Angels and Demons and the endscene : satan as an angel of light : origin of evil
u2 fan
Demons are fallen Angels ... In the beginning God created the universe, the
heavens and the earth.
We can conclude that Angels have freewill they can choose good or evil,
indeed they have chosen to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil
also.
What is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, is it irresistible ?
Is it possible for a being not to experience evil ? Ideally yes indeed, yet
when one know something is not good then one will not do it.
Take Cain and Able, we know Able was killed. IF Cain had no knowledge of
what was good or evil, how would he know that killing was evil ?
When God teaches us ( which this life is for ) what is good and what is not.
A simpler creature would not ask why when facing a command from God as "thou
shall not", it doesn't have the thought ability.
Angels and Demons though have existed for a long time, in that time we can
assume they have very advanced thoughts, Satan must have some very advanced
thoughts in order to deceive people.
Satan had the ability to deceive Adam and Eve. This ability to deceive is
dangerous.
2 Corth 11v14 Satan masquerades as an angel of light.
Let us take a typical cult deception, Joseph Smith presumed an angel
"Moroni" was good, when in fact it could well be a demon. Mohammed may have
not met Gabriel but a demon or in fact satan.
Bible tells us people will be deceived by demons Rev 16v14 demons lead
people to Armageddon , 1 Tim 4 in the latter times people will follow
teaching by demons.
There is multiple levels of reality, what is seen and what is unseen, Both
have effect on the whole reality.
When one looks over the past couple of millennium it would appear demons
have created a large number of cults.
WHY ?
WHY would satan create cults ?
What purpose ?
People can be influenced by demons, Satan is in fact saying to God, what God
creates Satan will destroy and Satan will use people to destroy people ( Rev
6v4 Red horse )
Let us concider the mission of Satan ...
When was Satan created ? Long time ago ? Aparently Satan was good once (
Isaiah 14 ) but went to the dark side.
What was that original thought or creation that created evil or that made
Satan goto sin ? The very first action of freewill !
The first time freewill existed, also at that very moment in time, the
choice to reject God existed.
This could be concidered highly advanced and beyond 99.99% people's
understanding but is amazingly simple.
There is God, and God creates freewill, the only way to create freewill is
to create something that exists that either is unaware of God and yet can
make choices, or for the first time in existance something that can think
sperately from God.
THIS thought PROCESS SEPERATE from GOD is the origin of evil.
1 Corth 15v28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made
subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
GOD MAYBE ALL IN ALL.
When God is in us all totally one could assume freewill will cease to exist
? But no ! Our minds will be transformed from the creation of the universe.
Evil will be wiped away and we will have the knowledge of God.
WOW !
Most people couldn't understand that simple verse, "So that GOD may be ALL
in ALL"
Imagine that Day ... everyone will be as God !
Our minds will have evil filtered out as a non-option.
Jesus was totally distraught when seperated from the Father on the Cross.
Mark 15v34 And at three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice,
"Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?"-which means, "My God, my God, why have you
forsaken me?"
Luke 24v45Then he opened their minds so they could understand the
Scriptures.
The Lord resolved all the negative options on the cross, he went and rescued
us from all the paths of negative destination, and guided us back.
The Lord ( if we let him ) will teach us what is GOOD and what is not GOOD.
Satan and his demons for some reason will not turn back, they take all
destructive paths, indeed Enoch implies demons taught men destructive
techniques.
Who knows if the Atomic Bomb was not a demonic invention. Sadly at the time
if america hadn't invented it then surely evil leaders would have.
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angels and demons in the endscene
We can see God authourises Satan a 7 year period of time to inflict maximum
damage, and satan is "unleashed", knowing this in advance what can we expect
!
Satan is highly advanced in deception and negative options, demons have
produced cults ( and we all know how hard it is to deprogram a cult member )
Demons and Satan will produce a irreversable sequence of events to produce a
cataclismic serise of war that results in a 1.5 billion death toll ( Rev
6v7,8 )
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what have the illuminati and freemason and bilderbergs and others got to do
with this end seuqence !
They have been decieved by highly advanced demons into thinking things will
work out alright in the end !
It would be futile for human minds to think they can be smarter than demons
! Demons have existed for 1000's of years.
Anything that does not follow Jesus is taking an alternative path ( that
leads to destruction )
Freewill is given by God, but there is only one path back to God, his Son
Jesus.
u2 fan
> 1 Corth 15v28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made
> subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in
> all.
>
> GOD MAYBE ALL IN ALL.
during the millennium this will be highly advantageous, to marry a female as
intelligent as God ! Imagine .. no more nagging ... and a female that
actually seeks to give a male pleasure rather than suffering.
I am pleased to know God has provided for us in advance 100% desirable
females rather than the collection on the earth currently that has been 99%
infected by satan.
u2 fan
The logic is why would satan want to kill ? To kill evil would be to
transfer evil to it's destiny, hence make it useless in the current
spiritual war. A solider not on the battlefield is not fighting nor
defeating the enemy.
It is logical there is spiritual warfare, a demon in hell is no use but to
mill around, a demon on earth can be a influence.
It is logical Rev 12 when satan gets kicked out of heaven will in fact be a
good time for satan ...
Satan is useless in heaven or spiritual realms since there is nothing to be
gained.
Hence we have the tribulation hour ... warfare on earth ( Red horse Rev
6v4 )
I doubt Satan will enter the reality of the earth like in arnies movie "end
of days", in one secen Satan kills of a kid by the proverbial bus, this is
illogical for satan.
Satan wants the greatest number of people to turn against God by all means
possible.
To kill a believer would be illogical for satan, satan would far rather
torture the believer and the believer give up that God cares ...
Satan's future war will leave 1.5billion dead, many people will not turn to
God but blame God and follow Satan.
Satan's objective is to create angry destructive people full of hate ( just
like satan )
Hatred in religion can be clearly seen in a certian cultic aspect of a
certain religion coming from mecca, indeed in saudi they have degree courses
in hatred !
Satan must be very pleased with developments around the world
1) Christianity and prayer is outlawed in american public places
2) Islamic terrorists are set to create WW3
3) Jews are being kicked out of the promised land to make palestine
AND the people in power do nothing, they are chained by political
correctness.
Indeed Satan is no doubt very pleased with progress, we have politicians who
can do nothing ( and HATRED is brewing in america to the point of civil
war )
All the signs of Matt 24 will happen
Satan is not a nice character, but soon much of the whole world will worship
the beast.
Logically Satan is flawed, to generate hate and destruction is negative and
destructive, the opposit of God.
Many visionaries have seen the future, indeed an ordinary person can read
Matt 24 and be dismayed about the future.
So the question is, is there hope ?
Indeed there is !
While remaining in this existance of good and evil, each person decides
their destiny, and the way they want to live.
The Lord is merciful, alas the further a person walks down the wrong path
the less they will be aware of the good path. Thankfully a hint of light is
enough to attract the person in darkness back on the right path. Alas many
cults shine false light. The path hence is narrow.
Al Smith
A distinction should be made between Satan and Lucifer. They are
usually presented as the same angel, but they are very different
in personality and purpose.
Satan exists to do evil for its own sake. He presides over hell
because he enjoys his work. Satan is the same as the Devil.
Lucifer is in rebellion against God. He doesn't do evil, he just
wants independence. He presides over hell as a punishment for his
independent thinking.
A Satanist is a fool. A Luciferian is wise.
u2 fan
> A Satanist is a fool. A Luciferian is wise.
Thanks Al, basically satanists don't think, luciferians are dangerously
smart ... alas Luciferians can't get away from Satanists when the day is
done ...
Al Smith
I agree, after Googling what's on the Net under these terms, that
the two schools are usually confounded with one another. That does
not mean that they are the same. A true Luciferian would know very
clearly that he is not a Satanist, and would understand what makes
him different from a Satanist.
JokingYou
"Al Smith" <inv...@address.com> wrote in message
news:S%dke.34958$Ph4.6...@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
Semantics! What about Beelzebubians?
Al Smith
>>>>> smart ... alas Luciferians can't get away from Satanists when the day is
>>>>> done ...
>>
>>>
>>> I agree, after Googling what's on the Net under these terms, that the two
>>> schools are usually confounded with one another. That does not mean that
>>> they are the same. A true Luciferian would know very clearly that he is
>>> not a Satanist, and would understand what makes him different from a
>>> Satanist.
>
>
> Semantics! What about Beelzebubians?
It's not semantics if you see that these two terms stand for two
different mythic beings, who have very different symbolic
associations. On the other hand, if you fail to perceive this
fact, and make the wrong assumption that the two names stand for
the same being, then it would be semantics.
JokingYou
It's not considered a failure to perceive when there is nothing to perceive.
It seems more like making a conclusion based upon evidence not present or
perhaps justifying ones actions by use of semantics. An example would be an
overweight person insisting they haven't strayed from their diet because the
candy bar they are eating is really a health bar. I guess it's how one
interprets or views the terms but they are one and the same from a Christian
biblical perspective.
Al Smith
>>>>>>>>> two schools are usually confounded with one another. That does not mean
>>>>>>>>> that they are the same. A true Luciferian would know very clearly that
>>>>>>>>> he is not a Satanist, and would understand what makes him different
>>>>>>>>> from a Satanist.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Semantics! What about Beelzebubians?
>>
>>>
>>> It's not semantics if you see that these two terms stand for two different
>>> mythic beings, who have very different symbolic associations. On the other
>>> hand, if you fail to perceive this fact, and make the wrong assumption
>>> that the two names stand for the same being, then it would be semantics.
>
>
> It's not considered a failure to perceive when there is nothing to perceive.
> It seems more like making a conclusion based upon evidence not present or
> perhaps justifying ones actions by use of semantics. An example would be an
> overweight person insisting they haven't strayed from their diet because the
> candy bar they are eating is really a health bar. I guess it's how one
> interprets or views the terms but they are one and the same from a Christian
> biblical perspective.
I agree, Satan and Lucifer are indeed the same being, from a
Christian point of view. However, the Christian viewpoint is based
on ignorance. All it takes is some reading of the myths and
stories concerning the spiritual beings who attach to these two
names, and you will soon see that they are not the same being.
Satan is the Adversary. Lucifer is the Light-Bearer. They could
hardly be further apart in meaning.
There is a Mystery here concerning the name of Lucifer, which was
noticed by Freemasons. How can the Devil also be the bearer of
light? Well, the answer is, he can't. Yes, the two names were
applied to the ruler of hell, *but* the conceptions that attach to
each name are totally different. So different, that they cannot be
said to be the same personality.
When enough people apply a set of beliefs to a mythical being,
that being come into independent existence on the astral level.
Since two completely different sets of beliefs have been applied
to the Devil (to use the general term for the ruler of hell), two
completely different entities have been created. If you invoke
Satan by conducting a religion in his name, you get Satan; but if
you invoke Lucifer, you get Lucifer, who is quite different from
Satan.
One way the Church has tried to reconcile this difference is to
say that before his fall the leader of the angelic rebellion was
named Lucifer and was beautiful and radiant; but after he was cast
down into the Pit, he became called Satan and his radiance was put
out and he was made dark and ugly. At least it is an attempt to
deal with the question.