Question: Classical Latin v. Church Latin
Daniel Hoehr
Does anybody have good information/examples/quotes/etc as to how
classical Latin (sort of 1st century AD) varies from "Church Latin".
I'm particularly interested in the main differences (semantically,
idiomatically, syntactically, stylistically, etc) between the Latin
used by Roman writers and the Latin in the Ordo Missae of 1570:
http://members.surfeu.de/dhoehr/catholic/ordomissae.html
Thanks in advance,
Daniel Hoehr
Johannes Patruus
"Daniel Hoehr" <dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:bp5ikp$1k6f2d$1...@ID-82123.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Hi!
>
> Does anybody have good information/examples/quotes/etc as to how
> classical Latin (sort of 1st century AD) varies from "Church Latin".
> I'm particularly interested in the main differences (semantically,
> idiomatically, syntactically, stylistically, etc) between the Latin
> used by Roman writers and the Latin in the Ordo Missae of 1570:
Dag Norberg provides an historical account:
http://www.orbilat.com/Latin/Medieval_Latin/Dag_Norberg/index.html
Johannes
Daniel Hoehr
Thanks! I'll read that with interest.
Daniel
Mark Johnson
>> Dag Norberg provides an historical account:
>> http://www.orbilat.com/Latin/Medieval_Latin/Dag_Norberg/index.html
>Thanks! I'll read that with interest.
Workin up another good debunk, are you, DH?
You know I'll be here to point it out, no matter what . . . . . um,
nonsense, you decide to release.
You can count on me, DH.
Peace.
---------------------------------------
One mark of a deteriorating society is when its people cannot
discern truth from lies. Another is when they don't even bother
to try and will believe whatever their itching ears want to hear.
[Cal Thomas, 4 SEP 2000]
Paul Duca
Mark Johnson wrote:
> Daniel Hoehr <dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>
> >> Dag Norberg provides an historical account:
> >> http://www.orbilat.com/Latin/Medieval_Latin/Dag_Norberg/index.html
>
> >Thanks! I'll read that with interest.
More interest than the Latin God has in you or me....OR Mark.
Paul
Daniel Hoehr
> Daniel Hoehr <dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>Dag Norberg provides an historical account:
>>> http://www.orbilat.com/Latin/Medieval_Latin/Dag_Norberg/index.html
>
>
>>Thanks! I'll read that with interest.
>
>
> Workin up another good debunk, are you, DH?
>
> You know I'll be here to point it out, no matter what . . . . . um,
> nonsense, you decide to release.
>
> You can count on me, DH.
>
>
> Peace.
Any contributions on the topic, Markie?
You never dealt with this one here:
Manifestum est autem quod ille qui inhaeret doctrinae Ecclesiae
tanquam infallibili regulae, omnibus assentit quae Ecclesia docet.
Alioquin, si de his quae Ecclesia docet quae vult tenet et quae vult
non tenet, non iam inhaeret Ecclesiae doctrinae sicut infallibili
regulae, sed propriae voluntati. Et sic manifestum est quod haereticus
qui pertinaciter discredit unum articulum non est paratus sequi in
omnibus doctrinam Ecclesiae (si enim non pertinaciter, iam non est
haereticus, sed solum errans). Unde manifestum est quod talis
haereticus circa unum articulum fidem non habet de aliis articulis,
sed opinionem quandam secundum propriam voluntatem.
Read any good facing pages for context, lately?
DH
--
"I'm saying Ozzy is the exception, here, that's all." -
Mark Johnson
Mark Johnson
>Mark Johnson wrote:
>> Daniel Hoehr <dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>>Dag Norberg provides an historical account:
>>>> http://www.orbilat.com/Latin/Medieval_Latin/Dag_Norberg/index.html
>>>Thanks! I'll read that with interest.
>> Workin up another good debunk, are you, DH?
>> You know I'll be here to point it out, no matter what . . . . . um,
>> nonsense, you decide to release.
>You never dealt with this one here:
. . .
>Read any good facing pages for context, lately?
That's Catholicism, DH. You should read something about it:
http://www.geocities.com/ymjcath/MassNote.htm
Now I know you SAY you've read this. You CLAIM to have read this. But
you don't really seem to have done more than skimmed it, or
selectively read portions and not others. Fair to say?
Daniel Hoehr
Mark Johnson schrieb:
>
> Daniel Hoehr <dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>
> >Mark Johnson wrote:
> >> Daniel Hoehr <dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>Dag Norberg provides an historical account:
> >>>> http://www.orbilat.com/Latin/Medieval_Latin/Dag_Norberg/index.html
>
> >>>Thanks! I'll read that with interest.
>
> >> Workin up another good debunk, are you, DH?
>
> >> You know I'll be here to point it out, no matter what . . . . . um,
> >> nonsense, you decide to release.
>
> >You never dealt with this one here:
>
> . . .
>
> >Read any good facing pages for context, lately?
>
> That's Catholicism, DH. You should read something about it:
Manifestum est autem quod ille qui inhaeret doctrinae Ecclesiae
tanquam infallibili regulae, omnibus assentit quae Ecclesia docet.
Alioquin, si de his quae Ecclesia docet quae vult tenet et quae vult
non tenet, non iam inhaeret Ecclesiae doctrinae sicut infallibili
regulae, sed propriae voluntati. Et sic manifestum est quod haereticus
qui pertinaciter discredit unum articulum non est paratus sequi in
omnibus doctrinam Ecclesiae (si enim non pertinaciter, iam non est
haereticus, sed solum errans). Unde manifestum est quod talis
haereticus circa unum articulum fidem non habet de aliis articulis,
sed opinionem quandam secundum propriam voluntatem.
DH
SumBuny
"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:oiudrvsr1678h5am3...@4ax.com...
> Daniel Hoehr <dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>
> >> Dag Norberg provides an historical account:
> >> http://www.orbilat.com/Latin/Medieval_Latin/Dag_Norberg/index.html
>
> >Thanks! I'll read that with interest.
>
> Workin up another good debunk, are you, DH?
>
> You know I'll be here to point it out, no matter what . . . . . um,
> nonsense, you decide to release.
>
> You can count on me, DH.
>
What--you could not answer his original question concerning Latin?
Buny
Mark Johnson
I killfiled him, 'sum', for rewriting something I had posted and
trying to pass it off as something I wrote.
Say, for example, someone wrote: The toothbrush has a built-in
electronic feedback system that automatically adjusts its speed to
maintain peak performance. Our expertise in integrated product
development helped propel the toothbrush from the idea stage to store
shelves in just 12 months. . .
And he quoted it back as: The toothbrush has a built-in store shelves
Well, someone might think it funny. But it's just not the same thing.
Someone with your 'comprehension' might be able to see that, 'sum'.
SumBuny
> "SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> >news:oiudrvsr1678h5am3...@4ax.com...
> >> Daniel Hoehr <dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> Dag Norberg provides an historical account:
> >> >> http://www.orbilat.com/Latin/Medieval_Latin/Dag_Norberg/index.html
>
> >> >Thanks! I'll read that with interest.
>
> >> Workin up another good debunk, are you, DH?
>
> >> You know I'll be here to point it out, no matter what . . . . . um,
> >> nonsense, you decide to release.
>
> >> You can count on me, DH.
>
> >What--you could not answer his original question concerning Latin?
>
> I killfiled him, 'sum', for rewriting something I had posted and
> trying to pass it off as something I wrote.
>
> Say, for example, someone wrote: The toothbrush has a built-in
> electronic feedback system that automatically adjusts its speed to
> maintain peak performance. Our expertise in integrated product
> development helped propel the toothbrush from the idea stage to store
> shelves in just 12 months. . .
>
> And he quoted it back as: The toothbrush has a built-in store shelves
>
> Well, someone might think it funny. But it's just not the same thing.
> Someone with your 'comprehension' might be able to see that, 'sum'.
Since you have done the same to me innumerable times, I find it amazing that
you are so upset about that!
Buny
Tony Miller
This looks like Mark is a wide screen (IMax) projector with surround
sound. The latest and greatest in projection.
> Buny
-Tony
Mark Johnson
>Since you have done the same to me innumerable times
I never have. But lie all you want. I can't stop you. It is what you
do.
Mark Johnson
Not me, you liar. Not me. I've never done that. But DH has done this
on more than one occasion. In fact, I think this is the third time I
had to killfile him, for EXACTLY the same reason - of rewriting
something I wrote and trying to pass it off as mine. I've never done
that, and particularly for the reasons I've repeatedly explained,
which someone like you wouldn't understand. You don't appreciate
Usenet, and would prefer to just dump all over it, both you and 'sum',
and assorted trolls crawling all over the ngs. Your sort is probably
in the majority at least on the political and religious ngs. You have
the lib media and the various lib institutions. And you don't like the
idea that people who don't agree with your 'groupthink' can even post
to something that Usenet, that's read around the world.
Gnash your teeth all you like. But you lose.
bob
> From: Mark Johnson <1023...@compuserve.com>
> Reply-To: 1023...@compuserve.com
> Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.language.latin
> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:11:36 -0800
> Subject: Re: With interest (wasRe: Question: Classical Latin v. Church Latin)
>
> Not me, you liar. Not me. I've never done that. But DH has done this
> on more than one occasion. In fact, I think this is the third time I
> had to killfile him, for EXACTLY the same reason - of rewriting
> something I wrote and trying to pass it off as mine. I've never done
> that, and particularly for the reasons I've repeatedly explained,
> which someone like you wouldn't understand. You don't appreciate
> Usenet, and would prefer to just dump all over it, both you and 'sum',
> and assorted trolls crawling all over the ngs. Your sort is probably
> in the majority at least on the political and religious ngs. You have
> the lib media and the various lib institutions. And you don't like the
> idea that people who don't agree with your 'groupthink' can even post
> to something that Usenet, that's read around the world.
>
> Gnash your teeth all you like. But you lose.
>
>
> Peace.
Peace? Oxymoron?
peccante nil est taetrius,
nil tam leprosum aut putidum;
cruda est cicatrix criminum,
oletque ut antrum Tartari.
Bob
maf 1029
SumBuny
"Tony Miller" <to...@cigardiary.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.11.18....@cigardiary.com...
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:21:36 -0600, SumBuny wrote:
>
> >
> > "Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> > news:81eirv4689n3r3lf4...@4ax.com...
> >> electronic feedback system that automatically adjusts its speed to
> >> maintain peak performance. Our expertise in integrated product
> >> development helped propel the toothbrush from the idea stage to store
> >> shelves in just 12 months. . .
> >>
> >> And he quoted it back as: The toothbrush has a built-in store shelves
> >>
> >> Well, someone might think it funny. But it's just not the same thing.
> >> Someone with your 'comprehension' might be able to see that, 'sum'.
> >
> >
> > Since you have done the same to me innumerable times, I find it amazing
that
> > you are so upset about that!
>
> This looks like Mark is a wide screen (IMax) projector with surround
> sound. The latest and greatest in projection.
Nah...I think it is closer to the all-encompassing type you find in
planetariums (or is that "planetaria"?)
Buny
SumBuny
> "Tony Miller" <to...@cigardiary.com> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:21:36 -0600, SumBuny wrote:
> >> "Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> >> news:81eirv4689n3r3lf4...@4ax.com...
> >>> "SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>> >"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> >>> >news:oiudrvsr1678h5am3...@4ax.com...
> >>> >> Daniel Hoehr <dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>
> >> Since you have done the same to me innumerable times, I find it amazing
that
> >> you are so upset about that!
>
> >This looks like Mark is a wide screen (IMax) projector with surround
> >sound. The latest and greatest in projection.
>
> Not me, you liar. Not me. I've never done that. But DH has done this
> on more than one occasion. In fact, I think this is the third time I
> had to killfile him, for EXACTLY the same reason - of rewriting
> something I wrote and trying to pass it off as mine. I've never done
> that,
How do you explain:
"Alberich" <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:3jnkrvg090hnlhs5h...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:00:51 -0800, Mark Johnson
> <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
> >Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:07:03 -0800, Mark Johnson
> >><1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
> >>>Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>>Could you give me a simple statement of Catholicism? Here:
> >>>>Catholicism is: _________________________________________.
> >
> >>>Easy. Catholicism is necessary for the salvation of your soul.
> >
> >>I thought Jesus's crucifixion and rising from the dead was necessary.
> >>Does that mean Jesus's Crucifixion exactly equals Catholicism? If
> >>that's so, why so much belly-aching about the Mass?
> >
> >By 'belly-aching' you must mean a sort of unreasonable and petty
> >complaint. But you need to understand the issue:
> >
> >http://www.geocities.com/ymjcath/MassNote.htm
> >
> >Just read it. All you have to do. This matters to Catholics. And this
> >is, after all, posted exclusively to just one Catholic ng.
>
> Odd how you avoid the question. Let me reprint it for you:
>
> I thought Jesus's crucifixion and rising from the dead was necessary.
> Does that mean Jesus's Crucifixion exactly equals Catholicism? If
> that's so, why so much belly-aching about the Mass?
Seems that you have ignored others posted words in the same manner....to
where others had to reprint them...
Buny
Daniel Hoehr
> > From: Mark Johnson <1023...@compuserve.com>
> > Reply-To: 1023...@compuserve.com
> > Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.language.latin
> > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:11:36 -0800
> > Subject: Re: With interest (wasRe: Question: Classical Latin v. Church
Latin)
> > Peace.
> Peace? Oxymoron?
Cogitat pacem maledictum esse. (AcI???)
DH
--
Indue me Domine novum hominem,
qui secundum Deum creatus est,
in justitia et sanctitate veritabis.
Daniel Hoehr
<DH digs out facing pages . . . here>
Okay, it's planetaria. The plural suffix of neuter nouns (o-declension)
in the nominative and accusative is -a.
> Buny
DH
--
" That's how people learn languages, by reading translations, by having
other languages translated for them."
Mark "Facing Pages" Johnson on a.r.c.r-c on 26th May 2002
Mark Johnson
>How do you explain:
>"Alberich" <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>news:3jnkrvg090hnlhs5h...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:00:51 -0800, Mark Johnson
>> <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>> >Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>> >>On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:07:03 -0800, Mark Johnson
>> >><1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>> >>>Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>> >>>>Could you give me a simple statement of Catholicism? Here:
>> >>>>Catholicism is: _________________________________________.
>> >>>Easy. Catholicism is necessary for the salvation of your soul.
>> >>I thought Jesus's crucifixion and rising from the dead was necessary.
>> >>Does that mean Jesus's Crucifixion exactly equals Catholicism? If
>> >>that's so, why so much belly-aching about the Mass?
>> >By 'belly-aching' you must mean a sort of unreasonable and petty
>> >complaint. But you need to understand the issue:
>> >http://www.geocities.com/ymjcath/MassNote.htm
>> >Just read it. All you have to do. This matters to Catholics. And this
>> >is, after all, posted exclusively to just one Catholic ng.
>Seems that you have ignored others posted words in the same manner.
'Sum' - 'sum-sum'. Let me remind you of what I wrote, just previously:
Say, for example, someone wrote: The toothbrush has a built-in
electronic feedback system that automatically adjusts its speed to
maintain peak performance. Our expertise in integrated product
development helped propel the toothbrush from the idea stage to store
shelves in just 12 months. . .
And he quoted it back as: The toothbrush has a built-in store shelves
Well, someone might think it funny. But it's just not the same thing.
Someone with your 'comprehension' might be able to see that, 'sum'.
Peace.
Mark Johnson
>Nah...I think it is closer to the all-encompassing type you find in
>planetariums (or is that "planetaria"?)
Only in your own mind have I ever done what DH has now routinely done
to me:
Say, for example, someone wrote: The toothbrush has a built-in
electronic feedback system that automatically adjusts its speed to
maintain peak performance. Our expertise in integrated product
development helped propel the toothbrush from the idea stage to store
shelves in just 12 months. . .
And he quoted it back as: The toothbrush has a built-in store shelves
Well, someone might think it funny. But it's just not the same thing.
Someone with your 'comprehension' might be able to see that, 'sum'.
Peace.
SumBuny
> "SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >Nah...I think it is closer to the all-encompassing type you find in
> >planetariums (or is that "planetaria"?)
>
> Only in your own mind have I ever done what DH has now routinely done
> to me:
>
>
> Say, for example, someone wrote: The toothbrush has a built-in
> electronic feedback system that automatically adjusts its speed to
> maintain peak performance. Our expertise in integrated product
> development helped propel the toothbrush from the idea stage to store
> shelves in just 12 months. . .
>
> And he quoted it back as: The toothbrush has a built-in store shelves
>
>
> Well, someone might think it funny. But it's just not the same thing.
> Someone with your 'comprehension' might be able to see that, 'sum'.
>
Is this answering my question about what the plural form of the Latin
"Planetarium" is?
Buny
Paul Duca
Mark Johnson wrote:
> "SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >Nah...I think it is closer to the all-encompassing type you find in
> >planetariums (or is that "planetaria"?)
>
> Only in your own mind have I ever done what DH has now routinely done
> to me:
>
> Say, for example, someone wrote: The toothbrush has a built-in
> electronic feedback system that automatically adjusts its speed to
> maintain peak performance. Our expertise in integrated product
> development helped propel the toothbrush from the idea stage to store
> shelves in just 12 months. . .
>
> And he quoted it back as: The toothbrush has a built-in store shelves
>
> Well, someone might think it funny. But it's just not the same thing.
> Someone with your 'comprehension' might be able to see that, 'sum'.
>
\ But will it still generate sexual arousal when you jam it
up your butt, Mark?
Paul
Paul Duca
Mark Johnson wrote:
> "SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >Since you have done the same to me innumerable times
>
> I never have. But lie all you want. I can't stop you. It is what you
> do.
>
Hey, Mark LOVES it when his God and his political heroes do that
to him....
Paul
Tony Miller
<Snip>
>> I thought Jesus's crucifixion and rising from the dead was necessary.
>> Does that mean Jesus's Crucifixion exactly equals Catholicism? If
>> that's so, why so much belly-aching about the Mass?
>
> Seems that you have ignored others posted words in the same manner....to
> where others had to reprint them...
You don't get it... Usenet etiquette requires that you snip the parts you
aren't responding to. Since he responds to practically nothing, he's
allowed to snip almost everything.
> Buny
-Tony
SumBuny
<smack forehead> Now I get it...and that is why he complains when others
(who respond intelligently) do the same--it is a breach of ettiquette to
snip so much when one responds with more intellect...
Thanks Tony,
Buny
maf 1029
YO!!!! DH!
On your desk, on the left side, under that plastic cover thingie with
your exegesis paper in it, you will find the MARK JOHNSON FILES.
On page 7 of the TOP SECRET documents, you will find the "mindlessly
quoting" quote.
If you have a chance, could you post it?
maf 1029
wrote:
Doubtful, what with his head already there.
Alberich
wrote:
Amazing. I wonder it feels like to look at your appendix from the
inside for the first time. I wonder if he felt any brotherhood with
Kekule.
maf 1029
wrote:
Ask DH or Tony Miller for the "assnote" website addy.
Mark Johnson
>Amazing. I wonder it feels like to look at your appendix from the
>inside for the first time.
You should be working on your evolutionist nonsense, Al, instead of
waxing so ineloquently about nothing else, in addition.
Mark Johnson
>"Tony Miller" <to...@cigardiary.com> wrote in message
>news:92Bub.122533$ZC4....@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:08:41 -0600, SumBuny
><sumbunyTHIS_DOES...@cox.net> wrote:
><smack forehead> Now I get it...and that is why he complains when others
>(who respond intelligently) do the same
You don't know how, 'sum'. I could explain to you how Usenet works,
how the ngs work better for courtesy and honesty, even as people
disagree, and you'd cackle away not hearing a thing.
>it is a breach of ettiquette to
>snip so much when one responds with more intellect...
'Sum', if you could buy common sense, you'd never be able to unwrap
the package.
Daniel Hoehr
maf 1029 wrote:
> YO!!!! DH!
. . . here?
> On your desk, on the left side, under that plastic cover thingie with
> your exegesis paper in it, you will find the MARK JOHNSON FILES.
got 'em
> On page 7 of the TOP SECRET documents, you will find the "mindlessly
> quoting" quote.
> If you have a chance, could you post it?
Okay:
"Everybody trims out parts of a message that they aren't replying to.
I did that very thing, here. It's considered good UseNet practice not
to just reflexively quote an entire message every time, if it's not
relevant to your reply. As I explained to you, and have in various
messagrs, when you're only replying to a portion. You remove it.
Anything else?
Maybe:
"Yes, you are. Vermin, filth, scum, pus, pestilence, anti-Semitic,
Nazi-worshipping, ignorant, disturbed, mentally unwell, spiritually
bankrupt, inhuman, inhumane, rude, condescending, purposeless,
arrogant, pompous, bitchy, petty, vile, grotesque, ugly, moronic,
amoral, clueless, small, small-minded, morally bereft, blasphemous,
mawkish, lazy, arrogant, hateful, hated, reviled, disliked, unlovable,
pestilent, petulant, shallow, crude, sexually frustrated, vapid,
vacuous, jealous, pitiable, condemned, insignificant, shrewish,
disrespectful, stupid, moronic, empty-headed, xenophobic,
anencaphallic, clueless, void of conscience, in denial, out of
touch, lonely, pathetic, sociopathic, self-centered, egotistical,
self-serving, selfish, fecal, fetid, gamy, rotten, distended,
intellectually challenged, reading impaired, naive, crabby, grouchy,
unforgiving, semantically invalid, unoriginal, unthinking, unfeeling,
uncaring, socially inept, intellectually limited by choice, odious,
icky, malcontent, maladjusted, emotionally malnourished, envious,
affection starved, psychologically imbalanced, insipid, intolerant,
vindictive, theologically insolvent, atrocious, wicked, ill-tempered,
distemperate, pouty, childish, splenetic, crabby, cantankerous,
fecundal, crumdugeonly, sour, disgareeable, acrid, spiteful, peevish,
surly, churlish, and dyspeptic.
In short, you're a pimple on the ass of humanity whose time for
draining has come."
What a litany in praise of St Mark Johnson!
Gotta have a cigarette now!
DH
--
Peace... To MJ what "baduh, baduh, baduh,
THAT'S ALL FOLKS" is to Porky Pig. -- Tony Miller
maf 1029
<dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>maf 1029 wrote:
>
>> YO!!!! DH!
>
> . . . here?
Excellent.
>> On your desk, on the left side, under that plastic cover thingie with
>> your exegesis paper in it, you will find the MARK JOHNSON FILES.
>
>got 'em
Cool.
>> On page 7 of the TOP SECRET documents, you will find the "mindlessly
>> quoting" quote.
>> If you have a chance, could you post it?
>
>Okay:
>
>"Everybody trims out parts of a message that they aren't replying to.
>I did that very thing, here. It's considered good UseNet practice not
>to just reflexively quote an entire message every time, if it's not
>relevant to your reply. As I explained to you, and have in various
>messagrs, when you're only replying to a portion. You remove it.
Aphrodite bless you, my child!
>Anything else?
Cheesecake and a high 5?
Praise be!
Kudos to the author, as well!
>Gotta have a cigarette now!
I think I shall join you...... here (alas not...... there)
>DH
Daniel Hoehr
Edward Casey scripsit:
> Litem amabo in andronem auferte.
Peniteo litem in hoc foro habere.
> Ceterum censeo absque salute nullam esse
> ecclesiam.
Probum est te habere hanc opinionem, sed alii dissidunt.
Daniel
Alberich
<1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
>>Amazing. I wonder it feels like to look at your appendix from the
>>inside for the first time.
>
>You should be working on your evolutionist nonsense, Al, instead of
>waxing so ineloquently about nothing else, in addition.
And you, Mark, if you truly want to learn more about evolution, should
be reading a book (may I suggest Ernst Mayr for starters?) about it
rather than reading threads which don't touch on either it or RCC at
all.
Mark Johnson
>On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:37:01 -0800, Mark Johnson
><1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>>You should be working on your evolutionist nonsense, Al, instead of
>>waxing so ineloquently about nothing else, in addition.
>And you, Mark, if you truly want to learn more about evolution
You can stop right there. I do. And I've been asking - you - the
'expert'.
Now what happened to all that expertise? Did it desert you, Al? Don't
worry about nonsense, when you've got this evolutionism thing to deal
with.
Again:
The Theory of evolution is that evolution is caused by . . .
and I'm still waiting for you to complete the sentence. Say what you
mean, this week. And stand by it.
It's all I ask.
Alberich
<1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:37:01 -0800, Mark Johnson
>><1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>>Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
>>>You should be working on your evolutionist nonsense, Al, instead of
>>>waxing so ineloquently about nothing else, in addition.
>
>>And you, Mark, if you truly want to learn more about evolution
>
>You can stop right there. I do. And I've been asking - you - the
>'expert'.
>
>Now what happened to all that expertise? Did it desert you, Al? Don't
>worry about nonsense, when you've got this evolutionism thing to deal
>with.
>
>Again:
>
>The Theory of evolution is that evolution is caused by . . .
>
>and I'm still waiting for you to complete the sentence. Say what you
>mean, this week. And stand by it.
>
>It's all I ask.
Then look in the thread you've already responded to--don't pretend
it's not out there.
Alberich
Mark Johnson
>>Again:
Well, you can say what you mean in more than one, single message. I
always do. I always have to repeat myself. It's Usenet. If it's a lot,
maybe I'll suggest one consider groups.google, or give a URL. But
we're talking a single sentence, here, Al. Surely you can type THAT
in.
Robert A. Walker
>
> 'Sum', if you could buy common sense, you'd never be able to unwrap
> the package.
>
>
Don't project.
Alberich
<1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
Possibly, but why bother? I've done it time and again only to have
you ignore it completely or to snip out key bits of it (which, I
believe, you accused sum of not too long ago) whenever making a
quasi-reply. On the other hand, I could begin a thread arguing the
relative merits of tiramisu against cheesecake. I give the odds of an
honest reply from you concerning evolution to be the same in either
thread.
Alberich
Mark Johnson
>Don't project.
Not me, Robert A. I'm not the Democrat, here.
Alberich
<1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>rwa...@nycc.edu (Robert A. Walker) wrote:
>
>>Mark Johnson <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>>snip
>
>>> 'Sum', if you could buy common sense, you'd never be able to unwrap
>>> the package.
>
>>Don't project.
>
>Not me, Robert A. I'm not the Democrat, here.
No, he's not a Democrat, here, but he plays one in real life.
Alberich
Mark Johnson
>On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:46:35 -0800, Mark Johnson
><1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:20:06 -0800, Mark Johnson
>>><1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>>>Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>>>>>On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:37:01 -0800, Mark Johnson
>>>>><1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>Possibly, but why bother? I've done it time and again only to have
>you ignore it completely
Not me. I'm asking you to simply say what you believe. You, rather,
are ignoring me. Don't project.
You know what they say about that:
"[His] outstanding defense mechanism is one commonly called
PROJECTION. It is a technique by which the ego of an individual
defends itself against unpleasant impulses, tendencies or
characteristics by denying their existence in himself while he
attributes them to others." . . .
"He himself tells us in so many words that he skipped through this
material and only took out those parts which were useful to him. In
other words, he was not reading and listening in order to become
educated sufficiently to form a rational judgment of the problem. This
would have been a violation of his earlier inhibition on thinking. He
read only in order to find additional justification for his own inner
feelings and convictions and to rationalize his projections. He has
continued this technique up to the present time. He does a great deal
of reading on many diverse subjects but he never forms a rational
opinion in the light of the information but only pays attention to
those parts which convince him that he was right to begin with."
Call it a 'critical study' of a figure from history.
Mark Johnson
>>>Don't project.
Don't project. I'm not you. I'm not some nutty lib and card-carryin
Dem. And I'm sure not Robert A, who thinks the world came to an end
when Pres. Bush managed to keep Algore and company from stealing the
FL election.
Daniel Hoehr
Alberich wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:46:35 -0800, Mark Johnson
> <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>Well, you can say hat meat in mess. I
>>always do. I always have to eat myself. It's Use. If it's a lot,
>>maybe I'll use one oups glee a Butt king a single her. type HAT
>>in.
>
>
> Possibly, but why bother? I've done it time and again only to have
> you ignore it completely or to snip out key bits of it (which, I
> believe, you accused sum of not too long ago) whenever making a
> quasi-reply. On the other hand, I could begin a thread arguing the
> relative merits of tiramisu against cheesecake.
I'll go for the cheescake, if you don't mind . . . here.
> I give the odds of an
> honest reply from you concerning evolution to be the same in either
> thread.
>
> Alberich
DH
Daniel Hoehr
Alberich wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:46:35 -0800, Mark Johnson
> <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>Well, you can say hat meat in mess. I
>>always do. I always have to eat myself. It's Use. If it's a lot,
>>maybe I'll use one oups glee a Butt king a single her. type HAT
>>in.
>
>
> Possibly, but why bother? I've done it time and again only to have
> you ignore it completely or to snip out key bits of it (which, I
> believe, you accused sum of not too long ago) whenever making a
> quasi-reply. On the other hand, I could begin a thread arguing the
> relative merits of tiramisu against cheesecake.
I'll go for the cheescake, if you don't mind . . . here.
> I give the odds of an
> honest reply from you concerning evolution to be the same in either
> thread.
>
> Alberich
DH
maf 1029
<dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>Alberich wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:46:35 -0800, Mark Johnson
>> <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>>>Well, you can say hat meat in mess. I
>>>always do. I always have to eat myself. It's Use. If it's a lot,
>>>maybe I'll use one oups glee a Butt king a single her. type HAT
>>>in.
>>
>>
>> Possibly, but why bother? I've done it time and again only to have
>> you ignore it completely or to snip out key bits of it (which, I
>> believe, you accused sum of not too long ago) whenever making a
>> quasi-reply. On the other hand, I could begin a thread arguing the
>> relative merits of tiramisu against cheesecake.
>
>I'll go for the cheescake, if you don't mind . . . here.
I'm with you, but I would like to know what tiramisu is.
Daniel Hoehr
maf 1029 wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:51:48 +0100, Daniel Hoehr
> <dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Alberich wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:46:35 -0800, Mark Johnson
>>><1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>Well, you can say hat meat in mess. I
>>>>always do. I always have to eat myself. It's Use. If it's a lot,
>>>>maybe I'll use one oups glee a Butt king a single her. type HAT
>>>>in.
>>>
>>>
>>>Possibly, but why bother? I've done it time and again only to have
>>>you ignore it completely or to snip out key bits of it (which, I
>>>believe, you accused sum of not too long ago) whenever making a
>>>quasi-reply. On the other hand, I could begin a thread arguing the
>>>relative merits of tiramisu against cheesecake.
>>
>>I'll go for the cheescake, if you don't mind . . . here.
>
>
> I'm with you, but I would like to know what tiramisu is.
A pudding consisting of mascapone cheese, buiscuit, coffee and
chocolate. Italian. Yum. Makes a nice post-cheescake dessert.
maf 1029
<dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>maf 1029 wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:51:48 +0100, Daniel Hoehr
>> <dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Alberich wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:46:35 -0800, Mark Johnson
>>>><1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Well, you can say hat meat in mess. I
>>>>>always do. I always have to eat myself. It's Use. If it's a lot,
>>>>>maybe I'll use one oups glee a Butt king a single her. type HAT
>>>>>in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Possibly, but why bother? I've done it time and again only to have
>>>>you ignore it completely or to snip out key bits of it (which, I
>>>>believe, you accused sum of not too long ago) whenever making a
>>>>quasi-reply. On the other hand, I could begin a thread arguing the
>>>>relative merits of tiramisu against cheesecake.
>>>
>>>I'll go for the cheescake, if you don't mind . . . here.
>>
>>
>> I'm with you, but I would like to know what tiramisu is.
>
>A pudding consisting of mascapone cheese, buiscuit, coffee and
>chocolate. Italian. Yum. Makes a nice post-cheescake dessert.
Coffee and chocolate......... yum.
Alberich
<dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>maf 1029 wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:51:48 +0100, Daniel Hoehr
>> <dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Alberich wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:46:35 -0800, Mark Johnson
>>>><1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Well, you can say hat meat in mess. I
>>>>>always do. I always have to eat myself. It's Use. If it's a lot,
>>>>>maybe I'll use one oups glee a Butt king a single her. type HAT
>>>>>in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Possibly, but why bother? I've done it time and again only to have
>>>>you ignore it completely or to snip out key bits of it (which, I
>>>>believe, you accused sum of not too long ago) whenever making a
>>>>quasi-reply. On the other hand, I could begin a thread arguing the
>>>>relative merits of tiramisu against cheesecake.
>>>
>>>I'll go for the cheescake, if you don't mind . . . here.
>>
>>
>> I'm with you, but I would like to know what tiramisu is.
>
>A pudding consisting of mascapone cheese, buiscuit, coffee and
>chocolate. Italian. Yum. Makes a nice post-cheescake dessert.
I like the way you think!
Elizabeth Bonello
> Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:37:01 -0800, Mark Johnson
> ><1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
> >>Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
> >>You should be working on your evolutionist nonsense, Al, instead of
> >>waxing so ineloquently about nothing else, in addition.
>
> >And you, Mark, if you truly want to learn more about evolution
>
> You can stop right there. I do. And I've been asking - you - the
> 'expert'.
>
> Now what happened to all that expertise? Did it desert you, Al? Don't
> worry about nonsense, when you've got this evolutionism thing to deal
> with.
How do you explain the protective adaptations that are very clear and happen
in a very short time period? Bacteria very rapidly (sometimes within very
few weeks) change to become resistant to antibiotics, for example. Over a
very long period of time, it is very probable to change so much as to be
unrecognizable relative to the original bacterium.
--
LittleBit
"Education is the progressive discovery of our own ignorance"
--Will Durant
Elizabeth Bonello
"Alberich" <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:thvnrvoebuead5vod...@4ax.com...
MJ has to pretend that he doesn't see things that shake his belief system.
It's very sad.
--
LittleBit
Here is true immorality: ignorance and stupidity; the devil is nothing but
this. His name is Legion.
Gustave Flaubert
Elizabeth Bonello
> Well, you can say what you mean in more than one, single message. I
> always do. I always have to repeat myself. It's Usenet. If it's a lot,
> maybe I'll suggest one consider groups.google, or give a URL. But
> we're talking a single sentence, here, Al. Surely you can type THAT
> in.
You merely cut-and-paste the same material, no matter to what you are
responding.
--
LittleBit
"The only way to comprehend what mathematicians mean by Infinity is to
contemplate the extent of human stupidity." -- Voltaire
Elizabeth Bonello
"Alberich" <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> Possibly, but why bother? I've done it time and again only to have
> you ignore it completely or to snip out key bits of it (which, I
> believe, you accused sum of not too long ago) whenever making a
> quasi-reply. On the other hand, I could begin a thread arguing the
> relative merits of tiramisu against cheesecake. I give the odds of an
> honest reply from you concerning evolution to be the same in either
> thread.
>
> Alberich
Tiramisu over cheesecake; however, cheesecake runs a very close second.
--
LittleBit
Perhaps they are not stars in the sky, but rather openings where our loved
ones shine down to let us know they are happy.
Eskimo Legend
Elizabeth Bonello
> Not me. I'm asking you to simply say what you believe. You, rather,
> are ignoring me. Don't project.
You are the one who ignores pertinent questions and repeats the same screed
over and over, no matter what question you were asked.
--
LittleBit
The difference between intelligence and stupidity is that intelligence
has its limits.
Paul Duca
Mark Johnson wrote:
> Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:04:18 -0800, Mark Johnson
> ><1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
> >>rwa...@nycc.edu (Robert A. Walker) wrote:
> >>>Mark Johnson <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> >>>snip
>
> >>>> 'Sum', if you could buy common sense, you'd never be able to unwrap
> >>>> the package.
>
> >>>Don't project.
>
> >>Not me, Robert A. I'm not the Democrat, here.
>
> >No, he's not a Democrat, here, but he plays one in real life.
> >Alberich
>
> Don't project. I'm not you. I'm not some nutty lib and card-carryin
> Dem.
And he's not some wealthy powerful important GOP either...Mark is
impatiently waiting for Gubnor Ah-nold to boot out the illegals, so he can
get a high-paying janitorial job.
Paul
Paul Duca
Mark Johnson wrote:
If there's anything Mark knows, it's "critical'...he doesn't
know how to be anything else.
Paul
Elizabeth Bonello
"maf 1029" <m...@86thepsam.nl> wrote in message
news:ljiprv4598dvr396l...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:51:48 +0100, Daniel Hoehr
> <dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
> >I'll go for the cheescake, if you don't mind . . . here.
>
> I'm with you, but I would like to know what tiramisu is.
Oh, it is a very delicious Italian dessert. It is composed of one layer of
ladyfingers soaked in sweetened espresso, then a thick layer of a marscapone
cheese custard, topped by a sifting of cocoa and shaved chocolate. Two
words for you: yum mee.
Really, it *is* a kind of cheesecake--marscapone-style.
--
LittleBit
God runs electromagnetics by wave theory on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday,
but remember that the Devil runs electromagnetics by quantum theory on
Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday.
William Bragg
Elizabeth Bonello
> Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
> >No, he's not a Democrat, here, but he plays one in real life.
> >Alberich
>
> Don't project. I'm not you. I'm not some nutty lib and card-carryin
> Dem. And I'm sure not Robert A, who thinks the world came to an end
> when Pres. Bush managed to keep Algore and company from stealing the
> FL election.
The world came to an end then? Not really. Is the vote fiasco an
embarrassment to Floridians? According to many of my friends (staunch
Republicans all), yes.
--
LittleBit
"Sometimes I think war is God's way of teaching us geography."
Paul Rodriguez
maf 1029
<ebonell...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>"maf 1029" <m...@86thepsam.nl> wrote in message
>news:ljiprv4598dvr396l...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:51:48 +0100, Daniel Hoehr
>> <dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>> >I'll go for the cheescake, if you don't mind . . . here.
>>
>> I'm with you, but I would like to know what tiramisu is.
>
>Oh, it is a very delicious Italian dessert. It is composed of one layer of
>ladyfingers soaked in sweetened espresso, then a thick layer of a marscapone
>cheese custard, topped by a sifting of cocoa and shaved chocolate. Two
>words for you: yum mee.
>
>Really, it *is* a kind of cheesecake--marscapone-style.
Cool. I'm drooling already.
What's marscapone?
Mark Johnson
>"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>news:h68prvo1ttv3lim9b...@4ax.com...
>> Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>> >No, he's not a Democrat, here, but he plays one in real life.
>> >Alberich
>> Don't project. I'm not you. I'm not some nutty lib and card-carryin
>> Dem. And I'm sure not Robert A, who thinks the world came to an end
>> when Pres. Bush managed to keep Algore and company from stealing the
>> FL election.
>The world came to an end then?
Apparently it did for you guys. You should have seen the bitching. One
was talking about the GOP setting up camps.
>Is the vote fiasco an embarrassment to Floridians?
>According to many of my friends (staunch Republicans all), yes.
But then not because Bush won, but because at various points it looked
as if certain FL officials wanted to stretch the law to let Algore try
to steal the election. I'm sure that's what they meant.
Mark Johnson
>"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>news:f48prv0lp7i6dj9bu...@4ax.com...
>> Not me. I'm asking you to simply say what you believe. You, rather,
>> are ignoring me. Don't project.
>You are the one who ignores pertinent questions and repeats the same screed
You mean people, just like you, force me to repeat what I wrote,
previously? You constantly repeating yourself. You libs a stuck in an
endless loop.
If you don't like - don't do it. Try not to constantly rehash, and
constantly project. Fair to say, isn't it?
Mark Johnson
>"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>news:vj3orv0spgehtfbbe...@4ax.com...
>> Well, you can say what you mean in more than one, single message. I
>> always do. I always have to repeat myself. It's Usenet. If it's a lot,
>> maybe I'll suggest one consider groups.google, or give a URL. But
>> we're talking a single sentence, here, Al. Surely you can type THAT
>> in.
>You merely cut-and-paste the same material
You don't get it, Liz. I just read what you write. That you are
constantly repeating yourself, that you libs have one or two ideas,
and that's it, and repeat the same thing - CONSTANTLY - isn't my
fault. I just have to keep reminding you of what was said, in the hope
that you might actually learn something. So - yeah - cut n paste. But
it's cut n paste because you guys . . make it so.
Mark Johnson
>"Alberich" <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>news:thvnrvoebuead5vod...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:20:06 -0800, Mark Johnson
>> <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>> >Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>> >>On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:37:01 -0800, Mark Johnson
>> >><1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>> >>>Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>> >The Theory of evolution is that evolution is caused by . . .
>> >and I'm still waiting for you to complete the sentence. Say what you
>> >mean, this week. And stand by it.
>> >It's all I ask.
>> Then look in the thread you've already responded to--don't pretend
>> it's not out there.
>MJ has to pretend that he doesn't see things that shake his belief system.
Not me, Liz. I'm just asking the question, here. And even Al is having
trouble. When questions are put to him, and clarifications requested,
suddenly he changes the subject, or the thread dies out.
I'm just lookin for an answer to the question, Liz. But - heck - maybe
you, too, believe in evolutionism. And maybe you can help me out,
here.
Do a guy a favor, Liz? Would you help me Liz's The Theory of?
Mark Johnson
>"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>news:5lunrv862mi2h13ku...@4ax.com...
>> Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>> >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:37:01 -0800, Mark Johnson
>> ><1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>> >>Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>> >>You should be working on your evolutionist nonsense, Al, instead of
>> >>waxing so ineloquently about nothing else, in addition.
>> >And you, Mark, if you truly want to learn more about evolution
>> You can stop right there. I do. And I've been asking - you - the
>> 'expert'.
>> Now what happened to all that expertise? Did it desert you, Al? Don't
>> worry about nonsense, when you've got this evolutionism thing to deal
>> with.
>How do you explain the protective adaptations that are very clear and happen
>in a very short time period?
By which I suppose you're trying to say, in some sense, or other:
>Bacteria very rapidly (sometimes within very
>few weeks) change to become resistant to antibiotics, for example.
Alright.
>Over a
>very long period of time, it is very probable to change so much as to be
>unrecognizable relative to the original bacterium.
But see, that's where you just aren't thinking. You presume that you
can generalize, without end, and that a difference in kind remains
just that, or even doesn't, but that at least the means are unaffected
by complexity. But we all know, in any endeavor, that increasing
complexity can require complete reengineering of method. You just
can't generalize to a large scale, and expect everything to work as it
did on the small. It's just one example.
That's why, Liz, you need to have a clear notion of just what IS . .
the 'fact of', and The Theory of, before you start to lecture people
about the 'certainty of'.
Can you see that, Liz?
Does that make sense?
Let me know.
Daniel Hoehr
maf 1029 schrieb:
>
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:35:50 GMT, Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:11:23 GMT, maf 1029 <maf...@ihatespam.nl>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:43:06 GMT, Paul Duca <toms...@comcast.net>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Mark Johnson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >Nah...I think it is closer to the all-encompassing type you find in
> >>>> >planetariums (or is that "planetaria"?)
> >>>>
> >>>> Only in your own mind have I ever done what DH has now routinely done
> >>>> to me:
> >>>>
> >>>> Say, for example, someone wrote: The toothbrush has a built-in
> >>>> electronic feedback system that automatically adjusts its speed to
> >>>> maintain peak performance. Our expertise in integrated product
> >>>> development helped propel the toothbrush from the idea stage to store
> >>>> shelves in just 12 months. . .
> >>>>
> >>>> And he quoted it back as: The toothbrush has a built-in store shelves
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, someone might think it funny. But it's just not the same thing.
> >>>> Someone with your 'comprehension' might be able to see that, 'sum'.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>\ But will it still generate sexual arousal when you jam it
> >>>up your butt, Mark?
> >>
> >>Doubtful, what with his head already there.
> >
> >Amazing. I wonder it feels like to look at your appendix from the
> >inside for the first time. I wonder if he felt any brotherhood with
> >Kekule.
>
> Ask DH or Tony Miller for the "assnote" website addy.
http://geocities.com/yymjcath/AssNote.html
Even without asking . . . here.
DH
Daniel Hoehr
Alberich schrieb:
I like the pudding you propose . . . here in these ngs.
Daniel Hoehr
maf 1029 schrieb:
But not projecting, I hope.
> What's marscapone?
That's some sort of Italian cheese, thick, fatty and just great. they
have it in the Edeka store downstairs . . . here.
DH
Thomas Cranmer
> Butt hat's here you just are thinking. You sum hat you
> can era wit end, and hat a fence in kid main
> just hat, or even do, butt hat at east he an affected
> by complex. But now, in any end, hat easing
> come can err ring of me. You just
> ant general to a large pee very tit
> did on the small. It's just one ex.
>
> hat's heed to have a clear tit hat IS . .
> the act of, and he Theo of, for tart to let pee
> but tiny of hat
>
> Does hat make sense?
>
> Let me Pee.
Hugs and greetings from the Schismatic Hootenanny (c)
Thomas Cranmer
maf 1029
<dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>maf 1029 schrieb:
>>
>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:01:56 GMT, "Elizabeth Bonello"
>> <ebonell...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"maf 1029" <m...@86thepsam.nl> wrote in message
>> >news:ljiprv4598dvr396l...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:51:48 +0100, Daniel Hoehr
>> >> <dho...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>> >> >I'll go for the cheescake, if you don't mind . . . here.
>> >>
>> >> I'm with you, but I would like to know what tiramisu is.
>> >
>> >Oh, it is a very delicious Italian dessert. It is composed of one layer of
>> >ladyfingers soaked in sweetened espresso, then a thick layer of a marscapone
>> >cheese custard, topped by a sifting of cocoa and shaved chocolate. Two
>> >words for you: yum mee.
>> >
>> >Really, it *is* a kind of cheesecake--marscapone-style.
>>
>> Cool. I'm drooling already.
>
>But not projecting, I hope.
projecting? Moi?
>> What's marscapone?
>
>That's some sort of Italian cheese, thick, fatty and just great. they
>have it in the Edeka store downstairs . . . here.
Well, I'll just dash on over and pick some up.
maf 1029
Nothing to add, except
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
<gasp for air>
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW, did Mr. Cranmer pay for his ticket to the Schismatic Hootenanny?
Dietrich von Hildebrand
<cra...@compuserve.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Cranmer:
Although your super-expertise in translating Joohnsonese into
Johnsonspeak is formidible and legendary, I would respectfully propose
an alternate translation, which clears up some of the ambiguity,
especially in the your rendering of "he Theo of, for tart to let pee."
IMO, that phrase is crucial to the full comprehension... here.
>Bee, hat's here thinking. You pee hat you
>can gene al, wit end, and hat a fence in kin man
>just hat, or even does, but hat at last the men are fec ted
>by city. But we all now, in any dear, hat casing
>city can rire pee ree gee ring of tod. You just
>can gene al to age sale, and pec very thing ork as it
>did on the mall. It's just ample.
>hat whiz, ned have ear noon of just hat IS . .
>the 'act of', and he he of, bore tart lec pee
>out the 'tity of'.
>you see hat, Liz?
>Does hat make see?
>Let me Pee.
Respectfully submitted,
Dietrich von Hildebrand
Daniel Hoehr
******SPLOOOOOOOSH******
High 5, mate!
Marcel Lefebvre
Dear Herr von Hildebrand,
Thank you for submitting this translation. It is, however, tainted
with modernism and unholy 'reform'. What neither you not Mr Cranmer
seem to understand is that the Mass as we knew it is dead. _I_ didn't
say that, Mr Mark Johnson did. On that background, I would propose the
following translation:
tea's here you just rent. You poo tender in main hat, or even beans
are affected by cox. But al now, in any neat hat ceasing
cox can require peter engineering of me. You just are sale, and pee
very thing tit did on the small. It's just one ample hat, Liz, you
need to have a clear hat IS . . tact, and he for you tart to pee
at he aint Liz?
Does that make Pee.
Gaudeamus igitur!
M. Lefebvre
(and why the heck am I not up for beatificattion . . . here?)
Padre Pio
Dear Monsieur Lefebvre:
Your genius and writing ability notwithstanding, I must take offense
at your use of the phrase "unholy reform." If the Holy Father says it,
then we do it.
And, we must also, in our work as super-experts.... here, take into
account Mr. Johnson's compilation of selected verses from Catholic
theology. His bravery in rescuing himself and Holy Catholicism after
his church was hijacked by terrorists is quite remarkable. In light of
this, I would submit the following translation, given from a place of
love and charity, wherefrom Mr. Johnson always posts:
>te he yo sent. You poo tee in man hat, or vans
>are ted cox. But ow, in any net hat sing
>cox can ree pee gee ring of me. You just are ale, and pee
>ring tit did on the mall. It's so ample hat, Liz, you
>need to have a ear hat IS . . tact, and he for you tart to pee
>he tiz?
>Does hat make see me Pee.
Oh, and you haven't been beatified because I got there first, you
'Catholic' you.
In the Holy Names of Jesus and MJ,
Padre Pio
SumBuny
"Alberich" <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> Possibly, but why bother? I've done it time and again only to have
> you ignore it completely or to snip out key bits of it (which, I
> believe, you accused sum of not too long ago) whenever making a
> quasi-reply. On the other hand, I could begin a thread arguing the
> honest reply from you concerning evolution to be the same in either
> thread.
Depends on what liquer the tiramisu is soaked in...I am partial to rum or
brandy myself...
Buny
SumBuny
> Coffee and chocolate......... yum.
*Anything* and chocolate!
Buny
SumBuny
> "Elizabeth Bonello" <ebonell...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> >news:vj3orv0spgehtfbbe...@4ax.com...
> >> Well, you can say what you mean in more than one, single message. I
> >> always do. I always have to repeat myself. It's Usenet. If it's a lot,
> >> maybe I'll suggest one consider groups.google, or give a URL. But
> >> we're talking a single sentence, here, Al. Surely you can type THAT
> >> in.
>
> >You merely cut-and-paste the same material
>
> You don't get it, Liz. I just read what you write. That you are
> constantly repeating yourself, that you libs have one or two ideas,
> and that's it, and repeat the same thing - CONSTANTLY - isn't my
> fault. I just have to keep reminding you of what was said, in the hope
> that you might actually learn something. So - yeah - cut n paste. But
> it's cut n paste because you guys . . make it so.
MJ just has an aversion to including cites/urls....it might actually prove
that he is wrong....
Buny
Alberich
Brandy. I didn't know others were even *allowed*.
Mark Johnson
>"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>news:tccrrvss80pqov067...@4ax.com...
>> "Elizabeth Bonello" <ebonell...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> >"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>> >news:vj3orv0spgehtfbbe...@4ax.com...
>> >You merely cut-and-paste the same material
>> You don't get it, Liz. I just read what you write. That you are
>> constantly repeating yourself, that you libs have one or two ideas,
>> and that's it, and repeat the same thing - CONSTANTLY - isn't my
>> fault. I just have to keep reminding you of what was said, in the hope
>> that you might actually learn something. So - yeah - cut n paste. But
>> it's cut n paste because you guys . . make it so.
>MJ just has an aversion to including cites/urls.
If by that you mean CONSTANTLY including cites and URLs, then I'd
agree.
Oh well, 'sum'.
Peace.
-----------------------------------
Because, you jackass, it allows us to
meditate more fully on the life of Christ.
[Tony Miller, msgid:slrnaqn78...@callisto.jtan.com]
Alberich
<1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>>news:tccrrvss80pqov067...@4ax.com...
>>> "Elizabeth Bonello" <ebonell...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> >"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>>> >news:vj3orv0spgehtfbbe...@4ax.com...
>
>>> >You merely cut-and-paste the same material
>
>>> You don't get it, Liz. I just read what you write. That you are
>>> constantly repeating yourself, that you libs have one or two ideas,
>>> and that's it, and repeat the same thing - CONSTANTLY - isn't my
>>> fault. I just have to keep reminding you of what was said, in the hope
>>> that you might actually learn something. So - yeah - cut n paste. But
>>> it's cut n paste because you guys . . make it so.
>
>>MJ just has an aversion to including cites/urls.
>
>If by that you mean CONSTANTLY including cites and URLs, then I'd
>agree.
No, I think he means ONLY when you're CHALLENGED on something or
other. Of course, if this seems to be happening constantly, you might
wonder why.
Alberich
Padre Pio
<sumbunyTHIS_DOES...@cox.net> wrote:
It gets soaked in booze too?
Hell, no one told me that.
I'm trying some tomorrow on my grand shopping expedition (details to
follow, with an added section on my new coffee maker)
maf 1029
Spinach and chocolate?
Cauliflower and chocolate?
MJ's green pills and chocolate?
Wow. You're brave.
maf 1029
<sumbunyTHIS_DOES...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>news:tccrrvss80pqov067...@4ax.com...
>> "Elizabeth Bonello" <ebonell...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> >"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>> >news:vj3orv0spgehtfbbe...@4ax.com...
>> >> Well, you can say what you mean in more than one, single message. I
>> >> always do. I always have to repeat myself. It's Usenet. If it's a lot,
>> >> maybe I'll suggest one consider groups.google, or give a URL. But
>> >> we're talking a single sentence, here, Al. Surely you can type THAT
>> >> in.
>>
>> >You merely cut-and-paste the same material
>>
>> You don't get it, Liz. I just read what you write. That you are
>> constantly repeating yourself, that you libs have one or two ideas,
>> and that's it, and repeat the same thing - CONSTANTLY - isn't my
>> fault. I just have to keep reminding you of what was said, in the hope
>> that you might actually learn something. So - yeah - cut n paste. But
>> it's cut n paste because you guys . . make it so.
>
>
>MJ just has an aversion to including cites/urls....it might actually prove
>that he is wrong....
IMO, he has a severe allergy to being proved wrong. Perhaps a shot
with a great big needle inserted into his left butt cheek would cure
him.
maf 1029
wrote:
HELLO, PEOPLE! This is MJ, the Master of Aversion, the Prince of
Projection, His Royal and Holy Persecutedness. His Immunity to Reason
(TM) also makes him blind and deaf to wondering about anything.
Alberich
But be careful, you wouldn't want to blind him by accident.
Alberich
Mark Johnson
>>>MJ just has an aversion to including cites/urls.
>>If by that you mean CONSTANTLY including cites and URLs, then I'd
>>agree.
>No, I think he means ONLY when you're CHALLENGED on something
I think he must have meant CONSTANTLY including such. Because that
would reflect the record.
Peace.
------------------------------------------------------------
* When one finds nothing more to say to God,
* but just knows He is there --
* that, in itself, is the best of prayers.
[Fr. John Vianney, priest of Ars township, France, 1859]
Mark Johnson
>>IMO, he has a severe allergy to being proved wrong. Perhaps a shot
>>with a great big needle inserted into his left butt cheek would cure
>>him.
>But be careful, you wouldn't want to blind him by accident.
>Alberich
You should worry more about evolutionism, than insulting me out of
frustration because you have nothing to say about, evolutionism -
which you so zealously defend.
Fair?
Daniel Hoehr
Which, according to exclusive reports that came through last night
CET, is just splendid. maf sounded very jolly.
DH
Daniel Hoehr
SumBuny wrote:
> "Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> news:tccrrvss80pqov067...@4ax.com...
>
>>"Elizabeth Bonello" <ebonell...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>>>news:vj3orv0spgehtfbbe...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>Well, you can say what you mean in more than one, single message. I
>>>>always do. I always have to repeat myself. It's Usenet. If it's a lot,
>>>>maybe I'll suggest one consider groups.google, or give a URL. But
>>>>we're talking a single sentence, here, Al. Surely you can type THAT
>>>>in.
>>
>>>You merely cut-and-paste the same material
>>
>>You don't get it, Liz. I just read what you write. That you are
>>constantly repeating yourself, that you libs have one or two ideas,
>>and that's it, and repeat the same thing - CONSTANTLY - isn't my
>>fault. I just have to keep reminding you of what was said, in the hope
>>that you might actually learn something. So - yeah - cut n paste. But
>>it's cut n paste because you guys . . make it so.
>
>
>
> MJ just has an aversion to including cites/urls....
..... except for his own, of course
> it might actually prove
> that he is wrong....
Sweety, he proves with each and every post that he is wrong. And he
knows he is wrong. He just doesn't like it.
Greetings from your Godmouse, August, btw. He's just had a snack and
has now curled up with his buddy Heinrich and they're napping.
Good idea, btw.
DH & veternosi* musculi Dei
(veternosus, -a, -um: full of sleep)
Daniel Hoehr
***SPLOOOOSH***
> Alberich
maf 1029
I am jolly well, thank you for asking. No more sodding hunting for the
coffee in the early morning. The coffee will be ready for me, thanks
to the automatic timer thing. Just like this morning: I got up around
7:30, and bo and lehold!!! COFFEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am no longer an ugly sodding grouch in the morning, who can't even
speak or do anything besides extend his middle finger (It's true, just
ask DH. Just keep in mind that he's no Prince Charming, either)
maf 1029
wrote:
How forgetful of me not to include _that_ little caveat... here.
Although -- you would think everyone would be aware by now of MJ's
little rectus-cranius-locutus problem.... here.
maf 1029
Good job. I only splorked.
Alberich
<1023...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>Alberich <Albe...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
>>>IMO, he has a severe allergy to being proved wrong. Perhaps a shot
>>>with a great big needle inserted into his left butt cheek would cure
>>>him.
>
>>But be careful, you wouldn't want to blind him by accident.
>>Alberich
>
>You should worry more about evolutionism, than insulting me out of
>frustration because you have nothing to say about, evolutionism -
>which you so zealously defend.
Qui non est hodie cras minus aptus erit.
Alberich
SumBuny
"maf 1029" <m...@ihatespam.nl> wrote in message
news:kdstrvoj7o05uor1o...@4ax.com...
Enough chocolate can drown out the bad taste of almost everything....OK, its
a "girl thing", but it works....(though I am not awfully sure of that last
one--and am not willing to try). Maybe it is tied in to XX chromosomes?
Buny
SumBuny
> "SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> >news:tccrrvss80pqov067...@4ax.com...
> >> "Elizabeth Bonello" <ebonell...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> >"Mark Johnson" <1023...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:vj3orv0spgehtfbbe...@4ax.com...
>
> >> >You merely cut-and-paste the same material
>
> >> You don't get it, Liz. I just read what you write. That you are
> >> constantly repeating yourself, that you libs have one or two ideas,
> >> and that's it, and repeat the same thing - CONSTANTLY - isn't my
> >> fault. I just have to keep reminding you of what was said, in the hope
> >> that you might actually learn something. So - yeah - cut n paste. But
> >> it's cut n paste because you guys . . make it so.
>
> >MJ just has an aversion to including cites/urls.
>
> If by that you mean CONSTANTLY including cites and URLs, then I'd
> agree.
Prove it...show an entire post where you have cited the URL to this
quote....
Buny
Elizabeth Bonello
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:01:56 GMT, "Elizabeth Bonello"
> <ebonell...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Oh, it is a very delicious Italian dessert. It is composed of one layer
of
> >ladyfingers soaked in sweetened espresso, then a thick layer of a
marscapone
> >cheese custard, topped by a sifting of cocoa and shaved chocolate. Two
> >words for you: yum mee.
> >
> >Really, it *is* a kind of cheesecake--marscapone-style.
>
> Cool. I'm drooling already.
> What's marscapone?
Whoops, I transposed the "r"--it is supposed to be mascarpone. It is an
Italian soft cheese. Think about cream cheese. Now think about the former
with heavy cream added to the point that the cheese is the consistency of
soft butter. Now add a *hint* of acidity. It is the cheese that I prefer
to use when I make cannoli. It can be hard to find, since it has a very
short shelf-life, but it is worth it. It's probably easier to get on your
side of the pond, since it is made in Lombardy.
--
LittleBit
There is no sincerer love than the love of food.
- George Bernard Shaw