Holy Ghost Revival
David Moore
starting December 31 - January 3, in Macon Missouri
visit the Gospel Center Web Site http://fast.to/gospelcenter to learn more
click on Revivals and Events.
To learn more about Kathy Snyder visit her site at
http://fast.to/KathySnyder
Rev. Steve Winter
>The Evanagelist Kathy Snyder will be preaching a Holy Ghost Revival
Technically it is a sin for a woman to address the congregation during
a worship service.
1 Timothy 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man,
but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the
transgression.
1 Corinthians 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their
husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
Sorry,
Rev. Steve Winter
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David Moore <dcm...@cvalley.net> wrote in article
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>
> a worship service.
Romans 16:7 refers to a woman apostle, Junia (note the feminine ending):
"Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of
note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me."
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>
> In article <37c9bea2....@news.chudys.com>,
> steve....@prime.org wrote:
> > "David Moore" <dcm...@cvalley.net> spake thusly and wrote:
> >
> > >The Evanagelist Kathy Snyder will be preaching a Holy Ghost Revival
> >
> > Technically it is a sin for a woman to address the congregation during
> > a worship service.
>
> Romans 16:7 refers to a woman apostle, Junia (note the feminine ending):
> "Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of
> note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me."
That doesn't mean she was allowed to preach.
Rev. Steve Winter
>> Technically it is a sin for a woman to address the congregation during
>> a worship service.
>
>Romans 16:7 refers to a woman apostle, Junia (note the feminine ending):
>"Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of
>note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me."
Susan Roby, you are one lying false christian scum! Just because someone
was "of note" among the Apostles does not make them an Apostle.
Also Paul would not have even considered you a Christian because of
your rejection of Biblical salvation.
Romans 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith,
Lord, who hath believed our report?
See how the non-obeyers are labeled as non-believers?
Why would you wish to quote an Apostle that so clearly labeled Susan Roby
to be a non believer because of her rejection of the Gospel?
David Moore
posting this message would have brought, I would have never posted it, nor
will I ever post any in the future. Psalm 1: 1-4.
And to address the issue of women preachers. I give you eight reasons:
1. In the Gospels we read of several women messengers who proclaimed "good
news" (Mat. 28:1-10; Luke. 24:9-11; John 4:28-30;20:16-18)
2. In Acts 2:14-21; Joel 2:28-31 God predicated and promised that He
Himself would pour out His Spirit upon women and they would prophesy. To
prophesy means to "speak to men to edicication, exhortation, and comfort"
(1 Cor. 14:3). "He that prophesieth edifieth the church" (1 Cor. 14:4)
Prophesying is for the church and general public. (1 Cor. 12:1-31;
14:1-6,12,24-26,29-33).
3. In Acts 21:8-9 it is clear the Philip's four daughters were
prophetesses, that is, they were evangelists like their father. This is in
perfect accord with Joel 2:28-29 which was fullfilled in the early church
(Acts 2:16), and with Acts 2:17-18 which will be fulfilled in the last
days.
4. In Romans 1 we have record of a number of women servants of the Lord in
various churches. Phebe (v 1-2), Priscilla (v 3-5),Mary, Tryphena,
Tryphosa, Persis, and Julia (v 6-15) are mentioned as laborers in the Lord.
5. In Phil. 4:2 Euodias and Syntche are mentions as being leaders of the
church at Phillippi.
6. Corinthian women prophesied and prayed in church (1 Cor. 11:4-5), so the
scripture in 1 Cor 14:34-35 that is used to condemn women preachers does
not refer to preaching, but to disturbance in church services--asking or
talking to their husbands in church, as stated in 1 Cor. 14:35. Both men
and women at Corinth were permitted to pray and prophesy, but both were
regulated by fixed laws in doing. (1 Cor. 14:24-32).
7.In 1 Cor. 12 Paul compares the church to a human body and mentions 9
gifts of the Spirit, including the gift of prophecy, for all the members of
the body of Christ, men and women.
8. Women were used of God in the O.T. days as prophetesses(Ex. 15:20; Judg.
4:4; 2 Kings 22:14; 2 Chr. 34:22; Neh. 6:14; Isa. 8:3; Lk. 1:39-56; 2:36).
The law made provision for women to make sacrifices, attend feasts, and
make vows (Dt. 12:11-18; Lev. 27). God has used a rod (Ex. 4:2,17); ass
(Num. 22:28; ram's horn (Josh. 6:5); ox goad, nail, barley cake, pitchers,
jawbone, millstone (Judg. 3:31;4:21;7:13,20; mantle, ditches, empty vessels
(2 Kin. 2:8;3:16;4:3), cruise of oil, ravens (1 Kin. 17:4,16); worm, wind,
fish, goard (Jonah 1:4,17;4:6-7), cock (Mk. 14:72); and many other weak
things to confound the mighty (1 Cor. 1:18-21). IS IT NOT POSSIBLE THEN
THAT HE CAN USE A WOMEN??
Bless Mr. Steve Winter, and Mr. Jerry Martin; as the Lord command us in
Romans 12:14 "BLESS them which persecute you; bless and CURSE NOT."
>Rev. Steve Winter spake thusly and wrote:
>
>Susan Roby, you are one lying false christian scum! Just because someone
>was "of note" among the Apostles does not make them an Apostle.
In Christ Service,
David C. Moore
The Evanagelist Kathy Snyder will be preaching a Holy Ghost Revival
Rev. Steve Winter
>Had I known of the poor quaility of discussion, hate, and flaming that
>posting this message would have brought, I would have never posted it, nor
>will I ever post any in the future. Psalm 1: 1-4.
Well, when you come on the scene promoting false doctrine and deception,
and then you hear the truth, you call it "hate".
>And to address the issue of women preachers. I give you eight reasons:
>
>1. In the Gospels we read of several women messengers who proclaimed "good
>news" (Mat. 28:1-10; Luke. 24:9-11; John 4:28-30;20:16-18)
These do not mean that they were preachers or "preacherettes" as it were...
>2. In Acts 2:14-21; Joel 2:28-31 God predicated and promised that He
>Himself would pour out His Spirit upon women and they would prophesy. To
>prophesy means to "speak to men to edicication, exhortation, and comfort"
>(1 Cor. 14:3). "He that prophesieth edifieth the church" (1 Cor. 14:4)
>Prophesying is for the church and general public. (1 Cor. 12:1-31;
>14:1-6,12,24-26,29-33).
A woman can prophesy and not be a preacher or be doing it during
a worship service.
>3. In Acts 21:8-9 it is clear the Philip's four daughters were
>prophetesses, that is, they were evangelists like their father. This is in
Acts21:8 ś And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came
unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which
was one of the seven; and abode with him.
9 And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.
Well, bud, looks like you are just one basic filthy liar. The Bible does
not say that they were evangelists like their father.
>4. In Romans 1 we have record of a number of women servants of the Lord in
>various churches. Phebe (v 1-2), Priscilla (v 3-5),Mary, Tryphena,
>Tryphosa, Persis, and Julia (v 6-15) are mentioned as laborers in the Lord.
There are many sisters who do great works for the Lord in many Churches,
that does not make them preacherettes.
>5. In Phil. 4:2 Euodias and Syntche are mentions as being leaders of the
>church at Phillippi.
Phil 4:2 I beseech Euodias, and beseech Syntyche, that they be of the same
mind in the Lord.
3 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured
with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers,
whose names are in the book of life.
That does not prove that they were preacherettes. Paul was the one
who taught the commandment for women not to address the congregation
during a worship service. You lied again as that verse does not
say that they were "leaders of the church".
>6. Corinthian women prophesied and prayed in church (1 Cor. 11:4-5), so the
1Cor 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered,
dishonoureth his head.
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered
dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a
shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
That does not say that they spoke out during worship services. You
sure do lie a lot. Did you miss that verse about "all liars".
>scripture in 1 Cor 14:34-35 that is used to condemn women preachers does
>not refer to preaching, but to disturbance in church services--asking or
>talking to their husbands in church, as stated in 1 Cor. 14:35. Both men
>and women at Corinth were permitted to pray and prophesy, but both were
>regulated by fixed laws in doing. (1 Cor. 14:24-32).
Man you are one filthy liar! Let's look at the actual verses
1cor 14:24 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or
one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:
25 And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down
on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.
26 ś How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a
psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an
interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
Note "brethren"
27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most
by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
Note "man speak"
28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and
let him speak to himself, and to God.
Note "let him"
29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold
his peace.
31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be
comforted.
32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches
of the saints.
Then in the very next verse he continues and gives some instructions to
the sisters.
34 ś Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted
unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also
saith the law.
What cult are you in anyway? You sure are one liar!
(Don't you love these religious filth who want to post packs
of lies and then whine about "hateful" when they are exposed
for the liars they are.)
John Fraser
Matters contained in the Holy Scriptures apply to Steve only as he
deems fitting. He has little difficulty with slandering and cursing.
According to him, the apostle Paul wrote that unbelievers and the
disobedient are to be accursed. Steve interprets this to be an active
vice passive verb. In other words, a commandment vs. a situation. His
personal goal is to educate the ignorant on the true meaning of God's
word.
Unless you can recite scripture that stands alone without related
interpretations attached, you will need the help of God. Seriously.
Steve will cite you on every error you make. Despite claims to the
contrary, God works for Steve. Regardless, thanks for the notice on
Kathy Snyder. I can't attend, but I trust she will have an encouraging
response to her message. If you read of David Livingston, he was
willing to take women because the men were cowards. Sometimes a woman's
voice can accomplish more depending on the situation because it has a
more pleasing tone to the ear. Just my opinion.
Cheers,
John
David Moore wrote:
>
> Had I known of the poor quaility of discussion, hate, and flaming that
> posting this message would have brought, I would have never posted it, nor
> will I ever post any in the future. Psalm 1: 1-4.
>
> And to address the issue of women preachers. I give you eight reasons:
>
> 1. In the Gospels we read of several women messengers who proclaimed "good
> news" (Mat. 28:1-10; Luke. 24:9-11; John 4:28-30;20:16-18)
>
> 2. In Acts 2:14-21; Joel 2:28-31 God predicated and promised that He
> Himself would pour out His Spirit upon women and they would prophesy. To
> prophesy means to "speak to men to edicication, exhortation, and comfort"
> (1 Cor. 14:3). "He that prophesieth edifieth the church" (1 Cor. 14:4)
> Prophesying is for the church and general public. (1 Cor. 12:1-31;
> 14:1-6,12,24-26,29-33).
>
> 3. In Acts 21:8-9 it is clear the Philip's four daughters were
> prophetesses, that is, they were evangelists like their father. This is in
> perfect accord with Joel 2:28-29 which was fullfilled in the early church
> (Acts 2:16), and with Acts 2:17-18 which will be fulfilled in the last
> days.
>
> 4. In Romans 1 we have record of a number of women servants of the Lord in
> various churches. Phebe (v 1-2), Priscilla (v 3-5),Mary, Tryphena,
> Tryphosa, Persis, and Julia (v 6-15) are mentioned as laborers in the Lord.
>
> 5. In Phil. 4:2 Euodias and Syntche are mentions as being leaders of the
> church at Phillippi.
>
> 6. Corinthian women prophesied and prayed in church (1 Cor. 11:4-5), so the
> scripture in 1 Cor 14:34-35 that is used to condemn women preachers does
> not refer to preaching, but to disturbance in church services--asking or
> talking to their husbands in church, as stated in 1 Cor. 14:35. Both men
> and women at Corinth were permitted to pray and prophesy, but both were
> regulated by fixed laws in doing. (1 Cor. 14:24-32).
>
Rev. Steve Winter
>
> Matters contained in the Holy Scriptures apply to Steve only as he
>deems fitting. He has little difficulty with slandering and cursing.
>According to him, the apostle Paul wrote that unbelievers and the
You are a filthy liar, Mr Fraser, and a meddling false christian scum.
Jesus did call filth like yourself names like scum.
Many folks both false christian and real Christian have a misconception
about the Lord, who was the perfect example for the Christian..
I Peter 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also
suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
I Peter 2:22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
I Peter 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he
suffered, he threatened not; but committed [himself] to him that
judgeth righteously:
But let us also look at this particular situation that shows us the
Lord exhibiting unusual behaviour; and that is, when he encountered
false preachers, false religionists, deceivers, religious filth just
like the "John Fraser"s of this hour.
Matthew 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can ye
escape the damnation of hell?
Matthew 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye
are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful
outward, but are within full of dead [men's] bones, and of all
uncleanness.
Looking carefully at verse 27. In our modern language "full of dead
men's bones and all uncleanliness" would generously translate as the
modern term "scum". That tells me that if the Lord was walking
our streets today and encountered a denominal trinitarian preacher,
or one like John Fraser that He would call him/her/it "scum", "snake",
"hypocrite".
"Love incarnate" didn't coddle false preachers. The Apostle Paul
instructs us should we encounter anyone like John Fraser preaching other
than the original Acts 2:38 message:
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other
gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be
accursed.
(Check out Acts 19, if you have any doubts that Paul adhered to the
Acts 2:38 re-birth of WATER and SPIRIT.)
Would Jesus Christ call *your* preacher "scum" ? If he's not
preaching the Acts 2:38 Apostolic message, He sure would! And so
would I.
Oh that men would turn and curse their false preachers in this life
rather than for all eternity!
Rev. Steve Winter PreRapture BBS 919-286-3606 N,8,1 300-33600bps
ro...@my-dejanews.com
robys
In article <01be3218$856d76a0$8fd6e8d0@default>,
"David Moore" <dcm...@cvalley.net> wrote:
<snip of lotsa good stuff>
> Bless Mr. Steve Winter, and Mr. Jerry Martin; as the Lord command us in
> Romans 12:14 "BLESS them which persecute you; bless and CURSE NOT."
>
> >Rev. Steve Winter spake thusly and wrote:
> >
> >Susan Roby, you are one lying false christian scum! Just because someone
> >was "of note" among the Apostles does not make them an Apostle.
>
> In Christ Service,
>
> David C. Moore
>
> The Evanagelist Kathy Snyder will be preaching a Holy Ghost Revival
> starting December 31 - January 3, in Macon Missouri
> visit the Gospel Center Web Site http://fast.to/gospelcenter to learn more
> click on Revivals and Events.
>
> To learn more about Kathy Snyder visit her site at
> http://fast.to/KathySnyder
>
>
JATOFTHEPANJAB
Many people do not know the difference between the Holy Ghost and Holy
Spirit and would say they are the same.
But it is not so. Holy Ghost are wisemen whilst Holy Spirit is God. A
Church bishop must be a wiseman led by Holy Ghost and the Apostles should go
by Holy Spirit.
God is a Loving Spirit and Not a frightening Ghost.
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
A Jatt of the United Greater Panjab,
Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
Gnostics are the living christs (satgurus) and NOT Christians, of Living
Allah (Spirit),
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ro...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message <768rki$5sk$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
bobe
>
> Hi,
>
> Many people do not know the difference between the Holy Ghost and Holy
> Spirit and would say they are the same.
>
never speaks of Himself and is kind and gentle and He is the same who
raised Jesus from the dead.
Praise God for the Holy Ghost. Amen.
bobe
--
"Not only does God take you out of Egypt,
He also takes Egypt out of you!"
JATOFTHEPANJAB
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
A Jatt of the United Greater Panjab,
Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
Gnostics are the living christs (satgurus) and NOT Christians, of Living
Allah (Spirit),
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bobe wrote in message <368CEA...@swbell.net>...
Mike Dobony
bobe wrote in message <368CEA...@swbell.net>...
>JATOFTHEPANJAB wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Many people do not know the difference between the Holy Ghost and Holy
>> Spirit and would say they are the same.
>>
Sorry I didn't see the beginning of this post. What do you think the
difference is between the Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit? There is nothing
I see in the Greek to distinguish between either title. The only difference
I have seen is in the language of the period of the translation to English.
Mike D.
JATOFTHEPANJAB
the twice-born of evil spirit fear whilst Holy Spirit is the very Spirit of
God that no human wisdom can perceive but received through revelations only.
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
A Jatt of the United Greater Panjab,
Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
Gnostics are the living christs (satgurus) and NOT Christians, of Living
Allah (Spirit),
http://www.dnet.co.uk/users/bargainflights/index.htm
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Mike Dobony wrote in message <76ls20$298$1...@ins8.netins.net>...
Jerry Martin
translation. Some used spirit and others out of superstition translated it
ghost.
It is Gods active force.
Peace
Jerry Martin
JATOFTHEPANJAB <raji...@nijjhar.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in article
<7779cn$qc1$2...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>...
Mike Dobony
JATOFTHEPANJAB wrote in message <7779cn$qc1$2...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>People with Holy Ghost are worldly wise men from whom the once born fear
and
>the twice-born of evil spirit fear whilst Holy Spirit is the very Spirit of
>God that no human wisdom can perceive but received through revelations
only.
>
Prove this by scripture.
dke...@integrityonline4.com
Again, you er.
On Sat, 09 Jan 1999 15:53:04 GMT, "Jerry Martin" <m1...@mcia.com>
wrote:
>:The Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit are the same. It was a matter of
>:translation. Some used spirit and others out of superstition translated it
>:ghost.
>:It is Gods active force.
>:Peace
>:Jerry Martin
>:
Once again you are in error.
The Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit ARE the same, and it IS a matter of
translation.
However HE is not an "it," and HE has all of the characteristics of
being an intelligent person of God, such as emotions, the ability to
speak, to be saddened, etc.
And HE is God.
Mere forces, no matter how active can be those things.
Sorry Jerry, but you goofed.
JATOFTHEPANJAB
common sense.
How could you call God to be a Ghost when He is loving and merciful?
Letters or Scriptures will make you super donkey carrying Holy Books.
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
A Jatt of the United Greater Panjab,
Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
Gnostics are the living christs (satgurus) and NOT Christians, of Living
Allah (Spirit),
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Mike Dobony wrote in message <778hkb$las$1...@ins8.netins.net>...
JATOFTHEPANJAB
Most of you have been brain washed and if simple facts are told, you still
go back to your own silly ideas.
You know God is Spirit and what is born of Spirit is spirit and what is born
of the Flesh(Adam) is flesh; then tell me who created Adam and Eve?
It is a great test of your brain washing. A person of discerning intellect
capable of Reasoning has the answer.
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
A Jatt of the United Greater Panjab,
Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
Gnostics are the living christs (satgurus) and NOT Christians, of Living
Allah (Spirit),
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Mike Dobony
JATOFTHEPANJAB wrote in message <77bbqc$aaa$3...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>Don't use the dead letters of the Scriptures but use the living spirit or
>common sense.
>
God's word is not dead but living. You are deceived by a demon in your
private interpretation. I challenge you to test your source! Challenge
your demon in the name of Jesus Christ to tell you the truth of what it is!
>How could you call God to be a Ghost when He is loving and merciful?
>
>Letters or Scriptures will make you super donkey carrying Holy Books.
>
> Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
> A Jatt of the United Greater Panjab,
> Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
> Gnostics are the living christs (satgurus) and NOT Christians, of Living
>Allah (Spirit),
> http://www.dnet.co.uk/users/bargainflights/index.htm
> http://www.nijjhar.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm
> http://www.nijjhar.freeserve.co.uk/gnostic/home.htm
> http://www.dnet.co.uk/users/bargainflights/gnostic/home.htm
> http://www.nijjhar.freeserve.co.uk/sikhism.htm
> http://www.dnet.co.uk/users/bargainflights/sikhism.htm
>
Dion Blaine
>
> You know God is Spirit and what is born of Spirit is spirit and what is born
> of the Flesh(Adam) is flesh; then tell me who created Adam and Eve?
Neither Adam nor Eve were born physically.
You answered your own question. Adam and Eve were CREATED by God (read
the scripture gen 1:26-27). God who is a Spirit, created man who is a
Spirit in his own image, and likeness.
Man in a triune being. Man is a SPIRIT, He possesses a SOUL and lives
in a BODY.
Rev. Steve Winter
>You answered your own question. Adam and Eve were CREATED by God (read
>the scripture gen 1:26-27). God who is a Spirit, created man who is a
>Spirit in his own image, and likeness.
>
>Man in a triune being. Man is a SPIRIT, He possesses a SOUL and lives
>in a BODY.
So was Adam one of three separate persons? Ha! What foolishness the
trinitarians use to justify their polytheism.
Whether Satan's servants call their polytheistic philosophies
"trinitarianism", "triunity", or whatever smokescreen or deception..
Whether they philosophize about pies being sliced or apples being diced...
The bottom line is that they REJECT Jesus name baptism for the
remission of sins as preached and practiced by the Apostles and
ALL real Christians since then.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and
wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Jesus name baptism remits sins!
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every
one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Those that really receive the Word of God are baptized in Jesus name.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and
the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
The Bible is so clear in it's warning against trinity filth.
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and
vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of
the world, and not after Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all
principality and power:
Trinitarian filth like to post page after page of their garbage
polytheistic philosophies.
Guess what? Trinity filth do not want you to put on Christ.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ
have put on Christ.
Why do trinity filth want you to reject the name of Jesus?
Well....
2 Cor 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers,
transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2 Cor 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into
an angel of light.
2 Cor 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also
be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall
be according to their works.
2 Tim 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse,
deceiving, and being deceived.
I hope this helps...
Rev. Steve Winter PreRapture BBS 919-286-3606 USR-H16/V.34
JATOFTHEPANJAB
mythology.
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
A Jatt of the United Greater Panjab,
Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
Gnostics are the living christs (satgurus) and NOT Christians, of Living
Allah (Spirit),
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Dion Blaine wrote in message <369A68...@telops.gte.com>...
>JATOFTHEPANJAB wrote:
>>
>> You know God is Spirit and what is born of Spirit is spirit and what is
born
>> of the Flesh(Adam) is flesh; then tell me who created Adam and Eve?
>
>Neither Adam nor Eve were born physically.
>
JATOFTHEPANJAB
"source" please?
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
A Jatt of the United Greater Panjab,
Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
Gnostics are the living christs (satgurus) and NOT Christians, of Living
Allah (Spirit),
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Mike Dobony wrote in message <77d9to$9p4$1...@ins8.netins.net>...
>
>JATOFTHEPANJAB wrote in message <77bbqc$aaa$3...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>>Don't use the dead letters of the Scriptures but use the living spirit or
>>common sense.
>>
>
>God's word is not dead but living. You are deceived by a demon in your
>private interpretation. I challenge you to test your source! Challenge
>your demon in the name of Jesus Christ to tell you the truth of what it is!
>
>>How could you call God to be a Ghost when He is loving and merciful?
>>
>>Letters or Scriptures will make you super donkey carrying Holy Books.
>>
>> Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
>> A Jatt of the United Greater Panjab,
>> Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
>> Gnostics are the living christs (satgurus) and NOT Christians, of
Living
>>Allah (Spirit),
>> http://www.dnet.co.uk/users/bargainflights/index.htm
>> http://www.nijjhar.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm
>> http://www.nijjhar.freeserve.co.uk/gnostic/home.htm
>> http://www.dnet.co.uk/users/bargainflights/gnostic/home.htm
>> http://www.nijjhar.freeserve.co.uk/sikhism.htm
>> http://www.dnet.co.uk/users/bargainflights/sikhism.htm
>>
Mike Dobony
JATOFTHEPANJAB wrote in message <77kmav$l8o$2...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>If you receive the Word through revelations, then how could you test the
>"source" please?
>
Through Scripture.
JATOFTHEPANJAB
Mike Dobony wrote in message <77l5cl$48s$1...@ins8.netins.net>...
Scriptures are dead letters which would make you a super donkey carrying
Holy Books. Universities like Oxford and Cambridge produce best super
donkeys.
Revelations are superior to scriptures and the praises of such people lie
with men of spirit and not the women of letters.
Mike Dobony
JATOFTHEPANJAB wrote in message <77pa5q$b71$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>Hi,
>
>
>Mike Dobony wrote in message <77l5cl$48s$1...@ins8.netins.net>...
>>
>>JATOFTHEPANJAB wrote in message <77kmav$l8o$2...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>>>If you receive the Word through revelations, then how could you test the
>>>"source" please?
>>>
>>
>>Through Scripture.
>>
>
>Scriptures are dead letters which would make you a super donkey carrying
>Holy Books. Universities like Oxford and Cambridge produce best super
>donkeys.
>
>Revelations are superior to scriptures and the praises of such people lie
>with men of spirit and not the women of letters.
By what objective measure do you test your revelations? Jesus used
Scripture and quoted it directly. He also condemned the Pharisees for doing
exactly what you propose.
JATOFTHEPANJAB
the Gospel.
Are you a person of spirit please? If so, tell me when Jesus Baptised his
disciples in spirit? You should know that the Baptism of Jesus is Hiring
the Labourers in the Field.
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
A Jatt of the United Greater Panjab,
Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
Gnostics are the living christs (satgurus) and NOT Christians, of Living
Allah (Spirit),
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Mike Dobony wrote in message <77tjsf$5qf$1...@ins8.netins.net>...
Mike Dobony
JATOFTHEPANJAB wrote in message <77tn5r$27f$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>Spirit is vetted by the people of spirit. God is Spirit and so is His
Word,
>the Gospel.
>
>Are you a person of spirit please? If so, tell me when Jesus Baptised his
>disciples in spirit? You should know that the Baptism of Jesus is Hiring
>the Labourers in the Field.
You have failed to show your objective test of revelation. 1 John 4:1 says
to test EVERY spirit. Test against what? Paul said in Galatians 1:8-9 to
condemn even himself if he were to present a gospel other than the one first
presented to them. His gospel is WELL documented by Scripture. I test
revelation by God's written Word. What do you test your revelation by?
In Christ's Love,
Michael Dobony, Evangelist
mi...@netins.net
http://www.netins.net/showcase/gibbor/gibbor
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
The LORD mighty in battle.
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Psalms 24:8
JATOFTHEPANJAB
Unfortunately you are a man of letters devoid of spirit. Either rely upon
your Books that could be falsified or go for spirit that receives Gospel
through revelations.
Mike Dobony wrote in message <782c2i$uu2$1...@ins8.netins.net>...
>
>JATOFTHEPANJAB wrote in message <77tn5r$27f$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>>Spirit is vetted by the people of spirit. God is Spirit and so is His
>Word,
>>the Gospel.
>>
>>Are you a person of spirit please? If so, tell me when Jesus Baptised his
>>disciples in spirit? You should know that the Baptism of Jesus is Hiring
>>the Labourers in the Field.
>
>
>You have failed to show your objective test of revelation. 1 John 4:1 says
>to test EVERY spirit. Test against what? Paul said in Galatians 1:8-9 to
>condemn even himself if he were to present a gospel other than the one
first
>presented to them. His gospel is WELL documented by Scripture. I test
>revelation by God's written Word. What do you test your revelation by?
>
Have you read Cor2.3 or something where St.Paul stressed that the Word of
God cannot be written down in ink on paper but over the tablets of hearts.
Why it is so please?
Can you take New Wine on top of the old please?
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
A Jatt of the United Greater Panjab,
Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
Gnostics are the living christs (satgurus) and NOT Christians, of Living
Allah (Spirit),
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http://www.nijjhar.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm
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http://www.dnet.co.uk/users/bargainflights/sikhism.htm
>In Christ's Love,
Mike Dobony
JATOFTHEPANJAB wrote in message <7854ce$77k$6...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>Hi Brother,
>
>Unfortunately you are a man of letters devoid of spirit. Either rely upon
>your Books that could be falsified or go for spirit that receives Gospel
>through revelations.
>
Then the original was falsified. There are enough manuscripts (several
thousand) and except for certain manuscripts Egypt they are all almost
identical. The few differences (less than a page worth) are mostly word
order or spelling errors. God's Word is inspired by the Spirt and must be
interpreted with the help of the Spirit. However, the Spirit will NOT guide
you to interprete what is not there. ALL inspiration/revelation MUST
conform to His written Word. That is one of the purposes for putting it in
written form. Since you seem intent on not submitting your revelations to
any objective test, I must therefore assume that you are being inspired by a
demon. The Bereans were called more noble because they tested preaching by
Scripture. You are not noble because you refuse testing. That is the
spirit of rebellion.
Markus Kivikangas
David Moore kirjoitti viestissä <01be3147$f999d540$44d6e8d0@default>...
>The Evanagelist Kathy Snyder will be preaching a Holy Ghost Revival
>starting December 31 - January 3, in Macon Missouri
Please people, is this where America is nowadays?
I have checked this site occasionally and sometimes I just
can't understand that you are serious.
'Thank God' I live in Europe!!!
ro...@my-dejanews.com
Given all the garbage that floats around these newsgroups, I am at a loss as
to what alarmed you about this particular post.
robys
Joshua
> I have checked this site occasionally and sometimes I just
> can't understand that you are serious.
> 'Thank God' I live in Europe!!!
that's protestants for you.....
mwog
>
>I thought it was all about being a Christian and not the brand of religion
>you follow.
>
>regards Michael
>
>
JATOFTHEPANJAB
You know it well that Gospel is received through revelation and for that
reason, it cannot be written down in ink on paper.
So, seek Gospel through Reasoning and not by reading Books that will make
you a super donkey.
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
A Jatt of the United Greater Panjab,
Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
Gnostics are the living christs (satgurus) and NOT Christians, of Living
Allah (Spirit),
http://www.dnet.co.uk/users/bargainflights/index.htm
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Mike Dobony wrote in message <785m8f$94b$1...@ins8.netins.net>...
Michael
I thought it was all about being a Christian and not the brand of religion
you follow.
regards Michael
ro...@my-dejanews.com
Joshua <ma...@geocities.com> wrote:
> > Please people, is this where America is nowadays?
> > I have checked this site occasionally and sometimes I just
> > can't understand that you are serious.
> > 'Thank God' I live in Europe!!!
>
> that's protestants for you.....
>
SAY WHAT?????
Michael
>Not if your Jewish.
>
>>
>>I thought it was all about being a Christian and not the brand of religion
>>you follow.
>>
>>regards Michael
If you want to see the Father you must go through the Son.
(John 3:36) Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever
rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."
regards Michael
pastor...@my-dejanews.com
"Markus Kivikangas" <markus.k...@pb.inet.fi> wrote:
>
> David Moore kirjoitti viestissä <01be3147$f999d540$44d6e8d0@default>...
>
> >The Evanagelist Kathy Snyder will be preaching a Holy Ghost Revival
> >starting December 31 - January 3, in Macon Missouri
>
> I have checked this site occasionally and sometimes I just
> can't understand that you are serious.
> 'Thank God' I live in Europe!!!
What are you talking about?
>
>
Mike Crain-email at
(text only) pastor2bm...@juno.com
(other) micrai...@erinet.com
David Johnston
Such a pity. Moses spends all his life trying to serve God (well, most
of it) and in the end he goes to Hell for not being a Christian.
Oh well. Them's the breaks.
Michael
David Johnston wrote in message <36A987...@telusplanet.net>...
If you find it, too hard a concept to grasp, then you are most probably
lost. If you would care to post where you live, I am sure that some kind
Christian could recommend a place of fellowship for you.
regards Michael
Rev. Steve Winter
>Such a pity. Moses spends all his life trying to serve God (well, most
>of it) and in the end he goes to Hell for not being a Christian.
>Oh well. Them's the breaks.
The Church had not started yet. The Church did not start until the Day
of Pentecost in Acts Chapter 2.
Your assignment is to read Acts Chapter 2, your reward will be the ability
to appear much more intelligent in discussions. But wait, there's MORE!
You can obey Acts 2:38 and become a Christian and have a shot at the
"Big Prize" (so to speak), IF you can stay in the race and endure till
the end.
1 Corinthians 9:24 ś Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but
one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.
Philippians 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of
God in Christ Jesus.
Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your
sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like
crimson, they shall be as wool.
Rev. Steve Winter
Joshua
> you follow.
i agree, but if that were true, why are there so many denominations?
obviously there are people who don't think all christians should just
unite and be together like they're supposed to be....
Joshua
>
> (John 3:36) Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever
> rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."
whatcha tryin to say? you saying us jews are hellbound or something?
Joshua
> >> rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."
> >
> >whatcha tryin to say? you saying us jews are hellbound or something?
>
> "For thus says the LORD: 'We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and
> not of peace. Ask now, and see, whether a man is ever in labour with child?
> So why do I see every man with his hands on his loins like a woman in
> labour, and all faces turned pale?
a simple yes or no would suffice
Michael
>> If you want to see the Father you must go through the Son.
>>
Alas! For that day is great, so that none is like it; and it is the time of
Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it. 'For it shall come to pass
in that day,' Says the LORD of hosts, 'that I will break his yoke from your
neck, and will burst your bonds; foreigners shall no more enslave them.
But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will
raise up for them.
'Therefore do not fear, O My servant Jacob,' says the LORD, 'nor be
dismayed, O Israel; for behold, I will save you from afar, and your seed
from the land of their captivity. Jacob shall return, have rest and be
quiet, and no one shall make him afraid. For I am with you,' says the LORD,
'to save you; though I make a full end of all nations where I have scattered
you, yet I will not make a complete end of you. But I will correct you in
justice, and will not let you go altogether unpunished.'
Romans 11:11-21
Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all!
Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles
to make Israel envious. But if their transgression means riches for the
world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches
will their fullness bring!
I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles,
I make much of my ministry in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own
people to envy and save some of them. For if their rejection is the
reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the
dead? If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the
whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches.
If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive
shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing
sap from the olive root, do not boast over those branches. If you do,
consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. You
will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in."
Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by
faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. For if God did not spare the
natural branches, he will not spare you either.
Ezekiel 20:34-38:
I will bring you out from the peoples and gather you out of the countries
where you are scattered, with a mighty hand, with an outstretched arm, and
with fury poured out.
"And I will bring you into the wilderness of the peoples, and there I will
plead My case with you face to face.
Just as I pleaded My case with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of
Egypt, so I will plead My case with you," says the Lord GOD. I will make you
pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant; I
will purge the rebels from among you, and those who transgress against Me; I
will bring them out of the country where they dwell, but they shall not
enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the LORD.
regards Michael
Michael
Joshua wrote in message <36A8EDE3...@geocities.com>...
>> >> (John 3:36) Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever
>> >> rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."
>> >
>> >whatcha tryin to say? you saying us jews are hellbound or something?
>>
>> Jeremiah 30:4-11
>> "For thus says the LORD: 'We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear,
and
>> not of peace. Ask now, and see, whether a man is ever in labour with
child?
>> So why do I see every man with his hands on his loins like a woman in
>> labour, and all faces turned pale?
>
The answer is both Yes and No, the Jews that accept Jesus Christ as their
Messiah will be saved, those that do not - will not be saved.
(John 3:36) Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever
rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."
regards Michael
Joshua
> Messiah will be saved, those that do not - will not be saved.
>
> (John 3:36) Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever
> rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."
so we're hellbound then...ok
David Johnston
>
> David Johnston wrote in message <36A987...@telusplanet.net>...
> >Michael wrote:
> >>
> >> mwog wrote in message <788c0c$m8i$2...@nntp.gulfsouth.verio.net>...
> >> >Not if your Jewish.
> >> >
> >> >>
> religion
> >> >>you follow.
> >> >>
> >>
> >> If you want to see the Father you must go through the Son.
> >>
> >> rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."
> >
> >of it) and in the end he goes to Hell for not being a Christian.
> >Oh well. Them's the breaks.
> >
>
> lost. If you would care to post where you live, I am sure that some kind
> Christian could recommend a place of fellowship for you.
I grasp the concept perfectly well. God doesn't care whether he
sends faithful worshippers to hell.
mwog
David Johnston wrote in message <36AACD...@telusplanet.net>...
>> >Michael wrote:
>> >> mwog wrote in message <788c0c$m8i$2...@nntp.gulfsouth.verio.net>...
>> >> >Not if your Jewish
>> >Oh well. Them's the breaks.
>sends faithful worshippers to hell.
Horror upon horror David! Who told you that piece of garbage? I do not
believe you realized what you were saying and I certainly do not believe for
one moment that your words were those of the Father, the HOly Spirit
speaking through you but were rather laced with your own anger and lack of
patience with others. God doesn't CARE whether he sends faithful
worshippers to hell??? Were you just implying that with our lips we say one
thing but our hearts are far from Him if we do not accept salvation through
Christ? Would you please clarify what you mean? Otherwise I would ask you
where did that statement come from??? God is willing that none should
perish, remember? The glorious creatures that we were created to be like
our father Adam were made in God's image, clothed in God's glory, so close
to Him that He would come and walk with Adam and Eve as even a friend would
do. Isn't that why all need reconciliation with God through Jesus so that
we can all be restored to that former glory the way we were created to be?
Not just so we can be good law keepers without Jesus as many Jews and others
have chosen to remain but through Christ be restored to the former glory as
that found in Eden not living by the standard of just Good nor Evil and the
knowledge of them but rather creations who exemplify the express image of
the Living God. If God doesn't care, then why did He go to all this detail
and planning for our reconciliation and restoration of all of mankind? Some
people haven't figured this out yet and are in desperate need, I believe, as
time seems to be drawing near to an end for making the choice. Honestly,
David, I believe, God cares alot. I also believe that it is we who do not
care enough and it is our job, isn't it, to persuade them to care with the
Holy Spirit working through us as He draws them to Christ. We are the ones
who often say, Just us four and no more. The Jews will not be converted
through the arguing of the scriptures. It must be for them as for us...the
Holy Spirit draws them...We are the temple of the Holy Spirit and we must
gain the heart of God and be ready to even snatch them from hell's fire at
the last moment with the smell of smoke on their heels which means we must
care just as much as God does up until the last moment possible. Whew!
Judith
Michael
>> If you find it, too hard a concept to grasp, then you are most probably
>> lost. If you would care to post where you live, I am sure that some kind
>> Christian could recommend a place of fellowship for you.
>
>sends faithful worshippers to hell.
Faithful worshippers of whom or what exactly, If you believe that the Jews
have been faithful to God you are mistaken. Though God loves them and
remembers his covenant with them, it is for them to move to him.
regards Michael
Joshua
> have been faithful to God you are mistaken. Though God loves them and
> remembers his covenant with them, it is for them to move to him.
if ALL jews are unfaithful then ALL christians are just as unfaithful.
it's pretty useless to say that ALL of the jews are unfaithful because i
haven't met one christian who could do any better
David Johnston
>
> David Johnston wrote:
> >> If you find it, too hard a concept to grasp, then you are most probably
> >> lost. If you would care to post where you live, I am sure that some kind
> >> Christian could recommend a place of fellowship for you.
> >
> >I grasp the concept perfectly well. God doesn't care whether he
> >sends faithful worshippers to hell.
>
> have been faithful to God you are mistaken. Though God loves them and
> remembers his covenant with them, it is for them to move to him.
Christians have no better batting average.
David Johnston
>
> David Johnston wrote in message <36AACD...@telusplanet.net>...
> >> >Michael wrote:
> >> >> mwog wrote in message <788c0c$m8i$2...@nntp.gulfsouth.verio.net>...
> >> >> >Not if your Jewish
> >> >of it) and in the end he goes to Hell for not being a Christian.
> >> >Oh well. Them's the breaks.
> >sends faithful worshippers to hell.
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Quite a few Christians.
> believe you realized what you were saying and I certainly do not believe for
> one moment that your words were those of the Father, the HOly Spirit
> speaking through you but were rather laced with your own anger and lack of
> patience with others. God doesn't CARE whether he sends faithful
OK, fair enough. God really regrets sending the faithful to Hell.
> worshippers to hell??? Were you just implying that with our lips we say one
> thing but our hearts are far from Him if we do not accept salvation through
> Christ? Would you please clarify what you mean? Otherwise I would ask you
Simple enough. Christianity does not have a monopoly on devotion to the Creator.
It's quite useful to Christian religions to arrogate unto theirselves a monopoly
on salvation, to be sure, as a recruiting ploy at least, but it does lead to
the disturbing image of holy men and women devoted to God and carrying the love
of God in their heart being flushed down the drain to Hell because they neglected
to pick the right brand name.
And yes, my words probably weren't inspired by the Holy Spirit. Unless of
course the Holy Spirit inspires sarcasm.