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A PAPAL MONSTER.

In a spiritual sense, all Popes are monsters, since they lay claim to an
authority  that outrages the honour of God  and the liberty of man.

But in the personal sense there are Popes who are what  may be called
"Gentlemen" and Popes who are very much not so.

The worst specimen of a Pope who ever presided  over the European nightmare
was the father of the atrociously-renowned Caesar Borgia. He was known as
Alexander VI.
He left behind him a more detestable memory than Nero or Caligula.

His first official infamy was the unblushing purchase of the votes of fellow
Cardinals that made him Pope.

To one he offered four mule loads of silver, to another he gave a palace, to
another an Abby, to others, money in various large amounts.

He was enabled to do this by reason of the official position he held under
his uncle (Pope Calixtus III.) as the Papal Vice-Chancellor.

When he was elected, he showed indecent haste to proclaim the fact, and held
a coronation festival with a pomp exceeding all proceeding ceremonies of
that kind.

In the course of time, France invaded Italy and the French King, who had
been opposed by Alexander in certain claims, overran Italy and captured
Rome.

Alexander took refuge in the Castle of St. Angelo. He sent for the French
King's minister, and offered to make him a Cardinal for the benefit of his
services.

 Their minister was caught by the bait, and bought about the reconciliation
with the king who afterwards repented of his lenity.

The Pope privately  sent to the Turkish Sultan, Bajazet II. imploring his
help to drive the French King out of Italy, by offering to bring about the
murder of Bajazet's rival (his own brother) who had made an unsuccessful
attempt on the Sultan's throne, and had afterwards taken refuge at the
French Court.

The unhappy man soon afterwards perished in the hands of the King of France
in a way that left little doubt as to the author  of his death.

Pope Alexander, who by the laws of the Church was 'celibate', had several
sons, whom he promoted to high positions.

At the same time, he disgraced human nature by extraordinary excesses. He
was publicly accused of a criminal correspondence with his own sister, whom
he took away from three husbands successively.

He caused the last husband to be assassinated that he might bestow his
sister in marriage upon a favourite. The nuptials were celebrated in the
Vatican by the most shameless diversions that debauch had ever invented for
the confusion of modesty. Fifty courtesans danced naked before the
incestuous family, and prizes were given to those who exhibited the most
lascivious motions. [Ejaculated the furthest]

The Popes two sons are said to have publicly disputed the favours of their
sister, Lucretia, and one being worsted by the other, was assassinated by
the other brothers connivance.

  Caesar Borgia, who also in a rage, pursued his father's favourite
secretary to his fathers very arms, and there butchered him, the Popes robe
being saturated with the victims blood.

Pope Alexander excused his son's murderous violence as "the error of youth"
saying, "He really is a good fellow, it is only a pity he cannot endure to
be offended".

Pope Alexander's ostentatious ways required money, of which he often ran
short. To replenish his coffers he hesitated at no crime, but warily covered
up his tracks.

By the law of the church, the estate of any Cardinal dying became the
property of the Pope. When everything else failed him, he would contrive the
murder of a Cardinal, but took care to have it done by some zealous
subordinate, who's act he disclaimed by his execution, while getting the
benefit of the murder.

He also contrived occasions for seizure and spoliation of the Roman
aristocracy, who did not live long after they passed through the doors of
the Popes prison.

Opulent persons died of poisoning with alarming frequency during this evil
Pope's reign, and invariably the Pope pounced on their estates before their
was opportunity for appropriation among the heirs

At last in (in 1503) the Pope himself died in a way that gave rise to the
suspicion that he himself had been poisoned.

Ere the corpse was cold, the satellites of Caesar Borgia thronged and
pillaged the Pontifical apartments. At the funeral, there was a brawl
between priests and soldiers, in the fighting the body was exposed, and
shocked the spectators by it's horrid decomposition.

It was pulled about, stripped of it's gaudy cerements, wrapped in an old
carpet, and forced with blows and jeers into a narrow coffin and flung into
an obscure vault.

A critical biographer noted "He was too destitute of morality to have the
least insight into the tendencies of his times"

He cannot be accused of preparing the misfortunes of Italy, but he did not
disdain to profit by them. His licentiousness and contempt of ecclesiastical
decorum are partly palliated by the circumstances of his initiation into the
Romanish Church.

He was an untrained to the ecclesiastical profession,  never felt himself a
priest, and was wholly regardless of the Churches interest as such.

Yet  are we are not asked to believe The Apostle Peter, with God's blessing,
sanctioned  such a disgusting monster, coupled with all the other corrupted
and immoral Popes their have been throughout the ages?

How many times do the cohorts of this debauched denomination plead the
following:
"18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will
build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.19 And I
will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou
shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt
loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."  Matt 16:18-19 (KJV)

Well, such wicked and the boundless evil deeds of the Romanish Church as
unearthed above are
certainly now "Bound in heaven" but not to their salvation, but to it's
inevitable annihilation coupled with
the beguiled fools who worship at it's feet.
The Great Whore is about to meet her end on the Return of Jesus Christ.

"12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the
commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."  Rev 14:12 (KJV)

On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 20:27:10 GMT, "Straight John Bull"

Ignorant, of course they honour God!

We've Evolved....Just like anyone else.

Why do you hate the Church that your denonmination is a off shoot
of......Shame Shame on you.  You're mean and you had better take a
look at yourself.  You come in here spittin' your crap out.  Why? why
do you do that....my personal feeling is that it's jealousy, other
wise you wouldn't give a rats arse about the 1 billion plus and what
we do.

"Straight John Bull" <StraightJohnBull@.com> wrote in message
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Well, we have Evil Editor routinely posting evil bible verses.  Why don't
you provide us with a similar regular service by posting stories and information
about the evil done by various popes?  You've got a very long list of
popes to go through, and many of them left behind historical records
of the evil they did.  Call it "Monster Potpourri!"

The itty bitty sects need to whistle loudly because it's lonely and scary being
tiny and faced with the darkness.  They can't bear to think that they might be
wrong, that their forebears were wrong, and that the real party's going on
somewhere else.

Other churches, if they had the kind of sinners and monsters that we
occasionally have, even at the highest levels, would have disappeared long ago.
 The fact that we survive and even flourish in spite of these horrible black
marks indicates that something special is going on in the Catholic Church.  

How did Jesus answer John's disciples?  "The blind see, the lame walk, and the
poor have the good news preached to them."  Miracles and missionaries have
always been with us; they are very Catholic things.  

It would be a short series.  The list of real papal monsters is short.  There
aren't many like Alexander VI.  I expect that if there is any justification for
the Reformation, Alexander and his family and the stench he left behind are a
big part of it.  

From http://www.catholic-defense.com/

The Papacy
"I, Boniface, bishop by the grace of God, promise to you, the blessed,
Peter, chief of the apostles, and to thy vicar, the blessed Pope Gregory,
and to his successors, by the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost, the
indivisible Trinity, and by this thy most holy body, that, God helping me, I
will maintain all the belief and the purity of the holy Catholic faith, and
I will remain steadfast in the unity of this faith in which the whole
salvation of Christians lies, as is established without doubt. I will in no
wise oppose the unity of the one universal Church, no matter who may seek to
persuade me. But as I have said, I will maintain my faith and purity and
union with thee and the benefits of thy Church, to whom God has given the
power to loose and to bind, and with thy vicar and his successors, in all
things. And if it comes to my knowledge that priests have turned from the
ancient practices of the holy fathers, I will have no intercourse nor
connection with them; but rather, if I can restrain them, I will. If I
cannot, I will at once faithfully make known the whole matter to my
apostolic lord." - St. Boniface (Apostle to Germany, 8th century)

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"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in
heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them
in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching
them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am
with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen." - Matthew 28:18-20
"When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his
disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said,
Some [say that thou art] John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others,
Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I
am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the l
iving God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon
Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father
which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon
this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail
against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and
whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever
thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Then charged he his
disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ." -
Matthew 16:13-20
"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all
truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear,
[that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify
me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew [it] unto you." - John
16:13-14
"So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, [son] of Jonas,
lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest
that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. He saith to him again
the second time, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him,
Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
He saith unto him the third time, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me?
Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me?
And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I
love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep." - John 21:15-17
"Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in
heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." -
Matthew 18:18

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What the Catechism of the Catholic Church says on the "Papacy:"
869. "The Church is apostolic. She is built on a lasting foundation: 'the
twelve apostles of the Lamb' [Rev 21:14.]. She is indestructible (cf. Mt
16:18). She is upheld infallibly in the truth: Christ governs her through
Peter and the other apostles, who are present in their successors, the Pope
and the college of bishops."

881. "The Lord made Simon alone, whom he named Peter, the 'rock' of his
Church. He gave him the keys of his Church and instituted him shepherd of
the whole flock. [Cf. Mt 16:18-19; Jn 21:15-17 .] 'The office of binding and
loosing which was given to Peter was also assigned to the college of
apostles united to its head.' [LG 22 # 2.] This pastoral office of Peter and
the other apostles belongs to the Church's very foundation and is continued
by the bishops under the primacy of the Pope."

882. "The Pope, Bishop of Rome and Peter's successor, 'is the perpetual and
visible source and foundation of the unity both of the bishops and of the
whole company of the faithful.' [LG 23.] 'For the Roman Pontiff, by reason
of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has
full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he
can always exercise unhindered.' [LG 22; cf. CD 2,9.]"

895. "'The power which they exercise personally in the name of Christ, is
proper, ordinary, and immediate, although its exercise is ultimately
controlled by the supreme authority of the Church.' [LG 27.] But the bishops
should not be thought of as vicars of the Pope. His ordinary and immediate
authority over the whole Church does not annul, but on the contrary confirms
and defends that of the bishops. Their authority must be exercised in
communion with the whole Church under the guidance of the Pope."

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"This, most blessed Pope, is the faith that we have been taught in the
Catholic Church. If anything therein has been incorrectly or carelessly
expressed, we beg that it may be set aright by you who hold the faith and
see of Peter. If however this, our profession, be approved by the judgment
of your apostleship, whoever may blame me, will prove that he himself is
ignorant, or malicious, or even not a Catholic but a heretic." - St. Jerome
(4th century A.D.)

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"Hence He said to Peter before His Ascension, 'Feed my sheep' (John xxi, 1)
and before His Passion, 'Thou in thy turn confirm thy brethren' (Luke xxii,
32); and to him alone He made the promise, 'To thee I will give the keys of
the kingdom of heaven' (Matt. xvi, 19). Nor can it be said that although He
gave this dignity to Peter, it does not pass from Peter to others. For
Christ instituted His Church to last to the end of the world, according to
the text: 'He shall sit upon the throne of David and in his kingdom, to
confirm and strengthen it in justice and judgement from henceforth, now, and
for ever' (Isai. ix, 7). Therefore, in constituting His ministers for the
time, He intended their power to pass to posterity for the benefit of His
Church to the end of the world, as He Himself says: 'Lo, I am with you to
the end of the world' (Matt. xxviii, 20). Hereby is cast out the
presumptuous error of some, who endeavour to withdraw themselves from
obedience and subjection to Peter, not recognising his successor, the Roman
Pontiff, for the pastor of the Universal Church." - St. Thomas Aquinas
("Summa Contra Gentiles" 13th century A.D.)

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COMMENTS
Throughout the Acts of the Apostles, St. Peter is clearly the leader of the
Christian community (Acts 1:15, 5:1-10).  And again, he is listed first
among the Apostles in the New Testament (Matthew 10:2; Mark 3:16-19; Luke
6:13-14).  Before St. Peter was crucified, he appointed St. Linus as his
successor. Why should this practice not be carried on to the present day?
There is an unbroken line of Popes from St. Peter down to the present-day
Pope. The Papacy is the oldest institution in the Western World. How could
it have survived 2000 years without the grace of God and the guidance of the
Holy Spirit?
St. Hegessipus in the 2nd century of the Church had already compiled a list
of the popes, listing the current one at the time (Pope Anacletus) as the
eleventh successor to St. Peter.

--- Chris

From the above site.

Papal Infallibility
"Rome has spoken. The case is closed." - St. Augustine of Hippo ("Sermon
131," 4th century A.D.)

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"All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good
works." - 2 Timothy 3:16-17
"For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to
say." - Luke 12:12

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What the Catechism of the Catholic Church says on "Papal Infallibility:"
889. "In order to preserve the Church in the purity of the faith handed on
by the apostles, Christ who is the Truth willed to confer on her a share in
his own infallibility.  By a 'supernatural sense of faith' the People of
God, under the guidance of the Church's living Magisterium, 'unfailingly
adheres to this faith.' [LG 12; cf. DV 10.]"
890. "The mission of the Magisterium is linked to the definitive nature of
the covenant established by God with his people in Christ. It is this
Magisterium's task to preserve God's people from deviations and defections
and to guarantee them the objective possibility of professing the true faith
without error. Thus, the pastoral duty of the Magisterium is aimed at seeing
to it that the People of God abides in the truth that liberates. To fulfill
this service, Christ endowed the Church's shepherds with the charism of
infallibility in matters of faith and morals. The ...

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