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Tracey12
Mar 24, 2012, 12:54:21 PM3/24/12
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Travon is dead. We know who shot him. We know most of the
circumstances surrounding the shooting. Yet, why is this event being
blown up into a major national news story and potential riot?
The answer is very apparent when Obama's response is factored in.
The Welfare Pimps who are trying to keep this story alive are looking
for live cameras and an opportunity to remind the public that they are
the black leaders, and they represent the entire black population of
America. By warning of coming retaliation / riots, the Welfare Pimps
are trying to demonstrate their power and control.
But, the part that is not being reported is that Obama and the Welfare
Pimps are trying hard to draw in black support for Obama, and that is
exactly why Obama made the remark about if he had a son, he would look
like Trayvon.
circumstances surrounding the shooting. Yet, why is this event being
blown up into a major national news story and potential riot?
The answer is very apparent when Obama's response is factored in.
The Welfare Pimps who are trying to keep this story alive are looking
for live cameras and an opportunity to remind the public that they are
the black leaders, and they represent the entire black population of
America. By warning of coming retaliation / riots, the Welfare Pimps
are trying to demonstrate their power and control.
But, the part that is not being reported is that Obama and the Welfare
Pimps are trying hard to draw in black support for Obama, and that is
exactly why Obama made the remark about if he had a son, he would look
like Trayvon.
Alan Ferris
Mar 24, 2012, 2:43:48 PM3/24/12
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12
<tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Travon is dead. We know who shot him. We know most of the
>circumstances surrounding the shooting.
Do you really, care to tell them then. Seems the police did not carry
<tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Travon is dead. We know who shot him. We know most of the
>circumstances surrounding the shooting.
out a proper investigation, so if you have please provide your
evidence.
--
Ferrit
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Tracey12
Mar 24, 2012, 3:53:19 PM3/24/12
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Alan Ferris
Mar 24, 2012, 4:04:57 PM3/24/12
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 12:53:19 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12
<tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Google doesn't work in the UK?
You really should shoot your English teacher. Did nobody tell you
<tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Google doesn't work in the UK?
that a question mark is for a question, not a statement.
duke
Mar 25, 2012, 8:20:42 AM3/25/12
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12 <tracey...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Travon is dead. We know who shot him. We know most of the
>circumstances surrounding the shooting. Yet, why is this event being
>blown up into a major national news story and potential riot?
That's easy. It was a black kid that was shot by a white man. I've read a
report where, just recently, 5 black men slit the throats of 3 white people
before a robbery. Not a word in the national news.
duke, American - American
*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
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wrote:
>Travon is dead. We know who shot him. We know most of the
>circumstances surrounding the shooting. Yet, why is this event being
>blown up into a major national news story and potential riot?
report where, just recently, 5 black men slit the throats of 3 white people
before a robbery. Not a word in the national news.
duke, American - American
*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****
Billary
Mar 25, 2012, 9:01:32 AM3/25/12
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fear for their safety. Free from fear of redneck trailer trash.
mexican gangbanger drug whores and Black Hooded mafia Gangsters. It
really is too bad that Trayvon martin didn't have a Concealed Weapons
Permit and a firearm in his pocket. If he had then that piece of shit
JORGE Zimmerman would be dead instead of an innocent kid. I favor
lowering the CWP age to 17 nationwide.
Paul Duca
Mar 25, 2012, 9:05:09 AM3/25/12
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On Mar 25, 8:20 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com>
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Travon is dead. We know who shot him. We know most of the
> >circumstances surrounding the shooting. Yet, why is this event being
> >blown up into a major national news story and potential riot?
>
> That's easy. It was a black kid that was shot by a white man. I've read a
> report where, just recently, 5 black men slit the throats of 3 white people
> before a robbery. We EXPECT that from darkies, which is why we don't expect coverage.
>
> >Travon is dead. We know who shot him. We know most of the
> >circumstances surrounding the shooting. Yet, why is this event being
> >blown up into a major national news story and potential riot?
>
> That's easy. It was a black kid that was shot by a white man. I've read a
> report where, just recently, 5 black men slit the throats of 3 white people
First. Post
Mar 25, 2012, 9:20:31 AM3/25/12
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 06:01:32 -0700 (PDT), Billary <billarycl...@gmail.com>
wrote:
And you magically know that Martin is innocent and Zimmerman a murderer how
exactly?
wrote:
exactly?
Alan Ferris
Mar 25, 2012, 9:58:35 AM3/25/12
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 08:20:31 -0500, First. Post
<OccupiersDu...@invalid.net> wrote:
>>Permit and a firearm in his pocket. If he had then that piece of shit
>>JORGE Zimmerman would be dead instead of an innocent kid. I favor
>>lowering the CWP age to 17 nationwide.
>
>And you magically know that Martin is innocent and Zimmerman a murderer how
>exactly?
The fact he did not need to follow an unarmed man and shoot him. He
<OccupiersDu...@invalid.net> wrote:
>>Permit and a firearm in his pocket. If he had then that piece of shit
>>JORGE Zimmerman would be dead instead of an innocent kid. I favor
>>lowering the CWP age to 17 nationwide.
>
>And you magically know that Martin is innocent and Zimmerman a murderer how
>exactly?
could not have been at risk unless he actually put himself there. Also
there has been no evidence to show that the teenager posed ANY threat
to him.
If anybody is walking away from you unarmed, how would they be a
threat?
First. Post
Mar 25, 2012, 10:14:21 AM3/25/12
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:58:35 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
Wow, you must have really good eyesight to have seen everything that happened as
well as have some really important friends in high places to know exactly what
evidence is or is not present.
Hell, who needs "innocent until proven guilty"? Crime and punishment should be
adjudicated in the court of public opinion always yes?
Who needs the police? Hell you've judged and are ready to pronounce sentence
based solely on what you've chosen to read about it. No need for any judges or
juries either. Gee, you've pretty much rewritten the constitution as well as
redesigned the entire justice system with just a few keystrokes. And you're not
even a US citizen within the US. What a milestone.
wrote:
well as have some really important friends in high places to know exactly what
evidence is or is not present.
Hell, who needs "innocent until proven guilty"? Crime and punishment should be
adjudicated in the court of public opinion always yes?
Who needs the police? Hell you've judged and are ready to pronounce sentence
based solely on what you've chosen to read about it. No need for any judges or
juries either. Gee, you've pretty much rewritten the constitution as well as
redesigned the entire justice system with just a few keystrokes. And you're not
even a US citizen within the US. What a milestone.
Tracey12
Mar 25, 2012, 2:08:58 PM3/25/12
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Why so much emphasis on this shooting?
Because Obama and the anti gun nuts can exploit this death for their
own political causes.
Because Obama and the anti gun nuts can exploit this death for their
own political causes.
wy
Mar 25, 2012, 2:28:22 PM3/25/12
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On Mar 25, 10:14 am, First. Post <OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net>
wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:58:35 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk>
In other words, you couldn't articulate a proper argument to the
contrary of what Alan said, so you instead went on an aimless,
rambling, gobbledygook verbiage spree to no intelligible point or
conclusion whatsoever. Nice.
wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:58:35 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk>
contrary of what Alan said, so you instead went on an aimless,
rambling, gobbledygook verbiage spree to no intelligible point or
conclusion whatsoever. Nice.
Billary
Mar 25, 2012, 3:15:38 PM3/25/12
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On Mar 25, 10:14 am, First. Post <OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net>
wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:58:35 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk>
1. JORGE Zimmerman followed Trayvon Martin
2. Police dispatchers told him not to persue the suspect.
3. JORGE Zimmerman dismounted his vehicle and confronted Martin
4. JORGE Shot Trayvon
5. Trayvon died at the scene
The florida "No duty to retreat" law does not protect men who stalk,
hunt down and kill their prey.
Ramon F Herrera
Mar 25, 2012, 3:37:33 PM3/25/12
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http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/23/2712299/george-zimmerman-self-appointed.html
I get to call him Jorge, not you.
-Ramon
Billary
Mar 25, 2012, 3:40:32 PM3/25/12
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>
> I get to call him Jorge, not you.
>
> -Ramon
Quien es mas macho puto?
> I get to call him Jorge, not you.
>
> -Ramon
First. Post
Mar 25, 2012, 3:42:43 PM3/25/12
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:15:38 -0700 (PDT), Billary <billarycl...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Funny that you leave out the part about Martin being on top of Zimmerman
punching him as described by witnesses or Zimmermans cries for help head on the
911 call.
Never took you for the type to want to play judge, jury and executionaer based
on only part of a story. Apparently I was mistaken.
wrote:
punching him as described by witnesses or Zimmermans cries for help head on the
911 call.
Never took you for the type to want to play judge, jury and executionaer based
on only part of a story. Apparently I was mistaken.
wy
Mar 25, 2012, 3:55:29 PM3/25/12
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On Mar 25, 3:42 pm, First. Post <OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net>
wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:15:38 -0700 (PDT), Billary <billaryclinton2...@gmail.com>
And you being more hilarious by leaving out this part:
“This was not self defense,” Cutcher said. “We heard no fighting, no
wrestling, no punching. We heard a boy crying. As soon as the shot
went off, it stopped, which tells me it was the child crying. If it
had been Zimmerman crying, it wouldn’t have stopped. If you’re
hurting, you’re hurting.”
She and her friend say they heard the sounds from a few steps away,
where they were inside beside an open window. Seconds later, they
dashed out to find a boy face down on the ground and a man standing
over him, a foot on each side of the body on the ground, with his
hands pinning the shooting victim down.
“I asked him, ‘What’s happening here? What’s going on?’ said Cutcher’s
friend, who did not want her name published for fear for her safety.
“The third time, I was indignant, and he said, ‘just call the police.’
Then I saw him with his hands over his head in the universal sign of:
‘Oh man, I messed up.’”
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/sfl-trayvon-martin-family-20120315,0,1882381,full.story
wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:15:38 -0700 (PDT), Billary <billaryclinton2...@gmail.com>
“This was not self defense,” Cutcher said. “We heard no fighting, no
wrestling, no punching. We heard a boy crying. As soon as the shot
went off, it stopped, which tells me it was the child crying. If it
had been Zimmerman crying, it wouldn’t have stopped. If you’re
hurting, you’re hurting.”
She and her friend say they heard the sounds from a few steps away,
where they were inside beside an open window. Seconds later, they
dashed out to find a boy face down on the ground and a man standing
over him, a foot on each side of the body on the ground, with his
hands pinning the shooting victim down.
“I asked him, ‘What’s happening here? What’s going on?’ said Cutcher’s
friend, who did not want her name published for fear for her safety.
“The third time, I was indignant, and he said, ‘just call the police.’
Then I saw him with his hands over his head in the universal sign of:
‘Oh man, I messed up.’”
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/sfl-trayvon-martin-family-20120315,0,1882381,full.story
Ramon F Herrera
Mar 25, 2012, 3:35:25 PM3/25/12
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On Mar 25, 2:15 pm, Billary <billaryclinton2...@gmail.com> wrote:
The law is actually called "Stand Your Ground", according to its
author, its signer (Governor Jeb Bush) and Faux News.
-Ramon
Patrick
Mar 25, 2012, 5:04:30 PM3/25/12
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"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote
++ A stand-your-ground law states that a person may use deadly force in
self-defense when there is reasonable belief of a threat, without an
obligation to retreat first. In some cases, a person may use deadly force in
public areas without a duty to retreat. Under these legal concepts, a person
is justified in using deadly force in certain situations and the "stand your
ground" law would be a defense to criminal charges.
On Mar 25, 2:15 pm, Billary <billaryclinton2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net>> wrote:
self-defense when there is reasonable belief of a threat, without an
obligation to retreat first. In some cases, a person may use deadly force in
public areas without a duty to retreat. Under these legal concepts, a person
is justified in using deadly force in certain situations and the "stand your
ground" law would be a defense to criminal charges.
• R. L. Measures.
Mar 25, 2012, 5:29:54 PM3/25/12
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In article
<d24b898c-3acc-4977...@z31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
Billary <billarycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Mar 25, 10:14=A0am, First. Post <OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net>
>wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:58:35 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk=
> how
>> >>exactly?
>>
>> >The fact he did not need to follow an unarmed man and shoot him. =A0He
>ened as
>> well as have some really important friends in high places to know exactly=
>ntence
>> based solely on what you've chosen to read about it. =A0No need for any j=
>udges or
>> juries either. =A0Gee, you've pretty much rewritten the constitution as w=
>ell as
>> redesigned the entire justice system with just a few keystrokes. =A0And y=
>ou're not
>> even a US citizen within the US. =A0What a milestone.
--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
<d24b898c-3acc-4977...@z31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
Billary <billarycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Mar 25, 10:14=A0am, First. Post <OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net>
>wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:58:35 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk=
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 08:20:31 -0500, First. Post
>> ><OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>>Permit and a firearm in his pocket. =A0If he had then that piece of sh=
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 08:20:31 -0500, First. Post
>> ><OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>it
>> >>>JORGE Zimmerman would be dead instead of an innocent kid. I favor
>> >>>lowering the CWP age to 17 nationwide.
>>
>> >>And you magically know that Martin is innocent and Zimmerman a murderer=
>> >>>JORGE Zimmerman would be dead instead of an innocent kid. I favor
>> >>>lowering the CWP age to 17 nationwide.
>>
> how
>> >>exactly?
>>
>> >The fact he did not need to follow an unarmed man and shoot him. =A0He
>> >could not have been at risk unless he actually put himself there. Also
>> >there has been no evidence to show that the teenager posed ANY threat
>> >to him.
>>
>> >If anybody is walking away from you unarmed, how would they be a
>> >threat?
>>
>> Wow, you must have really good eyesight to have seen everything that happ=
>> >there has been no evidence to show that the teenager posed ANY threat
>> >to him.
>>
>> >If anybody is walking away from you unarmed, how would they be a
>> >threat?
>>
>ened as
>> well as have some really important friends in high places to know exactly=
> what
>> evidence is or is not present.
>> Hell, who needs "innocent until proven guilty"? =A0Crime and punishment s=
>> evidence is or is not present.
>hould be
>> adjudicated in the court of public opinion always yes?
>> Who needs the police? =A0Hell you've judged and are ready to pronounce se=
>> adjudicated in the court of public opinion always yes?
>ntence
>> based solely on what you've chosen to read about it. =A0No need for any j=
>udges or
>> juries either. =A0Gee, you've pretty much rewritten the constitution as w=
>ell as
>> redesigned the entire justice system with just a few keystrokes. =A0And y=
>ou're not
>> even a US citizen within the US. =A0What a milestone.
>
>The known facts are as follows:
>1. JORGE Zimmerman followed Trayvon Martin
>2. Police dispatchers told him not to persue the suspect.
>3. JORGE Zimmerman dismounted his vehicle and confronted Martin
>4. JORGE Shot Trayvon
>5. Trayvon died at the scene
>
>The florida "No duty to retreat" law does not protect men who stalk,
>hunt down and kill their prey.
• Bingo
>The known facts are as follows:
>1. JORGE Zimmerman followed Trayvon Martin
>2. Police dispatchers told him not to persue the suspect.
>3. JORGE Zimmerman dismounted his vehicle and confronted Martin
>4. JORGE Shot Trayvon
>5. Trayvon died at the scene
>
>The florida "No duty to retreat" law does not protect men who stalk,
>hunt down and kill their prey.
--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
First. Post
Mar 25, 2012, 5:32:47 PM3/25/12
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FORCE Sub Chapter 776.013 Paragraph 3.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0776/Sections/0776.013.html
or http://tinyurl.com/7ogbgdr
Whatever nifty little catchphrase someone wants to assign it is simply
semantics.
Alan Ferris
Mar 25, 2012, 5:39:40 PM3/25/12
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:08:58 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12
<tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why so much emphasis on this shooting?
The emphasis is the lack of police action following the shooting.
<tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why so much emphasis on this shooting?
Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)
Mar 25, 2012, 5:48:44 PM3/25/12
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On Mar 25, 5:04 pm, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
> "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote
And by wearing a hooded sweatshirt, Trayvon showed he was a threat to
Jorge....like any other darkie.
Paul
> "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote
Jorge....like any other darkie.
Paul
First. Post
Mar 25, 2012, 6:05:59 PM3/25/12
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over zealous wannabe cop has now turned into a murderous cold blooded predator
that was out to kill.
No doubt in a day or two he will have morphed into an insane Hannibal Lechter
type that killed and ate babies for breakfast while saluting the swastika.
Everyday in America dozens of black males, females and children are murdered in
cold blood. Most often by other members of their own race.
If Zimmerman ends up charged and convicted, what is it about this single
incident that demands first the worldwide publicity and secondly a target to
focus so much hatred toward as to invoke instant knee jerk declarations of guilt
and punishment?
Where were all of you outraged citizens back in 08 when Roderick Scott of Greece
New York gunned down an unarmed 17 year old teen for acting suspicious?
Scott claimed he thought the kid was breaking into cars.
Scott was acquitted of manslaughter in the case BTW.
No outrage was ever voiced on that case. No threats of violence in the streets
if the shooter of a 17 year old kid went free.
Did I mention that Roderick Scott is a black man and the 17 year old Christopher
D. Cervini was white?
Can you say double standard?
First. Post
Mar 25, 2012, 6:20:59 PM3/25/12
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 22:39:40 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
>On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:08:58 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12
><tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why so much emphasis on this shooting?
>
>The emphasis is the lack of police action following the shooting.
The police took Zimmerman in and questioned him and did an investigation of the
shooting. They may have done a piss poor job of it but the police did follow
procedure.
And if that's all it's really about then why are so many of you along with the
Black Panthers focusing more on Zimmerman than anything else?
There have been very few posts even mentioning the police departments
culpability compared to the number of posts declaring Zimmerman to be a white
racist madman that should be hunted down and lynched.
wrote:
>On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:08:58 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12
><tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why so much emphasis on this shooting?
>
>The emphasis is the lack of police action following the shooting.
shooting. They may have done a piss poor job of it but the police did follow
procedure.
And if that's all it's really about then why are so many of you along with the
Black Panthers focusing more on Zimmerman than anything else?
There have been very few posts even mentioning the police departments
culpability compared to the number of posts declaring Zimmerman to be a white
racist madman that should be hunted down and lynched.
David Hartung
Mar 25, 2012, 6:35:47 PM3/25/12
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On 03/25/2012 04:39 PM, Alan Ferris wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:08:58 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12
> <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why so much emphasis on this shooting?
>
> The emphasis is the lack of police action following the shooting.
Given that most investigation work is low key, how do you now that there
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:08:58 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12
> <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why so much emphasis on this shooting?
>
> The emphasis is the lack of police action following the shooting.
was no police action?
Patrick
Mar 25, 2012, 7:41:51 PM3/25/12
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-And by wearing a hooded sweatshirt, Trayvon showed he was a threat to
- Jorge....like any other darkie.
Hey, I'm scared.
message
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- Jorge....like any other darkie.
Hey, I'm scared.
• R. L. Measures.
Mar 25, 2012, 8:54:15 PM3/25/12
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In article <1v3vm750ionckfug5...@4ax.com>, First. Post
• The shooter was the pursuer.
>Where were all of you outraged citizens back in 08 when Roderick Scott of
Greece
>New York gunned down an unarmed 17 year old teen for acting suspicious?
>Scott claimed he thought the kid was breaking into cars.
>Scott was acquitted of manslaughter in the case BTW.
>No outrage was ever voiced on that case. No threats of violence in the streets
>if the shooter of a 17 year old kid went free.
>Did I mention that Roderick Scott is a black man and the 17 year old
Christopher
>D. Cervini was white?
>
>Can you say double standard?
>
Greece
>New York gunned down an unarmed 17 year old teen for acting suspicious?
>Scott claimed he thought the kid was breaking into cars.
>Scott was acquitted of manslaughter in the case BTW.
>No outrage was ever voiced on that case. No threats of violence in the streets
>if the shooter of a 17 year old kid went free.
>Did I mention that Roderick Scott is a black man and the 17 year old
Christopher
>D. Cervini was white?
>
>Can you say double standard?
>
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 3:37:06 AM3/26/12
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:41:51 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>
wrote:
>-And by wearing a hooded sweatshirt, Trayvon showed he was a threat to
>- Jorge....like any other darkie.
>
>Hey, I'm scared.
>
But that is because you have always shown yourself to be coward.
wrote:
>-And by wearing a hooded sweatshirt, Trayvon showed he was a threat to
>- Jorge....like any other darkie.
>
>Hey, I'm scared.
>
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 3:41:54 AM3/26/12
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:05:59 -0500, First. Post
<OccupiersDu...@invalid.net> wrote:
>Where were all of you outraged citizens back in 08 when Roderick Scott of Greece
>New York gunned down an unarmed 17 year old teen for acting suspicious?
>Scott claimed he thought the kid was breaking into cars.
>Scott was acquitted of manslaughter in the case BTW.
>No outrage was ever voiced on that case. No threats of violence in the streets
>if the shooter of a 17 year old kid went free.
>Did I mention that Roderick Scott is a black man and the 17 year old Christopher
>D. Cervini was white?
>
>Can you say double standard?
No. Because in that case the man was arrested and charged with murder
<OccupiersDu...@invalid.net> wrote:
>Where were all of you outraged citizens back in 08 when Roderick Scott of Greece
>New York gunned down an unarmed 17 year old teen for acting suspicious?
>Scott claimed he thought the kid was breaking into cars.
>Scott was acquitted of manslaughter in the case BTW.
>No outrage was ever voiced on that case. No threats of violence in the streets
>if the shooter of a 17 year old kid went free.
>Did I mention that Roderick Scott is a black man and the 17 year old Christopher
>D. Cervini was white?
>
>Can you say double standard?
and was found not guilty by a court of law. Notice the difference,
the black man was arrested immediately, not just left to walk free
with no investigation.
Also you have been less than honest with the facts of the Roderick
case. He was breaking into cars, he ran at the man, big difference.
Why did you lack the honesty to mention those facts:
Scott shot Christopher Cervini in 2009 in Greece on a windy and rainy
night. Scott saw Cervini and his friends rifling through neighbors’
cars. He went outside with a gun as his girlfriend called police.
Scott confronted Cervini and said the youth ran at him. Scott shot
Cervini dead.
Police wasted no time charging Scott with murder. A grand jury knocked
the charge down to manslaughter. Scott testified in his own defense. A
jury acquitted him.
http://therochesterian.com/2012/03/21/recalling-roderick-scott/
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 3:43:46 AM3/26/12
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however your need to defend this, even to the point of lying about the
case of a black man who shot a white youth.
Yes the department did a piss poor job and they are being investigated
for that, just a Zimmerman should be tried for his crime.
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 3:53:54 AM3/26/12
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:35:47 -0500, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com>
wrote:
The fact they have owned up to not doing enough and the fact they are
being investigated as to why they did not do enough.
None of the police had bothered to check the 999 calls which clearly
changed the whole nature of the shooting.
George Zimmerman fears that Trayvon Martin, the “suspicious character
who appears to be on drugs” is running away. George Zimmerman said,
“These assholes always get away.”
How the hell can you be standing your ground from somebody running
away?
The police and Zimmerman were hoping this would all blow over, and it
would have if the parents had not demanded the 911 call log, that was
when it all changed.
Whatever you believe about the guys guilt or innocence, there was
clearly grounds for a full investigation and charges to be brought. It
is NOT for the police to find guilt or innocence, that is for a jury.
wrote:
being investigated as to why they did not do enough.
None of the police had bothered to check the 999 calls which clearly
changed the whole nature of the shooting.
George Zimmerman fears that Trayvon Martin, the “suspicious character
who appears to be on drugs” is running away. George Zimmerman said,
“These assholes always get away.”
How the hell can you be standing your ground from somebody running
away?
The police and Zimmerman were hoping this would all blow over, and it
would have if the parents had not demanded the 911 call log, that was
when it all changed.
Whatever you believe about the guys guilt or innocence, there was
clearly grounds for a full investigation and charges to be brought. It
is NOT for the police to find guilt or innocence, that is for a jury.
Juan Hungloe
Mar 26, 2012, 7:18:16 AM3/26/12
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On Mar 26, 2:53 am, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:35:47 -0500, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On 03/25/2012 04:39 PM, Alan Ferris wrote:
> >> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:08:58 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12
> >> <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:35:47 -0500, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On 03/25/2012 04:39 PM, Alan Ferris wrote:
> >> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:08:58 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12
neighborhoods, people will be wary of a black kid dressed in gangsta
mode. The culture in the black community has become extremely violent,
extremely vulgar, and extremely anti white. You’d have to be a
complete idiot not to have noticed. Sharpton, Jackson, Farrahkan, and
the likes of Rev Wright feed on it and perpetuate it and indeed make
their livings off of it. The destruction of the black family by
welfare, food stamps, abortion, and the minimalizing of the role of
black men as providers for their families borders on criminal. Those
blacks that do make it are those that recognize the benefits of Judeo
Christian culture of family and work. Radical leftists (both black and
white) are their true enemy, and things will not improve until the
majority of the black population gets that they have been horribly
used.
Juan Hungloe
Mar 26, 2012, 7:17:54 AM3/26/12
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On Mar 26, 2:41 am, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:05:59 -0500, First. Post
>
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:05:59 -0500, First. Post
>
> <OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net> wrote:
> >Where were all of you outraged citizens back in 08 when Roderick Scott of Greece
> >New York gunned down an unarmed 17 year old teen for acting suspicious?
> >Scott claimed he thought the kid was breaking into cars.
> >Scott was acquitted of manslaughter in the case BTW.
> >No outrage was ever voiced on that case. No threats of violence in the streets
> >if the shooter of a 17 year old kid went free.
> >Did I mention that Roderick Scott is a black man and the 17 year old Christopher
> >D. Cervini was white?
>
> >Can you say double standard?
>
> No. Because in that case the man was arrested and charged with murder
> and was found not guilty by a court of law. Notice the difference,
> the black man was arrested immediately, not just left to walk free
> with no investigation.
>
> Also you have been less than honest with the facts of the Roderick
> case. He was breaking into cars, he ran at the man, big difference.
> Why did you lack the honesty to mention those facts:
>
> Scott shot Christopher Cervini in 2009 in Greece on a windy and rainy
> night. Scott saw Cervini and his friends rifling through neighbors’
> cars. He went outside with a gun as his girlfriend called police.
> Scott confronted Cervini and said the youth ran at him. Scott shot
> Cervini dead.
>
> Police wasted no time charging Scott with murder. A grand jury knocked
> the charge down to manslaughter. Scott testified in his own defense. A
> jury acquitted him.http://therochesterian.com/2012/03/21/recalling-roderick-scott/
> >Where were all of you outraged citizens back in 08 when Roderick Scott of Greece
> >New York gunned down an unarmed 17 year old teen for acting suspicious?
> >Scott claimed he thought the kid was breaking into cars.
> >Scott was acquitted of manslaughter in the case BTW.
> >No outrage was ever voiced on that case. No threats of violence in the streets
> >if the shooter of a 17 year old kid went free.
> >Did I mention that Roderick Scott is a black man and the 17 year old Christopher
> >D. Cervini was white?
>
> >Can you say double standard?
>
> No. Because in that case the man was arrested and charged with murder
> and was found not guilty by a court of law. Notice the difference,
> the black man was arrested immediately, not just left to walk free
> with no investigation.
>
> Also you have been less than honest with the facts of the Roderick
> case. He was breaking into cars, he ran at the man, big difference.
> Why did you lack the honesty to mention those facts:
>
> Scott shot Christopher Cervini in 2009 in Greece on a windy and rainy
> night. Scott saw Cervini and his friends rifling through neighbors’
> cars. He went outside with a gun as his girlfriend called police.
> Scott confronted Cervini and said the youth ran at him. Scott shot
> Cervini dead.
>
> Police wasted no time charging Scott with murder. A grand jury knocked
> the charge down to manslaughter. Scott testified in his own defense. A
>
> --
> Ferrit
>
> ()'.'.'()
> ( (T) )
> ( ) . ( )
> (")_(")
Did you celebrate when OJ was found not guilty for murdering two
> --
> Ferrit
>
> ()'.'.'()
> ( (T) )
> ( ) . ( )
> (")_(")
whites?
Paul Duca
Mar 26, 2012, 7:22:25 AM3/26/12
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On Mar 25, 7:41 pm, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
> "Paul Duca (tomservo56...@comcast.net)" <paul.du...@gmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:b838b03a-900d-44c3...@db5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> Hey, I'm scared. My politicians taught me to be, and I ignore the message of my church not to be.
> "Paul Duca (tomservo56...@comcast.net)" <paul.du...@gmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:b838b03a-900d-44c3...@db5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
Paul Duca
Mar 26, 2012, 7:25:56 AM3/26/12
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Yes...all black folk need are wise white Republicans to solve all
their physical problems, while great men of the cloth like T.D. Jakes
handle the spiritual ones, saying it's all God's will, and pie in the
sky is all they need.
Paul
duke
Mar 26, 2012, 7:58:58 AM3/26/12
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:15:38 -0700 (PDT), Billary <billarycl...@gmail.com>
wrote:
He was acting to protect the neighborhood. You forgot that one.
duke, American - American
*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****
wrote:
duke, American - American
*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****
duke
Mar 26, 2012, 8:00:49 AM3/26/12
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:35:25 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera <gopo...@jonjay.com>
wrote:
Fox News passed the law???
You didn't comment on the recent 5 black men cutting the throats of 3 whites
then robbing them in their own home. This didn't make the national news, you
know.
wrote:
You didn't comment on the recent 5 black men cutting the throats of 3 whites
then robbing them in their own home. This didn't make the national news, you
know.
duke
Mar 26, 2012, 8:02:15 AM3/26/12
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:37:33 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera <gopo...@jonjay.com>
wrote:
I thought only negroes had the right to do that.
wrote:
duke
Mar 26, 2012, 8:05:41 AM3/26/12
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:05:59 -0500, First. Post
<OccupiersDu...@invalid.net> wrote:
>>>The florida "No duty to retreat" law does not protect men who stalk,
>>>hunt down and kill their prey.
>>
>>• Bingo
>
>So now, without any more evidence surfacing, the what has been described as an
>over zealous wannabe cop has now turned into a murderous cold blooded predator
>that was out to kill.
>No doubt in a day or two he will have morphed into an insane Hannibal Lechter
>type that killed and ate babies for breakfast while saluting the swastika.
>Everyday in America dozens of black males, females and children are murdered in
>cold blood. Most often by other members of their own race.
>If Zimmerman ends up charged and convicted, what is it about this single
>incident that demands first the worldwide publicity and secondly a target to
>focus so much hatred toward as to invoke instant knee jerk declarations of guilt
>and punishment?
Especially considering just recently, 5 black men entered the home of 3 white
>>>The florida "No duty to retreat" law does not protect men who stalk,
>>>hunt down and kill their prey.
>>
>>• Bingo
>
>So now, without any more evidence surfacing, the what has been described as an
>over zealous wannabe cop has now turned into a murderous cold blooded predator
>that was out to kill.
>No doubt in a day or two he will have morphed into an insane Hannibal Lechter
>type that killed and ate babies for breakfast while saluting the swastika.
>Everyday in America dozens of black males, females and children are murdered in
>cold blood. Most often by other members of their own race.
>If Zimmerman ends up charged and convicted, what is it about this single
>incident that demands first the worldwide publicity and secondly a target to
>focus so much hatred toward as to invoke instant knee jerk declarations of guilt
>and punishment?
people, cut their throats, and robbed them of $500,000.
Ah, they'll probably call it just wilding and justify it because they ancestors
come in by boat.
>
>Where were all of you outraged citizens back in 08 when Roderick Scott of Greece
>New York gunned down an unarmed 17 year old teen for acting suspicious?
>Scott claimed he thought the kid was breaking into cars.
>Scott was acquitted of manslaughter in the case BTW.
>No outrage was ever voiced on that case. No threats of violence in the streets
>if the shooter of a 17 year old kid went free.
>Did I mention that Roderick Scott is a black man and the 17 year old Christopher
>D. Cervini was white?
>
>Can you say double standard?
>
>
>
>
>
duke
Mar 26, 2012, 8:10:34 AM3/26/12
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First. Post
Mar 26, 2012, 8:12:20 AM3/26/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:41:54 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
So running at the man was justification in shooting down a white kid while a man
getting beaten with a black kid on top of him doing the beating is not
justifiable?
Yep. You definitely have a double standard.
And speaking of being less than honest, well, you win the prize on that one as
well.
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf
wrote:
getting beaten with a black kid on top of him doing the beating is not
justifiable?
Yep. You definitely have a double standard.
And speaking of being less than honest, well, you win the prize on that one as
well.
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf
duke
Mar 26, 2012, 8:12:38 AM3/26/12
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:55:29 -0700 (PDT), wy <w...@myself.com> wrote:
>On Mar 25, 3:42 pm, First. Post <OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net>
>wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:15:38 -0700 (PDT), Billary <billaryclinton2...@gmail.com>
>> >wrote:
>> punching him as described by witnesses or Zimmermans cries for help head on the
>> 911 call.
>
>And you being more hilarious by leaving out this part:
>
>“This was not self defense,” Cutcher said. “We heard no fighting, no
>wrestling, no punching. We heard a boy crying. As soon as the shot
>went off, it stopped, which tells me it was the child crying. If it
>had been Zimmerman crying, it wouldn’t have stopped. If you’re
>hurting, you’re hurting.”
>
>She and her friend say they heard the sounds from a few steps away,
>where they were inside beside an open window. Seconds later, they
>dashed out to find a boy face down on the ground and a man standing
>over him, a foot on each side of the body on the ground, with his
>hands pinning the shooting victim down.
>
>“I asked him, ‘What’s happening here? What’s going on?’ said Cutcher’s
>friend, who did not want her name published for fear for her safety.
>“The third time, I was indignant, and he said, ‘just call the police.’
>Then I saw him with his hands over his head in the universal sign of:
>‘Oh man, I messed up.’”
What part was the "messed up" about?
>On Mar 25, 3:42 pm, First. Post <OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net>
>wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:15:38 -0700 (PDT), Billary <billaryclinton2...@gmail.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:58:35 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk>
>> >5. Trayvon died at the scene
>>
>>
>> >The florida "No duty to retreat" law does not protect men who stalk,
>> >hunt down and kill their prey.
>>
>> Funny that you leave out the part about Martin being on top of Zimmerman
>> >hunt down and kill their prey.
>>
>> punching him as described by witnesses or Zimmermans cries for help head on the
>> 911 call.
>
>And you being more hilarious by leaving out this part:
>
>“This was not self defense,” Cutcher said. “We heard no fighting, no
>wrestling, no punching. We heard a boy crying. As soon as the shot
>went off, it stopped, which tells me it was the child crying. If it
>had been Zimmerman crying, it wouldn’t have stopped. If you’re
>hurting, you’re hurting.”
>
>She and her friend say they heard the sounds from a few steps away,
>where they were inside beside an open window. Seconds later, they
>dashed out to find a boy face down on the ground and a man standing
>over him, a foot on each side of the body on the ground, with his
>hands pinning the shooting victim down.
>
>“I asked him, ‘What’s happening here? What’s going on?’ said Cutcher’s
>friend, who did not want her name published for fear for her safety.
>“The third time, I was indignant, and he said, ‘just call the police.’
>Then I saw him with his hands over his head in the universal sign of:
>‘Oh man, I messed up.’”
What part was the "messed up" about?
David Hartung
Mar 26, 2012, 8:14:32 AM3/26/12
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On 03/26/2012 02:53 AM, Alan Ferris wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:35:47 -0500, David Hartung<da...@hotmaiil.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 03/25/2012 04:39 PM, Alan Ferris wrote:
>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:08:58 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12
>>> <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why so much emphasis on this shooting?
>>>
>>> The emphasis is the lack of police action following the shooting.
>>
>> Given that most investigation work is low key, how do you now that there
>> was no police action?
>
> The fact they have owned up to not doing enough and the fact they are
> being investigated as to why they did not do enough.
\
>
> None of the police had bothered to check the 999 calls which clearly
> changed the whole nature of the shooting.
Exactly how do you know this?
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:35:47 -0500, David Hartung<da...@hotmaiil.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 03/25/2012 04:39 PM, Alan Ferris wrote:
>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:08:58 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12
>>> <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why so much emphasis on this shooting?
>>>
>>> The emphasis is the lack of police action following the shooting.
>>
>> Given that most investigation work is low key, how do you now that there
>> was no police action?
>
> The fact they have owned up to not doing enough and the fact they are
> being investigated as to why they did not do enough.
\
>
> None of the police had bothered to check the 999 calls which clearly
> changed the whole nature of the shooting.
> George Zimmerman fears that Trayvon Martin, the “suspicious character
> who appears to be on drugs” is running away. George Zimmerman said,
> “These assholes always get away.”
> How the hell can you be standing your ground from somebody running
> away?
> The police and Zimmerman were hoping this would all blow over, and it
> would have if the parents had not demanded the 911 call log, that was
> when it all changed.
show me where the police are required to release those logs, and tose
recordings.
> Whatever you believe about the guys guilt or innocence, there was
> clearly grounds for a full investigation and charges to be brought. It
> is NOT for the police to find guilt or innocence, that is for a jury.
grand jury. That alone tells me that the investigation was ongoing, and
that the police did not drop the ball.
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 9:05:46 AM3/26/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:00:49 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>The law is actually called "Stand Your Ground", according to its
>>author, its signer (Governor Jeb Bush) and Faux News.
>>-Ramon
>
>Fox News passed the law???
>
>You didn't comment on the recent 5 black men cutting the throats of 3 whites
>then robbing them in their own home. This didn't make the national news, you
>know.
Were they arrested? Were they charged? Did the police cover up their
>>The law is actually called "Stand Your Ground", according to its
>>author, its signer (Governor Jeb Bush) and Faux News.
>>-Ramon
>
>Fox News passed the law???
>
>You didn't comment on the recent 5 black men cutting the throats of 3 whites
>then robbing them in their own home. This didn't make the national news, you
>know.
crimes? How do you really think that compares?
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 9:06:38 AM3/26/12
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Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 9:07:51 AM3/26/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:12:20 -0500, First. Post
From the only eyewitness it was the other way round. So how come you
no different. Care to post your facts that prove the only eye witness
wrong? Why did the eye witness claim the boy was screaming for help
if he was beating your hero up?
no different. Care to post your facts that prove the only eye witness
wrong? Why did the eye witness claim the boy was screaming for help
if he was beating your hero up?
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 9:08:33 AM3/26/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 06:58:58 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>The florida "No duty to retreat" law does not protect men who stalk,
>>hunt down and kill their prey.
>
>He was acting to protect the neighborhood. You forgot that one.
So you can shoot anybody, even if they are not doing anything?
>>The florida "No duty to retreat" law does not protect men who stalk,
>>hunt down and kill their prey.
>
>He was acting to protect the neighborhood. You forgot that one.
What was he protecting them from?
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 9:09:22 AM3/26/12
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start to beat up on them and then shoot them?
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 9:15:38 AM3/26/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:14:32 -0500, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com>
changed the whole nature of this from just the parents being concerned
to others looking into the whole investigation.
>> George Zimmerman fears that Trayvon Martin, the “suspicious character
>> who appears to be on drugs” is running away. George Zimmerman said,
>> “These assholes always get away.”
>
>Which does not say anything about how the police have handles this.
It should have changed their whole response to the investigation
rather than just doing the bare minimum to make it go away.
>> How the hell can you be standing your ground from somebody running
>> away?
>
>Again, that speaks to Zimmerman's conduct, not police conduct.
It speaks of the lack of investigation by the police to consider this.
They have simply accepted his statement and gone no further.
>> The police and Zimmerman were hoping this would all blow over, and it
>> would have if the parents had not demanded the 911 call log, that was
>> when it all changed.
>
>You have yet to provide any evidence which supports this claim. Also,
>show me where the police are required to release those logs, and tose
>recordings.
So what do you think the police were doing when they shut down the
investigation after a day, let the man go with his gun licence, passed
it to prosecutors with recommendation no action be taken?
Why had they not talked to the only eye witness till now?
>> Whatever you believe about the guys guilt or innocence, there was
>> clearly grounds for a full investigation and charges to be brought. It
>> is NOT for the police to find guilt or innocence, that is for a jury.
>
>Agreed, and withing 6 weeks of the shooting, the case is going to a
>grand jury. That alone tells me that the investigation was ongoing, and
>that the police did not drop the ball.
It is going to a grand jury now, it took 1 month for anybody to take
notice of anything, because only then did the parents obtain the 911
tapes and were able to show that no investigation had been undertaken
and the lies told on the day were just that, lies.
I do not know of any police officer who would close a case before
talking to the one and only in dependant eye witness. So why did it
happen here? This is clearly why the police themselves are also being
investigated.
wrote:
>On 03/26/2012 02:53 AM, Alan Ferris wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:35:47 -0500, David Hartung<da...@hotmaiil.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/25/2012 04:39 PM, Alan Ferris wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:08:58 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12
>>>> <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why so much emphasis on this shooting?
>>>>
>>>> The emphasis is the lack of police action following the shooting.
>>>
>>> Given that most investigation work is low key, how do you now that there
>>> was no police action?
>>
>> The fact they have owned up to not doing enough and the fact they are
>> being investigated as to why they did not do enough.
>\
>>
>> None of the police had bothered to check the 999 calls which clearly
>> changed the whole nature of the shooting.
>
>Exactly how do you know this?
Because the family had to make them get them, the moment they did it
>On 03/26/2012 02:53 AM, Alan Ferris wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:35:47 -0500, David Hartung<da...@hotmaiil.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/25/2012 04:39 PM, Alan Ferris wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:08:58 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12
>>>> <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why so much emphasis on this shooting?
>>>>
>>>> The emphasis is the lack of police action following the shooting.
>>>
>>> Given that most investigation work is low key, how do you now that there
>>> was no police action?
>>
>> The fact they have owned up to not doing enough and the fact they are
>> being investigated as to why they did not do enough.
>\
>>
>> None of the police had bothered to check the 999 calls which clearly
>> changed the whole nature of the shooting.
>
>Exactly how do you know this?
changed the whole nature of this from just the parents being concerned
to others looking into the whole investigation.
>> George Zimmerman fears that Trayvon Martin, the “suspicious character
>> who appears to be on drugs” is running away. George Zimmerman said,
>> “These assholes always get away.”
>
>Which does not say anything about how the police have handles this.
rather than just doing the bare minimum to make it go away.
>> How the hell can you be standing your ground from somebody running
>> away?
>
>Again, that speaks to Zimmerman's conduct, not police conduct.
They have simply accepted his statement and gone no further.
>> The police and Zimmerman were hoping this would all blow over, and it
>> would have if the parents had not demanded the 911 call log, that was
>> when it all changed.
>
>You have yet to provide any evidence which supports this claim. Also,
>show me where the police are required to release those logs, and tose
>recordings.
investigation after a day, let the man go with his gun licence, passed
it to prosecutors with recommendation no action be taken?
Why had they not talked to the only eye witness till now?
>> Whatever you believe about the guys guilt or innocence, there was
>> clearly grounds for a full investigation and charges to be brought. It
>> is NOT for the police to find guilt or innocence, that is for a jury.
>
>Agreed, and withing 6 weeks of the shooting, the case is going to a
>grand jury. That alone tells me that the investigation was ongoing, and
>that the police did not drop the ball.
notice of anything, because only then did the parents obtain the 911
tapes and were able to show that no investigation had been undertaken
and the lies told on the day were just that, lies.
I do not know of any police officer who would close a case before
talking to the one and only in dependant eye witness. So why did it
happen here? This is clearly why the police themselves are also being
investigated.
David Hartung
Mar 26, 2012, 9:19:15 AM3/26/12
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assume, that is all.
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 10:22:51 AM3/26/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:19:15 -0500, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com>
Zimmerman's statement disagree with eyewitness:
---------------------------------------------------
"I think there were efforts made to render aid to Trayvon," Craig
Sonner (Zimmerman's Lawyer)
Cutcher added that Zimmerman told her and her roommate to call the
police. "Zimmerman never turned him over or tried to help him or CPR
or anything," Cutcher said.
-------------------------------------------------
Police and state's attorney step asside because of their handling of
the shooting:
------------------------------------------------------
Amid the outcry over the lack of charges against Zimmerman, the
Sanford police chief and state's attorney in the case have both
stepped aside.
-------------------------------------------------------
Action is only now being taken to correctly investigate this
----------------------------------------------------------
The U.S. Justice Department has opened a civil rights probe into the
shooting, and a grand jury is scheduled to meet April 10 to consider
evidence in the case.
-------------------------------------------------
Beter not carry cany and soda in Texas unless you look suspicious:
------------------------------------------------
Martin was holding a bag of the candy while walking to his father's
fiancée's home from a convenience store when Zimmerman started
following him, telling police dispatchers he looked suspicious.
-----------------------------------------------
Associated Press and Reuters
---------------------------------------------------
"I think there were efforts made to render aid to Trayvon," Craig
Sonner (Zimmerman's Lawyer)
Cutcher added that Zimmerman told her and her roommate to call the
police. "Zimmerman never turned him over or tried to help him or CPR
or anything," Cutcher said.
-------------------------------------------------
Police and state's attorney step asside because of their handling of
the shooting:
------------------------------------------------------
Amid the outcry over the lack of charges against Zimmerman, the
Sanford police chief and state's attorney in the case have both
stepped aside.
-------------------------------------------------------
Action is only now being taken to correctly investigate this
----------------------------------------------------------
The U.S. Justice Department has opened a civil rights probe into the
shooting, and a grand jury is scheduled to meet April 10 to consider
evidence in the case.
-------------------------------------------------
Beter not carry cany and soda in Texas unless you look suspicious:
------------------------------------------------
Martin was holding a bag of the candy while walking to his father's
fiancée's home from a convenience store when Zimmerman started
following him, telling police dispatchers he looked suspicious.
-----------------------------------------------
Associated Press and Reuters
David Hartung
Mar 26, 2012, 10:54:36 AM3/26/12
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1. Based upon what little I know, it is impossible to assertain
Zimmerman's guilt or innocence, but I personally believe that he will be
charged and convicted.
2.From what little *solid* information has been published, I beleive
that the police department has been doing their job, and that the uproar
is pure media circus.
3. I am amazed at those in this forum who declare themselves to be of
superior intellect who have rushed to judgment with little or no solid
facts upon which to base that judgment.
David Hartung
Mar 26, 2012, 10:59:13 AM3/26/12
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http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf
You may also wish to locate and read the portions of the police report
which has been published. IN it you will find that Mr. Zimmerman was
indeed taken into custody, transported to the police station and
questioned. The fact that he was released should be a very good
indication that the police had nothing on which to hold him. Without
actually arresting him, they had no constitutional grounds to draw his
blood and screen him for drugs and alcohol.
Al
Mar 26, 2012, 12:09:52 PM3/26/12
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In article <E4OdnSsffKqwHu3S...@giganews.com>,
The post-racial great uniter asked us to do some soul-searching because this
young man was shot for reasons we still don't really know.
But not a peep asking those calling for lynch mobs, those offering bounties,
those posting the home address to search their souls.
He chose to react publicly to the original incident, and if he doesn't react
publicly to these developments as well, that will be seen as tacit approval
of mob rule reminiscent of the KKK.
He pulled the same shit with #occupy, initial approval, and when things got
ugly, not a peep.
young man was shot for reasons we still don't really know.
But not a peep asking those calling for lynch mobs, those offering bounties,
those posting the home address to search their souls.
He chose to react publicly to the original incident, and if he doesn't react
publicly to these developments as well, that will be seen as tacit approval
of mob rule reminiscent of the KKK.
He pulled the same shit with #occupy, initial approval, and when things got
ugly, not a peep.
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 1:02:08 PM3/26/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:54:36 -0500, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com>
wrote:
>2.From what little *solid* information has been published, I beleive
>that the police department has been doing their job, and that the uproar
>is pure media circus.
What did they do then? Are you saying that they had not closed the
case until the uproar began? Can you tell me why then all the press
are reporting the opposite and why the Police chief and State
prosecutor stepped aside because of the closing the case down.
wrote:
>2.From what little *solid* information has been published, I beleive
>that the police department has been doing their job, and that the uproar
>is pure media circus.
case until the uproar began? Can you tell me why then all the press
are reporting the opposite and why the Police chief and State
prosecutor stepped aside because of the closing the case down.
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 1:04:33 PM3/26/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:09:52 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>But not a peep asking those calling for lynch mobs, those offering bounties,
>those posting the home address to search their souls.
You are the first to raise this. I totally agree with condemning
them. In fact I am reading now news reports where people have
condemned the "rewards" and death threats made.
How do you feel about the people making excuses for killing a black
just because some other black people have committed a crime? That is
just as sick, claiming it is ok to shoot any black for a crime another
has committed.
wrote:
>But not a peep asking those calling for lynch mobs, those offering bounties,
>those posting the home address to search their souls.
them. In fact I am reading now news reports where people have
condemned the "rewards" and death threats made.
How do you feel about the people making excuses for killing a black
just because some other black people have committed a crime? That is
just as sick, claiming it is ok to shoot any black for a crime another
has committed.
Al
Mar 26, 2012, 1:23:07 PM3/26/12
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In article <g981n79i7nltf0p06...@4ax.com>,
failure to comment on the issue of mob action as a quiet approval?
>
> How do you feel about the people making excuses for killing a black
> just because some other black people have committed a crime?
Many of them are pointing out that the cry of the mob - telling us young
black men are in grave danger from armed whites - is just pure bullshot, and
that the greatest physical threat young blacks face in America is from young
blacks, and Hispanics - not white people.
It's called "truth", and the cry from the mob which urges vigilanye actions
are playing on falsehoods and emotions.
They are leftists, that's all they know how to do.
> That is
> just as sick, claiming it is ok to shoot any black for a crime another
> has committed.
How you interpret statements of fact is your own problem, mate.
Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:09:52 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >But not a peep asking those calling for lynch mobs, those offering bounties,
> >those posting the home address to search their souls.
>
> You are the first to raise this. I totally agree with condemning
> them. In fact I am reading now news reports where people have
> condemned the "rewards" and death threats made.
Since the President chose to weigh in early on the matter, would you see his
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:09:52 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >But not a peep asking those calling for lynch mobs, those offering bounties,
> >those posting the home address to search their souls.
>
> You are the first to raise this. I totally agree with condemning
> them. In fact I am reading now news reports where people have
> condemned the "rewards" and death threats made.
failure to comment on the issue of mob action as a quiet approval?
>
> How do you feel about the people making excuses for killing a black
> just because some other black people have committed a crime?
black men are in grave danger from armed whites - is just pure bullshot, and
that the greatest physical threat young blacks face in America is from young
blacks, and Hispanics - not white people.
It's called "truth", and the cry from the mob which urges vigilanye actions
are playing on falsehoods and emotions.
They are leftists, that's all they know how to do.
> That is
> just as sick, claiming it is ok to shoot any black for a crime another
> has committed.
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 1:32:33 PM3/26/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:59:13 -0500, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com>
They did not need to pass along a recommendation for no further action
without a full and proper investigation. Which I understand the
police force itself is now being investigated over. If they had done
everything correctly then there would not be all this trouble and not
need an investigation. Clearly there was an eye witness who disagreed
with his statement, you cannot then in all conscience say you have
fully investigated to ignore such evidence. How about the fact that
nobody spoke to his girlfriend whom he was speaking to when he was
shot?
That is appalling investigation. There is no doubt about that.
Clearly somebody had made a decision as to what had gone on and
decided that a full investigation was not parented.
without a full and proper investigation. Which I understand the
police force itself is now being investigated over. If they had done
everything correctly then there would not be all this trouble and not
need an investigation. Clearly there was an eye witness who disagreed
with his statement, you cannot then in all conscience say you have
fully investigated to ignore such evidence. How about the fact that
nobody spoke to his girlfriend whom he was speaking to when he was
shot?
That is appalling investigation. There is no doubt about that.
Clearly somebody had made a decision as to what had gone on and
decided that a full investigation was not parented.
David Hartung
Mar 26, 2012, 2:03:12 PM3/26/12
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been closed?
Message has been deleted
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 2:43:09 PM3/26/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:03:12 -0500, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com>
wrote:
>> What did they do then? Are you saying that they had not closed the
>> case until the uproar began? Can you tell me why then all the press
>> are reporting the opposite and why the Police chief and State
>> prosecutor stepped aside because of the closing the case down.
>
>Where did the police chief and state prosecutor say that the case had
>been closed?
It had. Which was why there was a "no confidence" vote from the city
commissioners. This all stemming from his recommendation that:
evidence in the case supported George Zimmerman's claim that the Feb.
26 shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was self-defense.
Clearly once the uproar started he had to go.
Corey's team is now reinvestigating a case that the Sanford Police
Department is accused of bungling. Possible police missteps include
failing to administer a toxicology exam on Zimmerman, not impounding
his car, and failing to contact key witnesses -- like Martin's
girlfriend, who was talking to the teen by cell phone and heard most
of the scuffle with Zimmerman unfold.
http://gma.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-killing-lead-prosecutor-says-george-zimmerman-030349598--abc-news.html
wrote:
>> What did they do then? Are you saying that they had not closed the
>> case until the uproar began? Can you tell me why then all the press
>> are reporting the opposite and why the Police chief and State
>> prosecutor stepped aside because of the closing the case down.
>
>Where did the police chief and state prosecutor say that the case had
>been closed?
commissioners. This all stemming from his recommendation that:
evidence in the case supported George Zimmerman's claim that the Feb.
26 shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was self-defense.
Clearly once the uproar started he had to go.
Corey's team is now reinvestigating a case that the Sanford Police
Department is accused of bungling. Possible police missteps include
failing to administer a toxicology exam on Zimmerman, not impounding
his car, and failing to contact key witnesses -- like Martin's
girlfriend, who was talking to the teen by cell phone and heard most
of the scuffle with Zimmerman unfold.
http://gma.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-killing-lead-prosecutor-says-george-zimmerman-030349598--abc-news.html
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 3:35:30 PM3/26/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:42:23 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:54:36 -0500, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com>
>wrote:
>>
Nor clearly with the police department being investigated for not
doing its job properly.
>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:54:36 -0500, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com>
>wrote:
>>
>>2.From what little *solid* information has been published, I beleive
>>that the police department has been doing their job, and that the uproar
>>is pure media circus.
>
>Then you don't see a problem with #1?
>>that the police department has been doing their job, and that the uproar
>>is pure media circus.
>
Nor clearly with the police department being investigated for not
doing its job properly.
David Hartung
Mar 26, 2012, 3:49:12 PM3/26/12
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On 03/26/2012 01:43 PM, Alan Ferris wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:03:12 -0500, David Hartung<da...@hotmaiil.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> What did they do then? Are you saying that they had not closed the
>>> case until the uproar began? Can you tell me why then all the press
>>> are reporting the opposite and why the Police chief and State
>>> prosecutor stepped aside because of the closing the case down.
>>
>> Where did the police chief and state prosecutor say that the case had
>> been closed?
>
> It had. Which was why there was a "no confidence" vote from the city
> commissioners. This all stemming from his recommendation that:
> evidence in the case supported George Zimmerman's claim that the Feb.
> 26 shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was self-defense.
At this point, all we have is your claim that the case had been closed.
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:03:12 -0500, David Hartung<da...@hotmaiil.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> What did they do then? Are you saying that they had not closed the
>>> case until the uproar began? Can you tell me why then all the press
>>> are reporting the opposite and why the Police chief and State
>>> prosecutor stepped aside because of the closing the case down.
>>
>> Where did the police chief and state prosecutor say that the case had
>> been closed?
>
> It had. Which was why there was a "no confidence" vote from the city
> commissioners. This all stemming from his recommendation that:
> evidence in the case supported George Zimmerman's claim that the Feb.
> 26 shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was self-defense.
What evidence can you provide to support that claim?
> Clearly once the uproar started he had to go.
>
>
> Corey's team is now reinvestigating a case that the Sanford Police
> Department is accused of bungling. Possible police missteps include
> failing to administer a toxicology exam on Zimmerman, not impounding
> his car, and failing to contact key witnesses -- like Martin's
> girlfriend, who was talking to the teen by cell phone and heard most
> of the scuffle with Zimmerman unfold.
> http://gma.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-killing-lead-prosecutor-says-george-zimmerman-030349598--abc-news.html
case. I did, however, find this:
"Corey's team is now reinvestigating a case that the Sanford Police
Department is accused of bungling. Possible police missteps include
failing to administer a toxicology exam on Zimmerman, not impounding his
car, and failing to contact key witnesses -- like Martin's girlfriend,
who was talking to the teen by cell phone and heard most of the scuffle
with Zimmerman unfold."
Note that the article says"possible" missteps. Also note that in making
Department is accused of bungling. Possible police missteps include
failing to administer a toxicology exam on Zimmerman, not impounding his
car, and failing to contact key witnesses -- like Martin's girlfriend,
who was talking to the teen by cell phone and heard most of the scuffle
with Zimmerman unfold."
that statement the reporter does not cite comments from any police
source, so the comment was likely the reporter's, judgment, rather than
that of a knowledgeable legal expert.
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 4:16:10 PM3/26/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:49:12 -0500, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com>
You cannot reexamine and open case. So why just before his steeping
down did the States Attorney state they would reexamine the case?
down did the States Attorney state they would reexamine the case?
First. Post
Mar 26, 2012, 6:13:49 PM3/26/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:02:08 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
So you take the word of a media that thrives on stirring up shit as opposed to
official documentation do ya?
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf
Yeah, I know, you aren't even going to open the link due to the fear that it
might actually state the facts as they are as ooposed to what you want them to
be.
wrote:
official documentation do ya?
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf
Yeah, I know, you aren't even going to open the link due to the fear that it
might actually state the facts as they are as ooposed to what you want them to
be.
First. Post
Mar 26, 2012, 6:14:42 PM3/26/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:04:33 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
And who is claiming that?
wrote:
Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 6:47:21 PM3/26/12
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Alan Ferris
Mar 26, 2012, 6:48:32 PM3/26/12
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investigation. If as you say they did everything right, why then is
there any need to investigate their actions? Why did the chief of
police receive a no confidence vote?
David Hartung
Mar 26, 2012, 6:53:23 PM3/26/12
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Juan Hungloe
Mar 26, 2012, 6:59:47 PM3/26/12
to
On Mar 26, 5:48 pm, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:13:49 -0500, First. Post
>
>
>
>
>
> <OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:13:49 -0500, First. Post
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:02:08 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk>
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:54:36 -0500, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com>
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>2.From what little *solid* information has been published, I beleive
> >>>that the police department has been doing their job, and that the uproar
> >>>is pure media circus.
>
> >>What did they do then? Are you saying that they had not closed the
> >>case until the uproar began? Can you tell me why then all the press
> >>are reporting the opposite and why the Police chief and State
> >>prosecutor stepped aside because of the closing the case down.
>
> >So you take the word of a media that thrives on stirring up shit as opposed to
> >official documentation do ya?
>
> >http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting...
>
> >>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:54:36 -0500, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com>
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>2.From what little *solid* information has been published, I beleive
> >>>that the police department has been doing their job, and that the uproar
> >>>is pure media circus.
>
> >>What did they do then? Are you saying that they had not closed the
> >>case until the uproar began? Can you tell me why then all the press
> >>are reporting the opposite and why the Police chief and State
> >>prosecutor stepped aside because of the closing the case down.
>
> >So you take the word of a media that thrives on stirring up shit as opposed to
> >official documentation do ya?
>
>
> >Yeah, I know, you aren't even going to open the link due to the fear that it
> >might actually state the facts as they are as ooposed to what you want them to
> >be.
>
> I would expect nothing less from the police force that is under
> investigation. If as you say they did everything right, why then is
> there any need to investigate their actions? Why did the chief of
> police receive a no confidence vote?
>
> --
> Ferrit
>
> ()'.'.'()
> ( (T) )
> ( ) . ( )
> (")_(")- Hide quoted text -
> >Yeah, I know, you aren't even going to open the link due to the fear that it
> >might actually state the facts as they are as ooposed to what you want them to
> >be.
>
> I would expect nothing less from the police force that is under
> investigation. If as you say they did everything right, why then is
> there any need to investigate their actions? Why did the chief of
> police receive a no confidence vote?
>
> --
> Ferrit
>
> ()'.'.'()
> ( (T) )
> ( ) . ( )
>
> - Show quoted text -
Are you under the impression that EVERY police Chief and Police dept.
is perfect? I'm surprised Obama didn't get on the stump and
claim,"They acted foolishly".
First. Post
Mar 26, 2012, 7:19:58 PM3/26/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 23:48:32 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
any and all bad publicity. All of the articles regarding the chief of police
start out by stating "As a result of the public outcry" which means like
yourself, the city commission is jerking their little knees to death trying to
avoid any possible culpability over something that Isn't even through being
investigated yet.
Told ya you wouldn't even read the document didn't I?
If you had you would have seen which statutes and codes they followed.
And by your statement implying that you know the police are only trying to cover
their ass infers that you think all police are criminal therefore you will not
accept anything from them as being truthful.
Coming from someone that only knows about police in the US from reading whatever
articles suit your fancy, that's pretty ludicrous.
It is quite obvious by your endless comments on the matter that even if
Zimmerman is given a fair trial (which isn't likely at this point since the jury
pool can't help but be skewed due to the ridiculous amount of publicity) and
acquitted you'll simply argue that the jury was either stupid or biased or both.
If he is tried and found guilty of manslaughter then whatever punishment this
side of death assigned will no doubt be too light for your liking.
Somewhat understandable considering you live in a nation that prosecuted a
homeowner for defending his wife and family for using a shotgun to do so and
then parading the two robbers around as victims of gun violence.
wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:13:49 -0500, First. Post
><OccupiersDu...@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:02:08 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:54:36 -0500, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>2.From what little *solid* information has been published, I beleive
>>>>that the police department has been doing their job, and that the uproar
>>>>is pure media circus.
>>>
>>>What did they do then? Are you saying that they had not closed the
>>>case until the uproar began? Can you tell me why then all the press
>>>are reporting the opposite and why the Police chief and State
>>>prosecutor stepped aside because of the closing the case down.
>>
>>So you take the word of a media that thrives on stirring up shit as opposed to
>>official documentation do ya?
>>
>>http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf
>>
>>Yeah, I know, you aren't even going to open the link due to the fear that it
>>might actually state the facts as they are as ooposed to what you want them to
>>be.
>>
>
>I would expect nothing less from the police force that is under
>investigation. If as you say they did everything right, why then is
>there any need to investigate their actions? Why did the chief of
>police receive a no confidence vote?
Because a bunch of POLITICIANS making up the city commission are trying to avoid
>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:13:49 -0500, First. Post
><OccupiersDu...@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:02:08 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:54:36 -0500, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>2.From what little *solid* information has been published, I beleive
>>>>that the police department has been doing their job, and that the uproar
>>>>is pure media circus.
>>>
>>>What did they do then? Are you saying that they had not closed the
>>>case until the uproar began? Can you tell me why then all the press
>>>are reporting the opposite and why the Police chief and State
>>>prosecutor stepped aside because of the closing the case down.
>>
>>So you take the word of a media that thrives on stirring up shit as opposed to
>>official documentation do ya?
>>
>>http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf
>>
>>Yeah, I know, you aren't even going to open the link due to the fear that it
>>might actually state the facts as they are as ooposed to what you want them to
>>be.
>>
>
>I would expect nothing less from the police force that is under
>investigation. If as you say they did everything right, why then is
>there any need to investigate their actions? Why did the chief of
>police receive a no confidence vote?
any and all bad publicity. All of the articles regarding the chief of police
start out by stating "As a result of the public outcry" which means like
yourself, the city commission is jerking their little knees to death trying to
avoid any possible culpability over something that Isn't even through being
investigated yet.
Told ya you wouldn't even read the document didn't I?
If you had you would have seen which statutes and codes they followed.
And by your statement implying that you know the police are only trying to cover
their ass infers that you think all police are criminal therefore you will not
accept anything from them as being truthful.
Coming from someone that only knows about police in the US from reading whatever
articles suit your fancy, that's pretty ludicrous.
It is quite obvious by your endless comments on the matter that even if
Zimmerman is given a fair trial (which isn't likely at this point since the jury
pool can't help but be skewed due to the ridiculous amount of publicity) and
acquitted you'll simply argue that the jury was either stupid or biased or both.
If he is tried and found guilty of manslaughter then whatever punishment this
side of death assigned will no doubt be too light for your liking.
Somewhat understandable considering you live in a nation that prosecuted a
homeowner for defending his wife and family for using a shotgun to do so and
then parading the two robbers around as victims of gun violence.
duke
Mar 27, 2012, 7:55:47 AM3/27/12
to
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:05:46 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:00:49 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>The law is actually called "Stand Your Ground", according to its
>>>author, its signer (Governor Jeb Bush) and Faux News.
>>>-Ramon
>>
>>Fox News passed the law???
>>
>>You didn't comment on the recent 5 black men cutting the throats of 3 whites
>>then robbing them in their own home. This didn't make the national news, you
>>know.
>
>Were they arrested? Were they charged? Did the police cover up their
>crimes? How do you really think that compares?
Yes, yes, no, it's intuitively obvious. A white killing a black makes national
news. 5 blacks slitting the throats of 3 whites doesn't.
duke, American - American
*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****
wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:00:49 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>The law is actually called "Stand Your Ground", according to its
>>>author, its signer (Governor Jeb Bush) and Faux News.
>>>-Ramon
>>
>>Fox News passed the law???
>>
>>You didn't comment on the recent 5 black men cutting the throats of 3 whites
>>then robbing them in their own home. This didn't make the national news, you
>>know.
>
>Were they arrested? Were they charged? Did the police cover up their
>crimes? How do you really think that compares?
Yes, yes, no, it's intuitively obvious. A white killing a black makes national
news. 5 blacks slitting the throats of 3 whites doesn't.
duke, American - American
*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****
duke
Mar 27, 2012, 7:56:14 AM3/27/12
to
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:08:33 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 06:58:58 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>The florida "No duty to retreat" law does not protect men who stalk,
>>>hunt down and kill their prey.
>>
>>He was acting to protect the neighborhood. You forgot that one.
>
>So you can shoot anybody, even if they are not doing anything?
>
>What was he protecting them from?
From a hood.
wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 06:58:58 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>The florida "No duty to retreat" law does not protect men who stalk,
>>>hunt down and kill their prey.
>>
>>He was acting to protect the neighborhood. You forgot that one.
>
>So you can shoot anybody, even if they are not doing anything?
>
>What was he protecting them from?
From a hood.
Alan Ferris
Mar 27, 2012, 2:35:03 PM3/27/12
to
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:55:47 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:05:46 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:00:49 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>The law is actually called "Stand Your Ground", according to its
>>>>author, its signer (Governor Jeb Bush) and Faux News.
>>>>-Ramon
>>>
>>>Fox News passed the law???
>>>
>>>You didn't comment on the recent 5 black men cutting the throats of 3 whites
>>>then robbing them in their own home. This didn't make the national news, you
>>>know.
>>
>>Were they arrested? Were they charged? Did the police cover up their
>>crimes? How do you really think that compares?
>
>Yes, yes, no, it's intuitively obvious. A white killing a black makes national
>news. 5 blacks slitting the throats of 3 whites doesn't.
>
Poor duke does not realise that this one hit the news for the very
>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:05:46 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:00:49 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>The law is actually called "Stand Your Ground", according to its
>>>>author, its signer (Governor Jeb Bush) and Faux News.
>>>>-Ramon
>>>
>>>Fox News passed the law???
>>>
>>>You didn't comment on the recent 5 black men cutting the throats of 3 whites
>>>then robbing them in their own home. This didn't make the national news, you
>>>know.
>>
>>Were they arrested? Were they charged? Did the police cover up their
>>crimes? How do you really think that compares?
>
>Yes, yes, no, it's intuitively obvious. A white killing a black makes national
>news. 5 blacks slitting the throats of 3 whites doesn't.
>
answers he has given.
Alan Ferris
Mar 27, 2012, 2:36:03 PM3/27/12
to
>Are you under the impression that EVERY police Chief and Police dept.
>is perfect? I'm surprised Obama didn't get on the stump and
>claim,"They acted foolishly".
Not perfect, no. But this is far more than simple error.
>is perfect? I'm surprised Obama didn't get on the stump and
>claim,"They acted foolishly".
Paul Duca
Mar 27, 2012, 3:05:04 PM3/27/12
to
On Mar 27, 2:35 pm, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:55:47 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:05:46 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk>
> >wrote:
same level of angry hysteria he does...but that's because he has
nothing else to occupy himself.
Paul
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:55:47 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:05:46 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk>
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:00:49 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>The law is actually called "Stand Your Ground", according to its
> >>>>author, its signer (Governor Jeb Bush) and Faux News.
> >>>>-Ramon
>
> >>>Fox News passed the law???
>
> >>>You didn't comment on the recent 5 black men cutting the throats of 3 whites
> >>>then robbing them in their own home. This didn't make the national news, you
> >>>know.
>
> >>Were they arrested? Were they charged? Did the police cover up their
> >>crimes? How do you really think that compares?
>
> >Yes, yes, no, it's intuitively obvious. A white killing a black makes national
> >news. 5 blacks slitting the throats of 3 whites doesn't.
>
> Poor duke does not realise that this one hit the news for the very
> answers he has given.
Duke is annoyed everyone else doesn't give black-on-white crime the
> >>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:00:49 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>The law is actually called "Stand Your Ground", according to its
> >>>>author, its signer (Governor Jeb Bush) and Faux News.
> >>>>-Ramon
>
> >>>Fox News passed the law???
>
> >>>You didn't comment on the recent 5 black men cutting the throats of 3 whites
> >>>then robbing them in their own home. This didn't make the national news, you
> >>>know.
>
> >>Were they arrested? Were they charged? Did the police cover up their
> >>crimes? How do you really think that compares?
>
> >Yes, yes, no, it's intuitively obvious. A white killing a black makes national
> >news. 5 blacks slitting the throats of 3 whites doesn't.
>
> Poor duke does not realise that this one hit the news for the very
> answers he has given.
same level of angry hysteria he does...but that's because he has
nothing else to occupy himself.
Paul
Paul Duca
Mar 27, 2012, 3:03:23 PM3/27/12
to
On Mar 27, 7:56 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:08:33 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:08:33 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 06:58:58 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>>The florida "No duty to retreat" law does not protect men who stalk,
> >>>hunt down and kill their prey.
>
> >>He was acting to protect the neighborhood. You forgot that one.
>
> >So you can shoot anybody, even if they are not doing anything?
>
> >What was he protecting them from?
>
> From a hood. God bless Fox News for telling me how DANGEROUS they are...I wouldn't have know otherwise.
> >On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 06:58:58 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>>The florida "No duty to retreat" law does not protect men who stalk,
> >>>hunt down and kill their prey.
>
> >>He was acting to protect the neighborhood. You forgot that one.
>
> >So you can shoot anybody, even if they are not doing anything?
>
> >What was he protecting them from?
>
David Hartung
Mar 27, 2012, 3:17:51 PM3/27/12
to
http://tinyurl.com/cqcu2m2
[...]
Former NAACP leader C.L. Bryant is accusing Jesse Jackson and Al
Sharpton of “exploiting” the Trayvon Martin tragedy to “racially divide
this country.”
“His family should be outraged at the fact that they’re using this child
as the bait to inflame racial passions,” Rev. C.L. Bryant said in a
Monday interview with The Daily Caller.
The conservative black pastor who was once the chapter president of the
Garland, Texas NAACP called Jackson and Sharpton “race hustlers” and
said they are “acting as though they are buzzards circling the carcass
of this young boy.”
Read more:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/former-naacp-leader-accuses-sharpton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/#ixzz1qLXAK0vz
[...]
But Bryant, who explores the topic of black-on-black crime in his new
film “Runaway Slave,” said people like Jackson and Sharpton are being
misleading to suggest there is an epidemic of “white men killing black
young men.”
“The epidemic is truly black on black crime,” Bryant said. “The greatest
danger to the lives of young black men are young black men.”
Read more:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/former-naacp-leader-accuses-sharpton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/#ixzz1qLXItwNu
[...]
Perhaps the real "criminals" here are the likes of Jackson and Sharpton?
Instead of counseling patience and reason, they are fanning the flames
of racial unrest.
[...]
Former NAACP leader C.L. Bryant is accusing Jesse Jackson and Al
Sharpton of “exploiting” the Trayvon Martin tragedy to “racially divide
this country.”
“His family should be outraged at the fact that they’re using this child
as the bait to inflame racial passions,” Rev. C.L. Bryant said in a
Monday interview with The Daily Caller.
The conservative black pastor who was once the chapter president of the
Garland, Texas NAACP called Jackson and Sharpton “race hustlers” and
said they are “acting as though they are buzzards circling the carcass
of this young boy.”
Read more:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/former-naacp-leader-accuses-sharpton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/#ixzz1qLXAK0vz
[...]
But Bryant, who explores the topic of black-on-black crime in his new
film “Runaway Slave,” said people like Jackson and Sharpton are being
misleading to suggest there is an epidemic of “white men killing black
young men.”
“The epidemic is truly black on black crime,” Bryant said. “The greatest
danger to the lives of young black men are young black men.”
Read more:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/former-naacp-leader-accuses-sharpton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/#ixzz1qLXItwNu
[...]
Perhaps the real "criminals" here are the likes of Jackson and Sharpton?
Instead of counseling patience and reason, they are fanning the flames
of racial unrest.
Alan Ferris
Mar 27, 2012, 4:07:57 PM3/27/12
to
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:17:51 -0500, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com>
wrote:
I have always felt that Jessie has done more to harm the black
community than to help them at times. At other times he has done
good, sadly this is not one of them,
wrote:
community than to help them at times. At other times he has done
good, sadly this is not one of them,
First. Post
Mar 27, 2012, 6:33:11 PM3/27/12
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:36:03 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
And you know that how exactly sitting on your ass across an ocean?
All you think you know is what you choose to believe from half assed articles
written by others that are also knee jerking their opinions without any real
evidence.
And when anyone presents you with any real documentation you simply ignore it as
you have recently proven or you try to claim that it is bogus like a damned
idiot.
All you think you know is what you choose to believe from half assed articles
written by others that are also knee jerking their opinions without any real
evidence.
And when anyone presents you with any real documentation you simply ignore it as
you have recently proven or you try to claim that it is bogus like a damned
idiot.
First. Post
Mar 27, 2012, 6:47:57 PM3/27/12
to
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:07:57 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
Why do you sqay that when he is effectively agreeing with everything you've been
saying?
wrote:
saying?
Al
Mar 27, 2012, 6:55:20 PM3/27/12
to
In article
<fe2a17f4-3121-4fd6...@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Even a single casual mention of black-on-black crime is not only angry
hysteria, it may be a crime in itself.
<fe2a17f4-3121-4fd6...@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
hysteria, it may be a crime in itself.
Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)
Mar 27, 2012, 8:20:59 PM3/27/12
to
On Mar 26, 7:58 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:15:38 -0700 (PDT), Billary <billaryclinton2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Mar 25, 10:14 am, First. Post <OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net>
> >wrote:
> >> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:58:35 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 08:20:31 -0500, First. Post
> >> ><OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net> wrote:
>
> >> >>>Permit and a firearm in his pocket. If he had then that piece of shit
> >> >>>JORGE Zimmerman would be dead instead of an innocent kid. I favor
> >> >>>lowering the CWP age to 17 nationwide.
>
> >> >>And you magically know that Martin is innocent and Zimmerman a murderer how
> >> >>exactly?
>
> >> >The fact he did not need to follow an unarmed man and shoot him. He
> >> >could not have been at risk unless he actually put himself there. Also
> >> >there has been no evidence to show that the teenager posed ANY threat
> >> >to him.
>
> >> >If anybody is walking away from you unarmed, how would they be a
> >> >threat?
>
> >> Wow, you must have really good eyesight to have seen everything that happened as
> >> well as have some really important friends in high places to know exactly what
> >> evidence is or is not present.
> >> Hell, who needs "innocent until proven guilty"? Crime and punishment should be
> >> adjudicated in the court of public opinion always yes?
> >> Who needs the police? Hell you've judged and are ready to pronounce sentence
> >> based solely on what you've chosen to read about it. No need for any judges or
> >> juries either. Gee, you've pretty much rewritten the constitution as well as
> >> redesigned the entire justice system with just a few keystrokes. And you're not
> >> even a US citizen within the US. What a milestone.
>
> >The known facts are as follows:
> >1. JORGE Zimmerman followed Trayvon Martin
> >2. Police dispatchers told him not to persue the suspect.
> >3. JORGE Zimmerman dismounted his vehicle and confronted Martin
> >4. JORGE Shot Trayvon
> >5. Trayvon died at the scene
Paul
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:15:38 -0700 (PDT), Billary <billaryclinton2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Mar 25, 10:14 am, First. Post <OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net>
> >wrote:
> >> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:58:35 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 08:20:31 -0500, First. Post
> >> ><OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net> wrote:
>
> >> >>>Permit and a firearm in his pocket. If he had then that piece of shit
> >> >>>JORGE Zimmerman would be dead instead of an innocent kid. I favor
> >> >>>lowering the CWP age to 17 nationwide.
>
> >> >>And you magically know that Martin is innocent and Zimmerman a murderer how
> >> >>exactly?
>
> >> >The fact he did not need to follow an unarmed man and shoot him. He
> >> >could not have been at risk unless he actually put himself there. Also
> >> >there has been no evidence to show that the teenager posed ANY threat
> >> >to him.
>
> >> >If anybody is walking away from you unarmed, how would they be a
> >> >threat?
>
> >> Wow, you must have really good eyesight to have seen everything that happened as
> >> well as have some really important friends in high places to know exactly what
> >> evidence is or is not present.
> >> Hell, who needs "innocent until proven guilty"? Crime and punishment should be
> >> adjudicated in the court of public opinion always yes?
> >> Who needs the police? Hell you've judged and are ready to pronounce sentence
> >> based solely on what you've chosen to read about it. No need for any judges or
> >> juries either. Gee, you've pretty much rewritten the constitution as well as
> >> redesigned the entire justice system with just a few keystrokes. And you're not
> >> even a US citizen within the US. What a milestone.
>
> >The known facts are as follows:
> >1. JORGE Zimmerman followed Trayvon Martin
> >2. Police dispatchers told him not to persue the suspect.
> >3. JORGE Zimmerman dismounted his vehicle and confronted Martin
> >4. JORGE Shot Trayvon
> >5. Trayvon died at the scene
>
> >The florida "No duty to retreat" law does not protect men who stalk,
> >hunt down and kill their prey.
>
> He was acting to protect the neighborhood. You forgot that one.
How much of a neighborhood could it be if blacks are in it?
> >The florida "No duty to retreat" law does not protect men who stalk,
> >hunt down and kill their prey.
>
> He was acting to protect the neighborhood. You forgot that one.
Paul
duke
Mar 28, 2012, 7:30:47 AM3/28/12
to
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:35:03 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:55:47 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:05:46 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:00:49 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>The law is actually called "Stand Your Ground", according to its
>>>>>author, its signer (Governor Jeb Bush) and Faux News.
>>>>>-Ramon
>>>>
>>>>Fox News passed the law???
>>>>
>>>>You didn't comment on the recent 5 black men cutting the throats of 3 whites
>>>>then robbing them in their own home. This didn't make the national news, you
>>>>know.
>>>
>>>Were they arrested? Were they charged? Did the police cover up their
>>>crimes? How do you really think that compares?
>>
>>Yes, yes, no, it's intuitively obvious. A white killing a black makes national
>>news. 5 blacks slitting the throats of 3 whites doesn't.
>Poor duke does not realise that this one hit the news for the very
>answers he has given.
Stupid ass.
>On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:55:47 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:05:46 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:00:49 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>The law is actually called "Stand Your Ground", according to its
>>>>>author, its signer (Governor Jeb Bush) and Faux News.
>>>>>-Ramon
>>>>
>>>>Fox News passed the law???
>>>>
>>>>You didn't comment on the recent 5 black men cutting the throats of 3 whites
>>>>then robbing them in their own home. This didn't make the national news, you
>>>>know.
>>>
>>>Were they arrested? Were they charged? Did the police cover up their
>>>crimes? How do you really think that compares?
>>
>>Yes, yes, no, it's intuitively obvious. A white killing a black makes national
>>news. 5 blacks slitting the throats of 3 whites doesn't.
>Poor duke does not realise that this one hit the news for the very
>answers he has given.
duke
Mar 28, 2012, 7:33:27 AM3/28/12
to
>http://tinyurl.com/cqcu2m2
>[...]
>Former NAACP leader C.L. Bryant is accusing Jesse Jackson and Al
>Sharpton of “exploiting” the Trayvon Martin tragedy to “racially divide
>this country.”
Did you see the current photos (7 years later) from those shown on national
>[...]
>Former NAACP leader C.L. Bryant is accusing Jesse Jackson and Al
>Sharpton of “exploiting” the Trayvon Martin tragedy to “racially divide
>this country.”
news? T-boy with his pants down to his knees flashing a gang sign, Zimmerman
well dressed with a big smile on his face.
>“His family should be outraged at the fact that they’re using this child
>as the bait to inflame racial passions,” Rev. C.L. Bryant said in a
>Monday interview with The Daily Caller.
>
>The conservative black pastor who was once the chapter president of the
>Garland, Texas NAACP called Jackson and Sharpton “race hustlers” and
>said they are “acting as though they are buzzards circling the carcass
>of this young boy.”
>
>Read more:
>http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/former-naacp-leader-accuses-sharpton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/#ixzz1qLXAK0vz
>[...]
>But Bryant, who explores the topic of black-on-black crime in his new
>film “Runaway Slave,” said people like Jackson and Sharpton are being
>misleading to suggest there is an epidemic of “white men killing black
>young men.”
>
>“The epidemic is truly black on black crime,” Bryant said. “The greatest
>danger to the lives of young black men are young black men.”
>
>Read more:
>http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/former-naacp-leader-accuses-sharpton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/#ixzz1qLXItwNu
>[...]
>
>Perhaps the real "criminals" here are the likes of Jackson and Sharpton?
>Instead of counseling patience and reason, they are fanning the flames
>of racial unrest.
• R. L. Measures.
Mar 28, 2012, 11:37:04 AM3/28/12
to
In article <dit5n71et9mea1mou...@4ax.com>, duke
--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:35:03 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:55:47 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:05:46 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:00:49 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>The law is actually called "Stand Your Ground", according to its
>>>>>>author, its signer (Governor Jeb Bush) and Faux News.
>>>>>>-Ramon
>>>>>
>>>>>Fox News passed the law???
>>>>>
>>>>>You didn't comment on the recent 5 black men cutting the throats of 3
whites
>>>>>then robbing them in their own home. This didn't make the national
news, you
>>>>>know.
>>>>
>>>>Were they arrested? Were they charged? Did the police cover up their
>>>>crimes? How do you really think that compares?
>>>
>>>Yes, yes, no, it's intuitively obvious. A white killing a black makes
national
>>>news. 5 blacks slitting the throats of 3 whites doesn't.
>
>>Poor duke does not realise that this one hit the news for the very
>>answers he has given.
>
>Stupid ass.
>
• congrats Alan F.
>On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:35:03 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:55:47 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:05:46 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:00:49 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>The law is actually called "Stand Your Ground", according to its
>>>>>>author, its signer (Governor Jeb Bush) and Faux News.
>>>>>>-Ramon
>>>>>
>>>>>Fox News passed the law???
>>>>>
>>>>>You didn't comment on the recent 5 black men cutting the throats of 3
whites
>>>>>then robbing them in their own home. This didn't make the national
news, you
>>>>>know.
>>>>
>>>>Were they arrested? Were they charged? Did the police cover up their
>>>>crimes? How do you really think that compares?
>>>
>>>Yes, yes, no, it's intuitively obvious. A white killing a black makes
national
>>>news. 5 blacks slitting the throats of 3 whites doesn't.
>
>>Poor duke does not realise that this one hit the news for the very
>>answers he has given.
>
>Stupid ass.
>
--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
Alan Ferris
Mar 28, 2012, 1:54:45 PM3/28/12
to
Alan Ferris
Mar 28, 2012, 1:56:26 PM3/28/12
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:33:11 -0500, First. Post
<OccupiersDu...@invalid.net> wrote:
>>>Are you under the impression that EVERY police Chief and Police dept.
>>>is perfect? I'm surprised Obama didn't get on the stump and
>>>claim,"They acted foolishly".
>>
>> Not perfect, no. But this is far more than simple error.
>
>And you know that how exactly sitting on your ass across an ocean?
>All you think you know is what you choose to believe from half assed articles
>written by others that are also knee jerking their opinions without any real
>evidence.
>And when anyone presents you with any real documentation you simply ignore it as
>you have recently proven or you try to claim that it is bogus like a damned
>idiot.
From the reasons given for the investigation into the police
<OccupiersDu...@invalid.net> wrote:
>>>Are you under the impression that EVERY police Chief and Police dept.
>>>is perfect? I'm surprised Obama didn't get on the stump and
>>>claim,"They acted foolishly".
>>
>> Not perfect, no. But this is far more than simple error.
>
>And you know that how exactly sitting on your ass across an ocean?
>All you think you know is what you choose to believe from half assed articles
>written by others that are also knee jerking their opinions without any real
>evidence.
>And when anyone presents you with any real documentation you simply ignore it as
>you have recently proven or you try to claim that it is bogus like a damned
>idiot.
department....what part of that investigation do you not get?
What part of the fact that the police never investigated witnesses do
you not get?
If somebody shot your kid, would you be happy for them to base their
whole investigation on his word and not ask any other witness?
bobo fizmarkian
Jun 16, 2012, 1:11:50 AM6/16/12
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 09:54:21 -0700, Tracey12 wrote:
> Travon is dead. We know who shot him. We know most of the
> circumstances surrounding the shooting. Yet, why is this event being
> blown up into a major national news story and potential riot?
>
>
> The answer is very apparent when Obama's response is factored in.
>
> The Welfare Pimps who are trying to keep this story alive are looking
> for live cameras and an opportunity to remind the public that they are
> the black leaders, and they represent the entire black population of
> America. By warning of coming retaliation / riots, the Welfare Pimps are
> trying to demonstrate their power and control.
>
> But, the part that is not being reported is that Obama and the Welfare
> Pimps are trying hard to draw in black support for Obama, and that is
> exactly why Obama made the remark about if he had a son, he would look
> like Trayvon.
Perhaps, Obama should say he's fascinated by this case.....
Might get attention more on it, and less on his record, and current
situation of the US...
Probably better to use some surrogates first...
The peoples need to learn the American Dream is NO MORE.... Learn to
live with your loving commissars... DEAL WITH IT, peoples.
Eventually, our whole Constitutional election thing can evolve to where
the peoples realize it's leftist President-for-life we need.... (although
not likely with this president...)
Then, the good times begin..
If the peoples will go out and support Obama in this election, there may
be some crumbs for them... They need to know, he loves them deeply.
VERY deeply. HE knows what's good for them. As do the good leftists
who post here.... STUPID PEOPLES.
--
Bobo - (What's the Jive? Bird's alive!)
> Travon is dead. We know who shot him. We know most of the
> circumstances surrounding the shooting. Yet, why is this event being
> blown up into a major national news story and potential riot?
>
>
> The answer is very apparent when Obama's response is factored in.
>
> The Welfare Pimps who are trying to keep this story alive are looking
> for live cameras and an opportunity to remind the public that they are
> the black leaders, and they represent the entire black population of
> America. By warning of coming retaliation / riots, the Welfare Pimps are
> trying to demonstrate their power and control.
>
> But, the part that is not being reported is that Obama and the Welfare
> Pimps are trying hard to draw in black support for Obama, and that is
> exactly why Obama made the remark about if he had a son, he would look
> like Trayvon.
Perhaps, Obama should say he's fascinated by this case.....
Might get attention more on it, and less on his record, and current
situation of the US...
Probably better to use some surrogates first...
The peoples need to learn the American Dream is NO MORE.... Learn to
live with your loving commissars... DEAL WITH IT, peoples.
Eventually, our whole Constitutional election thing can evolve to where
the peoples realize it's leftist President-for-life we need.... (although
not likely with this president...)
Then, the good times begin..
If the peoples will go out and support Obama in this election, there may
be some crumbs for them... They need to know, he loves them deeply.
VERY deeply. HE knows what's good for them. As do the good leftists
who post here.... STUPID PEOPLES.
--
Bobo - (What's the Jive? Bird's alive!)
Ned Gerblansky
Jun 16, 2012, 1:12:48 AM6/16/12
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Ned Gerblansky - one liners even before twitter.com existed
Boo
Jun 16, 2012, 1:14:27 AM6/16/12
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for them, but the stupid peoples don't have sense to realize it.
STUPID!
At least, it's good the Leadership of the Proletariat is here to help..
--
Boo Fetus Radley, II
Robert Fitzgerald
Jun 16, 2012, 2:07:26 AM6/16/12
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:11:50 -0500, bobo fizmarkian wrote:
that can help get African Americans to the polls. They probably aren't
too happy with Black unemployment, so need something...
--
Bobby
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Mike Painter
Jun 16, 2012, 5:56:45 PM6/16/12
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duke
Jun 17, 2012, 9:43:14 AM6/17/12
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:24:19 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:11:50 -0500, bobo fizmarkian
>On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:11:50 -0500, bobo fizmarkian
><bo...@fizmarkianbobo.com> wrote:
>
>>> But, the part that is not being reported is that Obama and the Welfare
>>> Pimps are trying hard to draw in black support for Obama, and that is
>>> exactly why Obama made the remark about if he had a son, he would look
>>> like Trayvon.
>>
>>Perhaps, Obama should say he's fascinated by this case.....
>>
>>Might get attention more on it, and less on his record, and current
>>situation of the US...
>
>The "Fascination" for the case is the red-necked, misguided Nazi Rifle
>
>>> But, the part that is not being reported is that Obama and the Welfare
>>> Pimps are trying hard to draw in black support for Obama, and that is
>>> exactly why Obama made the remark about if he had a son, he would look
>>> like Trayvon.
>>
>>Perhaps, Obama should say he's fascinated by this case.....
>>
>>Might get attention more on it, and less on his record, and current
>>situation of the US...
>
>Assoc.'s promotion of a loony gunlaw that allows shooting minorities
>as they see fit
Hey, yoogie, it's not the NRA running around holding travon parties and wearing
hoodies.
duke, American - American
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duke
Jun 18, 2012, 7:57:22 AM6/18/12
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:58:11 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:43:14 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>The "Fascination" for the case is the red-necked, misguided Nazi Rifle
>>>Assoc.'s promotion of a loony gunlaw that allows shooting minorities
>>>as they see fit
>>Hey, yoogie, it's not the NRA running around holding travon parties and wearing
>>hoodies.
>Last I heard the party they were having at Koresh's funeral barbecue
>hasn't broke up yet. Tears are still flowing over that NRA hero.
Sibil Koresh?
>On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:43:14 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>The "Fascination" for the case is the red-necked, misguided Nazi Rifle
>>>Assoc.'s promotion of a loony gunlaw that allows shooting minorities
>>>as they see fit
>>Hey, yoogie, it's not the NRA running around holding travon parties and wearing
>>hoodies.
>hasn't broke up yet. Tears are still flowing over that NRA hero.
Sibil Koresh?
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