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Elder(:)Child
May 27, 2012, 3:17:26 PM5/27/12
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"If we live in The Spirit, let us also walk in The Spirit!" (Gal 5:25)
Walk with your heart and not in your mind!
Walk in The Spirit not temporal time!
If you knew how much farther to go, would that shorten the walk?
Would knowing how long it would be before you arrive get you there any
sooner?
Sadly, multitudes are running along "the broad way to destruction"
rather than walking in The Spirit )-;
Why serve "time" in the prison that is this world? And why have your
portion in it's systems of religion which have killed and enslaved
multiplied millions in the name of their god(s)?
Because of religious systems "The Way of Truth is evil spoken
of".......
"Come Out of her(babel/confusion/babylon\world\religion), MY people!"
Come Out! of that which is of this wicked, evil world and especially
it's systems of religion.
No longer have your portion with those who are destroying
Creation(air, water, land, vegetation, creatures) and perverting that
which is Spirit(Truth, Light, Life, Love, Peace, Grace, Faith, Hope,
Miracles,,,,, ALL that is Truly GOOD).......
"Walk in The Spirit"!
Have your portion with The Messiah in The Family of "Our Father and
GOD", "Of WHOM the whole Family in Heaven and ON EARTH is named"!
(Eph3:15)
And NEW "Jerusalem above IS !NOW! the mother of us all"! (Gal4:26)
So it is that the brethren of The Messiah, the BORN ANEW "sons of
GOD", also seek and desire that which The Messiah sought and desired
above all else!
"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done!"
And we choose to remain but "aliens and pilgrims while on the earth"
for our "citizenship(Life) IS !NOW! in Heaven", and soon, and very
soon, we will be taken Home, Home at last!
Till then:
Father Help! and HE does.......
www.asimpleandspirituallife.org
www.facebook.com/pages/A-Simple-and-Spiritual-Life/208339295850609
Walk with your heart and not in your mind!
Walk in The Spirit not temporal time!
If you knew how much farther to go, would that shorten the walk?
Would knowing how long it would be before you arrive get you there any
sooner?
Sadly, multitudes are running along "the broad way to destruction"
rather than walking in The Spirit )-;
Why serve "time" in the prison that is this world? And why have your
portion in it's systems of religion which have killed and enslaved
multiplied millions in the name of their god(s)?
Because of religious systems "The Way of Truth is evil spoken
of".......
"Come Out of her(babel/confusion/babylon\world\religion), MY people!"
Come Out! of that which is of this wicked, evil world and especially
it's systems of religion.
No longer have your portion with those who are destroying
Creation(air, water, land, vegetation, creatures) and perverting that
which is Spirit(Truth, Light, Life, Love, Peace, Grace, Faith, Hope,
Miracles,,,,, ALL that is Truly GOOD).......
"Walk in The Spirit"!
Have your portion with The Messiah in The Family of "Our Father and
GOD", "Of WHOM the whole Family in Heaven and ON EARTH is named"!
(Eph3:15)
And NEW "Jerusalem above IS !NOW! the mother of us all"! (Gal4:26)
So it is that the brethren of The Messiah, the BORN ANEW "sons of
GOD", also seek and desire that which The Messiah sought and desired
above all else!
"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done!"
And we choose to remain but "aliens and pilgrims while on the earth"
for our "citizenship(Life) IS !NOW! in Heaven", and soon, and very
soon, we will be taken Home, Home at last!
Till then:
Father Help! and HE does.......
www.asimpleandspirituallife.org
www.facebook.com/pages/A-Simple-and-Spiritual-Life/208339295850609
vince garcia
May 27, 2012, 6:24:35 PM5/27/12
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As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other
gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
--Apostle paul
ElderChild wrote:
>
> i am so tired of hearing the catholics, christians and indeed all the
> religious, as well as athiests, all liken unto parrots continually
> sounding their rallying cry of "you can't judge me" ;-(
>
>
And I'm tired of your satanic heresies and false messiah; and judge YOU
as a false teacher and false prophet...
Elder(:)Child wrote:
>
> The Messiah testified, "A Spirit has not flesh and bones as you see I
> have"!
>
> Simply, The ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD, Father(Creator) of ALL, was, is,
> and always will be SPIRIT!
>
> And it was as Paul testified, "GOD(SPIRIT) was in The Messiah"!
>
> Not that GOD(SPIRIT) took on sinful "human" flesh, but that HE, WHO IS
> SPIRIT, entered into The Messiah, who was "born in the likeness of
> sinful flesh".......
>
> If The Messiah was god, there would have been no need for The SPIRIT
> that is GOD to enter into Him.......
>
Notice how demon-inspired false teacher, elder child, does the first
thing most every heretic does? Makes Jesus a created being, and deny His
deity.
And why does Satan want that teaching out there?
Because a created being is not a perfect enough sacrifice to atone for
sin.
There isn't one cogent relationship to any legitimate plan of salvation
in this or ANY of his posts; just a lot of disjointed verses from here
and from there that in no way speak of the plan of salvation.
I never see a post with one word on the cross or the redemption of
Christ.
NOT ONE WORD!
Just the typical tirade against the church being corrupt, some New Age
sounding babble about how bad violence is, and exaltation of satan as in
control
In fact, here is a list of posts of his that have nothing but
RAMBLING, DISJOINTED BS OUT OF HIM, AND NOT ONE WORD ABOUT CHRIST'S
ATONEMENT AND DEATH ON THE CROSS OR TRUE PLAN OF REDEMPTION:
Who is "Hebrew"?
The Declaration of Dependence
The 1st Day of Creation
A Vision of Submission and Love
What did The Messiah desire above all else?
A Simple and Spiritual Life
Behold, these are the ungodly
The Light of the world!
A Testimony concerning Life and death.
Oh, The Games People Play ;-(
What is the name of The Messiah?
Taking the bait! And the LIES are swallowed, hook, line and sinker ;-(
WHO IS The Messiah's GOD and Father(Creator)?
Progress? -OR- Progressive Destruction?
What does "The Word of Truth" say regarding death?
The ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD, Father(Creator) of ALL
The Family of Faith or a system of religion?
All these crap posts of his, which everyone will recognize the
titles of, omit teaching the cross and instead present a PHILOSOPHICAL
path of salvation, instead of faith in the atoning death of Christ.
Below is the kind of New Age crap he follows. For instance, here are his
words praising Native American superstition as real spirituality:
>'The Hopi people of AZ once believed "A Simple and Spiritual Life is
> the only Life that will survive".'
I have news for elder child--the Hopi people of Arizona were
and are ON THEIR WAY TO HELL unless they embrace THE CROSS and what
happened on it.
To use Indians as an example of proper spiritual understanding of what
life is shows what a deceived fool he really is.
He is a hell-bound false teacher with deceptive visions leading him.
That's why he spams all these crap posts that go on about
spiritual-sounding things that are a mixture of truth polluted by your
lies, that have an appearance of godliness, and quote lots of verses,
BUT YET LEAVE OUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING OF ALL--THE
CROSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On the rare occasions that he does mention it, it's not in the context
of how Christ redeemed mankind on the cross, and how through faith in
who
He is and what He did a man is saved--but it's in the context of calling
people to emulate his rejection of every denomination there is,
rejection of materialism as HE defines it, and living an ascetic
lifestyle to gain eternal life.
Translation: rejection of justification through faith in Christ in favor
of salvation by works and philosophy as taught by elder child.
ELDER CHILD LONG LIST OF HERESIES AND DECEPTIONS
A visit to Elder Child's disgusting and satanically inspired web site
will reveal the following heresies and errors...
He Denounces all Bibles as biased.
Mocks/denies denies the Trinity as a '3 headed pagan god'.
Declares all Christian denominations as harlot daughters of the Catholic
Church, and misquotes Revelation 18:4 as calling on God's people to
reject all denominations.
Declares the US as an "evil" nation and "rebelled against [God's]
authority" by dropping the A bomb on Japan to end the war[--and save
over a million lives that would have been lost under a conventional
invasion].
Denounces a nation using "force of any kind" as evil
Has a heretical doctrine that people must refer to Christ by the correct
Hebrew name to be saved (misusing Acts 4:12 as a proof text for this
ridiculous doctrine)--when his version of that name is linguistically
and historically incorrect
Has declared religions are not born out of "faith"; only people with no
denominational ties, who exist as "families" are real servants of God.
(Note--this crap seems to imply he is oen of those heretics who only
thinks home churches are "real" churches)
Has declared Mark 16:15 to be "what pagan catholicism and her harlot
christian daughters call their 'great commission'"
Declares anyone preaching a "normal" Christian Gospel to be preaching a
"false gospel"
Declares 100% ("all") the world--including its churches--are controlled
by Satan
Calls the name "Jesus" pagan, and declares you are not saved if you hold
to that name
Specifically denies Christ's deity: "Not that The Messiah was god, but
that "GOD was with us" in The Messiah! "
Says all Christian religions carry the "carries on the legacy of the
pharisees"
Declares all Christian denominations serve Satan: "Until one “see’s”
that pagan catholicism and her harlot christian daughters are of “the
father of lies”, and have always served him, they will not truly take
heed unto The Call of The ONE and Only True GOD, Father(Creator) of All,
and “Come Out of her, MY people!”"
Claims his own beliefs arose APART from any knowledge of the Bible: "As
for me, i can bear witness to The Miracle of receiving "a love of The
Truth" prior to having any "knowledge" of that which is recorded in what
the "catholic/christians" call their "bible"."
Claims an esoteric revelation directly from God apart from the
Scriptures that led him to the "real" truth: "In a time of great
turmoil, inward pain, and hopelessness i cried unto the one whom i then
would only recognize as "the supreme being", "HELP, if there is a "god",
HELP"! And in an instant i received a revelation: "If there is a "GOD"
then HE is a "GOD" of Truth, for a lie never existed and never will!" "
This revelation from "God" revealed to him all denominations/religions
are corrupt: "And once received, "a love of The Truth" will lead one to
that which is Real, that which IS. And all that is Truly Real is
Forever, and those who receive "a love of The Truth" begin to realize
that this whole world and __especially it's systems of religion__ are
but the product of lies, "imag"ination, deception, delusion,,, all that
is unreal!"
Note: Doesn't this sound familiar to any of you familiar with Joseph
Smith?
Claims to have been delivered from churches: "Miraculously i was
delivered from all the "churches" that attempted to ensnare and
captivate my soul. "
NOTE: Compare this crap to Heb 19:25 Not forsaking the assembling of
ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another:
and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Perverts the writings of James into his own corrupt image: ""Pure
religion and undefiled before G-D The Father is this, to visit the
fatherless (those children who know not The Father{Creator} of ALL) and
widows(those who are not joined together as One with Our Father and HIS
Son{the bridegroom jews rejected and yet reject}) in their affliction
and to keep oneself uncontaminated by the world."(James1:27)"
Flat out declares "Christianity" to be pagan.
Claims he received a vision from God in the Copper Canyon area of Mexico
in '93 with a Mexican with an exploding mouth from drinking a Coke that
showed him how deceived WE and our churches all are.
Claims he had another vision about running about between right and left
hands
Claims he invented new technologies that have become billion dollar
businesses to others, but he rejected them to follow God
Claims water baptism was only for Jews under the old covenant, so we
need not be baptized in water today, and equates it with phariseeism if
we submit to it
Denounces 'brethren who come together to worship God' because that is
only mentioned once that he knows of
(apparently he sees no need for corporate worship, claiming..."song,
prayer, reading, sermon, prayer, collection, song, benediction
“mentality” masquerading as “spirituality”. An order established of man,
for man.")
The fact is, he and the satanic spirit behind him have been exposed for
what they are: salvation through a false Christ called "Y'shua" and his
false prophet, elder child"
> All Thanks and Praise Be Unto Our Father!
You are of your father the devil
gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
--Apostle paul
ElderChild wrote:
>
> i am so tired of hearing the catholics, christians and indeed all the
> religious, as well as athiests, all liken unto parrots continually
> sounding their rallying cry of "you can't judge me" ;-(
>
>
And I'm tired of your satanic heresies and false messiah; and judge YOU
as a false teacher and false prophet...
Elder(:)Child wrote:
>
> The Messiah testified, "A Spirit has not flesh and bones as you see I
> have"!
>
> Simply, The ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD, Father(Creator) of ALL, was, is,
> and always will be SPIRIT!
>
> And it was as Paul testified, "GOD(SPIRIT) was in The Messiah"!
>
> Not that GOD(SPIRIT) took on sinful "human" flesh, but that HE, WHO IS
> SPIRIT, entered into The Messiah, who was "born in the likeness of
> sinful flesh".......
>
> If The Messiah was god, there would have been no need for The SPIRIT
> that is GOD to enter into Him.......
>
Notice how demon-inspired false teacher, elder child, does the first
thing most every heretic does? Makes Jesus a created being, and deny His
deity.
And why does Satan want that teaching out there?
Because a created being is not a perfect enough sacrifice to atone for
sin.
There isn't one cogent relationship to any legitimate plan of salvation
in this or ANY of his posts; just a lot of disjointed verses from here
and from there that in no way speak of the plan of salvation.
I never see a post with one word on the cross or the redemption of
Christ.
NOT ONE WORD!
Just the typical tirade against the church being corrupt, some New Age
sounding babble about how bad violence is, and exaltation of satan as in
control
In fact, here is a list of posts of his that have nothing but
RAMBLING, DISJOINTED BS OUT OF HIM, AND NOT ONE WORD ABOUT CHRIST'S
ATONEMENT AND DEATH ON THE CROSS OR TRUE PLAN OF REDEMPTION:
Who is "Hebrew"?
The Declaration of Dependence
The 1st Day of Creation
A Vision of Submission and Love
What did The Messiah desire above all else?
A Simple and Spiritual Life
Behold, these are the ungodly
The Light of the world!
A Testimony concerning Life and death.
Oh, The Games People Play ;-(
What is the name of The Messiah?
Taking the bait! And the LIES are swallowed, hook, line and sinker ;-(
WHO IS The Messiah's GOD and Father(Creator)?
Progress? -OR- Progressive Destruction?
What does "The Word of Truth" say regarding death?
The ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD, Father(Creator) of ALL
The Family of Faith or a system of religion?
All these crap posts of his, which everyone will recognize the
titles of, omit teaching the cross and instead present a PHILOSOPHICAL
path of salvation, instead of faith in the atoning death of Christ.
Below is the kind of New Age crap he follows. For instance, here are his
words praising Native American superstition as real spirituality:
>'The Hopi people of AZ once believed "A Simple and Spiritual Life is
> the only Life that will survive".'
I have news for elder child--the Hopi people of Arizona were
and are ON THEIR WAY TO HELL unless they embrace THE CROSS and what
happened on it.
To use Indians as an example of proper spiritual understanding of what
life is shows what a deceived fool he really is.
He is a hell-bound false teacher with deceptive visions leading him.
That's why he spams all these crap posts that go on about
spiritual-sounding things that are a mixture of truth polluted by your
lies, that have an appearance of godliness, and quote lots of verses,
BUT YET LEAVE OUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING OF ALL--THE
CROSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On the rare occasions that he does mention it, it's not in the context
of how Christ redeemed mankind on the cross, and how through faith in
who
He is and what He did a man is saved--but it's in the context of calling
people to emulate his rejection of every denomination there is,
rejection of materialism as HE defines it, and living an ascetic
lifestyle to gain eternal life.
Translation: rejection of justification through faith in Christ in favor
of salvation by works and philosophy as taught by elder child.
ELDER CHILD LONG LIST OF HERESIES AND DECEPTIONS
A visit to Elder Child's disgusting and satanically inspired web site
will reveal the following heresies and errors...
He Denounces all Bibles as biased.
Mocks/denies denies the Trinity as a '3 headed pagan god'.
Declares all Christian denominations as harlot daughters of the Catholic
Church, and misquotes Revelation 18:4 as calling on God's people to
reject all denominations.
Declares the US as an "evil" nation and "rebelled against [God's]
authority" by dropping the A bomb on Japan to end the war[--and save
over a million lives that would have been lost under a conventional
invasion].
Denounces a nation using "force of any kind" as evil
Has a heretical doctrine that people must refer to Christ by the correct
Hebrew name to be saved (misusing Acts 4:12 as a proof text for this
ridiculous doctrine)--when his version of that name is linguistically
and historically incorrect
Has declared religions are not born out of "faith"; only people with no
denominational ties, who exist as "families" are real servants of God.
(Note--this crap seems to imply he is oen of those heretics who only
thinks home churches are "real" churches)
Has declared Mark 16:15 to be "what pagan catholicism and her harlot
christian daughters call their 'great commission'"
Declares anyone preaching a "normal" Christian Gospel to be preaching a
"false gospel"
Declares 100% ("all") the world--including its churches--are controlled
by Satan
Calls the name "Jesus" pagan, and declares you are not saved if you hold
to that name
Specifically denies Christ's deity: "Not that The Messiah was god, but
that "GOD was with us" in The Messiah! "
Says all Christian religions carry the "carries on the legacy of the
pharisees"
Declares all Christian denominations serve Satan: "Until one “see’s”
that pagan catholicism and her harlot christian daughters are of “the
father of lies”, and have always served him, they will not truly take
heed unto The Call of The ONE and Only True GOD, Father(Creator) of All,
and “Come Out of her, MY people!”"
Claims his own beliefs arose APART from any knowledge of the Bible: "As
for me, i can bear witness to The Miracle of receiving "a love of The
Truth" prior to having any "knowledge" of that which is recorded in what
the "catholic/christians" call their "bible"."
Claims an esoteric revelation directly from God apart from the
Scriptures that led him to the "real" truth: "In a time of great
turmoil, inward pain, and hopelessness i cried unto the one whom i then
would only recognize as "the supreme being", "HELP, if there is a "god",
HELP"! And in an instant i received a revelation: "If there is a "GOD"
then HE is a "GOD" of Truth, for a lie never existed and never will!" "
This revelation from "God" revealed to him all denominations/religions
are corrupt: "And once received, "a love of The Truth" will lead one to
that which is Real, that which IS. And all that is Truly Real is
Forever, and those who receive "a love of The Truth" begin to realize
that this whole world and __especially it's systems of religion__ are
but the product of lies, "imag"ination, deception, delusion,,, all that
is unreal!"
Note: Doesn't this sound familiar to any of you familiar with Joseph
Smith?
Claims to have been delivered from churches: "Miraculously i was
delivered from all the "churches" that attempted to ensnare and
captivate my soul. "
NOTE: Compare this crap to Heb 19:25 Not forsaking the assembling of
ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another:
and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Perverts the writings of James into his own corrupt image: ""Pure
religion and undefiled before G-D The Father is this, to visit the
fatherless (those children who know not The Father{Creator} of ALL) and
widows(those who are not joined together as One with Our Father and HIS
Son{the bridegroom jews rejected and yet reject}) in their affliction
and to keep oneself uncontaminated by the world."(James1:27)"
Flat out declares "Christianity" to be pagan.
Claims he received a vision from God in the Copper Canyon area of Mexico
in '93 with a Mexican with an exploding mouth from drinking a Coke that
showed him how deceived WE and our churches all are.
Claims he had another vision about running about between right and left
hands
Claims he invented new technologies that have become billion dollar
businesses to others, but he rejected them to follow God
Claims water baptism was only for Jews under the old covenant, so we
need not be baptized in water today, and equates it with phariseeism if
we submit to it
Denounces 'brethren who come together to worship God' because that is
only mentioned once that he knows of
(apparently he sees no need for corporate worship, claiming..."song,
prayer, reading, sermon, prayer, collection, song, benediction
“mentality” masquerading as “spirituality”. An order established of man,
for man.")
The fact is, he and the satanic spirit behind him have been exposed for
what they are: salvation through a false Christ called "Y'shua" and his
false prophet, elder child"
> All Thanks and Praise Be Unto Our Father!
You are of your father the devil
Steve Hayes
May 28, 2012, 6:47:01 AM5/28/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 15:24:35 -0700, vince garcia <vggar...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
> "If we live in The Spirit, let us also reject elder child"
Indeed, I have rejected him/her/it long ago, and never bother to download its
post, which are the same guff continually reposted.
But you are forever posting ABOUT "elder child", and so there are more threads
by and about elder child in the Christian newsgroups than there are about
Jesus Christ.
>As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other
>gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
>
>--Apostle paul
And I've asked you before, what gospel to YOU preach?
And you've never answered.
I'll be watching this thread to see if you answer this time.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://khanya.wordpress.com
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
For information about why crossposting is (usually) good, and multiposting (nearly always) bad, see:
http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#xpost
wrote:
> "If we live in The Spirit, let us also reject elder child"
Indeed, I have rejected him/her/it long ago, and never bother to download its
post, which are the same guff continually reposted.
But you are forever posting ABOUT "elder child", and so there are more threads
by and about elder child in the Christian newsgroups than there are about
Jesus Christ.
>As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other
>gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
>
>--Apostle paul
And you've never answered.
I'll be watching this thread to see if you answer this time.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://khanya.wordpress.com
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
For information about why crossposting is (usually) good, and multiposting (nearly always) bad, see:
http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#xpost
vince garcia
May 28, 2012, 8:05:09 AM5/28/12
to
Steve Hayes wrote:
>
> On Sun, 27 May 2012 15:24:35 -0700, vince garcia <vggar...@ix.netcom.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "If we live in The Spirit, let us also reject elder child"
>
> Indeed, I have rejected him/her/it long ago, and never bother to download its
> post, which are the same guff continually reposted.
>
> But you are forever posting ABOUT "elder child", and so there are more threads
> by and about elder child in the Christian newsgroups than there are about
> Jesus Christ.
>
> >As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other
> >gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
> >
> >--Apostle paul
>
> And I've asked you before, what gospel to YOU preach?
>
> And you've never answered.
>
> I'll be watching this thread to see if you answer this time.
>
Hayes, I don't know how much more I have to dumb it down for you to
>
> On Sun, 27 May 2012 15:24:35 -0700, vince garcia <vggar...@ix.netcom.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "If we live in The Spirit, let us also reject elder child"
>
> Indeed, I have rejected him/her/it long ago, and never bother to download its
> post, which are the same guff continually reposted.
>
> But you are forever posting ABOUT "elder child", and so there are more threads
> by and about elder child in the Christian newsgroups than there are about
> Jesus Christ.
>
> >As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other
> >gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
> >
> >--Apostle paul
>
> And I've asked you before, what gospel to YOU preach?
>
> And you've never answered.
>
> I'll be watching this thread to see if you answer this time.
>
grasp it. I am an evangelical who believes in exactly what I have
touted in every, or most every, post since 1996 here:
The trinity and full deity of Christ.
Salvation by grace only thru faith only.
Personhood of the Spirit.
Rejection of the Law as any vehicle of justification to earn eternal
life with God.
The hoplessness for ANY non-Charistian to obtain eternal life through
the sincere following of Judaism, Islam, etc.
The hopelessness for any so-called "Christian" who pollutes the gospel
of grace with mandatory torah observance or other law-keeping, making
salvation equal "Faith + keeping a Law well enough = salvation"
The Bible as the sole source for determining matters of faith and
morals.
Is that clear enough for you, or should I have my 11 year old neice try
and write it out for you at HER level?
Steve Hayes
May 28, 2012, 12:03:56 PM5/28/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 05:05:09 -0700, vince garcia <vggar...@ix.netcom.com>
Thank you.
Now at least I know where you're coming from when you denounce others.
Now at least I know where you're coming from when you denounce others.
Rockinghorse Winner
May 28, 2012, 11:01:48 AM5/28/12
to
* It may have been the liquor talking, but
thread, however). At least he is not full of the bile and invective that you
are. You are quite cavalier in propehsying, I see. You seem to know who is
going to Hell, and to know that you are not among them. How prescient!
Permit me, then, to cast just a little judgement on you, since you have been
so busy on other people, you may have neglected a few points pertaining to
yourself (a forgiveable offense): you have a lot of learning to do, my
friend, about how to treat your neighbor.
You are very knowledgeable about the Bible, but I don't see compassion, I
don't see patience, love, forbearance, or any of the fruits of the Spirit.
Elderchild has these fruits, even if his doctrine is off. I think God is
more than willing to forgive a point of doctrine. I don't think He looks
very kindly on ingratitude, presumption, and spiritual pride.
It's a matter of having Jesus in your heart. If you find a quiet place for
Jesus in your heart to instruct and guide you, you will not be tempted to
lash out like an angry Jeremiah at everyone you judge to be heretics. Who do
you think you are? You're just another soul in need of the healing of
God. What puts you above other people?
Perhaps if you looked on Elderchild more as a brother than a fiend, you
would see something in him to love. Our Lord, you remember, ate and sat
with sinners and _loved_ them.
It's easy to condemn; it makes us feel better about ourselves. It's a cross
to have to suffer people we disagree with. It makes us have to look inside
ourselves and assess our own walk with God, especially when those we
disagree with seem so much _better_ than we - more patient, more loving,
more willing to put up with ignorant loudmouths that offend us....
Forgive me if I am coming on too strongly. However, I do not like to see a
Christian wear the name in vain, and you are wearing Christ's name for the
vain purpose of tearing down your neighbor, who has done nothing but be kind
and patient toward you. For shame!
God bless.
Terry
--
"For I would ride with you upon the wind, |/
Run on the top of the dishevelled tide, |/ Gentoo Linux
And dance upon the mountains like a flame." |/
-Yeats |/
vince garcia <vggar...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other
> gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
>
> --Apostle paul
>
> ElderChild wrote:
Sure, elderchild holds unorthodox views. But so do you (that's another
> As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other
> gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
>
> --Apostle paul
>
> ElderChild wrote:
thread, however). At least he is not full of the bile and invective that you
are. You are quite cavalier in propehsying, I see. You seem to know who is
going to Hell, and to know that you are not among them. How prescient!
Permit me, then, to cast just a little judgement on you, since you have been
so busy on other people, you may have neglected a few points pertaining to
yourself (a forgiveable offense): you have a lot of learning to do, my
friend, about how to treat your neighbor.
You are very knowledgeable about the Bible, but I don't see compassion, I
don't see patience, love, forbearance, or any of the fruits of the Spirit.
Elderchild has these fruits, even if his doctrine is off. I think God is
more than willing to forgive a point of doctrine. I don't think He looks
very kindly on ingratitude, presumption, and spiritual pride.
It's a matter of having Jesus in your heart. If you find a quiet place for
Jesus in your heart to instruct and guide you, you will not be tempted to
lash out like an angry Jeremiah at everyone you judge to be heretics. Who do
you think you are? You're just another soul in need of the healing of
God. What puts you above other people?
Perhaps if you looked on Elderchild more as a brother than a fiend, you
would see something in him to love. Our Lord, you remember, ate and sat
with sinners and _loved_ them.
It's easy to condemn; it makes us feel better about ourselves. It's a cross
to have to suffer people we disagree with. It makes us have to look inside
ourselves and assess our own walk with God, especially when those we
disagree with seem so much _better_ than we - more patient, more loving,
more willing to put up with ignorant loudmouths that offend us....
Forgive me if I am coming on too strongly. However, I do not like to see a
Christian wear the name in vain, and you are wearing Christ's name for the
vain purpose of tearing down your neighbor, who has done nothing but be kind
and patient toward you. For shame!
God bless.
Terry
--
"For I would ride with you upon the wind, |/
Run on the top of the dishevelled tide, |/ Gentoo Linux
And dance upon the mountains like a flame." |/
-Yeats |/
vince garcia
May 28, 2012, 2:59:45 PM5/28/12
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Rockinghorse Winner wrote:
>
> * It may have been the liquor talking, but
> vince garcia <vggar...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other
> > gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
> >
> > --Apostle paul
> >
> > ElderChild wrote:
>
> Sure, elderchild holds unorthodox views. But so do you (that's another
> thread, however). At least he is not full of the bile and invective that you
> are. You are quite cavalier in propehsying, I see. You seem to know who is
> going to Hell, and to know that you are not among them.
Yea, if God the Father does not save except by God, no one can be saved
>
> * It may have been the liquor talking, but
> vince garcia <vggar...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other
> > gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
> >
> > --Apostle paul
> >
> > ElderChild wrote:
>
> Sure, elderchild holds unorthodox views. But so do you (that's another
> thread, however). At least he is not full of the bile and invective that you
> are. You are quite cavalier in propehsying, I see. You seem to know who is
> going to Hell, and to know that you are not among them.
by God the Father unless he shall have confessed Christ to be God, in
whom and by whom the Father promises that He will give him salvation: so
that, reasonably, whoever acknowledges Him to be God, may find salvation
in Christ God; whoever does not acknowledge Him to be God, would lose
salvation which he could not find elsewhere than in Christ God.
--Novatian on the Trinity
Absolutely! I can know by their words and teachings 100% when a false
prophet on his way to hell with his counterfeit Christ posts his
different gospel about another Jesus. And my job is to warn them and
exopose them to the REAL sheep to beware of.
And no, I won't hold back, or be any more polite than the
'compassionless' Paul who wished the false teachers would castrate
themselves.
Go re-look at the way Jesus and JTB related to the FALSE TEACHERS for
some good reading.
And FYI, I happen to be autistic, and 90% of the emotions I feel, which
you think aren't "compassionate" are what you would also call "negative"
ones.
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