On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:45:29 -0500, duke <
duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:03:14 -0400,
Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
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>>>>>It's called demographics. From the inner city to the suburbs. And it's called
>>>>>consolidation replacing small schools.
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>>>>No, Dook.
>>>>
>>>>It's called a bullshit excuse to try and distract from the fact that
>>>>the RCC is finding it difficult to persuade an increasingly educated
>>>>populace that their cult has anything worthwhile to offer.
>>>
>>>Demographics says you're wrong - as usual.
>>No, Dook.
>>Demographics says I'm right.
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>To prove my point, the RCC in the US has grown 10% in the last 10 years.
That's a bullshit statistic and we all know why it's a bullshit
statistic.
Repeating it won't make it stop being a bullshit statistic.
Virtually every other measure of the health of the RCC is a negative,
from fewer schools, fewer priests, more imported priests, the average
age of members... everything.
There's a reason for that, Dook.
The decline of the Catholic Clergy in the U.S.A.
Priests
Between 1930 and 1965, the number of priests in the United States more
than doubled to 58,000.
Since then the number has fallen to 45,000.
By 2020, there will be only 31,000 priests left, and more than half of
these priests will be over 70. ----> Get ready for the BIG CRASH,
Dook.
In 1965, 1,575 new priests were ordained in the United States. In
2002, the number was 450.
In 1965, only 1% of U.S. parishes were without a priest. In 2002 this
number is 15%.
Between 1965 and 2002, the number of seminarians dropped from 49,000
to 4,700.
Two-thirds of the 600 seminaries that were operating in 1965 have now
closed.
Religious Orders.
In 1965, there were 179,954 women in Catholic religious orders. By
2002, that had fallen to 75,000, in 2005 it was 68,634 and the average
age of a Catholic nun is today 68.
In 1965, 3,559 young men were studying to become Jesuit priests. In
2000, the figure was 389.
With the Christian Brothers, the situation is even more dire. Their
number has now shrunk by two-thirds. In 1965, there were 912
seminarians in the Christian Brothers. In 2000, there were only 7.
The number of young men studying to become Franciscan and Redemptorist
priests fell from 3,379 in 1965 to 84 in 2000.
The decline of the Catholic Laity in the U.S.A.
Catholic schools.
Almost half of all Catholic high schools in the United States have
closed since 1965.
The student population has fallen from 700,000 to 386,000.
----> So much for you consolidation argument.
Parochial schools have suffered even worse. Some 4,000 have shut down,
and the number of pupils has fallen from 4.5 million to just under 2
million.
----> Confirmed again.
Catholic Marriage.
Catholic marriages have fallen in number by one-third since 1965.
The annual number of annulments has soared from 338 in 1968 to 50,000
in 2002.
Attendance at Mass.
In 1958, a Gallup Poll reported that 74% of Catholics then attended
church on Sundays.
In 1965, it seems that 65% attended, according to a recent Fordham
University study.
In 1994, it seems that 27% attended church, according to study by the
University of Notre Dame.
In 2000, the rate was 25%, according to the Fordham study.
Indicative beliefs
70% of all Catholics in the age group 18 to 44 believe the Eucharist
is a "symbolic reminder" of Jesus.
90% of lay religious teachers reject church teaching on contraception.
53% believe a Catholic can have an abortion and remain a good
Catholic.
65% believe that Catholics may divorce and remarry.
75% believe one can be a good Catholic without attending mass on
Sundays.
First they stop being devout Catholics, then they stop being
Catholics, then they stop being religious.
Heh heh...
Lying racist rightard socialists...
Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.
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