Le 27/05/2012 19:30, JamesD a écrit :
> On 5/27/2012 8:22 AM, RVG wrote:
>> Le 27/05/2012 15:50, JamesD a écrit :
>>> When a man walks in the fear of God he knows no fear,
>>
>> Because fear of God is fear of nothing, since God = nothing.
>>
>
> No, Vassili. God is definitely Someone.
In your head and all the brainwashed believers, yes.
> It is you, my sad friend, who are nothing (and I by extension).
I cannot doubt that I exist, therefore I am. God OTOH...
> I'm truly sorry to say, you are in for a very, very rough ride in
> this life if you don't soon make an effort to snap out of your
> despair.
I should hope what exactly ? Not to eat Rib-Woman's bad fruit suggested
by Talking Snake ? Or that organisms started to die 6000 years ago and
before that the dinosaurs and the cockroaches were immortal ? Please
explain.
> Your despair has led you to non-belief, to anger, and to thoughts of
> suicide.
Nope, that was my mother's bereavement.
> You embrace science and that brings you what?
Sound access to reality. The ability to actually *know* what I'm talking
about and analyse what others try to brainwash me with, like religion.
Prove God or he doesn't exist ! It's that simple, really.
I'm not speaking of a fuzzy feeling in the rib cage. I know that, it's
just a feeling that goes nowhere and proves nothing.
Just show, for example, two actual events done by God in nature. Easy, no ?
> "The fool has said in his heart: there is no God"... so says the
> Bible.
Yes, God says in the Bible that the Bible says of God says in the Bible,
etc. Circular reference.
> The Bible and the Church have both withstood the vagaries of time and
> the attacks of countless atheists.
No, atheism is a novelty in the world. It appears during the 19th
century (prior to that there was theism only) because of the major
scientific discoveries of that time, namely physical laws and evolution.
> Those atheists are dead and gone but the Bible and the Church
> continue on.
Hardly: in you everyday life you use science, like now with your
computer (semi-conductors work on quantum mechanics) or when you go see
a doctor to prescribe you any modern medication.
The Bible only provides words, words and words. All of them empty of
*facts*.