Baha'i theocracy?"
> Faryarm responds:
> "Bahais Believe that, Islam has run its course; its teachings were > never meant for the 20 and 21st centuries; and as Baha’u’llah > cautioned:
> "O people of the Koran," Bahá'u'lláh, addressing the combined forces > of Sunni and Shi'ih Islám, significantly affirms, "Verily the Prophet > Of God, Muhammad, sheddeth tears at the sight of your cruelty. Ye have > assuredly followed your evil and corrupt desires, and turned away your > face from the light of guidance. Erelong will ye witness the result of > your deeds: for the Lord. My God, lieth in wait and is watchful of > your behaviour ... O concourse of Muslim divines! By your deeds the > exalted station of the people hath been abased, the standard of Islam > hath been reversed, and mighty throne hath fallen."
> Since Baha’u’llah foresaw the day when the actions of the shia mullah > has “abased” the people of Iran leading to the fall and “the standard > of Islam” in the eyes of the people, to the extent that these days > the average conversation about religion and Islam amongst the young > and the educated leads to these days to outright disgust and > rejection. Iranians are sick of lies and the religious hypocricy they > daily witness in the name of Islam.
> I sincerely believe that the people of the world are spiritually > straved, longing and reaching for meaning in their lives. That each > perso has to take and experience that search and journey.
> As For Iran, I do believe that One day The Bahai Faith will be > recognised in Iran; when Iranians will be free to choose and practice > their faith freely. Whether The people of Iran will choose to accept > Baha’u’llah and his teachings as The Answer will depend on an > absolutely free and unfettered personal search and investigation.
> I also believe the inevitible Mullahs’/Azali/Bayani Nightmare will > come to pass, as the people of Iran will soon give recognition to the > Bahais for their longstanding and steadfast stand on Principle and > Belief against the brutal persecution of the backward and corrupt Shia > establishment, along with the machinations of Azali/Bayanis during the > life of Baha’u’llah and Abdul-Baha."
> This a clear, albeit equivocal, statement in the affirmative by a > Haifan Baha'i that indeed their aim is completely political - with any > humanitarian aspect of their current propaganda in the West about > purported human rights violations being completely tangential to their > ultimate aim of wishing and working towards taking raw power - and so > that any participation by them in an opposition capacity to the > Islamic republic is designed purely and specifically for the ultimate > aim of replacing the mullah's theocracy with their own Stalinist brand > of religious theocracy.
> This is what all the signatorees of the various letter campaigns > posted here are ultimately supporting, probably unbeknownst to even > themselves: the replacement of the mullahs theocratic dictatorship > with a stalinist totalitarian Baha'i Theocratic nightmare-state in > Iran.
> "Do you believe that Baha'ism should replace the national religion in > Iran, and is your organization attempting to replace the mullah's > theocracy with a Baha'i theocracy?"
> Faryarm responds:
> "Bahais Believe that, Islam has run its course; its teachings were > never meant for the 20 and 21st centuries; and as Baha’u’llah > cautioned:
> "O people of the Koran," Bahá'u'lláh, addressing the combined forces > of Sunni and Shi'ih Islám, significantly affirms, "Verily the Prophet > Of God, Muhammad, sheddeth tears at the sight of your cruelty. Ye have > assuredly followed your evil and corrupt desires, and turned away your > face from the light of guidance. Erelong will ye witness the result of > your deeds: for the Lord. My God, lieth in wait and is watchful of > your behaviour ... O concourse of Muslim divines! By your deeds the > exalted station of the people hath been abased, the standard of Islam > hath been reversed, and mighty throne hath fallen."
> Since Baha’u’llah foresaw the day when the actions of the shia mullah > has “abased” the people of Iran leading to the fall and “the standard > of Islam” in the eyes of the people, to the extent that these days > the average conversation about religion and Islam amongst the young > and the educated leads to these days to outright disgust and > rejection. Iranians are sick of lies and the religious hypocricy they > daily witness in the name of Islam.
> I sincerely believe that the people of the world are spiritually > straved, longing and reaching for meaning in their lives. That each > perso has to take and experience that search and journey.
> As For Iran, I do believe that One day The Bahai Faith will be > recognised in Iran; when Iranians will be free to choose and practice > their faith freely. Whether The people of Iran will choose to accept > Baha’u’llah and his teachings as The Answer will depend on an > absolutely free and unfettered personal search and investigation.
> I also believe the inevitible Mullahs’/Azali/Bayani Nightmare will > come to pass, as the people of Iran will soon give recognition to the > Bahais for their longstanding and steadfast stand on Principle and > Belief against the brutal persecution of the backward and corrupt Shia > establishment, along with the machinations of Azali/Bayanis during the > life of Baha’u’llah and Abdul-Baha."
> This a clear, albeit equivocal, statement in the affirmative by a > Haifan Baha'i that indeed their aim is completely political - with any > humanitarian aspect of their current propaganda in the West about > purported human rights violations being completely tangential to their > ultimate aim of wishing and working towards taking raw power - and so > that any participation by them in an opposition capacity to the > Islamic republic is designed purely and specifically for the ultimate > aim of replacing the mullah's theocracy with their own Stalinist brand > of religious theocracy.
> This is what all the signatorees of the various letter campaigns > posted here are ultimately supporting, probably unbeknownst to even > themselves: the replacement of the mullahs theocratic dictatorship > with a stalinist totalitarian Baha'i Theocratic nightmare-state in > Iran.
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HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:09:00 +0900
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> HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your > mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the > time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities > at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to > a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an > indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............ > Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
> ** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan ** > http://www.link.net > Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd > Fastlink, Jordan > moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child > molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
> ** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan ** > http://www.link.net > Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd > Fastlink, Jordan > moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child > molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
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On 9 Apr, 18:09, "Yaako Warrior from AUZ, Korea, Germany, RSA, USA, Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal stained moslems"
<Mozlems_fuck_goats_like_false_prophet_mohamm...@pislam.shiit> wrote: > Yaako Warrior from AUZ, Korea , Germany, RSA, USA, Sweden, Hong Kong, > Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal
> stained moslems. wrote: > > Yaako Warrior from AUZ, Korea , Germany, RSA, USA, Sweden, Hong Kong, > > Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal > > stained moslems. wrote: > >>http://www.iranian.com/main/blog/ahang-rabbani/baha-iran-and-contact-...
> >> - All Bad
> > HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your > > mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the > > time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities > > at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to > > a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an > > indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............ > > Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
> > ** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan ** > >http://www.link.net > > Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd > > Fastlink, Jordan > > moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child > > molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
> "Do you believe that Baha'ism should replace the national religion in > Iran, and is your organization attempting to replace the mullah's > theocracy with a Baha'i theocracy?"
> Faryarm responds:
> "Bahais Believe that, Islam has run its course; its teachings were > never meant for the 20 and 21st centuries; and as Baha’u’llah > cautioned:
> "O people of the Koran," Bahá'u'lláh, addressing the combined forces > of Sunni and Shi'ih Islám, significantly affirms, "Verily the Prophet > Of God, Muhammad, sheddeth tears at the sight of your cruelty. Ye have > assuredly followed your evil and corrupt desires, and turned away your > face from the light of guidance. Erelong will ye witness the result of > your deeds: for the Lord. My God, lieth in wait and is watchful of > your behaviour ... O concourse of Muslim divines! By your deeds the > exalted station of the people hath been abased, the standard of Islam > hath been reversed, and mighty throne hath fallen."
> Since Baha’u’llah foresaw the day when the actions of the shia mullah > has “abased” the people of Iran leading to the fall and “the standard > of Islam” in the eyes of the people, to the extent that these days > the average conversation about religion and Islam amongst the young > and the educated leads to these days to outright disgust and > rejection. Iranians are sick of lies and the religious hypocricy they > daily witness in the name of Islam.
> I sincerely believe that the people of the world are spiritually > straved, longing and reaching for meaning in their lives. That each > perso has to take and experience that search and journey.
> As For Iran, I do believe that One day The Bahai Faith will be > recognised in Iran; when Iranians will be free to choose and practice > their faith freely. Whether The people of Iran will choose to accept > Baha’u’llah and his teachings as The Answer will depend on an > absolutely free and unfettered personal search and investigation.
> I also believe the inevitible Mullahs’/Azali/Bayani Nightmare will > come to pass, as the people of Iran will soon give recognition to the > Bahais for their longstanding and steadfast stand on Principle and > Belief against the brutal persecution of the backward and corrupt Shia > establishment, along with the machinations of Azali/Bayanis during the > life of Baha’u’llah and Abdul-Baha."
> This a clear, albeit equivocal, statement in the affirmative by a > Haifan Baha'i that indeed their aim is completely political - with any > humanitarian aspect of their current propaganda in the West about > purported human rights violations being completely tangential to their > ultimate aim of wishing and working towards taking raw power - and so > that any participation by them in an opposition capacity to the > Islamic republic is designed purely and specifically for the ultimate > aim of replacing the mullah's theocracy with their own Stalinist brand > of religious theocracy.
> This is what all the signatorees of the various letter campaigns > posted here are ultimately supporting, probably unbeknownst to even > themselves: the replacement of the mullahs theocratic dictatorship > with a stalinist totalitarian Baha'i Theocratic nightmare-state in > Iran.
> "Do you believe that Baha'ism should replace the national religion in > Iran, and is your organization attempting to replace the mullah's > theocracy with a Baha'i theocracy?"
> Faryarm responds:
> "Bahais Believe that, Islam has run its course; its teachings were > never meant for the 20 and 21st centuries; and as Baha’u’llah > cautioned:
> "O people of the Koran," Bahá'u'lláh, addressing the combined forces > of Sunni and Shi'ih Islám, significantly affirms, "Verily the Prophet > Of God, Muhammad, sheddeth tears at the sight of your cruelty. Ye have > assuredly followed your evil and corrupt desires, and turned away your > face from the light of guidance. Erelong will ye witness the result of > your deeds: for the Lord. My God, lieth in wait and is watchful of > your behaviour ... O concourse of Muslim divines! By your deeds the > exalted station of the people hath been abased, the standard of Islam > hath been reversed, and mighty throne hath fallen."
> Since Baha’u’llah foresaw the day when the actions of the shia mullah > has “abased” the people of Iran leading to the fall and “the standard > of Islam” in the eyes of the people, to the extent that these days > the average conversation about religion and Islam amongst the young > and the educated leads to these days to outright disgust and > rejection. Iranians are sick of lies and the religious hypocricy they > daily witness in the name of Islam.
> I sincerely believe that the people of the world are spiritually > straved, longing and reaching for meaning in their lives. That each > perso has to take and experience that search and journey.
> As For Iran, I do believe that One day The Bahai Faith will be > recognised in Iran; when Iranians will be free to choose and practice > their faith freely. Whether The people of Iran will choose to accept > Baha’u’llah and his teachings as The Answer will depend on an > absolutely free and unfettered personal search and investigation.
> I also believe the inevitible Mullahs’/Azali/Bayani Nightmare will > come to pass, as the people of Iran will soon give recognition to the > Bahais for their longstanding and steadfast stand on Principle and > Belief against the brutal persecution of the backward and corrupt Shia > establishment, along with the machinations of Azali/Bayanis during the > life of Baha’u’llah and Abdul-Baha."
> This a clear, albeit equivocal, statement in the affirmative by a > Haifan Baha'i that indeed their aim is completely political - with any > humanitarian aspect of their current propaganda in the West about > purported human rights violations being completely tangential to their > ultimate aim of wishing and working towards taking raw power - and so > that any participation by them in an opposition capacity to the > Islamic republic is designed purely and specifically for the ultimate > aim of replacing the mullah's theocracy with their own Stalinist brand > of religious theocracy.
> This is what all the signatorees of the various letter campaigns > posted here are ultimately supporting, probably unbeknownst to even > themselves: the replacement of the mullahs theocratic dictatorship > with a stalinist totalitarian Baha'i Theocratic nightmare-state in > Iran.
