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MerryChristmas

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Dec 16, 2000, 5:35:38 AM12/16/00
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It possible that some Christian committed such crimes but the holly Bible
doesn't approve it and you never find a vers in the whole Bible which
indicates violence or killing in the name of God, while Quran does. The
terms of kill, burn, have sex with her (Nukah, inkahoo) which means (fuck)
and other terrible expressions appear in Quran hundreds maybe thousand of
times. In fact the whole koran is a license to kill, rape and loot the
property of non-Muslims. Study carefully. That is what the Muslims did in
history in all lands as a sacred duty. They killed looted and raped.Some
Muslims seem to be obsessed with the evil, they have these
self -destructive beliefs about holy wars and about killing .

recep <re...@haq.com.au> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
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> geee :))
>
> Casey... how many muslims have you seen rape and loot lately??
> i can give you heaps of proof of christians??? raping killing and
> looting.... Serbians (who had special centres set up to train soldiers to
> rape.. Funny isnt it casey?).. Russians (only Allah knows how many
innocent
> people murdered in the last few hundred years.. 87% of chechen population
> were martyred over the last 100 years of Russina rule as an example).. and
> lets not forget the the child killers the jews killing before the eyes of
> the world (no other proof needed)open your eyes ... How well do you know
> your history?? lets go to the crusades if you wish?? On the path of their
> destruction to the jerusalem all the killings and rapings they have done
...
> The Vatican last year apologised to the world for the destructive
behaviour
> of the crusades only after proof was found... mass graves of people killed
> on the path of their destruction On the other han salahaddin obviosuly was
a
> murderer trying to stop the crusaders while richard the lionheart was a
> great king... Bias bias bias as allways... I really dont know what your
> understanding of rape is but obviosly it changes according to who the act
is
> committed by. Please bring forward some proof as i have.
> yes Allah the allmighty asks us to fight in his path for peace and justice
> against evil ... It also is a historically proven fact that christians
were
> opressed by their own powers.. we even see movies about it. Robin Hood,
> Ivanhoe, brave heart.. you know? the middle ages (even before)where people
> were executed for not paying up taxes or who were drowned or burnt for
being
> satanic (the crucible).. and who ran to their rescue?? The muslims :))
> remember the last of the islamic Empires??The ottomans?? As soon as they
> crumbled the christian world virtually slaughtered one another. World war
I
> and II (more people died than in all wars fought in the last 1000 years).
> because france payed taxes so the ottomans would protect them against the
> germans..Itwas also islam that the polish payed taxes for the same reason.
> It was also islam which made peace in the balkans.as soon as the ottomans
> went down the mighty powers just came down with their centuries of
> vengance.. And the Jews ... Surpressed and taxed the hell out of by Europe
> moved themselves to the Islamic lands. Today they own the richest parts of
> Istanbul.. The armenians of the world cry of the anguish suffered by
> themselves for some recognition (and some easy money) however the
Armenians
> of Istanbul dont complain much either.. They also live in the wealthier
> suburbs of Istanbul. Dont you thin its ODD that the muslims surpressed
these
> people by letting them have the wealthy parts of a city that they fought
38
> times for?? Also Saint Sophia Church now known as Ayasofya Mosque (museum)
> was payed for with Gold after the capture of Istanbul (who would pay for
> something they have allready conquered?) Also you owe it to Sultan
Muhammed
> who closed the silk route in 1453 by emposing heavy taxes on european
> traders who brought their stolen wealth back from China. If that route
wasnt
> closed europeans would not have sailed the seas in search of the far east
> and accidentally bumped into America :)). theres something you should
thank
> us for. Ohh speaking of america.. the degeneration of Indians..slave
> labour.. And lets not forget the british and the centuries of brutality in
> the path of colonolisation, stealing wealth and borrowing free people and
> selling them a slaves ...we can go on and on and on. Also i would like to
> know who you are and what your tag is??
> if you are corageous enough...
> Casey wrote in message <3A39A49B...@intergate.ca>...
> >"news.chello.at" wrote:
> >>
> >> Absolutely wrong
> >>
> >> The following proof the intolerance of Islam:
> >
> >Sir, I do not know how well you understand English or Arabic, but I will
> >attempt to answer your "proofs" by using common sense (not even
> >bothering to refer to any text for help).
> >
> >I also do not know if you are Muslim or non-Muslim, but hope that you
> >will read and understand Islam better before spreading your opinions
> >about Islam.
> >
> >>
> >> Islam promises hell to non-Muslims 3:85, 4:56, 5:37, 5:72, 8:55,9:28,
> 15:2,
> >> 21:98-100, 22:19-22, :56-57, 25:17-19, 25:55, 29:53-55, 31:13,
> >> 66:9, 68:10-13, 72:14- 15,
> >
> >There is a distinction to be made between "tolerating" non-muslims, and
> >saying that it is okay to believe in other than the one God, and
> >practice the unfair and dangerous traditions of the Arabs before Islam.
> >To promise hell to the non-Muslims would not contradict any injunction
> >to tolerate them in this world.
> >
> >> Islam warms against mixing with non-Muslims 2:21, 3:28, 3:118, 5:51,
> 5:144,
> >> 9:7, 9:28, 58:23, 60:4.
> >
> >When did "mixing" with any particular group become a condition for
> >tolerance?
> >
> >> Islam calls on Muslims to wage war against non-Muslims 2:191, 2:193,
> 4:66,
> >> 4:84, 5:33, 8:12, 8:15-18, 8:39, 8:59-60, 8:65, 9:2-3, 9:5,9:14,
> >> 9:29, 9:39, 9:73, 9:111, 9:123, 25:52, 37:22-23, 47:4-5, 48:29, 69:30-
> 37.
> >
> >The condition always stated and implied has been to fight only those who
> >fight against you, and to return to peace when the other side offers
> >peace and they agree to either pay the protection money (i.e. tax) or
> >become Muslim.
> >
> >> Islam encourages the war against the non-Muslims by glorifying it
2:216,
> >> 9:41, 49:15, or by promising lust in paradise to the Shaheeds who die
in
> >> such a war 3:142, 3:157-158, 9:20--21.
> >
> >The ultimate test of whether someone has strong principles is whether he
> >or she is willing to stand up for his or her cause. The reward offered
> >is for those who die in battle, or become martyrs while striving to
> >establish and preserve the religion of Truth. These verses must be
> >considered in the historical context in which they were revealed. It
> >would be easy for me to describe the context to you in this reply, but
> >possibly more beneficial to you if you research this yourself (after
> >all, why would you believe what I tell you when you don't even know
> >me?).
> >
> >> In fact the whole koran is a license to kill, rape and loot the
property
> of
> >> nonmuslims. Study carefully. That is what the muslims did
> >> in history in all lands as a sacred duty. They killed looted and raped
> >
> >That is not what you will learn if you study carefully. That is what
> >you might conclude if you listen to CNN, and then skim through
> >translated texts for evidence to support what you already believe.
> >
> >Qassim
>
>


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Dec 18, 2000, 2:09:58 PM12/18/00
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Gen 35:10 And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called
any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.


Anjum Jaleel wrote:

> "MerryChristmas" <Suns...@chello.at> wrote in message
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> > It possible that some Christian committed such crimes but the holly Bible
> > doesn't approve it and you never find a vers in the whole Bible which
> > indicates violence or killing in the name of God, while Quran does. The
> > terms of kill, burn, have sex with her (Nukah, inkahoo) which means (fuck)
> > and other terrible expressions appear in Quran hundreds maybe thousand of
> > times. In fact the whole koran is a license to kill, rape and loot the
> > property of non-Muslims. Study carefully. That is what the Muslims did in
> > history in all lands as a sacred duty. They killed looted and raped.Some
> > Muslims seem to be obsessed with the evil, they have these
> > self -destructive beliefs about holy wars and about killing .
> >
>

> http://www.geocities.com/alummah2000/ViolenceChristianityAndIslam.html

Casey

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