Why did God make gays if he didnt approve of them?
chrishol...@yahoo.com
Is being gay wrong?
What should be done with gays?
Neil Kelsey
Does god exist?
> Is being gay wrong?
No.
> What should be done with gays?
Nothing.
A dirty muzzie pig's worst nightmare!
Queers are the spawn of satan. tHat's why so many muzzies are queer.
http://queerjihad.blogspot.com/
Gary the mighty Yaako warrior.
Neil Kelsey
Midjis wrote:
> chrishol...@yahoo.com wrote :
>
> > What does God think of the gays?
>
> some measure of belief, otherwise of course the question does not arise.
>
> Just be careful to draw a distinction between 'asking God' and 'allowing
> yourself to be told what the Bible means when it says x, y and z'.
>
>
> > Is being gay wrong?
>
> You have already thought about this carefully enough to ask the question in
> the subject line of why God - who, we are told, created all things -
> created homosexuals if only to condemn them.
>
> Most of the militant, anti-gay Christians either have not considered this
> at all, or have come up with sufficient rationalisation to justify their
> own hatred to themselves.
(most of the militant anti-gay Christians are gay)
Bill M
<chrishol...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1168562235....@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
> What does God think of the gays?
>
> Is being gay wrong?
>
> What should be done with gays?
>
priest hood
but not otherwise denigrated!
p.d...@comcast.net
You mean Gary the messed up Jaackoff warrior...
Paul
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>What does God think of the gays?
The problem isn't what God thinks, since God in all probability
doesn't exist, or if he does, he's far too busy running the universe
to worry about what we do in our bedrooms. The problem is bigoted,
self-righteous morons who invent a god and then put words in his
mouth.
>
>Is being gay wrong?
Wrong in what way? It isn't my cup of tea, so in that sense it's wrong
for me as far as being a lifestyle choice, if it even is a choice, but
morally wrong? I don't think so.
>
>What should be done with gays?
Well, we could try leaving them alone. Not bothering someone who isn't
harming you is always a good choice......
Neil Kelsey
Midjis wrote:
> "Neil Kelsey" <neil_...@hotmail.com> wrote :
>
> > (most of the militant anti-gay Christians are gay)
>
> psychology hold that people who suppress their homosexuality often display
> the most intense apparent hatred of gay people.
>
> But while it may be that some suppressed homosexuals may exhibit hatred of
> gay people, I do not see that it follows that someone expressing such
> hatred is necessarily a suppressed homosexual.
>
> I would certainly not doubt that some anti-gay Christians are probably gay.
> I would question whether we can safely say 'most'.
I was joking (barely)
David Canzi -- non-mailable
In article <1168562235....@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com>,
Chris Holland -- probably not his real name -- cross-posted this
to the following newsgroups:
alt.religion.christian
alt.religion.islam
alt.atheism
soc.culture.jewish
uk.comp.sys.mac
His goal is to start a heated argument about homosexuality between
atheists, Christians, Muslims and Jews in uk.comp.sys.mac.
It's a form of newsgroup vandalism. There have been a lot of
articles like this lately.
If you see an article that pushes one of your hot buttons, check
for cross-posting, and if it's cross-posted to some totally
irrelevant newsgroup, don't help the vandal by responding.
Think before you respond.
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>What does God think of the gays?
>
>Is being gay wrong?
>
>What should be done with gays?
The subject line is a straw man. God did not make
man homosexual. Man did that, through his own
perversion. Your premise is like saying...
"Why did God make serial killers, if He didn't
approve of them?"
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you are a Christian. I won't believe you. To make
that claim, is to be a heretic who does not know God.
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<snip>
Chris is a troll and is trying to disrupt uk.comp.sys.mac
Please just ignore him.
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Jim
> j...@magrathea.plus.com (Jim) wrote :
>
>> Chris is a troll and is trying to disrupt uk.comp.sys.mac
>>
>> Please just ignore him.
>
> list. You will appreciate that the issue raised is frequently discussed in
> alt.religion.christian.
No worries mate, you weren't to know.
Jim
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MarkA
> What does God think of the gays?
>
They're almost as bad as people who pick up sticks on the Sabbath day!
> Is being gay wrong?
>
See above.
> What should be done with gays?
First, kill all the people who work on Sunday. You better throw in
Saturday, too, just in case THAT is the 'Sabbath Day.' When you're done
with that, come back and I'll tell you what to do with gays.
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(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
G-Net
The Bible is clear that homosexuality is an abomination
to God. The homosexual lifestyle is a sin BUT, that does
NOT mean that God hates gay people! In fact, the Bible
says that does not want anyone to perish.
> Is being gay wrong?
Living as a gay person is a sin but, there are options.
> What should be done with gays?
They are sinners just like everyone else. They
need God's love, forgiveness and grace just like any-
one else. Christians are supposed to hate the sin but
love the sinner.
Martin Willett
God doesn't exist so the whole first question is irrelevant.
Is being gay wrong? That depends on how you define wrong. If you believe
that a god made the universe and so we have to do what he wants because
of some perversion of paternal or property rights, or else, then the
question can be answered. If you don't believe in any gods or duty to
the universe then there is no absolute moral standard that has to be
applied. From a utilitarian angle homosexuality per se does not appear
to be wrong. It is not by definition harmful to society. However rampant
promiscuity does seem to be a bad thing, there are aspects of the
behaviour of some homosexuals which on balance do seem to be best
discouraged.
What should be done with gays? Integrate them fully in society,
encourage monogamous relationships, discourage promiscuity. Demanding
that everybody treats them as the same as heterosexuals is probably a
bad idea. There is no freedom in a world where people have to pretend to
accept and celebrate everything that isn't explicitly illegal.
http://mwillett.org/Politics/tolerate.htm
--
Martin Willett
flores...@hotmail.com
Midjis wrote:
> Most of the militant, anti-gay Christians either have not considered this
> at all, or have come up with sufficient rationalisation to justify their
> own hatred to themselves.
Don't try to lay your "blame" on Christians. Most people (and most
are hetero) find kornholery and female-female clacker-lapery abnormal
and disgusting, and nobody wants a queer for a kid.
I'll never forget standing in line to get into a restaurant once, right
behind a CLEARLY queer son and his mother. He was going
on and on about some bed sheets he'd just bought, and his mom
never said a word, she just had this priceless look of absolute
disgust on her face the whole time. I don't think the little
kornholer even noticed. She was likely thinking 'where the
heeelllllll did I go wrong?'
flores...@hotmail.com
Bill M wrote:
> <chrishol...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1168562235....@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
> > What does God think of the gays?
> >
> > Is being gay wrong?
> >
> > What should be done with gays?
> >
> Many Catholic priests are gay pedophiles. They should be removed from the
> priest hood
Uh yeah, great idea. The RCC is a joke, a bad one.
> but not otherwise denigrated!
No, just thrown in slammer like all pedos should be.
G-Net
news:t08fq25qdhln80vub...@4ax.com...> Nothing in the bible speaks against Gays.
>>>
>>> Is being gay wrong?
>
> No.........It is a biological fact of nature and the human animal has
> always been by sexual.
>
>>> What should be done with gays?
>
>
> .Isaiah
> 4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs (Gays)that keep my
> sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my
> covenant;
Sorry to disappoint you but a "eunuch" is not a gay person. A eunuch
is a man who was castrated. So, are you saying that all homosexuals
have been or should be castrated?
> 5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place
> and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an
> everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
>
> We call them homosexuals.
>
>
> .
>
> Mic...@thelastchurch.org
> alt.religion/the-last-church
> Http://www.thelastchurch.org
> http://cafepress.com/the_last_church
>
> A preacher is the blind leading the blind.
zoara
Please note that this thread was started by Chris Holland, who is a
childish (despite being old enough to know better) attention seeker who
is obsessed with homosexuality and is out to disrupt the group
uk.comp.sys.mac. He's simply posting provocative stuff (I mean, check out
the groups that this was posted to!) because he doesn't know how to get
positive attention from people, so resorts to getting negative attention
instead.
Please ignore him; you can find instructions on the web for setting up
killfiles which mean you never see anything he posts. The more attention
he is given, the more rubbish he will post.
Many thanks in advance,
-zoara-
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Martin Willett
>>> Is being gay wrong?
>
> No.........It is a biological fact of nature and the human animal has
> always been by sexual.
>
>
>
> .Isaiah
> 4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs (Gays)that keep my
> sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my
> covenant;
> and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an
> everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
>
> We call them homosexuals.
>
Nonsense Michael. The ancient Hebrews were a bunch of homophobic male
chauvinists and the god they invented was created in their image.
Homosexuality is natural, a widespread minority, and also widely
persecuted. Whether a society develops to be tolerant of homosexuality
or intolerant seems fairly arbitrary but once it has set off on
particular trajectory it is unlikely to deviate.
Eunuchs are not homosexuals. Men have had the urge to sacrifice to their
god with white meat for a long time.
Matthew 19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their
mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of
men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the
kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_teachings_of_jesus/on_marriage_vs_castration/mt19_11-12.html
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_teachings_of_jesus/on_marriage_vs_castration/mt19_12.html
chrishol...@yahoo.com
I am glad you asked.
If god existed, why would have created dirty fags?
I say there is no god.
chrishol...@yahoo.com
Neil Kelsey wrote:> Does god exist?
I doubt it. Only in people's minds.
> > Is being gay wrong?
>
> No.
>
> > What should be done with gays?
>
> Nothing.
ARE YOU HAPPY FOR GAY TO TEACH IN OUR SCHOOLS? GO TO OUR PARKS?
Did you see what happened to Saddam? Perhaps that should happen to all
gays.
chrishol...@yahoo.com
zoara wrote:
> Please note that this thread was started by Chris Holland, who is a
> childish (despite being old enough to know better) attention seeker who
> is obsessed with homosexuality and is out to disrupt the group
> uk.comp.sys.mac. He's simply posting provocative stuff (I mean, check out
> the groups that this was posted to!) because he doesn't know how to get
> positive attention from people, so resorts to getting negative attention
> instead.
>
> Please ignore him; you can find instructions on the web for setting up
> killfiles which mean you never see anything he posts. The more attention
> he is given, the more rubbish he will post.
>
> Many thanks in advance,
>
> -zoara-
>
>
Please note that I am a Mac user.
Zoara is a promiscuous homosexual man who loiters in mens public
restrooms to 'meet men'. Whilst I am, by no means 'homophobic' I cannot
tolerate such vile behavior.
There are some gay men in the Mac group that advocate homosexuality as
being superior to heterosexuality. They are a significant minority of
Mac users.
Jim and Zoara actually live together. They started buggering 4 months
ago and are very open about their "special friendship"
Jim says "I like it when Zoara holds me during a thunderstorm and when
we spoon in bed at night. I like it when he holds me in his big strong
muscular arms -- it gives me such a boner"
John Baker
Actually, most gays I know bathe regularly.
>
>I say there is no god.
On that point, you and I are in agreement. However, based on your
posts, I rather doubt you arrived at that conclusion by way of logical
deduction.
John Baker
>
>zoara wrote:
>> Please note that this thread was started by Chris Holland, who is a
>> childish (despite being old enough to know better) attention seeker who
>> is obsessed with homosexuality and is out to disrupt the group
>> uk.comp.sys.mac. He's simply posting provocative stuff (I mean, check out
>> the groups that this was posted to!) because he doesn't know how to get
>> positive attention from people, so resorts to getting negative attention
>> instead.
>>
>> Please ignore him; you can find instructions on the web for setting up
>> killfiles which mean you never see anything he posts. The more attention
>> he is given, the more rubbish he will post.
>>
>> Many thanks in advance,
>>
>> -zoara-
>>
>>
>
>
>Please note that I am a Mac user.
My condolences.
Budikka666
> What does God think of the gays?
Which god? If you're talking about a god which is purportedly perfect,
how can such a god think at all? Thinking requires a change in mental
state. How can something which is perfect and divine change at all?
> Is being gay wrong?
Not if this universe was created by this god of yours, because this
same god created homosexuality not just in humans, but also throughout
nature. You have to accept that
the uptight male Bible scribes got it paranoiacally wrong and what your
god has shown to us directly from his creation is that not only is
transgenderism, hermaphroditism and homosexuality fine, it's actually
required in some species.
http://www.marlin.ac.uk/species/reprod_Crepidulafornicata.htm
"Crepidula fornicata is a protandrous hermaphrodite. This means that
the animals start their lives as males and then subsequently may change
sex and develop into females. Although breeding can occur between
February and October, peak activity occurs in May and June when 80-90%
of females spawn. Most females spawn twice in a year, apparently after
neap tides. The spat settle in isolation or on top of an established
chain. If the individual settles alone, it becomes male briefly,
passing rapidly on to a female, especially if another animal settles on
it to initiate chain formation. Sex change can only occur to the
bottom-most male in a stack and takes approximately 60 days, during
which the penis regresses and the pouches and glands of the female duct
develop."
While we're waiting (interminably) for the creationsitsd to work up any
kind of rebuttal to this, there's more. C. fornicata is not the only
species to...enjoy...this kind of "lifestyle":
http://knittingcircle.org.uk/zoology.html#General%20information
> What should be done with gays?
The same thing that's done with everyone else. Why are you even asking
such a bigotted question? Why are you such a frightened little boy?
Do you have a belief which has done this to you - a belief in some god?
Budikka
chrishol...@yahoo.com
> >
> >Please note that I am a Mac user.
>
> My condolences.
What's wrong with Apple?
Apple kick ass.
Enkidu
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Costs much more, though.
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flores...@hotmail.com
Midjis wrote:
> flores...@hotmail.com wrote :
>
> > Don't try to lay your "blame" on Christians.
>
Quaint, but I never said I was Christian, that's just your
straw man.
chrishol...@yahoo.com
>
> > What should be done with gays?
>
> The same thing that's done with everyone else. Why are you even asking
> such a bigotted question? Why are you such a frightened little boy?
> Do you have a belief which has done this to you - a belief in some god?
>
> Budikka
All gays are dirty and have aids
Are you a gay?
Enkidu
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Join the Reality Based Community, dude.
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flores...@hotmail.com
Midjis wrote:
> flores...@hotmail.com wrote :
>
> > Quaint, but I never said I was Christian, that's just your
> > straw man.
>
> zealotry.
>
> However proud you might be of your hatred, and no matter how big it might
> make you feel, I would still sooner a child who turns out to be gay than
> one who becomes an arrogant bigot such as yourself.
Save the standard kneejerk yaddayadda. Nobody wants a queer child,
including the woman I was behind in line. BTW, I don't hate queers,
that's just another straw man.
Budikka666
You are dirty and have aids. Are you Chris Holland?
There. I have as much support for my statement (i.e. none) as you have
for yours, so it must be true.
Seriously - get an education before you post any more cluelessness in
these highly public world-wide fora. You're an embarrassment even to
bigotry.
Budikka
flores...@hotmail.com
Midjis wrote:
> flores...@hotmail.com wrote :
>
> > Save the standard kneejerk yaddayadda.
>
>
>
> > Nobody wants a queer child, including the woman I was behind in line.
>
> not worth any real attention because it was bunk.
Yeah I made it all up. We all know how mom's across America are
thrilled
to hear their queer-as-a-$3 bill son go on and on about new bed sheets,
with her accompanying thoughts of what God-forsaken Kornholery,
gerbilery, and other disgusting acts will go on on them, while her
friends' sons are marrying women, having kids and living the life
that the majority of sexually active people live.
J.J. O'Shea
(in article <1168735193.8...@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):
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the headers? Please? I just did.
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Budikka666
How sad it is for you to go through life in such terror. What are you
most afraid of - that you envy gays so, or that you might be one?
And *yes* it's Christians and other religious bigots who are to blame
for this fomenting of such appalling hatred. Deal with it. Take the
pole from your own ass before you imagine you can see one in the ass of
someone else.
Budikka
Christopher A.Lee
wrote:
"Beam me up, Scotty"
>Budikka
ale...@lycos.co.uk
Did God make gay from a baby ? All babies are born equal, naked either
boy or girl, deformed, disproportional, if the parent are great
sinners. After that it is up to the individual to learn the good. If he
learns the bad things, then he will turn bad. How can you blame God for
that ?
The story of Lot in the Bible is well known, even Quran runs the story.
God condemns sodomy, lesbianism, sexual immorality, lewdness etc.
Get gays to do meditation.
I use most scriptures to preach no religion.
See http://members.lycos.co.uk/alexkew/comment/gospel.html ,
see http://members.lycos.co.uk/alexkew/sub1/obible.html ,
see http://www.geocities.com/alex_kew/buddhistsutra.html ,
see http://www.geocities.com/alex_kew/hinduism.html ,
see http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/chinese/taoteching.html ,
see http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/chinese/daxue.html ,
see http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/chinese/zhongyong.html ,
see http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/chinese/i_ching.html ,
see http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/chinese/chuangtzu01.html ,
see http://uk.geocities.com/alex_kew/chquran/chinesequran.htm ,
etc etc.
I preach that your spiritual soul, or the One inside you, is your God
or Allah or Buddha, Tao
etc etc.
The Mark at your nose bridge is the site of Your God or Buddha etc.
It has to be SEALED so you can return back to the origin.
The world is a stage, we are only actors. We are like water droplets
that can disappear into the ocean.
Cultivate self by meditation. See
http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/chinese/meditate.html or
http://uk.geocities.com/alex_kew/comment/taoistyoga.html .
This is the way to enlarge your wisdom.
See http://www.geocities.com/alex_kew/hebrew9.html ,
see http://uk.geocities.com/alex_kew/chquran/surah48.htm .
chrishol...@yahoo.com wrote:
> What does God think of the gays?
>
> Is being gay wrong?
Budikka666
> You asked a stupid question.
> Did God make gay from a baby ? All babies are born equal, naked either
> boy or girl, deformed, disproportional, if the parent are great
> sinners. After that it is up to the individual to learn the good. If he
> learns the bad things, then he will turn bad. How can you blame God for
> that ?
Are you *really* this stupid? Or are you claiming that your god didn't
create genes? I'd love to see the science on that. Do you have any?
> The story of Lot in the Bible is well known, even Quran runs the story.
> God condemns sodomy, lesbianism, sexual immorality, lewdness etc.
No, your god created created homosexuality not just in humans, but also
throughout nature. You have to accept that the uptight male Bible
scribes got it paranoiacally wrong and what your god has shown to us
directly from his creation is that not only is transgenderism,
hermaphroditism and homosexuality fine, it's actually required in some
species.
http://www.marlin.ac.uk/species/reprod_Crepidulafornicata.htm
"Crepidula fornicata is a protandrous hermaphrodite. This means that
the animals start their lives as males and then subsequently may change
sex and develop into females. Although breeding can occur between
February and October, peak activity occurs in May and June when 80-90%
of females spawn. Most females spawn twice in a year, apparently after
neap tides. The spat settle in isolation or on top of an established
chain. If the individual settles alone, it becomes male briefly,
passing rapidly on to a female, especially if another animal settles on
it to initiate chain formation. Sex change can only occur to the
bottom-most male in a stack and takes approximately 60 days, during
which the penis regresses and the pouches and glands of the female duct
develop."
While I'm waiting (interminably) for you to work up any kind of
rebuttal to this, there's more. C. fornicata is not the only species
to...enjoy...this kind of "lifestyle":
http://knittingcircle.org.uk/zoology.html#General%20information
So why did your god create life this way?
[Rest of inane bullshit flushed where it belongs]
Budikka
flores...@hotmail.com
Budikka666 wrote:
> floresriki...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Midjis wrote:
> >
> > > Most of the militant, anti-gay Christians either have not considered this
> > > at all, or have come up with sufficient rationalisation to justify their
> > > own hatred to themselves.
> >
> > Don't try to lay your "blame" on Christians. Most people (and most
> > are hetero) find kornholery and female-female clacker-lapery abnormal
> > and disgusting, and nobody wants a queer for a kid.
> >
> > I'll never forget standing in line to get into a restaurant once, right
> > behind a CLEARLY queer son and his mother. He was going
> > on and on about some bed sheets he'd just bought, and his mom
> > never said a word, she just had this priceless look of absolute
> > disgust on her face the whole time. I don't think the little
> > kornholer even noticed. She was likely thinking 'where the
> > heeelllllll did I go wrong?'
>
> How sad it is for you to go through life in such terror. What are you
> most afraid of - that you envy gays so, or that you might be one?
Love it, as always. Here's the deal: I report a conversation between
a Kornholer and his mom, who is apparently long past disgusted with
her putrid, Kornholing, gerbil packing offspring, cooing on and on
about
his new bed sheets, and this means that I am living in terror, being
envious of queers, and that I might be a queer. Yep, makes perfect
sense! And it took you a day and half to come up with this bit of
brilliant deduction!
> Take the
> pole from your own ass before you imagine you can see one in the ass of
> someone else.
Asses and poles sticking in them.. this is toooo good!!!!!! LMAO
Kornholing atheist loser. No wonder you're so bitter at the normal
functioning set. TSK TSK.
flores...@hotmail.com
Midjis wrote:
> flores...@hotmail.com wrote :
>
> > Yeah I made it all up.
>
Kornholers are known for not recognizing
simple sarcasm.
> > We all know how mom's across America are thrilled
> > to hear their queer-as-a-$3 bill son go on and on about new bed sheets
>
> An irrational obsession of your own. You made the story up, you say, and
> therefore any issues surrounding bed sheets stem from your own mind. This
> mother and son had no such issues.
He was a turdtapper and skin flute player, she was disgusted,
understandably.
BTW, these kneejerk Kornholer responses are so old, they sat next to
Gramma Moses in school. Poor Kornholer, never had an original thought
in his life. (Did your parents ever run away from home?)
flores...@hotmail.com
Midjis wrote:
> flores...@hotmail.com wrote :
>
> > Here's the deal: I report a conversation between
> > a Kornholer and his mom
>
> you, anyway.
See my response to your other post Kornholer. Get a clue.
> And what was that weak attempt to use a followup about? Are you so
> frightened of responses that you need to try to deflect them?
Just appropriate. Your gerbil has clawed its way to your brain,
apparently.
I Love Edsels
Dirty Fags are all a part of God's glorious plan for mankind. So get used to them.
They been around the whole time, they gonna be around the whole time.
Don't like it? Tough shit.
On 13 Jan 2007 01:36:15 -0800, chrishol...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>Robibnikoff wrote:
>> <chrishol...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1168562235....@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
>> > What does God think of the gays?
>>
>> Why the fuck are you asking that in alt.atheism.
>> --
>> Robyn
>> Resident Witchypoo
>> BAAWA Knight!
>> #1557
>
>I am glad you asked.
>
>If god existed, why would have created dirty fags?
>
James
>
> What should be done with gays?
First, determine if being gay is really a conscious choice or not. If
it is find out why because someone would have to be a complete idiot to
choose a lifestyle which would attract unending hate towards themself.
Second, if it is not a choice then we may assume that God made them
that way. Now, since God knows better than us, we should accept that
this is so and leave them be.
Sometimes is better to forget the Bible and do our own thinking. Else
why would God give us intelligence?
No, don't tell me about Satan being involved with brain power. That's
a stupid argument.
I guess some Churchians just have to rag on about others. Hummmm I
suppose they're saved and forgiven already so it's OK.s
Let me just say in closing that I'd rather my daughter were at school
with gay men than with some straighties that I know. That's a fact...
Bye now...
Kope
clash of civilization.
chrishol...@yahoo.com
> Let me just say in closing that I'd rather my daughter were at school
> with gay men than with some straighties that I know. That's a fact...
but what if you had a son at school?
He would be in DANGER.
Here's more food for thought: do gays have the same disease as
pedophiles?
Also, imagine if your daughter shares needles with a fag. (i.e. for Hep
B vaccination or Heroine) - she would get HIV and DIE OF AIDS?
James, do you want your daughter to DIE OF AIDS?
I don't.
ale...@lycos.co.uk
My God is my spiritual soul.
Your God is your spiritual soul.
One thing I have to make clear.
The world is a stage, we are only actors.
Our actions are controlled by the Creator.
But my Confucianism is to solve all this.
See http://members.lycos.co.uk/alexkew/election97.html .
James
Friend, Your's is the posture of fear. God made us all as we are.
Some gays are bad news, most are not. You cite the worst of them.
Let me tell you that I have never heard a gay man rant about Christians
in a condemning way but the reverse is quite common. Is this
Christianity in action? I want no part of it. Throw away your Bible
and think for yourself. God will guide you if you seek His solace.
The Bible was written by MEN. Seek it then, but use your God given
mind, take off your blinders, quit judging others, stop being fearful.
Stand up straight (no pun) and be a man of God for once in your life
instead of a cowering ignoramus.
When we walk in Christ's Light we need not be afraid of gays. One may
walk thusly without being Christian. All of us have equal access to
truth.
G-Net
news:h74jq2tboaem0o9ds...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:05:39 GMT, "G-Net" <netn...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>>Sorry to disappoint you but a "eunuch" is not a gay person. A eunuch
>>is a man who was castrated. So, are you saying that all homosexuals
>>have been or should be castrated?
>
> Sorry to disappoint you but there are many ways to castrate a man.
The way in which someone was castrated does not effect the meaning
of the word "eunuch". If you doubt what I say, look the word up in
the dictionary. The word eunuch has nothing to do with someone's
sexual preferences.
> It you do the research you will find it says this. Some men even
> castrate themselves. Any Man who will not have sex with a woman
> or play 'ed the female roll was considered castrated.
> The Homosexuals held great political power. Dew in great part to
> the fact they would not support the lies about Christ and the false
> doctrines of the church So over time they were blackballed.
>>
>>> 5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place
>>> and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an
>>> everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
>>>
>>> We call them homosexuals.
>>>
> .
> Mic...@thelastchurch.org
> alt.religion/the-last-church
> Http://www.thelastchurch.org
> http://cafepress.com/the_last_church
>
> A preacher is the blind leading the blind.
Robibnikoff
<ale...@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1168822742....@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
> If you meditate, you can change your gene and your fate.
What a load. Meditation can't change your genes.
>
> My God is my spiritual soul.
> Your God is your spiritual soul.
Are you on something?
Al Klein
>ARE YOU HAPPY FOR GAY TO TEACH IN OUR SCHOOLS?
If they're qualified in the subject they're teaching and know how to
get it across to the students.
> GO TO OUR PARKS?
Depends on what they do when they get there. Tear the park up with an
ATV? No!
>Did you see what happened to Saddam?
He was hanged so that Shrub could show how macho he was.
> Perhaps that should happen to all gays.
Or to all homophobes?
Al Klein
>All gays are dirty and have aids
Except for the clean ones and the childless ones.
Al Klein
>> Let me just say in closing that I'd rather my daughter were at school
>> with gay men than with some straighties that I know. That's a fact...
>
>but what if you had a son at school?
>
>He would be in DANGER.
Not as much danger as he'd be from a predatory heterosexual female
teacher.
>Here's more food for thought: do gays have the same disease as
>pedophiles?
Gay pedophiles or straight pedophiles?
>Also, imagine if your daughter shares needles with a fag. (i.e. for Hep
>B vaccination or Heroine) - she would get HIV and DIE OF AIDS?
If she shared needles with ANYONE who's HIV-positive, gay or straight.
Homosexuality doesn't cause AIDS and heterosexuality doesn't prevent
it.
>James, do you want your daughter to DIE OF AIDS?
Better than dying of stupidity.
ale...@lycos.co.uk
religion. See below.
If Sri Lanka does not revert to the old parliamentary system, with
figure head president and executive PM, then you are Doomed.
See http://members.lycos.co.uk/alexkew/election97.html on my
Confucianism.
The TRUTH
ale...@lycos.co.uk
I preach no religion. See below.
If Sri Lanka does not revert to the old parliamentary system, with
figure head president and executive PM, then you are Doomed.
See http://members.lycos.co.uk/alexkew/election97.html on my
Confucianism.
The TRUTH
cactus
And the ones who don't have AIDS
chrishol...@yahoo.com
Cos if there are dirty faggot in heaven, that would be my hell.
John Baker
>Do gays go to heaven or hell?
>
>
>Cos if there are dirty faggot in heaven, that would be my hell.
No, gays don't go to heaven, because there is no heaven. But trolls go
to the killfile.
<PLONK!>
John Baker
>You are teaching me what to do ? Save your breath. I am preaching no
>religion. See below.
You are an idiot.
Enkidu
51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
> Do gays go to heaven or hell?
>
>
> Cos if there are dirty faggot in heaven, that would be my hell.
>
>
Cool! Sounds like God may have a good plan after all!
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons,
sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on
water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say
that we are the ones that need help?
-- Jon Stoll
Michael Voytinsky
> What does God think of the gays?
He thinks that gay men are the people to go to for fashion advice.
He thinks that the lesbians are the ones to go to for advice about
comfortable footwear.
> Is being gay wrong?
No.
> What should be done with gays?
Invite them to a party at your house. But not all of them at once.
Robibnikoff
<ale...@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1168909770.6...@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> If you don't meditate, get lost !
Screw you, dickhead. Don't post to alt.atheism if you can't handle the
responses.
duke
>>Cos if there are dirty faggot in heaven, that would be my hell.
>No, gays don't go to heaven, because there is no heaven. But trolls go
>to the killfile.
><PLONK!>
Wow, what a classic case of an atheist running away, just like bud the dud runs
away. Hide from open discussion by plonking.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
James
ale...@lycos.co.uk wrote:
> You are teaching me what to do ? Save your breath. I am preaching no
> religion. See below.
No you big dummy. I was telling "Chrisholland2..." what to do.
I Love Edsels
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
Martin Willett
> On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:24:16 GMT, "G-Net" <netn...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>> The way in which someone was castrated does not effect the meaning
>> of the word "eunuch". If you doubt what I say, look the word up in
>> the dictionary. The word eunuch has nothing to do with someone's
>> sexual preferences.
>
> does it? The written word will always be corrupted.
>
It will be whenever it is in range of you, Rippie.
Rippie's Lie Number One: that Jesus told his disciples not to write
anything down because the written word will always be corrupted. An idea
that he is the only person in two thousand years to subscribe to.
Eunuchs were well known in those times, castrated men. Not homosexuals.
Give it up Rippie you're wrong.
--
Martin Willett
Bible Believer
<he...@ford.com> claimed:
>God made gays.
No, God made man.
>Free your ass and your mind will follow.
Thank you for showing how perverse homosexuals are
and how sex is all that's on their mind.
--
The Bible is the inerrant word of the living God!
If you don't believe the Bible, don't tell me that
you are a Christian. I won't believe you. To make
that claim, is to be a heretic who does not know God.
JessHC
Bible Believer wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 03:14:48 GMT, I Love Edsels
> <he...@ford.com> claimed:
>
>
> >God made gays.
>
> No, God made man.
God didn't make everything?
> >Free your ass and your mind will follow.
>
> Thank you for showing how perverse homosexuals are
> and how sex is all that's on their mind.
Thank you for showing how theists reject reality.
Bible Believer
<jes...@phantomemail.com> claimed:
>Bible Believer wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 03:14:48 GMT, I Love Edsels
>> <he...@ford.com> claimed:
>>
>>
>> >God made gays.
>>
>> No, God made man.
>
>God didn't make everything?
A comment like that, only proves that you're not too bright.
>> >Free your ass and your mind will follow.
>>
>> Thank you for showing how perverse homosexuals are
>> and how sex is all that's on their mind.
>
>Thank you for showing how theists reject reality.
So I guess you're saying that "reality = I want a man's ass"?
fla...@verizon.net
Well, certainly his brand of theist....
Susan
Chris Morris
"Martin Willett" <mwille...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:5160ckF...@mid.individual.net...
Considering we do not have anything that Jesus and his followers ever wrote
themselves is not a new idea and it is in fact well known since most of the
followers of Jesus at the time were in fact illiterates and any writting
would have been done by scribes. Now later copying was done in the early
Church by anyone that could write. There were very few professional scribes
among the Early Christians, of course there were exceprtions since our Best
Witnesses of the time come from the Writtings of Alexandria.
> http://mwillett.org/
Martin Willett
What we don't have is any evidence in writing that says that Jesus told
his disciples not to write anything down as the written word will always
be corrupted until Wednesday 4th June 1997 [Big Lie Day] when Michael
Rippie posts Rippie's Lie Number One for the first time on
a.bsu.religion,alt.religion.christian,talk.atheism,alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.atheism/msg/c5560b58fd9c5dad?dmode=source
You can tell the first paragraph is a Rippie original because of the
poor standard of English and a few tell-tale shibboleths (his inability
to use conjoined words)
"The greatest deceiver is one who first deceives him self. Belief in
any book as the whole truth is a case of the blind leading the blind.
Jesus said not to write any books or bibles because the written word
will always be corrupted. Matthew, mark, Luke, john and the boys were
careful not to leave any writings behind when they died, yet there names
are used as writers of a bible.
One does not need a book to know the force. Know one knows the name
of God so God is not its name. And it is not male nor female, yet it
is. It can only be called the force for that is what it is. It can not
be found in books nor church but it can be found in you. "
You could search until the end of time but you will not find anybody
else expressing those words or sentiments. Rippie made them up. He
believes he lives in The Mind of Christ so whatever ideas he has he can
say they come from Jesus, ordinary laws and codes of behaviour do not
apply to Him. (And yes, he does often use "holy capitals" and the the
royal we when referring to himself)
While looking for the source of the other, better written material also
contained in that post (Rippie Lie Number One, first draft) I found this:
While reading messages posted in the Universal Life Church usenet
newsgroup, I came across a piece that was claimed to be written by
Michael E. Ripple of the Last Church, called "The World's Most Dangerous
Book". An astute reader pointed out (in 2004) that the piece was in
fact written by Alan W. Watts and first appeared in the December, 1973
issue of Playboy.
http://www.metaphoria.org/ac4t9909.html
Ha, Rippie caught plagiarizing yet again. Playboy. Classic.