SINS WILL FIND YOU
Frankie Lee
The notion that if you are dead, it is game over, the end of it, no
soul and no spirit, one had gone to oblivion as propose by the
unbelievers and the godless, namely Atheists-it was the most horrific
wickedness known to humankind.
This concept and beliefs are directly preached by the Devils, the
chief instigator and the cruelest hatred against humanity.
It is upon this lies and wicked concept, which were conceived by
Hitler, Mao, Stalin,Pol Pots and Kim Jong ill.
Why do you think the Devils concocted Evolution Theory? Humanity will
see the darkest periods of life once such evil notion is received and
acted upon.
Why should anyone not hesitate to kill the elderly, who had no use for
the contribution of society nor any advancement for society? What kind
of life should a handicap lives, nor is there any reason for their
existence? What about people whom we don’t like? Do they count?
The sick that are now languishing in sick bays will find it a solace
to end life, and euthanasia became the most logical and most humane
way to help end life.
People who are poor and suffers from depression and many anguish of
the minds, and many who live a poor lives would see suicide as a great
option. Go for it. Lives became cheap, and the fittest should
survive.
Genocide makes sense, and human degradation from good morals would
results; suddenly find they will new form of relative morality.
Policies of governments and people will make decision base on such
downright evil notions.
******Is this a true story or parable, or make up tales?
“The demons spoke these words to me: go and rob and kill your enemies.
If you succeed getting wealth and riches, fame and status, what a good
life in your lifetime.
Be selfish. Let’s say you fail to unscrupulously obtain wealth, go and
kill yourself, for that is the end of life. Why should you live a
miserable life on earth? Majority of human live miserably.
The popular idea that good deeds you had done to others; there is no
return, so what for to help fellow humans? Each man to himself. It is
a fool to sacrifice your time and life for others.
Human life is short.Eat,be merry and then go and die like a dog. Go
and enjoy all the sexual pleasures of life, fornicate and commit
adulteries, and remember just don’t caught, and who would have known
about it, as every of your secret deeds will remain secret forever?
Dwell on such thoughts, it is fun and reasonable and logical. Go for
the whore, she is beautiful and sexy.
Did you not know that every hundreds of murders, only a handful got
caught? Did you not know many, literally countless of people have
escaped the Laws of the land, and they got what they want; lies and
rampage of evils, and there is no cosmic justice?
Many peddlers of drugs became rich and powerful. Human continually are
bombarded with wicked thoughts and hatred, and bitterness in their
hearts, so why not just act out your desires?
You mean that your fellow human being have good and noble thoughts for
you? Are you belittling all my demonic activities working overtime in
their minds and souls?
You will never get punishment after life, because there is none and so
do what you want and get what you want, BY HOOK AND BY CROOK.
If your wrong deeds is caught, you will be punish here and now, so
just do anything except being get caught. If your conscience awaken
you to a God, just turn it off, or if it bothers you, just repeat
after me.”There is no God and no after life”.
Mask your conscience. Cheat, lie and do dishonest gains. You will not
go far in life if you do good and be an honest person. Our world
worships hypocrites and liars and promote self indulgence. Be part of
the new world concept of freedom to do everything your heart desires.
This is liberty. This is fresh airs.
It is frustrating for moral laws to hang over head, telling you that
this is wrong or this is right. If you do right, so what? Do wrong, so
what? Life is so fleeting.
You know you shall have sicknesses crawling all over your bodies. You
will watch your bodies deteriorate speedily, as time flies to your
face. If you don’t get pleasures now, then when?
You will get old. All your buddies will die, or you may go first. Your
old mothers and fathers are dying soon. Your spouse turn is coming
soon. Who shall remember you? Why cares for shame when you will not
remember anything after death?
The end of the world is coming, and this earth will be gone to
extinction, so why bother so much? Everything will be extinguished?”
There was a woman, still there of course, who began to sound preachy
as the Lord Jesus went to Hell with His servant to watch the scene.
A lesson for our world’s benefit.
“Lord, I thought that life is all there is. I enjoy pleasures and let
off my hairs. When I came here, this is the thousand regrets, and I
truly understood what is really meant by the word, ‘Hopelessness”.
This 24 hours a day sufferings from burn,7 days a week, and is this
anguish and tortures going on forever? God confirmed to her of the
fact that it is everlasting torments and sufferings, and she will be
roasting there forever.
Can I have a second chance? The answer came from God was, “No more
mercies and no more grace”. But I was being deceived, and I thought
that Christians are deceivers, but now I know who the real deceivers
are.
How come I am so blind not to see their good works, their
righteousness and their decency? I saw my friends are doing
Immoralities, and their words filled with vulgarities, and that should
have alerted me to discern, but I was just too blind!
Why? Why? Why? How come? How come? How come? Why like that? Why like
that? Why like that?
When good people gave me warnings then, I should have heeded! Now then
I realized the true meaning of ‘WARNINGS”.
I am so educated and yet I don’t even understand the meaning of
‘WARNING… UNTIL NOW”.
I ridicule at’warnings”.Now then I realized only Good people issue
warnings! Too late. All is lost and gone!
**********
Why did Jesus die for humanity’s sin? It is because of punishment, and
sufferings..oh how blind can you be? Without sins where are your
punishments? Jesus deal with our Sins. Of all problems of humanity,
Sins is the greatest problems, and none other.
By this truth alone, His death on the cross, helping us to live free
from it, which mean peace and love and happiness, instead of hate and
war--this is another evidence of God.
Which man does not look for a Heaven, a life of peace, joy and
holiness?
No sickness,pain,strife,loneliness,boredom,hatred,dull,evils and
dissatisfaction?
Jesus said,remember Jesus is the most respected man in all of human
history:I go to Heaven and prepare a Mansion for you.
Is this the word of a mad man, lunatic or is He God?
haiku jones
>
Why are there no succinct kooks?
Haiku Jones
haiku jones
I've asked you something about this very topic
twice now, Frankie. Let's see if you'll run away
for a third time, or if you're brave enough to
try to answer this time. Shall we? Good.
You said:
If God really isn't there or in existence, I would be the
first to queue up, to cheat, lie, kill, rape and plunder.
I don't believe in God, nor in any higher moral
authority keeping a watch over us.
And yet I do not cheat. I do not lie.
I do not kill, nor rape, nor plunder
I do not do anyof these things that
you confessed to us that you would
do if you didn't believe in god.
What does that tell you?
Haiku Jones
panam...@hotmail.com
snip
Jeez, it's like a spoken Chick tract, innit?
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!
Brian E. Clark
c089c7...@u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
leea...@yahoo.com says...
> Subject: SINS WILL FIND YOU
[snip 150+ lines]
If brevity is the soul of wit, Frankie, then you are the
death of the soul.
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
Brian E. Clark
@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, panam...@hotmail.com
says...
> Jeez, it's like a spoken Chick tract, innit?
Sure, but without the lightbulb-headed God, the effect just
isn't the same.
Uncle Vic
> There is more<SNIP>
My new Rider Magazine came in the mail today! I was just looking at the
pictures, and caught an article about a ride in Arizona that looks pretty
cool. I've been working too hard these last few months. Time to take a
week off with the guys and make some noise in the next state over!
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Christians are like Slinkys. They're boring, but they'll put a smile on
your face when you push them down the stairs.
Richo
> There is more to it after death.
You do not know this - you believe it because you *want* it to be
true.
I want to be 6' tall, handsome and rich - but alas *wanting* this to
be true doesnt make it true.
There is no mysterious life force - there is no immortal soul.
Your soul is very much mortal and temperorary and dependent on a
highly orgsanised mechanisms of your body working in harmony.
We know - for certain - that If you get a bad bump on the head or have
a stroke it can make you a different you.
Change your personality - wipe out your memories - make you a
different person.
How much more different will "you" be when "you" are dead?
> Not the end all or the all of life.
> The notion that if you are dead, it is game over, the end of it, no
> soul and no spirit, one had gone to oblivion as propose by the
> unbelievers and the godless, namely Atheists-it was the most horrific
> wickedness known to humankind.
>
It is not wickedness if its the truth.
With the truth you can deal with reality as it is - not as you wish it
to be.
> This concept and beliefs are directly preached by the Devils, the
> chief instigator and the cruelest hatred against humanity.
> It is upon this lies and wicked concept, which were conceived by
> Hitler, Mao, Stalin,Pol Pots and Kim Jong ill.
>
> Why do you think the Devils concocted Evolution Theory?
I do not think "the Devils" concocted the theory of evolution.
I think it was discovered by Charles Darwin and others from studying
animals and plants - by observing nature.
> Why should anyone not hesitate to kill the elderly, who had no use for
> the contribution of society nor any advancement for society?
It is important to be compassionate to others.
<snip>
> People who are poor and suffers from depression and many anguish of
> the minds, and many who live a poor lives would see suicide as a great
> option. Go for it. Lives became cheap, and the fittest should
> survive.
>
The theory of evolution says how things work in nature - it doent tell
us how we (concious thinking, feeling self aware beings) *should*
behave.
It is decriptive not prescriptive.
Thats is:
It says how things *are* it says nothing about how things *should be*.
Do you understand the difference?
> The popular idea that good deeds you had done to others; there is no
> return, so what for to help fellow humans? Each man to himself. It is
> a fool to sacrifice your time and life for others.
>
If you live like this you will have a poor life - if you are kind to
others then you will (more often than not) recieve kindness and caring
from others.
Compassion and empathy are virtues - most people want to be virtuous -
to seek the good and shrink from evil.
What kind of being do you want to be?
I want to be virtuous. (I am not perfect but I want to be honest,
kind, just ...)
<snip>
<snip - wicked are not punished>
Yes sometimes the wicked escape from justice.
It would be nice if there were some ultimate justice for the evil men
that died peacefully in their beds.
But just wishing something were so will not make it so.
Also - If you are good and kind then *usually* you will recieve love
and kindness in turn.
Love and peace are the best rewards for leading a good life.
Some people are good and kind and die impoverished in the ditch.
It would be good if there was some ultimate reward for them - but just
wishing something were so will not make it so.
Mark.
Smiler
> On Nov 24, 6:26 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>
> Why are there no succinct kooks?
>
They like the sound of their own voices, or of the voices in their head.
--
Smiler
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
All gods are bespoke. They're all made to
perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer
JTEM
Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[---snip rant---]
Here on this planet, the earth, we have these
people called "Christians," and these Christians,
see, they believe that nobody is free from sin.
No, wait, I'm serious.
These people, these Christians believe that all
of humanity -- every last human -- is mired in
sin, and the only way to redeem anyone was to
sacrifice what they believe was the very son of
God.
Yes, it sounds freaky but it's true. Because every
last human on the planet is a walking-talking bucket
of sin, no "Sacrifice" short of the very son of their
own God could cleanse people, redeem them.
Christians believe that absolutely NOBODY on this
earth is without sin, and that if anyone ever makes
it into this place called "Heaven" then it will only
because of the suffering & death of this Jesus guy.
Frankie Lee
***How come you are so silly?Since there is no God,according to
you,why don't go and rob?Hate your enemies,and u should get the best
out of life.Just don't get caught and do it "DISCREETLY" OR so to
speak,secretly.
Now which part,don't u get it?
Robibnikoff
"Frankie Lee" <leea...@yahoo.com> lied......
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & Belly Dancer Supreme
BAAWA Knight
#1557
Robibnikoff
Nosterill
Because - evidently - most atheists are inherently more moral than you
are.
Erwin Moller
> On Nov 25, 9:49 am, haiku jones <575jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 24, 6:26 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> There is more to it after death. Not the end all or the all of life.
>>> The notion that if you are dead, it is game over, the end of it, no
>>> soul and no spirit, one had gone to oblivion as propose by the
>>> unbelievers and the godless, namely Atheists-it was the most horrific
>>> wickedness known to humankind.
>>> This concept and beliefs are directly preached by the Devils, the
>>> chief instigator and the cruelest hatred against humanity.
>>> It is upon this lies and wicked concept, which were conceived by
>>> Hitler, Mao, Stalin,Pol Pots and Kim Jong ill.
>>> Why do you think the Devils concocted Evolution Theory? Humanity will
>>> see the darkest periods of life once such evil notion is received and
>>> acted upon.
>>> Why should anyone not hesitate to kill the elderly, who had no use for
>>> the contribution of society nor any advancement for society? What kind
>>> of life should a handicap lives, nor is there any reason for their
>>> The sick that are now languishing in sick bays will find it a solace
>>> to end life, and euthanasia became the most logical and most humane
>>> way to help end life.
>>> People who are poor and suffers from depression and many anguish of
>>> the minds, and many who live a poor lives would see suicide as a great
>>> option. Go for it. Lives became cheap, and the fittest should
>>> survive.
>>> Genocide makes sense, and human degradation from good morals would
>>> results; suddenly find they will new form of relative morality.
>>> Policies of governments and people will make decision base on such
>>> downright evil notions.
>>> ******Is this a true story or parable, or make up tales?
>>> If you succeed getting wealth and riches, fame and status, what a good
>>> life in your lifetime.
>>> kill yourself, for that is the end of life. Why should you live a
>>> miserable life on earth? Majority of human live miserably.
>>> The popular idea that good deeds you had done to others; there is no
>>> return, so what for to help fellow humans? Each man to himself. It is
>>> a fool to sacrifice your time and life for others.
>>> Human life is short.Eat,be merry and then go and die like a dog. Go
>>> and enjoy all the sexual pleasures of life, fornicate and commit
>>> about it, as every of your secret deeds will remain secret forever?
>>> Dwell on such thoughts, it is fun and reasonable and logical. Go for
>>> the whore, she is beautiful and sexy.
>>> Did you not know that every hundreds of murders, only a handful got
>>> caught? Did you not know many, literally countless of people have
>>> escaped the Laws of the land, and they got what they want; lies and
>>> rampage of evils, and there is no cosmic justice?
>>> Many peddlers of drugs became rich and powerful. Human continually are
>>> bombarded with wicked thoughts and hatred, and bitterness in their
>>> hearts, so why not just act out your desires?
>>> You mean that your fellow human being have good and noble thoughts for
>>> you? Are you belittling all my demonic activities working overtime in
>>> their minds and souls?
>>> You will never get punishment after life, because there is none and so
>>> do what you want and get what you want, BY HOOK AND BY CROOK.
>>> If your wrong deeds is caught, you will be punish here and now, so
>>> just do anything except being get caught. If your conscience awaken
>>> you to a God, just turn it off, or if it bothers you, just repeat
>>> Mask your conscience. Cheat, lie and do dishonest gains. You will not
>>> go far in life if you do good and be an honest person. Our world
>>> worships hypocrites and liars and promote self indulgence. Be part of
>>> the new world concept of freedom to do everything your heart desires.
>>> This is liberty. This is fresh airs.
>>> It is frustrating for moral laws to hang over head, telling you that
>>> this is wrong or this is right. If you do right, so what? Do wrong, so
>>> what? Life is so fleeting.
>>> You know you shall have sicknesses crawling all over your bodies. You
>>> will watch your bodies deteriorate speedily, as time flies to your
>>> You will get old. All your buddies will die, or you may go first. Your
>>> old mothers and fathers are dying soon. Your spouse turn is coming
>>> soon. Who shall remember you? Why cares for shame when you will not
>>> remember anything after death?
>>> The end of the world is coming, and this earth will be gone to
>>> There was a woman, still there of course, who began to sound preachy
>>> as the Lord Jesus went to Hell with His servant to watch the scene.
>>> �Lord, I thought that life is all there is. I enjoy pleasures and let
>>> off my hairs. When I came here, this is the thousand regrets, and I
>>> This 24 hours a day sufferings from burn,7 days a week, and is this
>>> anguish and tortures going on forever? God confirmed to her of the
>>> fact that it is everlasting torments and sufferings, and she will be
>>> roasting there forever.
>>> mercies and no more grace�. But I was being deceived, and I thought
>>> that Christians are deceivers, but now I know who the real deceivers
>>> are.
>>> How come I am so blind not to see their good works, their
>>> righteousness and their decency? I saw my friends are doing
>>> Immoralities, and their words filled with vulgarities, and that should
>>> have alerted me to discern, but I was just too blind!
>>> Why? Why? Why? How come? How come? How come? Why like that? Why like
>>> that? Why like that?
>>> When good people gave me warnings then, I should have heeded! Now then
>>> I am so educated and yet I don�t even understand the meaning of
>>> �WARNING� UNTIL NOW�.
>>> I ridicule at�warnings�.Now then I realized only Good people issue
>>> warnings! Too late. All is lost and gone!
>>> **********
That tells a lot about you Frankie.
Mainly that you are a dangerous psychopath.
But, luckily, not all humans are like you.
Some developed a sense of emphaty and love.
I mean the real version of love: not the "You'll burn in hell for
eternity if you durt others" kind.
It is s shame you must be threatened by God before you decide to do the
right thing.
Erwin Moller
--
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to
make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the
other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult."
-- C.A.R. Hoare
Erwin Moller
One more thing Frankie:
Who do you think your imaginairy God likes the most?
1) Frankie Lee who wants to hurt other people, but doesn't do that
because he is afraid of God.
or
2) An atheist/humanist who DOESN'T like to hurt people. Not out of fear,
but out of free will.
Take your pick.
You have so much to learn about morality.
The Cynic
> There is more to it after death. Not the end all or the all of life.
> The notion that if you are dead, it is game over, the end of it, no
> soul and no spirit, one had gone to oblivion as propose by the
> unbelievers and the godless, namely Atheists-it was the most horrific
> wickedness known to humankind.
>
> This concept and beliefs are directly preached by the Devils, the
> chief instigator and the cruelest hatred against humanity.
> It is upon this lies and wicked concept, which were conceived by
> Hitler, Mao, Stalin,Pol Pots and Kim Jong ill.
>
> Why do you think the Devils concocted Evolution Theory? Humanity will
> see the darkest periods of life once such evil notion is received and
> acted upon.
>
activities and blame atheism as the driving force for such
undesirable decisions, then I, using your logic and reasoning,
conclude that Christianity encourages crime, prostitution, drug taking
and murders because, to name a few, Ronnie Biggs was convicted with
robbery, Elizabeth Louise Petersen was charged with prostitution, and
Miguel Angel Caro-Quintero was accused being a drug war lord. Back
home we have Joachim Kang and Adrian Lim, among others. These are all
Christians. Aren't you aware that the Vatican prison houses mainly
Christians.
So Christianity is a bad, bad religion. Hee hee hee
raven1
<leea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Will you take your meds already? You're sounding more deranged with
every post.
raven1
<leea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I've asked you something about this very topic
>> twice now, Frankie. �Let's see if you'll run away
>> for a third time, or if you're brave enough to
>> try to answer this time. �Shall we? �Good.
>>
>> You said:
>>
>> � � � If God really isn't there or in existence, I would be the
>> � � �first to queue up, to cheat, lie, kill, rape and plunder.
>>
>> I don't believe in God, nor in any higher moral
>> authority keeping a watch over us.
>>
>> And yet I do not cheat. �I do not lie.
>> I do not kill, nor rape, nor plunder
>>
>> I do not do anyof these things that
>> you confessed to us that you would
>> do if you didn't believe in god.
>>
>> What does that tell you?
>>
>> Haiku Jones
>
>***How come you are so silly?Since there is no God,according to
>you,why don't go and rob?Hate your enemies,and u should get the best
>out of life.Just don't get caught and do it "DISCREETLY" OR so to
>speak,secretly.
>
>Now which part,don't u get it?
I get it perfectly: you're a sociopath, who is only kept in check by
your fear of "God". Nice of you to be so candid. Please get competent
psychiatric help before you harm yourself or others.
haiku jones
Why not? Because, apparently, I am a much more moral
person than you re. Not interested.
> Hate your enemies,
I don't have any "enemies". Do you? If so, what
did you do to manage that?
> and u should get the best
> out of life.
> Just don't get caught and do it "DISCREETLY" OR so to
> speak,secretly.
Get thee behind me, Frankie.
> Now which part,don't u get it?
The part where you think you have the
right to lecture someone who, as we both
have just shown, is clearly your moral
superior.
Haiku Jones
Uncle Vic
An-ti-ci-pa-ya-tion...
SkyEyes
> On Nov 24, 6:26 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Why are there no succinct kooks?
Because their nonsensical beliefs require them to supply tortured,
rambling explanations for their superstitions.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net
Uncle Vic
>
> ***How come you are so silly?Since there is no God,according to
> you,why don't go and rob?
That should tell you something, Wankie. It should tell you that nobody
needs your "god", morality already exists without it, and has existed since
long before man's creation of god.
That's "of", not "by".
SkyEyes
Because Haiku's a good person with a highly-developed moral sense and
plenty of empathy for other people. Unlike yourself, who would,
apparently, lay waste the earth if you didn't think your Big Sky Daddy
would punish you severely for it.
Do you not get it, Frankie? Haiku is good for goodness' sake, not
because he fears being punished. That makes him a better person than
you.
>Hate your enemies,and u should get the best
> out of life.
Where do you get this nonsense?
>Just don't get caught and do it "DISCREETLY" OR so to
> speak,secretly.
Well, that's what *you* would do, obviously; Haiku and the most of the
rest of the regulars on alt.atheism prefer to live our lives openly
and honestly.
> Now which part,don't u get it?
The part that makes you think your morals are superior to ours.
SkyEyes
> On Nov 24, 8:26 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> snip
>
> Jeez, it's like a spoken Chick tract, innit?
Indeed it is. Frankie-stein has mastered all the fundamentalists'
most ridiculous arguments - which is pretty much what a Jack Chick
tract is comprised of.
I suspect we are all engaged in that most fruitless of metaphorical
pursuits, trying to teach a pig to sing.
SkyEyes
> One fine day in alt.atheism, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > There is more<SNIP>
>
> My new Rider Magazine came in the mail today! I was just looking at the
> pictures, and caught an article about a ride in Arizona that looks pretty
> cool.
Oh, neat-o, Vic! Where in Arizona? Anywhere near Tucson?
Syd M.
The part where you justify your god belief, asshole.
We don't do those things because we have things called 'morals,' that
you and your religious brethren are conspicuously lacking.
PDW
Allah , your only god Allah , you are only allowed to have me as your only God , you are only authorised to have Allah as your only God .
Christopher A. Lee
wrote:
Jojo left his home in Tucson, Arizona
For some California grass...
Steve Knight
>There is more to it after death.
Something you can't prove. Just a superstitious statement making a
claim without evidence. And a cut and paste because you lack any real
intelligence to say anything in your own words.
You claim to be a christian yet you treat us like a Satan.
Constantly railing against us, spewing vile and hate, offending us in
any manner you choose without any regard to hurting us.
You are pushing hate, not love.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Enkidu
> You are pushing hate, not love.
Yeah, well, I've read the Bible, and if it's full of love and mercy,
those words don't mean the same thing to Christians as they do to the
rest of us. Perhaps that's where Orwell got the idea for Newspeak . . .
hate is love, vengence is mercy.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"Why should I allow that same God to tell me how to raise my kids, who had to drown His own?"
- Robert G. Ingersoll
Frankie Lee
** True.I don't have good morals,and was once an evil person.Ever
since I found the truth,I changed for good.
Uncle Vic
> On Nov 24, 8:49�pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
>> One fine day in alt.atheism, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > There is more<SNIP>
>>
>> My new Rider Magazine came in the mail today! I was just looking at
>> the pictures, and caught an article about a ride in Arizona that
>> looks pretty cool.
>
> Oh, neat-o, Vic! Where in Arizona? Anywhere near Tucson?
>
Yup! Between Phoenix & Tucson - actually a big figure-8 with Wickenburg
and Douglas at the apexes, with a little dipper into NM and the crossover
at Vail. What's the weather like around there in the Dec-Jan time-frame?
The route is mostly southerly, but looks like higher elevations.
The worst trip I ever took was a blast up to Lake Isabella, CA, then an
impromptu shot up CA Hwy 395 along the eastern slopes of the Sierra
Nevada, to Mammoth Lakes. This was in the weekend following Thanksgiving
one year. I ended up crossing the Mojave desert at nearly midnight on my
way home. My brother and I split up at the 178, taking him over the
Sierras to Bakersfield, then home to Fresno. I took the 14 across the
desert back to the LA area. His BMW touring bike showed 29 degrees when
we split up. I imagine I hit the low 20s by mid-desert. I wanted to
rent a motel room for the night in the city of Mojave, just to take a
nice long hot shower. Nowadays, when my wife mentions it's 45 degrees
out there, I reply, "Ahhh, toasty!" :-)
Hey, if this thing ever materializes, can a couple of smelly bikers stop
by? I promise to wear my "Old Guys Rule" T-shirt!
Uncle Vic
> ** True.I don't have good morals,and was once an evil person.Ever
> since I found the truth,I changed for good.
Why did it take the fear of some scary authority figure to change you? Why
couldn't you come to the realization that cooperation with society is
conducive to a working society yourself? Like I did, while I was growing
up? You've mentioned that if there was no god, you'd be back to what you
say now would be your old ways. IOW, your lack of morality is being held
in check. I hope you never come to the realization that there is no god...
Steve Knight
<leea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>** True.I don't have good morals,and was once an evil person.Ever
>since I found the truth,I changed for good.
How sad. You give up your strength to achieve change to a 'nothing'.
How cheap a thing to do. Reducing yourself to the level of shit and
giving all credit to a myth. But then, maybe it's a good thing for
you. Maybe it's the only thing that could help you.
I quit drinking for ten years and used any excuse I could think of
not to drink, and it worked. But you don't see me going around
insulting and condemning people because they drink. I worked on
myself, found my own strength and did what I had to do.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Nosterill
Maybe religion works to solve - or at least contain - your problems.
Not everyone has those same problems, but you simply assuming that we
do - and then berate us for declining to accept _your_ solution to
_your_ problems. That is not good behaviour.
The Cynic
I was never an evil person so there is no need for me to change.
So, by your statement you have condemned all those who have discovered
"truth" (whatever that means) as not having good morals and evil
persons before their conversion.
Hee hee hee
Robibnikoff
"Frankie Lee" <leea...@yahoo.com> wrote
** True.I don't have good morals,and was once an evil person.
Frankie, you're still an evil person.
The Chief Instigator
>
> "Frankie Lee" <leea...@yahoo.com> wrote
> ** True.I don't have good morals,and was once an evil person.
>
> Frankie, you're still an evil person.
...and that "quality" is almost invisible, compared to his idiocy.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 1, Hamilton 0 (November 25)
NEXT GAME: Friday, November 27 at Syracuse, 6:05
raven1
<leea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>** True.I don't have good morals,and was once an evil person.Ever
>since I found the truth,I changed for good.
That doesn't change the fact that by your own admission, you're a
sociopath who is only kept in check by your religious beliefs. Get
psychiatric help before we read about you shooting people in the
streets.
panam...@hotmail.com
> One fine day in alt.atheism, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 24, 8:49 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
> >> One fine day in alt.atheism, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > There is more<SNIP>
>
> >> My new Rider Magazine came in the mail today! I was just looking at
> >> the pictures, and caught an article about a ride in Arizona that
> >> looks pretty cool.
>
> > Oh, neat-o, Vic! Where in Arizona? Anywhere near Tucson?
>
> Yup! Between Phoenix & Tucson - actually a big figure-8 with Wickenburg
> and Douglas at the apexes, with a little dipper into NM and the crossover
> at Vail. What's the weather like around there in the Dec-Jan time-frame?
> The route is mostly southerly, but looks like higher elevations.
>
> The worst trip I ever took was a blast up to Lake Isabella, CA, then an
> impromptu shot up CA Hwy 395 along the eastern slopes of the Sierra
> Nevada, to Mammoth Lakes. This was in the weekend following Thanksgiving
> one year. I ended up crossing the Mojave desert at nearly midnight on my
> way home. My brother and I split up at the 178, taking him over the
> Sierras to Bakersfield, then home to Fresno. I took the 14 across the
> desert back to the LA area. His BMW touring bike showed 29 degrees when
> we split up. I imagine I hit the low 20s by mid-desert.
"..there is cold, and then there is cold on a motorcycle..."
Last month we had to take a detour around one of the 2-lanes washed
out in the flood, and a house on that route had about 25 old `70s
Honda CB750s in the yard. Damn shame the resident female says no
dragging anything else home until the Alfa Romeo's finished...
<grumble>
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!
Syd
If your behaviour here is an indication of how you've changed for the
'better,' then your haven't changed much.
PDW
Uncle Vic
> Last month we had to take a detour around one of the 2-lanes washed
> out in the flood, and a house on that route had about 25 old `70s
> Honda CB750s in the yard. Damn shame the resident female says no
> dragging anything else home until the Alfa Romeo's finished...
Wait until she's snoring...
That CB750 I bought has proven to be the best purchase I've ever made
(except for the house we're living in). I mean, for a (now) 17 year old
bike there's literally nothing wrong with it! I'll bet if you dragged two
of those home you could use the parts from both to build a top-notch scoot!
SkyEyes
> One fine day in alt.atheism, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 24, 8:49 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
> >> One fine day in alt.atheism, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > There is more<SNIP>
>
> >> My new Rider Magazine came in the mail today! I was just looking at
> >> the pictures, and caught an article about a ride in Arizona that
> >> looks pretty cool.
>
> > Oh, neat-o, Vic! Where in Arizona? Anywhere near Tucson?
>
> Yup! Between Phoenix & Tucson - actually a big figure-8 with Wickenburg
> and Douglas at the apexes, with a little dipper into NM and the crossover
> at Vail. What's the weather like around there in the Dec-Jan time-frame?
In Tucson, it's generally sunny and in the upper 60s/low 70s in Dec;
January can be the same...*or* it can be colder than a well-digger's
ass, and rainy. We have a mini-monsoon season in the winter, where it
will be cold, rainy and miserable for 2 weeks. No way to predict this
far out. This is an El Nino year, which tends to cause wet winters.
That's the south end of your route (Vail is actually a suburb of
Tucson).
Up near Wickenburg, it's gonna be *cold*. Bring your long-johns.
> The route is mostly southerly, but looks like higher elevations.
The higher elevations are liable to be snowy in December and January.
>
> The worst trip I ever took was a blast up to Lake Isabella, CA, then an
> impromptu shot up CA Hwy 395 along the eastern slopes of the Sierra
> Nevada, to Mammoth Lakes. This was in the weekend following Thanksgiving
> one year. I ended up crossing the Mojave desert at nearly midnight on my
> way home. My brother and I split up at the 178, taking him over the
> Sierras to Bakersfield, then home to Fresno. I took the 14 across the
> desert back to the LA area. His BMW touring bike showed 29 degrees when
> we split up. I imagine I hit the low 20s by mid-desert. I wanted to
> rent a motel room for the night in the city of Mojave, just to take a
> nice long hot shower. Nowadays, when my wife mentions it's 45 degrees
> out there, I reply, "Ahhh, toasty!" :-)
I spent a year out on the Mojave, in a little burg called
"Ridgecrest." (That year was the longest decade of my life.) It gets
damn frosty on the Mojave in the winter.
>
> Hey, if this thing ever materializes, can a couple of smelly bikers stop
> by? I promise to wear my "Old Guys Rule" T-shirt!
I'll go poke Cary Kittrell so he wakes up, and we'll all have a meat-
life meet-up! Would be neat to have a Southwestern Atheist Mini-
con!
Brenda
panam...@hotmail.com
> One fine day in alt.atheism, panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Last month we had to take a detour around one of the 2-lanes washed
> > out in the flood, and a house on that route had about 25 old `70s
> > Honda CB750s in the yard. Damn shame the resident female says no
> > dragging anything else home until the Alfa Romeo's finished...
>
> Wait until she's snoring...
ROFL!
> That CB750 I bought has proven to be the best purchase I've ever made
> (except for the house we're living in). I mean, for a (now) 17 year old
> bike there's literally nothing wrong with it! I'll bet if you dragged two
> of those home you could use the parts from both to build a top-notch scoot!
Yeah! They all look like the old 70s single-cams, but I ain't exactly
trying to be Wayne Rainey here. I always said I'd pick up another bike
if I moved back to the sticks, and since we're here, well..<g> I think
I'd go take the MSF course again, tho. I haven't been on a bike in
20yrs. I putted around the infield at Road Atlanta on an old racing
buddy's 600 last year, and almost laid it down. Talk about your `sins
finding you'..
Brian E. Clark
2g2000prl.googlegroups.com>, leea...@yahoo.com says...
> [...] Since there is no God,according to you,
> why don't go and rob?
First: My morality is not founded on avoiding eternal
punishment.
Second: Belief in God hardly stops people from robbing
other people.
* The CEOs who plundered the U.S. economy were,
most of them, theists.
* The right-wing Israelis who are this very minute
building new homes for themselves on other people's
lands are firm believers in God.
* The settlers who stole the lands of the Americas
from the native inhabitants were solidly Christian.
* The man who attempted to steal Iraq's oil, George
Dubya Bush, was elected in large part due to his
overt Christianity; his thieving, murderous actions
were enthusiastically supported by the most vocally
Christian segments of the U.S. population.
> Hate your enemies,and u should get the best
> out of life.
Another naive comment.
For those who have enemies, everyone hates his enemies. A
Christian may produce gushers of sweet talk about loving
his enemies, because it makes him seem noble and
enlightened (in his own eyes, at least). Then this same
loving person will guide an unmanned drone through the
hills of Afghanistan and kill fifty civilians at a wedding.
It's all a con. Christian leaders endlessly try to co-opt
the word "love" the way the military tries to co-opt the
word "honor", but in the hands of self-serving
manipulators, neither word retains its true meaning.
> Just don't get caught and do it "DISCREETLY" OR so to
> speak,secretly.
Your advice is that of a psychopath. Perhaps it is good
that your psychopathy is reined in by your religion, but
you must not imagine that everyone else functions
similarly.
> Now which part, don't u get it?
In light of your comments, I don't get how you're still
allowed to roam the streets.
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
Nomen Publicus
Is there *really* a group of christians for whom the fear of everlasting
damnation is the only reason they are moral and ethical? If this is true,
these people should be discovered, rounded up and held in asylums until they
learn to be real humans.
--
Atheist: One who denies, or disbelieves in, the existence of gods.
SkyEyes
wrote:
> Brian E. Clark <brianecl...@address.invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <faeb04cc-d9dc-4524-95cf-dce56c0ab4b2@
Yeah, pretty much all fundagelicals describe themselves that way. I
don't know how many of them really *believe* it, but they'll all claim
they're like that. Furthermore, they think it's normal for a human to
feel that way.
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