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Sep 28, 2012, 10:44:21 PM9/28/12
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The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
dispense these pills.









http://www.rrstar.com/updates/x1217099510/Illinois-court-backs-pharmacists-on-morning-after-pill









CHICAGO — An Illinois appeals court has ruled in favor of two
pharmacists who objected to having to provide emergency contraception on
religious grounds, setting a precedent their lawyer hopes will protect
others from judicial or state sanctions.

In a seven-year legal campaign, Luke VanderBleek and Glenn Kosirog set
out to shield their pharmacies from a 2005 executive order issued by
then-Gov. Rod Blagojevich requiring all pharmacists to fill
prescriptions for the so-called morning-after pill.

In a lawsuit, they argued that they were protected by the Illinois
Health Care Right of Conscience Act, which says health professionals
cannot be punished if they refuse to offer a service because of their
conscientious convictions. A circuit court originally dismissed their
claim, but the state Supreme Court ruled in 2008 that a court must hear it.

Friday’s ruling affirmed an injunction granted by a lower court that
found that state law “protects the pharmacists’ decisions not to
dispense emergency contraceptives due to their conscience.”











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J Young
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http://www.americandecency.org/








W.T.S.

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Sep 29, 2012, 1:03:35 AM9/29/12
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In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>
> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
> murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
> dispense these pills.
Bull shit! These pharmacists should be put out of business. The next
thing you know, they'll be refusing to give out cancer medications or
any other medication some sick, degenerate religious filth objects to.
We must all vote for President Obama, to make sure we have a Supreme
court that will understand the need for abortion on demand!
>

For the full truth, follow the links below:

Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4

Jeanne Douglas

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Sep 29, 2012, 1:51:40 AM9/29/12
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In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
wrote:

> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
> murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
> dispense these pills.


Or, more sanely, if a person refuses to do the job they were hired for,
they need to find other work.

--
JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

Kelsey Bjarnason

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Sep 29, 2012, 2:32:58 AM9/29/12
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:44:21 -0700, J wrote:

> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
> murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
> dispense these pills.

They were hired to dispense meds; if they're unable or unwilling to do
so, let 'em go dig ditches for a living.

•R.Measures

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Sep 29, 2012, 5:39:11 AM9/29/12
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In article
<hlwdjsd2-3D94C6...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu>, Jeanne
Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> > thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
> > murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
> > dispense these pills.
>
>
> Or, more sanely, if a person refuses to do the job they were hired for,
> they need to find other work.

• Indeed. We used to have a TBRC at the local Costco pharmacy who would
hassle girls about Plan B - but now he's gone.

duke

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Sep 29, 2012, 5:49:44 AM9/29/12
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>>
>> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
>> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
>> murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
>> dispense these pills.
>Bull shit! These pharmacists should be put out of business.

The morning after pill is a murder pill.

The dukester, American - American
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•R.Measures

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Sep 29, 2012, 7:04:33 AM9/29/12
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In article <71hd689pjdnbd1q23...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
> >>
> >> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> >> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
> >> murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
> >> dispense these pills.
> >Bull shit! These pharmacists should be put out of business.
>
> The morning after pill is a murder pill.
>
• According to "God's Holy Church", condoms are a diabolical device used
to murder the innocent.

Mitchell Holman

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Sep 29, 2012, 8:34:16 AM9/29/12
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J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in news:602crf....@news.alt.net:

>
> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory
> to murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing
> to dispense these pills.
>


So you approve of shop owners being forced to
retain people who refuse to do their jobs.

An odd position for a conservative to take, no?





Galen Hekhuis

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Sep 29, 2012, 8:53:02 AM9/29/12
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:44:21 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:

>
>The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
>thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
>murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
>dispense these pills.

[snip]

How demonstrable does this belief have to be? Back during the days
of the draft you didn't get conscientious objector status simply by
claiming your religion was opposed to killing, you had to prove
additional personal conviction as well, and you couldn't oppose just a
particular war or even a cause for going to war, you had to oppose all
wars regardless of the reasons.

Dino

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Sep 29, 2012, 9:54:07 AM9/29/12
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On Sep 29, 1:04 am, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> In article <602crf.9vv.1...@news.alt.net>, Jerk-L...@Liar.com says...
>
> > The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> > thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
> > murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
> > dispense these pills.
>
> Bull shit!  These pharmacists should be put out of business.  ...

But they are not, and you can stop crying about it.
You are trying to control what others do.

Dino

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Sep 29, 2012, 9:54:40 AM9/29/12
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Obviously they don't consider the morning after pill a "medication".

Dino

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Sep 29, 2012, 9:55:39 AM9/29/12
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On Sep 29, 8:34 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote innews:602crf....@news.alt.net:
It's ironic, how you pro-idiots, claim people on the pro-life side try
to
control what women do with their bodies.
But yet, here you are supporting an attempt to control what two
pharmacist value
personally.

Kenny McCormack

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Sep 29, 2012, 10:00:46 AM9/29/12
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Imagine being a defense contractor and not wanting to make devices whose
sole purpose is to kill people (*). Wonder how long that would last...

(*) Yes, actual, living, breathing, born people.

--
The motto of the GOP "base": You can't be a billionaire, but at least you
can vote like one.

Kenny McCormack

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Sep 29, 2012, 10:03:54 AM9/29/12
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In article <r-2909120...@10.0.1.3>, R.Measures <r...@somis.org> wrote:
As I've pointed out so many times, *anything* that reduces the number of
born children (read "fresh young meat") is pretty much viewed the same by
the Churches.

--
Just for a change of pace, this sig is *not* an obscure reference to
comp.lang.c...

Mitchell Holman

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Sep 29, 2012, 10:21:46 AM9/29/12
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Dino <what...@homemail.com> wrote in news:c1b862d3-964a-463b-a64c-
2f4f91...@o8g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
Evasion noted.

Does an employer have a legal duty to retain workers
who refuse to do their jobs?








Mitchell Holman

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Sep 29, 2012, 10:23:36 AM9/29/12
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Dino <what...@homemail.com> wrote in
news:23684e43-cd75-4c74...@n9g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
Who cares what they "consider"?

Their job is to fill prescriptions. If they
cannot do that why do they want to be a pharmacist?





Syd M.

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Sep 29, 2012, 10:34:01 AM9/29/12
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On Sep 28, 10:44 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
> murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
> dispense these pills.
>
>

So, you support people not doing their jobs.
If they have a problem dispencing these things, they need to find
another kind of work.
Maybe something along the lines of "Do you want fries with that?"

Syd M.

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Sep 29, 2012, 10:34:27 AM9/29/12
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On Sep 29, 5:49 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >In article <602crf.9vv.1...@news.alt.net>, Jerk-L...@Liar.com says...
>
> >> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> >> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
> >> murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
> >> dispense these pills.
> >Bull shit!  These pharmacists should be put out of business.
>
> The morning after pill is a murder pill.
>
>

Stop lying.

Syd M.

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Sep 29, 2012, 10:34:59 AM9/29/12
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No that continues to be YOU.

Syd M.

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Sep 29, 2012, 10:35:35 AM9/29/12
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On Sep 29, 9:54 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
Too bad for them that the proffesion does.
And they are wrong, and should find some other type of work.

Syd M.

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Sep 29, 2012, 10:36:15 AM9/29/12
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If they refuse to do their job, they should not be in that job.

Dino

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Sep 29, 2012, 10:52:14 AM9/29/12
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You still have a claim to back up from another discussion that you
ducked out on.

And, now you are making another claim.
I have not tried to control anyone, but...since you want to jump
in...back up your claim.

Dino

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Sep 29, 2012, 10:54:39 AM9/29/12
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On Sep 29, 10:21 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote in news:c1b862d3-964a-463b-a64c-
> 2f4f91d5b...@o8g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 29, 8:34 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >> J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote innews:602crf....@news.alt.net:
>
> >> > The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> >> > thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory
> >> > to murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing
> >> > to dispense these pills.
>
> >> So you approve of shop owners being forced to
> >> retain people who refuse to do their jobs.
>
> >> An odd position for a conservative to take, no?
>
> > It's ironic, how you pro-idiots, claim people on the pro-life side try
> > to
> > control what women do with their bodies.
> > But yet, here you are supporting an attempt to control what two
> > pharmacist value
> > personally.
>
>    Evasion noted.

What evasion?
Is the morning after pill a doctor's prescription?

Answer: No

So what obligation did these two pharmacist have?

Answer: They did not have one.


>
>    Does an employer have a legal duty to retain workers
> who refuse to do their jobs?

Nope
But obviously the courts agreed, these two pharmacist did not have
any obligation.

So, now what are you going to do?

You pro-idiots are such hypocrites.
You whine claiming that pro-life people want to control what women do
with their bodies.
These two pharmacist made a moral decision to not sell something.
Regardless of what their employer did, they made a "choice".
And yet, you think that they should be "FORCED" to do something
against their will.




Dino

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Sep 29, 2012, 10:55:02 AM9/29/12
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Obviously in this case, the courts say...

You're wrong.

Dino

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Sep 29, 2012, 10:56:30 AM9/29/12
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On Sep 29, 10:23 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote innews:23684e43-cd75-4c74...@n9g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Sep 29, 2:32 am, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:44:21 -0700, J wrote:
> >> > The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> >> > thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an
> >> > accessory t
> > o
> >> > murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing
> >> > to dispense these pills.
>
> >> They were hired to dispense meds; if they're unable or unwilling to
> >> do so, let 'em go dig ditches for a living.
>
> > Obviously they don't consider the morning after pill a "medication".
>
>     Who cares what they "consider"?

Wow, and yet you will scream about women having a choice, what they
"consider"
in regards to having an abortion.

What hypocrisy!!!!



>
>     Their job is to fill prescriptions.

Oh? Where is the doctors order to get the morning after pill?

Mitchell Holman

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Sep 29, 2012, 11:28:05 AM9/29/12
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Dino <what...@homemail.com> wrote in
news:5a0d15e7-889b-485e...@r7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
What obligation does the store have to
retain someone who refuses to do their job?


>
>
>>
>>    Does an employer have a legal duty to retain workers
>> who refuse to do their jobs?
>
> Nope
> But obviously the courts agreed, these two pharmacist did not have
> any obligation.


What obligation does the store have to
retain someone who refuses to do their job?







elizabeth

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Sep 29, 2012, 1:11:35 PM9/29/12
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On Sep 28, 7:44 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
> murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
> dispense these pills.

Hmmmm .. . so if a Christian Scientist pharmacist insists you pray, if
a Scientologist does their voodoothattheydoodoo . ...that is
acceptable to you as well?

And since abortion has never been, in the history of the world,
murder, in any legal code or under common law, those pharmacists
clearly know nothing of the law. How about a vegan butcher who feels
meat is murder making you eat tofu patties?

harry k

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Sep 29, 2012, 1:39:55 PM9/29/12
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So refusing to sell something their employer has for sale is just
fine with you? Think it is just fine for the employer?

Harry K

elizabeth

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Sep 29, 2012, 2:04:24 PM9/29/12
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WEll, our pal Robert Heishman did that to the Delaware DoC . ...

elizabeth

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Sep 29, 2012, 2:10:16 PM9/29/12
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On Sep 29, 8:28 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> retain someone who refuses to do their job?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

He;s confused at best.
He doesn't get the difference between a prescription, with a doctor's
Rx and OTC drugs, which the druggist does not have to sell. They are
ethically and legally required to fill the doctor's orders, as a
pharmacist is not an MD and has no business second guessing them,
although the pharaacist is free to report any MD that is
"misprescribing" medication for any reason. But since the drug is
legal, they can't use that method./

Uirgil

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Sep 29, 2012, 4:08:07 PM9/29/12
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In article <71hd689pjdnbd1q23...@4ax.com>,
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
> >>
> >> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> >> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
> >> murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
> >> dispense these pills.
> >Bull shit! These pharmacists should be put out of business.
>
> The morning after pill is a murder pill.

Only for Catholics. but for them, so are all methods of preventing
pregnancy except abstinence.

To attempt to impose those restrictions on any non-catholics in the US
is a violation of the US Constitution.

It would be perfectly legal to publicly publish the names of
pharmacists, and their pharmacies, who refuse to dispense the morning
after pill and publicly to urge a boycott of them.

W.T.S.

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Sep 29, 2012, 4:27:42 PM9/29/12
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In article <0af48b8d-83b0-4bbd-8921-
b4b39f...@a11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, what...@homemail.com
says...
>
> On Sep 29, 1:04 am, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > In article <602crf.9vv.1...@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com
> >
> > > The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> > > thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
> > > murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
> > > dispense these pills.
> >
> > Bull shit!  These pharmacists should be put out of business.  ...
>
> But they are not, and you can stop crying about it.
> You are trying to control what others do.
Yet you don't object to the pharmacists trying to control the body and
actions of the women!
>
See the links below to learn the real truth:
>

Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4

W.T.S.

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Sep 29, 2012, 4:29:23 PM9/29/12
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In article <23684e43-cd75-4c74-8ef8-0c5a1d310e26
@n9g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, what...@homemail.com says...
And yet it is a medication. And if a pharmacist doesn't know what a
medication is, he should be put out of business!!!
>
For the real truth, see the links below:

W.T.S.

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Sep 29, 2012, 4:41:54 PM9/29/12
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In article <e4760c91-2463-4e53-8ea2-
81fb1b...@a7g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, what...@homemail.com says...
> On Sep 29, 10:23 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote innews:23684e43-cd75-4c74...@n9g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
> >
> > > On Sep 29, 2:32 am, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:44:21 -0700, J wrote:
> > >> > The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> > >> > thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an
> > >> > accessory t
> > > o
> > >> > murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing
> > >> > to dispense these pills.
> >
> > >> They were hired to dispense meds; if they're unable or unwilling to
> > >> do so, let 'em go dig ditches for a living.
> >
> > > Obviously they don't consider the morning after pill a "medication".
> >
> >     Who cares what they "consider"?
>
> Wow, and yet you will scream about women having a choice, what they
> "consider"
> in regards to having an abortion.
>
> What hypocrisy!!!!
Bull shit! The woman isn't being paid or providing a public service.
>
> >     Their job is to fill prescriptions.
>
> Oh? Where is the doctors order to get the morning after pill?
Always there, its a blander
> If they
> cannot do that why do they want to be a pharmacist?
It's a profitable business.

Syd M.

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Sep 29, 2012, 5:41:01 PM9/29/12
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Oh, stop lying.
You are advocating forcing a woman to carry a fetus to turn wether she
wants to or not.
That is trying to control someone.

Syd M.

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Sep 29, 2012, 5:41:19 PM9/29/12
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No.
The court is wrong,

W.T.S.

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Sep 29, 2012, 6:24:17 PM9/29/12
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In article <c1b862d3-964a-463b-a64c-2f4f91d5be74
@o8g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, what...@homemail.com says...
> On Sep 29, 8:34 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote innews:602crf....@news.alt.net:
> >
> > > The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> > > thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory
> > > to murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing
> > > to dispense these pills.
> >
> >      So you approve of shop owners being forced to
> > retain people who refuse to do their jobs.
> >
> >      An odd position for a conservative to take, no?
>
> It's ironic, how you pro-idiots, claim people on the pro-life side try
> to
> control what women do with their bodies.
> But yet, here you are supporting an attempt to control what two
> pharmacist value
> personally.
Abortion comes first. Screw the rights of the pharmacist!

W.T.S.

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Sep 29, 2012, 6:26:16 PM9/29/12
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In article <36b708cd-e4df-45eb-bc55-
29031b...@w3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, what...@homemail.com says...
> On Sep 29, 10:36 am, "Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 29, 9:55 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sep 29, 8:34 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote innews:602crf....@news.alt.net
> >
> > > > > The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> > > > > thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory
> > > > > to murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing
> > > > > to dispense these pills.
> >
> > > >      So you approve of shop owners being forced to
> > > > retain people who refuse to do their jobs.
> >
> > > >      An odd position for a conservative to take, no?
> >
> > > It's ironic, how you pro-idiots, claim people on the pro-life side try
> > > to
> > > control what women do with their bodies.
> > > But yet, here you are supporting an attempt to control what two
> > > pharmacist value
> > > personally.
> >
> > If they refuse to do their job, they should not be in that job.
>
> Obviously in this case, the courts say...
>
> You're wrong.
Then boycott the pharmacist until the law is changed. Good thing the
Doctor isn't against blood transfusion, we'd have a real problem in the
case of accidents.

W.T.S.

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In article <5a0d15e7-889b-485e-a7b9-6b0140009742
@r7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, what...@homemail.com says...
> On Sep 29, 10:21 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote in news:c1b862d3-964a-463b-a64c-
> > 2f4f91d5b...@o8g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
> >
> > > On Sep 29, 8:34 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > >> J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote innews:602crf....@news.alt.net:
> >
> > >> > The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> > >> > thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory
> > >> > to murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing
> > >> > to dispense these pills.
> >
> > >> So you approve of shop owners being forced to
> > >> retain people who refuse to do their jobs.
> >
> > >> An odd position for a conservative to take, no?
> >
> > > It's ironic, how you pro-idiots, claim people on the pro-life side try
> > > to
> > > control what women do with their bodies.
> > > But yet, here you are supporting an attempt to control what two
> > > pharmacist value
> > > personally.
> >
> >    Evasion noted.
>
> What evasion?
> Is the morning after pill a doctor's prescription?
>
> Answer: No
>
> So what obligation did these two pharmacist have?
>
> Answer: They did not have one.
They have a moral obligation to help rid the world of fetus filth!
>
> >    Does an employer have a legal duty to retain workers
> > who refuse to do their jobs?
>
> Nope
> But obviously the courts agreed, these two pharmacist did not have
> any obligation.
>
> So, now what are you going to do?
Appeal to the Supreme Court. Vote the Republicans out of office.
Boycott the pharmacists.
>
> You pro-idiots are such hypocrites.
> You whine claiming that pro-life people want to control what women do
> with their bodies.
> These two pharmacist made a moral decision to not sell something.
> Regardless of what their employer did, they made a "choice".
> And yet, you think that they should be "FORCED" to do something
> against their will.
In this case, forcing the pharmacists is justified! We have a moral
duty to rid the world of fetus filth!!!

Patrick

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"Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote
> It would be perfectly legal to publicly publish the names of
> pharmacists, and their pharmacies, who refuse to dispense the morning
> after pill and publicly to urge a boycott of them.

Yeah, how did that work out for you fags and Chick-fil-A?


Patrick

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"Syd M." <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote
\\
Oh, stop lying.
You are advocating forcing a woman to carry a fetus to turn wether she
wants to or not.
That is trying to control someone.

+ We do it all the time, sid.
+ We force people to have ID cards in order to drive, fly, or see an R rated
movie.
+ We force fags to stay in their closet when they demand equal rights.
+ We demand prisoners follow rules when moving around in jail.
+ Is that why you keep getting your ass whupped?


W.T.S.

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In article <2TL9s.3$UR...@fe50.iad>, PBARK...@r.com says...
I have a feeling anti-choice pharmacists wouldn't like it known they are
anti-choice and forced birther. They should be required to post a sign
that they're woman haters and pro-liars and see how they do.

Syd M.

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On Sep 29, 7:57 pm, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> "Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote
Nope.
You have done no such thing, asshole.
'Queers' are not going to stay in their closets just for you. They
WILL have their rights, wether you like it or not.
Oh, and you are not going to force women to do your bidding, either.
Deal with it, asshole.

Dino

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That's a lie.

> That is trying to control someone.

Still waiting for you to prove that an opinion is the same thing as
taking a action.

No, I do NOT advocate forcing a woman to carry a fetus.
That's a fact.

A person can support the choice for life and STILL not oppose the
choice to abort.

Dino

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Then I suggest you challenge the court, and see how far you get.
Let me know, so I can get front row seats.

Kelsey Bjarnason

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On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 06:54:40 -0700, Dino wrote:

> On Sep 29, 2:32 am, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:44:21 -0700, J wrote:
>> > The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
>> > thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory
>> > to murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by
>> > refusing to dispense these pills.
>>
>> They were hired to dispense meds; if they're unable or unwilling to do
>> so, let 'em go dig ditches for a living.
>
> Obviously they don't consider the morning after pill a "medication".

Then they're incompetent and should not be allowed to be in the job
they're in. So we're back to having these morons off digging ditches,
leaving pharmacies to be staffed by actual pharmacists.

Aside from not actually having yet given these assholes the boot, I don't
see the problem.

Kelsey Bjarnason

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On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 06:55:39 -0700, Dino wrote:

> On Sep 29, 8:34 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>> J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote innews:602crf....@news.alt.net:
>>
>>
>>
>> > The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
>> > thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory
>> > to murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by
>> > refusing to dispense these pills.
>>
>>      So you approve of shop owners being forced to
>> retain people who refuse to do their jobs.
>>
>>      An odd position for a conservative to take, no?
>
> It's ironic, how you pro-idiots, claim people on the pro-life side try
> to control what women do with their bodies.
> But yet, here you are supporting an attempt to control what two
> pharmacist value personally.

Not too bright, are you? Here, let's explain it in simple terms even you
can understand:

As a pharmacist, your job is to dispense medications. If you can't or
won't do that, there are plenty of other jobs, so feel free to do one of
*those* jobs, ones which don't require you to do things that offend your
conscience. Such as digging ditches.

Or choose to stay on as a pharmacist, if you prefer, but in that case *do
the fucking job*. Your choice. We're all for you having the choice. Do
the job or get the fuck out. Whichever.

Message has been deleted

duke

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On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 04:04:33 -0700, r...@somis.org (•R.Measures) wrote:

>In article <71hd689pjdnbd1q23...@4ax.com>, duke
><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>> >>
>> >> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
>> >> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
>> >> murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
>> >> dispense these pills.
>> >Bull shit! These pharmacists should be put out of business.
>>
>> The morning after pill is a murder pill.
>>
>• According to "God's Holy Church", condoms are a diabolical device used
>to murder the innocent.

Un, noooooooo. It prevents natural life. No murder involved.

The dukester, American - American
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A vote for obama is a vote for the end of
democracy in America as we know it. Let the
rolling thunder guide your decision at the
ballot box to put an end to Imperial Obama.
May God bless America.
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duke

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On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 14:03:54 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
McCormack) wrote:

>In article <r-2909120...@10.0.1.3>, R.Measures <r...@somis.org> wrote:
>>In article <71hd689pjdnbd1q23...@4ax.com>, duke
>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>>> >>
>>> >> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
>>> >> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
>>> >> murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
>>> >> dispense these pills.
>>> >Bull shit! These pharmacists should be put out of business.
>>>
>>> The morning after pill is a murder pill.
>>>
>>• According to "God's Holy Church", condoms are a diabolical device used
>>to murder the innocent.

>As I've pointed out so many times, *anything* that reduces the number of
>born children (read "fresh young meat") is pretty much viewed the same by
>the Churches.

Are you still on the prowl for young meat?

duke

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On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 14:08:07 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:

>In article <71hd689pjdnbd1q23...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>> >>
>> >> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
>> >> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
>> >> murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
>> >> dispense these pills.
>> >Bull shit! These pharmacists should be put out of business.
>>
>> The morning after pill is a murder pill.
>
>Only for Catholics. but for them, so are all methods of preventing
>pregnancy except abstinence.
>
>To attempt to impose those restrictions on any non-catholics in the US
>is a violation of the US Constitution.

?? When has that been an issue?

>It would be perfectly legal to publicly publish the names of
>pharmacists, and their pharmacies, who refuse to dispense the morning
>after pill and publicly to urge a boycott of them.

I, and millions of Christians, would love it after immediately transferring our
prescriptions to the pharmacy that doesn't promote sins.

You know, it's a potential murder thing.

Patrick

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"Syd M." <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:83e82c1f-4eb3-45e3...@o7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
------------

+ I deal with it every day. I have to bite my lip every time I see
an injustice, or a limp wrist fag, or slut demanding me pay for her
excesses and sins. I deal with you too, ass-wipe. However, I
do get comfort in the fact that most people on earth are decent
law abiding, community oriented, God fearing citizens. It is
merely those of you who are the ass-wipes who demand the
attention, demand the "equal rights to be ass holes, and demand
me pay for their sinful lifestyles - that brings me pause.


Patrick

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Sep 30, 2012, 9:40:14 AM9/30/12
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"W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote
> I have a feeling anti-choice pharmacists wouldn't like it known they are
> anti-choice and forced birther. They should be required to post a sign
> that they're woman haters and pro-liars and see how they do.

BS.
Chick fil A doesn't post signs.


•R.Measures

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Sep 30, 2012, 4:46:20 PM9/30/12
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In article <qaag68pu64gnr5bop...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 04:04:33 -0700, r...@somis.org (•R.Measures) wrote:
>
> >In article <71hd689pjdnbd1q23...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
> >> >>
> >> >> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> >> >> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an
accessory to
> >> >> murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
> >> >> dispense these pills.
> >> >Bull shit! These pharmacists should be put out of business.
> >>
> >> The morning after pill is a murder pill.
> >>
> >• According to "God's Holy Church", condoms are a diabolical device used
> >to murder the innocent.
>
> Un, noooooooo. It prevents natural life. No murder involved.
>
• The result is the same as murder in the minds of TBRCs.

duke

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Nope, two entirely different things with the same unfortunate turnout - bad.

Martin

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On 29/09/2012 18:39, harry k wrote:
> On Sep 29, 7:54 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 29, 10:21 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:

>> You pro-idiots are such hypocrites.
>> You whine claiming that pro-life people want to control what women do
>> with their bodies.
>> These two pharmacist made a moral decision to not sell something.
>> Regardless of what their employer did, they made a "choice".
>> And yet, you think that they should be "FORCED" to do something
>> against their will.
>
> So refusing to sell something their employer has for sale is just
> fine with you? Think it is just fine for the employer?

It's fine until it's a muslim shop-worker who refuses to sell him his
bacon for sunday breakfast and chemical cider he drinks every night.

duke

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On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 11:10:16 -0700 (PDT), elizabeth <elizabet...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sep 29, 8:28 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>> Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote innews:5a0d15e7-889b-485e...@r7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Sep 29, 10:21 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>> >> Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote in news:c1b862d3-964a-463b-a64c-
>> >> 2f4f91d5b...@o8g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> > On Sep 29, 8:34 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >> J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote innews:602crf....@news.alt.net:
>>
>> >> >> > The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone
>> >> >> > else thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an
>> >> >> > accessor
>> > y
>> >> >> > to murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by
>> >> >> > refusi
>> > ng
>> >> >> > to dispense these pills.
>>
>> >> >> So you approve of shop owners being forced to
>> >> >> retain people who refuse to do their jobs.
>>
>> >> >> An odd position for a conservative to take, no?
>>
>> >> > It's ironic, how you pro-idiots, claim people on the pro-life side
>> >> > try to
>> >> > control what women do with their bodies.
>> >> > But yet, here you are supporting an attempt to control what two
>> >> > pharmacist value
>> >> > personally.
>>
>> >> Evasion noted.
>>
>> > What evasion?
>> > Is the morning after pill a doctor's prescription?
>>
>> > Answer: No
>>
>> > So what obligation did these two pharmacist have?
>>
>> > Answer: They did not have one.
>>
>>     What obligation does the store have to
>> retain someone who refuses to do their job?
>>
>>
>>
>> >> Does an employer have a legal duty to retain workers
>> >> who refuse to do their jobs?
>>
>> > Nope
>> > But obviously the courts agreed, these two pharmacist did not have
>> > any obligation.
>>
>>     What obligation does the store have to
>> retain someone who refuses to do their job?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>He;s confused at best.
>He doesn't get the difference between a prescription, with a doctor's
>Rx and OTC drugs, which the druggist does not have to sell. They are
>ethically and legally required to fill the doctor's orders, as a
>pharmacist is not an MD and has no business second guessing them,

A pharmacist can sent you to the store next door.

•R.Measures

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Sep 30, 2012, 8:24:27 PM9/30/12
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In article <o4eh68l4m71t9hr9l...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 13:46:20 -0700, r...@somis.org (•R.Measures) wrote:
>
> >In article <qaag68pu64gnr5bop...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 04:04:33 -0700, r...@somis.org (•R.Measures) wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <71hd689pjdnbd1q23...@4ax.com>, duke
> >> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> >> >> >> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an
> >accessory to
> >> >> >> murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by
refusing to
> >> >> >> dispense these pills.
> >> >> >Bull shit! These pharmacists should be put out of business.
> >> >>
> >> >> The morning after pill is a murder pill.
> >> >>
> >> >• According to "God's Holy Church", condoms are a diabolical device used
> >> >to murder the innocent.
> >>
> >> Un, noooooooo. It prevents natural life. No murder involved.
> >>
> >• The result is the same as murder in the minds of TBRCs.
>
> Nope, two entirely different things with the same unfortunate turnout - bad.
>
• Even if one of the coital partners has a DNA defect or a communicable
disease?

Kelsey Bjarnason

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On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:44:21 -0700, J wrote:

> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory to
> murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing to
> dispense these pills.

Just had a thought on this; let's turn the other cheek, so to speak.

Suppose I'm a fireman, and your house is on fire. I get to the scene,
realize you're a conservative and I promptly sit down to watch the fire.
Why? Well, conservatives are supposed to be all about individual
responsibility rather than supporting each other, which is completely
contrary to my personal ethical position - so on ethical grounds I'll
refuse to help them put out the fire.

Hey, you can't expect me to do the job when it is against my ethics,
right? And I shouldn't live in fear of losing my job just because I
prefer to watch the conservative scumbags lose everything, rather than
lift a finger to help, right?

Let me guess: as soon as it's *you* losing out on the services, suddenly
the other guy better do his job, right?

Kelsey Bjarnason

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On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 04:49:44 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>>>
>>> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
>>> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory
>>> to murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing
>>> to dispense these pills.
>>Bull shit! These pharmacists should be put out of business.
>
> The morning after pill is a murder pill.

And a blow job is cannibalism. Sorry, we can't help insane people unless
they're willing to take their meds. When did you go off yours again?

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Andrew W

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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:71hd689pjdnbd1q23...@4ax.com
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>>>
>>> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
>>> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an
>>> accessory to murder, they should not feel their jobs are in
>>> jeopardy by refusing to dispense these pills.
>> Bull shit! These pharmacists should be put out of business.
>
> The morning after pill is a murder pill.
>

There's a full fetus the very next morning after conception???
How??


--
Religions breed hypocrisy and self-righteousness.

Many Christians spend more time looking down on other people than up
towards Christ.


Dino

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On Sep 30, 2:43 am, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 06:55:39 -0700, Dino wrote:
> > On Sep 29, 8:34 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >> J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote innews:602crf....@news.alt.net:
>
> >> > The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> >> > thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory
> >> > to murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by
> >> > refusing to dispense these pills.
>
> >>      So you approve of shop owners being forced to
> >> retain people who refuse to do their jobs.
>
> >>      An odd position for a conservative to take, no?
>
> > It's ironic, how you pro-idiots, claim people on the pro-life side try
> > to control what women do with their bodies.
> > But yet, here you are supporting an attempt to control what two
> > pharmacist value personally.
>
> Not too bright, are you?  Here, let's explain it in simple terms even you
> can understand:

Oooh...is someone going to help you type the big words.

>
> As a pharmacist, your job is to dispense medications.

So, show me the prescription for a morning after pill.


>If you can't or
> won't do that, there are plenty of other jobs, so feel free to do one of
> *those* jobs, ones which don't require you to do things that offend your
> conscience.  Such as digging ditches.

I'm sure you are good at digging.

>
> Or choose to stay on as a pharmacist, if you prefer, but in that case *do
> the fucking job*.  Your choice.  We're all for you having the choice.  Do
> the job or get the fuck out.  Whichever.

WOW!!!
And to think, you spelled the words right. Congratulations!!!




Kelsey Bjarnason

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Oct 1, 2012, 3:22:27 AM10/1/12
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[snips]

On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:53:14 -0700, Dino wrote:

>> As a pharmacist, your job is to dispense medications.
>
> So, show me the prescription for a morning after pill.

Odd; I've had a pharmacist provide many medications over the years
without need of any prescriptions. Somehow this doesn't make the drugs
any less effective.

Sorry, aside from trying to make yourself look stupid, what was the point
there?


>>If you can't or
>> won't do that, there are plenty of other jobs, so feel free to do one
>> of *those* jobs, ones which don't require you to do things that offend
>> your conscience.  Such as digging ditches.
>
> I'm sure you are good at digging.

I note you're unable to cope with the issue.

SkyEyes

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Oct 1, 2012, 4:55:25 AM10/1/12
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I indulged in a wicked little fantasy one time: I imagined I was a
dispensing pharmacist and a woman comes in with a scrip for fertility
meds. I believe there are already too many people on the planet, and
believe that the kids who exist *now* and are without families should
be provided one before one more baby is conceived. So I smile
sweetly, and refuse to dispense the fert meds, explaining my ethical
dilemna.

That law would be off the books so fast it would make your head swim.
The yowling would have been loud enough to wake the Ancient Ones.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
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duke

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The need for sexual pleasure taking precedence over abstinence is noted by God.

duke

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On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 03:03:00 +0000 (UTC), Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjar...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 04:49:44 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>>>>
>>>> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
>>>> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory
>>>> to murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by refusing
>>>> to dispense these pills.
>>>Bull shit! These pharmacists should be put out of business.
>>
>> The morning after pill is a murder pill.

>And a blow job is cannibalism.

Sounds like the voice of experience to me. A bit confused, but experienced none
the less..

duke

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On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:17:01 +1000, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:

>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:71hd689pjdnbd1q23...@4ax.com
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>>>>
>>>> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
>>>> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an
>>>> accessory to murder, they should not feel their jobs are in
>>>> jeopardy by refusing to dispense these pills.
>>> Bull shit! These pharmacists should be put out of business.
>>
>> The morning after pill is a murder pill.

>There's a full fetus the very next morning after conception???
>How??

Human life starts at conception.

Andrew W

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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:17:01 +1000, "Andrew W"
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:71hd689pjdnbd1q23...@4ax.com
>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone
>>>>> else thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an
>>>>> accessory to murder, they should not feel their jobs are in
>>>>> jeopardy by refusing to dispense these pills.
>>>> Bull shit! These pharmacists should be put out of business.
>>>
>>> The morning after pill is a murder pill.
>
>> There's a full fetus the very next morning after conception???
>> How??
>
> Human life starts at conception.
>

Never proven or defined religious assumption.

The person has to be born before there can be a 'murder'.
And it has to be unlawful and against the person's or parent's wishes.
Otherwise its not murder.

harry k

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On Oct 1, 4:50 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:24:27 -0700, r...@somis.org ( R.Measures) wrote:
> >In article <o4eh68l4m71t9hr9lf8pcet94f841ae...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 13:46:20 -0700, r...@somis.org ( R.Measures) wrote:
>
> >> >In article <qaag68pu64gnr5boptuk5mh6cg5ugku...@4ax.com>, duke
> >> ><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 04:04:33 -0700, r...@somis.org ( R.Measures) wrote:
>
> >> >> >In article <71hd689pjdnbd1q23ldpo5ue3qibvc4...@4ax.com>, duke
> >> >> ><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >In article <602crf.9vv.1...@news.alt.net>, Jerk-L...@Liar.com says...
>
> >> >> >> >> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> >> >> >> >> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an
> >> >accessory to
> >> >> >> >> murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by
> >refusing to
> >> >> >> >> dispense these pills.
> >> >> >> >Bull shit!  These pharmacists should be put out of business.
>
> >> >> >> The morning after pill is a murder pill.
>
> >> >> >  According to "God's Holy Church", condoms are a diabolical device used
> >> >> >to murder the innocent.
>
> >> >> Un, noooooooo.  It prevents natural life.  No murder involved.
>
> >> >  The result is the same as murder in the minds of TBRCs.
>
> >> Nope, two entirely different things with the same unfortunate turnout - bad.
>
> >  Even if one of the coital partners has a DNA defect or a communicable
> >disease?
>
> The need for sexual pleasure taking precedence over abstinence is noted by God.
>
> The dukester, American - American
> ********************************************
> A vote for obama is a vote for the end of
> democracy in America as we know it. Let the
> rolling thunder guide your decision at the
> ballot box to put an end to Imperial Obama.
> May God bless America.
> ********************************************

If God didn't want so much sex going on hie wouildn't have made it so
pleasurable or fashiond humans with
the ability to 'get it on' so frequently.

I'll bet you wore your willy out when you were young...solitarily of
course as I suspect no girl would let you near her.

Harry K

harry k

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On Sep 30, 9:17 pm, "Andrew W" <remove_ajwer...@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
> "duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:71hd689pjdnbd1q23...@4ax.com
>
> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
>
> >> In article <602crf.9vv.1...@news.alt.net>, Jerk-L...@Liar.com says...
>
> >>> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> >>> thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an
> >>> accessory to murder, they should not feel their jobs are in
> >>> jeopardy by refusing to dispense these pills.
> >> Bull shit!  These pharmacists should be put out of business.
>
> > The morning after pill is a murder pill.
>
> There's a full fetus the very next morning after conception???
> How??
>
> --
> Religions breed hypocrisy and self-righteousness.
>
> Many Christians spend more time looking down on other people than up
> towards Christ.

Is it even possible for the egg to be fertilized in that short
period?

Harry K

•R.Measures

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In article <eo0j68lkm5lmkcrgk...@4ax.com>, duke
• "In matters of faith never trust your own judgment, but always humbly
submit to the decisions of the Holy Church."
(page 77, *A Full Catechism of the Catholic Religion*, Fr. Joseph De
Harbe, S.J.. 1889)

Duke has humbly submitted.

harry k

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On Sep 30, 9:53 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 30, 2:43 am, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 06:55:39 -0700, Dino wrote:
> > > On Sep 29, 8:34 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > >> J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote innews:602crf....@news.alt.net:
>
> > >> > The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what anyone else
> > >> > thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they are being an accessory
> > >> > to murder, they should not feel their jobs are in jeopardy by
> > >> > refusing to dispense these pills.
>
> > >>      So you approve of shop owners being forced to
> > >> retain people who refuse to do their jobs.
>
> > >>      An odd position for a conservative to take, no?
>
> > > It's ironic, how you pro-idiots, claim people on the pro-life side try
> > > to control what women do with their bodies.
> > > But yet, here you are supporting an attempt to control what two
> > > pharmacist value personally.
>
> > Not too bright, are you?  Here, let's explain it in simple terms even you
> > can understand:
>
> Oooh...is someone going to help you type the big words.
>
>
>
> > As a pharmacist, your job is to dispense medications.
>
> So, show me the prescription for a morning after pill.
>

So none of the OTC stuff is "medication"? Are you writing your own
dictionary?

> >If you can't or
> > won't do that, there are plenty of other jobs, so feel free to do one of
> > *those* jobs, ones which don't require you to do things that offend your
> > conscience.  Such as digging ditches.
>
> I'm sure you are good at digging.
>

Did ou have a point with that? Clue, if all you have is insults you
don't have a point.

>
> > Or choose to stay on as a pharmacist, if you prefer, but in that case *do
> > the fucking job*.  Your choice.  We're all for you having the choice.  Do
> > the job or get the fuck out.  Whichever.
>
> WOW!!!
> And to think, you spelled the words right. Congratulations!!!

Another pointles insult. Clue - you didn't rebut any of his post.

Harry K

Dino

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On Oct 1, 3:22 am, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [snips]
>
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:53:14 -0700, Dino wrote:
> >> As a pharmacist, your job is to dispense medications.
>
> > So, show me the prescription for a morning after pill.
>
> Odd; I've had a pharmacist provide many medications over the years
> without need of any prescriptions.

So, in this case if the girl did not have a prescription, which is
basically
a written order from a doctor....what obligation did the pharmacist
have?


> Somehow this doesn't make the drugs
> any less effective.
>
> Sorry, aside from trying to make yourself look stupid, what was the point
> there?

I realize that you are having problems. I'll try to take it a little
easy on you.

While I understand that they have a job to do, and I'm not saying
that they
shouldn't have been fired. What I am saying is, without a
prescription, what
obligation do they have?

Obviously the courts said, they did not have any obligation.




>
> >>If you can't or
> >> won't do that, there are plenty of other jobs, so feel free to do one
> >> of *those* jobs, ones which don't require you to do things that offend
> >> your conscience.  Such as digging ditches.
>
> > I'm sure you are good at digging.
>
> I note you're unable to cope with the issue.

I note, you're unable to cope at all.

Patrick

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".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote
> . "In matters of faith never trust your own judgment, but always humbly
> submit to the decisions of the Holy Church."
> (page 77, *A Full Catechism of the Catholic Religion*, Fr. Joseph De
> Harbe, S.J.. 1889)

Excellent example of a priest trying to teach a stupid retard.


Patrick

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"Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote ..
> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message

>> Human life starts at conception.
>>
>
> Never proven or defined religious assumption.

What do you call life?


Jeanne Douglas

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In article <dhjas.10665$Vg1....@fed02.iad>,
Sounds like a priest trying to force someone to become a slave.

--
JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

Dakota

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As a fireman, you should take care to ensure that the houses of the
conservative's progressive neighbors don't catch fire.

If J's house caught fire, his neighbors would form a bucket brigade
starting at the nearest gas station.

Dakota

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Viagra should also be on your list of proscribed prescriptions. ;)

Dakota

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Duckwheat's church has daily cannibalistic rituals. They also drink
blood at the bizarre ceremonies.

Dakota

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On 10/1/2012 2:22 AM, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> [snips]
>
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:53:14 -0700, Dino wrote:
>
>>> As a pharmacist, your job is to dispense medications.
>>
>> So, show me the prescription for a morning after pill.
>
> Odd; I've had a pharmacist provide many medications over the years
> without need of any prescriptions. Somehow this doesn't make the drugs
> any less effective.
>
> Sorry, aside from trying to make yourself look stupid, what was the point
> there?
>
In some jurisdictions, the morning after pill must be kept behind the
counter.

Dakota

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Duckwheat was regularly "serviced" by his parish priest. That's why
Catholic mass is called a service.

Dakota

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Humbly and with great enthusiasm.

Kelsey Bjarnason

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On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 07:07:53 -0700, Dino wrote:

> On Oct 1, 3:22 am, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> [snips]
>>
>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:53:14 -0700, Dino wrote:
>> >> As a pharmacist, your job is to dispense medications.
>>
>> > So, show me the prescription for a morning after pill.
>>
>> Odd; I've had a pharmacist provide many medications over the years
>> without need of any prescriptions.
>
> So, in this case if the girl did not have a prescription, which is
> basically a written order from a doctor....what obligation did the
> pharmacist have?

To do his job.

> While I understand that they have a job to do, and I'm not saying that
> they shouldn't have been fired. What I am saying is, without a
> prescription, what obligation do they have?

Again, to do their job.


> Obviously the courts said, they did not have any obligation.

Courts have made stupid and incorrect decisions before. This is why
appeals courts exist.

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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:24:27 -0700, r...@somis.org (.R.Measures) wrote:
>
>> In article <o4eh68l4m71t9hr9l...@4ax.com>, duke
>> <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 13:46:20 -0700, r...@somis.org (.R.Measures) wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <qaag68pu64gnr5bop...@4ax.com>, duke
>>>> <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 04:04:33 -0700, r...@somis.org (.R.Measures)
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <71hd689pjdnbd1q23...@4ax.com>, duke
>>>>>> <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:03:35 -0500, "W.T.S."
>>>>>>> <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article <602crf....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com
>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The court has ruled wisely. It makes no difference what
>>>>>>>>> anyone else thinks; if these pharmacists believe that they
>>>>>>>>> are being an accessory to murder, they should not feel their
>>>>>>>>> jobs are in jeopardy by
>> refusing to
>>>>>>>>> dispense these pills.
>>>>>>>> Bull shit! These pharmacists should be put out of business.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The morning after pill is a murder pill.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> . According to "God's Holy Church", condoms are a diabolical
>>>>>> device used to murder the innocent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Un, noooooooo. It prevents natural life. No murder involved.
>>>>>
>>>> . The result is the same as murder in the minds of TBRCs.
>>>
>>> Nope, two entirely different things with the same unfortunate
>>> turnout - bad.
>>>
>> . Even if one of the coital partners has a DNA defect or a
>> communicable disease?
>
> The need for sexual pleasure taking precedence over abstinence is
> noted by God.
>

Do you imagine you're 'God's' secretary or something?
You put words in God's mouth.
That's dishonest and arrogant.
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That kind of implies that Catholic partitioners are mostly retards who can't
think for themselves.
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There are several definitions.
It all depends on what level you want to go to.
There's no law that says we must bring every single fertilised egg into the
world.
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