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Onion
May 15, 2013, 2:15:55 PM5/15/13
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On May 14, 1:17 pm, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
> On May 14, 3:47 am, Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > In the King James Version of the Bible, it quotes one of the Ten Commandments as:"Thou shalt not kill".
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> > How then, do we explain the Crusades, a military expedition ordered by the Pope in the 11th century?????
>
> > The first commandment reads:"I am the Lord thy God:thou shall have no other gods before me".
>
> > How then do we explain the Christian claim that Jesus is the Son of God and therefore divine?
>
> Why are you asking atheists?
>
>
>
> > Another of the commandments prohibits the making of "graven images".
> > How, then, do we explain pictures and statues of Jesus in Christian churches and statues of saints made by Catholics?
>
> The catholics saw early on that if they kept that commandment, they'd
> lose a lucrative market in holy images. So they dumped the
> commandment about not making any graven images and redistributed parts
> of the first commandment to make a new second commandment, and, having
> accomplished that, opened a gift shop.
WHY DO YOU THINK EVERYTHING HAS TO BE ABOUT MONEY?
Catholics had a good reason to dump the commandment and this appears
to be consistent with their core doctrine of incarnation. If Jesus is
the Living
God who dictated the Law to God, there is no sense not to represent
Him
as the reason not to represent God was clearly stated in the Torah:
'BECAUSE YOU DID NOT SEE MY FACE, when I was speaking to you
at Horeb, you shall not represent me."
HOW DARE YOU ATHEISTS
>
> Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
> skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
> On May 14, 3:47 am, Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In the King James Version of the Bible, it quotes one of the Ten Commandments as:"Thou shalt not kill".
>
> > How then, do we explain the Crusades, a military expedition ordered by the Pope in the 11th century?????
>
> > The first commandment reads:"I am the Lord thy God:thou shall have no other gods before me".
>
> > How then do we explain the Christian claim that Jesus is the Son of God and therefore divine?
>
> Why are you asking atheists?
>
>
>
> > Another of the commandments prohibits the making of "graven images".
> > How, then, do we explain pictures and statues of Jesus in Christian churches and statues of saints made by Catholics?
>
> The catholics saw early on that if they kept that commandment, they'd
> lose a lucrative market in holy images. So they dumped the
> commandment about not making any graven images and redistributed parts
> of the first commandment to make a new second commandment, and, having
> accomplished that, opened a gift shop.
WHY DO YOU THINK EVERYTHING HAS TO BE ABOUT MONEY?
Catholics had a good reason to dump the commandment and this appears
to be consistent with their core doctrine of incarnation. If Jesus is
the Living
God who dictated the Law to God, there is no sense not to represent
Him
as the reason not to represent God was clearly stated in the Torah:
'BECAUSE YOU DID NOT SEE MY FACE, when I was speaking to you
at Horeb, you shall not represent me."
HOW DARE YOU ATHEISTS
>
> Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
> skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
Onion
May 16, 2013, 11:59:21 AM5/16/13
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On May 16, 11:38 am, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
> Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in news:29c52485-5f20-4755-9660-
> 9166ed44f...@d6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Only the Torah was dictated by God
> > as far as we know.
>
> You misspelled "believe".
We know it to be true because Jesus Al Massih/Christ confirmed it.
I did not misspelled believe, you guys are the ones
introducing a new faulty approach...
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It is true, the mystery of our FAITH...Our Lord rules
the worlds
>
> --
> Uncle Vic
> aa# 2011
> BAAWA
>
> AA Quotemeister
>
> Visit my You Tube Channel!http://www.youtube.com/user/Vicman6311?feature=mhee
> Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in news:29c52485-5f20-4755-9660-
> 9166ed44f...@d6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Only the Torah was dictated by God
> > as far as we know.
>
> You misspelled "believe".
We know it to be true because Jesus Al Massih/Christ confirmed it.
I did not misspelled believe, you guys are the ones
introducing a new faulty approach...
---------------
It is true, the mystery of our FAITH...Our Lord rules
the worlds
>
> --
> Uncle Vic
> aa# 2011
> BAAWA
>
> AA Quotemeister
>
> Visit my You Tube Channel!http://www.youtube.com/user/Vicman6311?feature=mhee
Uncle Vic
May 16, 2013, 10:47:42 PM5/16/13
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Onion <kolw...@astromail.com> wrote in news:b0485bb0-3e65-4462-a705-
ffa7fe...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> It is true, the mystery of our FAITH...Our Lord rules
> the worlds
Why are they named after Roman gods then?
ffa7fe...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> It is true, the mystery of our FAITH...Our Lord rules
> the worlds
Onion
May 20, 2013, 10:19:58 AM5/20/13
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On May 16, 10:47 pm, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
> Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in news:b0485bb0-3e65-4462-a705-
> ffa7fe18c...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in news:b0485bb0-3e65-4462-a705-
> ffa7fe18c...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > It is true, the mystery of our FAITH...Our Lord rules
> > the worlds
>
> Why are they named after Roman gods then?
Who "they"? Clarify your thought on this Sir
> > It is true, the mystery of our FAITH...Our Lord rules
> > the worlds
>
> Why are they named after Roman gods then?
Onion
May 20, 2013, 10:22:10 AM5/20/13
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On May 16, 11:40 pm, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Le 2013-05-16 12:09, Onion a écrit :
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> > On May 15, 11:47 pm, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Le 2013-05-15 10:06, Onion a crit :
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> >>> On May 14, 5:53 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> >>>> Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote innews:29c52485-5f20-4755...@d6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com:
>
> >>>>> On May 14, 8:46 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>>> innews:963e8d73-9151-4785...@googlegroups.com:
>
> >>>>> This has nothing to do with the religion
> >>>>> Nobody asks you to believe any of this verse
> >>>>> for salvation
>
> >>>>>> David took seven hundred (2 Sam. 8:4), seven thousand
> >>>>>> (1 Chron. 18:4) horsemen from Hadadezer;
>
> >>>>> This is NOT the Torah... Only the Torah was dictated by God
> >>>> has so many mistakes and contradictions?
>
> >>> The LAW/TORAH dictated to Moses by God and secured in the ARK
> >>> of COVENANT has NO contradiction.
>
> >> Anyone found that ark yet?
>
> > WHO WAS SEARCHING FOR IT?
>
> Lots of people, actually. They even made a superb documentary about it:
>
> <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082971>
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> > We found the MESSIAH/CHRIST who is a far better
> > ark than the one sculpted by the hands of man.
>
> But like the ark, it did not even exist.
>
> > --------------
> > Our books are good. So Good... I mean damn GOOD
> > sometime I feel like I wanna scream
>
> You're one very perturbed individual, Cody.
And that is the lie you have been telling yourself to indulge
yourself in homosexuality. KEEP fooling yourself
>
> --
> Olrik
> aa #1981
> EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
> Le 2013-05-16 12:09, Onion a écrit :
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> > On May 15, 11:47 pm, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Le 2013-05-15 10:06, Onion a crit :
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> >>> On May 14, 5:53 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> >>>> Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote innews:29c52485-5f20-4755...@d6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com:
>
> >>>>> On May 14, 8:46 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>>> innews:963e8d73-9151-4785...@googlegroups.com:
>
> >>>>>>> In the King James Version of the Bible, it quotes one of the Ten
> >>>>>>> Commandments as:"Thou shalt not kill".
>
> >>>>>>> How then, do we explain the Crusades, a military expedition ordered
> >>>>>>> by the Pope in the 11th century?????
>
> >>>>>>> The first commandment reads:"I am the Lord thy God:thou shall have
> >>>>>>> no other gods before me".
>
> >>>>>>> How then do we explain the Christian claim that Jesus is the Son of
> >>>>>>> God and therefore divine?
>
> >>>>>>> In the King James Version of the Bible, it quotes one of the Ten
> >>>>>>> Commandments as:"Thou shalt not kill".
>
> >>>>>>> How then, do we explain the Crusades, a military expedition ordered
> >>>>>>> by the Pope in the 11th century?????
>
> >>>>>>> The first commandment reads:"I am the Lord thy God:thou shall have
> >>>>>>> no other gods before me".
>
> >>>>>>> How then do we explain the Christian claim that Jesus is the Son of
> >>>>>>> God and therefore divine?
>
> >>>>>>> Another of the commandments prohibits the making of "graven
> >>>>>>> images". How, then, do we explain pictures and statues of Jesus in
> >>>>>>> Christian churches and statues of saints made by Catholics?
>
> >>>>>> You think your religion is free of contradictions?
> >>>>>>> images". How, then, do we explain pictures and statues of Jesus in
> >>>>>>> Christian churches and statues of saints made by Catholics?
>
>
> >>>>> This has nothing to do with the religion
> >>>>> Nobody asks you to believe any of this verse
> >>>>> for salvation
>
> >>>>>> David took seven hundred (2 Sam. 8:4), seven thousand
> >>>>>> (1 Chron. 18:4) horsemen from Hadadezer;
>
> >>>>> This is NOT the Torah... Only the Torah was dictated by God
> >>>>> as far as we know.
>
> >>>> So whose fault is it that the Torah
>
> >>>> has so many mistakes and contradictions?
>
> >>> The LAW/TORAH dictated to Moses by God and secured in the ARK
> >>> of COVENANT has NO contradiction.
>
> >> Anyone found that ark yet?
>
> > WHO WAS SEARCHING FOR IT?
>
> Lots of people, actually. They even made a superb documentary about it:
>
> <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082971>
>
> > We found the MESSIAH/CHRIST who is a far better
> > ark than the one sculpted by the hands of man.
>
> But like the ark, it did not even exist.
>
> > --------------
> > Our books are good. So Good... I mean damn GOOD
> > sometime I feel like I wanna scream
>
> You're one very perturbed individual, Cody.
And that is the lie you have been telling yourself to indulge
yourself in homosexuality. KEEP fooling yourself
>
> --
> Olrik
> aa #1981
> EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
jwshe...@satx.rr.com
May 20, 2013, 2:09:22 PM5/20/13
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On May 20, 9:19 am, Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote:
> On May 16, 10:47 pm, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
>
> > Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in news:b0485bb0-3e65-4462-a705-
> > ffa7fe18c...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > It is true, the mystery of our FAITH...Our Lord rules
> > > the worlds
>
> > Why are they named after Roman gods then?
>
> Who "they"? Clarify your thought on this Sir
>
Duh! The Planets,
> On May 16, 10:47 pm, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
>
> > Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in news:b0485bb0-3e65-4462-a705-
> > ffa7fe18c...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > It is true, the mystery of our FAITH...Our Lord rules
> > > the worlds
>
> > Why are they named after Roman gods then?
>
> Who "they"? Clarify your thought on this Sir
>
Mercury,Venus,Terra,Mars,Jupiter,Saturn,
Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
•RLMeasures
May 20, 2013, 2:51:55 PM5/20/13
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In article
<99e7161e-90b2-4f75...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
"jwshe...@satx.rr.com" <jwshe...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 9:19=A0am, Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote:
<99e7161e-90b2-4f75...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
"jwshe...@satx.rr.com" <jwshe...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 9:19=A0am, Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote:
> > On May 16, 10:47=A0pm, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in news:b0485bb0-3e65-4462-a705-
> > > ffa7fe18c...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> >
> > > > It is true, the mystery of our FAITH...Our Lord rules
> > > > the worlds
> >
> > > Why are they named after Roman gods then?
> >
> > Who "they"? Clarify your thought on this Sir
> >
> Duh! The Planets,
> Mercury,Venus,Terra,Mars,Jupiter,Saturn,
> Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
>
• Earth is the name of some god?
> >
> > > Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in news:b0485bb0-3e65-4462-a705-
> > > ffa7fe18c...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> >
> > > > It is true, the mystery of our FAITH...Our Lord rules
> > > > the worlds
> >
> > > Why are they named after Roman gods then?
> >
> > Who "they"? Clarify your thought on this Sir
> >
> Duh! The Planets,
> Mercury,Venus,Terra,Mars,Jupiter,Saturn,
> Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
>
jwshe...@satx.rr.com
May 20, 2013, 5:33:07 PM5/20/13
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On May 20, 1:51 pm, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
> In article
> <99e7161e-90b2-4f75-bacd-c93f62b8a...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Probably of great antiquity, she was concerned with the productivity
of the earth and was later identified with the mother-goddess Cybele.
Her temple on the Esquiline Hill dated from about 268 bc. Though she
had no special priest, she was honoured in the Fordicidia and
Sementivae festivals, both of which centred on fertility and good
crops.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/586397/Tellus
> In article
> <99e7161e-90b2-4f75-bacd-c93f62b8a...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
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> "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com" <jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> > On May 20, 9:19=A0am, Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 16, 10:47=A0pm, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in news:b0485bb0-3e65-4462-a705-
> > > > ffa7fe18c...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > > > It is true, the mystery of our FAITH...Our Lord rules
> > > > > the worlds
>
> > > > Why are they named after Roman gods then?
>
> > > Who "they"? Clarify your thought on this Sir
>
> > Duh! The Planets,
> > Mercury,Venus,Terra,Mars,Jupiter,Saturn,
> > Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
>
> • Earth is the name of some god?
Tellus, also called Terra Mater, ancient Roman earth goddess.
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> "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com" <jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> > On May 20, 9:19=A0am, Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 16, 10:47=A0pm, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in news:b0485bb0-3e65-4462-a705-
> > > > ffa7fe18c...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > > > It is true, the mystery of our FAITH...Our Lord rules
> > > > > the worlds
>
> > > > Why are they named after Roman gods then?
>
> > > Who "they"? Clarify your thought on this Sir
>
> > Duh! The Planets,
> > Mercury,Venus,Terra,Mars,Jupiter,Saturn,
> > Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
>
> • Earth is the name of some god?
Probably of great antiquity, she was concerned with the productivity
of the earth and was later identified with the mother-goddess Cybele.
Her temple on the Esquiline Hill dated from about 268 bc. Though she
had no special priest, she was honoured in the Fordicidia and
Sementivae festivals, both of which centred on fertility and good
crops.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/586397/Tellus
Olrik
May 21, 2013, 12:18:25 AM5/21/13
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Le 2013-05-20 10:22, Onion a �crit :
Why are supposedly religious people the most immoral persons around? Why
do they feel the need to be dishonest and deceitful?
> On May 16, 11:40 pm, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Le 2013-05-16 12:09, Onion a �crit :
do they feel the need to be dishonest and deceitful?
•RLMeasures
May 21, 2013, 4:35:51 AM5/21/13
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In article
<050e918e-7c6c-4582...@a8g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
"jwshe...@satx.rr.com" <jwshe...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 1:51=A0pm, r...@somis.org (=95RLMeasures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <99e7161e-90b2-4f75-bacd-c93f62b8a...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
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> > "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com" <jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> > > On May 20, 9:19=3DA0am, Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote:
> > > > On May 16, 10:47=3DA0pm, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in news:b0485bb0-3e65-4462-a70=
> > > =A0 =A0 Mercury,Venus,Terra,Mars,Jupiter,Saturn,
> > > =A0 =A0 Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
> >
> > =95 =A0Earth is the name of some god?
<050e918e-7c6c-4582...@a8g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
"jwshe...@satx.rr.com" <jwshe...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 1:51=A0pm, r...@somis.org (=95RLMeasures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <99e7161e-90b2-4f75-bacd-c93f62b8a...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> >
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> > "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com" <jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > On May 16, 10:47=3DA0pm, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in news:b0485bb0-3e65-4462-a70=
> 5-
> > > > > ffa7fe18c...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> >
> > > > > > It is true, the mystery of our FAITH...Our Lord rules
> > > > > > the worlds
> >
> > > > > Why are they named after Roman gods then?
> >
> > > > Who "they"? Clarify your thought on this Sir
> >
> > > =A0 =A0 Duh! The Planets,
> > > > > ffa7fe18c...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> >
> > > > > > It is true, the mystery of our FAITH...Our Lord rules
> > > > > > the worlds
> >
> > > > > Why are they named after Roman gods then?
> >
> > > > Who "they"? Clarify your thought on this Sir
> >
> > > =A0 =A0 Mercury,Venus,Terra,Mars,Jupiter,Saturn,
> > > =A0 =A0 Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
> >
> > =95 =A0Earth is the name of some god?
>
> Tellus, also called Terra Mater, ancient Roman earth goddess.
> Probably of great antiquity, she was concerned with the productivity
> of the earth and was later identified with the mother-goddess Cybele.
*** thanks.
> Tellus, also called Terra Mater, ancient Roman earth goddess.
> Probably of great antiquity, she was concerned with the productivity
> of the earth and was later identified with the mother-goddess Cybele.
Kenny McCormack
May 21, 2013, 11:43:58 AM5/21/13
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In article <r-2005131...@10.0.1.3>, RLMeasures <r...@somis.org> wrote:
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God?
The canonical answer is 1 (Earth), but that may not be right if the poster
who told us all about "Tellus" (From which we get "Terra", as in "Terra
Haute" (Indiana)). But the other answer is Uranus - which is, in fact,
named after a Greek God (look it up).
So, the answer is 1 or 2, depending on whether you accept Earth.
--
"They shall be attended by boys graced with eternal youth, who to the
beholder?s eyes will seem like sprinkled pearls. When you gaze upon that
scene, you will behold a kingdom blissful and glorious."
--- Qur'an 76:19 ---
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>> Duh! The Planets,
>> Mercury,Venus,Terra,Mars,Jupiter,Saturn,
>> Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
>>
>� Earth is the name of some god?
A good trivia question is: Which planet(s) is/are not named after a Roman
>> Mercury,Venus,Terra,Mars,Jupiter,Saturn,
>> Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
>>
>� Earth is the name of some god?
God?
The canonical answer is 1 (Earth), but that may not be right if the poster
who told us all about "Tellus" (From which we get "Terra", as in "Terra
Haute" (Indiana)). But the other answer is Uranus - which is, in fact,
named after a Greek God (look it up).
So, the answer is 1 or 2, depending on whether you accept Earth.
--
"They shall be attended by boys graced with eternal youth, who to the
beholder?s eyes will seem like sprinkled pearls. When you gaze upon that
scene, you will behold a kingdom blissful and glorious."
--- Qur'an 76:19 ---
Tshepa Thapelo
May 28, 2013, 12:42:58 PM5/28/13
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On May 20, 2:09 pm, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
Therefore it seems to me pointless to answer him.
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Mugabe is my hero... Don't mess with Africa, predators
<jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 9:19 am, Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote:> On May 16, 10:47 pm, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
>
> > > Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in news:b0485bb0-3e65-4462-a705-
> > > ffa7fe18c...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > > It is true, the mystery of our FAITH...Our Lord rules
> > > > the worlds
>
> > > Why are they named after Roman gods then?
>
> > Who "they"? Clarify your thought on this Sir
>
> Duh! The Planets,
> Mercury,Venus,Terra,Mars,Jupiter,Saturn,
> Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
He was off topic again then...
> On May 20, 9:19 am, Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote:> On May 16, 10:47 pm, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
>
> > > Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in news:b0485bb0-3e65-4462-a705-
> > > ffa7fe18c...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > > It is true, the mystery of our FAITH...Our Lord rules
> > > > the worlds
>
> > > Why are they named after Roman gods then?
>
> > Who "they"? Clarify your thought on this Sir
>
> Duh! The Planets,
> Mercury,Venus,Terra,Mars,Jupiter,Saturn,
> Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
Therefore it seems to me pointless to answer him.
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