Druid News
root
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8347541.stm
golwg
Matthew
An Coibhi Drui
Yes, that's good news. The Archdruid of Dublin, Anrai O'Raghallaigh ,
always preached that the Welsh do it well, perhaps with some
shortcomings , I add . Specifically , it is better that one is elected
by one's peers, as is the case in Ireland, rather than by a coterie of
some 22 members ( I think) of the Council of the Gorsedd. It's much
better to be elected by all,, Druids and Pilgrims alike, on Tara - or
at Stonehenge, as Rollo is for instance, by acclamation every year.
It's much better because then when as Archdruid of Wherever, you
speak, you do actually represent all those who elect you in a real
sense, you know you are speaking for them and you, hopefully, use your
common sense - and wisdom - in representing them and speaking for
them. Of course you will always get the little gnats that bite and
sting, trying to get attention for themselves, using and abusing one
such as an Archdruid as a scapegoat in whatever their own little petty
agenda of their own tiny miniscule ' cause' may be - everybody who was
ever elected gets that ( as the detective in charge of investigation
of abusive phone calls to my sister last night remarked to me here as
we chatted in my sittingroom) . I asked him what makes him tick, what
makes him want to get the job done.. He answered -- Service, that he
regards himself as a servant of the people in the promottion of peace
and the furtherance of law and order, stating, inter alia, that he
thinks the Garda do a better job than other police forces ( especially
the British ! ) as the Garda do not have a bad history as enforcers
for titled masters, but were brought into being by the people in 1924.
Here again you get this Druidic notion of Service, in this case in an
Irish Garda Officer.
But to the great credit of the Welsh Druids they don't take in any
fool who happens along the way - this is what appeals particularly to
Anrai about them - as he says " they run a tight shop ! " in common
sense and dignity and are a positive boon to Wales in promoting the
country, its literature, its history and heritage, and the unique
culture of the Welsh People, and they do it in style based on
tradition, they represent a continuity that they hand on down the
line, and they do it magnificently.
Just as people like Druid Searles O'Dubhainn does , or tries to do,
despite the gnats in America which, I note are foreign imports, all
two of them. And even then putting forward their agenda which in
todays's world is of a tiny miniscule political cult based principally
on Trotskyism, on driving Hatred, Spite, Confusion and Division to try
to get themselves and their absolutely irrelevant agenda noticed,
using prominent Druids as Scapegoats along the way, breaking every Law
known to gods and men along the way that they think that they can get
away with, trampling over every spirituality, Lying, Propagandising,
Smearing, Sneering, Jeering at every hand's turn, no generosity of
spirit, no spirit at all in them - they are already dead men who seek
to murder Druidry !
But hats off to the Welsh Druids, they are achieving more world
recognition for Wales than all else put together, their ceremonial
alone is full of majesty and splendour, they show a great tolerance,
understanding - and charity towards all men and all nations, little
wonder then that the traditional Breton Druids trust themselves to
such sages !
It has been said against them that they have the Queen as their Royal
Patron, that they are ' only' Druid-Bards, that they ignore Druids who
speak only the English language, but they constitute a magnificent
showpiece for Wales, they have all of the main religions - and none !
- in their ranks, they have always enjoyed a special recognition
worldwide ( especially in reland ! ), and for all their perceived
faults - if we go on a nitpicking expedition - they are a huge
success, and give great enjoyment - and cultural education - to the
people, and especially the families of Wales. And they exert a great
moral authority that is respeced far and wide .. Long may they
thrive !
Michael McGrath
Archdruid of Ireland,
Elected, Traditional, Hereditary .
An Coibhi Drui
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Like my ancestors said before me "UP YOURS"!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nazi Bigots like you have no concept of the ways of the Cave Bheare's or
the Calheach Bheare, so yeah I am "Bull SHI'T.
You are an "ANAL RETENTIVE, MOTHER FUCKER"!!!!!!!!!!
Why the Geese left you behind in the dust!
root
> Like my ancestors said before me "UP YOURS"!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Nazi Bigots like you have no concept of the ways of the Cave Bheare's or
> the Calheach Bheare, so yeah I am "Bull SHI'T.
> You are an "ANAL RETENTIVE, MOTHER FUCKER"!!!!!!!!!!
> Why the Geese left you behind in the dust!
I have been to the Bheare peninsula many times.
It is a lovely place, unspoiled by industry.
The Drombeg stone circle is well worth a visit, as are all the bays
and beaches.
Baltimore is a lovely fishing town, and it's worth a trip on the ferry
to go out and see the islands there.
golwg
Matthew
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Different Nick than I replied to!
> >
> > Like my ancestors said before me "UP YOURS"!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > Nazi Bigots like you have no concept of the ways of the Cave Bheare's or
> > the Calheach Bheare, so yeah I am "Bull SHI'T.
> > You are an "ANAL RETENTIVE, MOTHER FUCKER"!!!!!!!!!!
> > Why the Geese left you behind in the dust!
>
> I have been to the Bheare peninsula many times.
SO!!!!!!!!!
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> It is a lovely place, unspoiled by industry.
No such thing, Set and Eshu tried but people would not Listen.
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> The Drombeg stone circle is well worth a visit,
All "Ancient Circles are.
One I drool over is the American Stonehenge, a "Hyksus City,
in "New Hampshire"(?) (East Coast of the United States),
circa 1500 BCE
> as are all the bays
> and beaches.
> Baltimore is a lovely fishing town,
So is the Bateston Area of Nova Scotia
> and it's worth a trip on the ferry
> to go out and see the islands there.
> �
Kinda sorta
> �
> golwg
>
> Matthew
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root
> > I have been to the Bheare peninsula many times.
>
> SO!!!!!!!!!
Not showing off, simply qualifying my subsequent comments as valid and
reliable.
golwg
Matthew
An Coibhi Drui
And welcome anytime and everytime, Matthew !
cheers,
Michael,
AD Ireland.
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
HOW???????????
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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root
When one speaks about something, it is usually required that one has
actually experienced the subject matter to have any credibility.
I could add photographic eveidence of my visits, but I think my
reputation here is good enough to not be labelled as a bullshitter.
Besides, I have no reason to lie about it.
golwg
Matthew
1X2Willows
You bet.
So what was your impression of the Bheare peninsula, spiritually speaking?
root
It's the sort of place that just absorbs all stress and negativity out
of you. Just after a few hours there you will feel noticably more
relaxed and at peace with the world.
The landscape itself is constantly speaking to you, and is
surprisingly friendly (at least it was to me). I felt completely
comfortable and 'at home'.
golwg
Matthew
An Coibhi Drui
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That's not surprising to me, at any rate, as Wales, parts of England
even ( I haven't been much to Scotland) have done the same for me. We
have to remember, just look at the map, that the British Isles are so
tiny , share so much history - good and bad ! - but mostly good in
ancient times when we were virtually the one ' country' under the
Druids, for the Druids were the unifying force that welded the peoples
and tribes together , and made peace whenever they could between our
warring factions and were probably also the cultural and language
unifiers too. Political fall-outs of recent centuries , Anglo-Irish
wars etc have nothing to do with this , and probably would nott have
happened had the Druids survived .
And I have felt this same force even in the very heart of London,
notably around Covent Garden, which is not surprising considering the
ancient history of the place .
Cheers,
Michael .
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
> On 13 Nov, 04:57, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
> <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
> > root wrote:
> > > On 12 Nov, 06:11, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
> > > <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
> > > > root wrote:
> >
> > > > Different Nick than I replied to!
> > > <snip>
> > > > > I have been to the Bheare peninsula many times.
> >
> > > > SO!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > > Not showing off, simply qualifying my subsequent comments as valid and
> > > reliable.
> >
> > HOW???????????
>
> When one speaks about something, it is usually required that one has
> actually experienced the subject matter to have any credibility.
My having Been to New Briton like Ireland has nothing to do with my Descent
from such.
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
I still do not understand how it is relevant.
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Sorry Dud, but if it wasn't for the Scoti and Welsh� Druids "Fighting, the history
would be vastly different.
Thing is Druids believed in I send my Warrior, you send Yours, God Decides the
Ultimate Answer, and the Warriors "SELDOM" were Killed.
Bodkin changed all that.
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root
I guess it's all a bit too real for you.
It all started with you mentioning Bheare.
golwg
Matthew
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
No, it all started with me asserting "My Mother" is an Ursa of the HOUSE OF "The
Great Bheare" of Briton.
The Chieftain of the Ancient Bar Har, Burin Gi, who joined forces with my Fathers
Family the "Pigs" or Doc Alfar, against the Saxon Invasion.
Where you have been in your travels, has no relevance to that topic, what so ever.
Kinda like Drui's German Lessons, they have no bearing on the Degaidh'n teachings
what so ever.
Ain't Dane, as in Denmark, rather Dian, as in Dian Cecht.
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root
Where one has been on one's travels is always of relevance.
golwg
Matthew
Pangur Ban
> Where one has been on one's travels is always of relevance.
>
> golwg
>
> Matthew
Well said, Matthew.
PB
helga...@gmail.com
Let us not spit at one another. The more Druids of all sorts the
better, say I. And he has quite a lovely seat!
helgaleena, not welsh
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Seldom has to do with who someon elses Family is or is not.
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Enjoy your Knowledge, it will get you far.
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
> On Nov 15, 7:11 am, Pangur Ban <pan...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > > Where one has been on one's travels is always of relevance.
> >
> > > golwg
> >
> > > Matthew
> >
> > Well said, Matthew.
> >
> > PB
>
> Let us not spit at one another. The more Druids of all sorts the
> better, say I.
Problem is the Gang is like Evergreen's Gang on Wicca, NOT DRUID, rather
"Atheist's" Gnostic's, who want to prove Druid's are "Kook"!
They even set up Base here.
Show me where Druids are in Celtic History, circa 1500 BCE!!!!!!!!!
Where is Odin or Thor?
Dagda is there, where is Odin or Thor.
Not Dane!
Right!
Boand and Find Started Find's Land!!!!!!!
Not Denmark.
From Find's Land, they did the Exodus, Eric the Red Followed the Legends
of.
Hitler did a Lot of Research, but he was worse than Rome in Slanting it
for Propaganda.
Doesn't mean it is the Absolute Truth, nor does his way's mean the
Aryan's are Absolute Lies.
But Irish History is based on the War between the Red's and the Blondes.
Lict Alfar, Doc Alfar.
Yellow Book of Lecan, the 2 Tribes of Pigs are not the same people, and
had a War to prove it.
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root
This is true. But conversation is not required to stick rigidly to one
particular theme, it is allowed to branch out into other areas, though
those boughs usually originate from somewhere in the trunk.
In other words, it is OK to go off on a tangent, or alternatively
examine one or more aspects in more detail, and perhaps from a
different angle.
This is conversation, this is communication ;)
golwg
Matthew
root
wrote:
Not spitting, just stating what seems obvious to me. Lady Azure seems
heel bent on proving her(his) family family credentials. I say "OK, we
believe you already!" ;)
golwg
Matthew
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
>
> I still do not understand how it is relevant.
*Chuckle* tres amusment, the Baroness whining about relevancy!
--
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky/files/sf_anthem.mp3
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
root wrote:
> Where one has been on one's travels is always of relevance.
>
The azure fog wouldn't know relevancy if it introduced itself in words
of one syllable.
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> "helga...@gmail.com" wrote:
>
>
>>On Nov 15, 7:11 am, Pangur Ban <pan...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>>Where one has been on one's travels is always of relevance.
>>>
>>>>golwg
>>>
>>>>Matthew
>>>
>>>Well said, Matthew.
>>>
>>>PB
>>
>>Let us not spit at one another. The more Druids of all sorts the
>>better, say I.
>
>
> Problem is the Gang is like Evergreen's Gang on Wicca, NOT DRUID, rather
> "Atheist's" Gnostic's, who want to prove Druid's are "Kook"!
And you are the poster boy for not kook?
Byrne.M.James
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I would disagree,
Take Japanese Koryu, the traditional martial arts that Budo evolved
from. They are a minority in Japan never mind in the west and so the
average person has to take their understanding of Japanese Koryu from
books, films and primarily from what they know of Budo. Koryu is not
Budo though, its not structured or even propagated like Budo. People
who have no first hand experiance of Koryu cannot be in a position
where they are able to express an educated opinion of it. They can
talk about Budo and they can talk about outsiders concepts of what
Koryu can and should be but they can never honestly claim to be
practitioners of Koryu.
The same is true of native Irish paganism. Neopaganism is a minority
group of religions in ireland and native paganism is a minority in
neopaganism. Its practitioners arent grouped into groves, they dont
gather in ritual circles, no books are written on the subject and no
lessons are available for interested seekers. Without first hand
experiance that can only be gained by atleast coming to Ireland like
with Koryu the average person is not in a position where they are able
to express an educated opinion of it. They can talk about Druidry or
recon and can express outsiders opinions on what native paganism can
and should be but they can never honestly claim to be practitioners of
native paganism.
No genetics, no communing with deity will magically give you an
insight. So it does matter if youve never been to Ireland. More so
that you take time out of life to shout other peoples opinions down.
James
stonehengeio
An Coibhi Drui
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Good Man, James !
( You're doing your bit for Irish Tourism too :-) )
Cheers,
Michael
An Coibhi Drui
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Are you sure you're not working for The Irish Tourist Board ?
The country could do with Big Spenders from the States right now -
hey, Searles ???
Cheers,
Michael .
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Yep which is my Point Exactly.
Like the Nazi's Legends State
Squirrel Likes to Incite the Eagle to fight with the Serpent wound round the Roots of the
Tree!
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>
> In other words, it is OK to go off on a tangent, or alternatively
> examine one or more aspects in more detail, and perhaps from a
> different angle.
Teachings of Antagonis (Aunt Agnes).
"The Argument, is the source of All Knowledge"
Problem is it turned into a Vamp Teaching, which ignores the truth.
To Antagonis and the Ancient Greeks, the Argument:
"Is not about the words of War, rather 2+2=?", which is the Knock that opens the Kitchen
Door.
> �
>
> This is conversation, this is communication ;)
Yep, and the Basis for the AMERICAN Pledge "WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL".
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
You LIE, and the "Public, does not understand yet"!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
> Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> >
> > I still do not understand how it is relevant.
>
> *Chuckle* tres amusment, the Baroness whining about relevancy!
YES, mR. Nazi Apache!!!!!!!!!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
> root wrote:
> > Where one has been on one's travels is always of relevance.
> >
>
> The azure fog wouldn't know relevancy if it introduced itself in words
> of one syllable.
Do it every day and prove "You", DON'T KNOW SHI'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!
o};-)
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
> Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> > "helga...@gmail.com" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On Nov 15, 7:11 am, Pangur Ban <pan...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>Where one has been on one's travels is always of relevance.
> >>>
> >>>>golwg
> >>>
> >>>>Matthew
> >>>
> >>>Well said, Matthew.
> >>>
> >>>PB
> >>
> >>Let us not spit at one another. The more Druids of all sorts the
> >>better, say I.
> >
> >
> > Problem is the Gang is like Evergreen's Gang on Wicca, NOT DRUID, rather
> > "Atheist's" Gnostic's, who want to prove Druid's are "Kook"!
>
> And you are the poster boy for not kook?
YEP!
Like it or Not!
You on the other hand are a CARD CARRYING,
"KOOK"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
WRONG!!!!!!
Karma, places a Salmon of Knowledge or Bheare of the Arianhod where they are
Needed.
Badb Shi, is Puriel, the "Angel of Judgment"!
Bheares are Gendarme the Long Arm's of the Lle Llaw Gyffyths.
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Yeah, well find yourself the "Toyatomi Hideyoshi" reborn!
Then Tell me.
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An Coibhi Drui
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Wrong!
Genetics of the Hyperboreans is to be the Gods, the Heirs of the Silver Wheel!
Mycenaean's(?) as Homer taught, can reach into the ancient pasts, because as the
Tibetans state, we are the "DESCENDANTS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rev 13:(?) Child of the Cave!!!!!!
People so misunderstand Dagda or Odin, and Damn few understand the Cave Bheare's.
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Something you could not stand Patty doing HUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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An Coibhi Drui
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMlVn1ZwDg&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Byrne.M.James
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The salmon of Knowledge, so do you think your some eternal child deity
like Find born with all the knowledge of the gods? Or do you stick
dogmatically to the artificial narrative and rely on Imbas/inspiration
from a magic fish to learn about native tradition?
I understand why you rely on the Corcu Duibhne to claim some form of
cultural lineage. Its a cop out from someone who wants an easy in but
isnt actually dedicated enough to work honestly towards her goals.
Exploiting Irish heritage is really easy when there are no Irish
people around in 'Celtic Paganism' that might not last forever Id
reconsider your stance.
Lady A the Corcu Duibhne havent existed for a milennium and a half so
unless your family emmigrated back then youre not descended from them,
A more proper designation would be one of the Muscraige peoples if
your family lived in that area. Musc comes from Coirpre Musc the
Husband of Digde/Boi/Bui later the Cultic Caillech Berri.
Thats not as simple as claiming a nebulous lineage from a time before
the written word though, the Corcu Duibhne is a much easier lineage to
claim. Coming from the Muscraige peoples would place your family in
the Musckerry Gaeltacht and they have some specific requirements that
have to be met before you can even live there much less claim to be
part of the people of that place. Its not just a matter of speaking
their dialect of the language which youd be very unlikely to find
outside Ireland. Because they are an area that prides themselves on
preserving and promoting Tradition Irish Culture youd be expected to
embrace every visible facet of Irish culture as well as the traditions
specific to that region. Thats more then a night course in jackeen
Irish will do for you.
Its sad to see exploiters of other cultures still exist in Celtic
Paganism, especially ones who are willing to shout down people from
the culture for their percieved mistakes.
James
Byrne.M.James
Is Patty Saint Patrick?
Youd be on dodgy ground there if it is. The use of the name Saint
Patty just shows a foreign concept of Irish history and culture.
Patrick as an Irish name is correctly abbreviated Paddy, Paddy is not
some slave word comparable to Nigger, its PC madness to infer that it
is and my Uncle Paddy Byrne would agree.
James
root
Chill out bitch, I am not your enemy!
;)
golwg
Matthew
Searles O'Dubhain
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Sorry Michael, but the feds have stolen our money from us and given it
to the banks, the insurance companies and the big corporations. They
did this through the associative law of money magic. The just printed
three times the money that was in circulation and presto! Our money is
worth 1/3 what it was worth. One merely has to look at the price of
gold in dollars to see what has happened.
I'm hoping that it is a mild winter so that we can live off the land
since the government has taken our earnings through their magic
presses.
I'm sending my spare money to Isaac Bonewits nowadays as he needs it.
The hospitals are pumping him full of chemo to kill his cancers.
Hopefully they will succeed without exploding him or exploiting him
too much. I know that a little income would comfort his missus.
I'm hoping to win the lottery like Ned Devine did but also hoping to
survive the shock to my system! :-) We could make a movie about it
called the Impossible Dream.
Searles O'Dubhain
An Coibhi Drui
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Look up the British Bank Charter of 1694, granted to the first bankers
by no less than our old ' friend' , King William of Orange - and trace
The Money Tree from there !
Money -- The Root of All Evil, by Deiirdre Manifold ( a 90-year-old
Galway woman, who wrote a good little book on it all, in fact several
- but spoils it all by dragging Fatima and The Blessed Virgin in all
over the place .
I travelled once by car from Kilkenny to Dublin years ago with Deirdre
Manifold , all iin the car had to put up with her praying alll fifteen
decades of The Rosary over the one and a half hour trip !!! And this
is such a pity , as nobody in the world has such a solid grasp of the
basiis for all the faults ever in the world brought about by what is
an entirely artificially created system where the world financiers
hold the world to eternal debt several times over ! Her principal
book, unfortunately titled ' Fatima and the Great Conspiracy ' , has
that fabulous first chapter, ' Money, The Root of All Evil' that tells
you more than the entire Internet will, in a nutshell, about the
Supra--Capitalist system still imposed on the world since that British
Bank Charter of 1694 .
Look up ' Social Credit' by Major Douglas, look up ' The Guernsey
Experiment' , there is a whole literature in there that describes
simply the world financial system as we inhherited it - and, more
important, the cure ! Did you know, for instance, that this is what
caused Henry Ford 11 to lose his head in anger and support Hitler !
( He wrote the book ' The International Jew ' and also produced a
fabulous newspaper for the times called ' The Dearborn Independent '
which is a veritable mine of information on the international
stockbroking fraternity, basically those who carry on this massive
international frauud, this greatest of swindles ever invented that is
the cause of all the world's misery right into our present times .
The fatal words in that British Bank Charter of 1694, granted by King
William of Orange to a tiny international financial elite, are :
" The Bank hath the power to create money out of nothing and shall
profit by interest thereon . "
The present world financial recession is deliberately created, as you
will see from all of this when you study it, it is not natural, it is
not the way that wealth would grow independently for the good of
mankind if it were not controlled from behind the scenes - really look
into the part played by the Federal Reserve that acts on behalf of the
tiny elite that controls world finance, that brings about world
recessions and depressions to suit their own fortunes, it is a whole
murky world, an underworld, of intrique, deception, smoke screens -
but above all control of governments , who are, as you have long
suspected, simply stooges of these Princes of World Finance .
Cheers,
Michael .
An Coibhi Drui
Just google all those, and in particular Social Credit in Alberta,
Canada, also Social Credit in N..Z. .
And in particular Major C.H.. Douglas - and the best : The Dearborn
Independent/ Henry Ford, also the unfortunately - titled ' The
International Jew ' by Henry Ford ( which is not racist against the
Jewish People, but rather contaiins the Inside Story of how the
bankers such as the Jewish Rothschilds, J.P. Morgan, Chase Manhattan
etc control the USA and World economies, as seen from the Inside by
Henry Ford himself .
An Coibhi Drui
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NB : The Story of Henry Ford is one of the most deliberately
suppressed in twentiieth century American history, by all media,
history books and especially by TV and Hollywood, because they had no
answer to such a multi-billionaire American Big Businessman, probably
the greatest of all time, coming out with the Inside Story, the Truth
about all their money conspiracies and Bankers Control - Ford names
these people whose descendants are in charge of our Great Recession
right now ( they planned it and carry it out ruthlessly against the
people ! ) . Of course he was an Irishman and therefore blunt,
straightforward and to the point ! He was also a caring and
humanitarian employer who put his workers first, and one of the
greatest modern American patriots too .
An Coibhi Drui
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And here it is, on Free Download :
THE INTERNATIONAL JEW by Henry Ford 11 .
Enjoy !
Cheers,
Michael .
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
>
>
> Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
>
> > "helga...@gmail.com" wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 15, 7:11 am, Pangur Ban wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Where one has been on one's travels is always of relevance.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> golwg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Matthew
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Well said, Matthew.
> >>>
> >>> PB
> >>
> >>
> >> Let us not spit at one another. The more Druids of all sorts the
> >> better, say I.
> >
> >
> >
> > Problem is the Gang is like Evergreen's Gang on Wicca, NOT DRUID, rather
> > "Atheist's" Gnostic's, who want to prove Druid's are "Kook"!
>
>
> And you are the poster boy for not kook?
>
You "Madam" are no more a witch than a druid, pagan, new age kook or
any other symbol you might choose to madly wave. At least inso far
"Madam" as you demonstrate anything to us. It is rediculious.
You expect something from nothing.
Cash, gras or ass, no one rides for free:)
By the way, you miasmatic Gray fog, you literal grease of a stain upon
filth, you, i find vaguely amusing:)
I hope you read and comment on, my more recent contribution to this NG.
the poem "Oral Edification."
You are a little bit of it:)
A contributing factor in my decision to post!
No hay nadi como tu?
Searles O'Dubhain
>
> The same is true of native Irish paganism. Neopaganism is a minority
> group of religions in ireland and native paganism is a minority in
> neopaganism. Its practitioners arent grouped into groves, they dont
> gather in ritual circles, no books are written on the subject and no
> lessons are available for interested seekers. Without first hand
> experiance that can only be gained by atleast coming to Ireland like
> with Koryu the average person is not in a position where they are able
> to express an educated opinion of it. They can talk about Druidry or
> recon and can express outsiders opinions on what native paganism can
> and should be but they can never honestly claim to be practitioners of
> native paganism.
>
> No genetics, no communing with deity will magically give you an
> insight. So it does matter if youve never been to Ireland. More so
> that you take time out of life to shout other peoples opinions down.
>
James,
I'm interested in what "coming to Ireland"means. In my experience, one
can be in Ireland without coming to her.OTOH Ireland has her own magic
which is strongest in her formation but is also to be found in her
life and her celebration.
From what I've seen, Ireland vanquishes even the hardest heart. Those
hearts, once converted, carry her message far and wide.
It also seems to me that there are three Irelands:
Coming to Ireland
Being of Ireland
Journeying out of Ireland
Ireland is like the River Bóann. She wells up from the center of the
earth, flows across the land into the sea. She is the roof of heaven
and the river of all rivers. She is one and many. One of her river
forms is hert children and their hearts' blood. Another is her song,
while a third is the twinkle of an eye.
For me she is the darkness beyond the magic of the storyteller's porch
where dreams are shaped and grow in the magic fields of vision and in
the free flowing verse of song. She is indomitable and strong, yet in
ways that a clod cannot tell from a sod.
You are a being in Ireland so I yield to the embrac eof our mother for
you. I am one who is coming to Ireland yet I am also out of Ireland
and making the great circuit of her universe. My herat; my family's
spirit; my hopes and dreams are of Ireland, in Ireland; ebbing and
flowing to and from her, yet always at the same center. What is known
and exists is there. What is unknown and that which does not yet exist
is beyond the ninth wave.
We of the Diaspora are still within nine waves of Ireland's shores.
Some who walk the land are seemingly beyond nine waves. You walk in
Ireland's heart and feel the blood coursing and so I ask you again,
what is "coming to Ireland?"
Searles O'Dubhain
FWIW I'd also like to discuss all of the Irelands with you. I've
walked her ways and met her people through the eyes and words of my
friend "the Donkey Pilgrim" and I'd like to hear and see through your
eyes as well. Until I've dreamed the dream of thousands of years in
the darkness of the family brugh I'd like to sing and live the dreams
of a thousand songs with others.
Searles O'Dubhain
root
It is slang usage to call all Irishmen Paddy.
Welsh are called Taffy (Taffy Jones)
The English are called Limey or Tommy (Tommy Atkins)
Scots are called Jock
Germans & Scandinavians are called Eric
It is also common cockney rhyming slag to call US citizens "Sceptics"
Septic Tank - Yank
golwg
Matthew
stonehengeio
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Byrne.M.James
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Well to be honest Searles I mean coming to Ireland by physically
coming to Ireland. An anthropologist wouldnt do a study of a set of
minority traditions from 10,000 miles away and thats what native
paganism is. Thats assuming native paganism is your thing and not an
historically based Druidry. Modern Druidry itself is less related to
the culture and far more adaptable. People can look to brehon laws,
triads and myths for values and ethics in modern Druidry but native
Paganism is different. The religion doesnt dictate those things the
native culture with its communally understood knowledge and values
dictates them.
To me being of Ireland is being a member of the culture as opposed to
just living here. No blood coursing through your veins will make you
Irish even if you live here aslong as youre not a member of the
culture.
Journeying out of Ireland I dunno Ive never considered it before. I
found living abroad for a few years essential to learning about native
culture. Its a woods for the trees situation.
Journeying automatically brings up Imramma and all its implications,
though imramma outside Ireland I dunno about. Even at its most literal
the imramma to the otherworld, the otherworld is a part of Ireland and
in the more complex form Ive seen it explained in writing by Eblanna
Raven it involves a balance of self, self in the land and self in the
otherworld... so I dunno what journeying out of Ireland means to me.
I know its kind of harsh but youd get the same response from native
paganism everywhere. I was talking to a girl complaining that
polynesians wont teach her about their native religion unless she
moves there and marries one of their sons. Thats their culture, you
have to prove youre genuine and moving to the community there is a
minimum requirement.
The internet can break down boundries but it is a thin illusion of
communication, its nothing like meeting someone in person. So much of
communication thats necessary is missing. A physical presence is just
a basic requirement of communication.
James
helga...@gmail.com
I certainly don't want any of you lot leaping down my wires at me!
helgaleena
An Coibhi Drui
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
I Don't care for your LINKS, TY.
I read posts, I do not follow Links, and or want to play with the Cookie Monster.
You wanna say what is on your mind go for it, I find Interest I will Research it.
But you want me to be a fool and open live links, I got Assassins on my ass, I ain't
that stupid.
Especially where you got friends like BOB and Carol or Littleshoes.
You wanna be Celtic, go for it, you win.
But Celtic started in Ireland circa 300 BCE.
When the Anglo Saxons came they forced the locals out.
The Norman's and Britons who came at them were "As Claimed" the Original Inhabitants of
the place.
Scoti, Gaelic, the "MIL"S", trace their history in Ireland back to circa 1500 BCE.
The Cave Bear is about the "Oldest Known Legend on Earth and "BELONGS TO" the
Welsh/Britons.
Why the place we are alleged to be the Protectorates of, is called the Cave of OG.
You and your friends can't stop with the Drui, you gotta take on the the Great Bheare of
the Frost Hoar of the Og.
Why!
You just can't get it:
Gog is the Protectorate of the Gate to Heaven "Bheare to the Cave", the
Hyperborean's.
Magog is the Foo Dogs of the Achi, Guardians of the Citadel, the RED,
"Hounds of Hel"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
History "Documents" the Fact that the Drui began a Decline circa 300 BCE and pretty much
Disappeared by circa 200 AD.
Celtic's and Saxons therefore are NOT Drui.
You wanna talk Drui then you must accept the Faithe.
But you and your friends "Persecute" the Faithe, and Insult� Clanna ways and History.
Just a Neo Chrome Dome, that don't know Shi't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
My Name in the Books!
Try Numbers 13: I am the Descendant of Nun, the Fish Guy who walks in and out of the
Citadel.
I am the Y'O'Shua!!!!!!
The Descendant of the Ass, the Pale Rider who talks of his Name and being Uir of� the
Green Buddha,� Rama and Sita, the Dol Lamha, Mor, Moab, Lugh, Nemedia, Gia and
Ptah.....................................
Ard to the Cave Bheare, Tonn of the Harvest, the Pea of the Vine, Fruit of the Great
Tree.........................................
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
No,� people of his Parish, an Insult, just as much as the "Waerin o the Green"!
Mine is the House of Lotus, the Blue Guy who Carried the Severed Head and made Wine from
the Blood of his Enemies, which St. Patrick "Ran Away From"!
We are the Insult and Genocidal attack of the Catlick Church.
> �
> Youd be on dodgy ground there if it is.
NO, I be the only TRUE CHALLENGER", and was given my name by the Arianhod!
Like it, or not!
> The use of the name Saint
> Patty just shows a foreign concept of Irish history and culture.
YEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> �
> Patrick as an Irish name is correctly abbreviated Paddy, Paddy is not
> some slave word comparable to Nigger,
Yes it is/was!!!!!!!!!!!
> its PC madness to infer that it
> is
Hollywood Hype, same as the "Fairie Tales" about "LUCIFER"!
People don't check for themselves, they just take others word for it, with Good Reason,
Rome Bred Sheeple and engaged in Genocide with Free Thinkers, Especially the Damn
Barbarian Ones.
Like Atilla and his "House of Satan", or Gaul and the Apollo.
> and my Uncle Paddy Byrne would agree.
>
> James
If he is Gaelic.
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Then get thee Behind me, You get in front of Fenris or the Cave Bear,� you are
Enemy.
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
No, by claiming "English Common Law" applies to Americans, and when they established the
"Corporate SOVEREIGN", Olde Kings were touchable, Corporate Giants are not.
You a Free Person holding to no Sovereign are forced to Pay Tithe to Corporate
Sovereign's.
And it all stared as a Mad Rush when the Republicans "Hijacked the Elections" and Took
Over America.
Now everyone wants to point the finger at the Dem.'s and Obama, for the Publican's
"FAITH BASED INITIATIVES".
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Most American's trace it through the Federalist Papers.
> �
>
> Money -- The Root of All Evil,
Sorta Kinda.
The Paper in the Pocket is more Valuable than the Tree which Obstructs the View.
An Coibhi Drui
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
> On Nov 17, 6:03 pm, An Coibhi Drui <photographerofkilke...@gmail.com>
>
> Just google all those, and in particular Social Credit in Alberta,
> Canada, also Social Credit in N..Z. .
> And in particular Major C.H.. Douglas - and the best : The Dearborn
> Independent/ Henry Ford, also the unfortunately - titled� ' The
> International Jew ' by Henry Ford ( which is not racist against the
> Jewish People, but rather contaiins the Inside Story of how the
> bankers such as the Jewish Rothschilds, J.P. Morgan, Chase Manhattan
> etc control the USA and World economies, as seen from the Inside by
> Henry Ford himself� .
The Guy who Drafted the Blueprints for Hitler!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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An Coibhi Drui
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
He taught Hitler how to establish the 3rd Reich.
America did not enter WWII because of Germany, we got dragged in when Japan Attacked Pearl
Harbor.
An Coibhi Drui
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
> Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. wrote:
Then Replaced his Original Thread with Plageristic Liable, proving what an Invading Troll he is and why
his posts are Criminal Assault.
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>
> >
> >
> > Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
Needle Dick!!!!!!!!!!!!
An Coibhi Drui
Byrne.M.James
> > some slave word comparable to Nigger,
>
> Yes it is/was!!!!!!!!!!!
Well lady A maybe where you area from it was but your peoples history
has no impact on Irish people.
Irish people didnt spend their lives as slaves so no comparable terms
were relevant. We were sold as intentured servants and built the
colonies but then when our sentence was up we were released and
because we had no way home we became their first tax paying working
class of those colonies. You cant belittle the working class that
supports the infrastructure of your colony the same way you do a
slave.
If all youre complaining about is discrimination then youve a
martyrdom obsession no different then someone obsessed with the
ficitious burning times. Wear it as a mark of honour if you want, it
only highlights your status as an outsider.
> > its PC madness to infer that it
> > is
>
> Hollywood Hype, same as the "Fairie Tales" about "LUCIFER"!
> People don't check for themselves, they just take others word for it, with Good Reason,
> Rome Bred Sheeple and engaged in Genocide with Free Thinkers, Especially the Damn
> Barbarian Ones.
> Like Atilla and his "House of Satan", or Gaul and the Apollo.
>
> > and my Uncle Paddy Byrne would agree.
>
> > James
>
> If he is Gaelic.
Gaelic is a sport here, though my uncle can be a big football headed
goon at times we dont use the word Gaelic to describe anything but a
sport. Its use is another thing that marks you as an outsider that
doesnt really know her arse from her elbow. Getting information from
books instead of the one thing that would get you where you want to
be, first hand experiance, wont make you anything except a person who
bought a bunch of books.
Since youre getting all your info from books Eddie Lenihans 'The devil
is an Irishman' is great.
James
Searles O'Dubhain
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James,
I agree that one must live the culture on the land to know as much as
can be known through experiencing it. I also think that one should
study the traditions of the land to know the roots of the culture. I
further believe that one must advance the culture by fulfilling its
dreams; by reinforcing its worth and by synchronizing its ways to
those of value that come from outside the culture. Each of these three
ways are the ways of Druid to knowledge about culture and anything
else.
Natives to culture learn the traditions as a part of growing up in
childhood. They experience and live the culture all of their lives.
They advance the culture through going beyond it and returning with
their own new knowledge. It seems to me that you've gained your
knowledge of native paganism in all three ways. I respect and admire
that and hope to learn much from you regarding native Irish Paganism.
I will eventually learn what can be learned by living, experiencing,
enjoying, disputing,playing, anguishing and working with my Irish
friends and family in Ireland. I also will sleep in the womb of my
ancestral land while dreaming in life and journeying through death.
One must learn and speak the language to be Irish. One must eat and be
eaten by Ireland to be a body that is a part of Her body. One must add
one's dreams to the dreams of millions to create Her future in ways
that make a rope of lives, dreams and creations. A strand, a thread, a
union of souls and all of it springing straight from the center of
existence. Each island of journeying takes one to that center. The
tower in its center is Mac ind Oic's navel string that is a cable of
life and hope back to the world in which we were found, in which we
have been and into which we will grow.
I can be simple. It can be complex. It can be alive for those of us
who seek Ireland even when she has already found us. Talking about it
is good. Living it is better. Being its life's blood is the best of
all. For that and more I thank you. I fully understand that to be a
part of a land's culture, one must live in the land where that culture
is at home.
Searles O'Dubhain
Searles O'Dubhain
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>
> I certainly don't want any of you lot leaping down my wires at me!
> helgaleena- Hide quoted text -
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Firewalls are an invention that requires leaps to become orderly and
polite requests for admission to one's home. They are a shelter for
the things that one finds worthwhile and precious. They are modern day
hill-forts and crannogs. However, even the crystal tower of Balor did
not protect his daughter Ethlinn from the advances of Cian or the
birth of Lugh. It's all a power behind layers of shielding; a head in
a hazel tree and sneaking a peek at a brewing cauldron
Searles O'Dubhain
An Coibhi Drui
I think you have lived in Ireland all your life, Searles .
Or , possibly you lived here before !
Michael .
root
Oh my, so many possible jokes oppotunities are opened up by your first
five words above.
I think they are so obvious, I don't event have to say what they might
be ;)
golwg
Matthew
An Coibhi Drui
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Actually, Root, I often enjoy some of her writings, and I don't see
any Big Deal in it about whether you were in Bheara or not . You're
making a right fuss out of this to the point of boredom( I've never
been there myself, have no plans to go there either at this moment in
time ) .
Cheers,
Michael .
Byrne.M.James
I can be a real prick sometimes Searles. Its bad charactor on my part
dont thank me for it man. Im sorry if I insulted you.
To be honest being born here doesnt really make you Irish and youd
have to take a personal interest to really know what being Irish
means. A comedian called Tommy Teirnan made the joke that Irish people
dont know what being Irish means, for most of them it just means we
arent English. Its funny cos its true and its difficult to argue that
those people are actually members of the irish culture even having
grown up here.
James
Searles O'Dubhain
James,
It is your heart and soul that are Irish and your body that lives in
Ireland. What you have to say to me is taken very seriously as I can
see truth in your heart. What I myself have to say sometimes does npot
accurately reflect my own heart's truth so I understand the very real
need to ask others for their meanings at times.
Eventually I can get their true meanings evenif I am notoriously thick
sometimes. :-)
Thanks again for being apart of the discussion.
I do get the humor of the remarks about "not being English" in more
ways than one. They apply equally to those families who stayed in
Ireland and to those who left for other countries (like my own).
Searles O'Dubhain