recep <re...@haq.com.au> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
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> geee :))
>
> Casey... how many muslims have you seen rape and loot lately??
> i can give you heaps of proof of christians??? raping killing and
> looting.... Serbians (who had special centres set up to train soldiers to
> rape.. Funny isnt it casey?).. Russians (only Allah knows how many
innocent
> people murdered in the last few hundred years.. 87% of chechen population
> were martyred over the last 100 years of Russina rule as an example).. and
> lets not forget the the child killers the jews killing before the eyes of
> the world (no other proof needed)open your eyes ... How well do you know
> your history?? lets go to the crusades if you wish?? On the path of their
> destruction to the jerusalem all the killings and rapings they have done
...
> The Vatican last year apologised to the world for the destructive
behaviour
> of the crusades only after proof was found... mass graves of people killed
> on the path of their destruction On the other han salahaddin obviosuly was
a
> murderer trying to stop the crusaders while richard the lionheart was a
> great king... Bias bias bias as allways... I really dont know what your
> understanding of rape is but obviosly it changes according to who the act
is
> committed by. Please bring forward some proof as i have.
> yes Allah the allmighty asks us to fight in his path for peace and justice
> against evil ... It also is a historically proven fact that christians
were
> opressed by their own powers.. we even see movies about it. Robin Hood,
> Ivanhoe, brave heart.. you know? the middle ages (even before)where people
> were executed for not paying up taxes or who were drowned or burnt for
being
> satanic (the crucible).. and who ran to their rescue?? The muslims :))
> remember the last of the islamic Empires??The ottomans?? As soon as they
> crumbled the christian world virtually slaughtered one another. World war
I
> and II (more people died than in all wars fought in the last 1000 years).
> because france payed taxes so the ottomans would protect them against the
> germans..Itwas also islam that the polish payed taxes for the same reason.
> It was also islam which made peace in the balkans.as soon as the ottomans
> went down the mighty powers just came down with their centuries of
> vengance.. And the Jews ... Surpressed and taxed the hell out of by Europe
> moved themselves to the Islamic lands. Today they own the richest parts of
> Istanbul.. The armenians of the world cry of the anguish suffered by
> themselves for some recognition (and some easy money) however the
Armenians
> of Istanbul dont complain much either.. They also live in the wealthier
> suburbs of Istanbul. Dont you thin its ODD that the muslims surpressed
these
> people by letting them have the wealthy parts of a city that they fought
38
> times for?? Also Saint Sophia Church now known as Ayasofya Mosque (museum)
> was payed for with Gold after the capture of Istanbul (who would pay for
> something they have allready conquered?) Also you owe it to Sultan
Muhammed
> who closed the silk route in 1453 by emposing heavy taxes on european
> traders who brought their stolen wealth back from China. If that route
wasnt
> closed europeans would not have sailed the seas in search of the far east
> and accidentally bumped into America :)). theres something you should
thank
> us for. Ohh speaking of america.. the degeneration of Indians..slave
> labour.. And lets not forget the british and the centuries of brutality in
> the path of colonolisation, stealing wealth and borrowing free people and
> selling them a slaves ...we can go on and on and on. Also i would like to
> know who you are and what your tag is??
> if you are corageous enough...
> Casey wrote in message <3A39A49B...@intergate.ca>...
> >"news.chello.at" wrote:
> >>
> >> Absolutely wrong
> >>
> >> The following proof the intolerance of Islam:
> >
> >Sir, I do not know how well you understand English or Arabic, but I will
> >attempt to answer your "proofs" by using common sense (not even
> >bothering to refer to any text for help).
> >
> >I also do not know if you are Muslim or non-Muslim, but hope that you
> >will read and understand Islam better before spreading your opinions
> >about Islam.
> >
> >>
> >> Islam promises hell to non-Muslims 3:85, 4:56, 5:37, 5:72, 8:55,9:28,
> 15:2,
> >> 21:98-100, 22:19-22, :56-57, 25:17-19, 25:55, 29:53-55, 31:13,
> >> 66:9, 68:10-13, 72:14- 15,
> >
> >There is a distinction to be made between "tolerating" non-muslims, and
> >saying that it is okay to believe in other than the one God, and
> >practice the unfair and dangerous traditions of the Arabs before Islam.
> >To promise hell to the non-Muslims would not contradict any injunction
> >to tolerate them in this world.
> >
> >> Islam warms against mixing with non-Muslims 2:21, 3:28, 3:118, 5:51,
> 5:144,
> >> 9:7, 9:28, 58:23, 60:4.
> >
> >When did "mixing" with any particular group become a condition for
> >tolerance?
> >
> >> Islam calls on Muslims to wage war against non-Muslims 2:191, 2:193,
> 4:66,
> >> 4:84, 5:33, 8:12, 8:15-18, 8:39, 8:59-60, 8:65, 9:2-3, 9:5,9:14,
> >> 9:29, 9:39, 9:73, 9:111, 9:123, 25:52, 37:22-23, 47:4-5, 48:29, 69:30-
> 37.
> >
> >The condition always stated and implied has been to fight only those who
> >fight against you, and to return to peace when the other side offers
> >peace and they agree to either pay the protection money (i.e. tax) or
> >become Muslim.
> >
> >> Islam encourages the war against the non-Muslims by glorifying it
2:216,
> >> 9:41, 49:15, or by promising lust in paradise to the Shaheeds who die
in
> >> such a war 3:142, 3:157-158, 9:20--21.
> >
> >The ultimate test of whether someone has strong principles is whether he
> >or she is willing to stand up for his or her cause. The reward offered
> >is for those who die in battle, or become martyrs while striving to
> >establish and preserve the religion of Truth. These verses must be
> >considered in the historical context in which they were revealed. It
> >would be easy for me to describe the context to you in this reply, but
> >possibly more beneficial to you if you research this yourself (after
> >all, why would you believe what I tell you when you don't even know
> >me?).
> >
> >> In fact the whole koran is a license to kill, rape and loot the
property
> of
> >> nonmuslims. Study carefully. That is what the muslims did
> >> in history in all lands as a sacred duty. They killed looted and raped
> >
> >That is not what you will learn if you study carefully. That is what
> >you might conclude if you listen to CNN, and then skim through
> >translated texts for evidence to support what you already believe.
> >
> >Qassim
>
>
Anjum Jaleel wrote:
> "MerryChristmas" <Suns...@chello.at> wrote in message
> news:_zH_5.5077$AG3.4...@news.chello.at...
> > It possible that some Christian committed such crimes but the holly Bible
> > doesn't approve it and you never find a vers in the whole Bible which
> > indicates violence or killing in the name of God, while Quran does. The
> > terms of kill, burn, have sex with her (Nukah, inkahoo) which means (fuck)
> > and other terrible expressions appear in Quran hundreds maybe thousand of
> > times. In fact the whole koran is a license to kill, rape and loot the
> > property of non-Muslims. Study carefully. That is what the Muslims did in
> > history in all lands as a sacred duty. They killed looted and raped.Some
> > Muslims seem to be obsessed with the evil, they have these
> > self -destructive beliefs about holy wars and about killing .
> >
>
> http://www.geocities.com/alummah2000/ViolenceChristianityAndIslam.html
Qassim