The nightmare has arrived!

[Paul Duca]

At least one of the innumerable ones for many on these groups...the
Census Bureau has announced that in 2011, racial and ethnic minorities
made up more than 50% of the births in the U.S.


Paul

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <dfb4c0d6-60ef-4787...@w16g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,

Yes, but, luckily (*), whites still control most of the wealth. There
should be a population statistic that is something along the lines of
"person-dollars". I've never seen something like that, but it should be
relatively easy to construct it; I'll get back to ya (**). Obviously, in
terms of this new statistic, whites are still heavily the majority, but it
will be fun to watch this change over the next few hundred years (if we live
that long).
=============

(*) Yes, I'm being facetious. I know many of the rightwingers will assume
this is serious.

(**) Channelling sister Sara.

--
Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as foolish,
and by the rulers as useful.

(Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)

[Billary]

On May 17, 8:51 am, gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack)
wrote:
> In article <dfb4c0d6-60ef-4787-9f91-c413dd8b1...@w16g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,

But by extension minorities control all of the spending!

[David Hartung]

Why is this a nightmare?

[• R. L. Measures.]

In article
<dfb4c0d6-60ef-4787...@w16g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, Paul
Duca <paul....@gmail.com> wrote:

• so when will Anglo-Saxons fully qualify as a racial minority?

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

[• R. L. Measures.]

In article <T8ednU_7S78LaynS...@giganews.com>, David Hartung

• it spawns paranoia amoung the ruling class?

[Ted Parvo]

Looks like your chances of getting a job are pretty much fucked.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

David,

Let's say that 1/3 of Conservatives are racists. Look at your left,
then look at your right. They are not racists, you say? Oh, brother!
Well, guess who is then...

-Ramon

Note: That was an example. We all know that you are one of the good
ones. The GOP should be proud to have more people like you and less
human garbage, like most of the righties who post around here.

[C...@prayforme.com]

On Thu, 17 May 2012 06:52:32 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

>In article <T8ednU_7S78LaynS...@giganews.com>, David Hartung
><da...@hotmaiil.com> wrote:
>
>>On 05/17/2012 06:36 AM, Paul Duca wrote:
>>> At least one of the innumerable ones for many on these groups...the
>>> Census Bureau has announced that in 2011, racial and ethnic minorities
>>> made up more than 50% of the births in the U.S.
>>
>>Why is this a nightmare?
>
>• it spawns paranoia amoung the ruling class?

One only has to look at the history of South Africa, Apartheid and
Black flash mobs in America to see the paranoia is justified.

Especially since Liberals have instilled the idea of permanent Black
disenfranchisement by Whites.

We'll know just how much paranoia is justified when George Zimmerman
is found innocent of 2nd Degree Murder based on physical EVIDENCE of
Trayvon's knuckles and Zimmerman's injuries.

The New Black Panthers and Eric Holder are buddies

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 17, 7:51 am, gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack)
wrote:

> whites are still heavily the majority, but it will be
> fun to watch this change over the next few hundred years
> (if we live that long).
> =============

Hundred years!!?? A am afraid it will happen (it IS happening) much
sooner. See the case of Harley Davidson, for instance. Like Santa in
August, the future arrived early for Harley:

"Harley's core customer is a middle-aged white American male, a group
that will contract in the coming decade. As one blogger wrote, "The
60-70-year old riders have trouble lifting a leg over the seat because
of arthritis. And finger joints hurt with the cold air and engine
vibration." Women represent just 11% of Harley buyers, and penetration
in the African-American and Hispanic markets is similarly limited."

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/17/autos/harley_davidson_fall.fortune/

Bikers tend to be baggers, BTW.

-Ramon

[• R. L. Measures.]

In article <gq3ar7tgot6im8dpf...@4ax.com>,

• _____

[C...@prayforme.com]

On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:23:09 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:53:48 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 17 May 2012 06:52:32 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <T8ednU_7S78LaynS...@giganews.com>, David Hartung
>>><da...@hotmaiil.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 05/17/2012 06:36 AM, Paul Duca wrote:
>>>>> At least one of the innumerable ones for many on these groups...the
>>>>> Census Bureau has announced that in 2011, racial and ethnic minorities
>>>>> made up more than 50% of the births in the U.S.
>>>>
>>>>Why is this a nightmare?
>>>
>>>• it spawns paranoia amoung the ruling class?
>>
>>One only has to look at the history of South Africa, Apartheid and
>>Black flash mobs in America to see the paranoia is justified.
>>
>>Especially since Liberals have instilled the idea of permanent Black
>>disenfranchisement by Whites.
>

>You mean like lynching, disfranchisement, segregation, Jim Crow,
>suppression, dogs, tear gas, police batons,
>discrimination---conservative things like that?

DimocRATs passed Jim Crow laws, George Wallace brought dogs in to bite
Blacks to break up racial demonstrations.

James Earl Ray was a DimocRAT, like you
...
His chief interest, however, was the George Wallace presidential
campaign. Ray harbored a strong prejudice against African Americans
and was quickly drawn to Wallace’s segregationist platform. He spent
much of his time in Los Angeles volunteering at the Wallace campaign
headquarters in North Hollywood.[7]
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_Ray

[C...@prayforme.com]

On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:23:59 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:53:48 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>

>>We'll know just how much paranoia is justified when George Zimmerman
>>is found innocent of 2nd Degree Murder based on physical EVIDENCE of
>>Trayvon's knuckles and Zimmerman's injuries.
>

>You still haven't managed to tell us how Zimmerloon could get injured
>if he stayed in his truck

It'll all come out when the Prosecutor drops all charges

[C...@prayforme.com]

On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:06:15 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:35:46 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:23:09 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
>
>>>>One only has to look at the history of South Africa, Apartheid and
>>>>Black flash mobs in America to see the paranoia is justified.
>>>>
>>>>Especially since Liberals have instilled the idea of permanent Black
>>>>disenfranchisement by Whites.
>>>
>>>You mean like lynching, disfranchisement, segregation, Jim Crow,
>>>suppression, dogs, tear gas, police batons,
>>>discrimination---conservative things like that?
>>
>>DimocRATs passed Jim Crow laws, George Wallace brought dogs in to bite
>>Blacks to break up racial demonstrations.
>

>All were CONSERVATIVES---like you

>
>>James Earl Ray was a DimocRAT, like you
>

>A conservative
>
>The DixieCrats became republicans, Barta
>
>Thurmond, Faircloth, Helms---all left the democratic party and
>continued their opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
>
>Now---what was your claim again?

You fergot that it was a Republican who freed slaves and Republicans
who passed the Civil Rights bill.

It were DimocRATs like KKK byrd and AlGore Sr. who fought AGAINST the
civil righs bill.

The Democrat Party invented Slavery and you know it. The Dim Party
voted against the civil Rights Bill of 1964, including AlGore Sr.

It was Joseph Story and Abe Lincoln who lead the charge to free the
slaves.

In 1857 the Dread Scott Decision that upheald Slavery, most of the
justices where DemocRAT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C91mfD_yM0

Jefferson Davis was the President of the Confederacy, before that he
was the leader of the DimocRATs in the US Senate!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C91mfD_yM0

After the Civil War the DimocRATs supported segregation! That's your
Party and the Party of Margaret Sanger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C91mfD_yM0

Woodrow Wilsdon was an open racist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C91mfD_yM0

Dixiecrats were the forefathers of the Democrat Party. The Party that
passed Jim Crow laws, segregation, Abortion and who made Margaret
Sanger the icon of Infanticide.

The Negro Project
Margaret Sanger's Eugenic Plan for Black Americans
http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/special_issues/population/the_negro_project.htm

[C...@prayforme.com]

On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:04:15 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>He was shot at "intermediate range", you moron.
>
>That means anywhere from 5-20 Feet.
>
>How could zimmerloon shoot him if he stayed in his truck?

WTF knows? I was going on what the news said. Some reports have
Zimmerman punched in the face while he was in his truck, then dragged
out.

Just wait, stupid and take it like a man

[• R. L. Measures.]

In article <aqqar7pfp3n09r9f4...@4ax.com>,

"C...@PrayForMe.com" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:06:15 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:35:46 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
>><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:23:09 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>One only has to look at the history of South Africa, Apartheid and
>>>>>Black flash mobs in America to see the paranoia is justified.
>>>>>
>>>>>Especially since Liberals have instilled the idea of permanent Black
>>>>>disenfranchisement by Whites.
>>>>
>>>>You mean like lynching, disfranchisement, segregation, Jim Crow,
>>>>suppression, dogs, tear gas, police batons,
>>>>discrimination---conservative things like that?
>>>
>>>DimocRATs passed Jim Crow laws, George Wallace brought dogs in to bite
>>>Blacks to break up racial demonstrations.
>>
>>All were CONSERVATIVES---like you
>>
>>>James Earl Ray was a DimocRAT, like you
>>
>>A conservative
>>
>>The DixieCrats became republicans, Barta
>>
>>Thurmond, Faircloth, Helms---all left the democratic party and
>>continued their opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
>>
>>Now---what was your claim again?
>

>You fergot that it was a Republican who freed slaves ...

• Lincoln was nothing like a Neo-con.

[linuxgal]

If the stereotypes are true, then no Republican will win, ever again,
because only white vote for them, and no one else.

[C...@prayforme.com]

On Thu, 17 May 2012 15:53:46 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2012 17:38:38 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"

><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:04:15 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:36:42 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
>>><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:23:59 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:53:48 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
>>>>><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We'll know just how much paranoia is justified when George Zimmerman
>>>>>>is found innocent of 2nd Degree Murder based on physical EVIDENCE of
>>>>>>Trayvon's knuckles and Zimmerman's injuries.
>>>>>
>>>>>You still haven't managed to tell us how Zimmerloon could get injured
>>>>>if he stayed in his truck
>>>>
>>>>It'll all come out when the Prosecutor drops all charges
>>>
>>>He was shot at "intermediate range", you moron.
>>>
>>>That means anywhere from 5-20 Feet.
>>>
>>>How could zimmerloon shoot him if he stayed in his truck?
>>
>>WTF knows? I was going on what the news said. Some reports have
>>Zimmerman punched in the face while he was in his truck, then dragged
>>out.
>

>He was NOT punched in the face in his truck.
>
>Dumb assholes like you who don't watch real news (from a
>variety)---are doomed to be stupid all their lives.
>
>The distance from Zimmerloons truck to the point he killed Martin is
>almost 200 yards, (no road) and had to be traversed by foot. He had
>to run to catch up with Martin---because Martin had passed him minutes
>before.
>
>By chasing Martin, he was the agressor.
>
>Zimmerloon was armed
>
>Martin was not.
>
>Martin knew HE was not armed---and a big idiot chasing him.
>
>Audio tapes CLEARLY show that Martin was screaming for help (and his
>life)

OK Al, what ever you say.

Be show to tell it to someone who cares like the NBP

[Mike Smith]

On Fri, 18 May 2012 02:28:40 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"

The fool is way too stupid to listen and understand facts.

Here are a few facts:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/cops-witnesses-back-george-zimmermans-version/story?id=16371852#.T7YA8FLpySo
"Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and the back of his head,"
Officer Ricardo Ayala wrote.

Another officer wrote, "I saw that Zimmerman's face was bloodied and
it appeared to me that his nose was broken."

Witnesses, whose names were redacted from the report, also lent
support to Zimmerman's version of what happened.

"He witnesses a black male, wearing a dark colored 'hoodie' on top of
a white or Hispanic male and throwing punches 'MMA (mixed martial
arts) style,'" the police report of the witness said. "He then heard a
pop. He stated that after hearing the pop, he observed the person he
had previously observed on top of the other person (the male wearing
the hoodie) laid out on the grass."

A second witness described a person on the ground with another
straddling him and throwing punches. The man on the bottom was yelling
for help, the witness told police.

The documents state that Zimmerman can be heard yelling for help 14
times on a 911 call recorded during the fight.


Mike Smith

[� R. L. Measures.]

In article <IuudnSflRrpMJyjS...@giganews.com>, linuxgal

�� good point.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

Old Male whites, to be precise.

They are not stereotypes, they are statistics, demographics and
electoral math.

http://tinyurl.com/7d3l9cr

-Ramon

[duke]

On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:06:15 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:35:46 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:23:09 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
>
>>>>One only has to look at the history of South Africa, Apartheid and
>>>>Black flash mobs in America to see the paranoia is justified.
>>>>
>>>>Especially since Liberals have instilled the idea of permanent Black
>>>>disenfranchisement by Whites.
>>>
>>>You mean like lynching, disfranchisement, segregation, Jim Crow,
>>>suppression, dogs, tear gas, police batons,
>>>discrimination---conservative things like that?
>>
>>DimocRATs passed Jim Crow laws, George Wallace brought dogs in to bite
>>Blacks to break up racial demonstrations.
>

>All were CONSERVATIVES---like you

But they were ................'rats, or didn't you get it?


duke - American American

*****
2012 - end of an error
Vote Republican in 2012
*****

[Paul Duca]

On May 17, 5:38 pm, "C...@PrayForMe.com" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:04:15 -0600, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:36:42 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
> ><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>

> >>On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:23:59 -0600, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> >>>On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:53:48 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
> >>><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>We'll know just how much paranoia is justified when George Zimmerman
> >>>>is found innocent of 2nd Degree Murder based on physical EVIDENCE of
> >>>>Trayvon's knuckles and Zimmerman's injuries.
>
> >>>You still haven't managed to tell us how Zimmerloon could get injured
> >>>if he stayed in his truck
>
> >>It'll all come out when the Prosecutor drops all charges
>
> >He was shot at "intermediate range", you moron.
>
> >That means anywhere from 5-20 Feet.
>
> >How could zimmerloon shoot him if he stayed in his truck?
>
> WTF knows? I was going on what the news said. Some reports have
> Zimmerman punched in the face while he was in his truck, then dragged
> out.
>

> Just wait, stupid and take it like a man. That's what I say when I get someone face down....

[Paul Duca]

On May 18, 4:00 am, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 May 2012 02:28:40 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
>
>
>
> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

> >On Thu, 17 May 2012 15:53:46 -0600, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> >>On Thu, 17 May 2012 17:38:38 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
> >><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>

> >>>On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:04:15 -0600, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> >>>>On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:36:42 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
> >>>><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>

> Blacks are animals and must be exterminated...

>
> Mike Smith

[Paul Duca]

On May 17, 10:53 am, "C...@PrayForMe.com" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 May 2012 06:52:32 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
> wrote:
>

> >In article <T8ednU_7S78LaynSnZ2dnUVZ_radn...@giganews.com>, David Hartung

> ><da...@hotmaiil.com> wrote:
>
> >>On 05/17/2012 06:36 AM, Paul Duca wrote:
> >>> At least one of the innumerable ones for many on these groups...the
> >>> Census Bureau has announced that in 2011, racial and ethnic minorities
> >>> made up more than 50% of the births in the U.S.
>
> >>Why is this a nightmare?
>
> >•  it spawns paranoia amoung the ruling class?
>
> One only has to look at the history of South Africa, Apartheid and
> Black flash mobs in America to see the paranoia is justified.

Before we realized how good slavery was, and how STUPID we were

>
> Especially since Liberals have instilled the idea of permanent Black
> disenfranchisement by Whites.
>

While

[Paul Duca]

On May 18, 8:14 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:06:15 -0600, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:35:46 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
> ><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>

> >>On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:23:09 -0600, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> >>>>One only has to look at the history of South Africa, Apartheid and
> >>>>Black flash mobs in America to see the paranoia is justified.
>
> >>>>Especially since Liberals have instilled the idea of permanent Black
> >>>>disenfranchisement by Whites.
>
> >>>You mean like lynching, disfranchisement, segregation, Jim Crow,
> >>>suppression, dogs, tear gas, police batons,
> >>>discrimination---conservative things like that?
>
> >>DimocRATs passed Jim Crow laws, George Wallace brought dogs in to bite
> >>Blacks to break up racial demonstrations.
>
> >All were CONSERVATIVES---like you
>

> But they were ................'rats, or didn't you get it? Otherwise, how could we pretend Republicans LOVE blacks?
>
> duke - American American
>

[Paul Duca]

On May 17, 10:53 am, "C...@PrayForMe.com" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 17 May 2012 06:52:32 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
> wrote:
>

> >In article <T8ednU_7S78LaynSnZ2dnUVZ_radn...@giganews.com>, David Hartung

> ><da...@hotmaiil.com> wrote:
>
> >>On 05/17/2012 06:36 AM, Paul Duca wrote:
> >>> At least one of the innumerable ones for many on these groups...the
> >>> Census Bureau has announced that in 2011, racial and ethnic minorities
> >>> made up more than 50% of the births in the U.S.
>
> >>Why is this a nightmare?
>
> >•  it spawns paranoia amoung the ruling class?
>
> One only has to look at the history of South Africa, Apartheid and
> Black flash mobs in America to see the paranoia is justified.
>

> Before we realized how good slavery was for America, and how STUPID we were
> to get rid of it.
>

[Paul Duca]

On May 17, 10:53 am, "C...@PrayForMe.com" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 17 May 2012 06:52:32 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
> wrote:
>

> >In article <T8ednU_7S78LaynSnZ2dnUVZ_radn...@giganews.com>, David Hartung

> ><da...@hotmaiil.com> wrote:
>
> >>On 05/17/2012 06:36 AM, Paul Duca wrote:
> >>> At least one of the innumerable ones for many on these groups...the
> >>> Census Bureau has announced that in 2011, racial and ethnic minorities
> >>> made up more than 50% of the births in the U.S.
>
> >>Why is this a nightmare?
>
> >•  it spawns paranoia amoung the ruling class?
>
> One only has to look at the history of South Africa, Apartheid and
> Black flash mobs in America to see the paranoia is justified.
>
> Especially since Liberals have instilled the idea of permanent Black
> disenfranchisement by Whites.
>

> We Republicans tell blacks (and everyone else) that if they do menial jobs, they're GUARANTEED to become prosperous.
> If not, we tell them God meant them to be in that place, and they should be grateful to Him.

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <IuudnSflRrpMJyjS...@giganews.com>,
linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:

Indeed. 2012 is, obviously, their last stand. After they lose this one,
we'll probably never hear of them again. Ever heard of the Whigs?

--
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
~ Epicurus

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 17, 8:49 am, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

> •  so when will Anglo-Saxons fully qualify as a racial minority?

Second half of this century:

http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Having-Babies.png
http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/See-The-Future.png (upper left chart)

-Ramon

[Mike Smith]

On Fri, 18 May 2012 12:34:58 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com
(Kenny McCormack) wrote:

>In article <IuudnSflRrpMJyjS...@giganews.com>,
>linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>David Hartung wrote:
>>> On 05/17/2012 06:36 AM, Paul Duca wrote:
>>>> At least one of the innumerable ones for many on these groups...the
>>>> Census Bureau has announced that in 2011, racial and ethnic minorities
>>>> made up more than 50% of the births in the U.S.
>>>
>>> Why is this a nightmare?
>>
>>If the stereotypes are true, then no Republican will win, ever again,
>>because only white vote for them, and no one else.
>
>Indeed. 2012 is, obviously, their last stand. After they lose this one,
>we'll probably never hear of them again. Ever heard of the Whigs?

Libtards and their delusional fantasies are hilariously stupid.
This fool has forgotten 2010.

Mike Smith

[Ramon F Herrera]

On May 18, 8:11 am, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 May 2012 12:34:58 +0000 (UTC), gaze...@shell.xmission.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
> >In article <IuudnSflRrpMJyjSnZ2dnUVZ_tedn...@giganews.com>,

> >linuxgal  <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> >>David Hartung wrote:
> >>> On 05/17/2012 06:36 AM, Paul Duca wrote:
> >>>> At least one of the innumerable ones for many on these groups...the
> >>>> Census Bureau has announced that in 2011, racial and ethnic minorities
> >>>> made up more than 50% of the births in the U.S.
>
> >>> Why is this a nightmare?
>
> >>If the stereotypes are true, then no Republican will win, ever again,
> >>because only white vote for them, and no one else.
>
> >Indeed. 2012 is, obviously, their last stand.  After they lose this one,
> >we'll probably never hear of them again.  Ever heard of the Whigs?
>

> Libtards and their delusional fantasies are hilariously stupid.
> This fool has forgotten 2010.
>
> Mike Smith

Speaking of delusion: The folks working on a time machines just
announced they are having real serious problems. They are beginning to
suspect that your favorite invention and wet dream will be impossible
to achieve.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088763/

-Ramon

[C...@prayforme.com]

> You're a MF liar

[C...@prayforme.com]

>You're an unskilled day laborer who didn't graduate high skoo, Paul. You're GUARANTEED nothing in life except what you put into it. In your case you've done little and gotten less. It's how life works, Paul.

>> If not, we tell them God meant them to be in that place, and they should be grateful to Him.

>God has nothing to do with you being a loser in a menial job who envies people who did something with their lives, Paul.

>Black Liberation Theology started out with slaves freeing their spirit with faith in Jesus. Reverend Wright perverted that with his hatred for Whites and America.

>I'm free in my worship of the King while you're a slave to the lies you tell and the forgeries you post. You're a slave to your master, the Deceiver.

[C...@prayforme.com]

What a surprize when the mother of all shellackings takes place in
November.

All the polls point to a Oboobuh being stomped on electorially.

Of all polls, Foxnews has Obama up by a few points.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/

Dig deep into the polls and you'll find the participents where over
sampled to be Dims but yet still said they plan on voting for freedom
over Marxism...so to speak.

Go ahead, say something delusional.

[C...@prayforme.com]

On Fri, 18 May 2012 05:53:36 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 18, 8:11 am, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 18 May 2012 12:34:58 +0000 (UTC), gaze...@shell.xmission.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
> >In article <IuudnSflRrpMJyjSnZ2dnUVZ_tedn...@giganews.com>,

> >linuxgal  <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> >>David Hartung wrote:
> >>> On 05/17/2012 06:36 AM, Paul Duca wrote:
> >>>> At least one of the innumerable ones for many on these groups...the
> >>>> Census Bureau has announced that in 2011, racial and ethnic minorities
> >>>> made up more than 50% of the births in the U.S.
>
> >>> Why is this a nightmare?
>
> >>If the stereotypes are true, then no Republican will win, ever again,
> >>because only white vote for them, and no one else.
>
> >Indeed. 2012 is, obviously, their last stand.  After they lose this one,
> >we'll probably never hear of them again.  Ever heard of the Whigs?
>
> Libtards and their delusional fantasies are hilariously stupid.
> This fool has forgotten 2010.
>
> Mike Smith

Hey Mike,

The Wall Street Journal just called. They want to know when you are
going to publish your opposing article or academic paper. See below.

On the issue of immigration ALL minorities (Blacks, Jews, Gays,
LATINOS) are on the same side. The enemy is BIGOTRY, RACISM and HATE.

-Ramon

---------------------------

"If current Hispanic voting and demographic trends continue (*), as
early as 2020 the Republican party will be unable to get enough
electoral college votes to win another presidential election EVER"

- The Wall Street Journal, not quite a liberal rag

(*) The trends have accelerated, thanks to Arizona and the Tea Party.

http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Guns-R-Us.gif

Political pundits are trying to determine how long will it be between
the time Hispanics become a majority in Texas (already are, in
Houston) and the time the GOP ceases to be a national political party.

[Ramon F Herrera]

On May 18, 8:11 am, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 18 May 2012 12:34:58 +0000 (UTC), gaze...@shell.xmission.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
> >In article <IuudnSflRrpMJyjSnZ2dnUVZ_tedn...@giganews.com>,

> >linuxgal  <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> >>David Hartung wrote:
> >>> On 05/17/2012 06:36 AM, Paul Duca wrote:
> >>>> At least one of the innumerable ones for many on these groups...the
> >>>> Census Bureau has announced that in 2011, racial and ethnic minorities
> >>>> made up more than 50% of the births in the U.S.
>
> >>> Why is this a nightmare?
>
> >>If the stereotypes are true, then no Republican will win, ever again,
> >>because only white vote for them, and no one else.
>
> >Indeed. 2012 is, obviously, their last stand.  After they lose this one,
> >we'll probably never hear of them again.  Ever heard of the Whigs?
>
> Libtards and their delusional fantasies are hilariously stupid.
> This fool has forgotten 2010.
>
> Mike Smith

[some poster who agrees with Mike:]
> Go Mitt. Most legal mexican-americans hate the illegals too.

The illegals are their:

- spouses, significant others
- siblings
- relatives
- friends
- neighbors
- children's classmates
- co-workers
- church goers

Not unlike cancer, there in no laser scalpel to separate cancerous
cells from healthy "legal" ones.

Think bees. Go ahead and attack one.

http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Latinos-4-Romney.jpg

-Ramon

[bill clinton]

and TMs father said it wasn't his son screaming

[C...@prayforme.com]

Dims deepen into their delusion over that statement of fact

[C...@prayforme.com]

On Fri, 18 May 2012 11:57:20 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Fri, 18 May 2012 13:14:01 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Mike Smith
>>>
>>>and TMs father said it wasn't his son screaming
>>>
>>
>>
>>Dims deepen into their delusion over that statement of fact
>

>His mother did
>
>The witness (woman) who heard and saw the two said that Martin was the
>one being assaulted, and the bigger standing over him

Is she credible?

[C...@prayforme.com]

I traced your words to an Anderson Cooper interview of a woman who
said 'Zimmerman didn't act in self defence'.

This is a woman who according to Cooper gave a statement to poo'lees
corroborating Zimmerman's story.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/anderson-cooper-interviews-witnesses-to-trayvon-martin-shooting/
Play clip

Any witness who gives an opinion of what happened rather than what she
actually saw isn't credible.

The witness also said Zimmerman looked to be giving Trayvon first aid

I can understand why you didn't provide a link

[• R. L. Measures.]

In article
<6c645f87-329f-4eec...@eh4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,

"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:

>On May 17, 8:49=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95 R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
> > =95 =A0so when will Anglo-Saxons fully qualify as a racial minority?

>
>Second half of this century:
>

** tnx

>http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Having-Babies.png
>http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/See-The-Future.png (upper left chart)
>
>-Ramon

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

[Mike Smith]

You libtards and your emotionally-based delusional fantasies are
hilariously stupid.

Mike Smith

[Mike Smith]

You do not comprehend English very well, do you...

Mike Smith

[duke]

On Fri, 18 May 2012 10:06:12 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Fri, 18 May 2012 07:14:38 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>All were CONSERVATIVES---like you
>>
>>But they were ................'rats, or didn't you get it?
>

>SO----you're saying that Conservatives were the shithole ideology even
>in the 19th century--as they are today?

Strawman.

>Why did you allow those "democrat conservatives" to become your
>leadership in the late 60's and 70's??
>Helms, Thurmond, Faircloth, Barr, etc?

You said George Wallace.

George Corley Wallace (August 25, 1919 – September 13, 1998) was an American
politician and the 45th governor of Alabama, having served four nonconsecutive
terms: 1963–1967, 1971–1979 and 1983–1987. After four runs for U.S. president
(three as a Democrat and one on the American Independent Party ticket), he
earned the title, "the most influential loser" in 20th-century U.S. politics,
according to biographers Dan T. Carter[1] and Stephan Lesher.[2]


duke - American American

*****
2012 - end of an error
Vote Republican in 2012
*****

[Al]

In article <rL-170512...@10.0.1.3>, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

> In article <aqqar7pfp3n09r9f4...@4ax.com>,
> "C...@PrayForMe.com" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:06:15 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:35:46 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
> >><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

> >>
> >>>On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:23:09 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>One only has to look at the history of South Africa, Apartheid and
> >>>>>Black flash mobs in America to see the paranoia is justified.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Especially since Liberals have instilled the idea of permanent Black
> >>>>>disenfranchisement by Whites.
> >>>>

> >>>>You mean like lynching, disfranchisement, segregation, Jim Crow,
> >>>>suppression, dogs, tear gas, police batons,
> >>>>discrimination---conservative things like that?
> >>>
> >>>DimocRATs passed Jim Crow laws, George Wallace brought dogs in to bite
> >>>Blacks to break up racial demonstrations.
> >>
> >>All were CONSERVATIVES---like you
> >>
> >>>James Earl Ray was a DimocRAT, like you
> >>
> >>A conservative
> >>
> >>The DixieCrats became republicans, Barta
> >>
> >>Thurmond, Faircloth, Helms---all left the democratic party and
> >>continued their opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
> >>
> >>Now---what was your claim again?
> >
> >You fergot that it was a Republican who freed slaves ...
>
> • Lincoln was nothing like a Neo-con.

Well, 50 million Muslims who lived under oppressive regimes who now have a
struggling democracy might see a bit of old Abe in those neocons.

[Al]

In article <ogcfr752upauit50d...@4ax.com>,
Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:29:05 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> >>The DixieCrats became republicans, Barta
> >> >>
> >> >>Thurmond, Faircloth, Helms---all left the democratic party and
> >> >>continued their opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
> >> >>
> >> >>Now---what was your claim again?
> >> >
> >> >You fergot that it was a Republican who freed slaves ...
> >>
> >> � Lincoln was nothing like a Neo-con.
> >
> >Well, 50 million Muslims who lived under oppressive regimes who now have a
> >struggling democracy might see a bit of old Abe in those neocons.
>

> Yes, liberal/progressive policies are/were a god-send against the
> thuggery, and racism of conservatives.



Then it's a great thing American liberals were so eager to liberate these
Muslims, even though they would be condemned and attacked by American
conservatives - who would take to the streets to demand the jailing of these
glorious liberal leaders who fought so hard for their progressive Muslim
brothers!

But, errr... we're having a little trouble finding out exactly who these
liberators are, what a modest bunch - but I think one of them was Harry
"this war is lost" Reid, the Mormon guy.

[� R. L. Measures.]

In article <albert.finney000-5B...@news.giganews.com>, Al

� Hardly a good bet. In Islam slavery is okay.

[Al]

In article <rL-190512...@10.0.1.3>, r...@somis.org (� R. L. Measures.)

There's a school of thought that suggests some people are better served by a
dictatorship in many ways, that may be true for much of Islam, considering
the idea of democracy is against the tenets of the faith.

But there's also a reformist school, which includes Bush, the neocons and
Islamic liberals.

Only time will tell if liberal Islam can survive. I think it can, but not in
the mid-east, and increasingly, not in Europe.

[� R. L. Measures.]

In article <albert.finney000-13...@news.giganews.com>, Al

� Good point. Since the Qur'an is such a hodgepodge, Muslim "holy men"
relish it because they can pick and choose to suit their own agendas.

>
>But there's also a reformist school, which includes Bush, the neocons and
>Islamic liberals.
>
>Only time will tell if liberal Islam can survive. I think it can, but not in
>the mid-east, and increasingly, not in Europe.

� so it seems. "�religion must be the cause of unity, harmony and
agreement among mankind. If it be the cause of discord and hostility, if
it leads to separation and creates conflict, the absence of religion would
be preferable in the world." --`Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith, page 247.

[Al]

> • so it seems. "Šreligion must be the cause of unity, harmony and

> agreement among mankind. If it be the cause of discord and hostility, if
> it leads to separation and creates conflict, the absence of religion would
> be preferable in the world." --`Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith, page 247.

It's hard to envision a society based on the absence of something, the
vacuum will be filled.

I figger it might be not a lot different than religious societies, people
pursuing their own interests and unifying around tribal mores that further
those interests.

[� R. L. Measures.]

In article <albert.finney000-9E...@news.giganews.com>, Al

>> � so it seems. "�religion must be the cause of unity, harmony and

>> agreement among mankind. If it be the cause of discord and hostility, if
>> it leads to separation and creates conflict, the absence of religion would
>> be preferable in the world." --`Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith, page 247.
>
>
>It's hard to envision a society based on the absence of something, the
>vacuum will be filled.
>
>I figger it might be not a lot different than religious societies, people
>pursuing their own interests and unifying around tribal mores that further
>those interests.

� Alas, how true. In Nigeria there are accredited schools that teach
humans how to scam other humans.

[• R. L. Measures.]

In article <3tpgr7pfabbe4u47p...@4ax.com>,
Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Sat, 19 May 2012 12:46:57 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
>wrote:

>
>>> >
>>> >Well, 50 million Muslims who lived under oppressive regimes who now have a
>>> >struggling democracy might see a bit of old Abe in those neocons.
>>>
>>> • Hardly a good bet. In Islam slavery is okay.
>>
>>There's a school of thought that suggests some people are better served by a
>>dictatorship in many ways,
>

>That's what all racists claim

• An good dictator is totally immune to influence and bribery -- unlike
our Congress.

[Alan Ferris]

On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:18:50 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

>>There's a school of thought that suggests some people are better served by a
>>dictatorship in many ways, that may be true for much of Islam, considering
>>the idea of democracy is against the tenets of the faith.
>
>• Good point. Since the Qur'an is such a hodgepodge, Muslim "holy men"
>relish it because they can pick and choose to suit their own agendas.

You mean like Christians do with the bible?

--
Ferrit

()'.'.'()
( (T) )
( ) . ( )
(")_(")

[duke]

On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:45:27 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:27:24 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 18 May 2012 10:06:12 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
>
>>>SO----you're saying that Conservatives were the shithole ideology even
>>>in the 19th century--as they are today?
>>
>>Strawman.
>

>Of course not.

Of course.

>You're arguing what a party (or part of it) embraced in the 19th
>century and in the south for most of the 20th

False conclusion.

>You refer to "party"---and don't want to accept that the IDEOLOGY that
>the party (democrats) embraced came from the hatred of northern
>progressive/liberals of that era.

>Today, the "Party" (republican) is a compilation of what those former
>democrats (party) believed (ideology), coupled with the dregs of some
>othe "isms".

>So--a "strawman" it is not.

False conclusion.

>>>Why did you allow those "democrat conservatives" to become your
>>>leadership in the late 60's and 70's??
>>>Helms, Thurmond, Faircloth, Barr, etc?

>>You said George Wallace.

>Wallace believed and accepted what Thurmond, Helms, Faircloth, Dukes,
>Lott, and the southern dixiecrats did. They became the leadership of
>your party.

George Wallace was a 'rat.

BTW, if you wish to start a new thread, fine, but at least give me the benefit
of copying the past comments.

[duke]

On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:46:46 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:29:05 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>

>>> >>The DixieCrats became republicans, Barta
>>> >>
>>> >>Thurmond, Faircloth, Helms---all left the democratic party and
>>> >>continued their opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
>>> >>
>>> >>Now---what was your claim again?
>>> >
>>> >You fergot that it was a Republican who freed slaves ...
>>>
>>> • Lincoln was nothing like a Neo-con.
>>
>>Well, 50 million Muslims who lived under oppressive regimes who now have a
>>struggling democracy might see a bit of old Abe in those neocons.
>

>Yes, liberal/progressive policies are/were a god-send against the
>thuggery, and racism of conservatives.

You mean like giving marriage rights to queers?

[duke]

On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:37:08 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:22:42 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
>wrote:

>
>>> >Well, 50 million Muslims who lived under oppressive regimes who now have a
>>> >struggling democracy might see a bit of old Abe in those neocons.
>>>
>>> Yes, liberal/progressive policies are/were a god-send against the
>>> thuggery, and racism of conservatives.
>>
>>
>>
>>Then it's a great thing American liberals were so eager to liberate these
>>Muslims, even though they would be condemned and attacked by American
>>conservatives - who would take to the streets to demand the jailing of these
>>glorious liberal leaders who fought so hard for their progressive Muslim
>>brothers!
>

>What the fuck kind of babbling is that?

He nailed you.

[Al]

In article <3tpgr7pfabbe4u47p...@4ax.com>,

Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Sat, 19 May 2012 12:46:57 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> >

> >> >Well, 50 million Muslims who lived under oppressive regimes who now have
> >> >a
> >> >struggling democracy might see a bit of old Abe in those neocons.
> >>
> >> • Hardly a good bet. In Islam slavery is okay.
> >
> >There's a school of thought that suggests some people are better served by a
> >dictatorship in many ways,
>

> That's what all racists claim

And it was one of the left's primary argument against the invasion of Iraq,
oddly enough.

Fidel Castro is a communist dictator, and is deeply admired and respected
buy our American leftists as well, how do you explain that?

[Al]

In article <rL-200512...@10.0.1.3>, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)

> >> • so it seems. "Šreligion must be the cause of unity, harmony and

> >> agreement among mankind. If it be the cause of discord and hostility, if
> >> it leads to separation and creates conflict, the absence of religion would
> >> be preferable in the world." --`Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith, page 247.
> >
> >
> >It's hard to envision a society based on the absence of something, the
> >vacuum will be filled.
> >
> >I figger it might be not a lot different than religious societies, people
> >pursuing their own interests and unifying around tribal mores that further
> >those interests.
>
> • Alas, how true. In Nigeria there are accredited schools that teach
> humans how to scam other humans.

That's nothing, in Pali schools, they teach the important life skill of
hating the Jews and how important it is to kill them all.

Palestinians, BTW, enjoy a great deal of support and admiration from western
leftists.

[Al]

In article <bqchr7l8n9mjtlpj3...@4ax.com>,

Exactly like the bible, other than all the killing of course.

[Al]

In article <04thr7lj5ev8jd5qg...@4ax.com>,
Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> Well, we do have the GOPAC lectures of Neut aired on C-SPAN
>
> ("we need to starve the federal government in order to build party
> power in the states...")


Laboratories of democracy, federalism, state's rights.

Exactly Obama's position on gay marriage. Who would have guessed that a
statist would evolve into a state's rights federalist so quickly, especially
considering how many years it took him to evolve from a native-born Kenyan
to an American.

[Al]

In article <gmpgr7d68e3ffjjbt...@4ax.com>,

Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:22:42 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>

> >> >Well, 50 million Muslims who lived under oppressive regimes who now have
> >> >a
> >> >struggling democracy might see a bit of old Abe in those neocons.
> >>
> >> Yes, liberal/progressive policies are/were a god-send against the
> >> thuggery, and racism of conservatives.
> >
> >
> >
> >Then it's a great thing American liberals were so eager to liberate these
> >Muslims, even though they would be condemned and attacked by American
> >conservatives - who would take to the streets to demand the jailing of these
> >glorious liberal leaders who fought so hard for their progressive Muslim
> >brothers!
>

> What the fuck kind of babbling is that?

It's called shoe-on-the-other-foot, and is to illustrate the deep conviction
the western left has to freedom and self-determination for all peoples.

Except those liberated by the right, of course, they can go to hell.

[• R. L. Measures.]

In article <bqchr7l8n9mjtlpj3...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
<hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

• Same shit, different orgs. It's all about the lust for dominion.

[Al]

In article <rL-200512...@10.0.1.3>, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)

wrote:

> In article <bqchr7l8n9mjtlpj3...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
> <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:18:50 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>>There's a school of thought that suggests some people are better served by
> >>>a
> >>>dictatorship in many ways, that may be true for much of Islam, considering
> >>>the idea of democracy is against the tenets of the faith.
> >>
> >>• Good point. Since the Qur'an is such a hodgepodge, Muslim "holy men"
> >>relish it because they can pick and choose to suit their own agendas.
> >
> >You mean like Christians do with the bible?
> >
> • Same shit, different orgs. It's all about the lust for dominion.

They have slightly different ways of going about it though.

[Al]

In article <qmfir7tdlrodqmbta...@4ax.com>,
Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Sun, 20 May 2012 08:50:56 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> >There's a school of thought that suggests some people are better served
> >> >by a
> >> >dictatorship in many ways,
> >>
> >> That's what all racists claim
> >
> >And it was one of the left's primary argument against the invasion of Iraq,
> >oddly enough.
>

> The argument against invasion was that Saddam was NO threat. He had
> NON WMD.

There were several arguments against invasion, Saddam's efficiency was one
of them. AND he got 99.9% of the vote!

> >Fidel Castro is a communist dictator, and is deeply admired and respected
> >buy our American leftists as well, how do you explain that?
>

> How do you explain the nonsense of what you just said?

I dunno, ask Mike Moore, Steve Spielberg, Dan Rather et al, they'll give you
a hint.

Fidel's a communist, why wouldn't they laud him?

[Al]

In article <dffir7pkenhn8rpnd...@4ax.com>,
Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Sun, 20 May 2012 08:58:13 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> >Then it's a great thing American liberals were so eager to liberate these
> >> >Muslims, even though they would be condemned and attacked by American
> >> >conservatives - who would take to the streets to demand the jailing of
> >> >these
> >> >glorious liberal leaders who fought so hard for their progressive Muslim
> >> >brothers!
> >>
> >> What the fuck kind of babbling is that?
> >
> >It's called shoe-on-the-other-foot, and is to illustrate the deep conviction
> >the western left has to freedom and self-determination for all peoples.
>

> The "left"--is the LIBERAL/PROGRESSIVE side of politics, you moron.

Yes, and we have the extreme left claiming the achievements of classic
liberals as theirs, when the left is quite iiberal and statist. Such as the
glorious occupy movement.

Many classic liberals have left the liberal tent, many were labeled as
neocons.


==
>
> The Liberal/progressive side founded America

No, you're thinking of the leftist founders, Marx and Engels. They didn't do
much here in America until the turn of the 20th century or so. They are
still very popular with the left today.

Remember when anyone who was truly liberal and hip carried Mao's Little Red
Book?

[• R. L. Measures.]

• In article <04thr7lj5ev8jd5qg...@4ax.com>,
Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Sun, 20 May 2012 00:33:46 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
>wrote:
>

>Well, we do have the GOPAC lectures of Neut aired on C-SPAN
>
>("we need to starve the federal government in order to build party
>power in the states...")

š• ____

[• R. L. Measures.]

In article <17thr79q1ofc06jbo...@4ax.com>,
Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Sun, 20 May 2012 00:37:18 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
>wrote:
>

>>In article <3tpgr7pfabbe4u47p...@4ax.com>,
>>Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 19 May 2012 12:46:57 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Well, 50 million Muslims who lived under oppressive regimes who now
have a
>>>>> >struggling democracy might see a bit of old Abe in those neocons.
>>>>>
>>>>> • Hardly a good bet. In Islam slavery is okay.
>>>>
>>>>There's a school of thought that suggests some people are better
served by a
>>>>dictatorship in many ways,
>>>
>>>That's what all racists claim
>>

>>• A good dictator is totally immune to influence and bribery -- unlike
>>our Congress.
>
>I'm not against influence and bribery by politicians---that's a side
>complication of a political system.
>
>I'm interested in whether or not, bribery and influence
>notwithstanding, whether or not the policies and goals of said
>"influenced and bribed" do the most good for the majority of the
>greatest number of citizens and "progress" the causes of society.
>
• Bribes are almost always to benefit the few.

>One ideology has consistently done that for 150+ years---thru 2
>different parties. One Ideology has fought, obstructed, and helped
>only the wealthy and powerful

• agreed

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In article <albert.finney000-92...@news.giganews.com>, Al

• not all leftists are pro-Castro.

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• ____

[BillyBobMarley]

On May 18, 12:01 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Fri, 18 May 2012 03:00:04 -0500, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
> >"Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and the back of his head,"
> >Officer Ricardo Ayala wrote.
>
> How could zimmerloon "bleed from the nose and back of his head"---if
> he stayed in his truck, not followed and assaulted Martin?

Faggot ass coward why don't you want your posts to be archived?

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In article <albert.finney000-7E...@news.giganews.com>, Al

• There's plently of that in the OT.

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In article <albert.finney000-B3...@news.giganews.com>, Al

� Christians had more access to firewood .

[Al]

In article <rL-200512...@10.0.1.3>, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

Those leftists seem to keep pretty quiet.

[Al]

In article <rL-200512...@10.0.1.3>, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)

wrote:

> In article <albert.finney000-7E...@news.giganews.com>, Al
> <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <bqchr7l8n9mjtlpj3...@4ax.com>,
> > Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:18:50 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>There's a school of thought that suggests some people are better served
> >> >>by
> >> >>a
> >> >>dictatorship in many ways, that may be true for much of Islam,
> >> >>considering
> >> >>the idea of democracy is against the tenets of the faith.
> >> >
> >> >• Good point. Since the Qur'an is such a hodgepodge, Muslim "holy men"
> >> >relish it because they can pick and choose to suit their own agendas.
> >>
> >> You mean like Christians do with the bible?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Exactly like the bible, other than all the killing of course.
>
> • There's plently of that in the OT.

Let's burn an OT and see if any Christians riot and kill one another, that's
a good test to see how dangerous it actually is.

[Al]

In article <rL-200512...@10.0.1.3>, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

> In article <albert.finney000-B3...@news.giganews.com>, Al
> <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <rL-200512...@10.0.1.3>, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
> >wrote:
> >
> >> In article <bqchr7l8n9mjtlpj3...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
> >> <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:18:50 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>There's a school of thought that suggests some people are better
> served by
> >> >>>a
> >> >>>dictatorship in many ways, that may be true for much of Islam,
> considering
> >> >>>the idea of democracy is against the tenets of the faith.
> >> >>
> >> >>• Good point. Since the Qur'an is such a hodgepodge, Muslim "holy men"
> >> >>relish it because they can pick and choose to suit their own agendas.
> >> >
> >> >You mean like Christians do with the bible?
> >> >
> >> • Same shit, different orgs. It's all about the lust for dominion.
> >
> >
> >
> >They have slightly different ways of going about it though.
>
> • Christians had more access to firewood .

And alcohol.

[Al]

In article <0vpir7p576saprurp...@4ax.com>,
Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Sun, 20 May 2012 15:37:43 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> >
> >> >And it was one of the left's primary argument against the invasion of
> >> >Iraq,
> >> >oddly enough.
> >>
> >> The argument against invasion was that Saddam was NO threat. He had
> >> NON WMD.
> >
> >There were several arguments against invasion, Saddam's efficiency was one
> >of them. AND he got 99.9% of the vote!
>

> Did you go off track? Your idiot lied to congress (and the american
> people, like raygun did) and started a war when none was needed.

Sorry, I got off track by offering a point in response to your point. I keep
forgetting that you're here to lecture. "Shut up, he explained".

> >> >Fidel Castro is a communist dictator, and is deeply admired and respected
> >> >buy our American leftists as well, how do you explain that?
> >>
> >> How do you explain the nonsense of what you just said?
> >
> >I dunno, ask Mike Moore, Steve Spielberg, Dan Rather et al, they'll give you
> >a hint.
>

> Well, that's 3 people
>
> How significant.

Much more so then the leftist anti-Castro camp, which apparently is on a
long vacation.