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Donna Kupp

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Nov 20, 2009, 6:51:45 AM11/20/09
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ANTINOMIANS ARE THE BAD GUYS

No one wants to be called an antinomian because
antinomians are known as the bad guys of church history.
Since only a few Christians know what an antinomian
teaches, many will be shocked when they read the
definition and discover that they are one.

antinomian, (from Greek anti=against and nomos=law)
"One who holds that, under the gospel dispensation, the
moral law is of no use or obligation, faith alone being
necessary to salvation." (Webster's Collegiate)

The moral law is defined as:

"The Decalogue [The ten commandments] and the moral
maxims of the Mosaic law" (Webster's 20th Century)

As you can see, the fact is that anyone who says that a
Christian is under no obligation to obey the ten
commandments for salvation is an antinomian teacher.

Antinomianism is a spiritual cancer which has eaten away
the heart of modern Christianity. All that is left is a weak
and sickly counterfeit dressed in fine clothing. Unrepentant
sinners love this sin-filled fake which softly promises that
"faith alone is necessary to salvation". What a lie!

Jesus said:

"If you would enter life KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS"
(Matthew 19:17)

Only Satan, "the father of liars" would boldly contradict the
very words of Christ and call it Christianity. The simple
truth is that Jesus never said: "If you would enter life, have
faith." He said - keep the commandments!.

Down through the pages of history, the leaders and
teachers in the true church have fought this doctrine of
Antinomianism which teaches that a Christian can continue
to commit sin and still inherit eternal life.

From the time of Adam and Eve, Satan's plan has always
been to trick men and women into disobeying the laws of
God. That is what makes him the enemy of God. Think
about it, if Satan were to teach people that they must keep
the ten commandments in order to inherit eternal life he
would be saying the same thing as Jesus.

On the contrary, Satan's "antinomian" teachers say that as
far as salvation is concerned, Christians have no obligation
to obey any of God's ten commandments. They insist that
we are saved by grace --plus nothing.

This lie of Satan can take many subtle forms and is
sometimes difficult to pin down. But there is one question
that will always expose the true source of someone's
doctrine. If you are not exactly sure what a teacher believes
about salvation, ask him this question:

Can a Christian continue to deliberately break any of the ten
commandments (including the sabbath) and still inherit eternal
life?

Anyone who says "Yes" is teaching antinomianism, whether
he knows it or not. The truth is that Christians must cease
from all willful sin in order to inherit eternal life. The good
news is that through the power of the Holy Spirit, we can.

Donna Kupp

http://groups.google.com/group/Freetruth?hl=en,

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/show.php?i=630302&cat=0

The Seven Deadly Deceptions Of Counterfeit Christianity
http://www.freetruth.info

Andrew

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Nov 20, 2009, 4:58:48 PM11/20/09
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The point you make is entirely valid. I think the problem is that
people confuse the view that one should conduct oneself morally and in
an upright fashion in accordance with God's will with the view that
such conduct in and of itself can bring salvation.

Paul, in Romans, is really entirely clear on this. It is faith and
faith alone that saves; but this certainly does not mean that one
should keep on sinning. A faithful response to the grace of God should
involve acting in accordance with his will.

The gift of grace, though, is that our sins are forgiven - wilful or
not - if we are repentant. Repentance should, of course, involve a
genuine desire to turn away from sin.

Donna Kupp

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Nov 21, 2009, 1:09:18 AM11/21/09
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Donna asks Andrew:

vince garcia

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:15:16 AM11/21/09
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Andrew wrote:
>
> On 2009-11-20 11:51:45 +0000, Donna Kupp <dk...@charter.net> said:
>
> > ANTINOMIANS ARE THE BAD GUYS
> >
> > No one wants to be called an antinomian because
> > antinomians are known as the bad guys of church history.
> > Since only a few Christians know what an antinomian
> > teaches, many will be shocked when they read the
> > definition and discover that they are one.
d. I think the problem is that
> people confuse the view that one should conduct oneself morally and in
> an upright fashion in accordance with God's will with the view that
> such conduct in and of itself can bring salvation.
>
> Paul, in Romans, is really entirely clear on this. It is faith and
> faith alone that saves; but this certainly does not mean that one
> should keep on sinning. A faithful response to the grace of God should
> involve acting in accordance with his will.
>
> The gift of grace, though, is that our sins are forgiven - wilful or
> not - if we are repentant. Repentance should, of course, involve a
> genuine desire to turn away from sin.


Note: this woman is a heretic who denies the deity of Christ, thinks
we're saved by keeping the 10 commandments--especially the sabbath--and
denies essential after essential of the Christian faith. She flat out
denies the doctrine of salvation by faith alone, and labels it a
doctrine of Satan:

"The strategy of Satan in the modern church has been to make people
believe that they have eternal life the moment they accept Jesus as
their personal Savior."


* * *

Also from her heretical web site:

"No matter how big the church, no matter how many scriptures
they use to prove their doctrine, look for the red flag. If they
have set aside even a part of God's law, they have turned away
from the truth. By the way, the Sabbath is the fourth
commandment. To deny it is to deny the God that has declared
the seventh day to be holy. The Epistle of James teaches that
there is one law with ten parts. If you refuse to obey any part of
it, you are refusing the authority of the lawgiver"


If you were the Judge in the case of the CHURCHMEN VERSUS
THE SABBATH, would you be willing to say that Paul had cancelled
one of the commandments of God based on the evidence you find in
the 14th chapter of Romans?

In our opinion, the evidence from Romans and Zechariah
demands a verdict for Sabbath observance. The church must obey
the Fourth Commandment - that is the only decision that will
uphold the Law of God.

* * *

Donna has also written:

The sabbath commandment makes a distinction between The Creator of the
heavens and the earth and all the gods of the heathen. If you decide
to observe the seventh day sabbath you will be testifying to the world
(including your boss) that you do not believe in evolution; but have
faith in the Creator of the universe to provide for your needs.

Our faith must be tested and approved before we receive the crown of
life.

* * *


Donna has also written:

"...For I the LORD your God am a jealous God ...showing
steadfast love to thousands of those who love Me and KEEP MY
COMMANDMENTS." (Exodus 20:5-6, (2nd commandment)

According to those verses, all who are not keeping the Ten
Commandments of God can be certain that God does not love them.
(Anything contrary is a lie.)"

* * *

Donna also teaches the doctrine of Entire Sanctification, denies that
she ever commits sin, and proclaims that: ONE WILLFUL SIN is blasphemy
of the Holy Spirit, and AN UNFORGIVABLE SIN.

As her site reads about the Unforgivable Sin:

"If one who is born of God has truly repented of committing sin
(chosen to cease from sin) and then deliberately commits sin he has
despised the Holy Spirit, just as the OT the Israelites despised the Law
of God. It is blasphemy!"

And she recently posted:

"When we are converted all past sins are forgiven. After a person is
born-again, only sins of ignorance are forgiven. If a person sins
with knowledge and intent after that time, they have blasphemed
the Holy Spirit and there is no more sacrifice for sin. See Hebrews
6:1-8; Hebrews 10:26-31."


* * *

She and her husband have also rewritten the Gospel of John in order to
DENY CHRIST'S DEITY in its very opening verse:

"In the beginning was Jesus
>
> and Jesus was with THE RULER,
>
> and Jesus was Ruler.
>
> The same was in the beginning with THE RULER."
>John was teaching that Jesus was our Ruler (our theos) and that
>Jesus was with the Father from the very beginning of creation.
>(Not that Jesus was one third of some mysterious and mind-
>boggling "Trinity" that no one had ever heard of.)

* * *

Conclusion: This woman is the worst sort of cultist, denying everything
from the deity of Christ, to the doctrine of salvation by grace through
faith. She uses the words "Brothers and sisters" in her posts, seeking
to slither her way into the fold, representing herself as a part of the
body of Christ. But the truth is, her gospel comes from the mouth of
Satan himself. Point by point, she leads people away from salvation and
into deception and damnation.

As John says, THIS is how we are to treat someone like her who teaches
these heresies:

Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath
not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the
Father and the Son.
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not
into your house, neither bid him God speed:
For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

Andrew

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Nov 21, 2009, 2:32:52 PM11/21/09
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>>> The Seven Deadly Deceptions Of Couof attitudenterfeit Christianity


>>> http://www.freetruth.info
>>
>> The point you make is entirely valid. I think the problem is that
>> people confuse the view that one should conduct oneself morally and in
>> an upright fashion in accordance with God's will with the view that
>> such conduct in and of itself can bring salvation.
>>
>> Paul, in Romans, is really entirely clear on this. It is faith and
>> faith alone that saves; but this certainly does not mean that one
>> should keep on sinning. A faithful response to the grace of God should
>> involve acting in accordance with his will.
>>
>> The gift of grace, though, is that our sins are forgiven - wilful or
>> not - if we are repentant. Repentance should, of course, involve a
>> genuine desire to turn away from sin.
>
> Donna asks Andrew:
>
> Can a Christian continue to deliberately break any of the ten
> commandments (including the sabbath) and still inherit eternal
> life?

Yes - because such a refusal itself constitutes a sin of attitude and
is no less susceptible to grace than any other. If one is ultimately
repentant of such an attitude it can be forgiven. Ultimately, though,
it is for God to judge.

Donna Kupp

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:13:25 PM11/21/09
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" Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness
is righteous, even as he is righteous." 1 John 3:7

Fred A Stover

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Nov 21, 2009, 10:05:39 PM11/21/09
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Donna Kupp wrote:
> ANTINOMIANS ARE THE BAD GUYS


More irrelevant babbling from the ignorant spiritual-slut, Jezebel.

We are to die and let Him live in us, but you say to not let Him live in us.
You say, we, not He, are to live and try to do what He would do if we were
to obey Him.

--
His,

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