"Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> "Attila" <<procho...@here.now> wrote ...
> >>You are still a fag, aren't you?
> > No more than I have ever been.
> > Just what does that comment have to do with the subject being
> > discussed? Do you have an attention problem?
> Aren't we discussing your fag workshop?
Whenever a person's position is so indefensible that he resorts to ad hominem arguments, as you have twice done above, he has lost!
-- "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson
>> > No more than I have ever been.
>> > Just what does that comment have to do with the subject being
>> > discussed? Do you have an attention problem?
>> Aren't we discussing your fag workshop?
> Whenever a person's position is so indefensible that he resorts to ad
> hominem arguments, as you have twice done above, he has lost!
I guess you have decided not to invite me to your fag workshop?
>> > Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal?
>> > Adams HE, Wright LW Jr, Lohr BA.
>> > Source
>> > Department of Psychology, University of Georgia, Athens 30602-3013, >> > USA.
>> > Abstract
>> > The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively
>> > heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual
>> > individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = >> > 35)
>> > and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups >> > on
>> > the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. >> > A.
>> > Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic >> > stimuli
>> > consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, >> > and
>> > changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an
>> > Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups
>> > exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and >> > female
>> > homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile
>> > erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in
>> > aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal
>> > that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.
>> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014
>> I am sure that is important to the fag community.
>> Me.......?
>> I don't care.
> In article <8Ywgs.1$DG...@fe46.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com>
> wrote:
>> "Attila" <<procho...@here.now> wrote in message
>> news:ot4288p9qmdeqi1uuuoru4l4bdgsq8cvk9@4ax.com...
>> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:37:12 -0400, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> in
>> > alt.abortion with message-id <sw%fs.130$wO6...@fe07.iad> wrote:
>> >>>> No.... the lack of facing responsibility (by being able to fuck >> >>>> around
>> >>>> with no consequences) leads one into temptation.
>> >>> What a hilariously naive comment!
>> >>> It is not the possibility of consequence-free action that
>> >>> produces, or intensifies, sexual temptation. Desire is a
>> >>> natural part of human existence, and it arises
>> >>> spontaneously despite the presence or absence of
>> >>> consequences. Threat of an unwanted outcome may prompt a
>> >>> person to avoid following through on his desire, but that
>> >>> threat does nothing to stymie the initial impulse to act.
>> >>I never said that it did.
>> >>I merely claim that the decision to fuck around might be
>> >>focused on the fact that there are no consequences.
>> > We do a lot of things based upon the reduced adverse consequences
>> > provided by medical research.
>> You are still a fag, aren't you?
> Whenever anyone's case is so futile that they have to resort to ad
> hominem arguments, they are effectively conceding that they are in the
> wrong! AS you have just done!
> "Attila" <<procho...@here.now> wrote in message > news:ot4288p9qmdeqi1uuuoru4l4bdgsq8cvk9@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:37:12 -0400, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> in
> > alt.abortion with message-id <sw%fs.130$wO6...@fe07.iad> wrote:
> >>>> No.... the lack of facing responsibility (by being able to fuck around
> >>>> with no consequences) leads one into temptation.
> >>> What a hilariously naive comment!
> >>> It is not the possibility of consequence-free action that
> >>> produces, or intensifies, sexual temptation. Desire is a
> >>> natural part of human existence, and it arises
> >>> spontaneously despite the presence or absence of
> >>> consequences. Threat of an unwanted outcome may prompt a
> >>> person to avoid following through on his desire, but that
> >>> threat does nothing to stymie the initial impulse to act.
> >>I never said that it did.
> >>I merely claim that the decision to fuck around might be
> >>focused on the fact that there are no consequences.
> > We do a lot of things based upon the reduced adverse consequences
> > provided by medical research.
> You are still a fag, aren't you?
Even if he is, what difference would that make?
-- JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
> > Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal?
> > Adams HE, Wright LW Jr, Lohr BA.
> > Source
> > Department of Psychology, University of Georgia, Athens 30602-3013, USA.
> > Abstract
> > The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively
> > heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual
> > individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35)
> > and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on
> > the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A.
> > Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli
> > consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and
> > changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an
> > Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups
> > exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female
> > homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile
> > erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in
> > aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal
> > that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.
> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014
> I am sure that is important to the fag community.
> Me.......?
> I don't care.
You should if you're pretending to be something you're not because that kind of life is horribly unhealthy due to the stress caused by lying to everyone, including oneself.
-- JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
Attila <<procho...@here.now> wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:05:36 -0400, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> in
> alt.abortion with message-id <8Ywgs.1$DG...@fe46.iad> wrote:
> >"Attila" <<procho...@here.now> wrote in message > >news:ot4288p9qmdeqi1uuuoru4l4bdgsq8cvk9@4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:37:12 -0400, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> in
> >> alt.abortion with message-id <sw%fs.130$wO6...@fe07.iad> wrote:
> >>>>> No.... the lack of facing responsibility (by being able to fuck around
> >>>>> with no consequences) leads one into temptation.
> >>>> What a hilariously naive comment!
> >>>> It is not the possibility of consequence-free action that
> >>>> produces, or intensifies, sexual temptation. Desire is a
> >>>> natural part of human existence, and it arises
> >>>> spontaneously despite the presence or absence of
> >>>> consequences. Threat of an unwanted outcome may prompt a
> >>>> person to avoid following through on his desire, but that
> >>>> threat does nothing to stymie the initial impulse to act.
> >>>I never said that it did.
> >>>I merely claim that the decision to fuck around might be
> >>>focused on the fact that there are no consequences.
> >> We do a lot of things based upon the reduced adverse consequences
> >> provided by medical research.
> >You are still a fag, aren't you?
> No more than I have ever been.
> Just what does that comment have to do with the subject being
> discussed? Do you have an attention problem?
This is yet another "tell" which indicates a person who knows he's lost the argument but isn't honest enough to admit it.
-- JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
> > Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal?
> > Adams HE, Wright LW Jr, Lohr BA.
> > Source
> > Department of Psychology, University of Georgia, Athens 30602-3013, USA.
> > Abstract
> > The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively
> > heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual
> > individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35)
> > and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on
> > the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A.
> > Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli
> > consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and
> > changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an
> > Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups
> > exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female
> > homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile
> > erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in
> > aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal
> > that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.
> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014
> I am sure that is important to the fag community.
Actually, it is MORE significant for homophobics like you!!
> Me.......?
Yes, you!!
-- "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public expense.
> >> > No more than I have ever been.
> >> > Just what does that comment have to do with the subject being
> >> > discussed? Do you have an attention problem?
> >> Aren't we discussing your fag workshop?
> > Whenever a person's position is so indefensible that he resorts to ad
> > hominem arguments, as you have twice done above, he has lost!
> I guess you have decided not to invite me to your fag workshop?
I guess you have decided not to continue the discussion, asshole?
> >>> No more than I have ever been.
> >>> Just what does that comment have to do with the subject being
> >>> discussed? Do you have an attention problem?
> >>Aren't we discussing your fag workshop?
> > I have no idea what you are discussing - you have trimmed away enough
> > so you can avoid the actual subject entirely.
> > In article <8Ywgs.1$DG...@fe46.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com>
> > wrote:
> >> "Attila" <<procho...@here.now> wrote in message
> >>news:ot4288p9qmdeqi1uuuoru4l4bdgsq8cvk9@4ax.com...
> >> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:37:12 -0400, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> in
> >> > alt.abortion with message-id <sw%fs.130$wO6...@fe07.iad> wrote:
> >> >>>> No.... the lack of facing responsibility (by being able to fuck
> >> >>>> around
> >> >>>> with no consequences) leads one into temptation.
> >> >>> What a hilariously naive comment!
> >> >>> It is not the possibility of consequence-free action that
> >> >>> produces, or intensifies, sexual temptation. Desire is a
> >> >>> natural part of human existence, and it arises
> >> >>> spontaneously despite the presence or absence of
> >> >>> consequences. Threat of an unwanted outcome may prompt a
> >> >>> person to avoid following through on his desire, but that
> >> >>> threat does nothing to stymie the initial impulse to act.
> >> >>I never said that it did.
> >> >>I merely claim that the decision to fuck around might be
> >> >>focused on the fact that there are no consequences.
> >> > We do a lot of things based upon the reduced adverse consequences
> >> > provided by medical research.
> >> You are still a fag, aren't you?
> > Whenever anyone's case is so futile that they have to resort to ad
> > hominem arguments, they are effectively conceding that they are in the
> > wrong! AS you have just done!
> >> >>>> No.... the lack of facing responsibility (by being able to fuck > >> >>>> around
> >> >>>> with no consequences) leads one into temptation.
> >> >>> What a hilariously naive comment!
> >> >>> It is not the possibility of consequence-free action that
> >> >>> produces, or intensifies, sexual temptation. Desire is a
> >> >>> natural part of human existence, and it arises
> >> >>> spontaneously despite the presence or absence of
> >> >>> consequences. Threat of an unwanted outcome may prompt a
> >> >>> person to avoid following through on his desire, but that
> >> >>> threat does nothing to stymie the initial impulse to act.
> >> >>I never said that it did.
> >> >>I merely claim that the decision to fuck around might be
> >> >>focused on the fact that there are no consequences.
> >> > We do a lot of things based upon the reduced adverse consequences
> >> > provided by medical research.
> >> You are still a fag, aren't you?
> > Whenever anyone's case is so futile that they have to resort to ad
> > hominem arguments, they are effectively conceding that they are in the
> > wrong! AS you have just done!
> You are still a fag, aren't you?
Even if he is, what does that have to do with the discussion?
-- JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
> "Attila" <<procho...@here.now> wrote in message > news:cf3688l5ajspuj4i3r21b4qti7lci9akd3@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:09:01 -0400, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> in
> > alt.abortion with message-id <NUAgs.13384$iX6.5...@fed16.iad> wrote:
> >>> No more than I have ever been.
> >>> Just what does that comment have to do with the subject being
> >>> discussed? Do you have an attention problem?
> >>Aren't we discussing your fag workshop?
> > I have no idea what you are discussing - you have trimmed away enough
> > so you can avoid the actual subject entirely.
> We were discussing your fag workshop.
What the hell is a "fag workshop"?
-- JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
> >> > Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal?
> >> > Adams HE, Wright LW Jr, Lohr BA.
> >> > Source
> >> > Department of Psychology, University of Georgia, Athens 30602-3013, > >> > USA.
> >> > Abstract
> >> > The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively
> >> > heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual
> >> > individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = > >> > 35)
> >> > and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups > >> > on
> >> > the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. > >> > A.
> >> > Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic > >> > stimuli
> >> > consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, > >> > and
> >> > changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an
> >> > Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups
> >> > exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and > >> > female
> >> > homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile
> >> > erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in
> >> > aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal
> >> > that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.
> >> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014
> >> I am sure that is important to the fag community.
> >> Me.......?
> >> I don't care.
> > *** If you don't care, why the vitrol?
> I don't take Viagra.
*** - vitrol - n.
Bitterly abusive feeling or expression.
> >> > No more than I have ever been.
> >> > Just what does that comment have to do with the subject being
> >> > discussed? Do you have an attention problem?
> >> Aren't we discussing your fag workshop?
> > Whenever a person's position is so indefensible that he resorts to ad
> > hominem arguments, as you have twice done above, he has lost!
> I guess you have decided not to invite me to your fag workshop?
I guess you have decided not to continue the discussion, asshole?
> In article <qREgs.1826$9y5....@fe20.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com>
> wrote:
>> "Attila" <<procho...@here.now> wrote in message
>> news:cf3688l5ajspuj4i3r21b4qti7lci9akd3@4ax.com...
>> > On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:09:01 -0400, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> in
>> > alt.abortion with message-id <NUAgs.13384$iX6.5...@fed16.iad> wrote:
>> >>> No more than I have ever been.
>> >>> Just what does that comment have to do with the subject being
>> >>> discussed? Do you have an attention problem?
>> >>Aren't we discussing your fag workshop?
>> > I have no idea what you are discussing - you have trimmed away enough
>> > so you can avoid the actual subject entirely.
>> We were discussing your fag workshop.
> What the hell is a "fag workshop"?
You'll have to ask sid. I think he might be setting one up.
>> > No more than I have ever been.
>> > Just what does that comment have to do with the subject being
>> > discussed? Do you have an attention problem?
>> Aren't we discussing your fag workshop?
> And there's that "tell" again.
I'm having fun. How about you?
I'm sure you would be invited into one of the study groups.
>>And the day of the queers going out
>>it rained down FIERY brimstone
> You'll see a real queer if you look in the mirror. All haters and > religious
> nutjobs are real queers. Most homosexuals are far more saintly than you.
Looks like atai is running the motivational workshop.
Will it be more of a brainstorming session,.... or a lecture series?
>> >> > Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal?
>> >> > Adams HE, Wright LW Jr, Lohr BA.
>> >> > Source
>> >> > Department of Psychology, University of Georgia, Athens 30602-3013,
>> >> > USA.
>> >> > Abstract
>> >> > The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in >> >> > exclusively
>> >> > heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual
>> >> > individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n >> >> > =
>> >> > 35)
>> >> > and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to >> >> > groups
>> >> > on
>> >> > the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & >> >> > W.
>> >> > A.
>> >> > Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic
>> >> > stimuli
>> >> > consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes,
>> >> > and
>> >> > changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed >> >> > an
>> >> > Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups
>> >> > exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and
>> >> > female
>> >> > homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in >> >> > penile
>> >> > erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in
>> >> > aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual >> >> > arousal
>> >> > that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.
>> >> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014
>> >> I am sure that is important to the fag community.
>> >> Me.......?
>> >> I don't care.
>> > *** If you don't care, why the vitrol?
>> I don't take Viagra.
> *** - vitrol - n.
> Bitterly abusive feeling or expression.
Oh, I guess I want to get another "at-bat" opportunity
prior to my upcoming vacation. I'll be gone for a few
weeks and I'll miss the great rapport we all share.
