@ THE TIMES OF THE GREATEST UNDERSTANDING OF THE BIBLE NOW ? @
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phenomenon .We are living in the times of the times of the greatest
understadning of the Bible and that is a reason why so many churches
became so obvious in their contradiction of the Bible !
Basically it boils to that that Jehovah's Witnesses seem to be the
only one organization approved of God Yahweh.
Even their teachings seem to pale when compared with the latest
discoveries from the Bible but there are good reasons why we cannot
exclude them in the endtime plan of salvation God Yahweh has in place
for the mankind.
In my view the era of that great understanding began in 1974 AD.
So ,we would have a period of 37 years till the second coming of Jesus
Christ that is expected in 2011 AD.
duke
>Without any doubts we are a generation that witnesses this fantastic
>phenomenon .We are living in the times of the times of the greatest
>understadning of the Bible and that is a reason why so many churches
>became so obvious in their contradiction of the Bible !
>Basically it boils to that that Jehovah's Witnesses seem to be the
>only one organization approved of God Yahweh.
You people don't even accept the divine nature of Jesus, and only sprang up as a
group less than 200 years ago. Better luck next time.
>Even their teachings seem to pale when compared with the latest
>discoveries from the Bible but there are good reasons why we cannot
>exclude them in the endtime plan of salvation God Yahweh has in place
>for the mankind.
>In my view the era of that great understanding began in 1974 AD.
>So ,we would have a period of 37 years till the second coming of Jesus
>Christ that is expected in 2011 AD.
Or numerous billions of years from now.
The Dukester, American-American
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curtjester1
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:00:39 -0800 (PST), "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com> wrote:
> >Without any doubts we are a generation that witnesses this fantastic
> >phenomenon .We are living in the times of the times of the greatest
> >understadning of the Bible and that is a reason why so many churches
> >became so obvious in their contradiction of the Bible !
> >Basically it boils to that that Jehovah's Witnesses seem to be the
> >only one organization approved of God Yahweh.
>
> You people don't even accept the divine nature of Jesus, and only sprang up as a
> group less than 200 years ago. Better luck next time.
>
when many will rove about with true knowledge." (Dan. 12:4...quoted
toward bottom of page)
http://www.watchtower.org/e/200804/article_02.htm
CJ
Parish *~
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> Without any doubts we are a generation that witnesses this fantastic
> phenomenon .We are living in the times of the times of the greatest
> understadning of the Bible and that is a reason why so many churches
> became so obvious in their contradiction of the Bible !
> Basically it boils to that that Jehovah's Witnesses seem to be the
> only one organization approved of God Yahweh.
You've been asked before - why do you make such a blasphemous claim when
they destroy marriages and families? Why don't you answer the question?
> Even their teachings seem to pale when compared with the latest
> discoveries from the Bible but there are good reasons why we cannot
> exclude them in the endtime plan of salvation God Yahweh has in place
> for the mankind.
>
> In my view the era of that great understanding began in 1974 AD.
You're view is meaningless as you've been told many times. You already
admitted you never read the bible, just bits and pieces of it.
> So ,we would have a period of 37 years till the second coming of Jesus
> Christ that is expected in 2011 AD.
The man is dead and he's not coming back!
--
The Parrish *~, American-American-American.
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On Dec 11, 1:11 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:00:39 -0800 (PST), "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com>
> wrote:
> >Without any doubts we are a generation that witnesses this fantastic
> >phenomenon .We are living in the times of the times of the greatest
> >understadning of the Bible and that is a reason why so many churches
> >became so obvious in their contradiction of the Bible !
> >Basically it boils to that that Jehovah's Witnesses seem to be the
> >only one organization approved of God Yahweh.
>
> You people don't even accept the divine nature of Jesus, and only sprang
> up as a
> group less than 200 years ago. Better luck next time.
>
As for you O Daniel, make secret this book, until the time of the end,
when many will rove about with true knowledge." (Dan. 12:4...quoted
toward bottom of page)
http://www.watchtower.org/e/200804/article_02.htm
And of course the wicked greedy GB has you convinced only THEY have such
knowledge. ;-)
Rob
JW's are child molesting lunatics. No wonder you like them so much. They've
changed their doctrines more times than most religions added together.
Anyone thinking God would use a cult that rapes babies and changes it's
doctrines every month is a moron.
Christ is expected EVER. He never lived. Prove it. Show us a video of him
doing miracles. You're one of those people whose IQ is the same number as
his shoe size.
Rob
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http://www.watchtower.org/e/200804/article_02.htm
CJ
Quoting the Bible doesn't prove anything, it's a book of fiction. Why are
you proud of being stupid?? The Watchtower is written by and read by idiots.
I hope YOU die in 2011. Then some of you might shut the hell up.
Rob
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CJ is a chronic retard. Facts go in one ear and out the other. You'd have
better luck teaching a baboon that the Bible is wrong than these cultists.
OB...@aol.com
Jehovah's Witnesses are better as they could tell you I guess that the
end of the world may happen any time and they are ready for that .
OB...@aol.com
proclaiming that the end of the world will take place in 2011 AD.He
also claims that we are now living in the time that many things kept
secret in the Bible are now being discovered.
He says it began in 1988 AD when " the sealed words (book ) " of
Daniel 12.9 was opened by Jesus as given in Revelation 5.5.
But the problem is ,though , we both claim the same we differ in the
understanding of the Bible. He came up with new different explanations
that I don't agree using new explanations of the Bible.
OB...@aol.com
---
Jehovah's Witnesses could say that their predecessors the
International Bible Students revived the true christianity with the
new explanations of the Bible.\
Since I count the year 1884 AD as the beginning of 120-year period
that reminds the period Noah was building the Ark it would be fitting
to attach the new understandings of the Bible to that.The time of the
end began at that time so the words of Daniel 12.9 could be applied to
that beginning date.
OB...@aol.com
------
You will not prove me that my grandmother lived and yet it stands to
reason to believe that .
Many things happened and we must believe them to make life easy .
Simply it stands to reason to believe the words of the Bible that
Jesus lived and died.
Rob
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You don't agree with "new" explanations?????? That's pretty funny. The WT's
130 year history is nothing BUT "new" explanations of the Bible. It's just
too bad that they are always wrong and hurt thousands of people in the
process. How many older JW's now have no pensions or health care because
they never prepared to grow old? I don't see the WT giving them any money.
In fact, they keep telling JW's to give THEM money. It doesn't get much more
insane than that. And yet they keep doing it. You'll call it faith, but 99%
of mental health professionals recognize it as mental illness. I hope you
get therapy and meds someday. You really need them badly.
Parish *~
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On Dec 11, 2:26�pm, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
---
Jehovah's Witnesses could say that their predecessors the
International Bible Students revived the true christianity with the
new explanations of the Bible.\
:: It doesn't matter what they "say." Every religion makes similar claims.
Since I count the year 1884 AD as the beginning of 120-year period
that reminds the period Noah was building the Ark it would be fitting
to attach the new understandings of the Bible to that.The time of the
end began at that time so the words of Daniel 12.9 could be applied to
that beginning date.
:: You're free to believe anything need to believe to feel comfortable. You
also need to read the entire bible, not just the book of Daniel.
Parish *~
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:: It stands to WHOSE reason? It's believed on faith and nothing more.
--
The Parrish *~, American-American-American.
* * * * * *
"The Mass is the most perfect form of making fast easy money."
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> Note that Harold Camping of the Family Radio Stations is also
> proclaiming that the end of the world will take place in 2011 AD.He
> also claims that we are now living in the time that many things kept
> secret in the Bible are now being discovered.
He's been saying that for years and years.
> He says it began in 1988 AD when " the sealed words (book ) " of
> Daniel 12.9 was opened by Jesus as given in Revelation 5.5.
I see no year mentioned in Rev 5.5.
>
> But the problem is ,though , we both claim the same we differ in the
> understanding of the Bible. He came up with new different explanations
> that I don't agree using new explanations of the Bible.
>
>
Then why are you so obsessed with the man?
Ips-Switch
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>
> You don't agree with "new" explanations?????? That's pretty funny. The
> WT's
> 130 year history is nothing BUT "new" explanations of the Bible. It's just
> too bad that they are always wrong and hurt thousands of people in the
> process. How many older JW's now have no pensions or health care because
> they never prepared to grow old? I don't see the WT giving them any money.
> In fact, they keep telling JW's to give THEM money. It doesn't get much
> more
> insane than that. And yet they keep doing it. You'll call it faith, but
> 99%
> of mental health professionals recognize it as mental illness. I hope you
> get therapy and meds someday. You really need them badly.
>
>
And many sorely regret taking the WTS's advice not to have children in the
60s and 70s. Now they remain not only childless and alone, but deprived of
the pleasure of grandchildren as well. We were distinctly told we wouldn't
grow old, that the end was surely to be in 1975. College was also
discouraged as was investing and saving money for the future. Now those
people I knew are growing old and dying and the end still hasn't come.
duke
wrote:
>On Dec 11, 1:11�pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:00:39 -0800 (PST), "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >Without any doubts we are a generation that witnesses this fantastic
>> >phenomenon .We are living in the times of the times of the greatest
>> >understadning of the Bible and that is a reason why so many churches
>> >became so obvious in their contradiction of the Bible !
>> >Basically it boils to that that Jehovah's Witnesses seem to be the
>> >only one organization �approved of God Yahweh.
>>
>> You people don't even accept the divine nature of Jesus, and only sprang up as a
>> group less than 200 years ago. �Better luck next time.
>As for you O Daniel, make secret this book, until the time of the end,
>when many will rove about with true knowledge." (Dan. 12:4...quoted
>toward bottom of page)
Daniel is for Jews.
duke
>On Dec 11, 1:11?pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net>
>----------------------------------------------------------
>Jehovah's Witnesses are better as they could tell you I guess that the
>end of the world may happen any time and they are ready for that .
And the Roman Catholic Church shows us that scripture said that it is not for
man to know the time or day, and hence we need to move ahead with doing the
Lord's work rather than playing Thessalonian thinking it's imminent, or just
past in their case.
curtjester1
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:18:24 -0800 (PST), curtjester1 <curtjest...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Dec 11, 1:11 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:00:39 -0800 (PST), "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >Without any doubts we are a generation that witnesses this fantastic
> >> >phenomenon .We are living in the times of the times of the greatest
> >> >understadning of the Bible and that is a reason why so many churches
> >> >became so obvious in their contradiction of the Bible !
> >> >Basically it boils to that that Jehovah's Witnesses seem to be the
> >> >only one organization approved of God Yahweh.
>
> >> You people don't even accept the divine nature of Jesus, and only sprang up as a
> >> group less than 200 years ago. Better luck next time.
> >As for you O Daniel, make secret this book, until the time of the end,
> >when many will rove about with true knowledge." (Dan. 12:4...quoted
> >toward bottom of page)
>
> Daniel is for Jews.
>
was from the time period of a kingdom after his death which he
predicted, and also predicted the subsequent kingdoms past the
desolated Jewish city of Jerusalem in 607 B.C. that would show many
other kingdoms, their rulers, events, and offshoots down to our
day.....Rev. 17:10. And he was in Babylon when he wrote it, being a
sought after exile from the vassal kingdom of Babylon in Judea. So
Daniel was and is for everyone, and corroborates what Jesus said in
Mark 13, Matt. 24, Luke 21, and all the other corrororating references
from Jesus in Revelation
~.^.Saba Gracile.^.~
<OB...@aol.com> skrev i melding
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A faithful slave of God does not make false prophecies
Dismantling the Watchtower claim that it is the faithful and discreet slave
is easy. All we need to do is look at the track record of the Watchtower as
an organization and see if it has been faithful. Consider the following
false prophecies made by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society over the
years:
a.. 1899 "...the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation
16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's
present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908
edition, p. 101).
b.. 1918 "Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the
return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old,
particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of
human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89.)
c.. 1922 "The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the
Scriptures than 1914," (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262.)
d.. 1923 "Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the
Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base
his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge,"
(Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1923, p. 106).
e.. 1931 "There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah's
faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1917, 1918, and 1925, which
disappointment lasted for a time...and they also learned to quit fixing
dates," (Vindication, p. 338).
f.. 1941 "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them,
not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument
for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon,"
(Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p. 288).
g.. 1968 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end
to the world,' even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The
'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was
missing?...Missing from such people were God's truths and evidence that he
was using and guiding them," (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).
I agree with the final quote in the Awake magazine. The previous false
prophecies of the Watchtower organization demonstrate that it is lacking
God's truths. If it is, then it is not the faithful and discreet slave.
���SAba*GrAcile����
Holocaust in mind tightening the screws on them to be loyal to the
crackpot WTs, awaiting the scenario of only them living through the end of
the
world while the rest will be eyeplucked.
S
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On Dec 11, 1:11?pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net>
curtjester1
wrote:
> <OB...@aol.com> skrev i meldingnews:73d3edc8-866b-471c...@m11g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Without any doubts we are a generation that witnesses this fantastic
> > phenomenon .We are living in the times of the times of the greatest
> > understadning of the Bible and that is a reason why so many churches
> > became so obvious in their contradiction of the Bible !
> > Basically it boils to that that Jehovah's Witnesses seem to be the
> > only one organization approved of God Yahweh.
> > Even their teachings seem to pale when compared with the latest
> > discoveries from the Bible but there are good reasons why we cannot
> > exclude them in the endtime plan of salvation God Yahweh has in place
> > for the mankind.
>
> > In my view the era of that great understanding began in 1974 AD.
> > So ,we would have a period of 37 years till the second coming of Jesus
> > Christ that is expected in 2011 AD.
>
> A faithful slave of God does not make false prophecies
>
is deemed to be have given by God himself to the prophet, and stated
so be the 'prophet'. There are dates in the Bible that are important,
and one is the dating of Messiah's arrival, ministry, and death with
the 70 Weeks of Years Prophecy in Daniel 9. There is also the
Prophecy of the times of the Gentiles or 2,520 years that commenced
from the desolation of Jerusalem in 607 B.C. and finished in 1914
according to Daniel 4 to be corroborated by Rev. 11 and 12 and many
other Christian Scriptures. That is still a date, not prophesied by
any but figured from the scriptures and stood by til this day. What
was speculated that surrounded that date is what it was, a good stab
at speculating. It's now much more understood with the unravelling of
the intricate signs that happened beyond it. Luke 17..."the kingdom
of God (kingdom born in the heavens in Rev. 12) is not arriving with
striking observableness". Obviously it came with 'subtle
observedness'. The signs leading up to the coming of Jesus and the
destruction of the system of things, is going to be as prophesied
coming with lots of poignant observableness. What other churces were
even figuring out this great prophecy of the 2,520 years that Jesus
spoke about "Jeruselam being trodden down by the nations?" This was
over 40 years in advance of that date. The only thing they have
seemed to make a stab at is that time period being used for
calculation-wise for the restoration of Israel as a nation in 1947.
Would anyone trust a church that didn't embrace the greatest of
propheices and the challenge of taking it on?
CJ
OB...@aol.com
At issue is what if the 2011 AD turns out to be the right date for
Jesu's return ?
Then we still may have another good date 2034 AD.
OB...@aol.com
---------
This is one of the most puzzling things one could think of how Harold
Camping of the Family Radio could come up with these dates May,21,2011
AD and October,21,2011 AD .While now I can see Jehovah's Witnesses in
such important time seem to stay away from making any further date
predictions.
I don't agree with Camping ( http//www.familyradio.com ) on many
issues but he got these dates very well based on the Bible and that is
his very strong point.
Note that I used the Watchtower timeline of history to come up with
the same year 2011 AD which is amazing to me.
OB...@aol.com
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Harold Camping spent more than 50 years on studying the Bible and yet
for almost all that time he had taught the literal hot hell .
He did so claiming we must study the whole Bible and compare Scripture
with Scripture and Jehovah's Witnesses were not using the whole
Bible !
And yet those allegedly unlearnt Bible Students have been teaching
for decades there is no literal hot hell !
Also already after leaving his church Harold Camping still has been
teaching literal hot hell for many years !
OB...@aol.com
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Jehovah's Witnesses had taught many things they changed in time but
they still remained basically the same organization .
But now compare what Harold Camping was teaching 30 years ago or 20
years ago to what he is teaching now .
I have many excerpts of many Open Forum programs Harold Camping is
hosting .You just download -if possible - one Open Forum from 1994 AD
and comapre to what he is teaching now.
http://www.familyradio.com
OB...@aol.com
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Catholics in general don't understand this issue of the timing of the
end of the world.You seem to be not understanding .
Romans 3.10-11 is a classical disaproval of your thinking.
I could prove you using this reference that no one is saved if you say
no one will know the time when Jesus comes back.
This is one of the best proofs Harold Camping used on his Open Forum
program you should listen to.
Romans 3.10-11 doesn't mean no one can be saved the same Mathew 24.36
doesn' t mean no one can know the time of Jesus' return.
OB...@aol.com
study Harold Camping's materials on the end of the world or listen to
his Open Forum programs and compare his teachings to mine by
retrieving my older posts.
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On Dec 11, 2:18�pm, curtjester1 <curtjest...@hotmail.com>
---------
This is one of the most puzzling things one could think of how Harold
Camping of the Family Radio could come up with these dates May,21,2011
AD and October,21,2011 AD .While now I can see Jehovah's Witnesses in
such important time seem to stay away from making any further date
predictions.
::: They finally smartened up after making fools of themselves over and over
again.
I don't agree with Camping ( http//www.familyradio.com ) on many
issues but he got these dates very well based on the Bible and that is
his very strong point.
::: You mean his weak point since he's made so many failed predictions in
the past.
Note that I used the Watchtower timeline of history to come up with
the same year 2011 AD which is amazing to me.
::: As proven many times, the WT timeline is always wrong.
Parish *~
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On Dec 11, 2:24�pm, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
----------
Also already after leaving his church Harold Camping still has been
teaching literal hot hell for many years !
::: Proving he's a false prophet. ;-)
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Why don't YOU study our posts for a change and learn something?
duke
>On Dec 11, 2:18?pm, curtjester1 <curtjest...@hotmail.com>
>---------
>This is one of the most puzzling things one could think of how Harold
>Camping of the Family Radio could come up with these dates May,21,2011
>AD and October,21,2011 AD .While now I can see Jehovah's Witnesses in
>such important time seem to stay away from making any further date
>predictions.
HC is daydreaming.
Jesus didn't know and neither does hc.
duke
>On Dec 13, 11:09?am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net>
>---
>Catholics in general don't understand this issue of the timing of the
>end of the world.You seem to be not understanding .
I know that we are called to continue our work as Christians, and not waste our
time worrying about something even Jesus and the angels didn't know.
>Romans 3.10-11 is a classical disaproval of your thinking.
>I could prove you using this reference that no one is saved if you say
>no one will know the time when Jesus comes back.
You need to define "saved" first.
>This is one of the best proofs Harold Camping used on his Open Forum
>program you should listen to.
Not a chance that I would listen to that heretic, who doesn't even believe that
Jesus is Son of God.
>Romans 3.10-11 doesn't mean no one can be saved the same Mathew 24.36
>doesn' t mean no one can know the time of Jesus' return.
But in Mat 24:36, Jesus DID say only the Father knows, not even the angels.
duke
>On Dec 11, 1:11?pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net>
>-
>At issue is what if the 2011 AD turns out to be the right date for
>Jesu's return ?
Many of us already live "love one another as I have loved you".
>Then we still may have another good date 2034 AD.
Go ahead and hide the money in the ground rather than making more for the Lord.
~.^.Saba Gracile.^.~
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> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:37:49 -0800 (PST), "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Dec 13, 11:09?am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net>
>>---
>
>>Catholics in general don't understand this issue of the timing of the
>>end of the world.You seem to be not understanding .
>
> I know that we are called to continue our work as Christians, and not
> waste our
> time worrying about something even Jesus and the angels didn't know.
These cult runners aren't christians, they would sell their granny to the
Devil
if they could get the date somehow.
>
>>Romans 3.10-11 is a classical disaproval of your thinking.
>>I could prove you using this reference that no one is saved if you say
>>no one will know the time when Jesus comes back.
>
> You need to define "saved" first.
They can't as they don't understand what the bible says, what the whole
point of it is. They think they can trick the bible plan and find a
comeupper
way themselves, avoiding the whole christian, following Jesus thing.
They aren't followers leading to savior, but foolish, independant goats.
They don't CARE if the bible says noone knows when.
>
>>This is one of the best proofs Harold Camping used on his Open Forum
>>program you should listen to.
>
> Not a chance that I would listen to that heretic, who doesn't even believe
> that
> Jesus is Son of God.
>
>>Romans 3.10-11 doesn't mean no one can be saved the same Mathew 24.36
>>doesn' t mean no one can know the time of Jesus' return.
>
> But in Mat 24:36, Jesus DID say only the Father knows, not even the
> angels.
>
> The Dukester, American-American
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****
Saba
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> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:08:25 -0800 (PST), "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Dec 11, 1:11?pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net>
>>-
>>At issue is what if the 2011 AD turns out to be the right date for
>>Jesu's return ?
>
> Many of us already live "love one another as I have loved you".
You speak for deaf ears to these insanity ridden lunies. JW's can't
be bothered with the importance of what you just said, the
message of the Gospel is totally lost to these spiritually sick
and blind people. Only those that HEAR The Word, will survive,
not those who speculate and want their own way.
>
>>Then we still may have another good date 2034 AD.
>
> Go ahead and hide the money in the ground rather than making more for the
> Lord.
>
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duke
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>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:37:49 -0800 (PST), "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Dec 13, 11:09?am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net>
>>>---
>>
>>>Catholics in general don't understand this issue of the timing of the
>>>end of the world.You seem to be not understanding .
>>
>> I know that we are called to continue our work as Christians, and not
>> waste our time worrying about something even Jesus and the angels didn't know.
>These cult runners aren't christians, they would sell their granny to the
>Devil if they could get the date somehow.
That's correct. The JW's deny the divine nature of Jesus, and hence are not
Christian.
>>>Romans 3.10-11 is a classical disaproval of your thinking.
>>>I could prove you using this reference that no one is saved if you say
>>>no one will know the time when Jesus comes back.
>> You need to define "saved" first.
>They can't as they don't understand what the bible says, what the whole
>point of it is. They think they can trick the bible plan and find a
>comeupper way themselves, avoiding the whole christian, following Jesus thing.
>They aren't followers leading to savior, but foolish, independant goats.
>They don't CARE if the bible says noone knows when.
Well, they're only fooling themselves. Like the Thessalonians who thought the
day of the Lord had already come and turned to false teachings, so the JW's will
sit around and wait for the end.
duke
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>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> skrev i melding
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>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:08:25 -0800 (PST), "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Dec 11, 1:11?pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net>
>>>-
>>>At issue is what if the 2011 AD turns out to be the right date for
>>>Jesu's return ?
>>
>> Many of us already live "love one another as I have loved you".
>
>You speak for deaf ears to these insanity ridden lunies. JW's can't
>be bothered with the importance of what you just said, the
>message of the Gospel is totally lost to these spiritually sick
>and blind people. Only those that HEAR The Word, will survive,
>not those who speculate and want their own way.
Yes, but remember, the Lord said that his new command is that "we love one
another as he loves us". Atheists and Hindus are his creation also.
Rob
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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NO one is his creation. You never should have become a brain donor. You
STILL haven't proven that God exists. Both sides can call names but you have
NOT proven God exists. It's still your turn. If you want an ongoing mock
contest, fine. But you have failed to show the proof. Typical JW or
religious tactics. If you can't prove your beliefs, you deflect, call names,
and all the other stuff. Oh, the proctologist called. They found your head.
duke
>> Yes, but remember, the Lord said that his new command is that "we love one
>> another as he loves us". Atheists and Hindus are his creation also.
>NO one is his creation. You never should have become a brain donor.
I still have mine, and it's your superior.
> You
>STILL haven't proven that God exists.
And I never will, nor anybody else will. God is the only reality that makes
sense - creation.
> Both sides can call names but you have
>NOT proven God exists. It's still your turn. If you want an ongoing mock
>contest, fine. But you have failed to show the proof. Typical JW or
>religious tactics. If you can't prove your beliefs, you deflect, call names,
>and all the other stuff. Oh, the proctologist called. They found your head.
I still have mine. That must have been yours.