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Michael Martin

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Apr 1, 2008, 9:29:40 PM4/1/08
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I just noticed that my person has become the subject of discussion in
here.

Yes, I am the Michael Martin who is linked to TaraWatch. I am a
spiritual Atheist but cultural Pagan/Heathen and therefore have some
links to Pagan/Heathen groups in Ireland and other countries. But I am
not a spokesperson for or leader of any Druid groups, including those
groups affiliated to Con Connor and Michael McGrath. My political
leanings are to the right. I usually describe myself as a conservative
libertarian and a constitutionalist. I am an individualist and abhor
all collectivist/dictatorial concepts, Communism and Nazism/Fascism
included. I am a strong (secular) supporter of Israel , and my strong
opposition to left wing/marxist anti-jewish viewpoints being embraced
by the regulars on and administrators of Indymedia.ie are part of the
problems I have with that particular site.
In regards to my nationality, well, you are both correct. I am a mix
of German, Swiss (German-speaking Swiss) and Irish as well.
I hope this small introduction will clear up all existing confusion
about my person and affiliations to various groups and causes.

This is my one and only statement I am going to make about myself in
here. I will NOT reply to ANY friendly or hostile messages posted to
this thread.

Michael Martin

Michael Martin

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On Apr 2, 2:29 am, Michael Martin <NVN_Oth...@yahoo.com> wrote:


P.S. NVN_O...@yahoo.com is the only E-mail address I am using when
posting to alt.religion.druid. Anything signed with my name but
coming from different E-mail addresses has not been posted by me.

Michael Martin

Jim

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"Michael Martin" <NVN_O...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I just noticed that my person has become the subject of discussion in
> here.
>
> Yes, I am the Michael Martin who is linked to TaraWatch. I am a
> spiritual Atheist but cultural Pagan/Heathen and therefore have some
> links to Pagan/Heathen groups in Ireland and other countries. But I am
> not a spokesperson for or leader of any Druid groups, including those
> groups affiliated to Con Connor and Michael McGrath. My political
> leanings are to the right. I usually describe myself as a conservative
> libertarian and a constitutionalist. I am an individualist and abhor
> all collectivist/dictatorial concepts, Communism and Nazism/Fascism
> included. I am a strong (secular) supporter of Israel

For whom the U.S. treasury is being depleated and our boys are dying.

They start the fight and we do the suffering and paying at the gas pump.

Jim

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"Michael Martin" <NVN_O...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I just noticed that my person has become the subject of discussion in
> here.
>
> Yes, I am the Michael Martin who is linked to TaraWatch. I am a
> spiritual Atheist but cultural Pagan/Heathen and therefore have some
> links to Pagan/Heathen groups in Ireland and other countries. But I am
> not a spokesperson for or leader of any Druid groups, including those
> groups affiliated to Con Connor and Michael McGrath. My political
> leanings are to the right. I usually describe myself as a conservative
> libertarian and a constitutionalist. I am an individualist and abhor
> all collectivist/dictatorial concepts, Communism and Nazism/Fascism
> included. I am a strong (secular) supporter of Israel

Israel is a fascist country in that it manifests aggressive nationalism. It
is racist
towards many, especially the Arabic people who many of it's citizens call
"sand niggers".

Another sign of their fascism is their opposition of any and all criticism
which they dub as
to be Anti Semitic.

The Germans were fascists, but they are surely not alone in that area.

If there is anything to reincarnation I want to come back next time as a
member of a race/culture that declares itself to be entirely above reproach
and questioning.

This time around I am Irish and American Indian and subject to racist
remarks any time an asshole so desires to sling them.

Just a thought.

:-)

Cormac Mac Carthaigh

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Apr 2, 2008, 11:05:06 PM4/2/08
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On Apr 3, 12:54 am, "Jim" <stonelo...@softcom.net> wrote:
> "Michael Martin" <NVN_Oth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > Michael Martin- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, Herr Martin, since you arrived in Ireland from the Saar region of
Germany, you have infiltrated many campaigns and injected you pro
Zionist agenda as best you could until such time as you were spotted
and asked to leave.

It was not surprising to see you infiltrate the Tara camp, in fact it
was expected and you were watched from the time you arrived. Your
attempts to bully away the more sensitive souls and influence the more
gullible to follow a violent path that would allow the authorities to
implement a crackdown were predictable and fruitless.

Feeling aggrieved at your failure to lead the camp into violent action
and finding yourself ejected back to your lair in Delgany, it is on
the internet we find you again. I have noted your barring from
Indymedia for continual trolling and your attacks on Con Connors
daughter, who runs one of the Tara websites. You alleged she was in
the pay of the National Roads Authority, which she is not. You alleged
she was a 'politico' and a Marxist of some sort. She is neither. This
attack on a young woman is typical of your attacks on women over the
internet.

For instance, you ran a campaign of intimidation and abuse against the
writer and farmer Nissa Annakindt a few years ago. Those interested
can read her summary of your attacks here:

http://ninevirtues.blogspot.com/search?q=michael

I'm sure Nissa will be glad to forward full details to anyone
contacting her as she did to me but in the interests of brevity I will
not list them here.

I understand you support Israel but wonder why? Your dream was at one
time to lead a group of people to Africa where you could take some
land and live as 'Heathens'. Have you given up this folly and if not
which African Nation do you intend to invade and sieze territory frpm?
You would have to steal land with weapons, just like Israel did. Is
that why you support Israel? Perhaps they would sponsor you to invade
Sudan and steal some oil rich land from its Muslim government. It
would mirror what they have been doing in Darfur for years with other
surrogate troublemakers.

Your profile on Dublin.ie forums, is further evidence of your violent
Zionist tendencies.

http://www.dublin.ie/forums/showthread.php?t=1071

You use the name, "LLF-M.M." and a profile picture from the site,
"Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership, Inc", whose site is
here:

http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/livefree.htm

You methods are as simplistic and transparent as your ideology. A year
ago you started a smear campign about the campaign to save Tara where
you alleged there was a 'paedophile' in their midst. You were to name
the culprit at some time but you never did. The purpose was to cast a
cloud of suspicion over the entire campaing and to smear it and
demoralise those supporting it. And you accused Cons daughter of
working for the National Roads Authority? By the fruit do we know the
tree!

It is also interesting to those on this forum that another mouthpiece
of you 'paedophile' allegations was a certain Michael McGrath, with
whom you share a certain right wing viewpoint. What a small world it
is for you right-wingers! Is your director, Mr Vincent Salafia
(O'Toole) going with you to Africa? I do hope so.

I think you can best be summed up in the words of one of your victims
Nissa Annakindt:

"It's really frightening to know that some one who claims to be Asatru
can be so obsessed with spite against some one that he would carry on
in this way. And how can one defend one's good name against slanders
from some one determined to follow you all over the internet to attack
you to all your contacts???"

Michael Martin

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On Apr 2, 11:43 pm, "Jim" <stonelo...@softcom.net> wrote:

> For whom the U.S. treasury is being depleated and our boys are dying.
>
> They start the fight and we do the suffering and paying at the gas pump.
>


Hi Jim,

I do agree with you on the foreign aid and war issue. Nothing
whatsoever has been written into the U.S. Constitution allowing or
demanding U.S. funds being used to support foreign countries. Neither
is there a Constitutional obligation on the U.S. government to get
involved in foreign wars .Not to mention the fact that the legality of
the 16th Amendment which enables the IRS to impose taxes on U.S.
citizens is highly questionable.

But why single out foreign aid going to Israel? Israel has always been
a strong ally and good friend to the U.S. and any other western
country. Wouldn't it be more to the point to cut foreign aid to
certain semi-fascist military regimes in South America, Africa and
Asia? Or how many U.S. dollars are being pumped into communist China,
a country with an apalling human rights record? Wouldn't it make more
sense ceasing all support for China (and to boycott the upcoming
Beijing games), then pointing the finger at Israel, the only
democratic state in the entire middle east?

Michael Martin

Jim

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"Michael Martin" <NVN_O...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Hi Jim,

Michael Martin

For openers, what I am trying to say is the World Trade Center was destroyed
because of our financial and moral support for Israel. The state of Israel
is illicit to say the least. If the Jewish peoples have a legal right to
take over Arab lands then the American Indians should have the right to take
over the American lands.

Just a thought.


Michael Martin

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Apr 8, 2008, 6:58:41 AM4/8/08
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On Apr 7, 10:19 pm, "Jim" <stonelo...@softcom.net> wrote:

> For openers, what I am trying to say is the World Trade Center was destroyed
> because of our financial and moral support for Israel. The state of Israel
> is illicit to say the least. If the Jewish peoples have a legal right to
> take over Arab lands then the American Indians should have the right to take
> over the American lands.
>
> Just a thought.


If the WTC attacks happened because of America's close ties to Israel,
then this reminds me of primitive school yard bullyboy tactics, with
somebody else dictating who can be your friend and who can't. If this
is the case, then it makes me even more determined to stand with
Israel.

Michael Martin

Jim

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"Michael Martin" <NVN_O...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Michael Martin

Yeah! Fuck them Arabs, who the hell do they think they are anyway.

Right?


Jim

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"Michael Martin" <NVN_O...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Michael Martin

I can only suppose that anthropocentrism is a basic element of you personal
world view as well.

????


Michael Martin

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Apr 8, 2008, 1:01:24 PM4/8/08
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On Apr 8, 4:39 pm, "Jim" <stonelo...@softcom.net> wrote:
>
> I can only suppose that anthropocentrism is a basic element of you personal
> world view as well.
>
> ????

No, not at all. I believe that humans are part o and subject to
natural law as any other living species. neither above nor outside the
natural circle.

Michael Martin

Jim

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"Michael Martin" <NVN_O...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Michael Martin


You are one of the very few who can comprehend this.

It takes one with either innate wisdom or a willingness to consider logic.

Good man!!!!

However I notice you did not respond to the American Indians having as much
rights to their homeland as the Jews to what they claim as theirs.


Michael Martin

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On Apr 8, 6:45 pm, "Jim" <stonelo...@softcom.net> wrote:
>
> However I notice you did not respond to the American Indians having as much
> rights to their homeland as the Jews to what they claim as theirs.

Ties in almost with the States' Rights debate and the 10th Amendment.
I have no problem granting ethnic minorities, and that includes
American Indians, the right to self-rule within the frame-work of a
constitutional Free State concept. But I would not accept ( forced)
removal of members of other ethnic groups living or willing to live in
that particular area.

Most Israelis (Jews) never had a problem with sharing a country with
Arabs. But it was the Arabs who violently objected to jewish settlers
coming to Palestine. And at the partition, most fertile lands were
given to the Arabs, and the Jews received mostly wasteland,land
useless to the Arabs in the first place. But the Jews made the desert
flower, and now these Arabs, whipped up by religious fanatics in Iran,
are begrudging them the success, using terrorist tactics to drive the
Jews out of their rightful homeland.
I am quite critical of many aspects of jewish culture, but in this
case it's clearly the jewish people, and in particular the Israeli
citizens, who are holding the moral high ground.

Michael Martin


Jim

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"Michael Martin" <NVN_O...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 8, 6:45 pm, "Jim" <stonelo...@softcom.net> wrote:
>
> However I notice you did not respond to the American Indians having as
> much
> rights to their homeland as the Jews to what they claim as theirs.

Ties in almost with the States' Rights debate and the 10th Amendment.
I have no problem granting ethnic minorities, and that includes
American Indians, the right to self-rule within the frame-work of a
constitutional Free State concept. But I would not accept ( forced)
removal of members of other ethnic groups living or willing to live in
that particular area.

The fact is America is Indian country!!!!

There is more than self rule involved here.

Most Israelis (Jews) never had a problem with sharing a country with
Arabs. But it was the Arabs who violently objected to jewish settlers
coming to Palestine. And at the partition, most fertile lands were
given to the Arabs, and the Jews received mostly wasteland,land
useless to the Arabs in the first place. But the Jews made the desert
flower, and now these Arabs, whipped up by religious fanatics in Iran,
are begrudging them the success, using terrorist tactics to drive the
Jews out of their rightful homeland.

What are the Palistinians? Chopped Liver?


I am quite critical of many aspects of jewish culture, but in this
case it's clearly the jewish people, and in particular the Israeli
citizens, who are holding the moral high ground.

Michael Martin

The chosen few.

Michael Martin

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On Apr 8, 9:49 pm, "Jim" <stonelo...@softcom.net> wrote:
>
> The fact is America is Indian country!!!!
>
> There is more than self rule involved here.
>
Yes, but we have to face reality here. Otherwise we have to ship the
whites back to Europe and the Blacks back to Africa.......... Not to
mention that the Cherokee people may then not be allowed to enter
Apache territory, etc, etc, etc.
But where do those go of mixed heritage, let's say part Indian and
part black, white, Asian or Hispanic?
And most of those people nowadays known as native Americans are mostly
descendants of people who arrived from Europe, Asia, Africa and the
middle east since the last ice age right up to just before the arrival
of Christopher Columbus. Why should these people of European/African/
Asian descend have more rights to stay in North America than those who
arrived after 1498?

> What are the Palistinians? Chopped Liver?

A politically correct fantasy. Check
http://www.masada2000.org/been-had.html

Michael Martin
>

Jim

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"Michael Martin" <NVN_O...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 8, 9:49 pm, "Jim" <stonelo...@softcom.net> wrote:
>
> The fact is America is Indian country!!!!
>
> There is more than self rule involved here.
>
Yes, but we have to face reality here. Otherwise we have to ship the
whites back to Europe and the Blacks back to Africa.......... Not to
mention that the Cherokee people may then not be allowed to enter
Apache territory, etc, etc, etc.
But where do those go of mixed heritage, let's say part Indian and
part black, white, Asian or Hispanic?
And most of those people nowadays known as native Americans are mostly
descendants of people who arrived from Europe, Asia, Africa and the
middle east since the last ice age right up to just before the arrival
of Christopher Columbus. Why should these people of European/African/
Asian descend have more rights to stay in North America than those who
arrived after 1498?

The Indians are in concentration camps now, just like the Palestinians.

> What are the Palestinians? Chopped Liver?

cons...@gmail.com

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Apr 9, 2008, 10:20:53 AM4/9/08
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This is not about McGrath fake druid, this appears to be about Michael
Martin attacking my daughter and I with false and outrageous
allegations that I am working for the NRA, Meath Co Co, the Gardai and
the Church of Scientology. Michael Martin is a well-known right wing
bully who often carries out campaigns of Internet intimidation
especially against women (in this case my daughter) and pagans.
Michael Martin is the current sidekick of Vincent Salafia, both
individuals use these fake names in public. Like McGrath fake druid,
Michael Martin (fake name) will often post under different profiles
and make up any outrageous allegations that he presumes will cause me
to loose face. Fake solicitors causing infighting and directing known
fascists to cause divisions are the dark and vicious actions of agent
provocateurs. Lies, slander, libel and defamation against my person
and family by the agents of the destroyers of Tara tells me that in my
own little way that I am having some success in exposing their agents
and agenda.

Michael Martin - Banned Forums List
www.savetara.com
www.indymedia.ie
www.savetaravalley.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UCCFECC/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/belfastpagans/
http://www.fainne.net/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/queerpaganslivinginireland/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corkpagans/
http://ninevirtues.blogspot.com/search?q=michael

If Michael Martin, spokesperson and moderator for Vincent Salafia
(fake name - real name = Michael O'Toole) is banned from your forum
and not listed here please add to this list.

Michael Martin is telling lies - perhaps he cannot help it.


cons...@gmail.com

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face reality

cons...@gmail.com

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What a nastly little right wing bully - Michael Martin was banned from
http://www.savetaravalley.com because he is a disruptive energy. He
chooses ARD and Tarawatch to make his attacks against me but he is
running around with his trousers down and his little IP hanging out.
My daughter never posts on ARD and neither does Dr Dwyer.

From: "Michael Martin" <NVN_O...@yahoo.com>
To: <in...@druidschool.com>
Cc: <Wickl...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 6:27 PM
Subject: Explanations, please!


Con,

I would like to know why you and your daughter Jessica keep attacking
me over the internet? Remember, I backed you up against McGrath. Last
night I posted article below on the alt.religion.druid group as a
bait for you and/or your daughter. I deliberately wrote in the silly
style of McGrath, repeating some of his silly lies as well. And your
daughter stepped right into my trap, providing me with the final piece
of evidence I needed to link her to the phoney "Cormac Mac Carthaigh"
character. So, why are you and Jessica stabbing me in the back??? What
are the reasons for those constant attacks against my person coming
from your quarter?
I don't want a war with you, Con. But if you and Jessica keep shelling
me, then I will bring that war to your own door step.

So back off!

Michael Martin.

cons...@gmail.com

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face reality

This is my one and only statement I am going to make about myself in
here. I will NOT reply to ANY friendly or hostile messages posted to
this thread. Michael Martin

How many times will you not reply Herr Martin???

Jim

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<cons...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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He thinks like a radical right wing Christian, the way I see it.

Guns and Jesus if ya know what I mean.

Jim


Michael Martin

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On Apr 9, 2:26 pm, "Jim" <stonelo...@softcom.net> wrote:

>
> The Indians are in concentration camps now,


Not just the native Americans, but all the other ethnic groups as
well. America went from freedom to Fascism. In my opinion there are
two ways out of that mess.
1) Creating more Free State Projects. (Those extracts from my writings
about "going to Africa" quoted in here by certain other people are
part of a 'think tank' discussion on FSPs I started two or three years
ago.) The obvious downside of the FSPs is that people will be forced
to uproot themselves from their current homes. And that's one of the
reasons why I put the idea on the backboiler, but haven't given up on
it yet. And yes, Israel can be seen as the modern world's very first
FSP.

The alternative to FSPs is promoting and encouraging what I usually
refer to as "Individualism" and Jeffersonianism. Individualism in
opposition to collectivism, as spearheaded by Ron Paul. Given the
success Paul had with his campaign, in spite of not getting the GOP
nomination, I am at this stage inclined to follow that road rather
than wasting more time on FSPs.

Michael Martin

cons...@gmail.com

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<theartis...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not saying he is right or wrong, good or not - just that in my
> experience with fundies or radical right wing christian types out in
> the bible belt - it would not be an accurate comparison except by
> intensity of opinion.
>
> The "fundies" as we often refer to them are far less educated than he
> is and can not explain how they personally come to their ideas with
> reason, instead they spew a bunch of nonsensical bible quotes that are
> utterly usless to the conversation. As well as promoting Jeffersonian
> ideals, as Jefferson is highly connected with that religion.
>
> I can't at all claim to agree with him all et all on every thing posed
> on this thread - but trust me there is lot of truth that can be found
> in what he says through research.

Like his claim that the Israles are taking the high road with the
Palestinians????


>
> There are documentary type films :From Freedom to Fascism, and such
> that are worth reviewing even if in the end you don't agree.
>
> Many poles themselves seem to show, as well as many Americans fear -
> that we are on the edge of a civil war between classes. (the elections
> support these ideas to many)
>
> America needs to work out its internal issues first - my opinion.
> Sometimes I muse over the idea that the WT C was not so much the
> playground bully analogy posed- but more like what the KKK do to
> provoke ethnic riots. They provoked us and the US went in and helped
> their propaganda, not purposefully - but with all the nasty stuff that
> happened and is happening - well it is just to messy.
>
>
>> > <consmi...@gmail.com> wrote in message


>>
>> > He thinks like a radical right wing Christian, the way I see it.
>>
>> > Guns and Jesus if ya know what I mean.
>>

>> No, more like a Unitarian Universalist.
>>
>> Reason and reasearch if ya know what I mean.
>>
>> Bren
>


Jim

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<theartis...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> You should understand that states rights are a key issue with American
> Indians. The states have failed over and over to represent them,
> infact it was not till Carter they officially gained the rights of
> their religion back. FYI they were given self rule under many treaties
> on their own lands and then on reservations- not that they ever fully
> got it. Not forgetting they had it before being oppressed by the
> American government. Further they have a right to enforce the terms of
> their treaties.
>
> It is quite disconcerting that you use such phrases as - I have no
> problem granting, I would not accept , who flippin cares - this is
> frighteningly egocentric.
>
> American Indians under fear of being separated from their children and
> cited by state officials as negligent parents, went to state hospitals
> to have babies- only to suffer having their children neglected and
> tubes tied or parts removed against their will. Some states were far
> worse than others - so clearly state rights would not serve to aid
> them. Especially states that can profit from mining on the
> reservation.
>
> If you want to learn more you can read up on Rosebud, AIM, and wounded
> knee. Read 'Mary Crow Dog' and 'The Education of Little Tree' for a
> start. This is one area you need to more info on- even if you come to
> the same dualities.
>
> And curiously what the hay is with the -

>
> Not to mention that the Cherokee people may then not be allowed to
> enter Apache territory-
>
> The Apache were not an eastern band, nor are the Cherokee
> reservations on what was Apache territory.
>
> And the Apache fierce as they were would never have waged against
> them. The Cherokee Nation was far too large, too far away.
>
> Some reservations are doing well and would not refer to their land or
> situation as a concentration camp. Specifically my relatives on the NC
> Cherokee Reservation.
>
> You may also be interested in knowing many Americans who chose to be
> conscientious objectors to WW2 were placed in forced labor camps with
> POW's during the war - no matter color or religion. Now they are
> trying to change the laws on that status so that if a draft is put
> back in place it wont be an opt out of being a soldier. Again - we
> have internal issues and don't need to be at war.
>
>
> Ugh- well that is all the Merikan yak I am going to throw in. As
> American issues came up so much in this thread- I thought I would
> share some views of mine and others here. I try to be unbiased.
>
>
>
> May we all be blessed and bathed in Truth!

You are pritty well up on your history.

We did our thing no matter what in private before the American Indian
Religious Freedom Act became law. :-)

The education of little tree does spell it out. One of my favorite stories,
although I hear the author was a fundie.

My mom was born on the rez in what was then called the Indian Territioy.

Jim


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Jim

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<theartis...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Well I hope that got you the free college education, before it was
pulled.

My immediate family is not from the Rez, that ended three generations
back with some marriages as the direct line goes all and all. My
grandfather was a mason of Scottish ancestory who married a woman of
Irish and Cherokee ancestory. He made a huge point the generations
follow to 'pass' , as they say, and never mentioned native blood just
to get them further along. Though some members have married back to
the Res.

The last full blood in my direst family married an Irish woman whos family
were working building a railroad across north Texas.. Both cultures were
considered sub human in those days. Late eighteen hundreds.

A lot of Scots and Irish married Cherokees as was portraid in the education
of little tree.

The Irish and North American Indians are quite compatable in so many ways.

I keep peeking in on the druid posts hoping to see more on Druidry!!
LOL

This is no place to discuss Druidry!!!!


I don't get all this mental and political stew that is always brewing
- know I don't want to.

Neo's!


The internet is a good reprieve from being in the bible belt.- well
often anyway.

I went to a metaphysical store yesterday and they didn't even know
what a censor was when I asked about charcoals for them- so you see
even the pagan areas here are a bit on the fluffy and under researched
side.


I even would rather learn from Irish sources and such - but what a
stew of a storm- I would rather keep my toes out of.

There are many worth learning from but none of them post here.

Slán,
Bren


Gemeral Sam

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Apr 15, 2008, 7:53:53 AM4/15/08
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On Apr 3, 12:54 am, "Jim" <stonelo...@softcom.net> wrote:
> "Michael Martin" <NVN_Oth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:611c8bb2-bb87-4936...@i36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I just noticed that my person has become the subject of discussion in
> > here.
>
> > Yes, I am the Michael Martin who is linked to TaraWatch. I am a
> > spiritual Atheist but cultural Pagan/Heathen  and therefore have some
> > links to Pagan/Heathen groups in Ireland and other countries. But I am
> > not a spokesperson for or leader of any Druid groups, including those
> > groups affiliated to Con Connor and Michael McGrath.  My political
> > leanings are to the right. I usually describe myself as a conservative
> > libertarian and a constitutionalist. I am an individualist and abhor
> > all collectivist/dictatorial concepts, Communism and Nazism/Fascism
> > included. I am a strong (secular) supporter of Israel
>
> Israel is a fascist country in that it manifests aggressive nationalism. It
> is racist
> towards many, especially the Arabic people who many of it's citizens call
> "sand niggers".
>
> Another sign of their fascism is their opposition of any and all criticism
> which they dub as
> to be Anti Semitic.
>
> The Germans were fascists, but they are surely not alone in that area.
>
> If there is anything to reincarnation I want to come back next time as a
> member of a race/culture that declares itself to be entirely above reproach
> and questioning.
>
> This time around I am Irish and American Indian and subject to racist
> remarks any time an asshole so desires to sling them.
>
> Just a thought.
>
>      :-)
>
>  , and my strong
>
>
>
> > opposition to  left wing/marxist anti-jewish viewpoints being embraced
> > by the regulars on and administrators of Indymedia.ie are part of the
> > problems I have with that particular site.
> > In regards to my nationality, well, you are both correct. I am a mix
> > of German, Swiss (German-speaking Swiss) and Irish as well.
> > I hope this small introduction will clear up all existing confusion
> > about my person and affiliations to various groups and causes.

>
> > This is my one and only statement I am going to make about myself in
> > here. I will NOT reply to ANY friendly or hostile messages posted to
> > this thread.
>
> > Michael Martin- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Words of Wisdom.

Gemeral Sam

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Apr 15, 2008, 7:57:31 AM4/15/08
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On Apr 3, 4:05 am, Cormac Mac Carthaigh <guydecerv...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Yes, Herr Martin, since you arrived in Ireland from the Saar region of
> Germany, you have infiltrated many campaigns and injected you pro
> Zionist agenda as best you could until such time as you were spotted
> and asked to leave.
>
> It was not surprising to see you infiltrate the Tara camp, in fact it
> was expected and you were watched from the time you arrived. Your
> attempts to bully away the more sensitive souls and influence the more
> gullible to follow a violent path that would allow the authorities to
> implement a crackdown were predictable and fruitless.
>
> Feeling aggrieved at your failure to lead the camp into violent action
> and finding yourself ejected back to your lair in Delgany, it is on
> the internet we find you again. I have noted your barring from
> Indymedia for continual trolling and your attacks on Con Connors
> daughter, who runs one of the Tara websites. You alleged she was in
> the pay of the National Roads Authority, which she is not. You alleged
> she was a 'politico' and a Marxist of some sort. She is neither. This
> attack on a young woman is typical of your attacks on women over the
> internet.
>
> For instance, you ran a campaign of intimidation and abuse against the
> writer and farmer Nissa Annakindt a few years ago. Those interested
> can read her summary of your attacks here:
>
> http://ninevirtues.blogspot.com/search?q=michael
>
> I'm sure Nissa will be glad to forward full details to anyone
> contacting her as she did to me but in the interests of brevity I will
> not list them here.
>
> I understand you support Israel but wonder why? Your dream was at one
> time to lead a group of people to Africa where you could take some
> land and live as 'Heathens'. Have you given up this folly and if not
> which African Nation do you intend to invade and sieze territory frpm?
> You would have to steal land with weapons, just like Israel did. Is
> that why you support Israel? Perhaps they would sponsor you to invade
> Sudan and steal some oil rich land from its Muslim government. It
> would mirror what they have been doing in Darfur for years with other
> surrogate troublemakers.
>
> Your profile on Dublin.ie forums, is further evidence of your violent
> Zionist tendencies.
>
> http://www.dublin.ie/forums/showthread.php?t=1071
>
> You use the name, "LLF-M.M." and a profile picture from the site,
> "Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership, Inc", whose site is
> here:
>
> http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/livefree.htm
>
> You methods are as simplistic and transparent as your ideology. A year
> ago you started a smear campign about the campaign to save Tara where
> you alleged there was a 'paedophile' in their midst. You were to name
> the culprit at some time but you never did. The purpose was to cast a
> cloud of suspicion over the entire campaing and to smear it and
> demoralise those supporting it. And you accused Cons daughter of
> working for the National Roads Authority? By the fruit do we know the
> tree!
>
> It is also interesting to those on this forum that another mouthpiece
> of you 'paedophile' allegations was a certain Michael McGrath, with
> whom you share a certain right wing viewpoint. What a small world it
> is for you right-wingers! Is your director, Mr Vincent Salafia
> (O'Toole) going with you to Africa? I do hope so.
>
> I think you can best be summed up in the words of one of your victims
> Nissa Annakindt:
>
> "It's really frightening to know that some one who claims to be Asatru
> can be so obsessed with spite against some one that he would carry on
> in this way. And how can one defend one's good name against slanders
> from some one determined to follow you all over the internet to attack
> you to all your contacts???"- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Archdruid Michael McGrath of Ireland has never had anything to do with
this Michael Martin, Thankfully.

Mairtin,
Drui Eireannach. ODI.

Gemeral Sam

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Apr 15, 2008, 7:59:57 AM4/15/08
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On Apr 7, 10:19 pm, "Jim" <stonelo...@softcom.net> wrote:
> "Michael Martin" <NVN_Oth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:80b1ab98-f00d-4da5...@p39g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 2, 11:43 pm, "Jim" <stonelo...@softcom.net> wrote:
>
> > For whom the U.S. treasury is being depleated and our boys are dying.
>
> > They start the fight and we do the suffering and paying at the gas pump.
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> I do agree with you on the foreign aid and war issue. Nothing
> whatsoever has been written into  the U.S. Constitution allowing or
> demanding U.S. funds being used to support foreign countries. Neither
> is there a Constitutional obligation on the U.S. government to get
> involved in foreign wars .Not to mention the fact that the legality of
> the 16th Amendment which enables the IRS to impose taxes on U.S.
> citizens is highly questionable.
>
> But why single out foreign aid going to Israel? Israel has always been
> a strong ally and good friend to the U.S. and any other western
> country.  Wouldn't it be more to the point to cut foreign aid to
> certain semi-fascist military regimes in South America, Africa and
> Asia? Or how many U.S. dollars are being pumped into communist China,
> a country with an apalling human rights record? Wouldn't it make more
> sense ceasing all support for China (and to boycott the upcoming
> Beijing games), then pointing the finger at Israel, the only
> democratic state in the entire middle east?
>
> Michael Martin

>
> For openers, what I am trying to say is the World Trade Center was destroyed
> because of our financial and moral support for Israel. The state of Israel
> is illicit to say the least. If the Jewish peoples have a legal right to
> take over Arab lands then the American Indians should have the right to take
> over the American lands.
>
> Just a thought.

More Words of Wisdom.

cons...@gmail.com

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Apr 17, 2008, 6:12:12 PM4/17/08
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There is a lifetime worldwide Geis on Michael McGrath and Associates
(including the silly person Searles the tank maker) in Gaelic,
English, French and German at http://orderofdruidsinireland.wetpaint.com/
Geis on McGrath in French by the World Druid Order at
http://oda.chez-alice.fr/geismgrr.htm
Michael McGrath Druid? Facist? Lunatic? at http://fakedruid.org/
M McGrath fake druid at http://www.druidschool.com/site/1030100/page/887265
Michael McGrath neo-nazi sicko at
http://guydecervens.blogspot.com/2007/05/michael-mcgrath-neo-nazi-and...
'Arch Druid' (Michael McGrath) at http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/apgnhw1.htm
Geis on McGrath in German at http://www.keltia.de/Avalon/Internationale_News/Geis/geis.html#deutsch
McGrath fake druid at http://fakedruid.wetpaint.com
ODIous McGrath at http://orderofdruidsinireland.wetpaint.com/
For details of his most recent postings see ARD
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.druid/topics This is where
the fake druid McGrath is supported by other fake druids who give out
to the victims of McGrath fake druid. The Geis is a lifetime worldwide
ban on McGrath and Associates. It is and will be relentlessly enforced
with determination, persistence and focused intention.

If Michael Martin, spokesperson and moderator for Vincent Salafia

(fake name - real name = Michael O'Toole) is banned from your forum

cons...@gmail.com

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Apr 17, 2008, 6:14:32 PM4/17/08
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Michael McGrath fake druid is mentally sick, perverted and an
alcoholic madman.
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