The real definition of a sinner.

[Michael Christ]

The real definition of a sinner is a whore.

And believe me, man-made christians, a part-time whore is every bit
the same as a full-time whore.






Michael Christ

[Barry OGrady]

Nobody believes you.


>
>
>
>
>
>
>Michael Christ

========================
Glady says
>there is change within a species to another species as the individuals age.

[dolf]

On 4/05/13 11:36 AM, Barry OGrady wrote:
> On Fri, 3 May 2013 18:26:05 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
> <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The real definition of a sinner is a whore.
>>
>> And believe me, man-made christians, a part-time whore is every bit
>> the same as a full-time whore.
>
> Nobody believes you.
>

Barry O'Grady's atheism as pestilence in a Christian discussion forum
for a decade due to compulsive and repetitive behaviour might be
considered sin.

"The next thing is that only G-d can comprehend His true Being; we
simply cannot. But to fully understand that we’d need to point out that
there are two perspectives from which to approach G-d: first, as He is
Himself, within His own Essential Being, where He’s said to be
“transcendent” (beyond us); and second, as He is when He relates to His
created phenomena and is said to be “imminent” (close to us).

Let’s quickly make ourselves clear, though. Make no mistake about it --
there's only one G-d, and He is who He is wherever He is and from
whichever perspective we’re referring to. We’re merely referring to when
we can experience Him or when we can’t.

When G-d is alone in His own Essential Being, He is utterly, utterly
unfathomable and out of our experience. That’s to say that it's as
impossible to grasp Him when He's in His own Being as it is to fully and
truly grasp what's on someone's mind at any one moment." [(c) 2013 Rabbi
Jaakov Feldman, The Way of G-d, Section 1 - “The Fundamental Principles
of Reality” www.torah.org]

- http://www.torah.org/learning/ramchal/classes/class2.html

[dolf]

The Apostle Paul's view of Celibacy and The Way appears equivalent to
the Dead Sea Scroll Community's abstinence in the Damascus Document.

Apostle Paul on wives and virgins: "There is difference also between a
wife and a virgin. The unmarried {agamos-unmarried [G22]: #1, #3, #1,
#40, #70, #10, #200 = #325} woman careth for the things of the Lord,
that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married
careth for the things of the world, *how she may please her husband*."
[1Corinthians 7:34]

That's right folks he's talking about sex and that marriage is concerned
with things of the world and not Christ: "For do I now persuade men, or
God? or do I seek to *please men*? for if I yet pleased men, I should
not be the servant of Christ." [Galatians 1:10]

- dolf
- http://www.dolfboek.com/grapple.html

[Barry OGrady]

On Sat, 04 May 2013 12:55:56 +1000, dolf <dolf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 4/05/13 11:36 AM, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 May 2013 18:26:05 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>> <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The real definition of a sinner is a whore.
>>>
>>> And believe me, man-made christians, a part-time whore is every bit
>>> the same as a full-time whore.
>>
>> Nobody believes you.
>>
>
>Barry O'Grady's atheism as pestilence in a Christian discussion forum
>for a decade due to compulsive and repetitive behaviour might be
>considered sin.

It might not and who cares anyway?

>"The next thing is that only G-d can comprehend His true Being; we
>simply cannot.

And you never will be able to comprehend My true being
because you are stoopid!

>But to fully understand that we’d need to point out that
>there are two perspectives from which to approach G-d: first, as He is
>Himself, within His own Essential Being, where He’s said to be
>“transcendent” (beyond us); and second, as He is when He relates to His
>created phenomena and is said to be “imminent” (close to us).

God is closest to you when your next psychologist appointment
is near.

>Let’s quickly make ourselves clear, though. Make no mistake about it --
>there's only one G-d, and He is who He is wherever He is and from
>whichever perspective we’re referring to. We’re merely referring to when
>we can experience Him or when we can’t.

As well as G-d there is G+d, G*d, G_d, and sometimes God.

>When G-d is alone in His own Essential Being, He is utterly, utterly
>unfathomable and out of our experience. That’s to say that it's as
>impossible to grasp Him when He's in His own Being as it is to fully and
>truly grasp what's on someone's mind at any one moment."

All we need do is to work out what G[-|*|_|o]d's creator had in mind.

>[(c) 2013 Rabbi
>Jaakov Feldman, The Way of G-d, Section 1 - “The Fundamental Principles
>of Reality” www.torah.org]

A rabbi talking about reality? Let's check my irony meter. [..../]
Thought so!

Please no mention of the torah. Try to keep this clean.

[Barry OGrady]

On Sat, 04 May 2013 12:59:43 +1000, dolf <dolf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>The Apostle Paul's view of Celibacy and The Way appears equivalent to
>the Dead Sea Scroll Community's abstinence in the Damascus Document.

Its nothing like it stoopid!

[duke]

On Fri, 3 May 2013 18:26:05 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>The real definition of a sinner is a whore.

Then you are a whore because Heb 4:15 said that only Jesus never sinned.

The dukester, American - American

********************************************
Repeal Obama
You simply can't fix stupid.
********************************************

[Michael Christ]

On May 5, 3:25 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 3 May 2013 18:26:05 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>

> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >The real definition of a sinner is a whore.

Dukester wrote:
> Then you are a whore because Heb 4:15 said that only Jesus never sinned.

Stubborn ignorant 'head and heart in the tiny box of the catholic
club' fellow.

Then there is repentance...real repentance (Job repentance, Peter
repentance, Isaiah repentance, Paul repentance), not man-made
christian repentance.

If you have not thrown yourself on the altar of real repentance,
surrendered your life, you are still a whore, bible quoting boy.




Michael Christ

[GSI]

Fuck G-d and the H-rse he rode in on.

[Ike]

On 5/3/2013 9:26 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> The real definition of a sinner is a whore.

No, the real definition of a sinner is this, blasphemer.

You...

1Jn 1:
8 � If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth
is not in us.

A Christian...

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our
sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Ike

[Ike]

On 5/4/2013 4:02 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On May 5, 3:25 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 May 2013 18:26:05 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>>
>> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> The real definition of a sinner is a whore.
>
> Dukester wrote:
>> Then you are a whore because Heb 4:15 said that only Jesus never sinned.
>
> Stubborn ignorant 'head and heart in the tiny box of the catholic
> club' fellow.
>
> Then there is repentance...real repentance (Job repentance, Peter
> repentance, Isaiah repentance, Paul repentance), not man-made
> christian repentance.

STOP right there, liar.

The "repentance" referred to by the Old Testament prophets is NOT the
"repentance" referred to by the New Testament prophets.

THIS story contrasts the two...

10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the
other a publican.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee,
that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or
even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as
his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful
to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than
the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he
that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

YOU = PHARISEE

This passage contrasts the two...

1Jn 1:
8 � If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth
is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our
sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

YOU = SELF DECEIVED

What you keep calling "man-made Christianity" IS GOD-MADE GOSPEL, moron;
and what you call "Gospel" is just PHARISAICAL LEGALISM REVIVED.

Yeesh, are you ever stupid: You have no idea what the Gospel is.

Ike

[Michael Christ]

On May 5, 5:35 pm, Ike <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/4/2013 4:02 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>
> > On May 5, 3:25 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 3 May 2013 18:26:05 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>
> >> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> The real definition of a sinner is a whore.
>
> > Dukester wrote:
> >> Then you are a whore because Heb 4:15 said that only Jesus never sinned.

Michael Christ wrote:
> > Stubborn ignorant 'head and heart in the tiny box of the catholic
> > club' fellow.
>
> > Then there is repentance...real repentance (Job repentance, Peter
> > repentance, Isaiah repentance, Paul repentance), not man-made
> > christian repentance.

Ike upset by the idea of giving your whole life to God, pricked of

Reality isn't swished away by your attempt to conceal.

"The real definition of a sinner is a whore".

I am not interested in your personal focus. You bang your own drum
and context all you like.

You are a whore, Ike, plain and simple. That is what you get for not
laying down/surrendering your life to the Lord as you should. Trying
to hide your sin in theology is a fool's pursuit.

It is your own dumb fault you don't get cleansed of ALL
unrighteousness by the Lord. Your theology hasn't got a hope in hell
because it is 'Ike' sinner theology.'

Always trying to scam it in your fallen nature. Give it up, boy.


Michael Christ

[Michael Christ]

On May 5, 5:30 pm, Ike <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/3/2013 9:26 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>
> > The real definition of a sinner is a whore.

(snip a bit of Ike bullshit)

Ike wrote:
> 1Jn 1:
> 8  If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth
> is not in us.
>
> A Christian...
>
> 9  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our
> sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>
> Ike

Amen. Imagine that, the Lord who created the universe after we repent
of our UTTER and TOTAL depravity in our sin can cleanse a man of not
just this or that, but all unrighteousness.

So there is no excuse.

1Jn 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in
darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

So a sinner (a walker in darkness) is a whore, what else can he be?

1Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath
not seen him, neither known him.

You are a whore, Ike, because you sin against God. Never been
cleansed of all unrighteousness because you are not prepared to offer
up to Him yourself as a living sacrifice, as you should, you heathen.

I know it ain't part of the Lutheran sinner program.

"The real definition of a sinner is a whore."

Michael Christ

[duke]

On Sat, 4 May 2013 13:02:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On May 5, 3:25�am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 May 2013 18:26:05 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>>
>> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >The real definition of a sinner is a whore.
>
>Dukester wrote:
>> Then you are a whore because Heb 4:15 said that only Jesus never sinned.
>
>Stubborn ignorant 'head and heart in the tiny box of the catholic
>club' fellow.

Wouldn't trade with you no how. I follow the Jesus of the bible. I'm not sure
what you follow but it isn't Christian.

[GSI]

On 2013-05-05 09:30:16 +0000, Ike said:

> 1Jn 1:
> 8 � If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth
> is not in us.

Why?

Can anyone explain what this means, why "the truth is
not in us" - if we say we have no sin?

(In order to answer correctly, one needs to understand
what "sin" is.)

[Michael Christ]

On May 6, 5:29 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 4 May 2013 13:02:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>

> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 5, 3:25 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 3 May 2013 18:26:05 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>
> >> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >The real definition of a sinner is a whore.
>
> >Dukester wrote:
> >> Then you are a whore because Heb 4:15 said that only Jesus never sinned.
>
> >Stubborn ignorant 'head and heart in the tiny box of the catholic
> >club' fellow.
>
> Wouldn't trade with you no how.  I follow the Jesus of the bible.  I'm not sure
> what you follow but it isn't Christian.

It isn't Catholic. :-). Thank God for that 'indulgence'.

This isn't Catholic also...

"The real definition of a sinner is a whore".

Also this isn't Catholic...

"Then there is repentance...real repentance (Job repentance, Peter
repentance, Isaiah repentance, Paul repentance), not man-made
christian repentance."

...because it is Christian.




Michael Christ

[Ike]

On 5/5/2013 9:19 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On May 5, 5:30 pm, Ike <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 5/3/2013 9:26 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>
>>> The real definition of a sinner is a whore.
>
> (snip a bit of Ike bullshit)
>
> Ike wrote:
>> 1Jn 1:
>> 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth
>> is not in us.
>>
>> A Christian...
>>
>> 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our
>> sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>
>> Ike
>

> Amen. Imagine that, the Lord who created the universe after we repent...


And then the Antichristian went into his "bring back the law" tap dance.

Bad Antichristian.

Ike

[Ike]

On 5/5/2013 9:06 AM, Michael Antichrist wrote...

...nothing of any consequence to anyone, especially a Christian.

Meanwhile, Ike wrote of the truth, quoting...

[snip Satan's usual outcry against the Word]

Ike

[Ike]

On 5/5/2013 7:56 PM, Michael Antichrist wrote

> "Then there is repentance...real repentance (Job repentance, Peter
> repentance, Isaiah repentance, Paul repentance), not man-made
> christian repentance."

Notice how the Antichristian keeps trying to relate Old Testament
figures to New Testament figures, and the old concept of "repentance" to
the new concept of "repentance."

He just can't fathom "old bottles for old wine and new bottles for new
wine," and that the New Testament is COMPLETELY THE OPPOSITE of the Old.

Poor God-damned (literally) ignorant sot.

Ike

[Michael Christ]

(snip Ike sin preservation theology)

God created man.

Water is wet.

Ike is fighting God.

And...

The real definition of a sinner is a whore.

Michael Christ

[duke]

On Sun, 5 May 2013 16:56:36 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On May 6, 5:29�am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 4 May 2013 13:02:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>>
>> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On May 5, 3:25 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 3 May 2013 18:26:05 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>>
>> >> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >The real definition of a sinner is a whore.
>>
>> >Dukester wrote:
>> >> Then you are a whore because Heb 4:15 said that only Jesus never sinned.
>>
>> >Stubborn ignorant 'head and heart in the tiny box of the catholic
>> >club' fellow.
>>
>> Wouldn't trade with you no how. �I follow the Jesus of the bible. �I'm not sure
>> what you follow but it isn't Christian.
>
>It isn't Catholic. :-). Thank God for that 'indulgence'.

If it isn't Catholic, you're not following the Jesus of the bible.

[Michael Christ]

You have been duped by man-made religion.

But...only because it 'suits' you.




Michael Christ

[Ike]

On 5/6/2013 10:06 AM, Michael Antichrist wrote:
> (snip Ike sin preservation theology)
>
> God created man.
>
> Water is wet.
>
> Ike is fighting God.

...said the antichristian cultist.

Ike

[Ike]

...said the Sardine to the Thyatiran.

Ike

[duke]

On Mon, 6 May 2013 13:53:22 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:


>> If it isn't Catholic, you're not following the Jesus of the bible.

>You have been duped by man-made religion.

I refuse to follow your screwed up religion.

[Ike]

On 5/7/2013 11:25 AM, duke wrote:
> On Mon, 6 May 2013 13:53:22 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
> <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> If it isn't Catholic, you're not following the Jesus of the bible.
>> You have been duped by man-made religion.
>
> I refuse to follow your screwed up religion.

Even his "screwed up religion" is a lot closer to the truth than your
legalistic cult lies, Antichristian.

(Not that Dupe is actually a Catholic.)

Ike

[duke]

I'f mine is legalistic, then the world is full on one version of God. So if
you're isn't, you get a new version with every individual. So which ONE of you
individuals is right?

[Ike]

On 5/7/2013 4:38 PM, duke wrote:
> On Tue, 07 May 2013 12:43:13 -0400, Ike <xhermanei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/7/2013 11:25 AM, duke wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6 May 2013 13:53:22 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>>> <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> If it isn't Catholic, you're not following the Jesus of the bible.
>>>> You have been duped by man-made religion.
>>>
>>> I refuse to follow your screwed up religion.
>>
>> Even his "screwed up religion" is a lot closer to the truth than your
>> legalistic cult lies, Antichristian.
>>
>> (Not that Dupe is actually a Catholic.)
>

> I'f mine is legalistic...

???

I said HIS was legalistic, moron.

Yours is just ritualistic, which is just about as bad, as it adds all
matter of non-biblical overhead to the Gospel, and injects a lot of
heathen theology into the mix, like the Babylonian "Queen of heaven"
blasphemies.

Ike

[duke]

On Tue, 07 May 2013 17:44:42 -0400, Ike <xhermanei...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/7/2013 4:38 PM, duke wrote:
>> On Tue, 07 May 2013 12:43:13 -0400, Ike <xhermanei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/7/2013 11:25 AM, duke wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 6 May 2013 13:53:22 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>>>> <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> If it isn't Catholic, you're not following the Jesus of the bible.
>>>>> You have been duped by man-made religion.
>>>>
>>>> I refuse to follow your screwed up religion.
>>>
>>> Even his "screwed up religion" is a lot closer to the truth than your
>>> legalistic cult lies, Antichristian.
>>>
>>> (Not that Dupe is actually a Catholic.)
>>
>> I'f mine is legalistic...
>
>???
>
>I said HIS was legalistic, moron.

You said "your legalistic cult lies" and I'm RCC, so it's mine also. Would you
like to try another lie?

>Yours is just ritualistic, which is just about as bad,

What's your objection with rituals? Said rituals come form Jesus Christ.

> as it adds all
>matter of non-biblical overhead to the Gospel, and injects a lot of
>heathen theology into the mix, like the Babylonian "Queen of heaven"
>blasphemies.

Rev 5 clearly stated that the son who will rule with an iron rod has a mother
that is queen of heaven. Heeheehee.

[Ike]

Where is the word "queen" anywhere in Revelation 5?

Ike

[duke]

Are we playing "strong's" again, ike? Rev 12 (not 5) talks of a woman with a
crown of stars, who's son will rule the world with an iron rod. Guess who those
country folk are, ike.

Heeheehee. You're too easy, ike. All you can do is catch typos.

[Ike]

First, notice that the fool changed passages, as if no one would notice,
as if the "woman" in Revelation 5 is the same woman in Revelation 12.

It's not.

Second, the fool doesn't know one woman from the other.

In Rev 5, the "woman" is Israel, as represented by Mary.

In Rev 12, the "woman" is the Church, as a unified whole, and NOT MARY.

So that's 12 stars (rulers) from the Israelites, and 12 from the
Christians, to make 24, as in the "twenty and four elders, who represent
both halves of the whole formed by what "was" and what "is" (with "what
is to be" yet to come).

This is also represented in the New Jerusalem figure, in which the
twelve gates are named for the tribes of Israel, and the twelve
foundation stones being named for the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

Again, 24.

Let me know when you get a clue that you don't have a clue, oh, clueless
one.

Ike

[duke]

Yep, make a simple typo that traditionally and did blow your mind. Meant Rev
12:5 but typed Rev 5. Your tiny mind is easily challenged, ike.

>It's not.
>Second, the fool doesn't know one woman from the other.
>In Rev 5, the "woman" is Israel, as represented by Mary.
>In Rev 12, the "woman" is the Church, as a unified whole, and NOT MARY.

Go ahead and continue to hang yourself.

And sorry, Mary as Queen of Heaven had a son that rules the world with an iron
rod. So it's very, very easy to say "I'm right and YOU'RE wrong.

>So that's 12 stars (rulers) from the Israelites, and 12 from the
>Christians, to make 24, as in the "twenty and four elders, who represent
>both halves of the whole formed by what "was" and what "is" (with "what
>is to be" yet to come).

>This is also represented in the New Jerusalem figure, in which the
>twelve gates are named for the tribes of Israel, and the twelve
>foundation stones being named for the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
>Again, 24.

12 gates, 12 tribes, 12 apostles. It could go on and on and on.

12 - (Twelve) - THERE WERE Twelve Tribes of Israel who were the sons of Jacob.
When Jacob gave his blessing to his twelve sons, he was referring not only to
twelve individuals, but also to the development of twelve attributes to be
awakened in the human soul. These paralleled the twelve characteristics of the
twelve signs of the zodiac (Genesis 49:1-28). The work of these twelve sons
dominated most of the Old Testament. Each tribe expressed the qualities of one
sign of the zodiac and responded to a certain number. No tribe was wholly good
or bad. These twelve signs and their corresponding numbers are operative in the
lives of every individual, for each person indeed is a miniature universe.

Jesus chose to have twelve apostles. These also relate in character to the
twelve signs of the zodiac to make a complete gathering of types of people in
the inner circle of followers of Jesus. Thus the vibration al force under the
number 12 belongs to the developed soul who has accumulated unusual inner
strength through many and varied experiences.

>Let me know when you get a clue that you don't have a clue, oh, clueless
>one.

I already made my case, non-Christian.


>
>Ike

[Ike]

You're hanging YOURSELF, Babylonian: "Mary" isn't the "Queen of Heaven;"
THE CHURCH IS.

YOURS is the projection of the Assyro-Babylonian "whore" in a revived
form, the "anti-Mary."

>> So that's 12 stars (rulers) from the Israelites, and 12 from the
>> Christians, to make 24, as in the "twenty and four elders, who represent
>> both halves of the whole formed by what "was" and what "is" (with "what
>> is to be" yet to come).
>
>> This is also represented in the New Jerusalem figure, in which the
>> twelve gates are named for the tribes of Israel, and the twelve
>> foundation stones being named for the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
>> Again, 24.
>
> 12 gates, 12 tribes, 12 apostles. It could go on and on and on.

And the point went right over the moron's head, as usual.

The gates are named for the 12 tribes of Israel, NOT the 12 Apostles.

The foundation stones are named for the 12 Apostles, NOT the 12 tribes
of Israel.

Together, the 12 Patriarchs of Israel and the 12 Apostles make up THE 24
ELDERS.

[snip the rest of the pointless drivel]

>> Let me know when you get a clue that you don't have a clue, oh, clueless
>> one.
>
> I already made my case, non-Christian.

Yeah...that you're totally ignorant of scripture, as always.

Ike

[duke]

On Thu, 23 May 2013 05:58:50 -0400, Ike <xhermanei...@gmail.com> wrote:

>You're hanging YOURSELF, Babylonian: "Mary" isn't the "Queen of Heaven;"
>THE CHURCH IS.

Sorry, in those days, the King's mother is the Queen.