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Edward Hartnett  
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 More options Sep 21 1993, 8:41 am
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From: e...@twod.gsfc.nasa.gov (Edward Hartnett)
Date: 21 Sep 93 08:09:36
Local: Tues, Sep 21 1993 8:09 am
Subject: what do we call ourselves?

I was just wondering, what would the proper term be to describe the
faithful to the infidels? Emacsers? Emacers?
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Jym Dyer  
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 More options Sep 21 1993, 11:48 am
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From: Jym Dyer <j...@remarque.berkeley.edu>
Date: 21 Sep 1993 15:41:21 GMT
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Subject: Re: what do we call ourselves?
=o= Followers of the One True Editor.  Or maybe Meta-Xers.
(See that new newsgroup, alt.society.meta-x.)
    <_Jym_>

 
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Lars Huttar  
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 More options Sep 21 1993, 12:35 pm
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From: hut...@hp750.itg.ti.com (Lars Huttar)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 15:15:52 GMT
Local: Tues, Sep 21 1993 11:15 am
Subject: Re: what do we call ourselves?

> I was just wondering, what would the proper term be to describe the
> faithful to the infidels? Emacsers? Emacers?

Children of the Emaculate Conception?

Lars Huttar               The ringer looks around and he's beaten by a blow,
hut...@hp750.itg.ti.com   And curses the old snagger with the blue-bellied joe!


 
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Theobald B. Lengyel  
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 More options Sep 21 1993, 2:16 pm
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From: t...@cornell.edu (Theobald B. Lengyel)
Date: 21 Sep 93 13:22:00
Subject: Re: what do we call ourselves?
>>> On 21 Sep 93 08:09:36, e...@twod.gsfc.nasa.gov (Edward Hartnett) said:

EH> Mime-Version: 1.0
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EH> I was just wondering, what would the proper term be to describe the
EH> faithful to the infidels? Emacsers? Emacers?
EH> --
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EH> (301) 286-2396                          fax: (301) 286-3460

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John William Chambless  
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 More options Sep 22 1993, 1:29 pm
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From: chamb...@whale.st.usm.edu (John William Chambless)
Date: 22 Sep 1993 11:41:50 -0500
Local: Wed, Sep 22 1993 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: what do we call ourselves?
In article <EJH.93Sep21080...@twod.gsfc.nasa.gov> e...@twod.gsfc.nasa.gov (Edward Hartnett) writes:

>I was just wondering, what would the proper term be to describe the
>faithful to the infidels? Emacsers? Emacers?
>--

Masochists?
Dinosaurs?
traditionalists?
Berkeley Burnouts?
people_too_lame_to_use_vi ?

or maybe..."People who dont have anything better to do that wait for the
editor to load"!

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Joel Ray Holveck  
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 More options Sep 22 1993, 4:06 pm
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From: jrh0...@tamsun.tamu.edu (Joel Ray Holveck)
Date: 22 Sep 1993 14:51:32 -0500
Local: Wed, Sep 22 1993 3:51 pm
Subject: Re: what do we call ourselves?
In article <27pv8e$...@whale.st.usm.edu>,
John William Chambless <chamb...@whale.st.usm.edu> wrote:

>>I was just wondering, what would the proper term be to describe the
>>faithful to the infidels? Emacsers? Emacers?
>Masochists?
>Dinosaurs?
>traditionalists?
>Berkeley Burnouts?
>people_too_lame_to_use_vi ?
>or maybe..."People who dont have anything better to do that wait for the
>editor to load"!

"People who have at least 25 fingers"
"People who wish keyboards had pedals"
"People who have access to a [1-9]0* MB swap file"
"People who use their nose to push bucky keys"
"People who have nothing better to do with their editor than to solve
    Towers of Hanoi recursively"

Shall I go on?

-=<[Joel Ray "The Brane" Holveck]>=-


 
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Calle Dybedahl  
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 More options Sep 23 1993, 11:37 am
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From: ca...@lysator.liu.se (Calle Dybedahl)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 14:42:28 GMT
Local: Thurs, Sep 23 1993 10:42 am
Subject: Re: what do we call ourselves?

e...@twod.gsfc.nasa.gov (Edward Hartnett) writes:
>I was just wondering, what would the proper term be to describe the
>faithful to the infidels? Emacsers? Emacers?

Sensible.

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Dave Christiansen  
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 More options Sep 23 1993, 1:09 pm
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From: basil...@iastate.edu (Dave Christiansen)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 16:28:45 GMT
Local: Thurs, Sep 23 1993 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: what do we call ourselves?
In <CDtA6w....@lysator.liu.se> ca...@lysator.liu.se (Calle Dybedahl) writes:

>e...@twod.gsfc.nasa.gov (Edward Hartnett) writes:
>>I was just wondering, what would the proper term be to describe the
>>faithful to the infidels? Emacsers? Emacers?
>Sensible.

        People who know that free memory is not as important as a good editor
and even if it was, there's always swap :)

>--
>Calle Dybedahl,Arrendeg. 13, S-583 31 Linkoeping,SWEDEN | ca...@lysator.liu.se
>    "I think quotes are very dangerous things." -KaTe Bush

-Dave
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D. Erway  
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 More options Sep 23 1993, 4:57 pm
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From: der...@ndc.com (D. Erway)
Date: 23 Sep 1993 19:46:26 GMT
Local: Thurs, Sep 23 1993 3:46 pm
Subject: Re: what do we call ourselves?

>>>>> On 22 Sep 1993 14:51:32 -0500, jrh0...@tamsun.tamu.edu (Joel Ray
>>>>> Holveck) said:

 jrh0017> In article <27pv8e$...@whale.st.usm.edu>,
 jrh0017> John William Chambless <chamb...@whale.st.usm.edu> wrote:

>>I was just wondering, what would the proper term be to describe the
>>faithful to the infidels? Emacsers? Emacers?
>Masochists?
>Dinosaurs?
>traditionalists?

Is it possible that even the stupidest vi user possibly consider emacs users
as being behind? Try again. Have you had both halves of your cerebrum removed?
vi users are the ones so behind the times they won't even consider that maybe
there is a better, more fun, more productive way.

>Berkeley Burnouts?
>people_too_lame_to_use_vi ?

How about people_willing_to_learn_something_new_when_the_benefits_are_so_clear_and_ob vious,_that_only_an_utter_fool_could_fail_to_see?

>or maybe..."People who dont have anything better to do that wait for the
>editor to load"!

I suppose you don't want to wait for x windows to load either, so you just use
the console screen? Or maybe a vt-52? You only load emacs once, each time you
log in. It's easy to edit multiple files, (even at the same time. Oh my gosh!
How can you keep from getting mixed up?). You don't start and stop it each
time you want to process a different file.

 jrh0017> "People who have at least 25 fingers"
 jrh0017> "People who wish keyboards had pedals"
 jrh0017> "People who use their nose to push bucky keys"

People who learn to type.

 jrh0017> "People who have access to a [1-9]0* MB swap file"

People with real computers, with enough memory for real work.

 jrh0017> "People who have nothing better to do with their editor than to
 jrh0017>     solve Towers of Hanoi recursively"

These 2 morons obviously feel the need for some mutual support. It's sort of
like skin heads getting together and egging each other on in their continued
mixed up thinking.

Perhaps they should have the have their own news group? How about
alt.religion.soon.to.be.brain.wiped?

        -Don

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Per Abrahamsen  
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 More options Sep 23 1993, 8:12 pm
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From: abra...@research.att.com (Per Abrahamsen)
Date: 23 Sep 1993 23:20:18 GMT
Local: Thurs, Sep 23 1993 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: what do we call ourselves?

>>>>> "Erway" == D. Erway <der...@ndc.com> writes:

Erway> Is it possible that even the stupidest vi user possibly
Erway> consider emacs users as being behind? Try again. Have you had
Erway> both halves of your cerebrum removed?  vi users are the ones so
Erway> behind the times they won't even consider that maybe there is a
Erway> better, more fun, more productive way.

Please don't condemn the sinners, the sins condemns themselves.  Or
translated: Don't flame the vi users, using vi is punishment enough.

Erway> You only load emacs once, each time you log in.

Nah, you load emacs when it is upgraded, and use screen to detach and
reattach from the terminal when you must log out.  X11 users have
bigger problems than starting emacs.

jrh0017> "People who wish keyboards had pedals"

Erway> People who learn to type.

Well, actually I wish my keyboard had pedals.

Erway> These 2 morons obviously feel the need for some mutual
Erway> support. It's sort of like skin heads getting together and
Erway> egging each other on in their continued mixed up thinking.

I think we will soon have two new converts.  It is clear from the mere
fact that they post in this holy newsgroup that they are deeply shaken
in their pagan belief.  Most likely, they have watched how true
believers use M-x compile to correct a bunch of errors, use GNUS to
read news, or use ange-ftp to edit remote files.  Soon they will start
emacs ``but only to play getris''...  And once they have seen the
light, there is no way back to the darkness.


 
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Nathan Hess  
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 More options Sep 25 1993, 3:41 am
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From: woods...@nest.verity.com (Nathan Hess)
Date: 25 Sep 1993 00:01:46 GMT
Local: Fri, Sep 24 1993 8:01 pm
Subject: Re: what do we call ourselves?
vi -- leading the way into the 70s!

--woodstock
--
"It doesn't impress the girls, of course, but there's no sense
impressing them and then getting killed, my dad used to say..."  - Hobbes

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D. Erway  
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 More options Sep 25 1993, 8:53 pm
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From: der...@ndc.com (D. Erway)
Date: 26 Sep 1993 00:26:35 GMT
Local: Sat, Sep 25 1993 8:26 pm
Subject: Re: what do we call ourselves?

>>>>> On 23 Sep 1993 23:20:18 GMT, abra...@research.att.com (Per Abrahamsen)
>>>>> said:
>>>>> "Erway" == D. Erway <der...@ndc.com> writes:

Erway> Is it possible that even the stupidest vi user possibly
Erway> consider emacs users as being behind? Try again. Have you had
Erway> both halves of your cerebrum removed?  vi users are the ones so
Erway> behind the times they won't even consider that maybe there is a
Erway> better, more fun, more productive way.

 abraham> Please don't condemn the sinners, the sins condemns themselves.  Or
 abraham> translated: Don't flame the vi users, using vi is punishment
 abraham> enough.

How true.

 abraham> I think we will soon have two new converts.  It is clear from the
 abraham> mere fact that they post in this holy newsgroup that they are deeply
 abraham> shaken in their pagan belief.  Most likely, they have watched how
 abraham> true believers use M-x compile to correct a bunch of errors, use GNUS
 abraham> to read news, or use ange-ftp to edit remote files.  Soon they will
 abraham> start emacs ``but only to play getris''...  And once they have seen
 abraham> the light, there is no way back to the darkness.

Indeed Per, I bow to your superior, peaceful response.  I see that the way of
non-violent demonstration of the truth will set people free.

        Thankyou,
          -Don
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Robert Link  
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 More options Sep 26 1993, 12:31 am
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From: l...@enif.astro.indiana.edu (Robert Link)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 04:19:53 GMT
Local: Sun, Sep 26 1993 12:19 am
Subject: Re: what do we call ourselves?
In article <27pv8e$...@whale.st.usm.edu>,
John William Chambless <chamb...@whale.st.usm.edu> wrote:

>In article <EJH.93Sep21080...@twod.gsfc.nasa.gov> e...@twod.gsfc.nasa.gov (Edward Hartnett) writes:

>>I was just wondering, what would the proper term be to describe the
>>faithful to the infidels? Emacsers? Emacers?
>>--
>Masochists?
>Dinosaurs?
>traditionalists?
>Berkeley Burnouts?
>people_too_lame_to_use_vi ?

>or maybe..."People who dont have anything better to do that wait for the
>editor to load"!

If you're running a computer so slow that Emacs actually takes an
appreciable time to load, then I do indeed feel for you.  That goes
beyond pathetic...

--

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"Practice random kindness                     l...@enif.astro.indiana.edu)
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Edward Hartnett  
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 More options Sep 27 1993, 10:21 am
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From: e...@twod.gsfc.nasa.gov (Edward Hartnett)
Date: 27 Sep 93 09:56:36
Local: Mon, Sep 27 1993 9:56 am
Subject: Re: what do we call ourselves?

In article <DERWAY.93Sep25172...@alumni.ndc.com> der...@ndc.com (D. Erway) writes:

   Indeed Per, I bow to your superior, peaceful response.  I see that the way of
   non-violent demonstration of the truth will set people free.

Nay! Does not the holy info-page proclaim: "Ho thou forth and M-x
smite-vi-users!"
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J Lee Jaap  
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 More options Sep 28 1993, 11:49 am
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From: jaa...@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Date: 28 Sep 1993 15:44:55 GMT
Local: Tues, Sep 28 1993 11:44 am
Subject: Re: what do we call ourselves?
In alt.flame^Wreligion.emacs:

   Nay! Does not the holy info-page proclaim: "Ho thou forth and M-x
   smite-vi-users!"

Ho, ho, ho!  Oops, another religion.
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D. Erway  
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 More options Sep 29 1993, 5:16 pm
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From: der...@ndc.com (D. Erway)
Date: 29 Sep 1993 20:29:34 GMT
Local: Wed, Sep 29 1993 4:29 pm
Subject: Re: what do we call ourselves?

>>>>> On 27 Sep 93 09:56:36, e...@twod.gsfc.nasa.gov (Edward Hartnett) said:

 ejh> Nay! Does not the holy info-page proclaim: "Ho thou forth and M-x
 ejh> smite-vi-users!"

No. As Per has pointed out, using vi is its own punishment. After all, they
will soon loose their jobs due to lack of productivity. Entire companies,
whose programmers use vi, will fall to the competition. Of course, vi was
attractive compared with punched cards and batch systems, or even teletypes
and paper tape, but that is no longer the environment to compete with.

Forgive the vi users Richard, for they know not what they do.

        -Don
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