Hitting someone is always wrong?

[Tom]

http://www.nospank.net/ostwald.htm
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Jayzizz, this set of discussions is so bloody stupid.

Why will people not just face the facts about how the practice of
hitting and humiliating and crushing children originated.........
....in the desperate wars for survival after the ecological
catastrophe of eleven thousand years ago shown in the geological
record........... You MUST beat and humiliate your children if you
want to win wars....

................ simply because unloved, lonely, miserable, enraged
people are more effective as soldiers, to keep the ruling group in the
life of luxury to which they are accustomed, which is the purpose of
motherhood and the purpose of every human being's life.

..........WHAT COULD BE SIMPLER THAN THAT??


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THE FORGOTTEN HORRORS OF THE MOTHER-INFANT RELATIONSHIP /
THE FOUNTAIN OF SORROWS / ORIGINAL SIN:

Dale Glabach, Niles Newton et al on infantile sexuality:
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/breastfeedinglovemaking.php

Careless Hands (that can't hold on to love)
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dddp6bt4_187gpmt3sjh

Shaking the Baby
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dddp6bt4_21gvfsbjdd

The Universal Fear of Being Known
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dddp6bt4_188hggbt5f8

The Prominence of Anal Eroticism in Infancy
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dfqhsz6n_41ckwz5hfx

The Shame
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0ATLJ93aHtMlYZGRkcDZidDRfOTA0bnA1d3dmNw&hl=en

The Incest Taboo Revisited
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dddp6bt4_37hfqw24g3

The best of "Collective Mental Illness"
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dddp6bt4_191cz999ngm

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[spiritrising]

spare the rod, and spoil the child....as if you have noticed that since
the inception of discipline in the home being taken out kids have no
respect what so ever anymore, but i bet you don't see the problem with that.

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Tom wrote:

> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> Jayzizz, this set of discussions is so bloody stupid.
>
> Why will people not just face the facts about how the practice of
> hitting and humiliating and crushing children originated.........
> ....in the desperate wars for survival after the ecological
> catastrophe of eleven thousand years ago shown in the geological
> record........... You MUST beat and humiliate your children if you
> want to win wars....
>
> ................ simply because unloved, lonely, miserable, enraged
> people are more effective as soldiers, to keep the ruling group in the
> life of luxury to which they are accustomed, which is the purpose of
> motherhood and the purpose of every human being's life.
>
> ..........WHAT COULD BE SIMPLER THAN THAT??
>

Sadistic Bullies!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

spiritrising wrote:

> Tom wrote:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Jayzizz, this set of discussions is so bloody stupid.
> >
> > Why will people not just face the facts about how the practice of
> > hitting and humiliating and crushing children originated.........
> > ....in the desperate wars for survival after the ecological
> > catastrophe of eleven thousand years ago shown in the geological
> > record........... You MUST beat and humiliate your children if you
> > want to win wars....
> >
> > ................ simply because unloved, lonely, miserable, enraged
> > people are more effective as soldiers, to keep the ruling group in the
> > life of luxury to which they are accustomed, which is the purpose of
> > motherhood and the purpose of every human being's life.
> >
> > ..........WHAT COULD BE SIMPLER THAN THAT??
> >
> >

> =====================================================
> >
>
> spare the rod, and spoil the child....

Means Exactly That!
"Spare the Rod, and SPOIL the Child"!!!
Don't beat em down when the ask Questions, Children NEED to be Heard, not just a
Trophy for Show!
Don't Tell em what to THINK, share the Idea you want to have them UNDERSTAND!

> as if you have noticed that since
> the inception of discipline in the home being taken out kids have no
> respect what so ever anymore, but i bet you don't see the problem with that.

As for TODAY'S Children, look at their Parents!
They told ya LSD caused Chromosome Damage!
Couple Lines of Coke, during Pregnancy never hurt no one.
Have a Glass of Wine and a Couple Bowls, Relax the Kids won't mind!
How about their Candy Rage, ever taste this Sour Junk they Love so Much?
Unsweetened Kool-Aid, tastes exactly the same!

[Tom]

On Aug 6, 1:47 pm, spiritrising <miketwofeath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> spare the rod, and spoil the child....as if you have noticed that since
> the inception of discipline in the home being taken out kids have no
> respect what so ever anymore, but i bet you don't see the problem with that.

====

No, I hate what is happening in England today, where we have role
reversal in our dealings with young people. But there is a way of
going to the root of the problem.

[spiritrising]

you really think that stuff works like you said? i raised two girls and
a boy by myself, after my wife died, they didn't get any of the things
things you said, and i didn't do lsd or other things i was too busy
working and taking care of kids, now one went on and got a degree in
veterinary medicine and the other is a crack head whore. so tell me how
that works again? they got spanked when they needed it and got supported
when they needed it. two different results.

[spiritrising]

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
>
>

with the way kids are coddled they think they are part of a gimmie
society where they should have and get everything for free, they don't
think they have to work for anything as they have been given it all
while they were young, so no work values instilled there, and respect,
there is none as they know they don't have to worry about getting into
hot water as there is nothing a parent can do that is called discipline
today. there is a big difference between discipline and abuse but its a
fine line one has to know, sure many might cross it, but now one can't
even get close as words can be called abuse now and folks abuse that
definition all the time to get what they want, next thing you know
breathing in someone's direction will be abuse, how funny.

best kids i have ever run into were home schooled kids where discipline
is installed and coddling is out the door and they are taught to do as
they are told and learn work values and respect before they are thrown
out into the world. have never met a better kid out in society.

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Anglican Purism!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

YEP!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

spiritrising wrote:

> Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> >
> >
> > Tom wrote:
> >
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Jayzizz, this set of discussions is so bloody stupid.
> >>
> >> Why will people not just face the facts about how the practice of
> >> hitting and humiliating and crushing children originated.........
> >> ....in the desperate wars for survival after the ecological
> >> catastrophe of eleven thousand years ago shown in the geological
> >> record........... You MUST beat and humiliate your children if you
> >> want to win wars....
> >>
> >> ................ simply because unloved, lonely, miserable, enraged
> >> people are more effective as soldiers, to keep the ruling group in the
> >> life of luxury to which they are accustomed, which is the purpose of
> >> motherhood and the purpose of every human being's life.
> >>
> >> ..........WHAT COULD BE SIMPLER THAN THAT??
> >>
> >
> > Sadistic Bullies!
> >
>
> with the way kids are coddled they think they are part of a gimmie
> society

They Get it from their Parents!

[spiritrising]

so whats my one kids excuse? i never used crack nor have i advocated
such use. i don't believe in frivolous things like that and have never
taught any kind of behaviors like that, that shows in my other daughter
who went on and has done great things and now even has a grizzly bear
rehab on the property. maybe you forgot what its like to be susceptible
to outside influences like your self in society.

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Exactly!
You are a True Anal Retentive Bigot, who just can't handle allowing people to
"Be Happy"!
Your attitude on the Net, is expressed in the Kids EMO Reflection of You taken
to the Higher Order!
The more Rage they can illicit from you, the Greater the Rush!

[spiritrising]

i'll think on that when i go to the beach today sucking on a mytie, as i
have a local rub my feet, must be sad not have have that kind of
treatment. i can't imagine how happy a crack head is but you truly must
know by experience.

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Insulting the Hippie Doper Dumb Fucks while you do too!

[spiritrising]

hasn't been any hippies since 1972, many might think of themselves as
one, but shit they don't even know what one is.

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Right, you know all about why them Long Hairs ceased to Exist, dontcha Cowboy!

[spiritrising]

well i'll tell you one thing there was a protest march about the name
hippie, the diggers didn't like the name that the newspapers and
television/government folks picked, so the name hippie doesn't really
exist in the first place, unless you believe what the government tells
you. and i got your cowboy all right, right in my hand

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

More than One!
And your still a Drunken Redneck hunting Hippies!

[spiritrising]

for your information i haven't had anything to drink since may 1969, my
neck is red as is the rest of my body as i am an indian, i haven't seen
a hippie since the early 70's, so much for hunting them.

[conway caine]

"spiritrising" wrote in message
news:658ed$5027a9dc$a666c5e2$4...@ALLTEL.NET...

>

for your information i haven't had anything to drink since may 1969, my
neck is red as is the rest of my body as i am an indian, i haven't seen
a hippie since the early 70's, so much for hunting them.

****Why, pray tell, are you perpetuating this stereotype?

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Not what you said, and I still see You as a Drunken Pharmaceutical User blaming Dopers for
putting a Smile on their Face!
Opie!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

conway caine wrote:

> "spiritrising" wrote in message

>
> >
>
> for your information i haven't had anything to drink since may 1969, my
> neck is red as is the rest of my body as i am an indian, i haven't seen
> a hippie since the early 70's, so much for hunting them.
>
> ****Why, pray tell, are you perpetuating this stereotype?

Republican Conservative, who thinks "Starting Something" you Brainwash Lil
Brother into Believing then, dump him to become Big Brother Himself, is
Social Provenance!

[conway caine]

"Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
news:eeKdndspKpZJ47XN...@posted.gcicommunications...

****You got all that from his statement??

[spiritrising]

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
>
>

nope don't believe in conservatism, nor liberalism, try again

[spiritrising]

not a single medicine in my cabinet, but plenty in my bag as i do hand
them out or write a script, i don't even use aspirin. try again

[Unknown]

On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:02:42 -0600, spiritrising
<miketwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>not a single medicine in my cabinet, but plenty in my bag as i do hand
>them out or write a script, i don't even use aspirin. try again

Can you perscribe Simpson oil?

max.it (the orange cage)

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

conway caine wrote:

> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message

> conway caine wrote:
> > "spiritrising" wrote in message
>
> > for your information i haven't had anything to drink since may 1969, my
> > neck is red as is the rest of my body as i am an indian, i haven't seen
> > a hippie since the early 70's, so much for hunting them.
> >
> > ****Why, pray tell, are you perpetuating this stereotype?
>
> Republican Conservative, who thinks "Starting Something" you Brainwash Lil
> Brother into Believing then, dump him to become Big Brother Himself, is
> Social Provenance!
>
> ****You got all that from his statement??

On Going Fight, I don't have time to back up for every New Person on the
Block!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

You are a LIAR!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Just Liquor in your hand!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Only Scripts she can write are based on First Hand Experience, not Medical
Training!

[spiritrising]

my pick if i was to make one is jimmie mcmillin, for the rent is too
damn high party.

[spiritrising]

max.it wrote:
> Simpson oil

there are better concentrated oils than that and please don't take his
way of making it to heart it is very dangerous to do it his way, but
come into the clinic here in maceio and will talk it over. but you can
probably get some nutiva which is available just about anywhere. you
have a problem with sleeping or a problem with cancer?

[spiritrising]

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
>
>

that is what you think, i deliver atleast two babies a week here, and i
am not a midwife, yes i am an md. we have a great breastfeeding clinic
on saturdays, you should come and visit.

[spiritrising]

no alcohol of any type in my house, i don't allow it not even the
rubbing variety

[conway caine]

"Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message

news:_ZydncOcbOxPRLTN...@posted.gcicommunications...

conway caine wrote:

> > for your information i haven't had anything to drink since may 1969, my
> > neck is red as is the rest of my body as i am an indian, i haven't seen
> > a hippie since the early 70's, so much for hunting them.
> >
> > ****Why, pray tell, are you perpetuating this stereotype?
>
> Republican Conservative, who thinks "Starting Something" you Brainwash Lil
> Brother into Believing then, dump him to become Big Brother Himself, is
> Social Provenance!
>
> ****You got all that from his statement??

On Going Fight, I don't have time to back up for every New Person on the
Block!

****Not a new kid on the block.
An old kid returning to the block.

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

"Extreme Right, Liberal Left, CONSERVATIVE MIDDLE", was what I was Taught!
You want to Play Middle of the Road pitting the extremes against themselves, don't
blame me, when GOD, spits you out!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

spiritrising wrote:

> max.it wrote:
> > Simpson oil
>
> there are better concentrated oils

Better NATURAL HERBAGE, than Any Man Made Chemicals of Tinctures!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

spiritrising wrote:

> Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> >
> >
> > "max.it" wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:02:42 -0600, spiritrising
> >> <miketwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> not a single medicine in my cabinet, but plenty in my bag as i do hand
> >>> them out or write a script, i don't even use aspirin. try again
> >>
> >> Can you perscribe Simpson oil?
> >
> > Only Scripts she can write are based on First Hand Experience, not Medical
> > Training!
> >
>
> that is what you think,

YEP!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Not what you said, lil Surfer Dud!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

conway caine wrote:

> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message

>

> conway caine wrote:
>
> > > for your information i haven't had anything to drink since may 1969, my
> > > neck is red as is the rest of my body as i am an indian, i haven't seen
> > > a hippie since the early 70's, so much for hunting them.
> > >
> > > ****Why, pray tell, are you perpetuating this stereotype?
> >
> > Republican Conservative, who thinks "Starting Something" you Brainwash Lil
> > Brother into Believing then, dump him to become Big Brother Himself, is
> > Social Provenance!
> >
> > ****You got all that from his statement??
>
> On Going Fight, I don't have time to back up for every New Person on the
> Block!
>
> ****Not a new kid on the block.
> An old kid returning to the block.

Then you know I don't talk to the People Here, rather the Black Water Hackers so
I can get the DOJ's Attention!
Which is why Some Assault me, cause they are the People I am Talking To.
Some Don't Understand what I am Talking About What so Ever, and side with the
"Willfully Blind"!
Some "SEE", what I Mean!

[Tom]

On Aug 15, 5:37 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"

<laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
> Some "SEE", what I Mean!

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You'd be better off staying with your own kind. Stick to posting on
soc.penpals

[%]

now i'll post here all the time how do you like that

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

No, Thanks you and your friends Stink, someone needs to do your Laundry.

[%]

hi boner

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Long as your not some Witch Hunting KOOK "BASHER" who thinks Posting
"SPAM" and Viruses to Assault Fellowship is Kewl!
People need all the Help they can Get!
To Many Chef's spoiling the Meal in this Kitchen!

[spiritrising]

jimmie is middle??? when did that start? whats a god? oh shit i almost
forgot, i am that i am

[spiritrising]

now if you only had more than a monkey brain you would have something

[spiritrising]

put up or shut up i have never surfed either, the water in the states
has always been to polluted to go in to me.

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

"%" wrote:

> hi boner
>
> Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:

ME?
NO!
I am I, not a Sock!
Azure my be a Nym, but I Maintain that Nym and Only That Nym, have for a
few Years Now!
They had me Change a Couple Times, because of their Hacker/Virus Attacks.
That was when I started Tracking the Hunters!

>
> > No, Thanks you and your friends Stink, someone needs to do your
> > Laundry.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom wrote:

TOM, has a few Nyms I have encountered!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

American Civil War!
The Reason the KKK and Deep South are Considered Democratic States, is because LINCOLN,
was a Republican!
Who won the War!
"BIBLE BELTER'S", if ya can't beat em, Join Em!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Raphiem, playing Laser Mouse, with Pussy Cats, and lil Kitty, still don't get it!
FENRIS is the one holding point!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

GOING TO THE BEACH WITH A MIE TY(?), IN YOUR HAND!
NEED THE POST?
Or can you ADMIT, You, said such?

[spiritrising]

jimmie was alive during the civil war? wow, bless his little heart, now
i have to vote for him if that is true.

[spiritrising]

maybe you should look at some pictures of the beaches i go to, first
very little high surf, very few storms that cause surf, and the girls
dress funny.i think your confusing kokomo beach in brazil with the
states. now the beach boys did sing a song about beaches but copacabana
and ipanema are here in brazil not the states.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vrPgQMqMhs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_5_AD9wXuY

and it hasn't changed much from the 60's here.

and those beaches are farther north, here in our little beach town, its
a little more like a fun all week in the first video below everything on
the left is beach and it goes for miles, personally i like sao miquel
dos milagres area better, but that's just me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFHWaoAgHm4&feature=related

but don't worry be happy, i'll have another drink and think of you in
your stuffy little world while i relax in the sun. must be a sad life to
live the way you do......i just don't know how people can live that way.
but believe me when i go out into the bush i really need to unwind at
the beach, especially after being up to my neck in swamp water and
leeches. the last tribe i visited in xingu called the kamayura even you
would want a little relax time, especially after they deliver dinner to
you ....a big basket of bugs, or maybe waking up to a spider bigger than
your hand walking softly across your bed, or maybe some monkey that has
been thrown in a fire for breakfast. you figure it out, i am too busy
relaxing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3fPjKlUNh4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vrPgQMqMhs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2-cZ4RNav0&feature=related

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Your Post you Reply to there, I said Nothing of Jimmy!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

No!
I don't give a DAMN, what Beach you hang on, you said You Went with a Drink IN YOUR HAND, now call ME
a LIAR, claiming you never said such!

[spiritrising]

you replied:
American Civil War!

go figure you can't read your own shit

[spiritrising]

i didn't go with a drink in my hand, they serve them at the beach. now
i'll call you a liar, but even worse just a dumb bitch who can't figure
that out by yourself. your the one who added in my hand! lol

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

No, you haven't a Clue to Life!
I said the Reason the Deep South is Democratic is Because Lincoln was a Republican!
Slow down on the Booze!
Carter as I recall was a Dem!
From Georgia!
Not attacking him though, he did better than Bush!
But it Seems the Bigoted Extremists, started with Dem's, and has invaded and taken Over the
Publicans!
To the Point there is no real 2 Party System, just one big circle jerk!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

YOU, Said YOU DID!