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Michael Christ

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May 16, 2012, 8:56:58 PM5/16/12
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related

Some of these images are crazy.

Brought me to tears that is for sure.

Oh hell what kind of world is it that we would let this happen.

How I wish I could be more than what I am.

Oh Lord make me more than what I am!!!



Michael Christ

duke

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He gave you everything you need to do that yourself. Mat 25:31-46 If he gave
us a perfect life, we would never die.



duke - American American

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Barry OGrady

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May 17, 2012, 7:25:06 AM5/17/12
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On Thu, 17 May 2012 05:53:49 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 16 May 2012 17:56:58 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
><jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related
>>
>>Some of these images are crazy.
>>
>>Brought me to tears that is for sure.
>>
>>Oh hell what kind of world is it that we would let this happen.
>>
>>How I wish I could be more than what I am.
>>
>>Oh Lord make me more than what I am!!!
>>Michael Christ
>
>He gave you everything you need to do that yourself.

According to the wholly babbel God took everyting away.

>Mat 25:31-46 If he gave
>us a perfect life, we would never die.

And God would be bored again.

>duke - American American

=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=
God is a spirit. 0% proof!

francis

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May 17, 2012, 9:24:59 AM5/17/12
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On May 16, 6:56 pm, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
The "I" Must Die!

In as much as i can 'see',
That which is of the "I(ego,id,self,pride)" in me,

So it is i yearn, and to Our Father cry,
For deliverance from all that is of the "I".

The "I", born of "imag"ination and selfish desire,
As lust, greed, and pride, stoked a consuming fire!

A fire burning out of control, as "I" leads the way,
It's smoke concealing the fleshly mind that leads one astray.

Yet even in the smoke, searing heat, and blindness of 'sight',
Truth can pierce the blackness of darkness, revealing "The Light"!

And nothing can hide from "The Light", so "Light" reveals the "I",
Allowing one to "see" clearly, and clearly the "I" must die.

But to live, yet die, seems an impossible task,
And so we need of "Our Father", the impossible to ask.

Help me to "deny myself(die to "I",ego,id,self,pride)" Father!

And as HE Helps, HE reveals more and more of "The Selfless One".

The One who testified, "I can do nothing of Mine own self"!

The One Who leads His brethren on "The Way to The Truth of The Life".

The One Who was and is The Messiah, The Son of The One and Only True
GOD, Father(Creator) of ALL!

The Messiah, "The Light of the world"!

And as The Messiah desired above all else, so also will His brethren
desire above all else, "Father, not my("I") will, But THY Will Be
Done".......

The poem i have recorded above was begun in Creel, Chih, Mexico in
'92, a time when i sought to live and experience a simple and
spiritual life. Left Mexico in '93, yet returned in '04.

Then on 1/26/05 the poem was completed, and 'completion' is near for
each and every one of us.

And for "the poor and needy" son's of GOD, thankfully so.

For "I" can't!

"Our Father", HE CAN!

And soon and very soon, translated!

"Corruptible to incorruptible" indeed and Truth.......

Home, Home at last.......

Forever free from the "I(ego,id,self,pride)".......

All Thanks and Praise Be Unto "Our Father".......

And while there is breath(spirit) there is hope many will "see",
"see" the "I" for what it is, and then desire to be set free!

And that Spirit that was in The Messiah can "set you free, free
indeed"!

So, There Is Hope!

For Miracles do happen.......

Hope is there would be those who experience The Miracle that is
receiving "a love of The Truth" for they will "see" The Light that is
The Messiah, which clearly reveals that The Life is of The Spirit(not
seen with the natural eye), and most certainly not of the flesh or
fleshly mind("I",ego,id,self,pride).......

Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(darkness) that is of this world and
it's systems of religion, for "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is
under the control of the evil one" indeed and Truth.......(1John5:19)

Truth IS, a lie never was and is not.......

Abide in Truth.......

(i have returned to this place they call the u.s.a. and am currently
on what i like to call a no-mad-ness journey. Thankfully i am but "an
alien and pilgrim while on this earth". Yet a return to the simplicity
that is rural Mexico would be welcomed, however, i realize that in all
things it must be "Father(Creator) not my will, But THY Will Be
Done.......)

Father Help! and HE does.......

asimpleandspirituallife.org

http://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Simple-and-Spiritual-Life/208339295850609

Barry OGrady

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May 17, 2012, 9:41:59 AM5/17/12
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On Thu, 17 May 2012 06:24:59 -0700 (PDT), francis
<gfra...@gmail.com> wrote:

>The "I" Must Die!

Don't just talk about it. Kill yourself already!

Rod

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May 17, 2012, 10:00:33 AM5/17/12
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So...where are you now and what are you doing ?

duke

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May 17, 2012, 4:35:02 PM5/17/12
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On Thu, 17 May 2012 21:25:06 +1000, Barry OGrady <ath...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2012 05:53:49 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 16 May 2012 17:56:58 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>><jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related
>>>
>>>Some of these images are crazy.
>>>
>>>Brought me to tears that is for sure.
>>>
>>>Oh hell what kind of world is it that we would let this happen.
>>>
>>>How I wish I could be more than what I am.
>>>
>>>Oh Lord make me more than what I am!!!
>>>Michael Christ
>>
>>He gave you everything you need to do that yourself.
>
>According to the wholly babbel God took everyting away.

Everyting [sic] away?

>>Mat 25:31-46 If he gave
>>us a perfect life, we would never die.
>And God would be bored again.

He wants your decision.

Michael Christ

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May 17, 2012, 4:36:22 PM5/17/12
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> http://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Simple-and-Spiritual-Life/20833929585...

Has the "I" died, Francis?



Michael Christ

Michael Christ

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May 17, 2012, 4:35:08 PM5/17/12
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On May 17, 8:53 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2012 17:56:58 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>
> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related
>
> >Some of these images are crazy.
>
> >Brought me to tears that is for sure.
>
> >Oh hell what kind of world is it that we would let this happen.
>
> >How I wish I could be more than what I am.
>
> >Oh Lord make me more than what I am!!!
> >Michael Christ

Duke wrote:
> He gave you everything you need to do that yourself.

I can do nothing in myself, that is why I ask the Lord.


Michael Christ

Barry OGrady

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May 17, 2012, 7:26:14 PM5/17/12
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On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:35:08 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On May 17, 8:53 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 May 2012 17:56:58 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>>
>> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related
>>
>> >Some of these images are crazy.
>>
>> >Brought me to tears that is for sure.
>>
>> >Oh hell what kind of world is it that we would let this happen.
>>
>> >How I wish I could be more than what I am.
>>
>> >Oh Lord make me more than what I am!!!
>> >Michael Christ
>
>Duke wrote:
>> He gave you everything you need to do that yourself.
>
>I can do nothing in myself, that is why I ask the Lord.

Then when you fail you blame the Lord.

>Michael Christ

Michael Christ

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May 17, 2012, 9:34:23 PM5/17/12
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Your criteria is not the Lord's criteria.



Michael Christ

Barry OGrady

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May 17, 2012, 10:04:11 PM5/17/12
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Thank you.

Linda Lee

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May 18, 2012, 2:33:50 AM5/18/12
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On May 17, 9:41 am, Barry OGrady <athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 May 2012 06:24:59 -0700 (PDT), francis
>
> <gfranc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >The "I" Must Die!
>
> Don't just talk about it. Kill yourself already!
>
> =-=-=-=-==-=-=-=
> God is a spirit. 0% proof!


Why don't you shut the hell up?

Linda Lee

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May 18, 2012, 2:35:51 AM5/18/12
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On May 16, 8:56 pm, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Michael Not-Christ


We don't pray to God on the internet, Michael Not-Christ. That is not
prayer, and God surely doesn't hear such false prayers. What you're
doing is grandstanding for an audience. Christ said people like you
are hypocrites.

In Matt. 6:5 Yahashua` the Messiah said, "And when thou prayest, thou
shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in
the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be
seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward."

If you ever really want God to hear you, this is the way Christ taught
us to pray:

Matt. 6:6 "But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and
when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret;
and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."

It's very ironic that you were recently preaching to shut up and
listen to God.



Baba

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May 18, 2012, 4:44:14 AM5/18/12
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Be gent(i)le, don't be so quick to cast that stone.. I don't think
Mike was praying but rather expressing
bewilderment and impotence. Michael isn't a drama queen he's just
sensitive (BWAHAHAHA!!!:-)
No irony at all. In publicly accepting his personal defeat by the
world he is urging us to listen to
and obey the Will of the Lord.

But seriously, Linda. Do you *really* *go into your closet* when you
pray?
Crowded in there? Don't trip on your spikes.
How about a little poetic license?
When you pray it's between you and God and the closet is figurative.
Figure if you throw Matt 18:20 into the argument (and if your'e
*really* praying you have to)
then you better have a walk-in closet or it's going to get really
crowded in there.

So, essentially you're saying that Mike isn't in the closet...
Well then alright! That's exactly what Michael has been saying. Let go
of your self
PUT your this and your that, your book and your hat, your make-up and
mask
and oh-so-important task ("I'm late, I'm late, for a very important
date!")
IN THE CLOSET and get down with the BEingness, the OOoomph, the living
God.

See?

What say you, Mike?
You in the closet...praying or anything?

*¿*

Barry OGrady

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May 18, 2012, 6:07:24 AM5/18/12
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There is no hell to shut up.

H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.

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May 18, 2012, 6:15:08 AM5/18/12
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On 5/17/2012 9:24 AM, francis wrote:
> On May 16, 6:56 pm, Michael Christ<jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related
>>
>> Some of these images are crazy.
>>
>> Brought me to tears that is for sure.
>>
>> Oh hell what kind of world is it that we would let this happen.
>>
>> How I wish I could be more than what I am.
>>
>> Oh Lord make me more than what I am!!!
>>
>> Michael Christ
>
> The "I" Must Die!

Nonsense.

There is a time for "I," and a time for "we" (as God is both "I" and "We").

What did Jesus say?

"Love thy neighbor as thyself."

How are you going to even love your neighbor if you don't love yourself?

No, this nonsense you're spouting is from the lies of the self-annulling
Ascetics.

Ike


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H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.

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May 18, 2012, 6:16:32 AM5/18/12
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On 5/17/2012 4:35 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On May 17, 8:53 pm, duke<duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 May 2012 17:56:58 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>>
>> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related
>>
>>> Some of these images are crazy.
>>
>>> Brought me to tears that is for sure.
>>
>>> Oh hell what kind of world is it that we would let this happen.
>>
>>> How I wish I could be more than what I am.
>>
>>> Oh Lord make me more than what I am!!!
>>> Michael Christ
>
> Duke wrote:
>> He gave you everything you need to do that yourself.
>
> I can do nothing in myself, that is why I ask the Lord.

...who doesn't respond to you because you're not listening.

H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.

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May 18, 2012, 6:17:39 AM5/18/12
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Neither is yours.

Rod

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May 18, 2012, 1:09:38 PM5/18/12
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She's a real sweetheart isn't she ??

<smiling....>


--

Mark_12:30 (KJV) And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy
heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy
strength: this is the first commandment.

Mark_12:31 (KJV) And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love
thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than
these.


Joh 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also
I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold,
and one shepherd.

Joh 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life,
that I might take it again.

Joh 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have
power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This
commandment have I received of my Father.




Joh_12:49 (KJV) For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which
sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should
speak.

Joh_12:50 (KJV) And I know that his commandment is life everlasting:
whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

Joh_13:34 (KJV) A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one
another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Joh_14:31 (KJV) But that the world may know that I love the Father;
and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go
hence.

Joh_15:12 (KJV) This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I
have loved you.




Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with
all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.

Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour
as thyself.

Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.



1Ti_5:1 (KJV) Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and
the younger men as brethren;



Heb_7:3 (KJV) Without father, without mother, without descent, having
neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son
of God; abideth a priest continually.




Heb_12:9 (KJV) Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which
corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in
subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?




Jas_2:21 (KJV) Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he
had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?



1Jn_2:13 (KJV) I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him
that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have
overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye
have known the Father.



Linda Lee

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May 18, 2012, 4:06:08 PM5/18/12
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A warning is not 'casting stones'. Christ said those who pray publicly
are not heard by God; their reward is to be seen of men.

Baba

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May 18, 2012, 4:27:10 PM5/18/12
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A "warning"? LOL!
Oh, you mean as in taking Mike aside, away from earshot of the
"congregation"
and admonishing him privately for swaying from accepted doctrine?
I see...

Well..methinks you miss the subtle meaning in both
Christ's and Michael's words.

*¿*

Linda Lee

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May 18, 2012, 4:37:05 PM5/18/12
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If you think this is a church congregation, you're sadly mistaken.

>
> Well..methinks you miss the subtle meaning in both
> Christ's and Michael's words.

I think you're encouraging Mike's error, and you're doing him no
favors by doing so. I suppose you'll also encourage him in his efforts
to get others to reject the Scriptures and listen to him only as he so
often does. He is not 'anointed', and he is not Christ.

Michael Christ

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On May 18, 8:15 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeicklebo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 5/17/2012 9:24 AM, francis wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 16, 6:56 pm, Michael Christ<jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related
>
> >> Some of these images are crazy.
>
> >> Brought me to tears that is for sure.
>
> >> Oh hell what kind of world is it that we would let this happen.
>
> >> How I wish I could be more than what I am.
>
> >> Oh Lord make me more than what I am!!!
>
> >> Michael Christ
>
> > The "I" Must Die!


Ike wrote:
> Nonsense.

> There is a time for "I," and a time for "we" (as God is both "I" and "We").

> What did Jesus say?

> "Love thy neighbor as thyself."

> How are you going to even love your neighbor if you don't love yourself?

That is humanism, human rationalisation. Dr Phil would love you.

Everybody already loves themselves, that is the problem, that is the
problem with the whole selfish world.

Love thy neighbor AS thyself. For that to happen you have to die to
self; the old nature has to crucified and raised up to new life in
Christ Jesus. That can only happen through the total surrender of
your life to the Lord Jesus...as is right and only a 'reasonable'
service. You need Him to show you what you must do in your daily
life...and then do it.

You need to be quiet and listen (to God), and to shut up and hear
(Him), Ike

It is all very very simple.


Michael Christ

Michael Christ

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May 18, 2012, 7:48:55 PM5/18/12
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Amen.

Baba wrote:
> See?
>
> What say you, Mike?
> You in the closet...praying or anything?
>
> *¿*

I found the 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related' video confronting and very upsetting
and posted it on impulse. I thought about the pathetic ease in which
we live, yet, to go ahead and set my daily life on some personal quest
to address human suffering is fatal. One must be still and know what
the Lord's will is above all else before moving forward; a lamp unto
my feet, a light unto my path

I would love to do something. I am a registered nurse I could go
somewhere, anywhere, it would seem, and do something greatly more
useful that tending spoilt ungrateful middle class whims in the health
system in which I now work, but the Lord wants me to sit and wait on
Him. While my life has undergone many changes, waiting on Him is
something that I have been doing for a long long time. He allows me
to express myself a little on the newsgroups as a temporal salve in a
sense to partially accommodate my desire to do more. He is good.

It is an issue of maturing and maturity. He knows what is best.


Michael Christ


Barry OGrady

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On Fri, 18 May 2012 16:19:52 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On May 18, 8:15�pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeicklebo...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>> On 17/5/2012 9:24 AM, francis wrote:
>>
>> > On May 16, 6:56 pm, Michael Christ<jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related
>>
>> >> Some of these images are crazy.
>>
>> >> Brought me to tears that is for sure.
>>
>> >> Oh hell what kind of world is it that we would let this happen.
>>
>> >> How I wish I could be more than what I am.
>>
>> >> Oh Lord make me more than what I am!!!
>>
>> >> Michael Christ
>>
>> > The "I" Must Die!
>
>
>Ike wrote:
>> Nonsense.
>
>> There is a time for "I," and a time for "we" (as God is both "I" and "We").
>
>> What did Jesus say?
>
>> "Love thy neighbor as thyself."
>
>> How are you going to even love your neighbor if you don't love yourself?
>
>That is humanism, human rationalisation. Dr Phil would love you.

Dr Phil is a Christian.

>Everybody already loves themselves, that is the problem, that is the
>problem with the whole selfish world.

We were created by a selfish deity.

>Love thy neighbor AS thyself. For that to happen you have to die to
>self; the old nature has to crucified and raised up to new life in
>Christ Jesus. That can only happen through the total surrender of
>your life to the Lord Jesus...as is right and only a 'reasonable'
>service. You need Him to show you what you must do in your daily
>life...and then do it.
>
>You need to be quiet and listen (to God), and to shut up and hear
>(Him), Ike

God is everything to everybody.

>It is all very very simple.

Too complex for you.

Take your own advice.

>Michael Christ

Barry OGrady

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On Fri, 18 May 2012 16:48:55 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On May 18, 6:44�ｿｽpm, Baba <ramd...@inorbit.com> wrote:
>> On May 18, 2:35�ｿｽam, Linda Lee <lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On May 16, 8:56�ｿｽpm, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related
>>
>> > > Some of these images are crazy.
>>
>> > > Brought me to tears that is for sure.
>>
>> > > Oh hell what kind of world is it that we would let this happen.
>>
>> > > How I wish I could be more than what I am.
>>
>> > > Oh Lord make me more than what I am!!!
>>
>> > > Michael Not-Christ
>>
>> > We don't pray to God on the internet, Michael Not-Christ. �ｿｽThat is not
>> > prayer, and God surely doesn't hear such false prayers. �ｿｽWhat you're
>> > doing is grandstanding for an audience. Christ said people like you
>> > are hypocrites.
>>
>> > In Matt. 6:5 Yahashua` the Messiah said, "And when thou prayest, thou
>> > shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in
>> > the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be
>> > seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward."
>>
>> > If you ever really want God to hear you, this is the way Christ taught
>> > us to pray:
>>
>> > Matt. 6:6 �ｿｽ"But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and
>> > when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret;
>> > and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."
>>
>> > It's very ironic that you were recently preaching to shut up and
>> > listen to God.
>>
>> Be gent(i)le, don't be so quick to cast that stone.. �ｿｽI don't think
>> Mike was praying but rather expressing
>> bewilderment and impotence. Michael isn't a drama queen he's just
>> sensitive �ｿｽ(BWAHAHAHA!!!:-)
>> *�ｿｽ*
>
>I found the 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?
>v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related' video confronting and very upsetting
>and posted it on impulse. I thought about the pathetic ease in which
>we live, yet, to go ahead and set my daily life on some personal quest
>to address human suffering is fatal. One must be still and know what
>the Lord's will is above all else before moving forward; a lamp unto
>my feet, a light unto my path
>
>I would love to do something. I am a registered nurse I could go
>somewhere, anywhere, it would seem, and do something greatly more
>useful that tending spoilt ungrateful middle class whims in the health
>system in which I now work, but the Lord wants me to sit and wait on
>Him. While my life has undergone many changes, waiting on Him is
>something that I have been doing for a long long time. He allows me
>to express myself a little on the newsgroups as a temporal salve in a
>sense to partially accommodate my desire to do more. He is good.
>
>It is an issue of maturing and maturity. He knows what is best.

Why don't you ask the Lord to do the things you can't?

Baba

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That's what you seem to think, that this is a congregation
and the congregants need to agree with your eisegesis.
Wrong.
>
>
> > Well..methinks you miss the subtle meaning in both
> > Christ's and Michael's words.
>
> I think you're encouraging Mike's error, and you're doing him no
> favors by doing so. I suppose you'll also encourage him in his efforts
> to get others to reject the Scriptures and listen to him only as he so
> often does. He is not 'anointed', and he is not Christ.

You suppose a lot.
I've never seen Mike encourage others to listen only to him
nor to reject Scripture.
What I have seen Mike do is encourage others to not be limited
to Scripture or doctrine in their relationship with God.
I see no error in that.

*¿*

Baba

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On May 18, 7:48 pm, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
'Father knows Best', Indeed.
But on the other hand, has it ever occurred to you that while you've
been waiting
on the Lord maybe He's been waiting for you?
He delt the cards, play the hand. He gave you the tools, use them.
When?
Thou shalt not procrastinate. When He takes you dancing
you gotta let Him lead, even when you don't like the music
or think it's appropriate for the moment....

*¿*

Barry OGrady

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On Fri, 18 May 2012 18:55:51 -0700 (PDT), Baba <ram...@inorbit.com>
wrote:

>'Father knows Best', Indeed.
>But on the other hand, has it ever occurred to you that while you've
>been waiting
>on the Lord maybe He's been waiting for you?
>He delt the cards, play the hand. He gave you the tools, use them.
>When?
>Thou shalt not procrastinate. When He takes you dancing
>you gotta let Him lead, even when you don't like the music
>or think it's appropriate for the moment....

That sound like a recipe for never doing anything.

Michael Christ

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On May 19, 11:16 am, Barry OGrady <athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 May 2012 16:48:55 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 18, 6:44 pm, Baba <ramd...@inorbit.com> wrote:
> >> On May 18, 2:35 am, Linda Lee <lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On May 16, 8:56 pm, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related
>
> >> > > Some of these images are crazy.
>
> >> > > Brought me to tears that is for sure.
>
> >> > > Oh hell what kind of world is it that we would let this happen.
>
> >> > > How I wish I could be more than what I am.
>
> >> > > Oh Lord make me more than what I am!!!
>
> >> > > Michael Not-Christ
>
> >> > We don't pray to God on the internet, Michael Not-Christ. That is not
> >> > prayer, and God surely doesn't hear such false prayers. What you're
> >> > doing is grandstanding for an audience. Christ said people like you
> >> > are hypocrites.
>
> >> > In Matt. 6:5 Yahashua` the Messiah said, "And when thou prayest, thou
> >> > shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in
> >> > the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be
> >> > seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward."
>
> >> > If you ever really want God to hear you, this is the way Christ taught
> >> > us to pray:
>
> >> > Matt. 6:6 "But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and
> >> > when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret;
> >> > and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."
>
> >> > It's very ironic that you were recently preaching to shut up and
> >> > listen to God.
>
> >> Be gent(i)le, don't be so quick to cast that stone.. I don't think
> >> Mike was praying but rather expressing
> >> bewilderment and impotence. Michael isn't a drama queen he's just
> >> sensitive (BWAHAHAHA!!!:-)
> >> * *
>
> >I found the 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?
> >v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related' video confronting and very upsetting
> >and posted it on impulse. I thought about the pathetic ease in which
> >we live, yet, to go ahead and set my daily life on some personal quest
> >to address human suffering is fatal.  One must be still and know what
> >the Lord's will is above all else before moving forward; a lamp unto
> >my feet, a light unto my path
>
> >I would love to do something.  I am a registered nurse I could go
> >somewhere, anywhere, it would seem, and do something greatly more
> >useful that tending spoilt ungrateful middle class whims in the health
> >system in which I now work, but the Lord wants me to sit and wait on
> >Him.  While my life has undergone many changes, waiting on Him is
> >something that I have been doing for a long long time.  He allows me
> >to express myself a little on the newsgroups as a temporal salve in a
> >sense to partially accommodate my desire to do more.  He is good.
>
> >It is an issue of maturing and maturity.  He knows what is best.

Baz wrote:
> Why don't you ask the Lord to do the things you can't?

Well I can't do anything, Barry.

Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me,
and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye
can do nothing.



Michael Christ



Barry OGrady

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On Sat, 19 May 2012 00:54:40 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Barry Christ wrote:
>> Why don't you ask the Lord to do the things you can't?
>
>Well I can't do anything, Barry.

Why not ask the Lord to do everything?

>Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me,
>and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye
>can do nothing.

That was John talking to God.
John was saying without him God can do nothing.
God can do nothing without us, which is why before medical
science our lives were much shorter and harsher.
Most of our time is spent trying to overcome God's limitations.

We created God. Now we must do God's work.
You know that, for that is what you do.
You wouldn't be telling people what to do if you thought
God could do it.

Michael Christ

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May 19, 2012, 4:40:14 AM5/19/12
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Yes, but no, not for me that advice.

It is not that I am idle, in fact I am very busy each day. I am doing
lots of things that I haven't done before and the things that I am
doing are evolving. Anyway, with everything else aside, I know my
time, or maybe just a moment, has not come; a bit like in the latest
Karate Kid movie with the coat going on and off and so on...

I try to get it across to people that God is not a Bible to be tamed
by the human mind, that He is a Person, a real Person who everyone
needs to hear from in their daily life. They need to hear His will,
and then do it. It is not going to written in the Bible, it goes
beyond the Bible. The Bible is wonderful, but it is not God, it is
there as a means to bring people to God, to enter into a relationship
in spirit with Him. That has been a message that hasn't changed in
all my time on the newsgroups. It is the truth, He is not interested
in people striving to adhere to rules, He is only interested in an
intimate relationship that is second to none in your life.

He made the Way for that to happen...

Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that
we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

In this...

Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God,
that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto
God, which is your reasonable service.

In the reality...

Mar 10:27 And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is
impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.



Michael Christ

Barry OGrady

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On May 19, 11:55�am, Baba <ramd...@inorbit.com> wrote:

> 'Father knows Best', Indeed.
> But on the other hand, has it ever occurred to you that while you've
> been waiting on the Lord maybe He's been waiting for you?
> He delt the cards, play the hand. He gave you the tools, use them.
> When?
> Thou shalt not procrastinate. When He takes you dancing
> you gotta let Him lead, even when you don't like the music
> or think it's appropriate for the moment....

Wouldn't it be appropriate for God to use his awesome magical
powers to do everything that needs doing rather than assign
the work to inadequate humans?

Michael Christ

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May 19, 2012, 5:13:24 AM5/19/12
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Whatever I do is wrong in your eyes, Linda, and whatever you do is
right. Remember when Stephanos was your brother and Paul was a
heretic, could you be any more wrong?

You have to entertain the possibility that you can be wrong again, as
wrong as Saul was on the road to Damascus. He had to learn something,
and so do you. We all have to have a road to Damascus experience
where you haven't just got a few things wrong but that everything you
think is wrong. If it doesn't happen before you die it will most
certainly happen when you do!


Michael Christ


Michael Christ

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May 19, 2012, 5:18:34 AM5/19/12
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I just quoted a scripture especially for you regarding this
question...

Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me,
and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye
can do nothing.

Come on Baz, get with the programme.



Michael Christ

Michael Christ

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Sometimes Barry, for a lovely caring atheist, you can be cruel and
unnice and non fuzzy wuzzy warm feeling.



Michael Christ

Barry OGrady

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May 19, 2012, 5:41:47 AM5/19/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 02:13:24 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Whatever I do is wrong in your eyes, Linda, and whatever you do is
>right. Remember when Stephanos was your brother and Paul was a
>heretic, could you be any more wrong?

Linda has to entertain the possibility that she can be wrong again,
as wrong as Michael The Christ is in these groups.

>Michael Christ

Barry OGrady

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May 19, 2012, 5:49:00 AM5/19/12
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That was John talking to God.
John was saying without him God can do nothing.
God can do nothing without us, which is why before medical
science our lives were much shorter and harsher.
Most of our time is spent trying to overcome God's limitations.

We created God. Now we must do God's work.
You know that, for that is what you do.
You wouldn't be telling people what to do if you thought
God could do it.

>Come on Baz, get with the programme.

God needs a firmware update.

The did some amazing things to revitalise the Hubble Telescope.
Maybe something could be done to update God.

>Michael Christ

Barry OGrady

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May 19, 2012, 6:36:32 AM5/19/12
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The you must die so that the I and others can have a quieter
and more productive newsgroup.

Rod

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On 5/16/2012 7:56 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related
>
> Some of these images are crazy.
>
> Brought me to tears that is for sure.
>
> Oh hell what kind of world is it that we would let this happen.
>
> How I wish I could be more than what I am.
>
> Oh Lord make me more than what I am!!!
>
>
>
> Michael Christ


I watched the video, and it does seem to make
living pretty hopeless when you know that what
you were watching is ongoing, but you have to
keep it in perspective, and that it that the
video was created to make people AWARE of the
need to help these people and put an end to
the suffering.

Somehow, I believe that the video is pointed
at Christians and others of faith in God because
the atheists and Christians in name only sure as
heck aren't going to do a thing to end it.

It's up to you and me..

Linda Lee

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May 19, 2012, 9:33:47 AM5/19/12
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On May 19, 4:40 am, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> I try to get it across to people that God is not a Bible to be tamed
> by the human mind, that He is a Person, a real Person who everyone
> needs to hear from in their daily life.  They need to hear His will,
> and then do it. It is not going to written in the Bible, it goes
> beyond the Bible.

That those who are born again (i.e. born from above) will hear the
voice of God IS in the Bible:

MKJV Bible:
Joh 3:7 Do not marvel that I said to you, You must be born again.
Joh 3:8 The Spirit breathes where He desires, and _you hear His
voice,_ but you do not know from where He comes, and where He goes; so
is everyone who is born of the Spirit.

> The Bible is wonderful, but it is not God, it is
> there as a means to bring people to God, to enter into a relationship
> in spirit with Him.

Of course it is. I don't know what makes you think people worship the
Scriptures themselves INSTEAD OF GOD. The Scriptures have brought
more people to God than your messages have.

> That has been a message that hasn't changed in
> all my time on the newsgroups.


Your message is often very unclear. How about explaining why you've
named yourself Christ? It is offensive; there is only ONE Anointed
One, only one Christ.

"worker"

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May 19, 2012, 9:55:08 AM5/19/12
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"We created God. Now we must do God's work."

How do you propose to "prove" that if you please?

If you have none then it is an empty rhetorical gesture, no? Then your
theology is but of blind faith, no?

Atheists are often the first to evoke proof, but usually on final
examination have none.

Linda Lee

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May 19, 2012, 10:14:34 AM5/19/12
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On May 19, 5:13 am, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Funny how only you, Ike, and Pastor Dave have thrown that in my face,
and both of them have large egos, and both of them condemn other
Christians here as morons and liars. There's a group of Christians for
you to align yourself with. And you are the only one who has brought
it up repeatedly, so Congratulations. You, of course, have never ever
been wrong, is that right? The real Christians on this group have
been extremely gracious about it and have never condemned me for that,
nor have they even brought it up. But some people don't believe in
forgiveness of "sins" apparently, not that disbelief in Paul's
sincerity was a sin, and some people use my admission I feel I had
been wrong simply to win a debate. Some people have even commended me
for admitting I was wrong. And it did take some fortitude because
frankly I expected more people than you to harass me about it.

Since you appear to require an explanation, God does everything for a
reason, and although I asked several times for Him to tell me if I
were wrong about Paul's sincerity concerning his conversion, it was
allowed to continue here for about six years, and I believe His reason
for allowing me to publicly reject Paul while never losing an iota of
my faith in Christ was to show people that even without Paul's
writings, Christ's gospel in his own recorded words was complete and
perfect and wholly capable of saving. _I still believe some people
place far too much focus on Paul, rather than on Christ who said he
was to be our only teacher and guide_ Paul can be very astute about
much of the gospel, but his writings are not essential to obtaining
salvation, and I believe he added things that were simply his own
opinion about controlling the churches that I don't see in other NT
writings, things that Paul does not back up with the Hebrew Scriptures
as he does concerning most subjects, things like nature teaches us it
is shameful for a male to have long hair. Are male lions shameful? My
male cat doesn't look ashamed with his long fur.

How about explaining why you call yourself Christ? I've asked you
before and got no answer. That would go a long way towards my
understanding of you and would surely lead me to be less critical of
you. Or will you just insist on calling yourself Christ with no
explanation when it looks blasphemous and outrageous to others?

>
> You have to entertain the possibility that you can be wrong again, as
> wrong as Saul was on the road to Damascus.  He had to learn something,
> and so do you.

So enlighten me as to why you call yourself Christ.

> We all have to have a road to Damascus experience
> where you haven't just got a few things wrong but that everything you
> think is wrong.

Everything I think about Christ is NOT wrong. That's a lousy message
you try to foist on others, and it shows how egomaniacal you are.
They're all wrong; only you are right.

> If it doesn't happen before you die it will most
> certainly happen when you do!

I already have a personal relationship with Christ, Mike. You would
be very fortunate indeed to have experienced the miracles I've seen
him do for me and mine, some of which I've recounted here.

>
> Michael NOT-Christ


Linda Lee Christ
(See how that looks ludicrous, false, and egomaniacal? That's how you
look to me.)

pyotr filipivich

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May 19, 2012, 12:02:15 PM5/19/12
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The question remains who was "worker" addressing?
--
pyotr
After the war two Army Chaplains were mustering out. The one said to
the other "Chaplain, it has been a real pleasure serving God with you.
You in your way, and I in His."

duke

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On Fri, 18 May 2012 13:06:08 -0700 (PDT), Linda Lee <lindag...@juno.com>
wrote:
"IF" they pray only to be seen by men.

duke - American American

*****
2012 - end of an error
Vote Republican in 2012
*****

Barry OGrady

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You need to learn to quote properly with attributes if you
want replies.

Barry OGrady

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On Sat, 19 May 2012 09:02:15 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>>"We created God. Now we must do God's work."
>>
>>How do you propose to "prove" that if you please?
>>
>>If you have none then it is an empty rhetorical gesture, no? Then your
>>theology is but of blind faith, no?
>>
>>Atheists are often the first to evoke proof, but usually on final
>>examination have none.
>
> The question remains who was "worker" addressing?

Who are you addressing?

>--

Michael Christ

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On May 19, 8:36 pm, Barry OGrady <athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 02:29:44 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>
> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 19, 11:12 am, Barry OGrady <athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> >> Take your own advice.
>
Michael Christ wrote:
> >Sometimes Barry, for a lovely caring atheist, you can be cruel and
> >unnice and non fuzzy wuzzy warm feeling.

Barry wrote:
> The you must die so that the I and others can have a quieter
> and more productive newsgroup.

No, that is not much of an improvement.


Michael Christ

Michael Christ

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May 19, 2012, 9:20:42 PM5/19/12
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Hey Sis!! :-).

Not to me if it was true. If you are not a branch of the vine
(without the Lord you can do nothing) you are still what you were
originally born as...a 'Linda Lee'.

It is very hard to communicate with you because for a very long time
all you want to do is pump out your own context, your own personal
page Bible verses. That is why I remind you about 'Stephanos and
Paul', because you have to come to terms with the reality that you are
wrong again; not because I want to condemn you. In fact 'they' were
meant to happen for this very cause.

Since you are so determined to slam down endless Bible verses at will
and at whim it is about walking in the Spirit of Truth (truth) with me
if you want to understand me (which, I assure you with all certainty,
is prophetic of the Lord in the Spirit).

You state about me, "Your message is often very unclear" (to you that
is). Now in the vast majority of your responses to me you come out of
the stalls firing with both barrels as though you are perfectly clear
as to everything I say.

Can you see inequity/inequality there?

If you can't acknowledge a small thing (truth), then you cannot go on
to a greater thing (truth)...understanding this...

"You have to entertain the possibility that you can be wrong again, as
wrong as Saul was on the road to Damascus. He had to learn something,
and so do you. We all have to have a road to Damascus experience
where you haven't just got a few things wrong but that everything you
think is wrong. If it doesn't happen before you die it will most
certainly happen when you do!"



Michael Christ



Michael Christ

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May 19, 2012, 9:42:46 PM5/19/12
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On May 19, 11:21 pm, Rod <nhraf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/16/2012 7:56 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related
>
> > Some of these images are crazy.
>
> > Brought me to tears that is for sure.
>
> > Oh hell what kind of world is it that we would let this happen.
>
> > How I wish I could be more than what I am.
>
> > Oh Lord make me more than what I am!!!
>
> > Michael Christ

Rod wrote:
>    I watched the video, and it does seem to make
>    living pretty hopeless when you know that what
>    you were watching is ongoing, but you have to
>    keep it in perspective, and that it that the
>    video was created to make people AWARE of the
>    need to help these people and put an end to
>    the suffering.
>
>    Somehow, I believe that the video is pointed
>    at Christians and others of faith in God because
>    the atheists and Christians in name only sure as
>    heck aren't going to do a thing to end it.
>
>    It's up to you and me..

And I'm relying on you!!! :-).

Perspective...yes.

The suffering of people has always been since the fall. If God wanted
to 'fix' it all He could and would in an instant but it has to play
out.

Things are, believe it or not, as they are meant to be. Nevertheless
all you can be is receptive to the will of God in your life and see
where He takes you.

Still, imagine what God sees and has seen; it seems unimaginable.
Imagine all those babies and young children whisked away in the debris
during that big tsunami, not to mention everyone else. And what about
all the horrible vicious and ruthless things people do to one another,
be it in war or so called 'peace'.




Michael Christ

Barry OGrady

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It does seem God can't fix it. God is locked into a script that forces
him to do things in a set order.

>Things are, believe it or not, as they are meant to be.

Meant to be by an cruel and evil dictator God?

>Nevertheless
>all you can be is receptive to the will of God in your life and see
>where He takes you.

And if he takes you over a cliff?

>Still, imagine what God sees and has seen; it seems unimaginable.

Yet we must imagine for God exists only in our imagination.

>Imagine all those babies and young children whisked away in the debris
>during that big tsunami, not to mention everyone else. And what about
>all the horrible vicious and ruthless things people do to one another,
>be it in war or so called 'peace'.

And you are afraid that if you don't kiss God's arse he will do worse
things to you.
Now at least we know what your motivation is.

>Michael Christ

Barry OGrady

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May 19, 2012, 11:02:29 PM5/19/12
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That is not the way to suck up to God.
You must say that everything is wonderful and that you really
appreciate the way God abuses you.

>It is very hard to communicate with you because for a very long time
>all you want to do is pump out your own context, your own personal
>page Bible verses. That is why I remind you about 'Stephanos and
>Paul', because you have to come to terms with the reality that you are
>wrong again; not because I want to condemn you. In fact 'they' were
>meant to happen for this very cause.
>
>Since you are so determined to slam down endless Bible verses at will
>and at whim it is about walking in the Spirit of Truth (truth) with me
>if you want to understand me (which, I assure you with all certainty,
>is prophetic of the Lord in the Spirit).
>
>You state about me, "Your message is often very unclear" (to you that
>is). Now in the vast majority of your responses to me you come out of
>the stalls firing with both barrels as though you are perfectly clear
>as to everything I say.
>
>Can you see inequity/inequality there?
>
>If you can't acknowledge a small thing (truth), then you cannot go on
>to a greater thing (truth)...understanding this...
>
>"You have to entertain the possibility that you can be wrong again, as
>wrong as Saul was on the road to Damascus. He had to learn something,
>and so do you. We all have to have a road to Damascus experience
>where you haven't just got a few things wrong but that everything you
>think is wrong. If it doesn't happen before you die it will most
>certainly happen when you do!"

Now that you have revealed the reason behind your silly posts
there is no need for you to continue the pretense.

For those just joining us, Michael admitted that he sucks up
to God because he is afraid of what worse things his God
will do to him.

Barry OGrady

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May 19, 2012, 11:04:58 PM5/19/12
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Granted, ARC is a low traffic group so it is easy to manually
ignore certain posts, no killfile needed.
I still read your posts but not those of Urgil and Virgil.

Linda Lee

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On May 19, 8:15 pm, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On May 19, 8:36 pm, Barry OGrady <athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 19 May 2012 02:29:44 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>
> > <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >On May 19, 11:12 am, Barry OGrady <athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> > >> Take your own advice.
>
> Michael Christ wrote:
> > >Sometimes Barry, for a lovely caring atheist, you can be cruel and
> > >unnice and non fuzzy wuzzy warm feeling.
> Barry wrote:
> > The you must die so that the I and others can have a quieter
> > and more productive newsgroup.
>
> No, that is not much of an improvement.
>
> Michael Christ

Why do you blasphemously call yourself Christ, Mike?

Linda Lee

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On May 19, 9:20 pm, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
So what are you saying Mike, that all "born again" believers have the
surname Christ just like you? Or is that only you who has attained
that status?

>
> It is very hard to communicate with you because for a very long time
> all you want to do is pump out your own context, your own personal
> page Bible verses.

The Scriptures are not my personal property; I just know them better
than you do. And instead of relying on myself as some kind of
authority, _as you do,_ I quote the Scriptures and especially the
words of The Word of God/Christ to show what I'm pointing out. Sorry
that offends you.


>  That is why I remind you about 'Stephanos and
> Paul', because you have to come to terms with the reality that you are
> wrong again; not because I want to condemn you.  In fact 'they' were
> meant to happen for this very cause.

I am not wrong about Christ and never have been. You "remind" me
because you want to claim I am wrong about you and your egomania.


>
> Since you are so determined to slam down endless Bible verses at will
> and at whim it is about walking in the Spirit of Truth (truth) with me
> if you want to understand me

>(which, I assure you with all certainty,
> is prophetic of the Lord in the Spirit).

You are saying you're prophetic of the Lord in the Spirit?

>
> You state about me, "Your message is often very unclear" (to you that
> is).  Now in the vast majority of your responses to me you come out of
> the stalls firing with both barrels as though you are perfectly clear
> as to everything I say.
>
> Can you see inequity/inequality there?

I see you attempting to exalt yourself by obnoxiously chastising
everyone en masse as if you were above everyone else, and you calling
yourself Christ, but calling no other believer Christ.

>
> If you can't acknowledge a small thing (truth), then you cannot go on
> to a greater thing (truth)...understanding this...
>
> "You have to entertain the possibility that you can be wrong again, as
> wrong as Saul was on the road to Damascus.  He had to learn something,
> and so do you.  We all have to have a road to Damascus experience
> where you haven't just got a few things wrong but that everything you
> think is wrong.  If it doesn't happen before you die it will most
> certainly happen when you do!"

That's idiotic. When Paul was 'on the road to Damascus', he was the
enemy of Christ and the church of God. That sounds more like you (who
thinks he's above quoting the words of the Messiah and is offended if
anyone else does), than it does me.

>
> Michael NOT-Christ

Linda Lee

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And I know the words of the Word of God better because they are
'written on my heart' and are an integral part of me. I don't find the
Scriptures offensive at all, like you do.

Linda Lee

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P.S.
And I know the words of the Word of God "better" than you, Mike,
because they are
'written on my heart' and are an integral part of me. I don't find the
Scriptures offensive at all, like you do.

Michael Christ

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Barry wrote:
> Meant to be by an cruel and evil dictator God?

Thou art the cruel and evil dictator Barryeth OGrady.




Michael Christ

Michael Christ

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On May 20, 2:06 pm, Linda Lee <lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
(snip)

You are a stiff-necked woman, Linda.

Doing the same old things results in the same old results, so your
questions will not be answered.

Michael Christ wrote:
~"You state about me, "Your message is often very unclear" (to you
that
~is). Now in the vast majority of your responses to me you come out
of
~the stalls firing with both barrels as though you are perfectly clear
~as to everything I say.

~Can you see inequity/inequality there?

~If you can't acknowledge a small thing (truth), then you cannot go on
to
~a greater thing (truth)".

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, "I am the way, the truth, and the
life:.."

Your affection for TRUTH is not the priority of your life, Linda, it
sits in the wake of 'self'. Truth, all truth, no matter what it is in
your life needs to be put in first place; the Lord will not accept
second place.

So, until you are prepared to respond differently, you will remain
buried in your own selfish biblical opinions and continue doing what
is right in your own eyes...maybe in another 6 years.



Michael Christ

Linda Lee

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On May 20, 1:09 am, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On May 20, 2:06 pm, Linda Lee <lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
> (snip)
>
> You are a stiff-necked woman, Linda.

And you're a rebellious jackass who thinks he's Christ.

>
> Doing the same old things results in the same old results, so your
> questions will not be answered.

I already know the answer to why you call yourself Christ. But you're
not Christ, you're an egomaniacal blasphemer. And since you have no
good answer, this is your way of copping out. Lol!

>
> Michael NOT-Christ wrote:
>
> ~"You state about me, "Your message is often very unclear" (to you
> that
> ~is).  Now in the vast majority of your responses to me you come out
> of
> ~the stalls firing with both barrels as though you are perfectly clear
> ~as to everything I say.
>
> ~Can you see inequity/inequality there?
>
> ~If you can't acknowledge a small thing (truth), then you cannot go on
> to
> ~a greater thing (truth)".
>
> John 14:6  Jesus saith unto him, "I am the way, the truth, and the
> life:.."
>
> Your affection for TRUTH is not the priority of your life, Linda, it
> sits in the wake of 'self'.

Projection.

Linda Lee

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On May 19, 9:20 pm, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
Lol! I overlooked your statement before. What an egomaniac you are;
now you claim I had to be mistaken about Paul for your sake. ROFLOL!

Linda Lee

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Yep, it's all about Michael NOT-Christ; everything everyone does; it's
all about him! Lol!

Barry OGrady

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On Sat, 19 May 2012 20:51:44 -0700 (PDT), Linda Lee
<lindag...@juno.com> wrote:

>So what are you saying Mike, that all "born again" believers have the
>surname Christ just like you? Or is that only you who has attained
>that status?

The first birth gives intelligence and wisdom.
The second birth takes those away.

>The Scriptures are not my personal property; I just know them better
>than you do. And instead of relying on myself as some kind of
>authority, _as you do,_ I quote the Scriptures and especially the
>words of The Word of God/Christ to show what I'm pointing out. Sorry
>that offends you.

The words of God are often very offensive.

>I am not wrong about Christ and never have been.

You are wrong about Christ being real.

>> where you haven't just got a few things wrong but that everything you
>> If it doesn't happen before you die it will most
>> certainly happen when you do!"
>
>That's idiotic.

It certainly is! After death you won't be aware of anything.

>> Michael NOT-Christ

Barry OGrady

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On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:22:36 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On May 20, 12:51 pm, Barry OGrady <athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:

>Barry wrote:
>> Meant to be by an cruel and evil dictator God?
>
>Thou art the cruel and evil dictator Barryeth OGrady.

You wish. You would be much better off if I was.

Michael Christ

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On May 20, 5:59 pm, Barry OGrady <athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:22:36 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>
> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 20, 12:51 pm, Barry OGrady <athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> >Barry wrote:
> >> Meant to be by an cruel and evil dictator God?
>
Mike wrote:
>Thou art the cruel and evil dictator Barryeth OGrady.

Barry wrote:
> You wish. You would be much better off if I was.

No Barry, truly, you are, I cannot think of what it is that would make
you think otherwise. You are evil for you have no care for what you
say to people, and you dictate. Look at your actions, I mean really
look. I would fully expect you to be a man who has the 'balls'




Michael Christ

H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.

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On 5/18/2012 7:19 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On May 18, 8:15 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."<xeicklebo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On 5/17/2012 9:24 AM, francis wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 16, 6:56 pm, Michael Christ<jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related
>>
>>>> Some of these images are crazy.
>>
>>>> Brought me to tears that is for sure.
>>
>>>> Oh hell what kind of world is it that we would let this happen.
>>
>>>> How I wish I could be more than what I am.
>>
>>>> Oh Lord make me more than what I am!!!
>>
>>>> Michael Christ
>>
>>> The "I" Must Die!
>
>
> Ike wrote:
>> Nonsense.
>
>> There is a time for "I," and a time for "we" (as God is both "I" and "We").
>
>> What did Jesus say?
>
>> "Love thy neighbor as thyself."
>
>> How are you going to even love your neighbor if you don't love yourself?
>
> That is humanism, human rationalisation.

No, it's structural integrity in literature, cultist.

If one doesn't love themselves, then the saying "love thy neighbor as
thyself" has no meaning.

If one doesn't love themselves, then they have no basis for loving their
neighbor.

> Dr Phil would love you.
>
> Everybody already loves themselves,

Nonsense.

People HATE themselves, then project that in the three-dimensional river
of sin, in time (abuses past to abuses future), in hierarchy (the
rebellious hate the oppressive, and vice versa), and in cycles (the
abused become the abusers, and vice versa).

> that is the problem, that is the
> problem with the whole selfish world.

People are criminal because they think that they have to be cold-hearted
bastards to come into their own.

> Love thy neighbor AS thyself.

Once again for the cultist: If one doesn't love themselves, they CANNOT
love their neighbor.

> For that to happen you have to die to
> self; the old nature has to crucified and raised up to new life in
> Christ Jesus.

Notice how the cultist keeps trying to lead people back to legalism. He
is completely ignorant of what the Gospel is.

> That can only happen through the total surrender of
> your life to the Lord Jesus...as is right and only a 'reasonable'
> service. You need Him to show you what you must do in your daily
> life...and then do it.

Notice how the cultist keeps trying to lead people into self reliance.

You don't "show Him" anything, cultist; He shows you.

> You need to be quiet and listen (to God), and to shut up and hear
> (Him), Ike

Again, we have the mantra of the cultist, i.e. don't read, hear, and
keep the Word, but don't think and listen to him (even though he doesn't
have the first clue as to what he's talking about.

> It is all very very simple.

Anyone who thinks the Word is "simple" doesn't know the Word at all.

But don't the cultists love trying to convince people of same.

Ike

--
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Barry OGrady

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You would be better off with Hitler than with God.

Barry OGrady

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On Sun, 20 May 2012 04:53:18 -0400, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
<xeickl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 18/5/2012 7:19 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On May 18, 8:15 pm, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."<xeicklebo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
All for God's amusement.



>
>> that is the problem, that is the
>> problem with the whole selfish world.
>
>People are criminal because they think that they have to be cold-hearted
>bastards to come into their own.

Blame evolution.



>
>> Love thy neighbor AS thyself.
>
>Once again for the cultist: If one doesn't love themselves, they CANNOT
>love their neighbor.
>
>> For that to happen you have to die to
>> self; the old nature has to crucified and raised up to new life in
>> Christ Jesus.
>
>Notice how the cultist keeps trying to lead people back to legalism. He
>is completely ignorant of what the Gospel is.


>
>> That can only happen through the total surrender of
>> your life to the Lord Jesus...as is right and only a 'reasonable'
>> service. You need Him to show you what you must do in your daily
>> life...and then do it.
>
>Notice how the cultist keeps trying to lead people into self reliance.
>
>You don't "show Him" anything, cultist; He shows you.

That's how society goes backwards.


>> You need to be quiet and listen (to God), and to shut up and hear
>> (Him), Ike
>
>Again, we have the mantra of the cultist, i.e. don't read, hear, and
>keep the Word, but don't think and listen to him (even though he doesn't
>have the first clue as to what he's talking about.

People have advanced since the bible was spewed out.

>> It is all very very simple.
>
>Anyone who thinks the Word is "simple" doesn't know the Word at all.
>
>But don't the cultists love trying to convince people of same.

It is simple if you can see outside the square.

>Ike

Michael Christ

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Michael Christ wrote:
> >  That can only happen through the total surrender of
> > your life to the Lord Jesus...as is right and only a 'reasonable'
> > service.  You need Him to show you what you must do in your daily
> > life...and then do it.

Ike wrote:
> Notice how the cultist keeps trying to lead people into self reliance.

> You don't "show Him" anything, cultist; He shows you.

This is the problem, you are not even paying attention to what I am
saying.

Notice...read again what I actually said...and it is true.

Faith in obedience to His will, not the law.


Michael Christ wrote:
> > You need to be quiet and listen (to God), and to shut up and hear
> > (Him), Ike

And you need to read and comprehend what I am actually saying also.



Michael Christ

Michael Christ

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On May 20, 7:06 pm, Barry OGrady <athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 May 2012 01:41:50 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 20, 5:59 pm, Barry OGrady <athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:22:36 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>
> >> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On May 20, 12:51 pm, Barry OGrady <athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> >> >Barry wrote:
> >> >> Meant to be by an cruel and evil dictator God?
>
> >Mike wrote:
> >>Thou art the cruel and evil dictator Barryeth OGrady.
>
> >Barry wrote:
> >> You wish. You would be much better off if I was.

Michael Christ wrote:
> >No Barry, truly, you are, I cannot think of what it is that would make
> >you think otherwise.  You are evil for you have no care for what you
> >say to people, and you dictate.  Look at your actions, I mean really
> >look.  I would fully expect you to be a man who has the 'balls'

Barry wrote:
> You would be better off with Hitler than with God.

How long have you been a believer? :-).



Michael Christ

Barry OGrady

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On Sun, 20 May 2012 02:51:12 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>How long have you been a believer? :-).

How long have you rejected Zeus?

duke

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But are still a call to us to correct and love.

> Nevertheless
>all you can be is receptive to the will of God in your life and see
>where He takes you.

>Still, imagine what God sees and has seen; it seems unimaginable.
>Imagine all those babies and young children whisked away in the debris
>during that big tsunami, not to mention everyone else. And what about
>all the horrible vicious and ruthless things people do to one another,
>be it in war or so called 'peace'.

What about them? Everybody dies one way or the other, sooner or later.


duke - American American

*****
2012 - end of an error
Vote Republican in 2012
*****

duke

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On Sat, 19 May 2012 18:20:42 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hey Sis!! :-).
>
>Not to me if it was true. If you are not a branch of the vine
>(without the Lord you can do nothing) you are still what you were
>originally born as...a 'Linda Lee'.
>
>It is very hard to communicate with you because for a very long time
>all you want to do is pump out your own context, your own personal
>page Bible verses. That is why I remind you about 'Stephanos and
>Paul', because you have to come to terms with the reality that you are
>wrong again; not because I want to condemn you. In fact 'they' were
>meant to happen for this very cause.
>
>Since you are so determined to slam down endless Bible verses at will
>and at whim it is about walking in the Spirit of Truth (truth) with me
>if you want to understand me (which, I assure you with all certainty,
>is prophetic of the Lord in the Spirit).
>
>You state about me, "Your message is often very unclear" (to you that
>is).

To a lot of us.

> Now in the vast majority of your responses to me you come out of
>the stalls firing with both barrels as though you are perfectly clear
>as to everything I say.
>Can you see inequity/inequality there?

???

>If you can't acknowledge a small thing (truth), then you cannot go on
>to a greater thing (truth)...understanding this...

>"You have to entertain the possibility that you can be wrong again, as
>wrong as Saul was on the road to Damascus. He had to learn something,
>and so do you. We all have to have a road to Damascus experience
>where you haven't just got a few things wrong but that everything you
>think is wrong. If it doesn't happen before you die it will most
>certainly happen when you do!"
>Michael Christ


Barry OGrady

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On Sun, 20 May 2012 08:28:32 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 19 May 2012 18:42:46 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
><jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>Things are, believe it or not, as they are meant to be.
>
>But are still a call to us to correct and love.

Good luck correcting God!

>duke - American American

Rod

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On 5/20/2012 2:59 AM, Barry OGrady wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:22:36 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
> <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On May 20, 12:51 pm, Barry OGrady<athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Barry wrote:
>>> Meant to be by an cruel and evil dictator God?
>>
>> Thou art the cruel and evil dictator Barryeth OGrady.
>
> You wish. You would be much better off if I was.
>

You know, I understand why you detest the idea of God
and hate what you've read or heard, but keep it in mind
that much of it was written by men that claimed to have
encounters with God. To be honest, I doubt some of it
myself..but only because it puts God in a very negative
light. Slavery is one of those negative items, but in the
days before and leading up to the 1900's it was a normal
thing, and it still is in Islam. In Islam, the q'ran gives
women specific rights but all the time you see where those
rights are denied the women by radical elements that wrote
their own religion. So it seems to be the case with some
books of Christianity. Evil men do evil things and have evil
ideas. There are some verses in the old testament that paint
God as a mass murdering lunatic, but in truth He was defending
Israel and visiting on the enemies of Israel the same things
they had done to the children of Israel, like smashing their
babies heads upon rocks. God did say that revenge is HIS, He
will repay...and He DID. There are also a a couple of verses
in the OT that I've caught hell over in the past, mainly
because I stated that they make God look like a psychotic, and
they do. Do I accept them as true ? No.

What I'm trying to say is that the only way YOU are ever going
to be satisfied about Gods existence and what is and is not true
about Him is to have a personal encounter with Him, face to face,
and it isn't impossible.

A friend of mine on this group suggested that I go into the woods
and have it out with Him. I did. Nothing happened for a few months,
then one evening I found myself standing in front of Him, answering
as many questions as I could think of to ask.

You have nothing to lose by trying it...or maybe you do...




Linda Lee

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On May 20, 3:56 am, Barry OGrady <athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 20:51:44 -0700 (PDT), Linda Lee
>
Shut up Barry; I don't want to hear your garbage.

Barry OGrady

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On Sun, 20 May 2012 09:35:43 -0500, Rod <nhra...@gmail.com> wrote:
Before I can comment I need to know what you believe
about God. You apparently believe in a good God, but
is your God almighty or at least very powerful? It does
seem your God has some magic powers but does he
have free will and is there anything stopping him from
cleaning up the mess? Did God create the mess or is
it outside his control?

I don't believe what's in the bible but I do observe there
is no good and (al)mighty God.
I hope you can enlighten me!

Barry OGrady

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The power is in your hands.

Rod

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God prefers knowledge to the use of power.


> It does
> seem your God has some magic powers but does he
> have free will and is there anything stopping him from
> cleaning up the mess?

He could clean it up, but we made it the mess it is
so we get to clean it up. To Him we are children, dull
witted and knowing nothing. We have to start learning
from the beginning. The bible says that some of these
"children" will be with Him for an eternity, but how
long is an eternity, really ? Forever ? I don't think
so. In the scriptures He called us gods, so does this
mean that one day we will have grown up to be wise and
all powerful as He ? Maybe, maybe not. But eventually,
children leave the home and strike out on their own.

Would we allow a child who knows nothing to roam the
world freely ? Of course not. Children have to be taught,
and one of the better methods of doing it is to throw them
into the mix and make them clean up their own mess.

If He does a hocus pocus and everything is cleaned up,
the children will never learn a thing up cleaning up
after themselves, and they will expect Him to do it
all the time.

My kids are grown up and gone, but I can tell you that
their is no way in hell I'm going to walk around behind
those brats and clean up every mess they made! Hell no!

> Did God create the mess or is
> it outside his control?

You've closed your ears and made your mind up already.


>
> I don't believe what's in the bible but I do observe there
> is no good and (al)mighty God.
> I hope you can enlighten me!

All I can tell you to do is what worked for me. I had to be
patient and wait, and it payed off.

Of course...you've been doing something known as blaspheming Him
and that isn't good. I didn't do that. I simply screamed out to
the universe that I didn't believe He could possibly exist, and two
years later I'm on a mountain "somewhere" looking right at Him
and hearing every word He said to me.

But then I know how hard this will be for you. You're all white
with no other heritage, but I'm of mixed blood and mixed heritage,
spirits are an everyday thing with my people. We live knowing they
are everywhere, in every living thing. Spirit is really just life
force, for lack of a better terminology.

But soul...well that is something entirely different. Soul is
disembodied intelligence, and intelligence that is able to exist
outside of it's body, something many animals cannot do..yet.

Come to America. I'll take you someplace and show you things
that you'll spend the rest of your life attempting to deny that
you witnessed them, or you'll wake up and realize how wrong you've
been.

I can promise you one thing, you'll be just as scared as i was
the first time.

Linda Lee

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Why is Rod lying to Barry when Rod has posted here a couple of years
ago that God is a psycho?

Rod

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Rod isn't lying to Barry. I told him about the verse
and what I said.

You are the one doing most of the lying that you are
complaining about.




when Rod has posted here a couple of years
> ago that God is a psycho?

I said that the verse painted a picture of a psychotic,
and I also said that I don't believe everything in the
bible because many times it paints God as a maniac and
a butcher, and He isn't...


I'm sorry I can't say as much for you....



Linda Lee

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May 20, 2012, 11:34:00 PM5/20/12
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Creep, the verses you claimed meant God was a psycho were Psa.
2:11-12, which promises God's wrath and their destruction to anyone
who rejects the Son of God. Only a fallen psycho like yourself who
fears hell would think that requiring people love the Son of God or
they will suffer destruction in hell paints God as a psycho.

Psa 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
Psa 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way,
when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put
their trust in him.

Like it or not, you're the liar who does blaspheme God worse than
Barry the god-hating atheist ever did, and the Scriptures are true,
and the Messiah is the only way, the only truth, and the only real
life - eternal life.

Rod

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May 21, 2012, 12:00:20 AM5/21/12
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I'm not afraid and have no reason to be. However, you reveal
a strong desire on your part to see me suffering death and all
manner of evils, and how you have been speaking to me is revealing
your hatred.


I'll tell you again, you ARE a wicked, hateful woman.
>
> Psa 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
> Psa 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way,
> when his wrath is kindled but a little.

Yep, these are the verses, and they DO paint a picture of a psychotic,
and God isn't that way...but man is, as are you..



> Blessed are all they that put
> their trust in him.

Yep, that's true!


>
> Like it or not, you're the liar who does blaspheme God

Excuse me, you dumbass, but it isn't blasphemy of the Spirit
to tell the truth. Those are the kind of words that turn people
AWAY from God, not to Him, and an all knowing God would KNOW it,
and that is why I do not see these verses as inspired by God.

You see Linda, the Bible doesn't pan out perfectly. Some books
ARE the inspired word of God and others are words of pure hatred.

God is not and cannot be both Love and Hate at once.

In many respects some books of the bible tell less truth about God
then they do about the emotions and thoughts of their author(s).

You are once again trying to twist things out of perspective,
your reputation as a liar is well earned.


worse than
> Barry the god-hating atheist ever did, and the Scriptures are true,

Not all of them. Gnostic writings are considered as scriptures,
why are they not in the bible ? Because people like you don't
consider them true, and what do you base this decision upon ?

Nothing more than dislike of what is said in the scripture.


> and the Messiah is the only way, the only truth, and the only real
> life - eternal life.
>

This is the only thing you've said that hasn't got a ton of hatred
in it.

Rod

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On 5/20/2012 6:14 PM, Barry OGrady wrote:
Sung to the tune of "Ain't she sweet", from her hands down to her
feet!!!!

Linda simply breathes new life into a divorce decree!






Baba

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On May 19, 5:12 am, Barry OGrady <athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> On May 19, 11:55 am, Baba <ramd...@inorbit.com> wrote:
>
> > 'Father knows Best', Indeed.
> > But on the other hand, has it ever occurred to you that while you've
> > been waiting  on the Lord maybe He's been waiting for you?
> > He delt the cards, play the hand. He gave you the tools, use them.
> > When?
> > Thou shalt not procrastinate. When He takes you dancing
> > you gotta let Him lead, even when you don't like the music
> > or think it's appropriate for the moment....
>
> Wouldn't it be appropriate for God to use his awesome magical
> powers to do everything that needs doing rather than assign
> the work to inadequate humans?

He does do everything that needs doing through His awesome magickal
Omnipotence,
that includes what He does through us.
However, dancing just as making love, goes much better with a willing
partner.
For some reason beyond us, especially beyond you...God decided to give
us free will.
Wanna dance?
No thank you, Barry. I prefer to save this dance for Jesus.

*¿*

Baba

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May 21, 2012, 2:21:19 AM5/21/12
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On May 19, 4:40 am, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On May 19, 11:55 am, Baba <ramd...@inorbit.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 18, 7:48 pm, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On May 18, 6:44 pm, Baba <ramd...@inorbit.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 18, 2:35 am, Linda Lee <lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 16, 8:56 pm, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related
>
> > > > > > Some of these images are crazy.
>
> > > > > > Brought me to tears that is for sure.
>
> > > > > > Oh hell what kind of world is it that we would let this happen.
>
> > > > > > How I wish I could be more than what I am.
>
> > > > > > Oh Lord make me more than what I am!!!
>
> > > > > > Michael Not-Christ
>
> > > > > We don't pray to God on the internet, Michael Not-Christ.  That is not
> > > > > prayer, and God surely doesn't hear such false prayers.  What you're
> > > > > doing is grandstanding for an audience. Christ said people like you
> > > > > are hypocrites.
>
> > > > > In Matt. 6:5 Yahashua` the Messiah said, "And when thou prayest, thou
> > > > > shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in
> > > > > the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be
> > > > > seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward."
>
> > > > > If you ever really want God to hear you, this is the way Christ taught
> > > > > us to pray:
>
> > > > > Matt. 6:6  "But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and
> > > > > when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret;
> > > > > and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."
>
> > > > > It's very ironic that you were recently preaching to shut up and
> > > > > listen to God.
>
> > > > Be gent(i)le, don't be so quick to cast that stone..  I don't think
> > > > Mike was praying but rather expressing
> > > > bewilderment and impotence. Michael isn't a drama queen he's just
> > > > sensitive  (BWAHAHAHA!!!:-)
> > > > No irony at all. In publicly accepting his personal defeat by the
> > > > world he is urging us to listen to
> > > > and obey the Will of the Lord.
>
> > > > But seriously, Linda. Do you *really* *go into your closet* when you
> > > > pray?
> > > > Crowded in there? Don't trip on your spikes.
> > > > How about a little poetic license?
> > > > When you pray it's between you and God and the closet is figurative.
> > > > Figure if you throw Matt 18:20 into the argument (and if your'e
> > > > *really* praying you have to)
> > > > then you better have a walk-in closet or it's going to get really
> > > > crowded in there.
>
> > > > So, essentially you're saying that Mike isn't in the closet...
> > > > Well then alright! That's exactly what Michael has been saying. Let go
> > > > of your self
> > > > PUT your this and your that, your book and your hat, your make-up and
> > > > mask
> > > > and oh-so-important task ("I'm late, I'm late, for a very important
> > > > date!")
> > > > IN THE CLOSET and get down with the BEingness, the OOoomph, the living
> > > > God.
>
> > > Amen.
>
> > > Baba wrote:
> > > > See?
>
> > > > What say you, Mike?
> > > > You in the closet...praying or anything?
>
> > > > *¿*
>
> > > I found the 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?
> > > v=jpzO8hYKZeg&feature=related' video confronting and very upsetting
> > > and posted it on impulse. I thought about the pathetic ease in which
> > > we live, yet, to go ahead and set my daily life on some personal quest
> > > to address human suffering is fatal.  One must be still and know what
> > > the Lord's will is above all else before moving forward; a lamp unto
> > > my feet, a light unto my path
>
> > > I would love to do something.  I am a registered nurse I could go
> > > somewhere, anywhere, it would seem, and do something greatly more
> > > useful that tending spoilt ungrateful middle class whims in the health
> > > system in which I now work, but the Lord wants me to sit and wait on
> > > Him.  While my life has undergone many changes, waiting on Him is
> > > something that I have been doing for a long long time.  He allows me
> > > to express myself a little on the newsgroups as a temporal salve in a
> > > sense to partially accommodate my desire to do more.  He is good.
>
> > > It is an issue of maturing and maturity.  He knows what is best.
>
> > > Michael Christ
>
> > 'Father knows Best', Indeed.
> > But on the other hand, has it ever occurred to you that while you've
> > been waiting
> > on the Lord maybe He's been waiting for you?
> > He delt the cards, play the hand. He gave you the tools, use them.
> > When?
> > Thou shalt not procrastinate. When He takes you dancing
> > you gotta let Him lead, even when you don't like the music
> > or think it's appropriate for the moment....
>
> > *¿*
>
> Yes, but no, not for me that advice.

If you insist...

See ya. :)

*¿*

>
> It is not that I am idle, in fact I am very busy each day.  I am doing
> lots of things that I haven't done before and the things that I am
> doing are evolving.  Anyway, with everything else aside, I know my
> time, or maybe just a moment, has not come; a bit like in the latest
> Karate Kid movie with the coat going on and off and so on...
>
> I try to get it across to people that God is not a Bible to be tamed
> by the human mind, that He is a Person, a real Person who everyone
> needs to hear from in their daily life.  They need to hear His will,
> and then do it. It is not going to written in the Bible, it goes
> beyond the Bible.  The Bible is wonderful, but it is not God, it is
> there as a means to bring people to God, to enter into a relationship
> in spirit with Him.  That has been a message that hasn't changed in
> all my time on the newsgroups.  It is the truth, He is not interested
> in people striving to adhere to rules, He is only interested in an
> intimate relationship that is second to none in your life.
>
> He made the Way for that to happen...
>
> Heb 4:16  Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that
> we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
>
> In this...
>
> Rom 12:1  I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God,
> that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto
> God, which is your reasonable service.
>
> In the reality...
>
> Mar 10:27  And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is
> impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.
>
> Michael Christ

Rod

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May 21, 2012, 9:34:49 AM5/21/12
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You're wrong about that.

Rod

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On 5/19/2012 10:24 PM, Linda Lee wrote:
> On May 19, 8:15 pm, Michael Christ<jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On May 19, 8:36 pm, Barry OGrady<athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 19 May 2012 02:29:44 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>>
>>> <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On May 19, 11:12 am, Barry OGrady<athe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> Take your own advice.
>>
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> Sometimes Barry, for a lovely caring atheist, you can be cruel and
>>>> unnice and non fuzzy wuzzy warm feeling.
>> Barry wrote:
>>> The you must die so that the I and others can have a quieter
>>> and more productive newsgroup.
>>
>> No, that is not much of an improvement.
>>
>> Michael Christ
>
> Why do you blasphemously call yourself Christ, Mike?


Everyone who believes in Him is of the body of Christ,
and therefore he has the right to call himself by the
name.

Rod

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May 21, 2012, 9:41:42 AM5/21/12
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On 5/20/2012 12:31 AM, Linda Lee wrote:
> On May 20, 1:09 am, Michael Christ<jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On May 20, 2:06 pm, Linda Lee<lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
>> (snip)
>>
>> You are a stiff-necked woman, Linda.
>
> And you're a rebellious jackass who thinks he's Christ.

And you are an *alligator mouth* that thinks she is *GOD*



>
>>
>> Doing the same old things results in the same old results, so your
>> questions will not be answered.
>
> I already know the answer to why you call yourself Christ. But you're
> not Christ, you're an egomaniacal blasphemer. And since you have no
> good answer, this is your way of copping out. Lol!





>
>>
>> Michael NOT-Christ wrote:
>>
>> ~"You state about me, "Your message is often very unclear" (to you
>> that
>> ~is). Now in the vast majority of your responses to me you come out
>> of
>> ~the stalls firing with both barrels as though you are perfectly clear
>> ~as to everything I say.
>>
>> ~Can you see inequity/inequality there?
>>
>> ~If you can't acknowledge a small thing (truth), then you cannot go on
>> to
>> ~a greater thing (truth)".
>>
>> John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, "I am the way, the truth, and the
>> life:.."
>>
>> Your affection for TRUTH is not the priority of your life, Linda, it
>> sits in the wake of 'self'.
>
> Projection.

Delusions on your part.

"worker"

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>"We created God. Now we must do God's work."
>
>How do you propose to "prove" that if you please?
>
>If you have none then it is an empty rhetorical gesture, no? Then your
>theology is but of blind faith, no?
>
>Atheists are often the first to evoke proof, but usually on final
>examination have none.

"You need to learn to quote properly with attributes if you want replies."

As you wish, ah, empty rhetorical gesture it is then.

Entirely of blind faith it is, no?

Barry OGrady

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May 21, 2012, 10:18:25 AM5/21/12
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replies. See what everybody else does.

Barry OGrady

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May 21, 2012, 11:03:26 AM5/21/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 20:44:56 -0500, Rod <nhra...@gmail.com> wrote:
It is no good telling your children or pets you love them
and ordering them to love you. You must show your
love in a practical way.

>> It does
>> seem your God has some magic powers but does he
>> have free will and is there anything stopping him from
>> cleaning up the mess?
>
> He could clean it up, but we made it the mess it is
> so we get to clean it up. To Him we are children, dull
> witted and knowing nothing. We have to start learning
> from the beginning. The bible says that some of these
> "children" will be with Him for an eternity, but how
> long is an eternity, really ? Forever ? I don't think
> so. In the scriptures He called us gods, so does this
> mean that one day we will have grown up to be wise and
> all powerful as He ? Maybe, maybe not. But eventually,
> children leave the home and strike out on their own.

How do you determine which parts of the bible are true?
You want God to be good so the really evil parts are rejected
completely and others are modified.

> Would we allow a child who knows nothing to roam the
> world freely ? Of course not.

Yet God does that

> Children have to be taught,
> and one of the better methods of doing it is to throw them
> into the mix and make them clean up their own mess.

Children don't learn by being killed. It is your job to
protect them. Your children should have been taken
off you for their own safety.

> If He does a hocus pocus and everything is cleaned up,
> the children will never learn a thing up cleaning up
> after themselves, and they will expect Him to do it
> all the time.

That would be fantastic, and if there was a caring God
that would happen.

> My kids are grown up and gone, but I can tell you that
> their is no way in hell I'm going to walk around behind
> those brats and clean up every mess they made! Hell no!

I am amazed your children survived.

>> Did God create the mess or is
>> it outside his control?
>
> You've closed your ears and made your mind up already.

I know what I know, but I don't know if you believe God
created the mess, as it says in Genesis, or if it is outside
his control.

>> I don't believe what's in the bible but I do observe there
>> is no good and (al)mighty God.
>> I hope you can enlighten me!
>
> All I can tell you to do is what worked for me. I had to be
> patient and wait, and it payed off.

Were you admitted to a psychiatric ward?

> Of course...you've been doing something known as blaspheming Him
> and that isn't good. I didn't do that. I simply screamed out to
> the universe that I didn't believe He could possibly exist, and two
> years later I'm on a mountain "somewhere" looking right at Him
> and hearing every word He said to me.

Is that the sort of thing you said if revealed would result in
you being attacked?
I can see why conventional Christians attack you. You threaten
their income.

> But then I know how hard this will be for you. You're all white
> with no other heritage, but I'm of mixed blood and mixed heritage,
> spirits are an everyday thing with my people. We live knowing they
> are everywhere, in every living thing. Spirit is really just life
> force, for lack of a better terminology.

Your beliefs are no better than those of any other believer.

> But soul...well that is something entirely different. Soul is
> disembodied intelligence, and intelligence that is able to exist
> outside of it's body, something many animals cannot do..yet.

Are you a mormon?

> Come to America. I'll take you someplace and show you things
> that you'll spend the rest of your life attempting to deny that
> you witnessed them, or you'll wake up and realize how wrong you've
> been.

I'm not wrong about there not being a good and powerful God.
You are wrong in assuming a god must be good.

> I can promise you one thing, you'll be just as scared as i was
> the first time.

You have that much in common with most Christians.

Barry OGrady

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On Sun, 20 May 2012 20:34:00 -0700 (PDT), Linda Lee
<lindag...@juno.com> wrote:

>On May 20, 11:20 pm, Rod <nhraf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 20/5/2012 9:01 PM, Linda Lee wrote:
>>
>> > On May 20, 9:44 pm, Rod<nhraf...@gmail.com>  wrote:
That does make God a psycho, and you are a psycho for supporting
your psycho God.

>Psa 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
>Psa 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way,
>when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put
>their trust in him.
>
>Like it or not, you're the liar who does blaspheme God worse than
>Barry the god-hating atheist ever did, and the Scriptures are true,
>and the Messiah is the only way, the only truth, and the only real
>life - eternal life.

Rod is strange but you are way over the top.
You are dangerous.

Barry OGrady

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On Sun, 20 May 2012 23:00:20 -0500, Rod <nhra...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/20/2012 10:34 PM, Linda Lee wrote:

> I'll tell you again, you ARE a wicked, hateful woman.
>>
>> Psa 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
>> Psa 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way,
>> when his wrath is kindled but a little.
>
> Yep, these are the verses, and they DO paint a picture of a psychotic,
> and God isn't that way...but man is, as are you..

You are weird but Linda is a psycho!

".worker"

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"I'm not wrong about there not being a good and powerful God."

The proof for this if youplease.

Or is this but more rhetorical acting out?

Is it more assertion from blind faith?

"worker."

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May 21, 2012, 11:19:18 AM5/21/12
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>>"We created God. Now we must do God's work."
>>
>>How do you propose to "prove" that if you please?
>>
>>If you have none then it is an empty rhetorical gesture, no? Then your
>>theology is but of blind faith, no?
>>
>>Atheists are often the first to evoke proof, but usually on final
>>examination have none.
>
>"You need to learn to quote properly with attributes if you want replies."
>
>As you wish, ah, empty rhetorical gesture it is then.
>
>Entirely of blind faith it is, no?

"You need to learn to quote properly with attributes if you want replies.
See what everybody else does."

Non-response noted. Observation that on final examination blind faith is
the last refuge of the theology of the atheist confirmed.

Rod

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A-M-E-N !!!

Rod

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May 21, 2012, 11:53:00 AM5/21/12
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Did you escape a psychiatric ward ?



>
>> Of course...you've been doing something known as blaspheming Him
>> and that isn't good. I didn't do that. I simply screamed out to
>> the universe that I didn't believe He could possibly exist, and two
>> years later I'm on a mountain "somewhere" looking right at Him
>> and hearing every word He said to me.
>
> Is that the sort of thing you said if revealed would result in
> you being attacked?
> I can see why conventional Christians attack you. You threaten
> their income.

<smiling...> L. Ron Hubbard was right about at least one thing,
if a man wants to become a millionaire then he should start a
religion.



>
>> But then I know how hard this will be for you. You're all white
>> with no other heritage, but I'm of mixed blood and mixed heritage,
>> spirits are an everyday thing with my people. We live knowing they
>> are everywhere, in every living thing. Spirit is really just life
>> force, for lack of a better terminology.
>
> Your beliefs are no better than those of any other believer.


And what do you assume my beliefs are ?



>
>> But soul...well that is something entirely different. Soul is
>> disembodied intelligence, and intelligence that is able to exist
>> outside of it's body, something many animals cannot do..yet.
>
> Are you a mormon?

I thought you knew what my beliefs are, now you're backpedaling.



>
>> Come to America. I'll take you someplace and show you things
>> that you'll spend the rest of your life attempting to deny that
>> you witnessed them, or you'll wake up and realize how wrong you've
>> been.
>
> I'm not wrong about there not being a good and powerful God.

But you can't prove it. When asked repeatedly time and again
you dodge answering...



> You are wrong in assuming a god must be good.

I haven't assumed He is good, I KNOW He is good.


>
>> I can promise you one thing, you'll be just as scared as i was
>> the first time.
>
> You have that much in common with most Christians.


See, you have closed your mind off and it's plainly visible
in spite of your denials.

duke

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On Mon, 21 May 2012 00:03:45 +1000, Barry OGrady <ath...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:

>On Sun, 20 May 2012 08:28:32 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 19 May 2012 18:42:46 -0700 (PDT), Michael Christ
>><jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>Things are, believe it or not, as they are meant to be.
>>
>>But are still a call to us to correct and love.
>
>Good luck correcting God!

Unlike you, I'm not trying to.

duke - American American

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