Why Do Obama Supporters Hate Churches But Love The State?

[Tracey12]

Isn't it kind of funny how the left is so critical of Churches and
Religion, but puts total faith in the State?

[Mitchell Holman]

Tracey12 <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3d78386c-0916-4b98-97dc-
582460...@g9g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:

> Isn't it kind of funny how the left is so critical of Churches and
> Religion, but puts total faith in the State?
>

Why do conservatives claim to both love America
AND want to see it broken up?


http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/secession-movement-just-needs-more-oxygen/

[opel]

Why has total un-Constitutional lunacy infested both coasts?

[Hell Stomper]

On May 18, 7:17 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3d78386c-0916-4b98-97dc-
> 58246091c...@g9g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:

>
> > Isn't it kind of funny how the left is so critical of Churches and
> > Religion, but puts total faith in the State?
>
>     Why do conservatives claim to both love America
> AND want to see it broken up?
>
> http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/secession-movement-just-needs-more-oxygen/

We love America as founded. You want to change into something we do
not recognize, and you're succeeding. America as we knew it is no
more. We have simply decided not to participate in your little
experiment, and are taking measures to secure the free states in their
sovereignty.

[Mitchell Holman]

Hell Stomper <stardu...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:616a3c65-2d73-4322...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com:

> On May 18, 7:17 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>> Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:3d78386c-0916-4b98-97dc-
>> 58246091c...@g9g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Isn't it kind of funny how the left is so critical of Churches and
>> > Religion, but puts total faith in the State?
>>
>>     Why do conservatives claim to both love America
>> AND want to see it broken up?
>>
>> http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/secession-movement-just-needs-more-oxygen/
>
> We love America as founded.

Complete with slavery, no universal
sufferage, women-as-property, only good
indian is a dead indian.

> You want to change into something we do
> not recognize, and you're succeeding. America as we knew it is no
> more. We have simply decided not to participate in your little
> experiment, and are taking measures to secure the free states in their
> sovereignty.

Great. Every state secedes, America is
broken up and dies. That is your brand of
Patriotism?

[wy]

You love America as founded? America as you knew it is no more? You
never knew it as it was founded, unless you're about 240 years old.
So, what was America like for you as you knew it and in the way it was
founded? Oh, right. I get it. It was like back in the old days when
a white man was president, especially a Repugnant white man. Boy,
you're stupid. And racist, too.

[opel]

On 5/18/2013 6:02 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> We love America as founded.
>
> Complete with slavery,

Complete with a Constitution that holds today, even with some "amendments".

>
>> > You want to change into something we do
>> >not recognize, and you're succeeding. America as we knew it is no
>> >more. We have simply decided not to participate in your little
>> >experiment, and are taking measures to secure the free states in their
>> >sovereignty.
>
> Great. Every state secedes,

Who said that, chicken little?

> America is
> broken up and dies. That is your brand of
> Patriotism?

You're an evil, lying traitor.

[opel]

On 5/18/2013 6:07 PM, wy wrote:
> You love America as founded?

Shut your ignorant, gibbering, canuckleheaded cakehole, hoser.

[BIG BIRD]

"opel" <ad...@novalid.org.> wrote in message news:kn9653$q41$5...@dont-email.me...

: On 5/18/2013 6:07 PM, wy wrote:
: > You love America as founded?
:
: Shut your ignorant, gibbering, canuckleheaded cakehole, hoser.

:

suck another slimy,stinkin,nasty,oozing,pus filled, angry, old rich
white man's rotten dick bitch

[Hell Stomper]

On May 18, 8:02 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:

> Hell Stomper <stardusth...@gmail.com> wrote innews:616a3c65-2d73-4322...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On May 18, 7:17 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> >> Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >> news:3d78386c-0916-4b98-97dc-
> >> 58246091c...@g9g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> > Isn't it kind of funny how the left is so critical of Churches and
> >> > Religion, but puts total faith in the State?
>
> >>     Why do conservatives claim to both love America
> >> AND want to see it broken up?
>
> >>http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/secession-movement-just-needs-more-oxygen/
>
> > We love America as founded.
>
>     Complete with slavery, no universal
> sufferage, women-as-property, only good
> indian is a dead indian.

That wasn't what the country was founded upon. But that's probably
the way they teach it in government schools.

>
> >  You want to change into something we do
> > not recognize, and you're succeeding.  America as we knew it is no
> > more.  We have simply decided not to participate in your little
> > experiment, and are taking measures to secure the free states in their
> > sovereignty.
>
>    Great. Every state secedes, America is
> broken up and dies. That is your brand of
> Patriotism?

No. That's me saying that there are a great many of us who refuse to
be enslaved by your socialist hell.

[Mitchell Holman]

Hell Stomper <stardu...@gmail.com> wrote in

news:0789a36d-ecfe-46a1...@a8g2000yqp.googlegroups.com:

> On May 18, 8:02�pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>> Hell Stomper <stardusth...@gmail.com> wrote

>> innews:616a3c65-2d73-4322-a9e
> 5-596f9...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com:

>>
>> > On May 18, 7:17�pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>> >> Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> news:3d78386c-0916-4b98-97dc-
>> >> 58246091c...@g9g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> > Isn't it kind of funny how the left is so critical of Churches
>> >> > and Religion, but puts total faith in the State?
>>
>> >> � � Why do conservatives claim to both love America
>> >> AND want to see it broken up?
>>
>> >>http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/secession-movement-just-needs-more-oxygen
>> >>/

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/276817-white-house-
responds-to-secession-petitions

>>
>> > We love America as founded.
>>
>> � � Complete with slavery, no universal
>> sufferage, women-as-property, only good
>> indian is a dead indian.
> That wasn't what the country was founded upon.

Slavery is specifically mentioned and
tolerated in the Constitution. Jefferson
and even Washington himself owned slaves.


>>
>> > �You want to change into something we do

>> > not recognize, and you're succeeding. �America as we knew it is no
>> > more. �We have simply decided not to participate in your little
>> > experiment, and are taking measures to secure the free states in
>> > their sovereignty.
>>
>> � �Great. Every state secedes, America is
>> broken up and dies. That is your brand of
>> Patriotism?
>
> No. That's me saying that there are a great many of us who refuse to
> be enslaved by your socialist hell.

Remember your last attempt at secession?

Remember how it turned out?

[Mitchell Holman]

wy <w...@myself.com> wrote in
news:4c976ab2-944b-4370...@h13g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:

The conservative grasp of history is a wonder to behold.




"Revere warned, uh, the British that they weren’t gonna
be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and
um, makin' sure as he’s riding his horse through town to
send those warning shots and bells that we were going to
be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going
to be armed."
Sarah Palin, June 3 2011
http://tinyurl.com/3othdqu

[•RLMeasures]

In article <XnsA1C4C0BCBC63...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell

Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:

> Hell Stomper <stardu...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:616a3c65-2d73-4322...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On May 18, 7:17 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> >> Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >> news:3d78386c-0916-4b98-97dc-
> >> 58246091c...@g9g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
> >>
> >> > Isn't it kind of funny how the left is so critical of Churches and
> >> > Religion, but puts total faith in the State?
> >>
> >>     Why do conservatives claim to both love America
> >> AND want to see it broken up?
> >>
> >> http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/secession-movement-just-needs-more-oxygen/
> >
> > We love America as founded.
>
>
> Complete with slavery, no universal
> sufferage, women-as-property, only good
> indian is a dead indian.

• bulls-eye

[�RLMeasures]

In article <XnsA1C4D472B3DB...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell

> ...

� Jefferson not only had slaves, after his wife died he began having sex
with one of his slaves who was also his half-sister. Her name was Sally
Hemings.

[opel]

On 5/18/2013 7:58 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Slavery is specifically mentioned and
> tolerated in the Constitution. Jefferson
> and even Washington himself owned slaves.

Live in the deep dark past much, twinky?

[opel]

On 5/18/2013 8:00 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> The conservative grasp of history is a wonder to behold.

The libitarded revision of it is repulsive.

[George Kerby]

On 5/18/13 7:07 PM, in article
4c976ab2-944b-4370...@h13g2000yqe.googlegroups.com, "wy"

Pay attention here Canook Bitch-Cunt, you just might learn something between
your trick-turning...

<http://www.youtube.com/embed/9RABZq5IoaQ?feature=player_embedded>

[George Kerby]

On 5/18/13 8:58 PM, in article
XnsA1C4D472B3DB...@216.196.121.131, "Mitchell Holman"

Pay attention here LibTard...

<http://www.youtube.com/embed/9RABZq5IoaQ?feature=player_embedded>

Did you even POSSIBLY learn something?

Thought not: Once a LibTard...

[George Kerby]

On 5/18/13 9:23 PM, in article r-1805131...@10.0.1.3, "•RLMeasures"

You just love putting down the black race don't ya?!?

Well, here's a little piece for your Racist ass, and you AIN'T gonna like it
one iota...

<http://www.youtube.com/embed/9RABZq5IoaQ?feature=player_embedded>

Too much God in it for you, eh? Too much guns? Too much GUTS for you?

HA-HA-HAWWWWWWWWW!!!

[•RLMeasures]

In article <CDBE5193.9BE37%ghost_...@hotmail.com>, George Kerby

• zero

[PATRICK]

Mitchell Hlman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>Tracey12 <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote

>
>> Isn't it kind of funny how the left is so critical of Churches and
>> Religion, but puts total faith in the State?

> Why do conservatives claim to both love America
>AND want to see it broken up?

20 Ways to Tell if you're a Democrat

1) You believe the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of funding.
2) You have to be against capital punishment but for abortion on
demand - In short: you support protecting the guilty and killing the
innocent.
3) You have to believe that the same overpaid public school idiot who
can't teach 4th graders how to read is qualified to teach those same
kids about sex.
4) You have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless heroes and
doctors are overpaid.
5) You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans
are more of a threat than nuclear weapons in the hands of the Koreans.
6) You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by
cyclical, documented changes in the brilliance of the Sun, and more
affected by yuppies driving SUVs.
7) You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being gay
is natural.
8) You have to believe that businesses create oppression and
governments create prosperity.
9) You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature but
pasty-faced activists who've never been outside Seattle do.
10) You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than
actually doing something to earn it.
11) You have to believe there was no art before federal funding.
12) You have to believe the military, not corrupt politicians, start
wars.
13) You have to believe the free market that gives us 500+ channels
can't deliver the programming quality PBS does.
14) You have to believe the NRA is bad, because it stands up for
certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good, because
they stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.
15) You have to believe that taxes are too low but ATM fees are too
high.
16) You have to believe that Harriet Tubman, Cesar Chavez and Gloria
Steinman are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson,
General Robert E. Lee or Thomas Alva Edison.
17) You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial
quotas and set-asides aren't.
18) You have to believe that second-hand smoke is more dangerous than
HIV.
19) You have to believe that conservatives are racists but black
people couldn't make it without your help.
20) You have to believe that the only reason democratic socialism
hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people
haven't been in charge.



Things you have to believe to be a Democrat today:
Drug addiction is a disease that should be treated with compassion and
understanding...unless the addict is a Conservative talk show host.

The United States should be subservient to the United Nations. Our
highest authority is not God and the U.S. Constitution, but a
collective of tinpot dictators (and their appeasers) and the U.N.
charter.

Government should relax drug laws regardless of the potential for
abuse, but should pass new and unConstitutional anti-gun laws because
of the potential for abuse.

Calls for increased security after a terrorist attack are "political
opportunism," but calls for more gun control after a criminal's spree
killing is "a logical solution."

"It Takes a Village" means everything you want it to mean...except
creeping socialist government involvement in the nuclear family.

Disarming innocent, law-abiding citizens helps protect them from evil,
lawless terrorists and other thugs.

Slowly killing an unborn innocent by tearing it apart limb from limb
is good. Slowly killing an innocent disabled woman by starving her to
death is good. Quickly killing terrorists, convicted murderers and
rapists is BAD.

Every religion should be respected and promoted in public schools the
name of diversity, so long as that religion isn't Christianity.

The best way to support our troops is to criticize their every move.
This will let them know they're thought of often.

Sexual harassment, groping and drug use are degenerate if you're the
governor of California, but it's okay if you're the President of the
United States.

Sex education should be required so that teens can make informed
choices about sex, but gun education should be banned because it will
turn those same teens into maniacal mass-murderers.

Minorities are blameless for the hatred of the racist; women are
blameless for the hatred of the rapist; but America is entirely at
fault for the hatred of Islamofascists.

Poverty is the cause of all terrorism...which is why the leaders of al
Qaeda are typically U.S.-educated and were raised in wealth and
luxury.

The Patriot Act is a horrific compromise of Constitutional rights, but
anti-Second Amendment laws and Franklin Roosevelt's Presidential Order
9066 must be regarded "reasonable precautions."

We should unquestioningly honor the wishes of our age-old allies, even
when said allies no longer act like our allies and have vested
economic interests in propping up our enemies.

Socialized medicine is the ideal. Nevermind all those people who spend
every dime they have to get to the United States so they can get
quality medical care...that their nation's socialized medical
community can't provide.

Michael Moore, Noam Chomsky and Natalie Maines are perfectly qualified
to criticize our leadership, but Arnold Schwarzenegger, Charlton
Heston, and Dennis Miller are just ignorant political hacks.

John Lott's research on how gun ownership reduces crime is junk
science, but Michael Bellesiles is still an authority on why gun
control is good (even though he was forced to resign from Emory due to
research misconduct over his book "Arming America").

Bush's toppling the Saddam regime was a "diversion," but Clinton's
lobbing a couple of cruise missiles at Iraq in the thick of the
Lewinsky sex scandal was "sending a message."

A president who lies under oath is okay, but a president who
references sixteen words from an allies' intelligence report should be
dragged through the streets naked.

Government should limit itself to the powers named in the
Constitution, which include banning Second Amendment rights and
shopping the courts for judges sympathetic to causes that wouldn't
pass in any legislature.

"The People" in the First Amendment means The People; "the People" in
the Fourth Amendment means The People; "the People" in the Ninth
Amendment means The People; "the People" in the Tenth Amendment means
The People; but "the People" in the Second Amendment (ratified in
1791) means the National Guard (created by an Act of Congress in
1903).

You support a woman's "right to choose" to kill her unborn child, but
don't believe that same woman is competent enough to homeschool the
children she bears.

Proven draft-dodging is irrelevant, but baseless claims of AWOL status
is crucial to national security.

Threatening to boycott Dr. Laura's and Rush Limbaugh's advertisers is
exercising Freedom of Speech, but threatening to boycott CBS's "The
Reagans" and Liberal actors over their asinine anti-American remarks
is censorship and McCarthyist blacklisting.

1. "The People" in the First Amendment means The People; "the
People" in the Fourth Amendment means The People; "the People" in the
Ninth Amendment means The People; "the People" in the Tenth Amendment
means The People; but "the People" in the Second Amendment (ratified
in 1791) means the National Guard (created by an Act of Congress in
1903).
2. You support a woman's "right to choose" to kill her unborn
child, but don't believe that same woman is competent enough to
homeschool the children she bears.
3. Proven draft-dodging is irrelevant, but baseless claims of
AWOL status is crucial to national security.
4. You fervently believe that rabidly referring to your political
opponent as an "idiot" is a good idea...even after that "idiot"
whipped your ass in the 2000 and 2004 elections.
5. Everyone must unquestioningly support a junior senator with
negligible political experience for president. 'Cause, like, if you
don't, well...dude, you're a racist!
6. All cultures must be treated as equal. This is why we have to
make excuses for Muslims when they riot, rape and slaughter, but
vilify Christians when they organize letter writing campaigns.
7. America can only be great if it raises taxes, punishes the
successful, rewards the lazy, creates bigger government, and funds
more socialist programs. It worked for the Soviet Union, right?
8. Being against illegal immigration is racist. Nevermind that
illegal isn't a race.
9. Global warming is caused by humans burning fossil fuels, which
is why the Ice Age ended a mere 10,000 years before the invention of
the internal combustion engine.
10. Everyone has the right to disagree, but only with Republicans.
11. The only way to be a "real American" is to hate everything
America stands for.
12. The only unbiased media is the European media, but only
because they hate the United States of America even more than the
liberal media in the U.S.
13. Congress must create a "Fairness Doctrine" to counter the
commercial success of conservative talk radio and the resounding
failure of Air America. (Nevermind that we already have a
government-subsidized liberal mouthpiece called National Public
Radio.)
14. Any Republican who sides with Democrats should be instantly
assigned the role of "leading Republican" in all media reports. This
position is immediately forfeited the moment said Republican starts
acting like an American again.
15. The pseudoscience of "global warming" must be unquestioningly
accepted because a consensus of scientists say it's real. Nevermind
that there was also once a consensus among scientists that the Earth
was flat, the Sun revolved around the Earth, and that caucasians were
genetically superior to all other races.

[Mitchell Holman]

PATRICK <pbark...@woh.rr.com> wrote in
news:cifip8t5k1e1djb3v...@4ax.com:

>
> Mitchell Hlman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>>Tracey12 <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>> Isn't it kind of funny how the left is so critical of Churches and
>>> Religion, but puts total faith in the State?
>
>> Why do conservatives claim to both love America
>>AND want to see it broken up?
>
> 20 Ways to Tell if you're a Democrat

1) You support regulations that maintain
clean water.

2) You support regulations that maintain
clean air

3) You support regulations that maintain
a safe food supply.

4) You support the regulations that keep
your workplace safe.

5) You support the regulations that protect
endangered species.

6) You support the creation and upkeep of
national parks.

7) You support the creation and upkeep of
space exploration.

8) You support the creation and upkeep of
earth sciences.

9) You support the National Weather Service
and use when in danger.

10) You support the creation and upkeep of
the national highway system.

11) You support a social safety net that any
of us might have to use someday.

12) You believe national defense is the sole
purpose of defense spending.

13) You support keeping American jobs in America.

14) You support public universities.

15) You oppose spending public money on churches.

16) You support public museums, parks zoos and
the arts.

17) You support regulations that prevent banks
and insurance companies from getting "too big to
fail".

18) You support ending the useless embargo on Cuba

19) You oppose taxpayer money going to corporate
welfare.

20) You support closing all US prisons abroad.

[opel]

On 5/19/2013 5:41 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> 1) You support regulations that maintain
> clean water.

Buy a reverse osmosis filter, twinky.

[Paul Duca]

> Buy a reverse osmosis filter.
>
> Boost the economy and maybe we both might get laid.

[Paul Duca]

On Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:41:16 PM UTC-4, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> PATRICK <pbark...@woh.rr.com> wrote in
>
> news:cifip8t5k1e1djb3v...@4ax.com:
>
>
>
> >
>
> > Mitchell Hlman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
> >>Tracey12 <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >>
>
> >>> Isn't it kind of funny how the left is so critical of Churches and
>
> >>> Religion, but puts total faith in the State?
>
> >
>
> >> Why do conservatives claim to both love America
>
> >>AND want to see it broken up?
>
> >
>

Because Rush and Bill tell him his God loves Patrick MORE for doing so...never noticing he does all the other "approved" things and America has yet to make him a millionaire with a house full of darkie servants.

Paul

[David Johnston]

On 5/18/2013 5:27 PM, Hell Stomper wrote:
> On May 18, 7:17 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>> Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3d78386c-0916-4b98-97dc-
>> 58246091c...@g9g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Isn't it kind of funny how the left is so critical of Churches and
>>> Religion, but puts total faith in the State?
>>
>> Why do conservatives claim to both love America
>> AND want to see it broken up?
>>
>> http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/secession-movement-just-needs-more-oxygen/
>
> We love America as founded.

Complete with slaves?

[opel]

And clean water, air and native indians who scalp settlers...

[•RLMeasures]

• Maybe a limit of one hundred black slaves per white master would be better?

[George Kerby]

On 5/22/13 8:33 AM, in article r-2205130...@10.0.1.3, "•RLMeasures"

Shit, why limit yourself there, Measures? Maybe 500? And if your limousine
liberal Congress could tax them, so much better, right?!?

[�RLMeasures]

In article <CDC29AF0.9C2B6%ghost_...@hotmail.com>, George Kerby

� how about 200 slaves?