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From: duke <duckgumb...@cox.net>
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 13:40:03 -0700, Pete <b...@sod.cal> wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:59:56 -0400, H.E. Eickleberry, Jr. wrote:
>
>> Now, the churches BEFORE the Reformation peripherally knew that it took 
>> a LIFETIME of Christian living to actually be a Christian, and out of 
>> this grew their "works" traditions--for the better and worse.
>> 
>> Then the Gospel began to be perverted, with circus-tent charlatans 
>> teaching "sinner's prayers" and bathtub dunking as the end of salvation, 
>> when these things are only the BEGINNING of it, leading to lies like the 
>> "eternal security" doctrine.
>
>This is why religion sucks big time. Those churches you speak of controlled
>the people they granted salvation to those they chose and denied it to
>others they despised.

Dumbass pete.  The Church saves no one, pete.  Only God decided that.



 Many others it was hit and miss, pay penance, or
>money and buy your way out. This is not to negate the very few that found
>the truth and lived it out of died at the stake or torture racks, etc.
>
>It has always been instantaneous, salvation. Born again. One instant. A new
>creation/creature again, one instant, born of the Spirit, Spiritual. Our
>spirits, sealed by the Holy Spirit. Our spiritual righteousness as perfect
>as perfect can be for it is the righteousness of God. Justification?
>Through Jesus Christ we have been justified. Our spirit, is spiritually
>complete, fully redeemed, We are the temples of the Holy Spirit, that is
>how complete.
>
>This is why the reformation, so we can return to our roots. The reformation
>was the act of God, while those that opposed it were acting in satans best
>interest. It has taken years to undo all the lies of those twisted
>churches.
>
>Baptism has always been from the beginning, immersion, full immersion.
>
>So as usual you compound your errors. Yes, you are serious about what you
>came up with, and very prideful as well. Yet you are incorrect, like
>forever incorrect.

The dukester, American - American
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