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An Coibhi Drui

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:54:10 AM11/19/09
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are due in Maryland/ Delaware over the weekend flogging their
Jewellery and generally begging over the weekend, claiming that they
are Irish, They are 100 per cent English !

Thus they are guilty of telling whoppers of lies to American fools who
believe them.

They are disowned by ALL Irish Druids in Ireland,.this is one matter
we are ALL here absolutely united upon.

They have nothing to do with Ireland or the Irish people or Irish
Druids or Irish Druidry, though they insist on living here, they have
always been unwanted by the Irish People.

This will remain the position here in Ireland concerning these Frauds
permanently !

Michael McGrath
Archdruid of Ireland,
Elected, Traditional, Hereditary .

NB : You will not find a single Irish Druid, not one, to contradict me
- in this we are unanimous and resolute as we protect the good name of
Ireland, the Irish People, Irish Druids and Irish Druidry .

Searles O'Dubhain

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Nov 19, 2009, 7:20:11 AM11/19/09
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On Nov 19, 6:54 am, An Coibhi Drui <photographerofkilke...@gmail.com>
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Michael,

Where are they going to be? I may make a field trip there to see for
myself. I had been thinking seriously about visiting the A.R.E. after
reading other threads here. Not to worry that I'll be paying a fee for
visiting or observing people. :-)

Dolores Ashcroft-Nowicki is more to my liking for British magical
traditions and workings. I have yet to find anyone living who has
written a decent book or teaches a class on Irish magical traditions,
The Farrars wrote some decent books on Alexandrian Witchcraft early
on. I don't think I've read anything written by them since Stewart
died. As far as I know, their books are the best ones on the subject
but they are definitely British and not at all Irish.

Why did they move to Ireland? Who did they contact and connect with
once there? I know that they once considered moving to Florida when
Stewart was alive for his health and the warmer climes but could not
afford to do so due to the increased medical costs of living in the
United States without any form of governmental assistance for medical
care.

Searles O'Dubhain

An Coibhi Drui

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Where they'll be ? It's up on Witchvox . What concerns us is that they
have been representing themselves as Irish Druids deliberately , when
they are neither Druid nor Irish .

They moved here back in 1976 to stay at Clonegal with Olivia Robertson
of the Fellowship of Isis at Humtingdon Castle, Olivia and her late
brother did all she could for them, accommodating them for about three
years free at the time. They then moved out, only for Janet Farrar to
slander Olivia stating that Olivia had been locked up 13 times in
mental hospitals ! Janet Farrar repeated this libel on Olivia to me in
Michael Maguire's Cafe on Tara at Midsummer Solstice Day , June 21st
1996 .

( Stewart Farrar was not present, Gavin Bone was at the table. I
objected immediately to such scurrilous slander being spread in my
presence and left for a refreshing walk on the hill with my Druids ,
they according to themselves going off to buy wine in nearby
Dunshaughlin Village ) .

The following year Janet Farrar came up the Hill of Tara leading four
other women waving the Irish Tricolour , screaming ' Up The Rebels ',
' Up the Republic' ( in English accents ! ) and waving Irish
Tricolour flags - we remained silent in dignity . We immediately
ceased ceremony and postponed our Lughnasadh celebrations to Kilkenny
Castle a fortnight later where we celebrated in front of 2000
appreciateive people, writers, artists, musicians and the general
public in the Rose Garden of the Castle .

She has since been requested not to celebrate any ceremonial on the
Hill of Tara by the Friends of Tara Association ( mostly composed of
local residents committess etc who look after the Hill all year
round ) and she hasn't .

She then went on to spread slander via the Internet about me,
personally, old concocted stuff still repearted today by the likes of
Con, Dan and the Minion ( and their socks ) .

|Personally, I had never as Archdruid said a single word about the
Farrars to anybody, good, bad or indifferent - and a hindred Irish
Druids celebrating Lughnasadh privately on Tara did not deserve such
interference !

What she's never understood, what Con, Dwyer - and now Dan and the
Minion cannot get into their heads is that I remain as unmoved as a
statue in the face of lies, slander and abuse , but I do act upon it
as do all Irish Druids, we never forget :-)

They left Ireland to go back to England, but returned here to live in
1993, and since 1995 we Irish Druids have endured continuous lies,
slander and abuse from Janet Farrar - who can become quite a lunatic
in rage when her whole personality changes, when the mask skips !

Everybody here, and I mean everybody, has decided that Ireland would
be a better place for everybody - even Con agrees ! - without Farrar
and Bone !

( Stewart Farrar never participated in all this scandalous behaviour,
in fact I am told that he totally disproved, but by this time he had
lost his wife to Bone, who was living openly with her in Stewart's
home as the ' nurse' !!! ) .

Warrior Druid Ioson de Paor told her to her face that she came from '
The Streets of London' that day we met her in the Tara cafe, and told
Bone to shut his mouth ( which he wisely did ! ) . Ioson remained
standing as a Druid of Honour, in silence, refusing to sit at the
same table as her, while I calmed the situation, all he stated is that
he did not sit with prostitutes !!!

I did vehemently object to her description of Olivia, stating that if
it were true it was even worse of Janet Farrar to go around saying
things like that about an elderly lady like Olivia who had been so
good to her .

The biggest recent she is over in the States on this ' tour' right now
is that she is unwanted in Ireland, forgotten in Britain, and is on a
sales campaign to sell jewellery designed by her. A;so to promote the
book by her and Bone , which never sold ! ( Stewart was the writer,
not her !!! ) .

So by all means go and enjoy yourself, Searles, but I can guarantee
you that you won't learn anything from Farrar that you wouldn't learn
from a woman of the streets downtown !!!!!

Cheers,
Michael .

Searles O'Dubhain

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Nov 20, 2009, 8:46:38 AM11/20/09
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On Nov 19, 8:01 am, An Coibhi Drui <photographerofkilke...@gmail.com>
> mental hospitals ! JanetFarrarrepeated this libel on Olivia to me in

> Michael Maguire's Cafe on Tara at Midsummer Solstice Day , June 21st
> 1996 .
>
> ( StewartFarrarwas not present, Gavin Bone was at the table. I

> objected immediately to such scurrilous slander being spread in my
> presence and left for a refreshing walk on the hill with my Druids ,
> they according to themselves going off to buy wine in nearby
> Dunshaughlin Village ) .
>
> The following year JanetFarrarcame up the Hill of Tara leading four

> other women waving the Irish Tricolour , screaming ' Up The Rebels ',
> ' Up the Republic' ( in English accents ! )  and waving Irish
> Tricolour flags - we remained silent in dignity . We immediately
> ceased ceremony and postponed our Lughnasadh celebrations to Kilkenny
> Castle a fortnight later where we celebrated in front of 2000
> appreciateive people, writers, artists, musicians and the general
> public in the Rose Garden of the Castle .
>
> She has since been requested not to celebrate any ceremonial on the
> Hill of Tara by the Friends of Tara Association ( mostly composed of
> local residents committess etc who look after the Hill all year
> round ) and she hasn't .
>
> She then went on to spread slander via the Internet about me,
> personally, old concocted stuff still repearted today by the likes of
> Con, Dan and the Minion ( and their socks ) .
>
> |Personally, I had never as Archdruid said a single word about the
> Farrars to anybody, good, bad or indifferent - and a hindred Irish
> Druids celebrating Lughnasadh privately on Tara did not deserve such
> interference !
>
> What she's  never understood, what Con, Dwyer - and now Dan and the
> Minion cannot get into their heads is that I remain as unmoved as a
> statue in the face of lies, slander and abuse , but I do act upon it
> as do all Irish Druids, we never forget :-)
>
> They left Ireland to go back to England, but returned here to live in
> 1993, and since 1995 we Irish Druids have endured continuous lies,
> slander and abuse from JanetFarrar- who can become quite a lunatic

> in rage when her whole personality changes, when the mask skips !
>
> Everybody here, and I mean everybody, has decided that Ireland would
> be a better place for everybody - even Con agrees ! - withoutFarrar
> and Bone !
>
> ( StewartFarrarnever participated in all this scandalous behaviour,

> in fact I am told that he totally disproved, but by this time he had
> lost his wife to Bone, who was living openly with her in Stewart's
> home as the ' nurse' !!! ) .
>
> Warrior Druid Ioson de Paor told her to her face that she came from '
> The Streets of London' that day we met her in the Tara cafe, and told
> Bone to shut his mouth ( which he wisely did ! ) . Ioson remained
> standing as a Druid of Honour, in silence,  refusing to sit at the
> same table as her, while I calmed the situation, all he stated is that
> he did not sit with prostitutes !!!
>
> I did vehemently object to her description of Olivia, stating that if
> it were true it was even worse of JanetFarrarto go around saying

> things like that about an elderly lady like Olivia who had been so
> good to her .
>
> The biggest recent she is over in the States on this ' tour' right now
> is that she is unwanted in Ireland, forgotten in Britain, and is on a
> sales campaign to sell jewellery designed by her. A;so to promote the
> book by her and Bone , which never sold ! ( Stewart was the writer,
> not her !!! ) .
>
> So by all means go and enjoy yourself, Searles, but I can guarantee
> you that you won't learn anything fromFarrar that you wouldn't learn

> from a woman of the streets downtown !!!!!
>
> Cheers,
> Michael .- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Michael,

I was not considering making the trip for enjoyment. I'd like to get a
sense of the two from meeting them personally or at least observing
them personally.

Polyamorous relationships can be the best or worst of human endeavors
based on one's actions and heart's truth. My impressions of the
situation with the Farrars was that Stewart needed help in his
declining years and that the relaqtionship was one of necessity with
Gavin Bone. How and what the three of them thought and felt about one
another is beyond my kenning.

You remarks and observations concerning Janet Farrar's behavior and
actions have given me much to consider as I've never heard such from
others. She did lend aid to a group in Florida called Iron Oak when I
lived there, so that's all I can say first hand about the woman. Her
photos in their books say to me that she is one who is entirely
devoted to the Wiccan Goddess. That is outside of Druidry and
certainly far outside of Irish Druidry.

IMO those who visit Ireland and disrupt the gatherings of Irish people
in sacred places are the worst of boors. What you've said about Janet
Farrar concerning the interrupted ritual and Lady Olivia Robertson is
shocking. I'd like to hear the other side of the story directly from
Janet Farrar if possible. I know it's easy to give offense when one is
a stranger to the ways of a country and that the first offense is
often a spark to a bonfire of tinder.

I'm hoping that people who seek out spirit in this world realize that
it is also a world of form and people. One should not be ridden
roughshod over another. That being said, let the fedha fall where they
may.

When the confusion has fled, then the lay of the land will be clear.

Searles O'Dubhain

Searles O'Dubhain

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Nov 20, 2009, 9:21:54 AM11/20/09
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I see from this link that they will be in Delaware this weekend:

http://www.sacredwheel.org/events.html

Here's the WitchVox article:

http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=usmd&c=words&id=13599

The $150 price for the Delaware weekend will keep me away.

They were here in the D.C. area for public ritual at the Jefferson
Memorial at Samhain but my wife and I had other plans already
scheduled and also did not know about them being here.

They will be in Dover, Delaware, tonight at Bell, Book and Candle
bookstore for a public appearance and talk. Unfortunately, the traffic
here won't permit me to arrive there in time.

It seems that I am fated to cross their paths after they've traveled
and to not be there. This has happened on a number of occasions in the
past.

Searles O'Dubhain

An Coibhi Drui

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I can tell you, Searles, that people here in Ireland doo not mind what
they do or say so long as theyy stop using and abusing the name of
Irelland and the Irish to beg abroad .

I have over a hundred actual witnesses to her invasion of our
Lughnasadh 1997 Tara ceremonial though not one person there had ever
interfered with them, or in any way mentioned them or their name
before that.. I had never done or said anything about them up to that
either.

To invade other peoples rituals agressively is a terrible thing, my
conscience is clear about that as I have never done it and never will.
My behaviour publicly as Archdruid since 1993 is impeccable in that
and every other regard in Ireland, my restraint magnificent, even when
as you see on video, Petie invaded our ceremony of 22 October 2009,
and it paid off as he has come to his senses and is a well-behaved
Irish gentleman ever since .

( This madhhouse is a diifferent matter entiirely ) .

I hope now that you do see the Farrars and put your questions to
them

Cheers,
Michael .

1X2Willows

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Nov 20, 2009, 3:49:22 PM11/20/09
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An Coibhi Drui wrote:
>
> My behaviour publicly as Archdruid since 1993 is impeccable


LOLROFL!

Three whopping lies in a nine-words sentence must be an own new record.

:-)


Michael Magrath

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Get any Compo yet, Dan ?

As the service record of your Swiss Felbers in the vatican Swiss
Guards in loyaltyy to successivve Popes ,and right now to the present
Pope, is dazzling, that Compo to you should really be high.

Born, reared , brought up and educated a Catholic and now living on
Catholic Money whiilst spewing hatred against an Irish Archdruid here,
and leading a Campaign of Vicious Hatred here on this NG for three
long years was easy for you Felber - paid on Vatican
Money !!!!!!!!!!!

My case is proven, my service as Archdruid of Ireland , ELECTED ,
TRADITIONAL, HEREDITARY impeccable , my duty unsurpassed by any living
or past Irish Druid .. my family even finally persecuted by your M I
N I O N in an Evill Dirt Campaign of the vilest intimidation,
HORRIFIC against all moral standards

I rest my case aggainst you, Paid Cathhole Arsehole Merchant ,
Felber !!!

In Truth, Justice, Honour,

Michael McGrath
ELECTED ON TARA 1993
ACHDRUID OF IRELAND

1X2Willows

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:23:27 PM11/20/09
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Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
>
> I'd like to hear the other side of the story directly from Janet Farrar if
> possible.

Splendid, why don't you go and do that, as questioning McGrath's word
on anything is a sensible idea for obvious reasons.

Not that anyone would expect you to come back and hold him accountable
for any single one of his blatant lies, once you find out different. Your
rather "creative" allegiances of late have certainly been noticed by the
greater community and your name, nowadays, is being mentioned in the
same breath as theirs. Not very desirable to say the least.

Kinda' sad, really, because you've gotten yourself in this rut even against
the better hopes and advice from a lot of sympathetic people around you,
Dana and me included. One can only wonder whatever happened for a
former sincere seeker on the common druidic path to become an enabler
and defender of shoddy scholarship and outright nationalist suprematism.


Michael Magrath

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:31:23 PM11/20/09
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dirty underhanded threat of I ever saw one , and that from a
compensated buggered victim of a Vatican Swiss Prelate !

Michael Magrath

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> compensated buggered victim of a Vatican Swiss Prelate !- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

You should now stop putting your mental anguish as a financially
compensated victim of childhood buggery at the hands of a Swiss
Vatican Prelate over on others, seek counselling - or kill yourself,
these are your only choices . You have my sympathy, despite
everything, so I would suggest you try counselling first.

Michael Magrath

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> everything, so I would suggest you try counselling first.- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

( If such a monstrous thing had to happen to me, Felber, I would have
killed myself , straightaway ! ) .

Dana

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Nono....his behavior *has* been impeccable--as in impeccably disgraceful,
disgusting, despicable......


An Coibhi Drui

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Nov 20, 2009, 6:00:26 PM11/20/09
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H.M.V.

Kent

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On Nov 20, 4:00 pm, An Coibhi Drui <photographerofkilke...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> H.M.V.

Hibernian Motor Vehicles?
Humvee Motor Vehicles?
Her Majesty's Victrola?
Hugo Martinez Velasquez?
How Maudlin Vaudevillian-esque?

Noinden

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Nov 20, 2009, 8:09:16 PM11/20/09
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Homoerotic manipulation vouyer?

1X2Willows

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Nov 20, 2009, 8:15:56 PM11/20/09
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Typo. Should have been H.M.M. for "Heu me miserum"


1X2Willows

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Nov 20, 2009, 8:17:03 PM11/20/09
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Noinden wrote:

LOL!

Human Mind Vacant?


An Coibhi Drui

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Nov 20, 2009, 8:19:04 PM11/20/09
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Keep on guessing ....( hint : something to do with records ) ...

Noinden

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Nov 20, 2009, 8:24:39 PM11/20/09
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Home monitored Version

An Coibhi Drui

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On Nov 21, 1:24 am, Noinden <noin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> An Coibhi Drui <photographerofkilke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 21, 1:17 am, "1X2Willows" <nos...@least.invalid> wrote:
> > > Noinden wrote:
> > > > Kent wrote:
> > > >> On Nov 20, 4:00 pm, An Coibhi Drui
> > > > > <photographerofkilke...@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
>
> > > >>> H.M.V.
>
> > > >> Hibernian Motor Vehicles?
> > > >> Humvee Motor Vehicles?
> > > >> Her Majesty's Victrola?
> > > >> Hugo Martinez Velasquez?
> > > >> How Maudlin Vaudevillian-esque?
>
> > > > Homoerotic manipulation vouyer?
>
> > > LOL!
>
> > > Human Mind Vacant?
>
> > Keep on guessing ....( hint : something to do with records )  ...
>
> Home monitored Version- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Nope !

Noinden

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Nov 20, 2009, 8:29:42 PM11/20/09
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Hint we know what HMV stands for George

Dana

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Nov 20, 2009, 8:33:29 PM11/20/09
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Ah! CoBDO records..... Yes, I'd like to hear more about those.....


Noinden

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As a non voting member who was only included because they felt sorry for
him what would he know?

1X2Willows

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An Coibhi Drui wrote:

> On Nov 21, 1:17 am, "1X2Willows" wrote:
>> Noinden wrote:
>>> Kent wrote:
>>>> On Nov 20, 4:00 pm, An Coibhi Drui
>>>> <photographerofkilke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> H.M.V.
>>
>>>> Hibernian Motor Vehicles?
>>>> Humvee Motor Vehicles?
>>>> Her Majesty's Victrola?
>>>> Hugo Martinez Velasquez?
>>>> How Maudlin Vaudevillian-esque?
>>
>>> Homoerotic manipulation vouyer?
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> Human Mind Vacant?
>
> Keep on guessing ....( hint : something to do with records ) ...

Yeah I like doggies too but you don't seriously expect us to chase
after yer stupid "riddles" which you blow out as a diversion, right?

We're long doing our own thing and it's a lot funnier! haahaa

Honorary Moron Ventriloquist?


An Coibhi Drui

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On Nov 21, 1:35 am, Noinden <noin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> him what would he know?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I was a fullll voting Member of Council and resigned, they then
elected me as an Honoured Associate - which iin CoBDO is MUCH HIGHER
than ordinary Voting Councillor , according to Tradition, because if
you knew anything about Druidry you would know that Advisor ( as we
FEW Associates are) is more important and more consulted, listened to
and acted upon than a mere voting Member.
Also in CoBDO I do not qualify as a voting member as that is reserved
for Order Chiefs, and I am no longer an Order Chief ( retired, past
60 ).
Honoured Associate is the Highest Honour that CoBDO can bestow on a
Druid, and if you look up the CoBDO List there are very few of us !
It would be almost impossible to get Honoured Associate by actually
setting out to achieve it, few in the world are thus honoured, few
ever will be !

( As I said before, it is NOT an Office, it is NOT a mere voting
membership - and as Stonehengio tried to get into your thick skulls
too, but nothing can crack those !!! ).

An Coibhi Drui

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On Nov 21, 1:46 am, An Coibhi Drui <photographerofkilke...@gmail.com>
> too, but nothing can crack those !!! ).- Hide quoted text -

>
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Honoured Associate iis the Highest Honour that the Councill of
Britiish Druid Orders can bestow on a Druiid - and CoBDO is the
biggest and most important Druid Council in the worlld, representing
now over 50,,000 directly , and another half a million throughout the
British Isles, alll four countries and all native lands of these
islands ,

AND Honoured Associate is hardly ever bestowed , it is so treasured,
about a dozen only in over 20 years !

You have to earn it - by 1998 , CoBDO judged that I had singularly
earned their Highest Honour and conferred that Honour on me by
UNANIMOUS Vote of the Council .

( It can never be taken away, there are no such provisions in the
Constitution of CoBDO , so you may forget about any more scheming - it
will get you simply nowhere ! ) .

Today I am as hard-working as ever on behalf of CoBDO !!!

Michael .

Dana

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Translation:

I begged and wheedled and threatened, hoping they'd make me a voting member,
but they heartlessly refused me! Finally, just to shut me up and keep me
from making lewd phonecalls to people's wives at 3 am, they made me an
"Honored Associate" and assured me it was very very important, which I
believed for awhile until I overheard them laughing about how they'd managed
to shut me up with a meaningless title.


An Coibhi Drui

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> to shut me up with a meaningless title.- Hide quoted text -

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If you dream so.....we WORK !

Searles O'Dubhain

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Dan,

I follow the Druid way wherever it takes me. You may consider that to
be a rut but I don't.

Searles O'Dubhain

stonehengeio

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"I follow the Druid way wherever it takes me. You may consider that to
> be a rut but I don't.
Now "That's" a Druidic remark Searles.
Dan allows logic to cloud his judgment, he fails to realize logic is
fallible.
I think he is rather annoyed at that. lol

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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stonehengeio wrote:

Seems of late most All, follow the Learned against the Led, despite their own better
judgment.

Searles O'Dubhain

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On Dec 4, 12:06 pm, stonehengeio <stoneheng...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> "I follow the Druid way wherever it takes me. You may consider that to> be a rut but I don't.
>
> Now "That's" a Druidic remark Searles.
> Dan allows logic to cloud his judgment, he fails to realize logic is
> fallible.
> I think he is rather annoyed at that. lol
>

One can learn a lot from one's own mistakes and the mistakes of
others. Even when one disagrees or disputes knowledge from other
sources, learning can occur with an open mind. It is only when the
mind is closed or full of itself that one does not learn.

Intuition, inspiration and imbas are ways that the mind is pointed
beyond the confines of mortal (imperfect) logic. What one does and
makes with new discoveries at that point can advance all forms of
knowledge and even life itself.

Why be guilty of the very things that others are accused of?

I also think that the people who might be discussing me would be doing
the same in the same light no matter what I did or with whom I discuss
Druid matters. My actions aren't dictated by others but the path that
I'm on does take me to many places that I would not otherwise
investigate or experience.

It is the Druid way and cannot be ignored by the word or fad of the
day.

Searles O'Dubhain

Searles O'Dubhain

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On Dec 5, 4:03 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"

>
> Seems of late most All, follow the Learned against the Led, despite their own better
> judgment.
>  
>  

It'd be better to follow one's own path or the Druid way and to not
follow anyone else.

Searles O'Dubhain

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Searles O'Dubhain wrote:

> On Dec 4, 12:06 pm, stonehengeio <stoneheng...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > "I follow the Druid way wherever it takes me. You may consider that to> be a rut but I don't.
> >
> > Now "That's" a Druidic remark Searles.
> > Dan allows logic to cloud his judgment, he fails to realize logic is
> > fallible.
> > I think he is rather annoyed at that. lol
> >
>
> One can learn a lot from one's own mistakes and the mistakes of
> others. Even when one disagrees or disputes knowledge from other
> sources, learning can occur with an open mind. It is only when the
> mind is closed or full of itself that one does not learn.

Yep, when the Child becomes the Adult, to Busy to Play.
Why Magpie didn't Make Totem, they were "To Playful".

> �


>
> Intuition, inspiration and imbas are ways that the mind is pointed
> beyond the confines of mortal (imperfect) logic. What one does and
> makes with new discoveries at that point can advance all forms of
> knowledge and even life itself.

One thought "Can Change The World" so lock yourself in a cave and ignore the world around you.
You are Safe in Your Kingdom, RIGHT??????????????

> �


>
> Why be guilty of the very things that others are accused of?

Only Way to Solve the Argument.

> �


>
> I also think that the people who might be discussing me would be doing
> the same in the same light no matter what I did or with whom I discuss
> Druid matters.

Sorta Kinda, they are Churcher Chrome Domes, Black Hat Sassers.
You are a "Kook" they are HUNTING.
How does it feel to be a Hind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Poor little Ass, they got you pegged all over the place.
Thing is "Nemedians", can "Not Be Stopped"!!!!!!!

> My actions aren't dictated by others but the path that
> I'm on does take me to many places that I would not otherwise
> investigate or experience.

Do What?
How can "The Path YOU are On", "LEAD YOU TO PLACES, YOU WOULD NOT OTHERWISE EXPERIENCE"?
You are your Destiny, the Sum Total of your Heritage.
You are the one "BORN OF NOBEL BIRTH".
The Forces "GUIDING YOU" are not Angels, nor Gods, nor even Demons.
This is the "End Times", you are the Sum Total of your Ancestry.
With Out YOU, they have Failed.
To Fulfill Destiny, they "Must", Guide You.

> �


Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Searles O'Dubhain wrote:

> On Dec 5, 4:03 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
> >
> > Seems of late most All, follow the Learned against the Led, despite their own better
> > judgment.
> >
> >
>
> It'd be better to follow one's own path

You are the One BORN OF NOBEL BIRTH, the Path You walk is the Path of YOUR DESTINY.
The Path I walk is THE PATH OF MY DESTINY
Other than a Karmic Breech, why should we argue over the shared concept of "The All
Things"?
It is a Beautiful Thing, Children Share, People "BREATH' like Air, it is a spark with in
all life.
Not a Nugget of Gold to Be Hoarded.
Like the Great Ring.
It is not GOLD!!!!!!!!!!!
IT, not the SILVER WHEEL, is Teathered/Chained to the Mountain.
Scandinavians, do not have the Great Ring, the Gwitchin(?) Do.
Innesfeld is not Greenland, it is Terra Incognita, the Land
"BEYOND THE CHINA SEA"
You may enjoy the Winter Solstice, but Alaska is it's HOME.
We are "Lands Farthest Reach".
We are the Land of Winter.
We have the Great Ring in the Midnight Sky.
We are the Land of Nod, where Darkness brings the sleep of Hibernation.
The Hybernian's of the Land of Winter.


Searles O'Dubhain

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On Dec 6, 12:15 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"

>
> Do What?
> How can "The Path YOU are On", "LEAD YOU TO PLACES, YOU WOULD NOT OTHERWISE EXPERIENCE"?
> You are your Destiny, the Sum Total of your Heritage.
> You are the one "BORN OF NOBEL BIRTH".
> The Forces "GUIDING YOU" are not Angels, nor Gods, nor even Demons.
> This is the "End Times", you are the Sum Total of your Ancestry.
> With Out YOU, they have Failed.
> To Fulfill Destiny, they "Must", Guide You.
>  

I should say that I am not always aware of destiny. Sometimes it has
to slap me in the face to awaken my senses to what is all around me.
How many of us stumble or sleep walk when we could be awake?

I sometimes call these "slaps" by the name of "teacher" and at other
times, I already know the lesson. The joy and adventure of not knowing
is almost as great as the thrill of discovery.

It's the old question of "free will" vs. predestination. If we knew
everything at every moment in all of our lives we would would miss the
joy and adventure and the thrill. What we would be left with is a sort
of universal harmony. In all of eternity, universal harmony could
become tedious.

Of course, as one's awareness expands.,the universe and its
possibilities also expands so boredom is only a temporary matter. :-)

Searles O'Dubhain

Searles O'Dubhain

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On Dec 6, 12:25 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"

I've found that sharing with others is at times a reminder that we all
have a path that is part of an uncommon greater destiny. I don't
profess to understand what that greater destiny is in detail but once
in a while I do get flashes of it.

I agree that we are all a part of destiny and that we should not argue
over "The All Things" as they will be as they will be. I hope that our
efforts bring each of us to awareness and our own unique greatness.

Searles O'Dubhain

Searles O'Dubhain

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On Nov 19, 6:54 am, An Coibhi Drui <photographerofkilke...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> are due in Maryland/ Delaware over the weekend flogging their
> Jewellery and generally begging over the weekend, claiming that they
> are Irish, They are 100 per cent English !
>
> Thus they are guilty of telling whoppers of lies to American fools who
> believe them.
>
> They are disowned by ALL Irish Druids in Ireland,.this is one matter
> we are ALL here absolutely united upon.
>
> They have nothing to do with Ireland or the Irish people or Irish
> Druids or Irish Druidry, though they insist on living here, they have
> always been unwanted by the Irish People.
>
> This will remain the position here in Ireland concerning these Frauds
> permanently !
>
> Michael McGrath
> Archdruid of Ireland,
> Elected, Traditional, Hereditary .
>
> NB : You will not find a single Irish Druid, not one, to contradict me
> - in this we are unanimous and resolute as we protect the good name of
> Ireland, the Irish People, Irish Druids and Irish Druidry .

I thought I'd change the title for this topic as the discussion
actually seems to be over following one's path rather than anyone
committing fraud. It could be considered fraud if one claimed to be
Irish without embracing Irish traditions and Ireland herself. I'm in
no position to say how others have or have not done this.

I think the Farrars have their own path and judging from their earlier
books it is a fairly complete one. I also think their books on
Alexandrian Witchcraft are the best out there. I haven't read anything
they've written on Irish Witchcraft or Irish Druids. If anyone knows
of any and their titles, I'd appreciate the info.

No matter who one is or what one has achieved elsewhere, I'd expect
that anyone coming to live in Ireland and practice a version of her
native religions would at the least either study under a native
practitioner for a while or form an alliance with native groups where
in what they do is synchronized by their Filidh.

That's what the Milesians were said to have done in the pseudo-
histories of Ireland. That's what I'd expect any Druid or File to do
when coming to Ireland. If the Farrars have not done this, I'm
surprised and definitely want to know more about the details and the
circumstances (preferably from the people who are in the native Irish
traditions and have first hand knowledge of the situation).

Michael has pretty much clearly stated his position and understanding
on the matter. I'd really like to hear more from others. There are
probably some valuable lessons for everyone to learn in all of this
(about Irish ways and ways in general).

Searles O'Dubhain

Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

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Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
> On Dec 6, 12:25ÔøΩam, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"

>>ÔøΩ
>>ÔøΩ


>
>
> I've found that sharing with others is at times a reminder that we all
> have a path that is part of an uncommon greater destiny. I don't
> profess to understand what that greater destiny is in detail but once
> in a while I do get flashes of it.
>
> I agree that we are all a part of destiny and that we should not argue
> over "The All Things" as they will be as they will be. I hope that our
> efforts bring each of us to awareness and our own unique greatness.
>
> Searles O'Dubhain

To call the human race insignificant is to flatter it.

In an infinite universe how significant can any one life form be?
--

Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky/files/sf_anthem.mp3

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Searles O'Dubhain wrote:

> On Dec 6, 12:15 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
> >
> > Do What?
> > How can "The Path YOU are On", "LEAD YOU TO PLACES, YOU WOULD NOT OTHERWISE EXPERIENCE"?
> > You are your Destiny, the Sum Total of your Heritage.
> > You are the one "BORN OF NOBEL BIRTH".
> > The Forces "GUIDING YOU" are not Angels, nor Gods, nor even Demons.
> > This is the "End Times", you are the Sum Total of your Ancestry.
> > With Out YOU, they have Failed.
> > To Fulfill Destiny, they "Must", Guide You.
> >
>
> I should say that I am not always aware of destiny. Sometimes it has
> to slap me in the face to awaken my senses to what is all around me.
> How many of us stumble or sleep walk when we could be awake?

The Slavers love it, the Sheeple numbly just fall in line.

> �


>
> I sometimes call these "slaps" by the name of "teacher" and at other
> times, I already know the lesson. The joy and adventure of not knowing
> is almost as great as the thrill of discovery.

To a curious Child, to the Hard Core "ADULT", it is all stupid child's play.
There is Nothing to Learn, one being the Sum Total, must by Nature "KNOW EVERYTHING".
The Angel of Knowledge is not one who "Knows It All" rather he "KNOWS" something FAR MORE
IMPORTANT.
"HIS NAME", the KEY to the GATES.

> �


>
> It's the old question of "free will" vs. predestination. If we knew
> everything at every moment in all of our lives we would would miss the
> joy and adventure and the thrill. What we would be left with is a sort
> of universal harmony. In all of eternity, universal harmony could
> become tedious.
>
> Of course, as one's awareness expands.,the universe and its
> possibilities also expands so boredom is only a temporary matter. :-)
>
> Searles O'Dubhain

Walking the Waters is Hardly a "BORING" issue.
Even if "Pretenders", want to take it away from you.


Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Only if we can unite under a Banner of Truth in the face of the Churcher Nay Sayers.
Otherwise the Fundies Break the Chain of Destiny.

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Searles O'Dubhain wrote:

> On Nov 19, 6:54 am, An Coibhi Drui <photographerofkilke...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > are due in Maryland/ Delaware over the weekend flogging their
> > Jewellery and generally begging over the weekend, claiming that they
> > are Irish, They are 100 per cent English !
> >
> > Thus they are guilty of telling whoppers of lies to American fools who
> > believe them.

You are lost in Viking/Saxon Revisionist History.
You forced us out, check the books.
Culloden(?) was not an Act of Brotherly Love.
The Men who stood on the Bridge against the Demands of the King that "All
Follow the New CHURCH OF SHAKESPEARE, or are "Traitors to the Crown", is not
a Bed Time Story you put Kids to Sleep With.
Wickset is not Hollywood, but Clanna can not "SIGN ALLEGIANCES" in the
Sept's Name.
The Pledge of Wickset has no bearing on the Clans of New Briton.
You bow to the Angle, we taught the Natives how to deny them Heaven by
Scalping them and gave them the Ax to do it with.
Especially after William of Orange began altering Survey Records.

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." wrote:

> Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
> > On Dec 6, 12:25 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"

> > I've found that sharing with others is at times a reminder that we all
> > have a path that is part of an uncommon greater destiny. I don't
> > profess to understand what that greater destiny is in detail but once
> > in a while I do get flashes of it.
> >
> > I agree that we are all a part of destiny and that we should not argue
> > over "The All Things" as they will be as they will be. I hope that our
> > efforts bring each of us to awareness and our own unique greatness.
> >
> > Searles O'Dubhain
>
> To call the human race insignificant is to flatter it.
>
> In an infinite universe how significant can any one life form be?

Yep, Especially those "GODS, the Likes of YOU".
Needle Dick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

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Must be aggravating to be a wannabe slut in alaska. Probly takes 3 - 4
times as long to save up your pennies for your eventual castration, at
least then you will really have something to whine about.

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." wrote:
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." wrote:
>
>>To call the human race insignificant is to flatter it.
>>
>>In an infinite universe how significant can any one life form be?
>
>
> Yep, Especially those "GODS, the Likes of YOU".
> Needle Dick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

Must be aggravating to be a wannabe slut in alaska.

You are the Ex Spurt on the Subject.
To bad you don't understand I busted you last as in 2008 April.
You wanna "Manufacture" Server Files and file complaints in me go ahead.
More that one way to identify Forgery.
You even made a "PUBLIC STATEMENT" concerning your HACKING MY SERVICE.
So file your complaints, like I told your friend Albie, I get less than 10 Days and a Free Attorney, you get 10 Years!!!!!!!!!!!
The Defense to Slander or Liable is "TRUTH" I have evidence in hand to make the statements I make.
You have nothing but the White Boys in Feathers Lip Service, of the Cherokee's of Peuged Sound and all the Money the Aryan Brotherhood can steal through the Department of the Interior.
The Oil Barons left a mass and sloppy trail, ANWR was an ABSOLUTE.

 

Probly takes 3 - 4
times as long to save up your pennies for your eventual castration,


Yours is free, a Bris on the Clanna, you wanna cite the Law, then you gotta make the sacrifice.

at
least then you will really have something to whine about.


Your the Whiner, and Liar....

o}:-)
 

Searles O'Dubhain

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On Dec 6, 7:43 am, "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." <jpsti...@isp.com>

wrote:
> Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
> > On Dec 6, 12:25 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
> > I've found that sharing with others is at times a reminder that we all
> > have a path that is part of an uncommon greater destiny. I don't
> > profess to understand what that greater destiny is in detail but once
> > in a while I do get flashes of it.
>
> > I agree that we are all a part of destiny and that we should not argue
> > over "The All Things" as they will be as they will be. I hope that our
> > efforts bring each of us to awareness and our own unique greatness.
>
> > Searles O'Dubhain
>
> To call the human race insignificant is to flatter it.
>
> In an infinite universe how significant can any one life form be?
> --
>
> Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
>
> Domine, dirige nos.
> Let the games begin!http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky/files/sf_anthem.mp3- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

We are all part of the web of life. Each entity and object contains
its seeds within them. To place more or less significance on any part
of the universe demonstrates perspective but does nothing to determine
actual importance.

Searles O'Dubhain

Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

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Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
> On Dec 6, 7:43ÔøΩam, "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq."

> wrote:
>>>
>>>I've found that sharing with others is at times a reminder that we all
>>>have a path that is part of an uncommon greater destiny. I don't
>>>profess to understand what that greater destiny is in detail but once
>>>in a while I do get flashes of it.
>>
>>>I agree that we are all a part of destiny and that we should not argue
>>>over "The All Things" as they will be as they will be. I hope that our
>>>efforts bring each of us to awareness and our own unique greatness.
>>
>>>Searles O'Dubhain
>>
>>To call the human race insignificant is to flatter it.
>>
>>In an infinite universe how significant can any one life form be?
>>--
>>
>>Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
>>
>

> We are all part of the web of life. Each entity and object contains
> its seeds within them. To place more or less significance on any part
> of the universe demonstrates perspective but does nothing to determine
> actual importance.
>
> Searles O'Dubhain

"Mankind's transcendental spiritual pride" is at the root of a lot of
mankind's inhumanity to man. At least as far as any human
rationalization for it goes.

Fundamentally the human animal is a frightened little ape, and that fear
breeds all sorts of anger and hostility, which is often rationalized
with religious nonsense justifying its hostility, ignorance and arrogance.

Yours is a nice sentiment Searles, but im still of the opinion that the
human species is less than the high point of creation it likes to think
of itself as.

Given some of the examples displayed here i can only admire your optimism.

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Front Page News today.
War with the Blackfeet and the Dept. of the Interior, over you and your friends "Management of their "Native Trust Funds"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Now one of the "Wrestlers" is talking about H.A.R.P.!!!!!!!!!!
One of the Things which set me off.
A BILLIUON OGHM's. legends only call for 150,000
Must be just the Local Leg, but the Locals deny Outsiders.
Sorta Kinda the Joke Boy
 
 

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Damn 5 Virus Attacks in one day, Needle Dick must have soiled his Good Pants.

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