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Tracey12

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Jul 13, 2012, 4:25:47 PM7/13/12
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We now have a black president and a white VP.

Will the VP position now be used to seek out miniority votes by becoming
the default minority filled position when a white president is runing?

We've seen Marco Rubio considered because of his minority attractiveness in
Florida.

Now, Condi Rice is being considered because she is a double miniority, both
female and black.

wy

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Jul 13, 2012, 4:42:37 PM7/13/12
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Ever get the feeling that life is just getting darker for you?

AlleyCat

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Jul 13, 2012, 9:02:57 PM7/13/12
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In article <XnsA08F9CEFFFDFCtr...@88.198.244.100>,
tracey...@gmail.com says...
I'd much rather have a black VP that CAN'T fuck the nation up. Female is
not a minority, idgit... they are over half the population. They were
given minority status by limp-wristed liberal democraps, because they
really can't compete with men, unless they are given special treatment,
just like blacks (the world's best at NOT being able to compete. Name
ONE black nation that has prospered without white intervention, or
resources). That's the truth, not just me being racist. I AM racist.. I
DO love my race more than any other... just like blacks. Call me a
racist.. I DON'T CARE!!

AlleyCat

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Jul 13, 2012, 9:15:08 PM7/13/12
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... and giving amnesty to millions of illegal mexican immigrants is
somehow not? I don't remember who said it first, but liberalism truly
is a form of mental illness. They really can't fathom reality, only what
they want to see in their little impossible utopian mind.

Ramon F. Herrera

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Jul 14, 2012, 4:15:54 AM7/14/12
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On Jul 13, 8:15 pm, AlleyCat <al...@aohell.com> wrote:

> ... and giving amnesty to millions of illegal mexican
> immigrants is somehow not?  I don't remember who said it first,
> but liberalism truly is a form of mental illness. They really
> can't fathom reality, only what they want to see in their
> little impossible utopian mind.

It is quite interesting that you are calling Liberals:

- All White House administrations since Ronald Reagan
- All US Churches
- All US Businesses
- Rupert Murdoch and his gang of CEOs

Since they all happen to be on the same side -opposite yours- on
immigration. The above groups have UNANIMOUS support for Comprehensive
Immigration Reform (which necessarily implies a Path to Legalization
and Citizenship). Two presidential candidates have promised it.

"One of the reason I took the DREAM Act decision was to satisfy the
businesses, who have been lobbying for it" -Barack Obama

Funny thing that you far conservatives folks don't have the first clue
about Free Enterprise and capitalism. Here's a visual aid:

http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/GOP-Stake.gif

-Ramon
Proud Member of the US Chamber of Commerce (regular and Hispanic)
So quit calling me commie, will ya'?
100% Supporter of the position on immigration being
lobbied and led by The US Chamber of Commerce

Ramon F. Herrera

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Jul 14, 2012, 4:22:33 AM7/14/12
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On Jul 13, 8:02 pm, AlleyCat <al...@aohell.com> wrote:
> That's the truth, not just me being racist. I AM racist.. I
> DO love my race more than any other... just like blacks. Call me a
> racist.. I DON'T CARE!!

You are NOT racist - As long as there is no hatred, you are fine. Look
at some of the things I have written along the years:

"I am proud of my race, the white race"

"The white race is the most successful in history"

"The white race rocks!! (although we do not always rule)"

-Ramon The Non-Whitey White

ps: Some of the readers should hang this on the wall, as a reminder:

"Bigots (and racists) talk as if they had begotten their own
ancestors."
-- Herbert Agar

Ramon F. Herrera

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Jul 14, 2012, 4:29:08 AM7/14/12
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On Jul 13, 8:15 pm, AlleyCat <al...@aohell.com> wrote:
> I don't remember who said it first, but liberalism truly
> is a form of mental illness. They really can't fathom reality,
> only what they want to see in their little impossible
> utopian mind.

"That may be the case, dear son: We may indeed have been inflicted by
a mental illness, but we managed to envision and create the greatest
nation the world have ever known - Not too shabby!!"

-Signed: The Founders

ps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQn3vBSxdZE

Ramon F. Herrera

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Jul 14, 2012, 4:41:00 AM7/14/12
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On Jul 13, 8:15 pm, AlleyCat <al...@aohell.com> wrote:
> I don't remember who said it first, but liberalism truly
> is a form of mental illness.

----------------------------------------------------------------
"Esteemed AlleyCat: That may be the case, we may have been afflicted
by a mental illness, but our accomplishments have been not too
shabby!!"

- Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, The Google Boys, Mark Zuckerberg and pretty
much everybody who is in high tech
----------------------------------------------------------------


-Ramon (Internet/Usenet Pioneer and co-founder while at MIT)

(*) Gracias, Al!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Al_Gore_and_information_technology

Ramon F. Herrera

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Jul 14, 2012, 5:06:48 AM7/14/12
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On Jul 13, 8:15 pm, AlleyCat <al...@aohell.com> wrote:
> Liberalism truly is a form of mental illness.
> They really can't fathom reality

Almost any group that we can envision which has a much higher than
average intelligence is Liberal:

- Academia
- Scientists
- Media
- Hollywood (not the actors)
- High Tech

I will give you the benefit of the doubt on this group which *may* be
conservatives:

- Wall Street types

Q.E.D.

-Ramon

ps:

"Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice"
http://news.yahoo.com/low-iq-conservative-beliefs-linked-prejudice-180403506.html

Ramon F. Herrera

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Jul 14, 2012, 5:22:06 AM7/14/12
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On Jul 13, 3:25 pm, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Will the VP position now be used to seek out miniority
> votes by becoming the default minority filled position
> when a white president is running?

No, what it confirms is that the GOP is becoming painfully aware of
the severe damage that the hateful wing (you being a notorious
activist) has inflicted. Some say the wound is mortal.

My Miami amigos tell me that Jeb Bush plans to run on that platform,
will ride to rescue the GOP from the teahadists, atop his brown horse
in 2016. He is counting on Romney's defeat, and is ready to blame the
likes of you.

-Ramon

Kenny McCormack

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Jul 14, 2012, 5:33:09 AM7/14/12
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In article <a6182190-b161-45c6...@l32g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Ramon F. Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
...
>"Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice"
>http://news.yahoo.com/low-iq-conservative-beliefs-linked-prejudice-180403506.html

heh heh.

Isn't that about the equivalent of saying that, after years of exhaustive
research, we have established a definite link between cigarettes and
tobacco?

Next week, we'll be announcing a link between that big yellow ball in the
sky and sunshine...

--
One of the best lines I've heard lately:

Obama could cure cancer tomorrow, and the Republicans would be
complaining that he had ruined the pharmaceutical business.

(Heard on Stephanie Miller = but the sad thing is that there is an awful lot
of direct truth in it. We've constructed an economy in which eliminating
cancer would be a horrible disaster. There are many other such examples.)

Mike Smith

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Jul 14, 2012, 7:17:21 AM7/14/12
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You poor stupid fool. Our Founders were NOT liberals, by any stretch
of your deluded imagination.

Mike Smith

Mike Smith

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Jul 14, 2012, 7:21:36 AM7/14/12
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 02:06:48 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:

>
>On Jul 13, 8:15 pm, AlleyCat <al...@aohell.com> wrote:
> > Liberalism truly is a form of mental illness.
> > They really can't fathom reality
>
>Almost any group that we can envision which has a much higher than
>average intelligence is Liberal:

BWAHAhahAHAHAHAHaHhaHAhAHhahah

This is WAY too funny! The ridiculous hoops you libtards have to jump
through to make yourselves feel important is hilariously stupid.

>
> - Academia = educated idiots (see obama's czars)
> - Scientists = lie
> - Media = dumbest profession on this planet
> - Hollywood (not the actors) = drug infested imbeciles (let's do lunch)
> - High Tech = lie
>

Good one Ramon... Hilariously funny and oh-so stupid, about what I
expect from you libtards.

Mike Smith

Ramon F. Herrera

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Jul 14, 2012, 11:08:59 AM7/14/12
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On Jul 14, 6:21 am, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:

> - High Tech = lie

Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, the Google boys, Mark Zuckerberg... for
starters.

Let's see yours.

-Ramon Who Actually Has Worked in High Tech even before graduation.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203458604577261342745473460.html

Ramon F. Herrera

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Jul 14, 2012, 11:13:39 AM7/14/12
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On Jul 14, 6:17 am, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:

> You poor stupid fool. Our Founders were NOT liberals, by any stretch
> of your deluded imagination.
>
> Mike Smith

The Founding Fathers Were Liberals

http://critterscrap.blogspot.com/2011/07/founding-fathers-were-liberals.html

-Ramon

Ramon F. Herrera

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Jul 14, 2012, 11:15:07 AM7/14/12
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On Jul 14, 6:21 am, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:

> - Academia = educated idiots

You just insulted the educated people of America (and their
universities) and then you wonder why your party is on its way to
extinction.

-Ramon

Ramon F Herrera

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Jul 14, 2012, 11:20:14 AM7/14/12
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Hey Mike and right winger folks:

Let's recap the Herrera Challenge.

Have you found ANY evidence that Free Enterprise is on your side and
racism on mine, in the immigration issue??

How hard can that be??? All you need is ONE church (*) and ONE company
(**) willing to support your position and you win!

-Ramon

(*) Out of 350,000
(**) Out of 29+ million

----------------------------------

From a Washington Post thread:

j3hess
3:09 PM CDT
If the issue was only economic and the discussion was rational, we
would have had a fix back when president G.W. Bush proposed it.

But the vitriol suggests this isn't an economic issue, it is a purity
issue. It is about dark-skinned unclean lower-class people sullying
our white middle-class society. (This is why Asians get to be white -
the ones who make it here these days are middle/professional/business
class.)

This is NOT to say that everyone concerned about immigration is
racist. But this is where a lot of the heat comes from. This is why
immigrants are accused of committing disproportional amounts of crime.
Since it is socially unacceptable to be outwardly racist, the springs
of residual racism find another outlet.

Mike Smith

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Jul 14, 2012, 3:01:01 PM7/14/12
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:08:59 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
<gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote:

>On Jul 14, 6:21 am, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
>
> > - High Tech = lie
>
>Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, the Google boys, Mark Zuckerberg... for
>starters.
>
>Let's see yours.

Fuck off moron... You obviously believe there are only 5 people
working in HiTech.

Mike Smith

Mike Smith

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Jul 14, 2012, 3:02:21 PM7/14/12
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:20:14 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera
<gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote:

>Hey Mike and right winger folks:
>
>Let's recap the Herrera Challenge.
>
>Have you found ANY evidence that Free Enterprise is on your side and
>racism on mine, in the immigration issue??
>
>How hard can that be??? All you need is ONE church (*) and ONE company
>(**) willing to support your position and you win!
>
>-Ramon

How many times do you need to be beat over your head? I have refuted
your ridiculous challenge multiple times.

Mike Smith

Mike Smith

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Jul 14, 2012, 3:04:00 PM7/14/12
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You and critterscrap can believe anything your emotionally-based
delusional fantasies can imagine. Your fantasies are not true.

Mike Smith
Message has been deleted

Ramon F. Herrera

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Jul 14, 2012, 7:35:25 PM7/14/12
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On Jul 14, 2:02 pm, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:20:14 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera
>
> <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote:
> >Hey Mike and right winger folks:
>
> >Let's recap the Herrera Challenge.
>
> >Have you found ANY evidence that Free Enterprise is on your side and
> >racism on mine, in the immigration issue??
>
> >How hard can that be??? All you need is ONE church (*) and ONE company
> >(**) willing to support your position and you win!
>
> >-Ramon
>

> How many times do you need to be beat over your head?
> I have refuted your ridiculous challenge multiple times.
>
> Mike Smith

Link? URL? Copy & paste? Witness?? Wishful thinking? LIE?

How hard is it to post ONE company and ONE church?

Internet does not charge by the word. Please re-post.

How come you are THE ONLY conservative in America that has "refuted"
my challenge??? Are you surrounded by a bunch of inepts???

-Ramon

Ramon F. Herrera

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Jul 14, 2012, 7:40:03 PM7/14/12
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On Jul 14, 2:01 pm, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:08:59 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
>
> <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 14, 6:21 am, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
>
> > > - High Tech = lie
>
>> Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, the Google boys, Mark Zuckerberg...
>> for starters.
>
> >Let's see yours.
>
> Fuck off moron... You obviously believe there are only 5 people
> working in HiTech.

What part of "for starters" didn't you understand?

Where are YOUR high tech people??? In fact, I am willing to take ANY
BUSINESS, I don't care what industry. There are 29+ million companies
in the USA, just cite ONE on you side, and I lose!!!

-Ramon

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203458604577261342745473460.html
http://www.ushcc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Page.viewPage&pageId=513&parentID=558

Kenny McCormack

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Jul 14, 2012, 7:41:37 PM7/14/12
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In article <2bt308th3ta6en1l1...@4ax.com>,
<Yoor...@Jurgis.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:01:01 -0500, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
>
>>Fuck off moron... You obviously believe there are only 5 people
>>working in HiTech.
>
>Obviously you sure aint...

It's really funny (and sad, at the same time) how these morons prove
everything we say about them, every time they post. Really, we need do
nothing.

--
Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as foolish,
and by the rulers as useful.

(Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)

Ramon F. Herrera

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Jul 14, 2012, 7:58:34 PM7/14/12
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On Jul 14, 6:41 pm, gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack)
wrote:

> It's really funny (and sad, at the same time) how these
> morons prove everything we say about them, every time
> they post.  Really, we need do nothing.

Precisely!

I only need to post a few names of the LEADERS, the people at THE TOP,
the VISIONARIES, the ones that were FOLLOWED.

- Al Gore
- Bill Gates
- Steve Wozniak
- Steve Jobs (now, his wife)
- The Google Boys
- Mark Suckerberg
- Linus Torvalds
- Richard Stallman
- Ramon F. Herrera (more famous than the rest COMBINED) :-)
- (too many to mention)

All I ask from the other side is ONE. ONE high tech personality who is
conservative. Is that too much to ask????

-Ramon

ps: I will give you TWO, both California chicks: Carly Fiorina and Meg
Whitman (*).

http://www.nndb.com/people/445/000045310/
http://www.nndb.com/people/705/000031612/

(*) "In 2009, Whitman called for "a path to legalization" of illegal
immigrants"
(she is on MY SIDE)

MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

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"Ramon F. Herrera"
...
> I only need to post a few names of the LEADERS, the people at THE TOP,
> the VISIONARIES, the ones that were FOLLOWED.
...


And that is always the LIB answer:
to FOLLOW, to OBEY, OR ELSE...


http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/160688.jpg
What do you mean WE Paleface?



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What have YOU done to Deserve Freedom Today?
Is the struggle to remain free a to be considered
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---
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What CTHILLARY stands for:
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On Jul 14, 7:06 pm, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
<ExPresid...@au.revoir.gov> wrote:
> "Ramon F. Herrera"
> ...> I only need to post a few names of the LEADERS, the people at THE TOP,
> > the VISIONARIES, the ones that were FOLLOWED.
>
> ...
>

> And that is always the LIB answer:
>  to FOLLOW, to OBEY, OR ELSE...

In FREE ENTERPRISE that works for me... Nobody is putting a gun to
your head.

Think Christopher Columbus, Einstein, Apple, Edison, Galileo,
Lindbergh (*), etc.

I am not sure whether Howard Hughes is on your side or mine...

-Ramon
Proud Member of the US Chamber of Commerce (regular and Hispanic)
So quit calling me commie, will ya'?
100% Supporter of the position on immigration being
lobbied and led by The US Chamber of Commerce
-------------------------------------------------------------

(*) Bad example!! He was racist, like far conservative folks...

Ramon F. Herrera

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On Jul 14, 7:06 pm, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
<ExPresid...@au.revoir.gov> wrote:
> "Ramon F. Herrera"
>> I only need to post a few names of the LEADERS, the people at THE
TOP,
>> the VISIONARIES, the ones that were FOLLOWED.
>
> And that is always the LIB answer:
>  to FOLLOW, to OBEY, OR ELSE...

There is a trivial way to determine which of the two political
ideologies has "blind obedience to authority"

Follow the money... er, I mean: "Follow the Religion".

To what party are theocrats, bible-thumpers attracted???

-Ramon

"I do not belong to any organized political party ... I am a democrat"
-Will Rogers

MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

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Jul 14, 2012, 8:32:36 PM7/14/12
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"Ramon F. Herrera"
> On Jul 14, 7:06 pm, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
> > "Ramon F. Herrera"
> >> I only need to post a few names of the LEADERS, the people at THE
> TOP,
> >> the VISIONARIES, the ones that were FOLLOWED.
> >
> > And that is always the LIB answer:
> >  to FOLLOW, to OBEY, OR ELSE...
>
> There is a trivial way to determine which of the two political
> ideologies has "blind obedience to authority"
>
> Follow the money... er, I mean: "Follow the Religion".
>
> To what party are theocrats, bible-thumpers attracted???


If you really are a free enterpriser
Why do you feel threatened by what other people believe?


The mark of the LIB is the NEED to Control.
They believe they can Fake Reality just as they
can fake the character of the 'man', the 'brand' OBAMA.


Their Ceaseless Quest for the Unearned remains
forever Ceaseless because the Value illicitly obtained retains no Value.


LIBs. What PRICE their Vision?
---
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On Jul 14, 3:01 pm, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:08:59 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
>
> <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 14, 6:21 am, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
>
> > > - High Tech = lie
>
> >Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, the Google boys, Mark Zuckerberg... for
> >starters.
>
> >Let's see yours.
>
> Fuck off moron... You obviously believe there are only 5 people
> working in HiTech.
>
Mike was...then they moved the assembly lines to China, and he lost
his job greasing them.


Paul

Paul Duca

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> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020345860457726134274547...

Don't bother with Mike...he didn't think he was smart until Rush
started telling him he was.


Paul

Ramon F. Herrera

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On Jul 14, 7:32 pm, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
<ExPresid...@au.revoir.gov> wrote:

> If you really are a free enterpriser
> Why do you feel threatened by what other people believe?

I do not feel threatened by beliefs, only by power (actual and
potential), such as the one held by KKK, NeoNazis, tehadists, baggers
and haters in general (all on the right side). Meanwhile the power
held by the far left is so insignificant (they are chained in the
basement) that I do not lose a second of sleep.

> Why do you feel threatened by what other people believe?

Oh, I am very glad I found a fellow believer in Marriage Equality!!

-Ramon

Ramon F. Herrera

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On Jul 14, 7:32 pm, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
<ExPresid...@au.revoir.gov> wrote:

> A Taxpayer voting for OBAMA is like a Chicken voting for Col.

"Do you have a remote idea how many chicken would NEVER have existed
without me??"

-Signed: Harland David "Colonel" Sanders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harland_Sanders

"We agree fully"
- The Chicken

Mike Smith

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:35:25 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:

>On Jul 14, 2:02 pm, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:20:14 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera
>>
>> <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote:
>> >Hey Mike and right winger folks:
>>
>> >Let's recap the Herrera Challenge.
>>
>> >Have you found ANY evidence that Free Enterprise is on your side and
>> >racism on mine, in the immigration issue??
>>
>> >How hard can that be??? All you need is ONE church (*) and ONE company
>> >(**) willing to support your position and you win!
>>
>> >-Ramon
>>
>
> > How many times do you need to be beat over your head?
> > I have refuted your ridiculous challenge multiple times.
> >
> > Mike Smith
>
>Link? URL? Copy & paste? Witness?? Wishful thinking? LIE?
>
>How hard is it to post ONE company and ONE church?
>
>Internet does not charge by the word. Please re-post.
>

OK, dude, we can go down this road again. Post the name of a company
you say sides with you about hiring illegal aliens, and their policy
that backs up your fantasy.

Mike Smith

Mike Smith

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:40:03 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:

>On Jul 14, 2:01 pm, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:08:59 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
>>
>> <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote:
>> >On Jul 14, 6:21 am, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > - High Tech = lie
>>
> >> Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, the Google boys, Mark Zuckerberg...
> >> for starters.
> >
> > >Let's see yours.
> >
> > Fuck off moron... You obviously believe there are only 5 people
> > working in HiTech.
>
>What part of "for starters" didn't you understand?
>
>Where are YOUR high tech people??? In fact, I am willing to take ANY
>BUSINESS, I don't care what industry. There are 29+ million companies
>in the USA, just cite ONE on you side, and I lose!!!
>
>-Ramon

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/221151-conservative-group-makes-1m-high-tech-investment-to-help-tea-party-groups
American Majority Action, a rising force among the conservative grass
roots, has made a nearly $1 million investment in technology to put
Tea Party activists on even footing with President Obama’s election
campaign.

Conservative strategists behind the effort want to identify issues
that drive independents who vote frequently. The goal is to be able to
craft campaign messages that will get independents out the door and
voting for conservative candidates on Election Day.

You lose.

(and I did not even bring up Rush Limbaugh)

Mike Smith

MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

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"Ramon F. Herrera"
> On Jul 14, 7:32 pm, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
>
> > If you really are a free enterpriser
> > Why do you feel threatened by what other people believe?
>
> I do not feel threatened by beliefs, only by power ...


Yet you would deny people the one power which is rightly theirs,
the power to dissent from you and choose their own way,
that too is the mark of a LIB,

LIBs need to control ALL or admit that they control NOTHING.


"Every aspect of our lives must be subjected to an inventory"
-- Shameless Politico THUG, Nancy Pelosi'09


If greatness only requires one to be a LIB,
what Great Contribution have you personally made?


Second Hander-ness, the taking of unearned credit for
the achievement of others, is the sine qua non of a LIB.
Is this NOT what you are implying?


LIBs do not believe in Individual Rights,
only in the right of one individual to lead a gang or mob
whereby the rest of the mob acceeds to a token 'right' of
temporary second-handed glory from the ill-gotten gains of its leader.

'Great Artists Steal'
Steve Jobs.


This is why LIBs are 'lost' without OBAMA (and CTHILLARY). (S)He
'defines' them. Their infamy 'empowers' them. His willingness
sacrifice some so that 'they' may live gives them hope that in
appeasing 'him' he will sacrifice 'them' last...

This is the way of the LIB.


'Intolerant governments across the globe are "slowly crushing"
activist and advocacy groups that play an essential role in
the development of democracy'
-- HILLARY'10 barely containing her knowing smile,
as legions of armed drones circle above cities,
above the Innocent and the Unknowning while
Desperate and Deliberately Evil Politicos
slaughter millions in order to enslave the rest.


LIBs follow a leadership not just mistaken, but Evil.

Evil has no power when the Good remain unafraid which is why
LIBs require the general constituency to live in FEAR for having
abandoned their only means of survival, and GUILT for knowing that
they have done so willingly.


LIB Strategic Insanity can and must be defeated.


LIBs. What Price their Vision?
---
LIBs plead for a Morality which holds COMPROMISE as its standard of
Value, making it possible to judge Virtue on the basis of the number of
Values which one is willing to Betray.


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MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

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"Ramon F. Herrera"
Moral relativism is another mark of a LIB.

It is true, ISRAEL would not have existed without a brief
tragic flirtation with Fascism in Germany in the 20th century.
Does that justify the deaths of 6million Jews, and 20million Poles?


Were we to blindly follow OBAMA
should we NOT live with the faint hope
of being one of those survivors to make it to his promised land?
A World Safe for Socialism
where Absolutely Everything is
owned by everyone and enjoyed by none?

A World where the Will of the People
is in Evidence Everywhere yet existant in no one?

A World where the Guilty are Rewarded
where the Innocent are Punished,
where the Mediocre, the Unworthy, the Depraved
are championed on the basis of their Depravity?


A World where moral relativism rules
granting muslims a shine at 9/11's ground zero
just as they would grant the Hitler Youth a memorial at Guernica.


"We'll actually have to work very hard to kill
as many people in the 21st century.
What's the difference?
This time, you think the victim could be you,"
Clinton'07


LIBs. What PRICE their Vision?
---
If it is Peace that you want, it is Dictatorship you must oppose.
If it is WAR that you wish to prevent, it is the Expropriation
of Private Capital you must oppose. WAR, in fact, is only
possible when the wealth of the nation is held by its
leaders rather than being righly utilized by its citizens.

OBAMA, the first $Billion Presidential Candidate spent $1Billion/hour
continually for the first 100 days of his office guarenting a WAR
beyond all Historical Precident -- Nobel Peace prize notwithstanding.


"It would be wrong to cut off contact with the terror group just because
they may have killed people "in a way that we hate."
-- Bill Clinton'06

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/117871.gif
ARCH-TRAITOR


History repeats itself, first as Tragedy (Clinton), then as FARCE (OBAMA).

"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists
and other potential adversaries around the world that
they can change our policies by killing our people.
It would be open season on Americans."
-- Bill Clinton '93
just before he pulled out of Somalia.


To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against
alQaeda from a distance -- would significantly hamper our ability to
keep the pressure on al Qaeda, and create an unacceptable risk of
additional attacks on our homeland and our allies.
-- OBAMA'09

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Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)

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On Jul 14, 8:06 pm, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
<ExPresid...@au.revoir.gov> wrote:
> "Ramon F. Herrera"
> ...> I only need to post a few names of the LEADERS, the people at THE TOP,
> > the VISIONARIES, the ones that were FOLLOWED.
>
> ...
>
> And that is always the LIB answer:
>  to FOLLOW, to OBEY, OR ELSE...
>

I can't wait to see Mitt pat Manfred on the head when he doesn't
FOLLOW or OBEY him.....

Paul

Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)

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On Jul 14, 10:23 pm, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:40:03 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
>
>
>
> <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> >On Jul 14, 2:01 pm, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:08:59 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
>
> >> <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote:
> >> >On Jul 14, 6:21 am, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
>
> >> > > - High Tech = lie
>
> > >> Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, the Google boys, Mark Zuckerberg...
> > >> for starters.
>
> > > >Let's see yours.
>
> > > Fuck off moron... You obviously believe there are only 5 people
> > > working in HiTech.
>
> >What part of "for starters" didn't you understand?
>
> >Where are YOUR high tech people??? In fact, I am willing to take ANY
> >BUSINESS, I don't care what industry. There are 29+ million companies
> >in the USA, just cite ONE on you side, and I lose!!!
>
> >-Ramon
>
> http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/221151-conservati...
> American Majority Action, a rising force among the conservative grass
> roots, has made a nearly $1 million investment in technology to put
> Tea Party activists on even footing with President Obama’s election
> campaign.
>
> Conservative strategists behind the effort want to identify issues
> that drive independents who vote frequently. The goal is to be able to
> craft campaign messages that will get independents out the door and
> voting for conservative candidates on Election Day.
>
> As if we didn't give the simpletons enough empty promises of GOP supplied jobs....
>
>
>
> Mike Smith

Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)

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On Jul 14, 11:05 pm, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

sounds like he expects Mitt to pay people for flag waving....the only
job he's capable of holding.


Paul

Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)

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On Jul 15, 12:07 am, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 17:35:41 -0700 (PDT), Paul Duca
> Actually, his job was being greased (up)
>
> Barrels in compounds of his are required and he enjoyed it.

That's why he's trying to compensate....by humping all the neighbor
wives while Mrs. Smith is at work supporting him. However, too many
hubbies are also home and unemployed. Mike dreams that Mitt will get
THEM back to work, so HE can get back in their beds.

Paul

MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

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"Paul Duca
> I can't wait to see Mitt pat Manfred on the head when he doesn't
> FOLLOW or OBEY him.....



The NEED for a leader to follow
should be considered NOUGHT but a weakness to overcome.


Nothing is more powerful than a people that have been
LIED TO and CHEATED out of a future worth having.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CZ-4gnNz0vc
FOUR YEARS OF OBAMA IN A NUTSHELL



LIBs are 'lost' without OBAMA (and CTHILLARY).

(S)He 'defines' them.
Their infamy 'empowers' them.
His willingness sacrifice some so that 'they' may live
gives them hope that in appeasing 'him' he will sacrifice 'them' last...


SUCH would not be Tolerated in a society with a Long Memory.
Good Men can no longer do Absolutely Nothing without
becoming OBAMA's (and indeed) Evil's Accomplice.



LIBs. What PRICE their Vision?
---
Sooner or later you figure out that pragmatism and compromise
are principles in a democracy. It's not selling out your convictions.
-- CLINTON'05.


Pragmatism and compromise ARE PRECISELY selling-out on your convictions,
as-if destruction of a Value which exists, somehow brings value
to that which is not, nor ever will be.




http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38884
Conduct Unbecoming Part I

Over the next two years, however, my experiences in the Clinton White
House turned my gratitude and awe into shock, revulsion, and sorrow as
I experienced the cavalier and self-serving way Clinton went about the
business of running our country. I wrote my first book, Dereliction of
Duty, documenting our former President's contempt for the military, his
indifference to important issues except insofar as they served his own
political or personal purposes, and his failure to accept his
responsibilities as our commander-in-chief. Indeed, it is my sincere
belief that the dereliction of duty and negligence of Bill Clinton
paved the way for the tragic events and deaths of September 11, 2001.


http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38893
Obama’s Secret Link to Hamas, Part II

At the time I left my position in the Clinton White House I certainly
couldn’t have imagined we’d elect anyone more inept than Bill Clinton.
Nor could I have predicted that just seven years after we’d been
attacked and gone to war, we’d elect the most radical left-wing
president in our nation’s history. Few seem to have noticed, until
recently, that Barack Obama is inclined to dispense with the key
precepts our forefathers valued: a robust defense of American
sovereignty and our national interest for one; limited government for
another; fiscal prudence for a third.


Paul Duca

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On Jul 15, 10:10 am, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE Long Out Of Work
wrote:
> "Paul Duca
>
> > I can't wait to see Mitt pat Manfred on the head when he doesn't
> > FOLLOW or OBEY him.....
>
> The NEED for a leader to follow
> should be considered NOUGHT but a weakness to overcome...but I don't want to.
>
> That's why I do what I want and PRETEND it leads to a patriotic reward approved by the man in charge only when I need it.

MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

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Paul Duca
>> That's why I do,,,


Moral Vandalism is what LIBs do.
They seek first to deprive you of
your Virtue and then your very LIFE.


Bill Clinton did it because he could,
CTHILARY does it because it is "Fun".

This is where the FUN begins...
-- CTHILLARY'07

http://www.paragraph11.com/images/all/Paragraph11-Clinton-Joker.jpg


LIBs need you to fear Evil because it is Evil
and to eschew Good because it is Good, they seek
to pit Man against other men until we exist no more
because the only Earth in Balance conceivable to the LIBs
is one where Mankind become an Endangered Species.


LIBs cannot afford you to realize the obviousness of the Truth,
EVIL has NO POWER when the Good remain unafraid.


LIBs. What PRICE their FACEBOOK?
---
Zuckerberg, the modern day Francisco d'Anconia....


http://www.rocketpowered.co.uk/rocket-fuel/the-social-network-official-
trailer
The $50 Billion Social Network

...it was never intended to make money.
Had that been the prime motivator,
it would never have grown like it did...





http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/10/31/how-did-atlas-shrugged-and-ayn-
rand-predict-america-spinning-out-control/
How Did Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged'
Predict an America Spinning Out of Control?


How could she have painted villains who seem ripped from today�s
headlines?

There�s Wesley Mouch, who in the face of failed government programs
screams like Rep. Barney Frank (D) of Massachusetts for wider powers.

There�s Eugene Lawson, �the banker with a heart,� who like former Treasury
Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is ever
ready with a bailout.

There�s Mr. Thompson, who like President Obama seeks to rally the country
behind pious platitudes.

There�s Orren Boyle, who like President Bush says that we must abandon
free-market principles to save the free market.



HOW DID ALL THIS HAPPEN?
A: GOOD MEN DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

DEMAND TRUTH.
DESERVE PEACE.
DESERVE FREEDOM.
DEMAND COMPETANCE.
DEMAND ACOUNTABILITY.
DEFEAT LIB STRATEGIC INSANITY.

Paul Duca

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On Jul 15, 5:48 pm, MANFRED the man shaped like an OBOE wrote:

>
> DEMAND TRUTH.
> DESERVE PEACE.
> DESERVE FREEDOM.
> DEMAND COMPETANCE.
> DEMAND ACOUNTABILITY.
> AND WHEN YOU DON'T GET THEM....SETTLE FOR SCAPEGOATS AND FINGER-POINTING

MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

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Paul Duca
> On Jul 15, 5:48�pm, MANFRED the man shaped like an OBOE wrote:
>
>>
>> DEMAND TRUTH.
>> DESERVE PEACE.
>> DESERVE FREEDOM.
>> DEMAND COMPETANCE.
>> DEMAND ACOUNTABILITY.
>> DEFEAT LIB STRATEGIC INSANITY
>>
> AND WHEN YOU DON'T GET THEM....SETTLE FOR SCAPEGOATS AND FINGER-POINTING


LIBs blames BOOOSH for everything the Clinton is Factually Guilty of.
OBAMA blames BOOOSH for everything that he is Personally Culpable of.

http://archive.redstate.com/story/2006/1/20/202810/326
Inside the liberal mind

Why would a liberal call those who cut off people's heads
and kill our troops and innocent civilians "insurgents" and
"freedom
fighters" instead of terrorists?
Why do they judge America�s troops but not the throat-cutters?
Why are they so outraged over Abu Ghraib but had nothing to say
when Saddam sent hundreds of thousands of people to an early grave?
Why do they bash George W. Bush for the casualties in Iraq but
not Bill Clinton when he dropped bombs on the Serbian people?


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/bill_blockbuster_an_amateur_XJHYdaV5
LT1vpr5I39IKrN

Bill Clinton thought so little of President Obama � mocking him as an
�amateur� � that he pressed his wife last summer to quit her job as
secretary of state and challenge him in the primaries,


LIBs. What PRICE their Vision?
---
http://www.amazon.com/Roots-Obamas-Rage-Dinesh-DSouza/dp/1596986255
The Roots of Obama's Rage

The real Obama is a man shaped by experiences far different from those
of most Americans; he is a much stranger, more determined, and
exponentially more dangerous man than you�d ever imagined. He is not
motivated by the civil rights struggles of African Americans in the
1960sthose battles leave him wholly untouched. He is not motivated by the
socialist or Marxist propaganda that hypnotized a whole generation of
wooly minded academics and condescending liberals those concepts also
leave him cold.

What really motivates Barack Obama is an inherited rage an often
masked, but profound rage that comes from his African father; an
anticolonialist rage against Western dominance, and most especially
against the wealth and power of the very nation Barack Obama now leads. It
is this rage that explains the previously inexplicable, and that gives us
a startling look at what might lie ahead.

In The Roots of Obama�s Rage you�ll learn: Why Obama�s economic
policies are actually designed to make America poorer compared to the rest
of the world Why Obama will welcome a nuclear Iran Why Obama sees America
as a rogue nation worse than North Korea The real reason Obama banished a
bust of Winston Churchill from the White House and ordered NASA to praise
the scientific contributions of Muslims Why Obama would like to make
America�s superpower status a thing of the past

Stunning, provocative, original, and telling no one has better
diagnosed who Obama is, what he intends to do, and why he poses an
existential threat to America than Dinesh D�Souza in The Roots of Obama�s
Rage.

Paul Duca

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On Jul 15, 11:24 pm, MANFRED the docile black conservative seeking
OBOE wrote:
>
>
> > On Jul 15, 5:48 pm, MANFRED the man shaped like an OBOE wrote:
>
> >> DEMAND TRUTH.
> >> DESERVE PEACE.
> >> DESERVE FREEDOM.
> >> DEMAND COMPETANCE.
> >> DEMAND ACOUNTABILITY.
>
> > AND WHEN YOU DON'T GET THEM....SETTLE FOR SCAPEGOATS AND FINGER-POINTING
>

> I am still waiting for BOOOSH to pat me on the head for being a Good American Boy.
> And America the Superpower never has or will get ME a job...but I feel good SCREAMING U!S!A! U!S!A!.

MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

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http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/16815.JPG
Atrocities according to the LIBs.





"It would be wrong to cut off contact with the terror group just because
they may have killed people "in a way that we hate."
-- Bill Clinton'06

"I have advocated engagement with our enemies"
-- Hillary'07.


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ARCH-TRAITOR

Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)

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Jul 17, 2012, 4:49:42 PM7/17/12
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On Jul 16, 8:37 am, MANFRED Hoping to Give the Romney Boys Lessons in
OBOE

has LOTS of time to obsess about his morality and making all these
posts...guess that how he occupies himself while waiting for his check
from that NICE official in Nigeria.

Paul

(but look at the time he saves not worrying about his Virtue, since he
knows NO ONE wants to relieve it from him).




MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

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LIBs call themselves American
while betraying everything it ever stood for.



http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/6407.jpg
The Five Pillars of Liberal Faith
Hysteria
Denial of Reality
Thought Control
Name Calling
Projection of Guilt



LIBs. What PRICE their Vision?
---
Where everything is owned by everyone and enjoyed by none.


http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/15914.jpg
It's Chocolate, Really !!!

Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)

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On Jul 17, 9:15 pm, MANFRED Whose Head Is Shaped Like the Bow for His
OBOE wrote:

(the usual twaddle claiming Republicans will do EVERYTHING for him).
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