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Mitchell Holman

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Apr 28, 2013, 12:29:41 PM4/28/13
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Why Catholic schools are shutting their doors
APR 28, 2013


Nationwide, nearly 150 Catholic schools will
close this year, a troubling trend for the
church in America. The Archdiocese of New York
alone plans to close 24 schools in June.

The effects ripple through communities as
schools and the parishes that support them
lose members. They are often buckling under
the pressures of declining enrollment and a
weak economy.

Several challenges facing the church, in
addition to a faltering economy, help to explain
why so many schools are closing. Society is more
secularized and there is a decline in the church-
going population. The priest sex abuse scandal
has kept the church in the news � and in court �
for many years. And there have been demographic
shifts in America's Catholic landscape, including
immigrants who are Catholic but who do not put a
priority on a Catholic education.

"Fewer and fewer people are going to church now,"
said Jim Goodness, spokesman for the Newark (N.J.)
Archdiocese, "and fewer and fewer parents are
sending their children to Catholic schools."

That means less tuition. And despite the Catholic
Church's legendary wealth, on a local level it
doesn't have the cash to close the gap in
individual parishes. And if regular operating
costs, such as maintenance and teacher salaries,
are being covered by deficit spending, then the
parish starts talking about closing a school,
Goodness said.

http://www.grandhaventribune.com/article/education/375331

duke

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Apr 28, 2013, 1:16:57 PM4/28/13
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:29:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net> wrote:

>
>
>
>Why Catholic schools are shutting their doors
>APR 28, 2013
>
>
>Nationwide, nearly 150 Catholic schools will
>close this year, a troubling trend for the
>church in America.

It's called demographics. From the inner city to the suburbs. And it's called
consolidation replacing small schools.

Gosh, it's embarrassing, isn't it.

The dukester, American - American

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You simply can't fix stupid.
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Mitchell Holman

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Apr 28, 2013, 2:01:20 PM4/28/13
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:famqn85koa5p8b9q9...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:29:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>Why Catholic schools are shutting their doors
>>APR 28, 2013
>>
>>
>>Nationwide, nearly 150 Catholic schools will
>>close this year, a troubling trend for the
>>church in America.
>
> It's called demographics.


And common sense. Does any really think
a senior citizen in Rome has a hotline to
God and much believe as they are told?



Silen...@hotmail.com

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Apr 28, 2013, 6:58:45 PM4/28/13
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 12:16:57 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:29:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>Why Catholic schools are shutting their doors
>>APR 28, 2013
>>
>>
>>Nationwide, nearly 150 Catholic schools will
>>close this year, a troubling trend for the
>>church in America.
>
>It's called demographics. From the inner city to the suburbs. And it's called
>consolidation replacing small schools.

No, Dook.

It's called a bullshit excuse to try and distract from the fact that
the RCC is finding it difficult to persuade an increasingly educated
populace that their cult has anything worthwhile to offer.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.

duke

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Apr 29, 2013, 7:27:04 AM4/29/13
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Why not? God and I talk every day.

duke

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Apr 29, 2013, 7:27:49 AM4/29/13
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:58:45 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 12:16:57 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:29:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Why Catholic schools are shutting their doors
>>>APR 28, 2013
>>>
>>>
>>>Nationwide, nearly 150 Catholic schools will
>>>close this year, a troubling trend for the
>>>church in America.
>>
>>It's called demographics. From the inner city to the suburbs. And it's called
>>consolidation replacing small schools.
>
>No, Dook.
>
>It's called a bullshit excuse to try and distract from the fact that
>the RCC is finding it difficult to persuade an increasingly educated
>populace that their cult has anything worthwhile to offer.

Demographics says you're wrong - as usual.

Dreamer In Colore

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Apr 29, 2013, 7:30:27 AM4/29/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 06:27:04 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:01:20 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net> wrote:
>
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>news:famqn85koa5p8b9q9...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:29:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why Catholic schools are shutting their doors
>>>>APR 28, 2013
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nationwide, nearly 150 Catholic schools will
>>>>close this year, a troubling trend for the
>>>>church in America.
>>>
>>> It's called demographics.
>>
>>
>> And common sense. Does any really think
>>a senior citizen in Rome has a hotline to
>>God and much believe as they are told?
>
>Why not? God and I talk every day.
>

Do you use a cellphone or a landline?

See, if you could have independent verifiable evidence of this
conversation... you would not only be the wealthiest man on the
planet, but you'd immediately be able to shut everyone up.

The fact that you don't, and can't, just means that you have
conversations with imaginary things.

David Berkowitz talked to God every day too.

Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306

Mitchell Holman

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Apr 29, 2013, 8:10:52 AM4/29/13
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:h8msn85alh2asb2q3...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:58:45 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 12:16:57 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:29:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>>><nomailerizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why Catholic schools are shutting their doors
>>>>APR 28, 2013
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nationwide, nearly 150 Catholic schools will
>>>>close this year, a troubling trend for the
>>>>church in America.
>>>
>>>It's called demographics. From the inner city to the suburbs. And
>>>it's called consolidation replacing small schools.
>>
>>No, Dook.
>>
>>It's called a bullshit excuse to try and distract from the fact that
>>the RCC is finding it difficult to persuade an increasingly educated
>>populace that their cult has anything worthwhile to offer.
>
> Demographics says you're wrong - as usual.


Your own pope says you are wrong, as usual.




Benedict XVI's drive to stop declining church attendance
17 Aug 2011

Even countries like Ireland and Italy, which have been
staunchly Catholic for centuries, have seen sharp drops
in the number of Catholics attending church.

Around 80 per cent of Spaniards identify themselves as
Catholics but two-thirds seldom or never attend church.
Less than 50 per cent of Irish go to Mass at least once
a week, compared with 85 per cent two decades ago, with
many Catholics left shocked and angry over the decades-
long cover-up of sexually abusive priests.

In Italy, where more than 95 per cent of people describe
themselves as Catholic, church attendance has fallen to
less than 30 per cent. Catholic churches and chapels in
France are also increasingly empty and cathedrals are
visited more by tourists than by the faithful. Catholicism
is also in decline in the United States, where 400,000
people left the Church in 2008 alone.

Benedict XVI has said that confronting the decline of
Catholicism in Europe is one of the biggest priorities his
papacy, but with the paedophile sex scandals of recent years
it is not clear how the Church can re-establish its moral
legitimacy and popular appeal. There are an estimated 1.1
billion Roman Catholics in the world, compared with 1.5
billion Muslims and nearly 600 million Protestants.

http://tinyurl.com/42aqzsr




Silen...@hotmail.com

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Apr 29, 2013, 9:03:14 AM4/29/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 06:27:49 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:58:45 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 12:16:57 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:29:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why Catholic schools are shutting their doors
>>>>APR 28, 2013
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nationwide, nearly 150 Catholic schools will
>>>>close this year, a troubling trend for the
>>>>church in America.
>>>
>>>It's called demographics. From the inner city to the suburbs. And it's called
>>>consolidation replacing small schools.
>>
>>No, Dook.
>>
>>It's called a bullshit excuse to try and distract from the fact that
>>the RCC is finding it difficult to persuade an increasingly educated
>>populace that their cult has anything worthwhile to offer.
>
>Demographics says you're wrong - as usual.

No, Dook.

Demographics says I'm right.

I know you're in denial about it, and I strongly suspect that you'll
remain in denial about it.

But, reality doesn't give a shit what you're in denial about.

The RCC is shrinking and will continue to shrink in the future, as has
been happening in Europe for a couple of generations.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.





>

harry k

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Apr 29, 2013, 11:16:42 AM4/29/13
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IOW it's about pruning the tree to eliminate unproductive branches.

Ever hear about consolidation to economize?

Harry K

harry k

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Apr 29, 2013, 11:18:33 AM4/29/13
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On Apr 29, 4:30 am, Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincol...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 06:27:04 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:01:20 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net> wrote:
>
> >>duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in
> >>news:famqn85koa5p8b9q9...@4ax.com:
>
> >>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:29:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>>Why Catholic schools are shutting their doors
> >>>>APR 28, 2013
>
> >>>>Nationwide, nearly 150 Catholic schools will
> >>>>close this year, a troubling trend for the
> >>>>church in America.
>
> >>> It's called demographics.
>
> >>    And common sense. Does any really think
> >>a senior citizen in Rome has a hotline to
> >>God and much believe as they are told?
>
> >Why not?  God and I talk every day.
>
> Do you use a cellphone or a landline?
>
> See, if you could have independent verifiable evidence of this
> conversation... you would not only be the wealthiest man on the
> planet, but you'd immediately be able to shut everyone up.
>
> The fact that you don't, and can't, just means that you have
> conversations with imaginary things.
>
> David Berkowitz talked to God every day too.
>
> Cheers,
> Dreamer
> AA 2306

Well, talking _to_ god isn't all that much of a problem but according
to the idiot Duke, god answers back!!

Now, last I heard, hearing voices is a serious mental problem.

Harry K

Uncle Vic

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Apr 29, 2013, 11:40:46 AM4/29/13
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:g7msn8h8vi50n1obf...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:01:20 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>news:famqn85koa5p8b9q9...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:29:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>>> <nomailerizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why Catholic schools are shutting their doors
>>>>APR 28, 2013
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nationwide, nearly 150 Catholic schools will
>>>>close this year, a troubling trend for the
>>>>church in America.
>>>
>>> It's called demographics.
>>
>>
>> And common sense. Does any really think
>>a senior citizen in Rome has a hotline to
>>God and much believe as they are told?
>
> Why not? God and I talk every day.
>

It's amazing how many psychopaths (including yourself) walk around free
when they should be in a mental institution.

--
Uncle Vic
aa# 2011
BAAWA

AA Quotemeister

Visit my You Tube Channel!
http://www.youtube.com/user/Vicman6311?feature=mhee

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Apr 29, 2013, 2:10:03 PM4/29/13
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In article <famqn85koa5p8b9q9...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:29:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net> wrote:
>
> >Why Catholic schools are shutting their doors
> >APR 28, 2013
> >
> >Nationwide, nearly 150 Catholic schools will
> >close this year, a troubling trend for the
> >church in America.
>
> It's called demographics. From the inner city to the suburbs. And it's called
> consolidation replacing small schools.
>
> Gosh, it's embarrassing, isn't it.
Yes, your lying bull shit should make all Catholics ashamed to be
Catholics.
But, people are wising up and sending fewer and fewer children to
Catholic schools.
>

Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
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>
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>
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>
http://tinyurl.com/anghyfr
>
http://tinyurl.com/a887er9
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
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>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
http://tinyurl.com/b29z62n
>

Father Haskell

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Apr 29, 2013, 2:54:56 PM4/29/13
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On Apr 29, 7:30 am, Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincol...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 06:27:04 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:01:20 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net> wrote:
>
> >>duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in
> >>news:famqn85koa5p8b9q9...@4ax.com:
>
> >>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:29:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>>Why Catholic schools are shutting their doors
> >>>>APR 28, 2013
>
> >>>>Nationwide, nearly 150 Catholic schools will
> >>>>close this year, a troubling trend for the
> >>>>church in America.
>
> >>> It's called demographics.
>
> >>    And common sense. Does any really think
> >>a senior citizen in Rome has a hotline to
> >>God and much believe as they are told?
>
> >Why not?  God and I talk every day.
>
> Do you use a cellphone or a landline?
>
> See, if you could have independent verifiable evidence of this
> conversation... you would not only be the wealthiest man on the
> planet, but you'd immediately be able to shut everyone up.
>
> The fact that you don't, and can't, just means that you have
> conversations with imaginary things.
>
> David Berkowitz talked to God every day too.

Berkowitz talked to his dog, who in turn talked
to god. Same as how Wilbur Post talked to Mr. Ed.


Father Haskell

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Apr 29, 2013, 2:55:55 PM4/29/13
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On Apr 29, 7:27 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:01:20 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net> wrote:
> >duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in
> >news:famqn85koa5p8b9q9...@4ax.com:
>
> >> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:29:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>Why Catholic schools are shutting their doors
> >>>APR 28, 2013
>
> >>>Nationwide, nearly 150 Catholic schools will
> >>>close this year, a troubling trend for the
> >>>church in America.
>
> >> It's called demographics.
>
> >    And common sense. Does any really think
> >a senior citizen in Rome has a hotline to
> >God and much believe as they are told?
>
> Why not?  God and I talk every day.

When he tells you to "purge" the city, please call
911. You'll thank me.

duke

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Apr 29, 2013, 4:41:53 PM4/29/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 07:30:27 -0400, Dreamer In Colore
<dreamer...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>Why not? God and I talk every day.
>Do you use a cellphone or a landline?

>See, if you could have independent verifiable evidence of this
>conversation... you would not only be the wealthiest man on the
>planet, but you'd immediately be able to shut everyone up.

God doesn't talk to you? No wonder.

duke

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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:40:46 -0500, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:

>> Why not? God and I talk every day.
>It's amazing how many psychopaths (including yourself) walk around free
>when they should be in a mental institution.

You must be a really, really bad person if God doesn't try to talk to you.

duke

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Apr 29, 2013, 4:43:32 PM4/29/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
<father...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> Why not? �God and I talk every day.

>When he tells you to "purge" the city, please call
>911. You'll thank me.

Oh, I can't purge. God alone does that.

duke

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Apr 29, 2013, 4:45:29 PM4/29/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:03:14 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>
>>>>It's called demographics. From the inner city to the suburbs. And it's called
>>>>consolidation replacing small schools.
>>>
>>>No, Dook.
>>>
>>>It's called a bullshit excuse to try and distract from the fact that
>>>the RCC is finding it difficult to persuade an increasingly educated
>>>populace that their cult has anything worthwhile to offer.
>>
>>Demographics says you're wrong - as usual.
>No, Dook.
>Demographics says I'm right.

To prove my point, the RCC in the US has grown 10% in the last 10 years.

duke

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Apr 29, 2013, 4:47:17 PM4/29/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:16:42 -0700 (PDT), harry k <tur...@q.com> wrote:

>> It's called demographics.  From the inner city to the suburbs.  And it's called
>> consolidation replacing small schools.
>> Gosh, it's embarrassing, isn't it.

>IOW it's about pruning the tree to eliminate unproductive branches.
>Ever hear about consolidation to economize?

When most of the Catholics have moved out of a region with Catholic Schools,
then one closes the school and moves to where the Catholics are. And the
Catholics well welcome the Church following. You see how that works?

Silen...@hotmail.com

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Apr 29, 2013, 5:31:19 PM4/29/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:45:29 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:03:14 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>>>>>It's called demographics. From the inner city to the suburbs. And it's called
>>>>>consolidation replacing small schools.
>>>>
>>>>No, Dook.
>>>>
>>>>It's called a bullshit excuse to try and distract from the fact that
>>>>the RCC is finding it difficult to persuade an increasingly educated
>>>>populace that their cult has anything worthwhile to offer.
>>>
>>>Demographics says you're wrong - as usual.
>>No, Dook.
>>Demographics says I'm right.
>
>To prove my point, the RCC in the US has grown 10% in the last 10 years.

That's a bullshit statistic and we all know why it's a bullshit
statistic.

Repeating it won't make it stop being a bullshit statistic.

Virtually every other measure of the health of the RCC is a negative,
from fewer schools, fewer priests, more imported priests, the average
age of members... everything.

There's a reason for that, Dook.



The decline of the Catholic Clergy in the U.S.A.

Priests
Between 1930 and 1965, the number of priests in the United States more
than doubled to 58,000.

Since then the number has fallen to 45,000.

By 2020, there will be only 31,000 priests left, and more than half of
these priests will be over 70. ----> Get ready for the BIG CRASH,
Dook.

In 1965, 1,575 new priests were ordained in the United States. In
2002, the number was 450.

In 1965, only 1% of U.S. parishes were without a priest. In 2002 this
number is 15%.

Between 1965 and 2002, the number of seminarians dropped from 49,000
to 4,700.

Two-thirds of the 600 seminaries that were operating in 1965 have now
closed.

Religious Orders.

In 1965, there were 179,954 women in Catholic religious orders. By
2002, that had fallen to 75,000, in 2005 it was 68,634 and the average
age of a Catholic nun is today 68.

In 1965, 3,559 young men were studying to become Jesuit priests. In
2000, the figure was 389.

With the Christian Brothers, the situation is even more dire. Their
number has now shrunk by two-thirds. In 1965, there were 912
seminarians in the Christian Brothers. In 2000, there were only 7.

The number of young men studying to become Franciscan and Redemptorist
priests fell from 3,379 in 1965 to 84 in 2000.

The decline of the Catholic Laity in the U.S.A.

Catholic schools.

Almost half of all Catholic high schools in the United States have
closed since 1965.

The student population has fallen from 700,000 to 386,000.

----> So much for you consolidation argument.

Parochial schools have suffered even worse. Some 4,000 have shut down,
and the number of pupils has fallen from 4.5 million to just under 2
million.

----> Confirmed again.

Catholic Marriage.

Catholic marriages have fallen in number by one-third since 1965.

The annual number of annulments has soared from 338 in 1968 to 50,000
in 2002.

Attendance at Mass.

In 1958, a Gallup Poll reported that 74% of Catholics then attended
church on Sundays.

In 1965, it seems that 65% attended, according to a recent Fordham
University study.

In 1994, it seems that 27% attended church, according to study by the
University of Notre Dame.

In 2000, the rate was 25%, according to the Fordham study.
Indicative beliefs

70% of all Catholics in the age group 18 to 44 believe the Eucharist
is a "symbolic reminder" of Jesus.

90% of lay religious teachers reject church teaching on contraception.

53% believe a Catholic can have an abortion and remain a good
Catholic.

65% believe that Catholics may divorce and remarry.

75% believe one can be a good Catholic without attending mass on
Sundays.



First they stop being devout Catholics, then they stop being
Catholics, then they stop being religious.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.





>

Father Haskell

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On Apr 29, 4:43 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
>
> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Why not?  God and I talk every day.
> >When he tells you to "purge" the city, please call
> >911.  You'll thank me.
>
> Oh, I can't purge.  God alone does that.

You mean his followers.


linuxgal

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Apr 29, 2013, 8:47:17 PM4/29/13
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duke wrote:
>
> To prove my point, the RCC in the US has grown 10% in the last 10 years.

1. The US population has grown 10% in the last 10 years.

2. The Catholic Church forces babies to be baptized and counted as
Catholics.

See how that works?

--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0

Silen...@hotmail.com

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Apr 29, 2013, 8:52:32 PM4/29/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:47:17 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:16:42 -0700 (PDT), harry k <tur...@q.com> wrote:
>
>>> It's called demographics.  From the inner city to the suburbs.  And it's called
>>> consolidation replacing small schools.
>>> Gosh, it's embarrassing, isn't it.
>
>>IOW it's about pruning the tree to eliminate unproductive branches.
>>Ever hear about consolidation to economize?
>
>When most of the Catholics have moved out of a region with Catholic Schools,
>then one closes the school and moves to where the Catholics are. And the
>Catholics well welcome the Church following. You see how that works?

Then how come enrolment in Catholic schools is falling precipitously,
Dook?

2002-2003 2,553,277

2007-2008 2,270,913

2012-2012 2,001,740

Gee...

Down by over half a million in just the past decade.

Now, were they just moving around, as you're claiming, national
enrollment would be roughly the same or increasing, wouldn't it, Dook?

Hmmmm...

Maybe birth rates have fallen off enough to account for the decline?

2001 4,025,933 14.1
2002 4,021,726 13.9
2003 4,089,950 14.1
2004 4,112,052 14.0
2005 4,138,349 14.0
2009 4,131,019 13.8

Nope. That's not it.

You got some 'splainin' to do, boy.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.




















>

nature bats last

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On Apr 29, 1:43 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
>
> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:

;
> >> Why not? ?God and I talk every day.

;
> >When he tells you to "purge" the city, please call
> >911. You'll thank me.

;
> Oh, I can't purge. God alone does that.


God purges cities?

He purges entire cities?


Weren't you the guy telling us just today, that "God
never ever hurts one person"?


NBL

Dreamer In Colore

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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:42:56 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:40:46 -0500, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
>
>>> Why not? God and I talk every day.
>>It's amazing how many psychopaths (including yourself) walk around free
>>when they should be in a mental institution.
>
>You must be a really, really bad person if God doesn't try to talk to you.
>

So then by this stunning logic, you must be better than God because
you keep talking to me every day.

Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306

•RLMeasures

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Apr 29, 2013, 11:20:00 PM4/29/13
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In article <OtydnVO1AeHciOLM...@giganews.com>, linuxgal
<linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:

> duke wrote:
> >
> > To prove my point, the RCC in the US has grown 10% in the last 10 years.
>
> 1. The US population has grown 10% in the last 10 years.
>
> 2. The Catholic Church forces babies to be baptized and counted as
> Catholics.
>
> See how that works?

• when someone walks, the RC church still counts them as members. The
Mormon church does the same damn thing. Lying is not prohibited by the
Ten Commandments, so this is to be ecpected.of Christians.

harry k

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Apr 30, 2013, 12:05:01 AM4/30/13
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Perhaps he meant that one person isn't enough, He always punishes a
whole bunch.
According to the babble He gets his rocks off by smiting them by the
millions.

Harry K

Paul Duca

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On Monday, April 29, 2013 10:53:20 PM UTC-4, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:42:56 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:40:46 -0500, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>> Why not? God and I talk every day.
>
> >>It's amazing how many psychopaths (including yourself) walk around free
>
> >>when they should be in a mental institution.
>
> >
>
> >You must be a really, really bad person if God doesn't try to talk to you.
>

Maybe God has nothing to say to me that I want to hear...

Paul

Paul Duca

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Apr 30, 2013, 2:28:37 AM4/30/13
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On Monday, April 29, 2013 9:46:15 PM UTC-4, nature bats last wrote:
> On Apr 29, 1:43 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
>
> >
>
> > <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> ;
>
> > >> Why not? ?God and I talk every day.
>
>
>
> ;
>
> > >When he tells you to "purge" the city, please call
>
> > >911. You'll thank me.
>
>
>
> ;
>
> > Oh, I can't purge. God alone does that.
>
>

Oh...so God gives Duke enemas?


Paul

duke

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What I talk about with God is different than what I talk to you about. You
won't talk to God, so he asked me to do it. You see, God works thru other
people.

duke

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Apr 30, 2013, 6:52:22 AM4/30/13
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Well, in a way, yes. People that avoid God never get the chance to be purged of
their repentant and forgiven sins.

duke

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Apr 30, 2013, 6:54:10 AM4/30/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqk...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Apr 29, 1:43 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
>>
>> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> >> Why not? ?God and I talk every day.
>> >When he tells you to "purge" the city, please call
>> >911. You'll thank me.
>> Oh, I can't purge. God alone does that.

>God purges cities?
>He purges entire cities?

>Weren't you the guy telling us just today, that "God
>never ever hurts one person"?

Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.

duke

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Apr 30, 2013, 6:59:14 AM4/30/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:31:19 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:45:29 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:03:14 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>>>It's called demographics. From the inner city to the suburbs. And it's called
>>>>>>consolidation replacing small schools.
>>>>>
>>>>>No, Dook.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's called a bullshit excuse to try and distract from the fact that
>>>>>the RCC is finding it difficult to persuade an increasingly educated
>>>>>populace that their cult has anything worthwhile to offer.
>>>>
>>>>Demographics says you're wrong - as usual.
>>>No, Dook.
>>>Demographics says I'm right.
>>
>>To prove my point, the RCC in the US has grown 10% in the last 10 years.

>That's a bullshit statistic and we all know why it's a bullshit
>statistic.

I have the published data.

>Repeating it won't make it stop being a bullshit statistic.
>Virtually every other measure of the health of the RCC is a negative,
>from fewer schools, fewer priests, more imported priests, the average
>age of members... everything.

>There's a reason for that, Dook.

Fewer schools means consolidation. Right at 100% of the drop in priests for the
last 50 years is replaced with permanent deacons. A priest is a priest
regardless of his home country. And youth is starting to come back in droves,
thanks to Catholic School education. Of course, the youth is also figuring out
that there's more to live and what society craps on them. Oh, and the
seminaries are starting to grow again.

Heeheehee. Things are looking GOOD now.

duke

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Apr 30, 2013, 7:00:06 AM4/30/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:47:17 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:

>duke wrote:
>>
>> To prove my point, the RCC in the US has grown 10% in the last 10 years.

>1. The US population has grown 10% in the last 10 years.

Yep.

>2. The Catholic Church forces babies to be baptized and counted as
>Catholics.
>See how that works?

The CC can't force anybody to be baptized. Parents do that.

duke

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Apr 30, 2013, 7:05:37 AM4/30/13
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 20:52:32 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:47:17 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:16:42 -0700 (PDT), harry k <tur...@q.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> It's called demographics.  From the inner city to the suburbs.  And it's called
>>>> consolidation replacing small schools.
>>>> Gosh, it's embarrassing, isn't it.
>>
>>>IOW it's about pruning the tree to eliminate unproductive branches.
>>>Ever hear about consolidation to economize?
>>
>>When most of the Catholics have moved out of a region with Catholic Schools,
>>then one closes the school and moves to where the Catholics are. And the
>>Catholics well welcome the Church following. You see how that works?

>Then how come enrolment in Catholic schools is falling precipitously,
>Dook?

>2002-2003 2,553,277
>2007-2008 2,270,913
>2012-2012 2,001,740

Superior private education is expensive.

>Maybe birth rates have fallen off enough to account for the decline?

>2001 4,025,933 14.1
>2002 4,021,726 13.9
>2003 4,089,950 14.1
>2004 4,112,052 14.0
>2005 4,138,349 14.0
>2009 4,131,019 13.8

>Nope. That's not it.
>You got some 'splainin' to do, boy.

Cyclic things go both ways. Church attendance, religious vocations, lay
ministries are growing rapidly - just as God calls us to.

The best is yet to come.

Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:49:28 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:53:20 -0400, Dreamer In Colore
><dreamer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:42:56 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:40:46 -0500, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Why not? God and I talk every day.
>>>>It's amazing how many psychopaths (including yourself) walk around free
>>>>when they should be in a mental institution.
>>>
>>>You must be a really, really bad person if God doesn't try to talk to you.
>
>>So then by this stunning logic, you must be better than God because
>>you keep talking to me every day.
>
>What I talk about with God is different than what I talk to you about. You
>won't talk to God, so he asked me to do it. You see, God works thru other
>people.

So, Dook...

Now you're claiming to speak for God.

Does the word "blasphemy" mean anything to you?

That's a damnable offense, according to the RCC.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.




>

Silen...@hotmail.com

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Apr 30, 2013, 9:08:34 AM4/30/13
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:52:22 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:38:03 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
><father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 29, 4:43 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
>>>
>>> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >> Why not?  God and I talk every day.
>>> >When he tells you to "purge" the city, please call
>>> >911.  You'll thank me.
>>>
>>> Oh, I can't purge.  God alone does that.
>
>>You mean his followers.
>
>Well, in a way, yes. People that avoid God never get the chance to be purged of
>their repentant and forgiven sins.

I think he was referring to the more active role Christians have
played in purging people for not being Christian enough.

You know, that nasty practice of murder that you have so much
difficulty condemning.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.





>
>
>

Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:59:14 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:31:19 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:45:29 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:03:14 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>It's called demographics. From the inner city to the suburbs. And it's called
>>>>>>>consolidation replacing small schools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No, Dook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's called a bullshit excuse to try and distract from the fact that
>>>>>>the RCC is finding it difficult to persuade an increasingly educated
>>>>>>populace that their cult has anything worthwhile to offer.
>>>>>
>>>>>Demographics says you're wrong - as usual.
>>>>No, Dook.
>>>>Demographics says I'm right.
>>>
>>>To prove my point, the RCC in the US has grown 10% in the last 10 years.
>
>>That's a bullshit statistic and we all know why it's a bullshit
>>statistic.
>
>I have the published data.

I have published the data that shows why it's bullshit.

>>Repeating it won't make it stop being a bullshit statistic.
>>Virtually every other measure of the health of the RCC is a negative,
>>from fewer schools, fewer priests, more imported priests, the average
>>age of members... everything.
>
>>There's a reason for that, Dook.
>
>Fewer schools means consolidation.

Except that enrollment has also fallen precipitously.

Down by half a million, or 20%, in just a decade.

>Right at 100% of the drop in priests for the
>last 50 years is replaced with permanent deacons.

Were the health of the RCC as strong as you claim, replacing priests
with deacons wouldn't be necessary.

But, it -is- necessary.

>A priest is a priest
>regardless of his home country.

The only place that people are still becoming priests are third world
countries with poor educational systems.

That's why the RCC in the U.S. has to import them.

>And youth is starting to come back in droves,
>thanks to Catholic School education.

Except they aren't.

Enrollment in Catholic schools, as noted previously, is falling
precipitously.

Even enrollment of non-Catholics in Catholic schools is falling.

>Of course, the youth is also figuring out
>that there's more to live and what society craps on them.

They're also figuring out that the RCC is an archaic institution that
has decreasing relevance to the modern world.

Some of the RCC most basic tenants are seen as silly at best and
harmful at worst, and are being ignored.

That, of course, is why the only growth the RCC is seeing is among the
third world immigrant population.

>Oh, and the
>seminaries are starting to grow again.

And increasingly filled with people from third world countries, who
are suffering from the effects of a poor education.

You can harbor your delusions, Dook, but you can't change reality.

linuxgal

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Apr 30, 2013, 9:35:52 AM4/30/13
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duke wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:47:17 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
>> duke wrote:
>>> To prove my point, the RCC in the US has grown 10% in the last 10 years.
>
>> 1. The US population has grown 10% in the last 10 years.
>
> Yep.

That means you are treading water. Ask Jason, he took Statistics for
his undergrad academic work.

linuxgal

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Apr 30, 2013, 9:37:21 AM4/30/13
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duke wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqk...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 29, 1:43 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
>> God purges cities?
>> He purges entire cities?
>
>> Weren't you the guy telling us just today, that "God
>> never ever hurts one person"?
>
> Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.

And when the Romans put the nails through Christ's ankles that wasn't
hurting, that was enhanced deterrence.

linuxgal

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Apr 30, 2013, 9:38:22 AM4/30/13
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duke wrote:

> What I talk about with God is different than what I talk to you about. You
> won't talk to God, so he asked me to do it.

What celebrity does God sound like. George Burns? Morgan Freeman?

Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 06:00:06 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:47:17 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
>>duke wrote:
>>>
>>> To prove my point, the RCC in the US has grown 10% in the last 10 years.
>
>>1. The US population has grown 10% in the last 10 years.
>
>Yep.
>
>>2. The Catholic Church forces babies to be baptized and counted as
>>Catholics.
>>See how that works?
>
>The CC can't force anybody to be baptized. Parents do that.

Force is force, no matter the vector.

All you've done is shit the dishonesty from the Catholic Church to
Catholics.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.



>

Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 06:05:37 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 20:52:32 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:47:17 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:16:42 -0700 (PDT), harry k <tur...@q.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> It's called demographics.  From the inner city to the suburbs.  And it's called
>>>>> consolidation replacing small schools.
>>>>> Gosh, it's embarrassing, isn't it.
>>>
>>>>IOW it's about pruning the tree to eliminate unproductive branches.
>>>>Ever hear about consolidation to economize?
>>>
>>>When most of the Catholics have moved out of a region with Catholic Schools,
>>>then one closes the school and moves to where the Catholics are. And the
>>>Catholics well welcome the Church following. You see how that works?
>
>>Then how come enrolment in Catholic schools is falling precipitously,
>>Dook?
>
>>2002-2003 2,553,277
>>2007-2008 2,270,913
>>2012-2012 2,001,740
>
>Superior private education is expensive.

So?

You claimed that it was just a matter of consolidation, when it's
clearly -not-, Dook.

Closing schools is a matter of falling attendance.

You were LYING.

>>Maybe birth rates have fallen off enough to account for the decline?
>
>>2001 4,025,933 14.1
>>2002 4,021,726 13.9
>>2003 4,089,950 14.1
>>2004 4,112,052 14.0
>>2005 4,138,349 14.0
>>2009 4,131,019 13.8
>
>>Nope. That's not it.
>>You got some 'splainin' to do, boy.
>
>Cyclic things go both ways. Church attendance, religious vocations, lay
>ministries are growing rapidly - just as God calls us to.

None of the above it true.

Church attendance is not growing, and those who attend church are
increasingly elderly.

Those entering religious vocations are increasingly from third world
countries with poor educational systems, and are far to few to make up
for the far larger rejection of Catholicism by the better educated.

Any growth of lay ministries is just another symptom of the general
failure of the RCC to find enough people willing to become priests.

A very gloomy picture indeed, for you Catholics.

You can harbor your delusions, Dook.

But, you're delusions don't trump reality.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.



>

Dreamer In Colore

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:49:28 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:53:20 -0400, Dreamer In Colore
><dreamer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:42:56 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:40:46 -0500, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Why not? God and I talk every day.
>>>>It's amazing how many psychopaths (including yourself) walk around free
>>>>when they should be in a mental institution.
>>>
>>>You must be a really, really bad person if God doesn't try to talk to you.
>
>>So then by this stunning logic, you must be better than God because
>>you keep talking to me every day.
>
>What I talk about with God is different than what I talk to you about. You
>won't talk to God, so he asked me to do it. You see, God works thru other
>people.
>

You should ask him about the Chilean who burned a baby alive because
he thought it was the Antichrist.

If God says it was Satan who actually talked to that psychotic freak,
how can you be sure it's God actually talking to you, Dorkster?

Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306

•RLMeasures

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In article <a6gvn8d3m429mitck...@6ax.com>,
Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:49:28 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:53:20 -0400, Dreamer In Colore
> ><dreamer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:42:56 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:40:46 -0500, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Why not? God and I talk every day.
> >>>>It's amazing how many psychopaths (including yourself) walk around free
> >>>>when they should be in a mental institution.
> >>>
> >>>You must be a really, really bad person if God doesn't try to talk to you.
> >
> >>So then by this stunning logic, you must be better than God because
> >>you keep talking to me every day.
> >
> >What I talk about with God is different than what I talk to you about. You
> >won't talk to God, so he asked me to do it. You see, God works thru other
> >people.
>
> So, Dook...
>
> Now you're claiming to speak for God.
>
*** He's claimed this for at least the last several years Otto.

harry k

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Apr 30, 2013, 11:27:28 AM4/30/13
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On Apr 30, 3:54 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqkl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Apr 29, 1:43 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
>
> >> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> Why not? ?God and I talk every day.
> >> >When he tells you to "purge" the city, please call
> >> >911.  You'll thank me.
> >> Oh, I can't purge.  God alone does that.
> >God purges cities?
> >He purges entire cities?
> >Weren't you the guy telling us just today, that "God
> >never ever hurts one person"?
>
> Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.
>
> The dukester, American - American
>

So the people he purges with floods, fire, brimstone, plagues, etc.
don't hurt while eing pruged.

Do you _ever_ engage your brain? It has to be the most unused one in
hte universe.

Harry K

•RLMeasures

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Apr 30, 2013, 11:41:19 AM4/30/13
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In article
<a19397c7-0acd-4400...@mq5g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>, harry
k <tur...@q.com> wrote:

> On Apr 30, 3:54=A0am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqkl...@gmai=
> l.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Apr 29, 1:43=A0pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
> >
> > >> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> >> Why not? ?God and I talk every day.
> > >> >When he tells you to "purge" the city, please call
> > >> >911. =A0You'll thank me.
> > >> Oh, I can't purge. =A0God alone does that.
> > >God purges cities?
> > >He purges entire cities?
> > >Weren't you the guy telling us just today, that "God
> > >never ever hurts one person"?
> >
> > Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.
> >
> > The dukester, American - American
> >
>
> So the people he purges with floods, fire, brimstone, plagues, etc.
> don't hurt while eing pruged.
>
> Do you _ever_ engage your brain? It has to be the most unused one in
> hte universe.
>
> Harry K

• Harry == it's dangerous to Faith for a full time RCC apologist to
engage his/her brain.

Uncle Vic

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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:4a8vn8phc0nhsbajd...@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:53:20 -0400, Dreamer In Colore
> <dreamer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:42:56 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:40:46 -0500, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Why not? God and I talk every day.
>>>>It's amazing how many psychopaths (including yourself) walk around
>>>>free when they should be in a mental institution.
>>>
>>>You must be a really, really bad person if God doesn't try to talk to
>>>you.
>
>>So then by this stunning logic, you must be better than God because
>>you keep talking to me every day.
>
> What I talk about with God is different than what I talk to you about.
> You won't talk to God, so he asked me to do it. You see, God works
> thru other people.
>

The men in white coats are on their way, duke. I called them.

--
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I know.

He also claims that he's not really speaking for God when one presses
him on it, while he tells one what God wants.

Sort of the same way he doesn't judge others as he's telling them
they're going to hell.


Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:54:10 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqk...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Apr 29, 1:43�pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
>>>
>>> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> >> Why not? ?God and I talk every day.
>>> >When he tells you to "purge" the city, please call
>>> >911. You'll thank me.
>>> Oh, I can't purge. God alone does that.
>
>>God purges cities?
>>He purges entire cities?
>
>>Weren't you the guy telling us just today, that "God
>>never ever hurts one person"?
>
>Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.

That fire and brimstone, it was just to keep them warm on a chilly
desert night.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.




>

�RLMeasures

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In article <hvi0o8t3rmrndpe15...@6ax.com>,
� he seems to relish the thought of others burning forever. If gluttony
is one of the seven deadly sins, he may be spending more time in RC
Purgatory than he planned.

Dakota

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On 4/30/2013 5:14 PM, Uncle Vic wrote:
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
> news:4a8vn8phc0nhsbajd...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:53:20 -0400, Dreamer In Colore
>> <dreamer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:42:56 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:40:46 -0500, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Why not? God and I talk every day.
>>>>> It's amazing how many psychopaths (including yourself) walk around
>>>>> free when they should be in a mental institution.
>>>>
>>>> You must be a really, really bad person if God doesn't try to talk to
>>>> you.
>>
>>> So then by this stunning logic, you must be better than God because
>>> you keep talking to me every day.
>>
>> What I talk about with God is different than what I talk to you about.
>> You won't talk to God, so he asked me to do it. You see, God works
>> thru other people.
>>
>
> The men in white coats are on their way, duke. I called them.
>
Any god that would ask Ducky to be its representative has no right to
claim omniscience.

<irrelevant newsgroups snipped>

nature bats last

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On Apr 30, 3:54 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqkl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Apr 29, 1:43 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
>
> >> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> Why not? ?God and I talk every day.
> >> >When he tells you to "purge" the city, please call
> >> >911.  You'll thank me.
> >> Oh, I can't purge.  God alone does that.

;
> >God purges cities?
> >He purges entire cities?

;
> >Weren't you the guy telling us just today, that "God
> >never ever hurts one person"?

;
> Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.

Ah. Like the way God cleansed Sodom and
Gomorrah. Nobody got hurt.


NBL

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On Apr 30, 6:37 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> duke wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqkl...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> On Apr 29, 1:43 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
> >> God purges cities?
> >> He purges entire cities?
>

;
> >> Weren't you the guy telling us just today, that "God
> >> never ever hurts one person"?

;
> > Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.

;
> And when the Romans put the nails through Christ's ankles that wasn't
> hurting, that was enhanced deterrence.

Hey, Jesus was a ranting heretic by any Jewish
standard. The crucifixion was merely a method of
"correcting heretics", a concept Dook has zero problems
with.


Next up: Dook whitewashes Ananias and Sapphira for our
edification and enlightenment.


NBL

harry k

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On Apr 30, 8:41 am, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
> In article
> <a19397c7-0acd-4400-8634-49f44c6df...@mq5g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>, harry
That's why the "powers" do not want the RCCs to read the babble.

Harry K

duke

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:05:43 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>Now you're claiming to speak for God.

Never have I made such a statement. I only repeat what he says.

duke

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 06:38:22 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:

>duke wrote:
>> What I talk about with God is different than what I talk to you about. You
>> won't talk to God, so he asked me to do it.
>What celebrity does God sound like. George Burns? Morgan Freeman?

The perfect message.

duke

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:57:25 -0400, Dreamer In Colore
<dreamer...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>What I talk about with God is different than what I talk to you about. You
>>won't talk to God, so he asked me to do it. You see, God works thru other
>>people.

>You should ask him about the Chilean who burned a baby alive because
>he thought it was the Antichrist.

Keep your head down.

duke

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:14:21 -0500, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:

>> What I talk about with God is different than what I talk to you about.
>> You won't talk to God, so he asked me to do it. You see, God works
>> thru other people.
>The men in white coats are on their way, duke. I called them.

They came, we talked, they now see UV as nuts.

duke

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:08:34 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>>> Oh, I can't purge. �God alone does that.
>>>You mean his followers.
>>Well, in a way, yes. People that avoid God never get the chance to be purged of
>>their repentant and forgiven sins.

>I think he was referring to the more active role Christians have
>played in purging people for not being Christian enough.

He asked, I answered.

duke

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 06:37:21 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:

>duke wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqk...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 29, 1:43 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
>>> God purges cities?
>>> He purges entire cities?
>>
>>> Weren't you the guy telling us just today, that "God
>>> never ever hurts one person"?
>>
>> Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.
>
>And when the Romans put the nails through Christ's ankles that wasn't
>hurting, that was enhanced deterrence.

??? Strange comment. God didn't put the nails there. Are you sure you're
following the discussion?

duke

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May 1, 2013, 7:20:30 AM5/1/13
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:47:42 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqk...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Apr 30, 6:37�am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>> duke wrote:
>> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqkl...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> On Apr 29, 1:43 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
>> >> God purges cities?
>> >> He purges entire cities?
>>
>
>;
>> >> Weren't you the guy telling us just today, that "God
>> >> never ever hurts one person"?
>
>;
>> > Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.
>
>;
>> And when the Romans put the nails through Christ's ankles that wasn't
>> hurting, that was enhanced deterrence.

>Hey, Jesus was a ranting heretic by any Jewish
>standard.

Actually, Jesus never gave out one call for help.

duke

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 08:27:28 -0700 (PDT), harry k <tur...@q.com> wrote:

>> Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.
>So the people he purges with floods, fire, brimstone, plagues, etc.
>don't hurt while eing pruged.

God didn't do that, and besides, it's not purging.

>Do you _ever_ engage your brain? It has to be the most unused one in
>hte universe.

Yes, yes I do, but you are too ignorant of biblical truth to understand my
responses. If you had spent any time in the bible, you'd easily make sense of
what I said.

See how that works.

The dukester, American - American

duke

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:46:21 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqk...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.
>Ah. Like the way God cleansed Sodom and
>Gomorrah. Nobody got hurt.

You still don't understand purging.

The dukester, American - American

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May 1, 2013, 7:34:20 AM5/1/13
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:27:01 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>>That's a bullshit statistic and we all know why it's a bullshit
>>>statistic.
>>I have the published data.
>I have published the data that shows why it's bullshit.

You didn't know how to comprehend the data.

>>Fewer schools means consolidation.
>Except that enrollment has also fallen precipitously.

Expensive.

>>Right at 100% of the drop in priests for the
>>last 50 years is replaced with permanent deacons.
>Were the health of the RCC as strong as you claim, replacing priests
>with deacons wouldn't be necessary.

They're not being "replaced". Deacons are usually married men well into life
and very knowing of the values of an engaging spiritual life.

>>A priest is a priest
>>regardless of his home country.

>The only place that people are still becoming priests are third world
>countries with poor educational systems.

God doesn't care where a man is born.

>That's why the RCC in the U.S. has to import them.
>>And youth is starting to come back in droves,
>>thanks to Catholic School education.

>Except they aren't.

In droves as well as new growth in priest formation.

>>Of course, the youth is also figuring out
>>that there's more to live and what society craps on them.

>They're also figuring out that the RCC is an archaic institution that
>has decreasing relevance to the modern world.

The priesthood was once filled by beginning at age 13. Now as growth is
returning, it's college educated men signing up.

duke

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 06:35:52 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:

>duke wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:47:17 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>
>>> duke wrote:
>>>> To prove my point, the RCC in the US has grown 10% in the last 10 years.
>>
>>> 1. The US population has grown 10% in the last 10 years.
>>
>> Yep.
>
>That means you are treading water. Ask Jason, he took Statistics for
>his undergrad academic work.

The records of the bishops is available online.

duke

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:42:08 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>The CC can't force anybody to be baptized. Parents do that.
>Force is force, no matter the vector.

8-week old infants don't object.

duke

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:51:36 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>Superior private education is expensive.
>So?

>You claimed that it was just a matter of consolidation, when it's
>clearly -not-, Dook.

No, I didn't.

duke

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:51:28 -0700, r...@somis.org (�RLMeasures) wrote:

NEVER............have I claimed to speak FOR God.

Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:43:15 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:51:28 -0700, r...@somis.org (�RLMeasures) wrote:
>
>>In article <a6gvn8d3m429mitck...@6ax.com>,
>>Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:49:28 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:53:20 -0400, Dreamer In Colore
>>> ><dreamer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:42:56 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:40:46 -0500, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> Why not? God and I talk every day.
>>> >>>>It's amazing how many psychopaths (including yourself) walk around free
>>> >>>>when they should be in a mental institution.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>You must be a really, really bad person if God doesn't try to talk to you.
>>> >
>>> >>So then by this stunning logic, you must be better than God because
>>> >>you keep talking to me every day.
>>> >
>>> >What I talk about with God is different than what I talk to you about. You
>>> >won't talk to God, so he asked me to do it. You see, God works thru other
>>> >people.
>>>
>>> So, Dook...
>>>
>>> Now you're claiming to speak for God.
>>>
>>*** He's claimed this for at least the last several years Otto.
>
>NEVER............have I claimed to speak FOR God.

I know Dook...

You don't claim to speak for God...

Well, except when you're claiming to speak for God.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.



>

Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:14:51 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:05:43 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>Now you're claiming to speak for God.
>
>Never have I made such a statement. I only repeat what he says.

That's called "Speaking for God", Dook.

It's also blasphemy.

Try and keep up, Dook.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.



>

Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:18:14 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:08:34 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>>>> Oh, I can't purge. �God alone does that.
>>>>You mean his followers.
>>>Well, in a way, yes. People that avoid God never get the chance to be purged of
>>>their repentant and forgiven sins.
>
>>I think he was referring to the more active role Christians have
>>played in purging people for not being Christian enough.
>
>He asked, I answered.

You answered the question you wanted to answer, Dook, not the one that
was asked.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.




>

Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:25:41 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:46:21 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqk...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>> Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.
>>Ah. Like the way God cleansed Sodom and
>>Gomorrah. Nobody got hurt.
>
>You still don't understand purging.

Yea...

Cities and virtually all of their inhabitants being wiped from the
earth is so subtle, I'm sure many misunderstand.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.



>

Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:34:20 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:27:01 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>>>That's a bullshit statistic and we all know why it's a bullshit
>>>>statistic.
>>>I have the published data.
>>I have published the data that shows why it's bullshit.
>
>You didn't know how to comprehend the data.

Yes, Dook, I do.

I'm just not a partisan Catholic in denial.


>>>Fewer schools means consolidation.
>>Except that enrollment has also fallen precipitously.
>
>Expensive.

Falling.

>
>>>Right at 100% of the drop in priests for the
>>>last 50 years is replaced with permanent deacons.
>>Were the health of the RCC as strong as you claim, replacing priests
>>with deacons wouldn't be necessary.
>
>They're not being "replaced". Deacons are usually married men well into life
>and very knowing of the values of an engaging spiritual life.

Deacons are a step down from priests, and are being used out of
necessity, not by choice.


>>>A priest is a priest
>>>regardless of his home country.
>
>>The only place that people are still becoming priests are third world
>>countries with poor educational systems.
>
>God doesn't care where a man is born.

He apparently cares how well they're educated.

That's self-evident because he so rarely calls people with good
educations to the priesthood.


>>That's why the RCC in the U.S. has to import them.
>>>And youth is starting to come back in droves,
>>>thanks to Catholic School education.
>
>>Except they aren't.
>
>In droves as well as new growth in priest formation.

Liar.

Youth involvement is falling and the number of priests in training is
far below what's necessary to keep up with normal attrition among the
priesthood.


>>>Of course, the youth is also figuring out
>>>that there's more to live and what society craps on them.
>
>>They're also figuring out that the RCC is an archaic institution that
>>has decreasing relevance to the modern world.
>
>The priesthood was once filled by beginning at age 13.

Not any more.

>Now as growth is
>returning, it's college educated men signing up.

In tiny numbers well below the needs of the RCC.

This is what it looks like when in institution starts dying, Dook.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.




>
>

Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:35:41 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:42:08 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>>The CC can't force anybody to be baptized. Parents do that.
>>Force is force, no matter the vector.
>
>8-week old infants don't object.

What do you think all that crying is about, Dook?

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.




>

Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:36:33 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:51:36 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>>Superior private education is expensive.
>>So?
>
>>You claimed that it was just a matter of consolidation, when it's
>>clearly -not-, Dook.
>
>No, I didn't.

Liar.

"It's called demographics. �From the inner city to the suburbs. �And
it's called consolidation replacing small schools.", you wrote.

As a rule, you rightards should try and avoid lying about something
you wrote just a few posts up thread.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.





>

Dreamer In Colore

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May 1, 2013, 10:10:37 AM5/1/13
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:47:42 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last
<seqk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Apr 30, 6:37�am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>> duke wrote:
>> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqkl...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> On Apr 29, 1:43 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
>> >> God purges cities?
>> >> He purges entire cities?
>>
>
>;
>> >> Weren't you the guy telling us just today, that "God
>> >> never ever hurts one person"?
>
>;
>> > Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.
>
>;
>> And when the Romans put the nails through Christ's ankles that wasn't
>> hurting, that was enhanced deterrence.
>
>Hey, Jesus was a ranting heretic by any Jewish
>standard. The crucifixion was merely a method of
>"correcting heretics", a concept Dook has zero problems
>with.
>
>

It's worse than that. Dork advocates for the crucifixion because it
means that suffering for the Original Sin and its subsequent erasure
is justified.

What's never been explained adequately is why an omnipotent deity that
has his own avatar murdered to set up a premise would actually need to
do that in the first place.

Why not something completely obvious and unambiguous? I'll be the
first one to start puckering and kissing supernatural posterior if I
see a whirlwind in a junkyard building a jet airliner.


Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306

�RLMeasures

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In article <klq26n$8ic$2...@dont-email.me>, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote:

> On 4/30/2013 5:14 PM, Uncle Vic wrote:
> > duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
> > news:4a8vn8phc0nhsbajd...@4ax.com:
> >
> >> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:53:20 -0400, Dreamer In Colore
> >> <dreamer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:42:56 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:40:46 -0500, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Why not? God and I talk every day.
> >>>>> It's amazing how many psychopaths (including yourself) walk around
> >>>>> free when they should be in a mental institution.
> >>>>
> >>>> You must be a really, really bad person if God doesn't try to talk to
> >>>> you.
> >>
> >>> So then by this stunning logic, you must be better than God because
> >>> you keep talking to me every day.
> >>
> >> What I talk about with God is different than what I talk to you about.
> >> You won't talk to God, so he asked me to do it. You see, God works
> >> thru other people.
> >>
> >
> > The men in white coats are on their way, duke. I called them.
> >
> Any god that would ask Ducky to be its representative has no right to
> claim omniscience.
>
� chortle. Duke is undoubtedly one of a kind.

�RLMeasures

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In article
<41d4fc3f-d268-48f9...@aw7g2000pbd.googlegroups.com>,
nature bats last <seqk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 30, 3:54=A0am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqkl...@gmai=
> l.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Apr 29, 1:43=A0pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
> >
> > >> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> >> Why not? ?God and I talk every day.
> > >> >When he tells you to "purge" the city, please call
> > >> >911. =A0You'll thank me.
> > >> Oh, I can't purge. =A0God alone does that.
>
> ;
> > >God purges cities?
> > >He purges entire cities?
>
> ;
> > >Weren't you the guy telling us just today, that "God
> > >never ever hurts one person"?
>
> ;
> > Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.
>
> Ah. Like the way God cleansed Sodom and
> Gomorrah. Nobody got hurt.
>
>
� guffaw.

�RLMeasures

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In article
<a25c4671-4b64-4270...@ys5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, harry
k <tur...@q.com> wrote:

> On Apr 30, 8:41=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95RLMeasures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <a19397c7-0acd-4400-8634-49f44c6df...@mq5g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>, harr=
> y
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > k <turn...@q.com> wrote:
> > > On Apr 30, 3:54=3DA0am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqkl...@=
> gmai=3D
> > > l.com>
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > >On Apr 29, 1:43=3DA0pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > >> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
> >
> > > > >> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >> Why not? ?God and I talk every day.
> > > > >> >When he tells you to "purge" the city, please call
> > > > >> >911. =3DA0You'll thank me.
> > > > >> Oh, I can't purge. =3DA0God alone does that.
> > > > >God purges cities?
> > > > >He purges entire cities?
> > > > >Weren't you the guy telling us just today, that "God
> > > > >never ever hurts one person"?
> >
> > > > Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.
> >
> > > > The dukester, American - American
> >
> > > So the people he purges with floods, fire, brimstone, plagues, etc.
> > > don't hurt while eing pruged.
> >
> > > Do you _ever_ engage your brain? =A0It has to be the most unused one in
> > > hte universe.
> >
> > > Harry K
> >
> > =95 =A0Harry =3D=3D it's dangerous to Faith for a full time RCC apologist=
> to
> > engage his/her brain.
>
> That's why the "powers" do not want the RCCs to read the babble.
>
> Harry K

� The damned Internet is probably the worst thing that ever befell RCism.

�RLMeasures

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In article <utv1o89tpooedrbqq...@4ax.com>, duke
� So you talk to Him but you do not repeat anything He says ?

Dreamer In Colore

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On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:16:26 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:57:25 -0400, Dreamer In Colore
><dreamer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>What I talk about with God is different than what I talk to you about. You
>>>won't talk to God, so he asked me to do it. You see, God works thru other
>>>people.
>
>>You should ask him about the Chilean who burned a baby alive because
>>he thought it was the Antichrist.
>
>Keep your head down.
>

Blu-ray is better than DVD.

See? I can play non-sequitur too, Dorkster.

Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306

Dreamer In Colore

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May 1, 2013, 12:43:46 PM5/1/13
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On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:35:41 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:42:08 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>>The CC can't force anybody to be baptized. Parents do that.
>>Force is force, no matter the vector.
>
>8-week old infants don't object.

8 week old infants aren't given the choice. They can't object. So much
for free will in your system.

Uncheered,
Dreamer
AA 2306

duke

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May 1, 2013, 1:26:37 PM5/1/13
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On Wed, 01 May 2013 09:32:34 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:


>>>> Now you're claiming to speak for God.
>>>*** He's claimed this for at least the last several years Otto.
>>NEVER............have I claimed to speak FOR God.

>I know Dook...

There you go.

duke

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May 1, 2013, 1:28:20 PM5/1/13
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You don't even know 1/100th of what he advised me.

duke

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May 1, 2013, 1:28:51 PM5/1/13
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On Wed, 01 May 2013 09:35:44 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:14:51 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:05:43 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>Now you're claiming to speak for God.
>>
>>Never have I made such a statement. I only repeat what he says.
>
>That's called "Speaking for God", Dook.

Maybe in your screwball world, but not mine.

duke

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May 1, 2013, 1:29:53 PM5/1/13
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On Wed, 01 May 2013 09:38:15 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:18:14 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:08:34 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>>>>> Oh, I can't purge. �God alone does that.
>>>I think he was referring to the more active role Christians have
>>>played in purging people for not being Christian enough.
>>He asked, I answered.

>You answered the question you wanted to answer, Dook, not the one that
>was asked.

The one I was asked.

duke

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May 1, 2013, 1:30:38 PM5/1/13
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On Wed, 01 May 2013 09:49:33 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:25:41 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:46:21 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqk...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>> Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.
>>>Ah. Like the way God cleansed Sodom and
>>>Gomorrah. Nobody got hurt.
>>
>>You still don't understand purging.
>
>Yea...
>
>Cities and virtually all of their inhabitants being wiped from the
>earth is so subtle, I'm sure many misunderstand.

That's not the purging in question. Neither is your daily enema.

duke

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May 1, 2013, 1:31:27 PM5/1/13
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On Wed, 01 May 2013 09:57:19 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>You didn't know how to comprehend the data.
>Yes, Dook, I do.
>I'm just not a partisan Catholic in denial.

If you did, you wouldn't say the things you do.

duke

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May 1, 2013, 1:32:17 PM5/1/13
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They don't get to decide to start school either, or get inoculations.

duke

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May 1, 2013, 1:32:56 PM5/1/13
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On Wed, 01 May 2013 10:02:52 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:36:33 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:51:36 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>>Superior private education is expensive.
>>>So?
>>
>>>You claimed that it was just a matter of consolidation, when it's
>>>clearly -not-, Dook.
>>
>>No, I didn't.
>
>Liar.

>"It's called demographics. �From the inner city to the suburbs. �And
>it's called consolidation replacing small schools.", you wrote.

But no "just".

Dreamer In Colore

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May 1, 2013, 1:44:36 PM5/1/13
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On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:14:51 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:05:43 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>Now you're claiming to speak for God.
>
>Never have I made such a statement. I only repeat what he says.
>

Errrmm... That IS speaking for God. Your sky pixie can't talk for
himself, so he uses you as his mouthpiece.

Which makes me wonder... if he was so omnipotent, why would he choose
an ignorant dork? Is it for the same reason that he chose illiterate
peasants back in the day?

<alt.abortion and soc.women snipped for relevance>


Cheers,
Dreamer
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Dreamer In Colore

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May 1, 2013, 2:40:36 PM5/1/13
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On Wed, 01 May 2013 12:32:17 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 01 May 2013 12:43:46 -0400, Dreamer In Colore
><dreamer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:35:41 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:42:08 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>>The CC can't force anybody to be baptized. Parents do that.
>>>>Force is force, no matter the vector.
>>>
>>>8-week old infants don't object.
>>
>>8 week old infants aren't given the choice. They can't object. So much
>>for free will in your system.
>
>They don't get to decide to start school either, or get inoculations.
>

Ah, but schooling gives you things like math and reading, which are
pretty useful in the grand scheme of things. Inoculations stop
disease....

Again, those are measurable things. Faith and religion aren't, so
they're not supported at the government level, much though you hate
that.

If the idea of supporting a God requires forcing it on a child without
allowing the child the freedom of choice about something so important,
then perhaps the God's benefits are not so obvious.

Educational benefits are obvious: you get a job with education.
Inoculation benefits are obvious: you don't get diseases.

Christian benefits are a little harder to quantify, and as such ought
to be deferred until the child can think for itself.

Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306

Dakota

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May 1, 2013, 2:56:11 PM5/1/13
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Why would a Christian wait until their precious kid is eight-weeks-old
before baptizing it? Don't they know that the god they worship will
send the kid to burn in hell for eternity if it dies before being
sprinkled with "holy" water while some guy wearing weird clothes
chants some nonsense?

Silen...@hotmail.com

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May 1, 2013, 4:13:34 PM5/1/13
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On Wed, 01 May 2013 12:26:37 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 01 May 2013 09:32:34 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>>>> Now you're claiming to speak for God.
>>>>*** He's claimed this for at least the last several years Otto.
>>>NEVER............have I claimed to speak FOR God.
>
>>I know Dook...
>
>There you go.

I know Dook...

You don't claim to speak for God...

Well, except when you're claiming to speak for God.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.




>

Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Wed, 01 May 2013 12:28:51 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 01 May 2013 09:35:44 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:14:51 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:05:43 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>Now you're claiming to speak for God.
>>>
>>>Never have I made such a statement. I only repeat what he says.
>>
>>That's called "Speaking for God", Dook.
>
>Maybe in your screwball world, but not mine.

As previously noted, your world has little to do with -this- world.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.

>

Silen...@hotmail.com

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May 1, 2013, 4:22:36 PM5/1/13
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On Wed, 01 May 2013 12:29:53 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 01 May 2013 09:38:15 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:18:14 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:08:34 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Oh, I can't purge. �God alone does that.
>>>>I think he was referring to the more active role Christians have
>>>>played in purging people for not being Christian enough.
>>>He asked, I answered.
>
>>You answered the question you wanted to answer, Dook, not the one that
>>was asked.
>
>The one I was asked.

You're obviously still trying to deny all blood the Christianity and
it's followers have on their hands.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.




>

Silen...@hotmail.com

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May 1, 2013, 4:25:04 PM5/1/13
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On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:19:51 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 06:37:21 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
>>duke wrote:
>>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT), nature bats last <seqk...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Apr 29, 1:43 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
>>>> God purges cities?
>>>> He purges entire cities?
>>>
>>>> Weren't you the guy telling us just today, that "God
>>>> never ever hurts one person"?
>>>
>>> Purging mean "cleaning", not hurting.
>>
>>And when the Romans put the nails through Christ's ankles that wasn't
>>hurting, that was enhanced deterrence.
>
>??? Strange comment. God didn't put the nails there. Are you sure you're
>following the discussion?

You keep telling us that it was all part of the "big plan", so to
speak.

If it's God's plan, then they were God's nails.

You see how that works, Dook?

Good thing the RICO act wasn't around then.

Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Wed, 01 May 2013 12:29:53 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 01 May 2013 09:38:15 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:18:14 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:08:34 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Oh, I can't purge. �God alone does that.
>>>>I think he was referring to the more active role Christians have
>>>>played in purging people for not being Christian enough.
>>>He asked, I answered.
>
>>You answered the question you wanted to answer, Dook, not the one that
>>was asked.
>
>The one I was asked.

Actually, he didn't ask a question.

He made a comment noting that the only purging anyone ever sees going
on is done by God's followers, not God.

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.


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