Creation Rediscovered - book by a Catholic author
CS
There are two fundamental but contradictory understandings of life and all physical reality from the
point of view of their origins: Creation and Evolution. Creation Rediscovered is primarily a study
of Evolution, which carefully considers all basic aspects of that belief system - both "Natural
Evolution" and "Theistic Evolution." The author covers the basic question, the two basic Evolution
theories, the concept of "Special Creation," the discoveries of science, the fossil record,
genetics, entropy (the conservation of energy, etc.) the age of the universe, pointers to a Creator,
the problems with "Theistic Evolution" and "Progressive Creation," and a number of other questions.
The upshot is that there is not only no proof for Evolution, but that the proof from DNA shows that
Evolution cannot occur! One of the great hallmarks of this important book is the author's discussion
of the influence of Evolution on belief systems. He shows in the first part of the book that
Evolution as a belief system is not only unfounded, but is contradicted at every turn by the
scientific facts. and yet Evolution forms the underlying belief structure of Nazism, Communism,
Socialism, Existentialism, Humanism, and Modernism (the formally condemned heretical belief that is
rife among today's Catholic clergy and hierarchy). Thus, many of the leading "isms" in today's
Church and world are based upon fundamental belief assumptions that are positively wrong! Creation
Rediscovered is a pivotal book for all Catholics today because it puts to rest once and for all the
possibility for Evolution and it shows that we face the erroneous deductions and false policies of a
host of deluded minds in both our Church and in our society. Not enough can be said for the
importance of this book . . . to get the fundamentals right regarding our Origins, in order that the
rest of our thought and all our actions are based upon the truth.
Scott
scientist in respected journals?
http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Brown_Alumni_Magazine/00/11-99/features/
darwin.html
http://www.harpercollins.com/catalog/author_xml.asp?authorID=6722
http://www.bostonphoenix.com/archive/books/00/03/23/GOD_AND_DARWIN.html
http://www.aaas.org/spp/dser/evolution/science/kennethmiller.htm
You know, Chucky, I'm believing you have a serious case of cognitive
dissonance. I have given you Catholic links after link that are more
credible than any Catholic link you've come up with. Such as links to Notre
Dame's college of biology, a book on the subject published by the Vatican
Observatory and coming right out of Pontifical Academy of Sciences no less,
http://www.libertynet.org/bvm/creed.htm ,etc. etc. Yet you discount those
(the hallmark of cog diss) in favor of what you posted below.
I have no doubt that you will find Catholic Creationists, even those with
"Rev" attached to there names (hick Behe is Catholic). I've seen their books
in Catholic book stores. The critical question comes down to: "How credible
are any of these books and authors?" in relation to Catholicism. If I had to
choose the difference between "Evolutionary and Molecular Biology" from the
Pontifical Academy of Sciences or Gerard J. Keane SJ's "Creation
Rediscovered", as a Catholic <cough> CS, which do you think should hold more
weight of influence?
Scott
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CS
Creationist.
It's like in the former Soviet Uniion. They boasted that every student believed in evolution, BUT
they were
forced into it. Otherwise they'd kick them out of school.
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LOL. So CS maybe you'd like to further explain what you mean by scientists'
"credibility" being "relative" and how this credibility is just like being
in the Soviet Union were every student was forced into a belief in
evolution.
CS, do I need to explain how this "credibility is relative" philosophy of
yours also applies to your "real" scientists at your beloved Creation
Science Institute.
To talk.origns readers. CS here has claimed to be Catholic creationist. I'm
believing he's really Pastor Chuch Smith of Calvery Chapel. (My reasoning
comes from a previous exhange.)
http://www.thewordfortoday.org/
http://www.calvarychapel.com/csn/
Scott
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CS
Gerard J. Keane author of Creation Rediscovered.
He is a Ph.D and D.Sc
So here he have his credentials, which I assume don't mean much to you anyway.
"In my studies I went on to a B.A. and M.A. in forestry, a Ph.D. in plant physiology and finally a
D.Sc. in genetics. For a long time I was not bothered by geology, Evolution or any suspicious
thoughts. I had my own field of research in population genetics of forest trees, with no immediate
relevance to the controversy over Evolution."
http://www.theotokos.org.uk/pages/creation/gjkeane/foreword.html
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"CS" <nas...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:3c8937b5$1...@News.Destek.net...
> Scott,
>
> Gerard J. Keane author of Creation Rediscovered.
>
> He is a Ph.D and D.Sc
>
> So here he have his credentials, which I assume don't mean much to you
anyway.
You can leave now Chuck. Or you can stay. But you ought to be honest why
your here and debate from that point of view.
Let me ask you again:
If one had to choose the difference between "Evolutionary and Molecular
macaddicted
Sigh. Evolution is responsible for everything that is wrong with the
world today. Reading Darwin will make you blind and cause hair to grow
in the palm of your hands.
As Catholics we must constantly fight against the desire to stick our
heads in the sand because something is theologically uncomfortable.
Vatican II is not going away. We must recognize that the Church must
adapt to modern times in order to remain relevant to the people who
live in those times.
This does not mean that we should abandon our beliefs or surrender our
traditions. It does mean that we must recognize that the world changes.
For the Church to act in the lives of the faithful it must remain
relevant to those people.
Part of that relevance is a recognition of the advacement of the
knowledge of man. Would you abandon your computer because of a
theological question over indeterminacy in quantum mechanics? Yet we
readily abandon evolution because it is seen as being in conflict with
the Bible. But those views fell with 'Providentissimus Deus'
(http://www.ewtn.com/library/ENCYC/L13PROVI.HTM)
and had their end with 'Divino Afflante Spiritu'
(http://www.ewtn.com/library/ENCYC/P12DIVIN.HTM). Literal
interpretation of the Bible is not Catholic. And without a literal
interpretation the Genesis myths are better understood as God
communicating with man and not a retelling of the specifics of
creation.
Evolution is not about the beginnings of life. That point is made
constantly on the talk.origins group. It is about how new species come
into being. Pope John Paul II has reaffirmed the statements of Pius XII
in 'Humani Generis' in stating that "almost half a century after the
publication of the Encyclical new knowledge has led us to realize that
the theory of evolution is no longer a mere hypothesis." (John Paul II,
Message to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, Oct. 23, 1996. As quoted
from 'Evolutionary and Molecular Biology', by Robert J. Russell, et.
al.)
He does go on to say that the MIND of man did not come about through
what would best be described as natural, evolutionary means. The leap
from the animate to the rational is one better measured through
philosophy than science. I am sure many in talk.origins will disagree.
'Providentissimus Deus' tells us that truth cannot contradict truth. We
have the revealed truth of God and the discovered truth of science.
From a Catholic perspective the leap from the evolutionary man to the
rational/responsive man is something still in need of further
exploration. But to abandon evolution is to abandon the discussion. It
would justly put us forward to be ridiculed.
Are there questions about evolution? Yes. Go up to someone knowledgable
about evolution and ask "Dawkins or Gould?" But while the PROCESS of
evolution is debated neither man would deny the FACT of evolution.
As a devout, lifelong Catholic I beg you. Please, don't allow yourself
to be pulled back into discredited scientific ideas for fear of
theological discomfort.
--
macaddicted
"Time may be money but your money won't buy more time"
James Taylor
Scott
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> [snip]
>
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> As a devout, lifelong Catholic I beg you. Please, don't allow yourself
> to be pulled back into discredited scientific ideas for fear of
> theological discomfort.
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> --
> macaddicted
Well said.
Scott