buck...@exis.net wrote:
>:|Gardiner <Gardi...@pitnet.net> wrote:
>:|
>:|>:|buck...@exis.net wrote:
>:|>:|>
>:|>:|> Rick Gardiner <Gardi...@pitnet.net> wrote:
>:|
>:|
>:|>:|> The real reason is I love demolishing your speculations.
>:|>:|>
>:|>:|> >:|I'd love for you to address a single point systematically for a change,
>:|>:|> >:|without diverting the discussion into the merits of Pat Robertson.
>:|>:|>
>:|>:|> MY single point right now is James Madison and your previous claims about
>:|>:|> him.
>:|>:|
>:|>:|James Madison was a fellow who did graduate studies in "divinity" at Princeton
>:|>:|under John Witherspoon. This included extensive study in Hebrew and Biblical
>:|>:|studies.
>:|>:|
>:|
>:|>:|You would have us believe that this indicates nothing whatsoever about Madison's
>:|>:|religious disposition. I think most people of common sense and reason don't
>:|>:|believe that a person would go off to seminary, study under one of the most
>:|>:|Calvinistic and orthodox professors of the era whom you refer to as your mentor,
>:|>:|dedicate extensive time and effort toward learning the original languages for
>:|>:|studying the Bible, go so far as to lead in communion services, be commended by
>:|>:|one of the most astute Calvinists of the era, credit Luther as being the leader
>:|>:|in the cause of his life...
>:|>:|
>:|
>:|For someone who did all this study into religion, and was as religious as
>:|you claim, why did he have so much trouble filling a simple request as
>:|outlined in what follows?
>:|
>:|
>:|------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------
>:|AUGUST 16, 1824
>:|
>:|  TO THOMAS JEFFERSON
>:|                                          MONTPELLIER, Aug. 16, 1824
>:|  I will endeavour to make out a list of theological works, but am
>:|less qualified for the task then you seem to think; and fear, also, that my
>:|catalogues are less copious than might be wished. There is a difficulity in
>:|marking the proper limit to so inehaustible a chapter, whether with a view
>:|to the Library in its infant or more mature state.
>:|(SOURCE OF INFORMATION: Excerpt of letter from James Madison to Thomas
>:|Jefferson Aug. 16, 1824.  Letters and Other writings of James Madison, in
>:|Four Volumes, Published by Order of Congress. VOL. III, J. B. Lippincott &
>:|Co. Philadelphia, (1865), pp 447-448).
>:|------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------
>:|
>:|
>:|SEPTEMBER 20, 1824
>:|
>:|  TO THOMAS JEFFERSON
>:|                                          MONTPELLIER, Sept. 20, 1824
>:|  Dear sir, --On the receipt of yours of August 8, I turned my
>:|thoughts to its request on the subject of a theological catalogue for the
>:|Library of the University; and not being aware that so early answer was
>:|wished, as I  now find was the case,  I had proceeded very leisurely  in
>:|noting such authors as seemed proper for the collection. Supposing, also,
>:|that although theology was not to be taught in the University, its Library
>:|ought to contain pretty full information for such as might voluntarily seek
>:|it in that branch of learning. I had contemplated as much of a
>:|comprehensive and systematic selection as my scanty materials admitted, and
>:|had gone through the five first centuries of Christianity when yours of the
>:|3d instant came to hand, which was evening before the last. This conveyed
>:|to me more distinctly the limited obeject your letter had in view, and
>:|relieved me from a task which I found extremely tedious; especially
>:|considering the intermixture of the doctrinal and constroversal part of
>:|Divinity with the moral and metaohysical part, and the immense extent of
>:|the whole. I send you the list I had made out, with an addition on the same
>:|paper of such books as a hasty glance of a few catalogues and my
>:|recollection suggested. Perhaps some of them may not have occurred to you,
>:|and may suit the blank you have not filled. I am sorry I could not make a
>:|fair copy without failing to comply with the time pointed out.
>:|(SOURCE OF INFORMATION: Letter to Thomas Jefferson from James Madison,
>:|Sept. 20, 1824. Letters and Other writings of James Madison, in Four
>:|Volumes, Published by Order of Congress. VOL. III, J. B. Lippincott & Co.
>:|Philadelphia, (1865), pp 450-451).
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