ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACHING BLASPHEMY ACCEPTABLE
Nicholas II
not? ALL Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, nuns, deacons, and lay people
call the Pope "Holy Father" do they not? So much so, that the media as
well as EVERY CATHOLIC calls him holy father as well. However, the
Word of God defines blasphemy in this manner...
John 10:33, "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone
thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man,
makest thyself God."
How is calling the Pope "holy father" blasphmey?
John 17:11, "And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the
world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name
those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are."
JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF CALLED HIS HEAVENLY FATHER "HOLY FATHER"!
To call the Pope the SAME NAME Jesus called God Almighty is to
proclaim the Pope "GOD ON EARTH!"
Fact is folks... your Pope has been proclaiming that for years...
Fact: "The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, he is
Jesus Christ himself, hidden under the veil of flesh." Catholic
National July 1895.
Fact: Roman Catholic Pope states "We hold upon this earth the place of
God Almighty" ...Pope Leo XIII
Fact: "For thou art the shepherd, thou art the physician, thou art the
director, thou art the husbandman, finally thou art another God on
earth." Labbe and Cossart's "History of the Councils." Vol. XIV, col.
109
Fact: The title "Lord God the Pope" is found within a gloss of
Extravagantes of Pope John XXII, title 14, chapter 4
Fact: Blasphemy is also defined: Mark 2:7, "Why doth this man thus
speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?"
Fact: The "confessional" of the Roman Catholic Church is indeed yet
another identifiable feature exposing the Vatican as Antichrist's
dwelling. They openly declare a MAN dressed as a priest has the power
to FORGIVE SINS!
Want almost 2000 pages of PROOF the Pope is Antichrist? Stop by...
www.RemnantofGod.org
...Nicholas
Truth is truth!
PH
talking about this? About the distinction between the term heavenly father
and holy father? They make it very vwery clear that they are refferring to
the pope when they say holy father. If you know what its in reference to,
it is harmless.
Thornhill Broome
by Superior Bible Verses.
Now go away, you selective Bible readers(--ignore what doesnt fit) are a
broken record in here!!
"Nicholas II" <nich...@remnantofgod.org> wrote in message
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Edward Curtis
says...
> To call the Pope the SAME NAME Jesus called God Almighty is to
> proclaim the Pope "GOD ON EARTH!"
No it is not...more lies from Nick.
> Fact is folks... your Pope has been proclaiming that for years...
>
> Fact: "The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, he is
> Jesus Christ himself, hidden under the veil of flesh." Catholic
> National July 1895.
Not an official Catholic source.
> Fact: Roman Catholic Pope states "We hold upon this earth the place of
> God Almighty" ...Pope Leo XIII
Because the Pope is God's REPRESENTATIVE....Not God nor a replacement for
God.
> Fact: "For thou art the shepherd, thou art the physician, thou art the
> director, thou art the husbandman, finally thou art another God on
> earth." Labbe and Cossart's "History of the Councils." Vol. XIV, col.
> 109
What is the context of this? Which Council is this from? Who are Labbe
and Cossart? What are their credentials?
In any case this is not Catholic doctrine.
> Fact: The title "Lord God the Pope" is found within a gloss of
> Extravagantes of Pope John XXII, title 14, chapter 4
Refuted here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=11643-35960A52-39%40newsd-
101.iap.bryant.webtv.net&rnum=1
Basically Nick is going by a bad translation. It actually says "Pope of
our Lord God".
> Fact: Blasphemy is also defined: Mark 2:7, "Why doth this man thus
> speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?"
>
> Fact: The "confessional" of the Roman Catholic Church is indeed yet
> another identifiable feature exposing the Vatican as Antichrist's
> dwelling. They openly declare a MAN dressed as a priest has the power
> to FORGIVE SINS!
The Catholic Church teaches that only God forgives sins, but he does so
through the agency of His priests. See John 20:23.
Edward
Edward Curtis
says...
> > Fact: "For thou art the shepherd, thou art the physician, thou art the
> > director, thou art the husbandman, finally thou art another God on
> > earth." Labbe and Cossart's "History of the Councils." Vol. XIV, col.
> > 109
>
> What is the context of this? Which Council is this from? Who are Labbe
> and Cossart? What are their credentials?
I just answered my own question...the same link, below, in which the
"Lord God the Pope" nonsense is refuted, the author also says she can't
find this "History of the Councils" anywhere. Doing another usenet
search, I found out that it is not in the Library of Congress.
Edward
Edward Curtis
> > director, thou art the husbandman, finally thou art another God on
> > earth." Labbe and Cossart's "History of the Councils." Vol. XIV, col.
> > 109
>
> What is the context of this? Which Council is this from? Who are Labbe
> and Cossart? What are their credentials?
>
> In any case this is not Catholic doctrine.
OK, last post on this:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08718b.htm
Philippe L'Abbe
Born at Borges, 10 July, 1607; died at Paris, at the
College of Clermont, 17 (16) March, 1667; a distinguished Jesuit writer
on historical, geographical, and philological questions.
Apparently his major work, with Cossart, was "Sacrosancta concilia ad
regiam editionem exacta" -- a collection of councils. So apparently the
original is in Latin, which would explain its not being found in the
Library of Congress.
2 points:
1 -- It is possible the above quote provided by Nick is a mistranslation;
the burden of proof is on him to show the translation is correct.
2 -- Even if the translation is correct, the idea that the Pope "is
another God on Earth" is contrary to Catholic doctrine, and whoever made
the statement was in error.
Edward
Edward Curtis
I looked up "Pope" in the index of the Catechism, followed the
crossreferences.
NOWHERE in any of the references is the Pope referred to as God.
If it's not in the Catechism, it's not official doctrine.
End of story.
bam
numerous lies are exposed he walks away thinking, "Oh well, who cares,
they're so bad that one misstatement here or there doesn't matter anyway."
BAM
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"Nicholas II" <nich...@remnantofgod.org> wrote in message
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not?
> ALL Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, nuns, deacons, and lay people call
the Pope "Holy Father" do they not? So much so, that the media as
> well as EVERY CATHOLIC calls him holy father as well.
You've been exposed to be a wrong already... I don't call him that...
nor do most Catholics I know... He's called the Pope.
But, here...
http://catholicoutlook.com/objpope9.html
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>Did you know they actually spend an entire session of alter server training
>talking about this? About the distinction between the term heavenly father
>and holy father? They make it very vwery clear that they are refferring to
>the pope when they say holy father. If you know what its in reference to,
>it is harmless.
Never realised it was possible to lisp in text :)
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"Alan Ferris" <al...@ildana.com> wrote in message
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> "PH" <Wild...@optonline.net> wrote ...
> >Did you know they actually spend an entire session of alter server
training
> >talking about this? About the distinction between the term heavenly
father
> >and holy father? They make it very vwery clear that they are
refferring to
> ^^^^^
> >the pope when they say holy father. If you know what its in
reference to,
> >it is harmless.
>
> Never realised it was possible to lisp in text :)
>
(sorry PH.. couldn't resist tagging along on Alan's comment. :-))
Nicholas II
The Bible has Jesus Christ Himself using the term HOLY FATHER as a
title for His Heavenly Father. And all the Catholics call the Pope THE
EXACT SAME TITLE.
What word did you not understand?
Plus... I notice no comments of all the Pope's CLAIMING TO BE GOD ON
EARTH? Did you miss that connection as well?
...No I don't think you did. You DID avoid it though
...Nicholas
www.RemnantofGod.org
Nicholas II
> You dont know your bible very well, every one of your verses can be trumped
> by Superior Bible Verses.
>
> Now go away, you selective Bible readers(--ignore what doesnt fit) are a
> broken record in here!!
Why is it those that DON'T believe the Bible always seem to "say" they
can prove the Bible wrong by using the Bible? Yet... THEY NEVER POST
THE SO CALLED "SUPERIOR BIBLE VERSES?"
Obvious!
...Nicholas
www.RemnantofGod.org
Edward Curtis
says...
> Plus... I notice no comments of all the Pope's CLAIMING TO BE GOD ON
> EARTH? Did you miss that connection as well?
You're reading selectively Nicholas...I have refuted your quotes
elsewhere in this thread.
Nicholas II
LOL... look Ed...when you get your thoughts togther, put them to
paper. Then post them ONCE! LOL...
...Nicholas
www.RemnantofGod.org
Nicholas II
> "Nicholas II" <nich...@remnantofgod.org> wrote in message
> news:f23369b9.02012...@posting.google.com...
> > ALL Catholics are taught to call the Pope the "Holy Father" are they
> not?
> No... we are not... I refer to him as the Pope.
>
> > ALL Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, nuns, deacons, and lay people call
> the Pope "Holy Father" do they not? So much so, that the media as
> > well as EVERY CATHOLIC calls him holy father as well.
>
> You've been exposed to be a wrong already... I don't call him that...
> nor do most Catholics I know... He's called the Pope.
>
> But, here...
> http://catholicoutlook.com/objpope9.html
Ya know what's wierd here? MILLIONS of articles. (I'm not kidding!)
MILLIONS of them have been posted in every single newspaper as well as
on Radio and TV of Catholics calling the Poep "Holy Father" and this
guy says they don't? And ya know what's even worse? A whole mess of
Catholics that read his statement actually believed it over the truth
I shared. Why?
well... it's just another prophecy coming to light folks...
2 Thessalonians 2:11, "And for this cause God shall send them strong
delusion, that they should believe a lie:"
Wow! Such 100% accuracy!
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Thanks for taking my bait:
Care to comment about the content of I corinthians 4:14-15.
Edward Curtis
doing so, and this is my last reply to him.
In article <f23369b9.02012...@posting.google.com>, Nicholas II
says...
> To call the Pope the SAME NAME Jesus called God Almighty is to
> proclaim the Pope "GOD ON EARTH!"
This idea is refuted here:
http://catholicoutlook.com/objpope9.html
> Fact is folks... your Pope has been proclaiming that for years...
>
> Fact: "The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, he is
> Jesus Christ himself, hidden under the veil of flesh." Catholic
> National July 1895.
Not an official Catholic source.
> Fact: Roman Catholic Pope states "We hold upon this earth the place of
> God Almighty" ...Pope Leo XIII
Out of context.
The full quote, from THE REUNION OF CHRISTENDOM (Praeclara
Gratulationis Publicae) dated June 20, 1894 is as follows:
"But since We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty, Who will
have all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the Truth, and
now that Our advanced age and the bitterness of anxious cares urge Us on
towards the end common to every mortal, We feel drawn to follow the
example of Our Redeemer and Master, Jesus Christ, Who, when about to
return to Heaven, implored of God, His Father, in earnest Prayer, that
His Disciples anf followers should be of one mind and of one heart: I
pray . . . that they all may be one, as Thou Father in Me, and I in Thee:
that they also may be one in Us. And as this Divine Prayer and
supplication does not include only the souls who then believed in Jesus
Christ, but also every one of those who were henceforth to believe in
Him, this Prayer holds out to Us no indifferent reason for confidently
expressing Our hopes, and for making all possible endeavors in order that
the men of every race and clime should be called and moved to embrace the
Unity of Divine Faith."
Further on:
"Pressed on to Our intent by Charity, that hastens fastest there where
the need is greatest, We direct Our first thoughts to those most
unfortunate of all nations who have never received the light of the
Gospel, or who, after having possessed it, have lost it through
neglect or the vicissitudes of time: Hence do they ignore God, and
live in the depths of error. Now, as all salvation comes from Jesus
Christ--for there is no other Name under Heaven given to men whereby
we must be saved--Our ardent desire is that the most Holy Name
of Jesus should rapidly pervade and fill every land."
And toward the end of same encyclical:
"May God, Who is rich in Mercy, and in Whose Power are the times and
moments, grant Our wishes and desires, and in His great Goodness, hasten
the fulfillment of that Divine Promise of Jesus Christ: There will be One
Fold and One Shepherd."
Source: http://www.users.qwest.net/~slrorer/ReunionOfChristendom.htm
It is obvious when read in context that:
1 - Leo XIII did not consider himself to be God,
2 - Even more significantly, he confessed Jesus Christ as the name
through whom salvation comes.
> Fact: "For thou art the shepherd, thou art the physician, thou art the
> director, thou art the husbandman, finally thou art another God on
> earth." Labbe and Cossart's "History of the Councils." Vol. XIV, col.
> 109
I did a Google search on this phrase. It is claimed on many websites
that a priest addressed the Pope of the time, Julius II, at the 5th
Lateran Council with these words.
However, this quote does not appear in the official documents of that
council. What is in the documents flatly contradicts Nicholas' claim.
The source of the following quotes is the documents of the Fifth Lateran
Council, found at
http://www.geocities.com/catholicsource/councils/ecum09.htm
"Julius, bishop, servant of the servants of God, with the approval of the
sacred council, for an everlasting record. We intend, with the help of
the most High, to proceed with the holding of this sacred Lateran council
which has now begun for the praise of God, the peace of the whole church,
the union of the faithful the overthrow of heresies and schisms, the
reform of morals, and the campaign against the dangerous enemies of the
faith, so that the mouths of all schismatics and enemies of peace, those
howling dogs, may be silenced and Christians may be able to keep
themselves unstained from such pernicious and poisonous contagion."
(Session 2, 17 May 1512)
Julius refers to Julius II, the Pope at the time of the council's
convening. The phrase, "Julius [or Leo], bishop, servant of the servants
of God, [with the approval of the sacred council], for an everlasting
record", appears numerous times throughout the council documents ("with
the approval of the sacred council" is sometimes omitted).
Most striking against Nicholas' accusation that the Pope
considered/considers himself God is the following:
"Leo, bishop, servant of the servants of God, with the approval of the
sacred council, for an everlasting record. It is eminently fitting for
the Roman pontiff to carry out the duty of a provident shepherd, in order
to care for and keep safe the Lord's flock entrusted to him by God,
since, by the will of the supreme ordinance by which the things of heaven
and of earth are arranged by ineffable providence, he acts on the lofty
throne of St Peter as vicar on earth of Christ, the only-begotten Son of
God." (Bull on reform of the curia, Session 9, 5 May 1514)
For those who are slow...we see in the above quote that the "Lord's
flock" is "entrusted to the Roman Pontiff (the Pope) by God". CLEARLY
establishing the Pope and God as SEPARATE BEINGS.
> Fact: The title "Lord God the Pope" is found within a gloss of
> Extravagantes of Pope John XXII, title 14, chapter 4
Refuted here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=11643-35960A52-39%40newsd-
101.iap.bryant.webtv.net&rnum=1
Basically Nick is going by a bad translation. It actually says "Pope of
our Lord God".
Edward
JCarew
"Nicholas II" <nich...@remnantofgod.org> wrote in message
>Fact: "The Pope is not only the representative of
>Jesus Christ, he is Jesus Christ himself, hidden
>under the veil of flesh." Catholic National July
>1895.
As I'm sure your aware the article your quoting has to
have a "Imprimatur" and a "Nihil Obstat" to be considered
as official by the Catholic Church. Could please give us
the names of the "Imprimatur" and the "Nihil Obstat" for
this article.
Thanks
Jim Carew sfo
bam
"Nicholas II" <nich...@remnantofgod.org> wrote
>
> Why is it those that DON'T believe the Bible always seem to "say" they
> can prove the Bible wrong by using the Bible? Yet... THEY NEVER POST
> THE SO CALLED "SUPERIOR BIBLE VERSES?"
>
> Obvious!
>
> ...Nicholas
> www.RemnantofGod.org
Nickie - I told you to stay in your room today. Can't you see we have
company? Stop sticking your head in the living room and saying dumb things
and running away.
Your Mother
Will Nordmeyer
> "PH" <Wild...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:<nSJ38.13617$6L5.2...@news02.optonline.net>...
> > Did you know they actually spend an entire session of alter server
training
> > talking about this? About the distinction between the term heavenly
father
> > and holy father? They make it very vwery clear that they are
refferring to
> > the pope when they say holy father. If you know what its in
reference to,
> > it is harmless.
>
> The Bible has Jesus Christ Himself using the term HOLY FATHER as a
> title for His Heavenly Father. And all the Catholics call the Pope THE
> EXACT SAME TITLE.
>
> What word did you not understand?
>
>
> Plus... I notice no comments of all the Pope's CLAIMING TO BE GOD ON
> EARTH? Did you miss that connection as well?
>
usual...
Will Nordmeyer
"Nicholas II" <nich...@remnantofgod.org> wrote in message
news:f23369b9.02012...@posting.google.com...
> "Will Nordmeyer" <wi...@nospam.daytondigital.net> wrote in message
news:<3c500123$1...@news5.uncensored-news.com>...
> > "Nicholas II" <nich...@remnantofgod.org> wrote in message
> > news:f23369b9.02012...@posting.google.com...
> > > ALL Catholics are taught to call the Pope the "Holy Father" are
they
> > not?
> > No... we are not... I refer to him as the Pope.
> >
> > > ALL Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, nuns, deacons, and lay people
call
> > the Pope "Holy Father" do they not? So much so, that the media as
> > > well as EVERY CATHOLIC calls him holy father as well.
> >
> > You've been exposed to be a wrong already... I don't call him
that...
> > nor do most Catholics I know... He's called the Pope.
> >
> > But, here...
> > http://catholicoutlook.com/objpope9.html
>
> Ya know what's wierd here? MILLIONS of articles. (I'm not kidding!)
> MILLIONS of them have been posted in every single newspaper as well as
> on Radio and TV of Catholics calling the Poep "Holy Father" and this
> guy says they don't?
No... you didn't read... I said I don't... I said MOST of the Catholics
I know... we call him the Pope.
BUT, I see you didn't address the link that corrects you...
Did you ever read 1 Cor 4:14-15? When Paul calls himself the
Corinthians Father in Faith?
> And ya know what's even worse? A whole mess of
> Catholics that read his statement actually believed it over the truth
> I shared. Why?
>
Because you didn't share truth... you shared ignorance.
Nicholas II
...snip the lies...
now for the REAL truth... (Watch folks... he will give up on the
PARTIAL list of facts I share below...)
"Innocent III has written: "Indeed, it is not top much to say that in
view of the sublimity of their offices the priests are so many gods."
-The dignity of the priesthood by Liguori p, 36
"The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, he is Jesus
Christ himself, hidden under the veil of flesh." Catholic National
July 1895.
"We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty" ...Pope Leo XIII
Encyclical Letter of June 20, 1894,
"For thou art the shepherd, thou art the physician, thou art the
director, thou art the husbandman, finally thou art another God on
earth." Labbe and Cossart's "History of the Councils." Vol. XIV, col.
109
The title "Lord God the Pope" is found within a gloss of Extravagantes
of Pope John XXII, title 14, chapter 4,
In an Antwerp edition of the Extravagantes, the words, "Dominum Deum
Nostrum Papam" (Our Lord God the Pope) can be found in column 153. In
a Paris edition, they are found in column 140.
"Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown, as king of Heaven and
earth, and purgatory." Prompta Bibliotheca," Feraris, Vol. VI, p. 26,
art. "Papa."
Roman Catholic Canon Law stipulates through Pope Innocent III that the
Roman pontiff is "the vicegerent upon earth, not a mere man, but of a
very God;" and in a gloss on the passage it is explained that this is
because he is the vicegerent of Christ, who is "very God and very
man." Decretales Domini Gregorii translatione Episcoporum, (on the
transference of Bishops), title 7, chapter 3; Corpus Juris Canonice
(2nd Leipzig ed., 1881), col. 99; (Paris, 1612), tom. 2, Devretales,
col. 205
"The pope is the supreme judge of the law of the land... He is the
vicegerent (replacement) of Christ, who is not only a Priest forever,
but also King of kings and Lord of lords." - La Civilia Cattolica,
March 18, 1871, quoted in Leonard Woosely Bacaon, An inside view of
the Vatican Council (American Tract Society ed.), p.229, n.
The Bull Unam Sanctam... Issued by POPE BONIFACE VIII reads as
follows:
"The Roman Pontiff judges all men, but is judged by no one. We
declare, assert, define and pronounce: to be subject to the Roman
Pontiff is to every human creature necessary for salvation that which
was spoken of Christ 'thou has subdued all things under his feet' may
well seem verified in me... I have the authority of the King of Kings.
I am all in all and above all, so that God himself and I, the vicar of
God, have but one consistory, and I am able to do all that God can
do."
"Christ entrusted His office to the chief pontiff;... but all power in
heaven and in earth has been given to Christ;... therefore the chief
pontiff, who is His vicar, will have this power." Corpus Juris chap. 1
column 29, translated from a gloss on the words Porro Subesse Romano
Pontiff
"Experience teaches that there is no other remedy for the evil, but to
put heretics (Protestants) to death; for the (Romish) church proceeded
gradually and tried every remedy: at first she merely excommunicatied
them; afterwards she added a fine; then she banished them; and finally
she was constrained to put them to death." -Cardinal Bellarmine famous
champion of Romanism cited by Schumucker p. 76
"The pope is the supreme judge of the law of the land . . . He is the
vicegerent of Christ, and is not only a priest forever, but also King
of kings and Lord of lords"--La Civilta Cattolica, March 18, 1871.
"All the faithful must believe that the Holy Apostolic See and the
Roman Pontiff [the Pope] possesses the primacy over the whole world,
and the Roman Pontiff is the successor of blessed Peter, Prince of the
Apostles, and is true vicar of Christ, and heed of the whole church,
and father and teacher of all Christians; and that full power was
given to him in blessed Peter to rule, feed, and govern the universal
Church by Jesus Christ our Lord."--First Dogmatic Constitution on the
Church of Christ, "Eternal Pastor," published in the fourth session of
the Vatican Council, 1870, chap. 3, in Philip Schaff, Creeds of
Christendom. vol. 2, p. 262.
The Word says... "They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the
time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God
service. And these things will they do unto you, because they have
not known the Father, nor me." John 16:2-3
March 12, 2000, Pope John Paul II ADMITTED the Roman Catholic Church
does NOT know the Father or Jesus. To deny that, is to deny the very
words of Jesus Christ. See proof here... -Pope and Forgiveness?-
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"...we find in obediance to the words of his priests - Hoc est Corpus
Meum - God Himself descends on the altar, that he comes whenever they
call Him; and as often as they call Him, and places Himself in their
hands, even though they should be His enemies. And after having come,
he remains, entirely at their disposal; they move Him as they please,
from one place to another; they may, if they wish, shut Him up in the
tabernacle, expose Him on the altar, or carry Him outside the church;
they may, if they choose, eat His flesh, and give Him for the food of
others. ;Oh how great is their power!' -The Dignity of the priesthood
by Liguori p. 26,27
"...the power of the priest is the power of the divine person; for
the transubstantiation of the bread requires as much power as the
creation of the world. ...thus the priest may be called the creator of
the Creator..." -The diginity of the priesthood by Liguori, p. 33
"...the priesthood is the most sublime of al created dignities:... an
infinite dignity ...an astounding miracle, great, immense, and
infinate...exalted...above all celestial heights - he is inferior only
to God" -The dignity of the priesthood, by Liguori
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"Long ages ago, when Rome through the neglect of the Western emperors
was left to the mercy of the barbarous hordes, the Romans turned to
one figure for aid and protection, and asked him to rule them; and
thus, . . . commenced the temporal sovereignty of the popes. And
meekly stepping to the throne of Caesar, the vicar of Christ took up
the scepter to which the emperors and kings of Europe were to bow in
reverence through so many ages."--American Catholic Quarterly Review,
April, 1911.
"Out of the ruins of political Rome, arose the great moral Empire in
the 'giant form' of the Roman Church."--A.C. Flick, The Rise of the
Mediaeval Church, 1909, p. 150.
"Under the Roman Empire the popes had no temporal powers. But when
the Roman Empire had disintegrated and its place had been taken by a
number of rude, barbarous kingdoms, the Roman Catholic church not only
became independent of the states in religious affairs, but dominated
secular affairs as well. At times, under such rulers as Charlemagne
(768-814), Otto the Great (936-973), and Henry III (1039-1056), the
civil power controlled the church to some extent; but in general,
under the weak political system of feudalism, the well-organized,
unified, and centralized church, with the pope at its head, was not
only independent in ecclesiastical affairs but also controlled civil
affairs"--Carl Conrad Eckhardt, The Papacy and World-Affairs, The
University of Chicago Press, 1937, P. 1.
"When in 1797, Pope Pius VI fell grievously ill, Napoleon gave orders
that in the event of his death no successor should be elected to his
office, and the Papacy should be discontinued. But the Pope recovered.
The peace was soon broken: Berthier entered Rome on the tenth of
February, 1798, and proclaimed [Rome to be] a republic. The aged
Pontiff refused to violate his oath by recognizing it, and was hurried
from prison to prison in France. Broken with fatigue and sorrows, he
died on the seventeenth of August, 1799, in the French fortress of
Valence, aged 82 years. No wonder half of Europe thought Napoleon's
veto would be obeyed, and that with the Pope, the Papacy was
dead."--Joseph Rickaby, The Modern Papacy, p. 1.
"That the Church of Rome has shed more innocent blood than any other
institution that has ever existed among mankind, will be questioned by
no Protestant who has a competent knowledge of history . . . It is
impossible to form a complete conception of the multitude of her
victims, and it is quite certain that no powers of imagination can
adequately realize their sufferings."--W. E. H. Lecky, History of the
Rise and Influence of the Spirit of Rationalism in Europe, vol. 2, p.
32, 1910 edition.
(An excellent though lengthy article describing in detail the right of
the Roman Catholic Church to do this, will be found in The Catholic
Encyclopedia, vol. 12, p. 266.)
"For professing faith contrary to the teachings of the Church of
Rome, history records the martyrdom of more then one hundred million
people. A million Waldenses and Albigenses [Swiss and French
Protestants] perished during a crusade proclaimed by Pope Innocent III
in 1208. Beginning from the establishment of the Jesuits in 1540 to
1580, nine hundred thousand were destroyed. One hundred and fifty
thousand perished by the Inquisition in thirty years. Within the space
of thirty-eight years after the edict of Charles V against the
Protestants, fifty thousand persons were hanged, beheaded, or burned
alive for heresy. Eighteen thousand more perished during the
administration of the Duke of Alva in five and a half years."--Brief
Bible Readings, p. 16.
[On August 24, 1572, Roman Catholics in France, by pre-arranged plan,
under Jesuit influence, murdered 70,000 Protestants within the space
of two months. The pope rejoiced when he heard the news of the
successful outcome. (Read Great Controversy, chapter 15 for the
details.) [If you don't have a copy, write and we'll send you one.]
"Catholics say only 30,000 were slain. Protestants put the number at
70,000. We prefer the latter figure. If there were 70,000 Huguenots
[French Protestants] in Paris the night of the massacre, so much the
more justification for the slaughter . . . We have heard ring out many
times the very bells that called the Catholics together on that fatal
night. They always sounded sweetly in our ears"--Western Watchman,
Nov. 21, 1912 [Roman Catholic].
"You ask if he (the Roman Catholic) were lord in the land, and you
were in a minority, if not in numbers yet in power, what would he do
to you? That, we say, would entirely depend upon circumstances. If it
would benefit the cause of Catholicism, he would tolerate you: If
expedient, he would imprison you, banish you, fine you; possibly, he
might even hang you. But be assured of one thing: He would never
tolerate you for the sake of 'the glorious principles of civil and
religious liberty' . . . Catholicism is the most intolerant of creeds.
It is intolerance itself, for it is truth itself."--"Civil and
Religious Liberty," in The Rambler, 8, Sept, 1851, pp. 174, 178. ["The
Rambler" was an English Roman Catholic journal published from 1848 to
1862].
"From the birth of popery to the present time, it is estimated by
careful and credible historians, that more than fifty millions of the
human family, have been slaughtered for the crime of heresy by popish
persecutors,--an average of more than 40,000 religious murders for
every year of the existence of popery to the present day. Of course
the average number of victims yearly, was vastly greater, during those
gloomy ages when popery was in her glory and reigned despot of the
world; and it has been much less since the power of the popes has
diminished to tyrannize over the nations, and to compel the princes of
the earth, by the terrors of excommunication, interdiction, and
deposition, to butcher their heretical subjects."--John Dowling, The
History of Romanism, pp. 541-542.
" 'The church,' says [Martin] Luther, 'has never burned a heretic.' .
. I reply that this argument proves not the opinion, but the ignorance
or impudence of Luther. Since almost infinite numbers were either
burned or otherwise killed, Luther either did not know it, and was
therefore ignorant, or if he was not ignorant, he is convicted of
impudence and falsehood,--for that heretics were often burned by the
[Catholic Church may be proved from many examples."--Robert
Bellarmine, Disputationes de Controversiis, Tom. II, Lib. III, cap.
XXII, 1628 edition [Bellarmine is one of the most respected Jesuit
teachers in the history of the Gregorian University in Rome, the
largest Jesuit training school in the world].
"There are many unquestionable cases of Protestants punished as
heretics in nearly all the lands where Roman Catholics have had power,
right down to the French Revolution [right down to 1798]."--G. G.
Coulton, The Death-Penalty for Heresy, Medieval Studies, No. 18, 1924
edition, pp. 62 [The author was a well-known member of the French
Academy and an enthusiastic champion of Catholicism].
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The following collection of quotes are cited from The American
Textbook of Popery which in turn quotes from the Directory for the
Inquisitors (page numbers listed are for the Directory)--
"He is a heretic who does not believe what the Roman Hierarchy
teaches. --A heretic merits the pains of fire. --By the Gospel, the
canons, civil law, and custom, heretics must be burned."--148, 169
"All sects of heretics are condemned and various punishments are
appointed for them and their accomplices." --Pope Alexander IV, --p.
135
"Statutes that impede the execution of the duties which appertain to
the office of Inquisitors are null and void." --Pope Urban IV, p. 106
"They who bury persons knowing them to be excommunicated, or their
receivers, defenders, or favourers, shall not be absolved unless they
dig up the corpse; and the place shall be deprived of the usual
immunities of sepulture." --Pope Alexander IV, p. 104
"All defence is denied to heretics." p. 153
"For the suspicion alone of heresy, purgation is demanded." --p. 156
"Heretics are by right condemned." --p. 157
"He who is without the church can neither be reconciled nor saved."
--p. 144
By the way... The BIBLE says... Luke 3:14, "..., Do violence to no
man"
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"No person shall preach without the permission of his Superior. All
preachers shall explain the Gospel according to the Fathers. They
shall not explain futurity or the times of Antichrist!" -Pope Leo X,
1516
"At the word of a priest, that little piece of bread becomes the
body of Christ... Then you give this bread to us, so that we too
might live and become holy..." "...eucharistic [i.e., cracker]
worship is the center and goal of all sacramental life." "The
encouragement and deepening of the Eucharistic [cracker] worship are
proofs of that authentic renewal...Jesus waits for us in this
sacrament of love..." "Adoration of Christ in this Sacrament of love
must also find expression in various forms of Eucharistic [cracker]
devotion: personal prayer before the Blessed Sacrament [the cracker],
hours of adoration, periods of exposition - short, prolonged and
annual (Forty Hours) - Eucharistic [cracker] benediction, Eucharistic
[cracker] processions, Eucharistic [cracker] Congresses." --Karol
Wojtyla, aka pope John Paul II DOMINICAE CENAE ON THE MYSTERY AND
WORSHIP OF THE EUCHARIST February 24, 1980
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"I explained that I wanted to give them [Yemen government] sisters,
but the trouble was that, without a priest, without Jesus going with
them, our sisters couldn't go anywhere... I was so struck with the
thought that ONLY when the priest is there can we have altar and our
tabernacle and OUR JESUS. Only the priest can PUT Jesus there for
us...Jesus wants to go there, but we cannot bring him unless you first
give him to us." --Mother Teresa
" you [priests] are called 'another Christ.' " --MOTHER TERESA
"All the names which are attributed to Christ in Scripture, inplying
His supremacy over the church, are also attributed to the Pope."
Bellamin, "On the Authority of Councils," book 2, Chapter 17.
"The Catholic Church has persecuted ... when she thinks it is good to
use physical force she will use it... Will the Catholic Church give
bond that she will not persecute?... The Catholic Church gives no
bonds for her good behaviour." -Western Watchman, Dec. 24, 1908
"The church may by Divine right confiscate the property of heretics,
imprison their persons, and condemn them to the flames." -Vatican II
Mr. Raywood Frazier, in the booklet "Catholic Words and Actions,"
presents documentary proof of the intensive persecution of Protestants
and non-Catholics in Columbia, South America, between 1949 and 1953.
The Catholic Church had the support of the Columbian government in the
destruction of many churches, and the liquidation of more than 1,000
documented cases -- some of whom were shot, drowned, or emasculated.
He says there is evidence of over 60,000 killed. Pope Pius XII awarded
the President of Columbia with one of the highest awards which the
Church bestows, and praised Columbia for its example of the Catholic
faith." (Pp. 59,60)
The defense of Roman Catholics to this presentation is as follows:
"Communists destroy churches because they are God's enemies;
Catholic's destroy churches because they are God's friends... Against
such men-founded churches... Catholics in Latin America should arise
and wipe them out with fire." -John J. Oberlander, in The Voice of
Freedom, 1954, p. 20.
The rector of the Catholic Institute of Paris, H.M.A. Baudrillart,
revealed the attitude of the church and her leaders toward
persecution. "When confronted with heresy," he said, "she does not
content herself with persuasion, arguments of an intellectual and
moral order appear to her insufficient, and she has recourse to force,
to corporal punishment, to torture." The Catholic Church, The
Renassance, and Protestantism, pp. 182-183
"Democracy is a michievous dream where the Catholic Church does not
predominate." -Brownson's Review.
"There is one, and only one, sure democracy, the Catholicism of the
Popes" -The Catholic World, Oct, 1937.
"Some dwell on the vastly increased tolerance shown in this country
now to Catholics and Catholic thugs... It betokens a decay of
Protestantism." -Catholic World, Oct. 1935, p.66
"It no longer can be said today that the U.S. is a Protestant
country." -Cardinal Strich of Chicago, quoted in Time Magazine, Aug.
5, 1955 "
The old Protestant culture is about at the end of its rope... Why
can't we make the U.S. Catholic in legislation, Catholic in justice,
aims and ideals?" -Father F. X. Talbot, editor of America, official
jesuit magazine for the U.S. statement in New York Globe Dec. 14, 1930
"Religious liberty is merely endured until the opposite can be carried
into effect without peril to the Catholic Church." -Bishop O'Conner of
Pittsburg.
"If Catholics ever gain sufficient numerical majority in this country,
religious freedom is at an end. So our enemies say; so we believe"
-The Shephard of the Valley, journal of the late bishop of St. Louis.
In the book Confusion Twice Confounded, Monsignor Joseph H. Brady
states that the U.S. Supreme Court is wrong in decisions regarding
"seperation of Church and State." He says: "A sound view of the
Constitution in its relation to religion probably awaits a change in
personnel in our highest tribunal." -The Register, Jan. 23, 1955.
"But Constitutions can be changed, and non-Catholic sects may decline
to such a point that the political proscription [ban] of them may
become feasible and expedient. What protection would they have against
a Catholic state?" -The State and the Church, pp.38,39, by Miller and
Ryan, imprimatur of Cardinal Hayes.
"The Catholic Church in this nation must live on to accomplish her
work, even though our Republican form of government disappears." -The
Catholic World, April, 1935, p.12. "
They [Catholics] must penetrate wherever possible in the
administration of civil affairs... all Catholics should do all in
their power to cause the constitution of states, and legislation to be
modeled on the principles of the true Church." -Encyclical of Leo
XIII.
"The Pope is of great authority and power that he can modify, explain,
or interpret even divine laws... The Pope can modify divine law, since
his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts as vicegerent of God
upon earth." -Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Ribliotheca, "Papa," art. 2,
translated.
"The Pope has the power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to
dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ." "The Pope has
the authority and often exercised it, to dispense with the command of
Christ." Decretal, de Tranlatic Episcop. Cap. (The Pope can modify
divine law.) Ferraris' Ecclesiastical Dictionary.
They "dispense with the command of Christ???" When the Catholic church
is asked..."Why do you feel you have the power, authority and ability
to change Scripture to match your traditions?" They answer...
"Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all
modern religionists agree with her; --she could not have substituted
the observance of Sunday the first day of the week, for the observance
of Saturday the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural
authority." -Rev. Stephan Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism, "On the
Obedience Due to the Church," chap. 2, p. 174. (Imprimatur, John
Cardinal McCloskey, archbishop of New York.)
"The authority of the church could therefore not be bound to the
authority of the Scriptures, because the Church had changed...the
Sabbath into Sunday, not by command of Christ, but by its own
authority." Canon and Tradition, p. 263
"Is not every Christian obliged to sanctify Sunday and to abstain on
that day from unnecessary servile work? Is not the observance of this
law among the most prominent of our sacred duties? But you may read
the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single
line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce
the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify."
-James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of Our Fathers (1917 ed.), pp. 72,
73.
"The Catholic church," declared Cardinal Gibbons, "by virtue of her
divine mission changed the day from Saturday to Sunday." Catholic
Mirror Sept. 23 1983. (Official organ of Cardinal Gibbons)
Question - Which is the Sabbath day?
Answer - Saturday is the Sabbath day.
Question - Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
Answer - We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic
Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A.D. 364), transferred the
solemnity from Saturday to Sunday." The Convert's Catechism of
Catholic Doctrine, p. 50, 3rd ed.
"The Bible says, Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day. The
Catholic church says, No! By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath
day, and command you to keep the first day of the week. And lo, the
entire civilized world bows down in reverent obedience to the command
of the holy Catholic church!" Father Enright, C.S.S.R. of the
Redemptoral College, Kansas City, Mo., History of the Sabbath, p. 802
"There is no word, no hint in the New Testament about abstaining from
work on Sunday. The observance of Ash Wednesday, or Lent, stands
exactly on the same footing as the observance of Sunday. Into the rest
of Sunday no divine law entered"--Canon Eyton, The Ten Commandments
[Presbyterian].
"The Adventists are the only body of Christians with the Bible as
their teacher, who could find no warrant in its pages for the change
of day from the seventh to the first. Hence their appellation,"
Seventh-day Adventists. "They're cardinal principle consists in
setting apart Saturday for the exclusive worship of God, in conformity
with the positive command of God Himself, repeatedly reiterated in the
sacred books of the Old and New testaments, literally kept by the
children of Israel for thousands of years to this day, and endorsed by
the teaching and practice of the Son of God while on earth." -Rome's
Challenge, page two
"Is not yet too late for Protestants to redeem themselves. Will they
do it?... will they indeed take the written word only, the Scripture
alone, as their sole authority and their sole standard? Or will they
still hold the indefensible, self contradictory, and suicidal doctrine
and practice of following the authority of the Catholic church and
wear the SIGN of her authority? Will they keep the Sabbath of the
Lord, the seventh day, according to Scripture? Or will they keep the
Sunday according to the tradition of the Catholic church, -Ibid, page
31
During the Reagan administration, President Ronald Reagan, after much
pressure, appointed an ambassador to VATICAN CITY! When W. Kenneth Dan
was asked why we need an ambassador in Vatican City, He replied; "It
would allow the USA to influence the political decisions of the ROMAN
CATHOLIC CHURCH!"
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THIS LITERALLY VIOLATES THE FIRST AMENDMENT!
AMENDMENT I. :
Religious establishment prohibited. Freedom of speech, of the press,
and right to petition.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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"This organization proposes in every possible way to aid in preserving
Sunday as a civil institution. Our national security requires the
active support of all good citizens in the maintenance of our American
Sabbath. Sunday laws must be enforced." -Quoted as "principles
contained in the Constitution" of the original orginization (then
called the American Sabbath Union), cited in The Lord's Day Alliance,
Twenty fifth Report (1913), p6.
In the fourth and fifth centuries, Sunday shows and Sunday theaters,
it was complained, hindered the "devotion of the faithful," because
many of the members attended them in preference to the church
services. The church, therefore, demanded that the state interfere,
and promote Sunday observance by law. "In this way, " Says Neander
"the church received help from the state for the furtherence of her
ends." This union of church and state served to establish the Papacy
in power. A simular course pursued now will produce the same results.
-AUGUSTUS NEANDER, General History of the Christian Religion and the
Church, Torey translation (3rd American ed.), vol. 2, pp. 300,301
On September 7, 1947, Pope Pius XII declared that "the time for
reflection and planning is past in religious and moral fields and the
time for action has arrived." He said that "the battle in religious
and moral fields hinged on five points: Religious culture, the
sanctifying of Sunday, the saving of the Christian family, social
justice and loyalty and truthfulness in dealings." -Evening Star
(Washington D.C.), Sept. 8, 1947.
"Every man and woman shall repair in the morning to the divine service
and sermons preached upon the Sabbath (Sunday), and in the afternoon
to divine service, and catechizing, upon pain for the first fault to
lose their provision and the allowance for the whole week following;
for the second, to lose the said allowance and also be whipped; and
for the third to suffer death."!!! Laws, and Orders, Divine,
Politique, & Martial For the Colony in Virginia: first established by
Sir Thomas Gates, Knight, Lieutenant - General, the 24th of May, 1610
"Consequently, John Paul was criticized by liberal and moderate
politicians and newspapers for transgressing the boundary between
church and state." TIME June 1, 1981 article "Not Yet Hale, but
Hearty" By George Russell
In sermons based on the Ten Commandments, John Paul denounced
excessive materialism, divorce, contraception and the separation of
church and state, TIME June 17, 1991 "The Gift Of Life" p. 47 Sermons
from A Native Son
Recent statements by the Polish Episcopate have fueled apprehension.
In late April the bishops urged that the new constitution exclude any
provision for the separation of church and state. Instead, they
suggested, "exceptional emphasis should be laid on the need for
cooperation between the state and the Catholic Church." TIME May 20,
1991 "Five Who Could Be Vice President" Pg 40 "Power to The Pulpit"
"For teaching faith contrary to the teaching of the Church of Rome,
history records the martyrdom of more than 100 million people." Brief
Bible Readings p. 16
Under the influence of Germanic customs and concepts, torture was
little used from the 9th to the 12th centuries, but with the revival
of Roman law the practice was reestablished in the 12th century... In
1252 (Pope) Innocent IV sanctioned the infliction of torture by the
civil authorities upon heretics, and torture came to have a recognized
place in the procedure of the inquisitional courts. -New Catholic
Encyclopedia, arts. "Inquisition", "Auto-da-Fe'," and "Massacre of St
Bartholomew's Day."
HOLY OFFICE STILL EXISTS
Pope John Paul II Revives Inquisition
The thought of a revived Holy Office of the Inquisition would pacify
some and offend others. Nevertheless, the "Holy Office" still exists.
Only it's name has been changed. Pope John Paul II has been
instrumental in its revival. One may argue that this Ratzinger run
agency is merely an attempt by the Catholic Church to root out
communism or backslidden priests and their practices. However, with
John Paul II's objective to implement "God's mandate" by creating a
global church-state which will administer from traditional Roman
Catholic theology, is enough cause for alarm. Malachi Martin has
already stated in his book, "The Keys of this Blood," that the pope
will not tolerate any belief systems that oppose his, not on a civil
or church level. In John Paul II the world will behold a tyrant who
will coldly execute direct orders against those whom he deems are
heretics or immoral. Moreover, like his papal predecessors, John Paul
II will carry out his "Godly mandate" in the name of Christ, or
perhaps Mary. May God help us all. -By Kathleen R. Hayes Feb 1991, NRI
Trumpet Page 3
The Encyclical of Pope Pius X, issued in 1864, asserted:
the right to require the State not to leave any man free to profess
his own religion;
the right to employ force;
the right to claim dominion in temporal things;
the right to have the entire control of public schools;
the right to hold princes and kings in subjection;
the right to treat all marriages as invalid which are not solemnized
according to the forms of the Council of Trent;
the right to prevent the State granting to immigrants the public
exercise of their own worship;
the right to require the State not to permit free expression of
opinion;
Cardinal Newman admits in his book that; the "temples, incense, oil
lamps, votive offerings, holy water, Holidays, and seasons of
devotion, processions, blessings of the fields, sacerdotal vestments,
the tonsure (of priests, munks and nuns), images, and statues... are
all of PAGAN ORIGIN." -The Development of the Christian Religion
Cardinal Newman p.359
The penetration of the religion of Babylon became so general and well
known that Rome was called the "New Babylon." -Faith of our fathers
1917 ed. Cardinal Gibbons, p. 106
"In order to attach to Christianity great attraction in the eyes of
the nobility, the priests adopted the outer garments and adornments
which were used in pagan cults." -Life of Constantine, Eusabius, cited
in Altai-Nimalaya, p. 94
"The Church did everything it couldto stamp out such 'pagan' rites,
but had to capitualet and allow the rites to continue with only the
name of the local diety changed to some Christian saint's name."
-Religious Tradition and Myth. Dr. Edwin Goodenough, Professor of
Religion, Harvard University. p. 56, 57
In Stanley's History, page 40: "The popes filled the place of the
vacant emperors at Rome, inheriting their power, their prestige, and
their titles from PAGANISM."
The decree set forth in the year 1229 A.D. by the Council of
Valencia... places Bible on The Index of Forbidden Books. The doctrine
withholds "it is forbidden for laymen (common man) to read the Old and
New Testaments. - We forbid them most severely to have the above books
in the popular vernacular." "The lords of the districts shall
carefully seek out the heretics in dwellings, hovels, and forests, and
even their underground retreats shall be entirely wiped out." Council
Tolosanum, Pope Gregory IX, Anno. Chr. 1229
The church Council of Tarragona ruled that: "No one may possess the
books of the Old and New Testaments in the Romance language, and if
anyone possesses them he must turn them over to the local bishop
within eight days after the promulgation of this decree, so they may
be burned." D. Lortsch, Histoire de la Bible en France, 1910, p.14.
"Socialism, Communism, clandestine societies, Bible societies... pests
of this sort must be destroyed by all means." The encyclical Quanta
Cura Issued by Pope Pius IX, December 6, 1866
"The Bible does not pretend to be a formulary of belief, as in a creed
or catechism. There is nowhere in the New Testament a clear,
methodical statement of the teaching of Christ" -Question Box, p. 66
"The very nature of the Bible ought to prove to any thinking man the
impossibility of its being the one safe method to find out what the
Savior taught." Ibid., p. 67
...It was well for Luther that he did not come into the world until a
century after the immortal invention of Guttenberg. A hundred years
earlier his idea of directing two hundred and fifty million men to
read the Bible would have been received with shouts of laughter, and
would inevitably have caused his removal from the pulpit of Wittenburg
to a hospital for the insane." -The Faith of Our Fathers, p. 69; see
also The Faith of Millions, p. 152
"Again it has ever been practically impossible for men, generally, to
find out Christ from the Bible only." -Question Box, p. 70
"...The Bible nowhere implies that it is the only source of faith."
-Ibid., p. 77
"The Scriptures indeed is a divine book but it is a dead letter, which
has to be explained, and cannot exercise the action which the preacher
can obtain." -Our Priesthood, p. 155
"...A dead and speechless book." -Question Box, p. 67
"The simple fact is that the Bible, like all dead letters, calls for a
living interpreter." -The Faith of Millions, p. 155
"The Bible was not intended to be a textbook of Christian religion."
-Catholic Facts, p. 50
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I wonder... will Ed take ONE maybe TWO of these quotes and try to
twtist them to YOUR liking?