More Sandusky accusers come forward

[Patrick]

More Sandusky accusers come forward



In revelations that had to surprise no one, new accusers of being molested
by Jerry Sandusky have come forward, making claims that date back to the
1970s and ’80s. According to the Patriot-News of Harrisburg, Pa., three men
have told investigators that Sandusky — recently convicted of 45 counts of
child abuse — molested them in the ’70 and ’80s.

Freeh’s team interviewed more than 430 people and reviewed more than three
million documents. The 267-page Freeh report concluded that former Penn
State coach Joe Paterno — along with former president Graham Spanier,
athletic director Tim Curley and former vice president Gary Schultz —
conducted a cover-up of abuse allegations against Sandusky and that it did
not protect the welfare of the youth involved in Sandusky’s charity, the
Second Mile.

http://atlantablackstar.com/2012/07/16/more-jerry-sandusky-accuers-from-70s-come-forward/



+ Gosh, it looks like coming forward and accusing someone of child abuse 40
years ago may be a great way of making money. If Sandusky had been a
priest, these new accusers could have hit a double jackpot.

[�R.Measures]

In article <npqdnQnQnc9cH5jN...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"

** Sandusky's stepson said that he was sodomized by Sandusky- yet he
filed no charges or sued for any money.

You appear to be headed for the rocks and shoals on this one Patrick.

[Fred Barley]

"Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>More Sandusky accusers come forward
>In revelations that had to surprise no one, new accusers of being molested
>by Jerry Sandusky have come forward

The man was a Christian, obviously. Every child under 14 was fair game
to the shitting Christian pedo.

---
Is this a dagger which I see before me, the handle
toward my hand? Come, let me clutch thee.

[�R.Measures]

In article <YcGdnUtSVL2sl5vN...@posted.sonicnet>,

k.chel...@yahoo.com wrote:

> "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
> >More Sandusky accusers come forward
> >In revelations that had to surprise no one, new accusers of being molested
> >by Jerry Sandusky have come forward
>
> The man was a Christian, obviously. Every child under 14 was fair game
> to the shitting Christian pedo.
>

� is that a coprophiliac who is Christian and diddles children?

[Mike Painter]

On 7/17/2012 8:20 AM, Patrick wrote:
> More Sandusky accusers come forward
>
>
>
> In revelations that had to surprise no one, new accusers of being molested
> by Jerry Sandusky have come forward, making claims that date back to the

> 1970s and �80s. According to the Patriot-News of Harrisburg, Pa., three men
> have told investigators that Sandusky � recently convicted of 45 counts of
> child abuse � molested them in the �70 and �80s.
>
> Freeh�s team interviewed more than 430 people and reviewed more than three

> million documents. The 267-page Freeh report concluded that former Penn

> State coach Joe Paterno � along with former president Graham Spanier,
> athletic director Tim Curley and former vice president Gary Schultz �

> conducted a cover-up of abuse allegations against Sandusky and that it did

> not protect the welfare of the youth involved in Sandusky�s charity, the

> Second Mile.
>
> http://atlantablackstar.com/2012/07/16/more-jerry-sandusky-accuers-from-70s-come-forward/
>
>
>
> + Gosh, it looks like coming forward and accusing someone of child abuse 40
> years ago may be a great way of making money. If Sandusky had been a
> priest, these new accusers could have hit a double jackpot.
>

Some people have empathy and can understand the problems of coming forward.
I'm sure Patrick has read about the word.

[Zacharias Mulletstein]

"Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote in message
news:npqdnQnQnc9cH5jN...@posted.localnet...

> More Sandusky accusers come forward
>
>
>
> In revelations that had to surprise no one, new accusers of being molested
> by Jerry Sandusky have come forward, making claims that date back to the

> 1970s and �80s. According to the Patriot-News of Harrisburg, Pa., three
> men have told investigators that Sandusky � recently convicted of 45
> counts of child abuse � molested them in the �70 and �80s.
>

> Freeh�s team interviewed more than 430 people and reviewed more than three

> million documents. The 267-page Freeh report concluded that former Penn

> State coach Joe Paterno � along with former president Graham Spanier,
> athletic director Tim Curley and former vice president Gary Schultz �

> conducted a cover-up of abuse allegations against Sandusky and that it did

> not protect the welfare of the youth involved in Sandusky�s charity, the

> Second Mile.
>
> http://atlantablackstar.com/2012/07/16/more-jerry-sandusky-accuers-from-70s-come-forward/
>
>
>
> + Gosh, it looks like coming forward and accusing someone of child abuse
> 40 years ago may be a great way of making money. If Sandusky had been a
> priest, these new accusers could have hit a double jackpot.

He had a regular mini-Vatican going on up there in State College.

[BroilJAB]

Virgil posting as Fred Barley said,
We atheists must close ranks to support
our new Icon: coach Jerzy Sandusky.
So WHAT if he 'had congress' with even the
youngest of boys? All homosexualists do
the same thing. There must be strict time
limits forbidding these boys from bringing
forward charges.

BroilJAB dropped briar pipe, in astonishment

[W.T.S.]

In article <f58da360-699f-4f9d-b4d2-
4b8fdd...@s9g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>, Design...@wmconnect.com
says...

> We atheists must close ranks to support
> our new Icon: coach Jerzy Sandusky.
> So WHAT if he 'had congress' with even the
> youngest of boys? All homosexualists do
> the same thing. There must be strict time
> limits forbidding these boys from bringing
> forward charges.

We Catholic priests must close ranks to support
our new Icon: coach Jerry Sandusky.

So WHAT if he 'had congress' with even the

youngest of boys? All Christian religions do

the same thing. There must be strict time
limits forbidding these boys from bringing
forward charges.

Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38

[duke]

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:28:44 -0700 (PDT), BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com>
wrote:

>Virgil posting as Fred Barley said,

I was wondering why barley was as disgusting as virgil. Now I understand.

The dukester, American - American
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[default]

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:28:44 -0700 (PDT), BroilJAB
<Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

News Flash! Catholics RALLY to defend pederast priests!


Oh, but that's old news.

"So WHAT if he 'had congress' with even the

youngest of boys?" "had congress?' That's a Christian ecclesiastical
turn of phrase these days. How appropriate! No mere tawdry "carnal
knowledge" for the well positioned Christian. No Sireee, they "have
congress;" presumably that covers oral anal homosexual sex, while not
spelling it out? Yeah boy, when you put it like that...

[Paul Duca]

On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:20:33 AM UTC-4, Patrick wrote:
> More Sandusky accusers come forward

> And thank God because it keeps people from snooping around the Church!
>

[Fred Barley]

The dung refers to what's packed in to their silly cult heads. :)

[Fred Barley]

"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasm...@alwaysalwaysright.com> wrote:

>"Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote in message

>> http://atlantablackstar.com/2012/07/16/more-jerry-sandusky-accuers-from-70s-come-forward/
>> + Gosh, it looks like coming forward and accusing someone of child abuse
>> 40 years ago may be a great way of making money. If Sandusky had been a
>> priest, these new accusers could have hit a double jackpot.
>He had a regular mini-Vatican going on up there in State College.

This happens in virtually every Christian church across the country,
it is only a matter of degree and frequency. The Catholic brand name
might not even be the brand name with the most child rapes to their
credit, it might be the Mormon variant with their infiltration and
take-over of the Boy Scouts of Amerikkka.

[Patrick]

".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-1707121...@10.0.1.3...

> In article <npqdnQnQnc9cH5jN...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"
> <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>
>> More Sandusky accusers come forward
>>
>>
>>
>> In revelations that had to surprise no one, new accusers of being
>> molested
>> by Jerry Sandusky have come forward, making claims that date back to the
>> 1970s and '80s. According to the Patriot-News of Harrisburg, Pa., three
>> men

>> have told investigators that Sandusky - recently convicted of 45 counts
>> of
>> child abuse - molested them in the '70 and '80s.

>>
>> Freeh's team interviewed more than 430 people and reviewed more than
>> three
>> million documents. The 267-page Freeh report concluded that former Penn

>> State coach Joe Paterno - along with former president Graham Spanier,
>> athletic director Tim Curley and former vice president Gary Schultz -

>> conducted a cover-up of abuse allegations against Sandusky and that it
>> did
>> not protect the welfare of the youth involved in Sandusky's charity, the
>> Second Mile.
>>
>>
> http://atlantablackstar.com/2012/07/16/more-jerry-sandusky-accuers-from-70s-come-forward/
>>
>>
>>
>> + Gosh, it looks like coming forward and accusing someone of child abuse
>> 40
>> years ago may be a great way of making money. If Sandusky had been a
>> priest, these new accusers could have hit a double jackpot.
>
> ** Sandusky's stepson said that he was sodomized by Sandusky- yet he
> filed no charges or sued for any money.
> You appear to be headed for the rocks and shoals on this one Patrick.

I have never claimed that every alleged victim is a liar.
And, you don't know what the stepson will do in the next 10 years.

[Patrick]

"Fred Barley" <k.chel...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:YcGdnUtSVL2sl5vN...@posted.sonicnet...

> "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>More Sandusky accusers come forward
>>In revelations that had to surprise no one, new accusers of being molested
>>by Jerry Sandusky have come forward
>
> The man was a Christian, obviously. Every child under 14 was fair game
> to the shitting Christian pedo.

No, he wasn't. He was a Fred Barley wannabe.

[�R.Measures]

In article <KN6dndevK5She5vN...@posted.sonicnet>,

k.chel...@yahoo.com wrote:

> r...@somis.org (�R.Measures) wrote:
> >In article <YcGdnUtSVL2sl5vN...@posted.sonicnet>,
> >k.chel...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
> >> >More Sandusky accusers come forward
> >> >In revelations that had to surprise no one, new accusers of being
molested
> >> >by Jerry Sandusky have come forward
> >> The man was a Christian, obviously. Every child under 14 was fair game
> >> to the shitting Christian pedo.
> > is that a coprophiliac who is Christian and diddles children?
>
> The dung refers to what's packed in to their silly cult heads. :)
>

� chortle. It seems fitting that their cult leader - the pope - issues
Bulls - as in BS.

[Patrick]

"Mike Painter" <md.pa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote >

>>
>> + Gosh, it looks like coming forward and accusing someone of child abuse
>> 40
>> years ago may be a great way of making money. If Sandusky had been a
>> priest, these new accusers could have hit a double jackpot.

> Some people have empathy and can understand the problems of coming
> forward.
> I'm sure Patrick has read about the word.

Yes, I have.
And I have empathy for any victim.
I just hope that their coming forward will help the victim.

[Patrick]

"Fred Barley" <k.chel...@yahoo.com> wrote

> This happens in virtually every Christian church across the country,
> it is only a matter of degree and frequency. The Catholic brand name
> might not even be the brand name with the most child rapes to their
> credit, it might be the Mormon variant with their infiltration and
> take-over of the Boy Scouts of Amerikkka.

You forgot to mention your own family.....
When your mom divorced your daddy, did he still consider
her his sister?
Even the Supreme Court allows the Boy scouts to kick
all the fags out.

[Alan Ferris]

On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:55:30 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:

>> Some people have empathy and can understand the problems of coming
>> forward.
>> I'm sure Patrick has read about the word.
>
>Yes, I have.
>And I have empathy for any victim.

Liar:

----
"+ Somebody tell me who this child is, and I will teach her about
child abuse."
- Patrick Barker
----
"+ There are so many more things to worry about in this world than a
few victims who were abused by some priest 40 years ago. If that was
the worst that ever happened to them, they should consider themselves
lucky."
- Patrick Barker
----
The Catholic Church in the Netherlands castrated at least 10 boys in the 1950s
to cure them of their homosexuality, or to punish them for accusing clergy
members of sexual abuse.

"Makes sense to me." - Patrick Barker
----

[Mike Painter]

So your original comment about coming forward to make money was just an
attempt at humor?

I've read your other comments and your act of contrition seems just
that, an act.

[Mike Painter]

Unable to find something to plagiarizer Patrick uses his own words and
changes the subject.

SCOTUS did not "allow" the scouts to kick people out.
They simply said they aere a private group, could do pretty much as they
pleased and could no longer use government facitities.

[Fred Barley]

Yes he was a staunch Christian, almost every child rapist that is in
prison is a Christian, not a single one of them is an atheist.

You should know since you're a pedophile cult follower.

---
And in her most unmitigable rage, into a cloven pine, within
which rift imprisoned thou didst painfully remain a dozen
years; within which space she died and left thee there, where
thou didst vent thy groans

[Christopher A. Lee]

Which they imagine they are entitled to and blame those they kicked
out when they could no longer use them. Whether they are atheist or
gay.

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:30:22 -0700, Mike Painter
<md.pa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 7/18/2012 9:55 AM, Patrick wrote:
>> "Mike Painter" <md.pa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote >
>>>>
>>>> + Gosh, it looks like coming forward and accusing someone of child abuse
>>>> 40
>>>> years ago may be a great way of making money. If Sandusky had been a
>>>> priest, these new accusers could have hit a double jackpot.
>>
>>> Some people have empathy and can understand the problems of coming
>>> forward.
>>> I'm sure Patrick has read about the word.
>>
>> Yes, I have.
>> And I have empathy for any victim.
>> I just hope that their coming forward will help the victim.
>>
>>
>So your original comment about coming forward to make money was just an
>attempt at humor?

He's been saying it seriously for years.

[Fred Barley]

"Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>"Mike Painter" <md.pa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote >
>>> + Gosh, it looks like coming forward and accusing someone of child abuse
>>> 40
>>> years ago may be a great way of making money. If Sandusky had been a
>>> priest, these new accusers could have hit a double jackpot.
>> Some people have empathy and can understand the problems of coming
>> forward.
>> I'm sure Patrick has read about the word.
>Yes, I have. And I have empathy for any victim.

So much so you remain a member of the child raping cult.

That means you agree with raping kids.

[Alan Ferris]

On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:20:24 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:

>You forgot to mention your own family.....
>When your mom divorced your daddy, did he still consider
>her his sister?

Barker projects his own sad life onto the newsgroups regularly.

----
"+I married a woman, adopted children, I lived the Catholic life that
the Church teaches. I did not demand that I be allowed to live a
sinful life. I lived the life laid doen by the Church and the Bible.
+Today I have two lovely daughters. They have grown up understanding
my need to dress in womens clothes. They understand that we are all
sinners and can be forgiven each week.
+They understand the times that I have been week and allowed my lust
to overcome me. They understand that I can be forgiven."
- Patrick Barker
Message-ID: <885e59d699ffec86...@news.teranews.com>
----

[BroilJAB]

Jerry Sandusky has kicked down the
door and defiantly demands access to
even the youngest of boys. Gay Pride
in action.

[Christopher A. Lee]

He's a stringvestite.

[W.T.S.]

In article <25ee0f6a-6372-4b00-9fe0-
236306...@t20g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Design...@wmconnect.com
says...

The Catholic priest has kicked down the

door and defiantly demands access to

even the youngest of boys. Catholicism
in action!

[Zacharias Mulletstein]

"BroilJAB" <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
news:25ee0f6a-6372-4b00...@t20g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...

Actually Sandusky, Petrino, and Penn State are the pride of the Roman
Catholic Church. As bad as I'd like to pin this one on the pop athiests,
this one is all yours, Vatican.

[�R.Measures]

In article <0PGdnbTj_ttvdJvN...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"

** Your posts about false claims are not fair and balanced.

[duke]

On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:20:24 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:

Wow, I thing we going to have some fun with this clown.

[Alan Ferris]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:05:29 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>>You forgot to mention your own family.....
>>When your mom divorced your daddy, did he still consider
>>her his sister?
>>Even the Supreme Court allows the Boy scouts to kick
>>all the fags out.
>
>Wow, I thing we going to have some fun with this clown.

You really should stop calling your boyfriend a clown.

----
Maybe PBarker's problem is that he can't read, or is afraid to."
- duke (Earl Weber)
----

[Jerry Sandusky]

I know I'll be here a while, but I want to thank all the priests,
fellow pedophiles, and the Pope himself for their support during my
trying times.

As most of "my boys" will tell you, I meant them no lasting harm. And
I used K-Y jelly and vaseline whenever they were handy.

I have received letters from some of my loyal boys, who say they miss
our times together, in the showers, or in my home bedroom, where
pleasure was our mutual goal.

So, again, I say 'thank you' all and perhaps I'll see you sometime
down the road.

-- Jer

[Patrick]

".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote

> ** Your posts about false claims are not fair and balanced.

OH?
And all your claims are fair and balanced?
Gimme a break.....

[Patrick]

"Fred Barley" <k.chel...@yahoo.com> wrote

>
> every child rapist that is in
> prison is a Christian, not a single one of them is an atheist.

Only those who are up for parole.
You should know this.
Isn't that how you got out the first and second times?

[Patrick]

"Mike Painter" <md.pa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote -dn...@giganews.com...

> On 7/18/2012 9:55 AM, Patrick wrote:
>> "Mike Painter" <md.pa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote >
>>>>
>>>> + Gosh, it looks like coming forward and accusing someone of child
>>>> abuse
>>>> 40 years ago may be a great way of making money. If Sandusky had been
>>>> a
>>>> priest, these new accusers could have hit a double jackpot.
>>
>>> Some people have empathy and can understand the problems of coming
>>> forward.
>>> I'm sure Patrick has read about the word.
>>
>> Yes, I have.
>> And I have empathy for any victim.
>> I just hope that their coming forward will help the victim.
>>
>>
> So your original comment about coming forward to make money was just an
> attempt at humor?

No....
I said that "accusing someone of child abuse 40 years ago may be a

great way of making money."

Don't you feel that the statement has some validity?

[Patrick]

"Christopher A. Lee" <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:icbe0854j3hrokmui...@4ax.com...

Let me say it again:

[Patrick]

"Fred Barley" <k.chel...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:NfydnQ8WeoCes5rN...@posted.sonicnet...

> "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>"Mike Painter" <md.pa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote >
>>>> + Gosh, it looks like coming forward and accusing someone of child
>>>> abuse
>>>> 40
>>>> years ago may be a great way of making money. If Sandusky had been a
>>>> priest, these new accusers could have hit a double jackpot.
>>> Some people have empathy and can understand the problems of coming
>>> forward.
>>> I'm sure Patrick has read about the word.
>>Yes, I have. And I have empathy for any victim.
>
> So much so you remain a member of the child raping cult.
> That means you agree with raping kids.

No, I don't belong to any of your fag groups.

[Patrick]

"Mike Painter" <md.pa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:VvudnQVdy4svtprN...@giganews.com...

> On 7/18/2012 1:20 PM, Patrick wrote:
>> "Fred Barley" <k.chel...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> This happens in virtually every Christian church across the country,
>>> it is only a matter of degree and frequency. The Catholic brand name
>>> might not even be the brand name with the most child rapes to their
>>> credit, it might be the Mormon variant with their infiltration and
>>> take-over of the Boy Scouts of Amerikkka.
>>
>> You forgot to mention your own family.....
>> When your mom divorced your daddy, did he still consider
>> her his sister?
>> Even the Supreme Court allows the Boy scouts to kick
>> all the fags out.
>>
>>
> Unable to find something to plagiarizer Patrick uses his own words and
> changes the subject.

Didn't fred just mention: "the Boy Scouts of Amerikkka."?

> SCOTUS did not "allow" the scouts to kick people out.
> They simply said they aere a private group, could do pretty much as they
> pleased and could no longer use government facitities.

So, if they can do anything they want, they can kick the
fags out. Some lesbo is now collecting signatures to send
to the Boy Scouts because they dismissed her.
Yeah, .......... signatures....
Like that is going to make a difference.....
Tell the lesbo to send them to me.

[Patrick]

"Christopher A. Lee" <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:c9be081ks2j8kohsm...@4ax.com...

If they would just STFU, they could have stayed in the Scouts.
In case you don't know it, the Boy Scouts of America is a
private organization. Fags do not have a "RIGHT" to join them.

[Mike Lovell]

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On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>> So much so you remain a member of the child raping cult.
>> That means you agree with raping kids.
>
> No, I don't belong to any of your fag groups.

You're no longer a Catholic?

Congratulations.

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[Mike Lovell]

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On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:

>> Which they imagine they are entitled to and blame those they kicked
>> out when they could no longer use them. Whether they are atheist or
>> gay.
>
> If they would just STFU, they could have stayed in the Scouts.
> In case you don't know it, the Boy Scouts of America is a
> private organization. Fags do not have a "RIGHT" to join them.

It's subsided by the public.

They get free use of government offices and property. Often they are
only charged token rent for their office ($1).

They need to start paying full charge for all public facilities if they
want to start taking political stands.

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[Mike Lovell]

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On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:

> [...] kick the fags out. [...] Some lesbo [...]
> Tell the lesbo [...]

Hate, hate, hate.

I'm really confused on Christianity now. I keep getting told it's the
religion of love only to have it immediately contradicted by the
behavior of its followers.

Oh hypocrisy! :-)

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[Alan Ferris]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:23:33 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:

>> He's been saying it seriously for years.
>
>Let me say it again:
>it looks like coming forward and accusing someone of child abuse
>40 years ago may be a great way of making money.

Let me say it again. You are an asshole.

----
"+ Do some homework, nygger, before you answer."
- Patrick Barker
----

[Patrick]

"Mike Lovell" <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote ...

> On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>> Which they imagine they are entitled to and blame those they kicked
>>> out when they could no longer use them. Whether they are atheist or
>>> gay.
>>
>> If they would just STFU, they could have stayed in the Scouts.
>> In case you don't know it, the Boy Scouts of America is a
>> private organization. Fags do not have a "RIGHT" to join them.
>
> It's subsided by the public.
> They get free use of government offices and property. Often they are
> only charged token rent for their office ($1).
> They need to start paying full charge for all public facilities if they
> want to start taking political stands.

Keeping fags off the admission roles is not a political statement.
Fags trying to join private organizations IS a political stand.

If you don't like what is going on, sign a petition. It will do as much
good as joining hands at a candle service and singing koom-bye-yah!

[Patrick]

"Mike Lovell" <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote >

> On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>> [...] kick the fags out. [...] Some lesbo [...]
>> Tell the lesbo [...]
>
> Hate, hate, hate.
> I'm really confused on Christianity now. I keep getting told it's the
> religion of love only to have it immediately contradicted by the
> behavior of its followers.

Do as I say, butt-wipe.

[Mike Lovell]

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On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>> It's subsided by the public.
>> They get free use of government offices and property. Often they are
>> only charged token rent for their office ($1).
>> They need to start paying full charge for all public facilities if they
>> want to start taking political stands.
>
> Keeping fags off the admission roles is not a political statement.
> Fags trying to join private organizations IS a political stand.

Yes it is. You couldn't do this in a public organization, so they need
to stop receiving public subsidies.

Same with churches, they should pay their taxes like everyone else, and
every other organization.

> If you don't like what is going on, sign a petition. It will do as much
> good as joining hands at a candle service and singing koom-bye-yah!

People have been working to remove their subsidies, for example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winkler_v._Rumsfeld

Although this case wasn't successful the scouts are moving to private
facilities in 2013. They claim for other reasons of course.

This will save the tax payer a lot of money, great news.


All these things are ongoing, there's many violations of the First
Amendment that need challenging (scouts are also a religious based
organization that excludes atheists).


Their public funding and subsidies will continue to drop. And they're
at $0 they can do whatever they like. Go nuts!

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Exactly...

"Do as I say, not as I do"

You cannot be a Christian (of any denomination) if you don't love your
neighbor or follow the teachings of Jesus.

And I seem to recall him preaching love and not hate.


So the natural assumption is not only are you not a Catholic but you're
not even a Christian!

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[Patrick]

"Mike Lovell" <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote in message
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> On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>> It's subsided by the public.
>>> They get free use of government offices and property. Often they are
>>> only charged token rent for their office ($1).
>>> They need to start paying full charge for all public facilities if they
>>> want to start taking political stands.
>>
>> Keeping fags off the admission roles is not a political statement.
>> Fags trying to join private organizations IS a political stand.
>
> Yes it is. You couldn't do this in a public organization, so they need
> to stop receiving public subsidies.

<yawn>
So do you.

> Same with churches, they should pay their taxes like everyone else, and
> every other organization.

Why?
Do churches owe tax?

[Patrick]

"Mike Lovell" <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote in message

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> On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>> "Mike Lovell" <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote >
>>> On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>>> [...] kick the fags out. [...] Some lesbo [...]
>>>> Tell the lesbo [...]
>>>
>>> Hate, hate, hate.
>>> I'm really confused on Christianity now. I keep getting told it's the
>>> religion of love only to have it immediately contradicted by the
>>> behavior of its followers.
>>
>> Do as I say, butt-wipe.
>
> Exactly...
>
> "Do as I say, not as I do"
>
> You cannot be a Christian (of any denomination) if you don't love your
> neighbor or follow the teachings of Jesus.

No.......
you can't.
I can do anything I like.

[�R.Measures]

In article <uZednTAYH-cY3JXN...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"

** Trying to sanitize "evil fag" priests by associasting them with
falsely saccused priests will not look good on you CV on Judgement Day
P.B..

[�R.Measures]

In article <XI6dnbdS0Y8I35XN...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"

** Not in California.

[Alan Ferris]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 21:48:59 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:

>> You cannot be a Christian (of any denomination) if you don't love your
>> neighbor or follow the teachings of Jesus.
>
>No.......
>you can't.
>I can do anything I like.

Barker has never grasped true confession. He thinks his empty confessions are
enough to satisfy his kind of god.

----
"+ Oh - and what makes you think God can hear your prayers?"
- Patrick Barker
----

[Patrick]

".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message

news:r-1907122...@10.0.1.3...

I suppose that is true - if that were my purpose.

[duke]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:37:59 -0500, Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote:

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>On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>> Which they imagine they are entitled to and blame those they kicked
>>> out when they could no longer use them. Whether they are atheist or
>>> gay.
>>
>> If they would just STFU, they could have stayed in the Scouts.
>> In case you don't know it, the Boy Scouts of America is a
>> private organization. Fags do not have a "RIGHT" to join them.
>
>It's subsided by the public.
>
>They get free use of government offices and property. Often they are
>only charged token rent for their office ($1).
>
>They need to start paying full charge for all public facilities if they
>want to start taking political stands.

Queers are dysfunctional. They go against the standards of life established by
the Scouts. Hence the Scouts have the right to reject them.

Scout Oath
On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.

Scout Law
A Scout is:
Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful,
Friendly, Courteous, Kind,
Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty,
Brave, Clean, Reverent

Queers go against God, are morally crooked, and not reverent (in practice). The
Scouts have the right to reject them.

[duke]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:17:39 -0500, Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote:

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>On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>> It's subsided by the public.
>>> They get free use of government offices and property. Often they are
>>> only charged token rent for their office ($1).
>>> They need to start paying full charge for all public facilities if they
>>> want to start taking political stands.
>>
>> Keeping fags off the admission roles is not a political statement.
>> Fags trying to join private organizations IS a political stand.
>
>Yes it is. You couldn't do this in a public organization, so they need
>to stop receiving public subsidies.
>
>Same with churches, they should pay their taxes like everyone else, and
>every other organization.

Churches pay exactly the taxes they are required to, just like everybody else.
All businesses are allowed business and operational deductions, and charitable
deductions. If others have to give up their government IRS benefits, you too
should have to give up your mortgage deductions and charitable (cough, cough)
deductions.

>> If you don't like what is going on, sign a petition. It will do as much
>> good as joining hands at a candle service and singing koom-bye-yah!

>People have been working to remove their subsidies, for example:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winkler_v._Rumsfeld



>
>Although this case wasn't successful the scouts are moving to private
>facilities in 2013. They claim for other reasons of course.
>
>This will save the tax payer a lot of money, great news.
>
>
>All these things are ongoing, there's many violations of the First
>Amendment that need challenging (scouts are also a religious based
>organization that excludes atheists).
>
>
>Their public funding and subsidies will continue to drop. And they're
>at $0 they can do whatever they like. Go nuts!
>
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[duke]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 21:48:22 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:

>"Mike Lovell" <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote in message
>news:slrnk0gubj....@usenet.home.b0h0.com...
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>> On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>>> It's subsided by the public.
>>>> They get free use of government offices and property. Often they are
>>>> only charged token rent for their office ($1).
>>>> They need to start paying full charge for all public facilities if they
>>>> want to start taking political stands.
>>>
>>> Keeping fags off the admission roles is not a political statement.
>>> Fags trying to join private organizations IS a political stand.
>>
>> Yes it is. You couldn't do this in a public organization, so they need
>> to stop receiving public subsidies.
>
><yawn>
>So do you.

People like mlovell don't stop to think about that.

>> Same with churches, they should pay their taxes like everyone else, and
>> every other organization.
>
>Why?
>Do churches owe tax?
>
>

[duke]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:41:03 -0500, Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote:

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>On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>> [...] kick the fags out. [...] Some lesbo [...]
>> Tell the lesbo [...]
>
>Hate, hate, hate.
>
>I'm really confused on Christianity now. I keep getting told it's the
>religion of love only to have it immediately contradicted by the
>behavior of its followers.
>
>Oh hypocrisy! :-)

There's no hypocrisy in correcting your own ugliness.

[duke]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:19:35 -0500, Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote:

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>On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>> "Mike Lovell" <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote >
>>> On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>>> [...] kick the fags out. [...] Some lesbo [...]
>>>> Tell the lesbo [...]
>>>
>>> Hate, hate, hate.
>>> I'm really confused on Christianity now. I keep getting told it's the
>>> religion of love only to have it immediately contradicted by the
>>> behavior of its followers.
>>
>> Do as I say, butt-wipe.
>
>Exactly...
>
> "Do as I say, not as I do"
>
>You cannot be a Christian (of any denomination) if you don't love your
>neighbor or follow the teachings of Jesus.

Correction, you're still a Christian but one that might be considered to be
faltering. Jesus teaches us to avoid "an eye for an eye", but he didn't tell us
not to take a defensive posture.

Your never having been exposed to Christianity, you wouldn't know that. However,
even many Jews, Muslims and communists understand better than you do.

[duke]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:31:11 -0500, Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote:

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>On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>> So much so you remain a member of the child raping cult.
>>> That means you agree with raping kids.
>>
>> No, I don't belong to any of your fag groups.
>
>You're no longer a Catholic?
>Congratulations.

I think you missed the obvious message.

[Alan Ferris]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 05:52:09 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>>Same with churches, they should pay their taxes like everyone else, and
>>every other organization.
>
>Churches pay exactly the taxes they are required to, just like everybody else.
>All businesses are allowed business and operational deductions, and charitable
>deductions. If others have to give up their government IRS benefits, you too
>should have to give up your mortgage deductions and charitable (cough, cough)
>deductions.

Charitable organisation are not allowed to use their funds to pursue political
aspirations, the Catholic Church does and is already under investigation in the
UK over this and could loose it charitable status.
--
Ferrit

()'.'.'()
( (T) )
( ) . ( )
(")_(")

[�R.Measures]

In article <1vadnTEy77DGrpTN...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"

<bark...@erinot.com> wrote:

> ".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
> news:r-1907122...@10.0.1.3...
> > In article <uZednTAYH-cY3JXN...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"
> > <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
> >
> >> ".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote
> >> > ** Your posts about false claims are not fair and balanced.
> >>
> >> OH?
> >> And all your claims are fair and balanced?
> >> Gimme a break.....
> >
> > ** Trying to sanitize "evil fag" priests by associasting them with

> > falsely accused priests will not look good on you CV on Judgement Day

> > P.B..
>
> I suppose that is true - if that were my purpose.

** Some say the avenue to Hell is paved with good intentions.

[arjay]

the slug <bark...@erinot.com> wrote in message
news:38mdnSjHJcORJJXN...@posted.localnet...

> "Mike Lovell" <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnk0guf7....@usenet.home.b0h0.com...

>> On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>> "Mike Lovell" <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote >
>>>> On 2012-07-19, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>>>> [...] kick the fags out. [...] Some lesbo [...]
>>>>> Tell the lesbo [...]
>>>>
>>>> Hate, hate, hate.
>>>> I'm really confused on Christianity now. I keep getting told it's the
>>>> religion of love only to have it immediately contradicted by the
>>>> behavior of its followers.
>>>
>>> Do as I say, butt-wipe.
>>
>> Exactly...
>>
>> "Do as I say, not as I do"
>>
>> You cannot be a Christian (of any denomination) if you don't love your
>> neighbor or follow the teachings of Jesus.
>
> No.......
> you can't.
> I can do anything I like.

Right. What was it you used to say was the wonderful advantage you had as a
member of the RCC? Something like "I get to sin, get to 'fess up, and be
home in time for supper."
Then there was your claim that the RCC was not in the punishment business,
but in the forgiveness business.
Yup -- when the various Inquisitions were active the Church itself never
tortured or killed -- it got the local earthly authorities to do that, while
standing back and watching, waiting around to "forgive" the condemned just
before death.
Your ability to do anything you like has cost the rest of the world dearly.

[Christopher A. Lee]

And that's its own fault for interfering in the democratic process by
threatening to withhold communion from MPs who didn't vote the way the
RCC wanted them to.

They tried the same thing in the US too.

[Christopher A. Lee]

Was Ratprick projecting?

Has he ever met any victims of pedophiles?

It's about closure for the victims, punishment for the perpetrators
and those who facilitated it, and making sure it stops.

Just like any other kind of rape.

I was assaulted when I was a small boy, in the lavatory of a public
park with a children's playground. My parents called the police but he
was never caught.

He didn't sodomise me, just tried to masturbate me but I was too young
to know what he was doing at the time.

It took me years to get over it - I thought there was something wrong
with me that he had done it to *me*, which lasted until my first
serious girlfriend rather later in life than most young men.

No amount of money would have made up for it.

Similarly for the other posters here of both sexes who have told their
own stories.

[�R.Measures]

In article <d13j08t9sqa3jm84b...@4ax.com>, Christopher A.

** CA used to have a law that protected pedophiles from prosecution after
a certain # of years.

> Has he ever met any victims of pedophiles?
>

** I don't know.

> It's about closure for the victims, punishment for the perpetrators
> and those who facilitated it, and making sure it stops.
>
> Just like any other kind of rape.
>
> I was assaulted when I was a small boy, in the lavatory of a public
> park with a children's playground. My parents called the police but he
> was never caught.
>
> He didn't sodomise me, just tried to masturbate me but I was too young
> to know what he was doing at the time.
>
> It took me years to get over it - I thought there was something wrong
> with me that he had done it to *me*, which lasted until my first
> serious girlfriend rather later in life than most young men.
>
> No amount of money would have made up for it.
>

** Agreed but therapy costs $$.

[Patrick]

"Christopher A. Lee" <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote
>>>

>>> Let me say it again:
>>> it looks like coming forward and accusing someone of child abuse
>>> 40 years ago may be a great way of making money.
>>
>>** Not in California.
>
> Was Ratprick projecting?

Just making a true statement.

> Has he ever met any victims of pedophiles?

Does it have to be a pedophile?
Since child sexual abuse is "COMMON" in many families, I
would be afraid to label a stepfather as a pedophile.
Children are suffering from a hidden epidemic of child abuse
and neglect. Every year 3.3 million reports of child abuse are
made in the United States involving 6 million children.
Five children die every day in America.
a.. 14% of all men in prison in the USA were abused as children. 7
a.. 36% of all women in prison were abused as children. 7
a.. Children who experience child abuse & neglect are 59% more likely to be
arrested as a juvenile, 28% more likely to be arrested as an adult, and 30%
more likely to commit violent crime. 5
http://www.childhelp.org/pages/statistics/

> It's about closure for the victims, punishment for the perpetrators
> and those who facilitated it, and making sure it stops.

Bull Shit.
No one is serious in the Criminal Justice System in punishing
the perpetrators. Just today, some perp plead guilty to
40 counts of child sexual abuse and was sentenced to 2 years
in prison.

> Just like any other kind of rape.
> I was assaulted when I was a small boy, in the lavatory of a public
> park with a children's playground. My parents called the police but he
> was never caught.
> He didn't sodomise me, just tried to masturbate me but I was too young
> to know what he was doing at the time.
> It took me years to get over it - I thought there was something wrong
> with me that he had done it to *me*, which lasted until my first
> serious girlfriend rather later in life than most young men.
> No amount of money would have made up for it.
> Similarly for the other posters here of both sexes who have told their
> own stories.

I am sorry for your experience. But, you MUST know that
this happens every single day. It is up to EACH of US to figure
out how to cope with the loss of innocence.

Some people will cling onto their victim status for as long as
they feel they are being coddled. (or need coddling)
(I said SOME -- not all.....)

At some point, letting go of the past is a healthy strategy.
"Living well is the best revenge," said George Herbert.
Focus on healthy adult relationships, figuring out who you are,
and achieving your goals. Set aside the past and look ahead,
to the future.

[Patrick]

"Christopher A. Lee" <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote

> And that's its own fault for interfering in the democratic process by
> threatening to withhold communion from MPs who didn't vote the way the
> RCC wanted them to.
> They tried the same thing in the US too.

And another one.
Give it up, cwissy.

[Patrick]

"arjay" <ar...@hobbiton.net> wrote

>>> You cannot be a Christian (of any denomination) if you don't love your
>>> neighbor or follow the teachings of Jesus.
>>
>> No.......
>> you can't.
>> I can do anything I like.
>
> Right. What was it you used to say was the wonderful advantage you had as
> a member of the RCC? Something like "I get to sin, get to 'fess up, and
> be home in time for supper."

Yeah, something like that. I thought it was a good quip.
You did too. Otherwise you wouldn't have remembered it.

> Then there was your claim that the RCC was not in the punishment business,
> but in the forgiveness business.

Yup, said that also.
The RCC does not have jail cells for punishment.

> Yup -- when the various Inquisitions were active the Church

(Hundreds and hundreds of years ago)

> itself never tortured or killed -- it got the local earthly authorities to
> do that, while standing back and watching, waiting around to "forgive" the
> condemned just before death.
> Your ability to do anything you like has cost the rest of the world
> dearly.

Gosh. I didn't realize I had done all of that.
I'll have to search my soul and build a confession for Saturday afternoon.

[Mike Lovell]

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On 2012-07-20, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>> Keeping fags off the admission roles is not a political statement.
>>> Fags trying to join private organizations IS a political stand.
>>
>> Yes it is. You couldn't do this in a public organization, so they need
>> to stop receiving public subsidies.
>
><yawn>
> So do you.

Like?

>> Same with churches, they should pay their taxes like everyone else, and
>> every other organization.
>
> Why?
> Do churches owe tax?

They should start paying tax like very other organization.

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On 2012-07-20, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> So much so you remain a member of the child raping cult.
>>>> That means you agree with raping kids.
>>>
>>> No, I don't belong to any of your fag groups.
>>
>>You're no longer a Catholic?
>>Congratulations.
>
> I think you missed the obvious message.

He said he doesn't belong to a fag group.

That includes the Catholic Church, so he's claiming he's no longer a
Catholic. Interesting.

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On 2012-07-20, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> [...] kick the fags out. [...] Some lesbo [...]
>>> Tell the lesbo [...]
>>
>>Hate, hate, hate.
>>
>>I'm really confused on Christianity now. I keep getting told it's the
>>religion of love only to have it immediately contradicted by the
>>behavior of its followers.
>>
>>Oh hypocrisy! :-)
>
> There's no hypocrisy in correcting your own ugliness.

More hate! Oh hypocrisy.

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[Mike Lovell]

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On 2012-07-20, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> Hate, hate, hate.
>>>> I'm really confused on Christianity now. I keep getting told it's the
>>>> religion of love only to have it immediately contradicted by the
>>>> behavior of its followers.
>>>
>>> Do as I say, butt-wipe.
>>
>>Exactly...
>>
>> "Do as I say, not as I do"
>>
>>You cannot be a Christian (of any denomination) if you don't love your
>>neighbor or follow the teachings of Jesus.
>
> Correction, you're still a Christian but one that might be considered to be
> faltering. Jesus teaches us to avoid "an eye for an eye", but he didn't tell us
> not to take a defensive posture.
>
> Your never having been exposed to Christianity, you wouldn't know that. However,
> even many Jews, Muslims and communists understand better than you do.

Oh I see, so what's the point of following any of the rules?

Either you're getting into heaven or not. You can ignore the teachings
of Jesus, violate them, and get into heaven???

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On 2012-07-20, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>Yes it is. You couldn't do this in a public organization, so they need
>>to stop receiving public subsidies.
>>
>>Same with churches, they should pay their taxes like everyone else, and
>>every other organization.
>
> Churches pay exactly the taxes they are required to, just like everybody else.

> [...]

They are exempt from taxes, they shouldn't be.

http://taxthechurches.org/

> All businesses are allowed business and operational deductions, and charitable
> deductions. If others have to give up their government IRS benefits, you too
> should have to give up your mortgage deductions and charitable (cough, cough)
> deductions.

If I got 100% of my tax back, yes I should give that up, it would be
unfair.

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True, and it as cited to you. They threatening US politicians with
excommunication if they didn't vote they way the Church wanted them to.

You ignored it, as usual! ;-)

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On 2012-07-20, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>It's subsided by the public.
>>
>>They get free use of government offices and property. Often they are
>>only charged token rent for their office ($1).
>>
>>They need to start paying full charge for all public facilities if they
>>want to start taking political stands.
>
> Queers are dysfunctional. They go against the standards of life established by
> the Scouts. Hence the Scouts have the right to reject them.

Says you, the scouts need to accept them or stop accepting public
subsidies. They better make their mind up.

> [...]

> Queers go against God, are morally crooked, and not reverent (in practice). The
> Scouts have the right to reject them.

You go against God with your lying and hating.

Did Jesus speak against homosexuals??

Right now, the homosexuals are looking like better Christians than you!
:-)

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[Mike Lovell]

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On 2012-07-20, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>> Do as I say, butt-wipe.
>>
>> Exactly...
>>
>> "Do as I say, not as I do"
>>
>> You cannot be a Christian (of any denomination) if you don't love your
>> neighbor or follow the teachings of Jesus.
>

> No.......
> you can't.
> I can do anything I like.

Ah I see, you can ignore and violate the teachings of Jesus and remain a
Christian? Crap.

You've just resigned from the Church above.

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[Melzzzzz]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:25:02 -0500
Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote:

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> On 2012-07-20, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>It's subsided by the public.
> >>
> >>They get free use of government offices and property. Often they
> >>are only charged token rent for their office ($1).
> >>
> >>They need to start paying full charge for all public facilities if
> >>they want to start taking political stands.
> >
> > Queers are dysfunctional. They go against the standards of life
> > established by the Scouts. Hence the Scouts have the right to
> > reject them.
>
> Says you, the scouts need to accept them or stop accepting public
> subsidies. They better make their mind up.
>
> > [...]
> > Queers go against God, are morally crooked, and not reverent (in
> > practice). The Scouts have the right to reject them.
>
> You go against God with your lying and hating.
>
> Did Jesus speak against homosexuals??
>
> Right now, the homosexuals are looking like better Christians than
> you! :-)
>

Old testament says that gays should be put to death.

Leviticus

Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13

[Mike Lovell]

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On 2012-07-20, Melzzzzz <m...@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>> Says you, the scouts need to accept them or stop accepting public
>> subsidies. They better make their mind up.
>>
>> > [...]
>> > Queers go against God, are morally crooked, and not reverent (in
>> > practice). The Scouts have the right to reject them.
>>
>> You go against God with your lying and hating.
>>
>> Did Jesus speak against homosexuals??
>>
>> Right now, the homosexuals are looking like better Christians than
>> you! :-)
>>
> Old testament says that gays should be put to death.
>
> Leviticus
>
> Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
> If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13

That I know, but seeing as most people ignore the other laws of
Leviticus, why should they arbitrarily apply that one?

As they tuck into their pork sausages and wear their two different types
of cloth --- EVIL!!

I know for sure Duke virtually lives on sausages and pork pies.
Although not for too much longer judging on his physical condition.

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[Melzzzzz]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:47:36 -0500
Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote:

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> On 2012-07-20, Melzzzzz <m...@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> >> Says you, the scouts need to accept them or stop accepting public
> >> subsidies. They better make their mind up.
> >>
> >> > [...]
> >> > Queers go against God, are morally crooked, and not reverent (in
> >> > practice). The Scouts have the right to reject them.
> >>
> >> You go against God with your lying and hating.
> >>
> >> Did Jesus speak against homosexuals??
> >>
> >> Right now, the homosexuals are looking like better Christians than
> >> you! :-)
> >>
> > Old testament says that gays should be put to death.
> >
> > Leviticus
> >
> > Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
> > If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
>
> That I know, but seeing as most people ignore the other laws of
> Leviticus, why should they arbitrarily apply that one?

I think that any law from Bible shouldn't be applied ;)

>
> As they tuck into their pork sausages and wear their two different
> types of cloth --- EVIL!!

;)

>
> I know for sure Duke virtually lives on sausages and pork pies.
> Although not for too much longer judging on his physical condition.
>

Christianity allows eating of pork ;)

[Mike Lovell]

Leviticus doesn't. So I don't see why they apply it so inconsistently.

Well I do to be honest, hate and minority bashing.

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[Melzzzzz]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:05:03 -0500
Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote:

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> On 2012-07-20, Melzzzzz <m...@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> >> >> You go against God with your lying and hating.
> >> >>
> >> >> Did Jesus speak against homosexuals??
> >> >>
> >> >> Right now, the homosexuals are looking like better Christians
> >> >> than you! :-)
> >> >>
> >> > Old testament says that gays should be put to death.
> >> >
> >> > Leviticus
> >> >
> >> > Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
> >> > If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
> >>
> >> That I know, but seeing as most people ignore the other laws of
> >> Leviticus, why should they arbitrarily apply that one?
> >
> > I think that any law from Bible shouldn't be applied ;)
> >
> >>
> >> As they tuck into their pork sausages and wear their two different
> >> types of cloth --- EVIL!!
> >
> > ;)
> >
> >>
> >> I know for sure Duke virtually lives on sausages and pork pies.
> >> Although not for too much longer judging on his physical condition.
> >>
> > Christianity allows eating of pork ;)
>
> Leviticus doesn't. So I don't see why they apply it so
> inconsistently.

I don;t think anyone apply Leviticus these days ;)

>
> Well I do to be honest, hate and minority bashing.

Look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philokalia
In this book there is guide for monk celibates
and there you should clearly see homosexuality/pedophile
problems with monk celibates.
One of of instructions is "never socialize with a boy",
"don;t get close to boy", "don;t touch your mate "
"don;t ever get close to woman don't ever lay with anyone
even your father and brother in same bad but if you must than with
great fear" etc...
Even that homosexuality was known problems from early Christianity
(4th - 5th century), they dislike homosexuals ;)


>

[Patrick]

"Mike Lovell" <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote in message

news:slrnk0jc1b....@usenet.home.b0h0.com...

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> On 2012-07-20, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>> "Christopher A. Lee" <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote
>>
>>> And that's its own fault for interfering in the democratic process by
>>> threatening to withhold communion from MPs who didn't vote the way the
>>> RCC wanted them to.
>>> They tried the same thing in the US too.
>>
>> And another one.
>> Give it up, cwissy.
>
> True, and it as cited to you. They threatening US politicians with
> excommunication if they didn't vote they way the Church wanted them to.

That is a lie.
Plus, you are stupid for making the lie up.

> You ignored it, as usual! ;-)

I ignore a lot of stupid shit that you say.
If I decided to address every lie you spewed, I'd be busy all day.

[Mike Lovell]

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On 2012-07-20, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>> True, and it as cited to you. They threatening US politicians with
>> excommunication if they didn't vote they way the Church wanted them to.
>
> That is a lie.
> Plus, you are stupid for making the lie up.

I've provided it before to you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_politicians,_abortion_and_communion_or_excommunication

>
>> You ignored it, as usual! ;-)
>
> I ignore a lot of stupid shit that you say.
> If I decided to address every lie you spewed, I'd be busy all day.

You ignore it because it contradicts your own words.

You claim it never happened, I cite that it did, you run away.

And you are busy running away all day! :-)

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[Christopher A. Lee]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:52:48 -0500, Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com>
wrote:

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>On 2012-07-20, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>> True, and it as cited to you. They threatening US politicians with
>>> excommunication if they didn't vote they way the Church wanted them to.
>>
>> That is a lie.
>> Plus, you are stupid for making the lie up.
>
>I've provided it before to you.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_politicians,_abortion_and_communion_or_excommunication

It doesn't fit his rose-tinted view of the RCC so vanishes due to
cognitive dissonance.

>>> You ignored it, as usual! ;-)
>>
>> I ignore a lot of stupid shit that you say.
>> If I decided to address every lie you spewed, I'd be busy all day.
>
>You ignore it because it contradicts your own words.

He ignores it because it's part of a conspiracy to discredit the RCC
and then it vanishes due to contrive dissonance as if it hadn't been
explained and backed up repeatedly.

>You claim it never happened, I cite that it did, you run away.
>
>And you are busy running away all day! :-)

Religion has turned him into a narcissist who needs to say anything
however incorrect. It's meant to shut us up but being a narcissist he
can't understand why it doesn't.

[Patrick]

"Mike Lovell" <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote

> Patrick wrote:

>>>> No, I don't belong to any of your fag groups.
>>>
>>>You're no longer a Catholic?
>>>Congratulations.
>>
>> I think you missed the obvious message.
>
> He said he doesn't belong to a fag group.
> That includes the Catholic Church, so he's claiming he's no longer a
> Catholic. Interesting.

Gosh, mikey....
You really are stupid, aren't you?
I'm afraid you are far below the dignity of a serious answer.
You are dismissed.

[Patrick]

"Mike Lovell" <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote >

> On 2012-07-20, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:

>>> True, and it as cited to you. They threatening US politicians with
>>> excommunication if they didn't vote they way the Church wanted them to.
>>
>> That is a lie.
>> Plus, you are stupid for making the lie up.
>
> I've provided it before to you.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_politicians,_abortion_and_communion_or_excommunication

Again, you have twisted the truth.
Bishops have NEVER threatened any politican
with excommunication if a he did not vote the
way the church wants them to.

Politicians have been informed about the sin of abortion.
" Those few bishops who support denying communion to
pro-choice Catholic legislators interpret canon 915 as justifying
such action."
If a poitician aids and assists another person in obtaining
an abortion, then he could be excommunicated.

This is a big difference from demanding a politician
vote "the way they want."

Sure, you can interpret it that way.
But then, you are stupid, and that is how all catholic bashers
think and act.

[Patrick]

"Christopher A. Lee" <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote ...

> , Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com>> wrote:

>>>> True, and it as cited to you. They threatening US politicians with
>>>> excommunication if they didn't vote they way the Church wanted them to.
>>>
>>> That is a lie.
>>> Plus, you are stupid for making the lie up.
>>
>>I've provided it before to you.
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_politicians,_abortion_and_communion_or_excommunication
>
> It doesn't fit his rose-tinted view of the RCC so vanishes due to
> cognitive dissonance.

The Church has never told politicians how to vote.
The church merely lays out what is right and what is wrong.
If a politician decides to allow abortion, then he no
longer wishes to belong to the catholic boys club.
And, he can officially resign, or just not return.

Just as any private organization, there is certain trash you
don't wish to pretend to espouse your interests when you
are obviously not following the rules established.

[Patrick]

"Mike Lovell" <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote

>
> Either you're getting into heaven or not. You can ignore the teachings
> of Jesus, violate them, and get into heaven???

Sorry, mikey.....
you are not capable of observing the truth.
You are dismissed.
Go someplace else and spew your hatred.

[Patrick]

".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote \

And even the best therapists agree that they do not "cure" anyone.
It is up to the victim himself -- when he wishes to move on with his life.
Some drunk driver hit me on my bicycle whe I was 11 years old.
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I hate drunk drivers. I hate Ford Motor Company. They built that
Ford Galaxies that smashed me. I hate 5th avenues north because
that is where the perp lived. I hate the judge who didn't send him to jail.
I hate Budwieser. They ALLOWED him to harm me.
I hate his insurance company (Allstate) because they limited the amount
of money to allow me to purchase a new bike. I picked one out at
Sears for $53.00, and Alstate wouldn't go over $ 50.00.
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

This is what "VICTIMS" do........
They whine about what happened to them.
They blame everyone and everything besides the actual perp.

I wonder if any of the perpetual "victims" ever grow up?

[herbert glazier]

On Jul 21, 7:34 am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
> ".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote \
>

Bud is in. AllState is 100% Mafia. Ford cars kill by fire. Think
Pinto. Only poor people go to jail. Mafia owns all USA prisons.
TreBert

[Hugh G. Rection]

"Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>"Mike Lovell" <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote in message
>news:slrnk0jc1b....@usenet.home.b0h0.com...

>> On 2012-07-20, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>> "Christopher A. Lee" <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote
>>>> And that's its own fault for interfering in the democratic process by
>>>> threatening to withhold communion from MPs who didn't vote the way the
>>>> RCC wanted them to.
>>>> They tried the same thing in the US too.
>>> And another one.
>>> Give it up, cwissy.
>> True, and it as cited to you. They threatening US politicians with
>> excommunication if they didn't vote they way the Church wanted them to.
>That is a lie.

Another FOX "News" Syndrome rightard, I see. Wotta surprise this
shitbag pedophile cult follower doesn't know about it.

---
There are no zombies in California. Nothing to feed on.

[duke]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 09:39:35 -0700, Christopher A. Lee
<chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:16:12 +0100, Alan Ferris
><hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
>>On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 05:52:09 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>Same with churches, they should pay their taxes like everyone else, and
>>>>every other organization.
>>>
>>>Churches pay exactly the taxes they are required to, just like everybody else.

>>>All businesses are allowed business and operational deductions, and charitable
>>>deductions. If others have to give up their government IRS benefits, you too
>>>should have to give up your mortgage deductions and charitable (cough, cough)
>>>deductions.
>>

>>Charitable organisation are not allowed to use their funds to pursue political
>>aspirations, the Catholic Church does and is already under investigation in the
>>UK over this and could loose it charitable status.

>
>And that's its own fault for interfering in the democratic process by
>threatening to withhold communion from MPs who didn't vote the way the
>RCC wanted them to.

Nope, the Church is highly sensitive about not politicking from the pulpit.

>They tried the same thing in the US too.

The US is exactly where they don't politic form the pulpit..

The dukester, American - American
********************************************
A vote for obama is a vote for the end of
democracy in America as we know it. Let the
rolling thunder guide your decision at the
ballot box to put an end to Imperial Obama.
May God bless America.
********************************************

[Alan Ferris]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 07:23:40 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:

>>>I've provided it before to you.
>>>
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_politicians,_abortion_and_communion_or_excommunication
>>
>> It doesn't fit his rose-tinted view of the RCC so vanishes due to
>> cognitive dissonance.
>
>The Church has never told politicians how to vote.

Bishop tells MPs to vote against human cloning
http://archive.catholicherald.co.uk/article/15th-june-2007/4/bishop-tells-mps-to-vote-against-human-cloning

The Internal Revenue Service should investigate the Catholic Diocese of Peoria
for illegal electioneering after Bishop Daniel R. Jenky compared Barack Obama to
Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin as part of an election-year appeal, says
Americans United for Separation of Church and State.
http://www.au.org/media/press-releases/irs-should-investigate-catholic-diocese-for-illegal-election-intervention-says

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"+ Everyone picks on me and I want to stay in the game, but
+ I don't want to play by the rules.. Waaahhhhh!"

"+ Why can't you leave me alone?"

"+ Make them stop...."

"+ Please, make them stop."

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa...."

"wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

- Patrick Barker
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[duke]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:22:05 -0500, Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote:

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>On 2012-07-20, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>Yes it is. You couldn't do this in a public organization, so they need
>>>to stop receiving public subsidies.
>>>
>>>Same with churches, they should pay their taxes like everyone else, and
>>>every other organization.
>>
>> Churches pay exactly the taxes they are required to, just like everybody else.
>> [...]

>They are exempt from taxes, they shouldn't be.

No, they are not exempt from paying taxes. Put simply, you tax, the Church can
politic from the pulpit. Now that **I'd ** like.

In its 1970 opinion in Walz vs. Tax Commission of the City of New York, the high
court stated that a tax exemption for churches "creates only a minimal and
remote involvement between church and state and far less than taxation of
churches. [An exemption] restricts the fiscal relationship between church and
state, and tends to complement and reinforce the desired separation insulating
each from the other." The Supreme Court also said that "the power to tax
involves the power to destroy." Taxing churches breaks down the healthy
separation of church and state and leads to the destruction of the free exercise
of religion.

>> All businesses are allowed business and operational deductions, and charitable
>> deductions. If others have to give up their government IRS benefits, you too
>> should have to give up your mortgage deductions and charitable (cough, cough)
>> deductions.
>
>If I got 100% of my tax back, yes I should give that up, it would be
>unfair.

They don't get 100% of their money back. Most of the money they take in goes
back out in charity. Or haven't you figured out what a Catholic Church does.

[duke]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:25:02 -0500, Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote:

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>On 2012-07-20, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>It's subsided by the public.
>>>
>>>They get free use of government offices and property. Often they are
>>>only charged token rent for their office ($1).
>>>
>>>They need to start paying full charge for all public facilities if they
>>>want to start taking political stands.
>>
>> Queers are dysfunctional. They go against the standards of life established by
>> the Scouts. Hence the Scouts have the right to reject them.

>Says you, the scouts need to accept them or stop accepting public
>subsidies. They better make their mind up.

They did - no queers.

[duke]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:19:22 -0500, Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote:

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>On 2012-07-20, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hate, hate, hate.
>>>>> I'm really confused on Christianity now. I keep getting told it's the
>>>>> religion of love only to have it immediately contradicted by the
>>>>> behavior of its followers.
>>>>
>>>> Do as I say, butt-wipe.
>>>
>>>Exactly...
>>>
>>> "Do as I say, not as I do"
>>>
>>>You cannot be a Christian (of any denomination) if you don't love your
>>>neighbor or follow the teachings of Jesus.
>>
>> Correction, you're still a Christian but one that might be considered to be
>> faltering. Jesus teaches us to avoid "an eye for an eye", but he didn't tell us
>> not to take a defensive posture.
>>
>> Your never having been exposed to Christianity, you wouldn't know that. However,
>> even many Jews, Muslims and communists understand better than you do.

>Oh I see, so what's the point of following any of the rules?

The rules are not what you think they are. That's why you're an atheist wannabe
- void of knowledge.

>Either you're getting into heaven or not. You can ignore the teachings
>of Jesus, violate them, and get into heaven???

Heeheehee. I let you figure that one out.

[duke]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:19:47 -0500, Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote:

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>On 2012-07-20, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>>>> [...] kick the fags out. [...] Some lesbo [...]
>>>> Tell the lesbo [...]

>>>
>>>Hate, hate, hate.
>>>
>>>I'm really confused on Christianity now. I keep getting told it's the
>>>religion of love only to have it immediately contradicted by the
>>>behavior of its followers.
>>>

>>>Oh hypocrisy! :-)
>>
>> There's no hypocrisy in correcting your own ugliness.
>
>More hate! Oh hypocrisy.

One good turn deserves another.

[duke]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:17:17 -0500, Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote:

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>On 2012-07-20, Patrick <bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>>> Keeping fags off the admission roles is not a political statement.
>>>> Fags trying to join private organizations IS a political stand.

>>>
>>> Yes it is. You couldn't do this in a public organization, so they need
>>> to stop receiving public subsidies.
>>

>><yawn>
>> So do you.
>
>Like?

>
>>> Same with churches, they should pay their taxes like everyone else, and
>>> every other organization.
>>

>> Why?
>> Do churches owe tax?
>
>They should start paying tax like very other organization.

And then comes the politicking from the pulpit. Gosh, I'd love that.