Today's USENET, however, is polluted by the vilest of anon trash
and the scum of the earth, especially the religious groups to
make it no longer a practical platform. It has become so trashed
by Satanic filth like so many that I won't bother to name. Rest
assured that there will be many out here that I will continue to
pray for the Lord to reward them according to their works.
I also feel that I have been violating Matt 7:6 out here and what
for? I really don't think that there are that many people still
reading USENET. USENET has become a stinking sewer.
With several other Brethren, I have started a message board at
www.TheTruthOfTheBible.com where we can keep the trash and the
devils out. I invite any real honest hearts to check it out.
To the rest, I shake the dust off my feet against you.
I plan to cancel my USENET after publishing this post.
I ask any decent readers out here to spread the word about
www.TheTruthOfTheBible.com
Bro. Steve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
http://tinyurl.com/mxu7o for trinity is antichrist sermon
"That's factual; but not true."- deceiver Robert Sowle 2007
"Pastor Steve Winter" <steve-.NO--SPAM@-prime.org> wrote in message
news:jf0173h2unk6i4aeq...@4ax.com...
>I remember when I thought computer bulletin boards were the
> ultimate thing. Now there still are some, but mostly it is
> history. Then came USENET etc and that was a practical scenario
> and reasonable platform for a while.
>
> Today's USENET, however, is polluted by the vilest of anon trash
> and the scum of the earth, especially the religious groups to
> make it no longer a practical platform. It has become so trashed
> by Satanic filth like so many that I won't bother to name. Rest
> assured that there will be many out here that I will continue to
> pray for the Lord to reward them according to their works.
>
> I also feel that I have been violating Matt 7:6 out here and what
> for? I really don't think that there are that many people still
> reading USENET. USENET has become a stinking sewer.
>
> With several other Brethren, I have started a message board at
> www.TheTruthOfTheBible.com where we can keep the trash and the
> devils out. I invite any real honest hearts to check it out.
>
> To the rest, I shake the dust off my feet against you.
>
> I plan to cancel my USENET after publishing this post.
>
> I ask any decent readers out here to spread the word about
> www.TheTruthOfTheBible.com
>
> Bro. Steve Winter
To the bitter end, I still have to watch for unrelated follow-ups.
Still, I wish you all the best in your new endeavours. Phil 4:8.
Cheers,
John
Yeah till you started cursing and insulting everyone, they killed you
out of Fido net.
>
> Today's USENET, however, is polluted by the vilest of anon trash
> and the scum of the earth, especially the religious groups to
> make it no longer a practical platform. It has become so trashed
> by Satanic filth like so many that I won't bother to name. Rest
> assured that there will be many out here that I will continue to
> pray for the Lord to reward them according to their works.
Yes you will receive all the evil that you have given according to
your works, that is correct.
>
> I also feel that I have been violating Matt 7:6 out here and what
> for? I really don't think that there are that many people still
> reading USENET. USENET has become a stinking sewer.
Oh you been violating more then just one verse that is for sure. You
use the word "scum" all the time and that is one of the factors of a
stinking sewer, so we know where you live and come from.
>
> With several other Brethren, I have started a message board atwww.TheTruthOfTheBible.comwhere we can keep the trash and the
> devils out. I invite any real honest hearts to check it out.
Oh you say several other brethren, but when asked to show one, you
show nothing. I wonder if they have any name, or are they all in your
mind only.
>
> To the rest, I shake the dust off my feet against you.
Before you can get to dust, you got to dig out of all the MUD you
dumped and then the smell on your feet, no one would want to be near
you so dust off all you like it does not cover the smell of your evil,
sinful heart and tongue.
> I plan to cancel my USENET after publishing this post.
Praise the LORD, then you lie so much, no one believers you anyway,
then cancel or was it they kicked you off again.
>
> I ask any decent readers out here to spread the word about
If you were decent maybe someone would, given your past filth and
toilet tongue, I would think they are glad you posted this, so they
can tell everyone not to waste the time to go to such a link. Thank
you, you are your own best emermy.
> Bro. Steve Winter
Your no "Bro." 1 Cor 5:10-11
11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone
named a brother , who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an
idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner - not even to
eat with such a person.
2 Thess 3:6-7
But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,
that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not
according to the tradition which he received from us. NKJV
Good riddens, scumbag!
I see you have downgraded your title to just "Brother". Don't worry,
scumbag, we will find out ALL the dirt and publish it to the world.
You're no BROTHER of mine, little swine. I can't help but think that
you are being rewarded according to your works.
You're little surrender speech is laced with lies, little swine,
what's the REAL reason you are leaving usnet?
I am just glad to have played a part in the surrender of one of the
most filthy scumbags known to mankind. Myself, along with Cub Brave
have managed to bring down one of the vilest of swine out here.
I'm a humble man, but I also know I will go down in history as a very
Brave man that brought down Puster Steve Winter.
Have a BLESSED Day,
Rev. BR Collins
PS. Are you ready for your reward, Puster? Dress lightly, hell is hot,
you filthy swine.
Well what do we have here. A filthy scumbag that is sticking his nose
into my bidness.
You should repent for coming against a real christian.
Be careful, little swine, you're in danger of hellfire.
Do you know what bothers me the most about you ? Do you know what it is
that keeps sticking in my craw about you ? It's your having the type of
porn in
your possession that you had, and what you've done in relation to it. I
would
really like to say that you are not a threat to children, but I don't
know that you
AREN'T ! That bothers me a lot.
Hey revvy,
you use the same language, have the same apparent outlook as steve
winter.
I can see why you are compared to him.
Perhaps you should read your own posts, marking out which comes from
whom. Then you will not know which is from steve and which is from
you.
in the Name of Jesus,
Checker
Why you filthy little slime. You use the Name, but you have no respect
for the Name.
You anon scum never seem to "bottom out".
Hell is hot, you filthy anon swine.
I don't know about his porn, but it's difficult to believe that he really
thought in terms of his filthy mouth being Christian.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
We all have had our moments. But the truth is that even if you are not
a christian, there is no excuse for acting the way some of us do
at times. Our survival as a species depends on us helping one another
and not feeding off each other.
Rod
"Rev. BR Collins" <rev.br...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1181835210.5...@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>> I don't know about his porn, but it's difficult to believe that he really
>> thought in terms of his filthy mouth being Christian.
> We all have had our moments. But the truth is that even if you are not
> a christian, there is no excuse for acting the way some of us do
> at times. Our survival as a species depends on us helping one another
> and not feeding off each other.
I would hardly call his never-ending ugliness as a moment. As far as I can
tell, his state of confusion was so bad that he never reflected any knowledge of
the golden rule.
A price to pay for alternative fuels
BRUCE HENDERSON
bhend...@charlotteobserver.com
Bob Teixeira re-applies a sticker touting an alternative fuel he uses in his
car. He plans to fight to change fuel-tax laws that have hit his wallet.
Bob Teixeira decided it was time to take a stand against U.S. dependence on
foreign oil.
So last fall the Charlotte musician and guitar instructor spent $1,200 to
convert his 1981 diesel Mercedes to run on vegetable oil. He bought soybean
oil in 5-gallon jugs at Costco, spending about 30 percent more than diesel
would cost.
His reward, from a state that heavily promotes alternative fuels: a $1,000
fine last month for not paying motor fuel taxes.
He's been told to expect another $1,000 fine from the federal government.
And to legally use veggie oil, state officials told him, he would have to
first post a $2,500 bond.
Teixeira is one of a growing number of fuel-it-yourselfers -- backyard
brewers who recycle restaurant grease or make moonshine for their car tanks.
They do it to save money, reduce pollution or thumb their noses at oil
sheiks.
They're also caught in a web of little-known state laws that can stifle
energy independence.
State Sen. Stan Bingham, R-Davidson, is known around Raleigh for his diesel
Volkswagen fueled by used soybean oil. The car sports a "Goodbye, OPEC"
sign.
"If somebody was going to go to this much trouble to drive around in a car
that uses soybean oil, they ought to be exempt" from state taxes, he said.
The N.C. Department of Revenue, which fined Teixeira, has asked legislators
to waive the $2,500 bond for small fuel users. The department also told
Teixeira, after the Observer asked about his case this week, that it will
compromise on his fine.
But officials say they'll keep pursuing taxes on all fuels used in highway
vehicles. With its 29.9-cent a gallon gas tax, the state collects $1.2
billion each year to pay for road construction.
"With the high cost of fuel right now, the department does recognize that a
lot of people are looking for relief," said Reggie Little, assistant
director of the motor fuel taxes division. "We're not here to hurt the small
guy, we're just trying to make sure that the playing field is level."
<more>
That rules applies to us also, and though our "moments" aren't measured
in years
as his is, I still would invite him to leave but hold the door open after
he is gone.
You never know when a guy is going to break and have a change of heart
and try
to return. I doubt it happens with him, but one never knows entirely..
> As far as I can
> tell, his state of confusion was so bad that he never reflected any
> knowledge of
> the golden rule.
This is a fact......
Rod
>Well what do we have here. A filthy scumbag that is sticking his nose
>into my bidness.
>
>You should repent for coming against a real christian.
>
>Be careful, little swine, you're in danger of hellfire.
>
>
>Have a BLESSED Day,
>
>Rev. BR Collins
>
What we have here is a deluded person that uses a title he is not
authorised to, who is so uneducated that he cannot spell and has no sense of dignity whatsoever. He is also the obvious replacement of the aforementioned Mr Winter.
To start with Riddence is correctly spelt riddance,I do not know of any body having bidness, so it may well be your own, sure is nobody else's!
As concerning a real Christian, your language assures every real Christian that you are not what you claim to be, and you are most
certainly NOT reverend in any way shape, or form. Filthy scumbag is a very old and well used saying of Mr Winter, so the supposition that you are associated with him is logical, even if not to you.
Lastly, if you post on a newsgroup it is not personal "bidness" but a public forum, so it is NOT your own "Bidness" at all really.
Just a few facts for you to reply with abuse to.
Ro
Is that how you get your jollies, revey? By calling names (the EXACT
same names bty as your brother, steve winter?)
LOL!
In the Name of Jesus,
Checker
>>>> I don't know about his porn, but it's difficult to believe that he
>>>> really
>>>> thought in terms of his filthy mouth being Christian.
>>
>>> We all have had our moments. But the truth is that even if you are not
>>> a christian, there is no excuse for acting the way some of us do
>>> at times. Our survival as a species depends on us helping one another
>>> and not feeding off each other.
>>
>> I would hardly call his never-ending ugliness as a moment.
> That rules applies to us also, and though our "moments" aren't measured
>in years
> as his is, I still would invite him to leave but hold the door open after
>he is gone.
Of course it applies to us all. I've just never seen a supposed man of God that
was so outright ignorant of the way he toiled in filthy insult to everybody he
conversed with.
I have reason to believe it was deliberate, due mostly to a psychological
makeup that he was having a lot of difficulty suppressing. He had several
assumed behaviors that just weren't natural to the man behind them. He
has denied it before, but I had an opportunity to dig deeper than most.
He
can be verbally very violent as a response to that kind of probing...
>> Of course it applies to us all. I've just never seen a supposed man of
>> God that
>> was so outright ignorant of the way he toiled in filthy insult to
>> everybody he
>> conversed with.
> I have reason to believe it was deliberate, due mostly to a psychological
> makeup that he was having a lot of difficulty suppressing. He had several
> assumed behaviors that just weren't natural to the man behind them. He
> has denied it before, but I had an opportunity to dig deeper than most.
>He
> can be verbally very violent as a response to that kind of probing...
Well, he needs to find a good doctor and a good preacher that will straighten
him out.
snip
This is typical, you spewed on fidonet, then usenet for over 15 years
all added. The damage you have done is truly amazing, you even mocked
when people were dead. Hey oneness brothers is this your "brother". If
one thing your not on usenet anymore thats good.
You are still praying your voodoo curses again I see. Pathetic.
>
> We all have had our moments. But the truth is that even if you are not
> a christian, there is no excuse for acting the way some of us do
> at times. Our survival as a species depends on us helping one another
> and not feeding off each other.
>
>
> Rod
The Christians seem to be by far the slowest to learn that reality
Sigh!
"In earlier times, when the relevant social unit was the tribe, the
religious sect, a nation, or even a civilization, it was possible for the
local mythology in service to that unit to represent all those beyond its
bounds as inferior, and its own local inflection of the universal human
heritage of mythological imagery either as the one, the true and
sanctified, or at least as the noblest and supreme.
And it was in those times beneficial to the order of the group that its
young should be trained to respond positively to their own system of
tribal signals and negatively to all others, to reserve their love for
home and to project their hatreds outward.
Today, however, we are the passengers, all, of this single spaceship Earth
... There were formerly horizons within which people lived and thought and
mythologized.
There are now no more horizons."
-Joseph Campbell
>
> Well, he needs to find a good doctor and a good preacher that will straighten
> him out.
>
> duke, American-American
There is hardly a person on this line calling himself "Christian" who does
not desperately need similar therapy
Unfortunately the priests can't be trusted either. They are too much into
perpetuating fairy tales and meaningless dogma in order to preserve their
own positions and identities
>There is hardly a person on this line calling himself "Christian" who does
>not desperately need similar therapy
I don't know of any Christian that treated others as ugly and unchristian as he
did.
>Unfortunately the priests can't be trusted either.
I'd trust a priest I don't know before I'd trust you.
"There is a way which seemeth right unto a man,
but the end thereof are the ways of death." [Proverbs 14:12]
--
1. You have sinned against God.
"For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God."
[Rom. 3:23]
"Whosoever shall keep the whole law and yet offend in
one point, he is guilty of all."[Jas. 2:10]
"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves,
and the truth is not in us." [1 Jn. 1:8]
2. God is a holy, sin-hating God.
"Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and
canst not look on iniquity."[Hab. 1:13]
"For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness;
neither shall evil dwell in thee." [Ps. 5:4]
3. God's holy nature demands that all sin must be punished.
"For the wages of sin is death."[Rom. 6:23]
"And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and
death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them:
and they were judged every man according to their works.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.
This is the second death. And whosoever was not found
written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
[Rev. 20:14-15]
4. God gave up himself as a sacrifice for your sins,
receiving the wages of sin, which is death.
" For such an high priest became us, who is holy,
harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made
higher than the heavens;
Who needeth not daily, ..., to offer
up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's:
for this he did once, when he offered up himself." [Heb 7:26-27]
"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that,
while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."[Rom. 5:8]
"He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised
for our iniquities."[Isa. 53:5]
"Who did no sin...Who his own self bare our sins in
his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins,
should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes
ye were healed." [1 Pet. 22, 24]
"Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures:
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the
third day according to the scriptures" [1 Cor. 15:3-4]
5. Jesus' death alone can save you from Hell--an
eternal separation from God--and nothing else.
"He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied:
by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many;
for he shall bear their iniquities."[Isa. 53:11]
"For if righteousness come by the law, then Christ
died in vain."[Gal. 2:21]
"Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh
be justified in His sight."[Rom. 3:20]
"Not by works of righeousness which we have done,
but according to His mercy He saved us."[Titus 3:5]
"But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our
righteousnesses are as filty rags."[Isa. 64:6]
6. Eternal life is a gift from God to be received, not earned.
"The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."[Rom. 6:23]
"As many as received him, to them gave he power to
become sons of God, even to them that believe on his name."[John 1:12]
7. To receive eternal life and be saved from Hell,
you must ask Jesus to save you.
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the
Lord shall be saved."[Rom. 10:13]
When you ask to be saved, two things are of vital importance:
"Repentence toward God, and Faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ."[Acts 20:21]
"Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."[Lk. 13:3]
"For thou desirest not sacrifices, else I would give it:
thou delightest not in burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are
a broken spirit: a broken and contrite heart, O God, thou
wilt not despise."[Ps 51:16-17]
"I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into
the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but
there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto
you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other
gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."
[Galatians 1:6-9]
>
> I'd trust a priest I don't know before I'd trust you.
>
I've noticed
There was the one that drew up Concordats with Hitler and kept the Church
from interfering in the Holocaust or in the rape of Europe by Fascism and
Nazism
Then there is the present one who was in the German Nazi Army at that time
You seem to choose your trusted priests very unwisely, Dume
Apostolic succession! kiss ma butt!
Strange how Christians pass round Biblical quotes in the same way that pot
smokers pass the bong or the joint.
There are very disturbing similarities. Both seem to think their chosen
toxins answer all questions. Both deny addiction but return frequently
for another fix when the previous round wears off
I don't think the bubble is ever on center in him.
Quartus, a brother
>> I'd trust a priest I don't know before I'd trust you.
>I've noticed
Glad you did.
Interesting. His little website is down to 7 members after a high of 8. Was
someone booted?
May God bless,
Carl
website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
"Carl" <sai...@nettally.com> wrote in message
news:f5a0pj$sun$1...@news.utelfla.com...
>
> "Quartus, a brother" <quartus_a_br...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:vfCdnVHhiuZK5Ovb...@giganews.com...
>>
>> "Now, as an aside here, let me share something that I noticed. If you
>> take the phrase "a lie" and say it with a good southern accent it sounds
>> like the false god of one of the false religions. Is it not astounding
>> that so many follow a religion where the name of their "god" is "a lie"
>> (allah)." - Steve Winter
>>
>>
>> I don't think the bubble is ever on center in him.
>
> Interesting. His little website is down to 7 members after a high of 8.
> Was someone booted?
>
> May God bless,
> Carl
It could be for several reasons ranging from a temporary membership, to
disagreement. It's still early and the numbers could go either way.
Cheers,
John
Steve Winter will not allow _any_ dissent, nor any questioning of his
actions. Surely an insecure individual, but the cause of his long
standing problems are probably more sinister.
Quartus, a brother
Agreed. He has created a small personal oasis where he can present his
heresies to a small group of approved disciples who will do nothing but pat
him on his back and inflate his ego. Anyone who even remotely questions him
will be summarily removed. He no longer can be challenged with scripture in
his own little protected world and I feel the activity there will dwindle to
only one or two others' participation. It would not surprise me in the least
if he secretly checks in on Usenet from time to time. I also feel that at
some point he will probably reappear on Usenet once again full of sound and
fury preaching his heretical version of fire and brimstone. I the meantime I
am enjoying his absence although "Rev. BR Collins" seems to be his
unintentional replacement.
Take note, reprobate Carl, that Puster Winter is STILL lurking out
here. He's watching just like he was before. He is STILL trying to get
my account cancelled through yahoo.
He has now resorted to "covert" terrorism.
But hey, let's not forget that BOTH of you satanic swine will spend
eternity in a DEVIL'S HELL.
Puster Winter, I know you're still watching. I'm still gathering info
on your recent "descent" in rank. The whole story will be brought to
light, little swine, you can COUNT on that.
Look Fraser, his number's will be about the same as they are in his
old church. You see, he only attracts NUTS! You can see that out here.
The only people he ever converted were nuts like good ole "Rod".
All he has in that fledgling little group are a couple of wacko nuts
that have been dismissed by other denoms.
Have a BLESSED Day,(if canadians can)
Rev. BR Collins
"Carl" <sai...@nettally.com> wrote in message
news:f5jbdu$7is$1...@news.utelfla.com...
Starting off with the usual anti-trinity and water baptism speeches
certainly sets the tone for the group. As such, our five pastoral
candidates left ample room for other topics of discussion. Time will tell
what the true potential is.
Cheers,
John
> It would not surprise me in the least
> if he secretly checks in on Usenet from time to time. I also feel that at
> some point he will probably reappear on Usenet once again full of sound and
> fury preaching his heretical version of fire and brimstone.
I agree. After all, Harold Camping is still going strong after making a
fool of himself in 1984.
"But ye, beloved, remember the words spoken before by the apostles of
our Lord Jesus Christ, that they said to you, that at the end of the
time there should be mockers, walking after their own lusts of
ungodlinesses. These are they who set [themselves] apart, natural men,
not having the Spirit.
But ye, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying
in the Holy Spirit, keep yourselves in the love of God, awaiting the
mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life." --Jude
Blessings, Carl. Keep yourself in the love of God.
Quartus, a brother
Thats okay Cub, I'm having the very last laugh, mainly because your going
to
his site and browsing on port 80 allowed him to take a snapshot of your
ip
address and location. And because you feel it an honor to mistreat
everyone
that you speak with, I'm going to tell Steve what to look for to find
you. Your
AOL proxy servers won't be able to mask your addy on port 80, my little
demented
Reverend. All he needs is your proxy address and a copy of the server
log, and
YOU are done DUMMY.......
>
> All he has in that fledgling little group are a couple of wacko nuts
> that have been dismissed by other denoms.
Lets talk about you for a moment, and you following him around the net
making thet threats that you have. It IS stalking
dummy........................
>
>
> Have a BLESSED Day,(if canadians can)
You need a blessing against your own stupidity. You stalk someone not
botherring you
then you boast of it here.
Rod
You are so stupid, "Rod", I have not been following him anywhere. My
ip is available here also, scumbag. You are a filthy, lying, swine. I
am not afraid of you, nor am I impressed by your diatribe about ip
addys.
You are mentally retarded, "Rod", and a lying braggart to boot. You
are not taken seriously out here or anywhere for that matter.
BTW, I'm not Cub, I'm Rev. BR Collins.
Have a BLESSED Day, and go piss on yourself,
Rev. BR Collins
I'm not trying to scare you. I don't want anyone fooled by your lies.
>
> You are mentally retarded, "Rod", and a lying braggart to boot.
Yourself and several other people regularly tell lies and defame others
as that makes you feel worthwhile and impressive. This isn't anything
out of the ordinary or unusual, usenet is filled with evil people. What
IS unusual is that you post to google from behind an AOL proxy
server which retains access logs on ports 8080 and 80 for 30 days.
A court order or a nicely engineered letter to the proxy admin will
get a copy of that log for Steve Winter without a lot of effort.
> You
> are not taken seriously out here or anywhere for that matter.
Of course not. There are far to many self impressed egos running
loose on usenet to compete with, and they are your kind of people.
Thats the big thing with you folks, when you can't contribute
anything of value you start by belittling those people that can and
do. People like you claim christianity as your religion while elevating
yourselves above others. This is more than ample reason to spurn
association with any church denomination.
>
> BTW, I'm not Cub, I'm Rev. BR Collins.
What you are is a liar........
>Have a BLESSED Day, and go piss on yourself,
Thats really typical behavior for many men of God and one chronic liar
known as Cub Brave. If Steve doesn't know that you've been hacking his
site
and entering it without his permission, he WILL when he reads this post.
Steve, this portion is for you. Your server http.conf file is not
configured
correctly. Visitors are able to enter your site without your permission
and
read your posts. You can change this by adding the - sign to the left of
your ExecCGI statement in the options section of http.conf and change
the path statement of the file so that CGI is not executable in script
alias
directories, reconfigure your script alias directories so that only
passworded
users have access to them.
After you've done all that, open your access log and search for the ip
addy's
64.12.0.0 thru 64.12.255.255
The address below is an AOL proxy server named
cache-mtc-ad04.proxy.aol.com.
The AOL admins are required to keep access logs on their servers for 30
days,
and if you talk nicely and explain why he may email you a copy of that
log. Assuming
that he gives you a copy, compare the time, date, and port used to access
your server
by 64.12.116.198, to a time and date with your server address in the
outgoing
columb. On that same line look to the incoming columb and you will see Cub
Braves
ip addy. From here I think you can figure out what to do next....
Here is his entire header below. For those not knowing how, the path
statement
is read from right to left, the NNTP Posting Host is the machine that
connected
to, in this case Google, and the actual machine that Cub posts from cannot
be seen
in the header info as he is behind an AOL proxie server.
64.12.116.198
cache-mtc-ad04.proxy.aol.com.........THIS is the proxy that Cub hides behind
to
post.
Path:
newssvr14.news.prodigy.net!newsdbm05.news.prodigy.net!newsdst01.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.com!newscon04.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!postnews.google.com!o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: "Rev. BR Collins" <rev.br...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.bible,alt.christnet.public,triangle.general,alt.religion.christian.pentecostal,free.christians
Subject: Re: Words of Wisdom from Bro. Steve Winter?
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:43:56 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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Message-ID: <1182649436.3...@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
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<b60373dbv1q2j4gqe...@4ax.com>
<gRfci.14487$RX.1...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>
<Jesse-17060...@192.168.0.3>
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<Jesse-18060...@192.168.0.3>
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<4678fc0b$0$4343$9a56...@news.aliant.net>
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<Oihfi.5966$bP5...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.116.198
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1182649439 916 127.0.0.1 (24 Jun 2007 01:43:59
GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 01:43:59 +0000 (UTC)
In-Reply-To: <Oihfi.5966$bP5...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net>
User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; AOL 9.0; Windows NT
5.1; Websearch4u 1; (R1 1.3); .NET CLR 1.1.4322),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
X-HTTP-Via: HTTP/1.1 (Velocity/1.3.32 [uScMs f p eN:t cCMp s ]), HTTP/1.1
spider-mtc-td07.proxy.aol.com[400C7067] (Prism/1.2.0), HTTP/1.1
cache-mtc-ad04.proxy.aol.com[400C74C6] (Traffic-Server/6.1.5 [uScM])
Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
Injection-Info: o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=64.12.116.198;
posting-account=ck37Yw0AAABqtrTVU4IlrgVMV2dT0WHZ
Xref: prodigy.net alt.bible:1321308 alt.christnet.public:226702
triangle.general:368699 alt.religion.christian.pentecostal:4183
OrgName: America Online, Inc.
OrgID: AMERIC-158
Address: 10600 Infantry Ridge Road
City: Manassas
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 20109
Country: US
NetRange: 64.12.0.0 - 64.12.255.255
CIDR: 64.12.0.0/16
NetName: AOL-MTC
NetHandle: NET-64-12-0-0-1
Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: DNS-01.NS.AOL.COM
NameServer: DNS-02.NS.AOL.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 1999-12-13
Updated: 1999-12-16
RTechHandle: AOL-NOC-ARIN
RTechName: America Online, Inc.
RTechPhone: +1-703-265-4670
RTechEmail: dom...@aol.net
An email to the address above may also get you a copy of that server log.
A series of repeat
connections for more than 3 minute periods can point to stalking activity
and / or hacking.
You such a dork, "Rod", I've done nothing wrong here. YOU are just
trying to silence me. You're "ip addy diatribe" does not impress me,
scumbag.
I have hacked no one, little swine. While you, on the other hand are
spreading lies and speculation.
Is this another sample of "strong" christian morality coming into play
again ???
You seem to be improving post by post though, I have hope that oneday
you'll become a man instead of a trouble making punk.
> I've done nothing wrong here.
Of course not. Liars NEVER lie, do they ???
> YOU are just
> trying to silence me.
Not JUST trying to silence you, but yes that is also true. I am trying to
prevent
you from further harassing the man, put your sorry ass behind bars, and
take
away any reasons he may have for returning here.
Steve Winter is GONE ! It's O-V-E-R... leave the man alone and S-T-O-P
persecuting him, and get yourself a GOOD lawyer because if he knows how
to use
the info I posted then you'll soon be doing time. Call it "poetic
justice"........
> You're "ip addy diatribe" does not impress me,
> scumbag.
It wasn't meant to impress anyone, it was meant to convey the facts to a
public nuisance. You are harassing Steve Winter for no good reason,
moral,
legal or otherwise, and he has a right to retaliate by getting the law
involved.
In your case, this may be one of the very few times that Steve was ever
right
about anything. You are a MAJOR pain in the ass that needs to be
rectfied.
>
> I have hacked no one, little swine.
Steves server log will pretty much prove one way or another whether you
did
in fact exploit a loophole in his security or not. I'll take the server
log over
anything you have to say, so save your lying BS for law enforcement and
others liking
to see that BS...
> While you, on the other hand are
> spreading lies and speculation.
>
The facts are that in order for you to know how many people are on his
site
you MUST have access to the site. Secondly, you have judged how many
people participate their by how many differing posts you have observed
over a period of days, and who the regular posters are. I won't tell you
"how"
I know what I do, but I will tell you that their are more than 8 people
that
have LEGAL access to that server that do NOT post.
I have a vested interest in Steve Winters welfare. I do not want to see
him harassed
or stalked any more than I would want that for myself, AND I do NOT want
him to
have a reason to RETURN here, and if stopping your stalking of him will
prevent
that from happening, then all the better........
In this case it is a choice of taking out the lesser of two evils, you
being the only one
present.
Rod
Cub Brave,
Wish you would stop nym shifting.
But scince you did; what does the nym stand for? Why the Rev part?
No offense intended, just curious.
BB
Uh, BR, you've already shown yourself to not be a man of God but a simple,
traditional, run-of-the-mill Usenet troll. You know not what the Bible
teaches and you hide behind a phony title. You are merely a replacement for
Steve Winter sent by satan to act as yet another heretic to be rejected by
Christians. I pity you and will pray for you. When the light of God's truth
shines upon you, you scuttle back into the shadows.
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
> To the rest, I shake the dust off my feet against you.
>
> I plan to cancel my USENET after publishing this post.
Wow. I never thought I'd see the day when he'd actually pick up his
marbles and go home. When a person so full of himself finds he can't
make a dent in the opinions of others, he creates a new environment for
himself where he can.
SB
I go visit that little bunker of isolationism Steve Winter created for
himself from time to time and note how few of its members actually
participate (and even then it's more of how much they can kiss up to
Steve) and how many members were "excommunicated" from its ranks. The
stats are there for anyone to see. It's not surprising that Steve
Winter wants to be a loved and respected cult leader like Jim Jones or
Sun Yung Moon. The only problem is that Steve Winter has no charisma
and such an abrasive personality that even those who agree with him
theologically cannot stand to be associated with him.
At least he's no longer darkening Usenet with his presence any longer.
Anyone laying odds on how long until he returns?
<sai...@nettally.com> wrote in message
news:1185156994....@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
I have perused The Truth of the Bible website on several occasions and
it's themes are essentially the same as his favourite rants on Usenet. The
difference is he can now limit disagreement whereas he was previously at the
mercy of his adversary. He'll eventually be back. I suspect he may check
in from time to time to see if he's remembered and how. At the moment, he
enjoys the company of those who uphold his opinions on Scripture and enjoys
bouncing those who don't. It's interesting that he was the first to violate
the rules of Netiquette and he is the SysOp as well.
Cheers,
John
True. Steve Winter has always shown himself to be double-minded
speaking ill and full of deceit on Usenet, Fidonet, IRC and other
areas of the Internet. Why should it be any different in his own
personal little Internet bunker? I still pray for him.
He will be back as what he has now is the same as he always had, and
people just stopped going there, so he came to these newsgroups to get
his name known and hope to get people to his website. He never let
anyone stay that disagreed with him at Prime. I see nothing has
changed, when he can not get attention there he will come back and
start up his evil ways here again. His ego will not let him stay
away, he needs such attention, for or against really doesn't matter as
long as someone is playing attention to him. He been a SysOp of his
own Prime Net all this time, he violated Fido Net rules and made a big
problem then also, as they kicked him out, he got made at me because
as a SysOp for a short time till I got to know his kind of messages,
he kicked me out like Fido net did to him. I was still in Fido net
and with the Christian network that he wanted into, I was the SysOp
that was responsible for the Sysops of the HK Christian network, and
when he dumped me, the other SysOps that knew me, called and wanted to
cut all links with Prime Net as he also insulted them at their website
by his links to them. I told him to stop his toilet tongued messages
and he want off the deep end, so the HK network cut him off. He goes
against his own bylaws and rules as he is above them as he thinks he
is above all here and if we do not bend the knee to him, he goes in to
attack mode, only here others went into attack mode also, and he left
us here for now. I sure if all I have seen in the past with others
he will be back and we can just be glad he is out of the picture for
now.
Cheers,
Raymond
"Raymond" <rwk...@aim.com> wrote in message
news:1185202789.7...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
A few have already replaced him, Phil Holmes comes to mind, BR Collins
to some extent. Well, some people are never happy even when they get their
way.
Cheers,
John
Then Phil Holmes is like Steve his mouth needs a good washing, his
ignorants is so great he thinks he has a dog by the neck and it ends
up biting him. It does seem like some like these guys wait till the
likes like Steve goes into hiding so they can do his job and not have
to worry about Steve getting after them. I suppose they have mental
problems and the Internet is the best place they can let it all out
and hope no one finds them. Then Phil in the past would give his
address and such, even gave a Pastors name and phone number so people
would think he was brave or just stupid. Oh well I hope we can have
some good discussions here and just not waste the time to reply to
these folks that have such hang ups. How you been? Still truck
driving? Hope all is well at your place and these guys don't get you
too upset, for their bad manners and such.
Cheers,
Raymond
Makes you wonder what kind of probing Rod did to Stevie Boy?
Or where he probed! and with wthat he probed!
AREN"T YOU ONE OF THOSE HOMOSEXUALS ROD?
Aren't you in with the Homosexuals Rodie Old Boy?
Phillip Ray Holmes
phillip...@yahoo.com
JUST WONDERING
True. Looking at the stats on Winter's little internet bunker shows
that only two people are really active and that's "Brother" Hood with
about 14.5 hours total and "Brother" Steve Winter with about 8.5
hours. Everyone else listed is about 1.5 hours and below. So it's
basically a two-person show. The latest post has Steve calling another
"false Christian scum" and telling them to no longer post so that
person's account's been or going to be deleted. Same old same old.
Let's enjoy Steve Winter's absence while we all can and put up with
"Steve Winter lite" better known as the fake-reverend BR Collins.
The "fake-reverend" BR Collins is what I call "Steve Winter lite."