Re: Extremists aid plots against Islam! - Jews! No Better Nor Worse Than All Others!
Seon Ferguson
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>> BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related
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>> In article <wOCdnWf1h93bImLX...@westnet.com.au>,
>> seo...@gmail.com says...
>>> "BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in
>>> messagenews:MPG.256986a4b...@news.buckeye-express.com...
>>> > In article <u_SdnbSvncSmB2LX...@westnet.com.au>,
>>> > seo...@gmail.com says...
>>> >> "BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in
>>> >> messagenews:MPG.256961f5a...@news.buckeye-express.com...
>>> >> > In article <Xns9CC3D7558...@walks.like.a.duck>,
>>> >> > n...@e-mail.com.invalid says...
>>> >> >> > "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> relat
>>> >> >> > news:dMOdnXI8qsiJ6WLX...@westnet.com.au:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I guess the Muslims who demanded that the British soldiers be
>>> >> >> > executed in Iran, suicide bombers who kill fellow Muslims, the
>>> >> >> > Muslims who
>>> >> >> > demanded the teacher be executed for allowing her students to
>>> >> >> > name a teddy bear
>>> >> >> > Muhammad, danced on the streets after 911, killed nuns as a
>>> >> >> > result of the
>>> >> >> > Danish cartoons and did other barbaric things were just being
>>> >> >> > paid to
>>> >> >> > distort the image of Islam as well?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Well demonize all them muslims then:
>>> >> >> Demonize all them jews too, you know the ones who use:
>>> >> >> human shields, bury alive, one shot, two kills, pregnant
>>> >> >> women, white phospherous, dense inert metal explosives,
>>> >> >> fleschettes, used against civilians, bulldozing homes
>>> >> >> and people, kidnappings, starvations, water restrictions
>>> >> >> burning of olive groves, ponzi schemes, usury,
>>> >> >> that the kind of thing you got in mind, punk-kin?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Seon should be able to demonize all muslims if he wants to.
>>> >> >
>>> >> But the Bible doesn't tell me to hate Muslims.
>>> >
>>> > Well, that's what makes "Myname" the kook he is,
>>> > believing in the bible in the first place.
>>> >
>>> doesn't that mean he at least believes in the scriptures?
>>>
>> He just appears to be a common variety jew hatin', racist godder.
>
> Jews! No Better Nor Worse Than All Others!
> Free At Last! Thank God, Almighty, The Gentiles Are: FREE At Last! Israel
> out of All NATIONS: GOY: GENTILES!
>
> Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge
> the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his
> adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his
> people. Deuteronomy ch32 v43
>
> Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and
> served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed
> for ever. Amen. Romans ch1 v25
>
> jew tube:
>
> Cold hearted orb, that rules the night, steals the colors
> from our sight, red is grey and yellow white, but in the
> end, you decide, what is right and what is an illusion.
> Moody Blues
>
> Old jews seeking to "Utterly Destroy" a new nation: America?
> America destroyed by design from within?
> America desensitized to judaism.
> America immersed in jew culture decadence to the point it
> can't sense, see, hear nor smell it?
>
> America! A Christian Nation? You couldn't PROVE IT to me.
> Where are all the civilised tribes?
> On Earth: Peace! Good Will Toward: Men!
> Wake Up! Take a look around you America,
> you are DROWNING in perverse decadent jew culture!
> When will you break off the shackles/shekels of the jew oppressor?
> Free at last! Thank God, Almighty! The GENTILES are FREE at last!
>
> Rejoice, O ye NATIONS, with his people: for he will avenge
> the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his
> adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his
> people. Deuteronomy ch32 v43
>
> Nations!: Goy!: Gentiles!
> Nations: Goy: Gentiles are ever in the LORD's mind for salvation!
> Nations: Goy: Gentiles don't WORSHIP: jews.
> NATIONS: GOY: GENTILES are: FREE!
> FREE from the BONDAGE of IDOLATRY that is the WORSHIP of: jews.
> God has SOME out of ALL Nations!: Goy!: Gentiles!
> One IS NOT to WORSHIP another Creature: jews, but,
> the Creator of all that is! The Father: God.
>
> One WORSHIPS ONE GOD; NOT ALL: gods; NOT EVEN All: jews!
>
> We are all called on to be servants one to another but not
> obsequiously subserviant to another by conscription nor
> by force but of: LOVE. This isn't some hierarchal caste
> system . Once ones in, ones in, on salvation equally as
> regards being: equally saved by GOD, the FATHER.
> This isn't about BONDAGE, that is: SLAVERY!
> This isn't about SLAVERY, that is: BONDAGE!
>
> THE NATIONS/GOY/GENTILES/ ARE NOT INFERIOR TO: jews.
>
> ...How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be
> God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him...
> 1st Kings ch18 v21
>
> Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve,
> and one of you is a devil? John ch6 v70
>
> Is there not a usurperous supplanter, a duplicitous deceiver,
> a thief, who cometh not but, for to steal and to kill and to
> DESTROY, a blessing and inheritance, interloper, a robber,
> a purloiner of blessings!?
>
> Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand
> shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children
> shall bow down before thee. Genesis ch49 v8
>
> For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.
> John ch12 v43
>
> Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up:
> he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion;
> who shall rouse him up? Genesis ch49 v9 Survey Said: ...
>
> The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver
> from between his feet, until Shiloh (PEACE) come; and unto
> him shall the gathering of the people be. Genesis ch49 v10
>
> And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men
> with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch
> not the burdens with one of your fingers. Woe unto you! for
> ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers
> killed them. Truly ye bear witness that ye allow the deeds
> of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and ye build
> their sepulchres. Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I
> will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they
> shall slay and persecute: That the blood of all the prophets,
> which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be
> required of this generation; From the blood of Abel unto the
> blood of Zacharias which perished between the altar and the
> temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this
> generation. Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the
> key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that
> were entering in ye hindered. Luke ch11 v46-52
>
> Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel.
> Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path,
> that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall
> backward. I have waited for thy salvation, O LORD.
> Genesis ch49 v16-18
>
> And I will put enmity between thee and the woman,
> and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head,
> and thou shalt bruise his heel. Genesis ch3 v15
>
> And this is the blessing of Judah: and he said, Hear, LORD,
> the voice of Judah, and bring him unto his people: let his
> hands be sufficient for him; and be thou an help to him from
> his enemies. Deuteronomy ch33 v7
>
> And of Dan he said, Dan is a lion's whelp:
> he shall leap from Bashan. Deuteronmy ch33 v22
>
> Now therefore take you twelve men out of the tribes of
> Israel, out of every tribe a man. Jonah ch 3 v12
>
> Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve,
> and one of you is a devil? John ch6 v70
>
> Dan is left out of Revelation.
>
> I know, if, I were the guilty one, I'd be inclined to
> change the text that testified against me, and change
> the curse into a blessing, if it were possible,
> ere the documents were ever in the guilty's hands.
>
> And after these things I saw four angels standing on the
> four corners of the earth, holding the four
> winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the
> earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. And I saw another
> angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living
> God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to
> whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, Saying,
> Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we
> have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And
> I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were
> sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the
> tribes of the children of Israel. Of the tribe of Juda were
> sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed
> twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve
> thousand. Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand.
> Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of
> the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. Of the
> tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of
> Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar
> were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Zabulon were
> sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed
> twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve
> thousand. After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude,
> which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and
> people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the
> Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
> And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God
> which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. And all
> the angels stood round about the throne, and about the
> elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on
> their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, Amen: Blessing, and
> glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power,
> and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. And one
> of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which
> are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said
> unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are
> they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed
> their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
> Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him
> day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the
> throne shall dwell among them. They shall hunger no more,
> neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on
> them, nor any heat. For the Lamb which is in the midst of
> the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living
> fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from
> their eyes. And when he had opened the seventh seal, there
> was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
> Revelation ch7&8 v1
>
> Dan is left out of Revelation.
>
> Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve,
> and one of you is a devil? John ch6 v70
>
> Neither give heed to fables and endless
> genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly
> edifying which is in faith: so do. Now the end of the
> commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good
> conscience, and of faith unfeigned: From which some having
> swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; Desiring to be
> teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say,
> nor whereof they affirm. But we know that the law is good,
> if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not
> made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and
> disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and
> profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,
> for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile
> themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for
> perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is
> contrary to sound doctrine; According to the glorious gospel
> of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust. And I
> thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that
> he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry; Who
> was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious:
> but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in
> unbelief. 1st Timothy ch1 v4-13
>
> Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not
> what they do... Luke ch23 v34
>
> They forgat God their saviour,
> which had done great things in Egypt; Psalms ch106 v21
>
> I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
> Isaiah ch43 v11
>
> Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself,
> O God of Israel, the Saviour. Isaiah ch45 v15
>
> ...there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour;
> there is none beside me. Isaiah ch45 v21
>
> ...I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer,
> the mighty One of Jacob. Isaiah ch49 v26
>
> ...I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer,
> the mighty One of Jacob. Isaiah ch60 v16
>
> Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou
> shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.
> Hosea ch13 v4
>
> Peter, one who was sent said:
>
> And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished,
> as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles
> also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they
> heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then
> answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should
> not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well
> as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of
> the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. And
> the apostles and brethren that were in Judaea heard that the
> Gentiles had also received the word of God. And when Peter
> was come up to Jerusalem, they that were of the circumcision
> contended with him, Saying, Thou wentest in to men
> uncircumcised, and didst eat with them. But Peter rehearsed
> the matter from the beginning, and expounded it by order
> unto them, saying, I was in the city of Joppa praying: and
> in a trance I saw a vision, A certain vessel descend, as it
> had been a great sheet, let down from heaven by four
> corners; and it came even to me: Upon the which when I had
> fastened mine eyes, I considered, and saw fourfooted beasts
> of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and
> fowls of the air. And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise,
> Peter; slay and eat. But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing
> common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth.
> But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath
> cleansed, that call not thou common. And this was done three
> times: and all were drawn up again into heaven. And, behold,
> immediately there were three men already come unto the house
> where I was, sent from Caesarea unto me. And the Spirit bade
> me go with them, nothing doubting. Moreover these six
> brethren accompanied me, and we entered into the man's
> house: And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his
> house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and
> call for Simon, whose surname is Peter; Who shall tell thee
> words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved. And as
> I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at
> the beginning. Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how
> that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall
> be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Forasmuch then as God gave
> them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the
> Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
> When they heard these things, they held their peace, and
> glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles
> granted repentance unto life. Acts ch10 v45-48 & ch11 1-18
>
> But the unbelieving Jews stirred up the Gentiles, and made
> their minds evil affected against the brethren. Acts ch14 v2
>
> And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and
> said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good
> while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my
> mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
> Acts ch15 v7
>
> Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles,
> to take out of them a people for his name. Acts ch15 v14
>
> That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all
> the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord,
> who doeth all these things. Acts ch15 v17
>
> Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which
> from among the Gentiles are turned to God: Acts ch15 v19
>
> And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The
> apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the
> brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and
> Cilicia. Acts ch15 v23
>
> And when they opposed themselves, and blasphemed, he shook
> his raiment, and said unto them, Your blood be upon your own
> heads; I am clean; from henceforth I will go unto the
> Gentiles. Acts ch18 v6
>
> Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the
> heavenly vision: But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and
> at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and
> then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to
> God, and do works meet for repentance. Acts ch26 v19&20
>
> Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this
> day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other
> things than those which the prophets and Moses did say
> should come: That Christ should suffer, and that he should
> be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew
> light unto the people, and to the Gentiles. Acts ch26 v22&23
>
> Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is
> sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it. And when
> he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great
> reasoning among themselves. And Paul dwelt two whole years
> in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto
> him, Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things
> which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence,
> no man forbidding him. Acts ch28 v28-31
>
> ...thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood
> out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
> Revelation ch5 v9
>
> After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no
> man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people,
> and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb,
> clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And
> cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which
> sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
> Revelation ch7 v9&10
>
> ...preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every
> nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
> Revelation ch14 v6
>
> Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for
> thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship
> before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.
> Revelation ch15 v4
>
> ...the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the
> light... Revelation ch21 v24
>
> ...the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and
> yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree
> were for the healing of the nations. Revelation ch22 v2
>
> ...the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit
> and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
> God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him
> in spirit and in truth. John ch4 v23&24
>
> That, the idolatrous jews worshippers leave off!
>
> Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and
> served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed
> for ever. Amen. Romans ch1 v25
> --
> A government, of Israel, by Israel, and, for: Israel.
> But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light:
> for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. The light shineth in darkness;
> and the darkness comprehended it not. The light of the body is the eye:
> if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
> But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness.
> If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that
> darkness!
> Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead,
> and Christ shall give thee light. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is
> light.
Don't Christians believe in the Torah?
BDK
mail.com.invalid says...
I would normally snip a kooktardic raving like the above, but this
latest post is too insane to just snip. How could I decide where to snip
it? It's so damn bizarre.
BTW, Thanks for proving you're just another common variety jew hatin',
racist godder.
--
BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
BDK
seo...@gmail.com says...
You're going to be on old Myname's shit list. Prepare to be gawd
bothered.
Seon Ferguson
>> Don't Christians believe in the Torah?
>>
>>
>
> You're going to be on old Myname's shit list. Prepare to be gawd
> bothered.
>
Torah is so evil isn't the OT so evil?
BDK
seo...@gmail.com says...
He's off the wall insane, so trying to really figure him out isn't going
to really happen.
My Name
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:41:35 -0800
Subject: Jews! No Better Nor Worse Than All Others! Free At Last! Thank God, Almighty, The Gentiles Are: FREE At Last! Israel out of All NATIONS: GOY: GENTILES!
jew tube:
Then said he to another, And how much owest thou? And he
said, An hundred measures of wheat. And he said unto him,
Take thy bill, and write fourscore. And the lord commended
the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the
children of this world are in their generation wiser than
the children of light. Luke ch16 v7&8
Patrick Keenan
news:B7WdnRQW0v3cqZ_W...@westnet.com.au...
Yes, just under another name.
Patrick Keenan
news:MPG.256c42d66...@news.buckeye-express.com...
> In article <V6adnSDPeONM8Z_W...@westnet.com.au>,
> seo...@gmail.com says...
>> >>
>> >> Don't Christians believe in the Torah?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > You're going to be on old Myname's shit list. Prepare to be gawd
>> > bothered.
>> >
>> It's just I don't get it. The Christians used the Torah as the OT so if
>> the
>> Torah is so evil isn't the OT so evil?
>>
>>
>
> He's off the wall insane, so trying to really figure him out isn't going
> to really happen.
That poster does seem to have lurched into a period of much more pronounced
incoherence.
Patrick Keenan
>>>
>>> Don't Christians believe in the Torah?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You're going to be on old Myname's shit list. Prepare to be gawd
>> bothered.
>>
> It's just I don't get it. The Christians used the Torah as the OT
Not quite correct. The Torah does not map directly to the OT; the Torah
contains the first five books of Moses. The OT, depending on who is
publishing a particular edition and translation, has between 39 and 47
books. The OT always contains the books from the Torah - though the
translations significantly alter the meaning of the original texts - and
the order may vary.
> so if the Torah is so evil isn't the OT so evil?
I think you'll find that Christ and His disciples referenced those books
directly.
Seon Ferguson
"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.256c42d66...@news.buckeye-express.com...
> In article <V6adnSDPeONM8Z_W...@westnet.com.au>,
> seo...@gmail.com says...
>> >>
>> >> Don't Christians believe in the Torah?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > You're going to be on old Myname's shit list. Prepare to be gawd
>> > bothered.
>> >
>> It's just I don't get it. The Christians used the Torah as the OT so if
>> the
>> Torah is so evil isn't the OT so evil?
>>
>>
>
> He's off the wall insane, so trying to really figure him out isn't going
> to really happen.
>
Normally I like figuring out what people tick but yeah it won't happen with
My Name.
Seon Ferguson
"Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null> wrote in message
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>
> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:V6adnSDPeONM8Z_W...@westnet.com.au...
>>>>
>>>> Don't Christians believe in the Torah?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You're going to be on old Myname's shit list. Prepare to be gawd
>>> bothered.
>>>
>> It's just I don't get it. The Christians used the Torah as the OT
>
> Not quite correct. The Torah does not map directly to the OT; the Torah
> contains the first five books of Moses. The OT, depending on who is
> publishing a particular edition and translation, has between 39 and 47
> books. The OT always contains the books from the Torah - though the
> translations significantly alter the meaning of the original texts - and
> the order may vary.
>
So the Torah just contains the first 5 books of Moses?
True but that is the same with the Bible. I'm sure the many translations
have lost it's original meaning. It's the same with the Koran.
>> so if the Torah is so evil isn't the OT so evil?
>
> I think you'll find that Christ and His disciples referenced those books
> directly.
>
>
>
And not just the Torah because the Torah wasn't written until after the
gospels were written right?
Seon Ferguson
>> Don't Christians believe in the Torah?
>
> Yes, just under another name.
>
>
Yeah the Old Testament. My point was people like My Name go on about how
evil the Torah is but the books of the Torah are in the Old Testament.
Seon Ferguson
"My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
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>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related
>> news:HPmdnT7j1soH1p7W...@westnet.com.au:
>>
>> My point was people like My Name go on about how evil the
>> Torah is but the books of the Torah are in the Old Testament.
>
> That's Your Judgment. I just quote it.
> I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did.
>
Am I wrong? If so how?
> And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly
> destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of
> every city, we left none to remain: Deuteronomy ch2 v34
>
> And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of
> Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of
> every city. Deuteronomy ch3 v6
>
> And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee;
> thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt
> make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:
> Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter
> thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt
> thou take unto thy son. Deuteronomy ch7 v2&3
>
> Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with
> the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that
> is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the
> sword. Deuteronomy ch13 v15
>
> But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God
> doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive
> nothing that breatheth: But thou shalt utterly destroy them;
> namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and
> the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD
> thy God hath commanded thee: Deuteronomy ch20 v16&17
>
> But Jeshurun waxed fat, and kicked: thou art waxen fat, thou
> art grown thick, thou art covered with fatness; then he
> forsook God which made him, and lightly esteemed the Rock of
> his salvation. They provoked him to jealousy with strange
> gods, with abominations provoked they him to anger. They
> sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew
> not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers
> feared not. Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful,
> and hast forgotten God that formed thee. And when the LORD
> saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his
> sons, and of his daughters. And he said, I will hide my face
> from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are
> a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.
> They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God;
> they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I
> will move them to jealousy with those which are not a
> people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.
> For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the
> lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase,
> and set on fire the foundations of the mountains. I will
> heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon
> them. They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with
> burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send
> the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents
> of the dust. The sword without, and terror within, shall
> destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also
> with the man of gray hairs. I said, I would scatter them
> into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease
> from among men: Were it not that I feared the wrath of the
> enemy, lest their adversaries should behave themselves
> strangely, and lest they should say, Our hand is high, and
> the LORD hath not done all this. For they are a nation void
> of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them. O
> that they were wise, that they understood this, that they
> would consider their latter end! Deuteronomy ch32 v15-29
>
> If YOU find it EVIL, YOU find it EVIL!
> If YOU find it GOOD, YOU find it GOOD!
> If YOU find it ..., YOU find it ...!
>
> Quit LYING! Telling people YOUR VERSION of what I've said.
> What I've said STANDS on its' own.
> People don't need YOU to LIE it up fort them!
> Or any of YOUR crony PUNK-KINS for that matter.
Seon Ferguson
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>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9CC6BCE70...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related
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>>>>
>>>> My point was people like My Name go on about how evil the
>>>> Torah is but the books of the Torah are in the Old Testament.
>>>
>>> That's Your Judgment. I just quote it.
>>> I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did.
>>>
>> Am I wrong? If so how?
>
> Are YOU? What do YOU believe?
>
Can you just explain to me why the Torah is so evil? The Bible uses the same
books it uses. I don't get it.
BDK
mail.com.invalid says...
Tell the truth, you've gone off your meds, haven't you?
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
BDK
mail.com.invalid says...
> > Torah is but the books of the Torah are in the Old Testament.
>
> I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did.
>
ROTFL, you're just so far gone now! I love it when a kook snaps and
becomes a kook squared! A god bothering kook is always good for some
great laughs when he/she goes into a full blown kooktardic rave.
Please, rave on...
BDK
seo...@gmail.com says...
It's really simple though..
1. Bible.
2. Jew hating.
3. Repeat.
Seon Ferguson
"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
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> In article <fP-dnSd__Y6I1J7W...@westnet.com.au>,
> seo...@gmail.com says...
>>
>>
>> "BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.256c42d66...@news.buckeye-express.com...
>> > In article <V6adnSDPeONM8Z_W...@westnet.com.au>,
>> > seo...@gmail.com says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Don't Christians believe in the Torah?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > You're going to be on old Myname's shit list. Prepare to be gawd
>> >> > bothered.
>> >> >
>> >> It's just I don't get it. The Christians used the Torah as the OT so
>> >> if
>> >> the
>> >> Torah is so evil isn't the OT so evil?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > He's off the wall insane, so trying to really figure him out isn't
>> > going
>> > to really happen.
>> >
>> Normally I like figuring out what people tick but yeah it won't happen
>> with
>> My Name.
>>
>>
>
> It's really simple though..
>
> 1. Bible.
> 2. Jew hating.
> 3. Repeat.
> --
>
Even though Jesus was a Jew.
BDK
A lot of the more extreme kooks claim he wasn't. I don't know what
Myname's opinion is on that, but since he paints all jews as evil, he
probably is one of the ones who think he's an "Aryan".
There doesn't seem to be any limit to his insanity.
--
Seon Ferguson
"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
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Some say he was Palestinian. But the fact is he and his followers
(allegedly) obeyed Jewish customs and were practicing Jews. But he did
challenge a few (allegedly) He also talked about the prophets of the OT and
the authors of the gospels talked about OT prophecies (which of course you
have to really try to fit in with Jebus)
Government Shill #2
>In article <fP-dnSd__Y6I1J7W...@westnet.com.au>,
>seo...@gmail.com says...
>>
>>
>> "BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.256c42d66...@news.buckeye-express.com...
>> > In article <V6adnSDPeONM8Z_W...@westnet.com.au>,
>> > seo...@gmail.com says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Don't Christians believe in the Torah?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > You're going to be on old Myname's shit list. Prepare to be gawd
>> >> > bothered.
>> >> >
>> >> It's just I don't get it. The Christians used the Torah as the OT so if
>> >> the
>> >> Torah is so evil isn't the OT so evil?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > He's off the wall insane, so trying to really figure him out isn't going
>> > to really happen.
>> >
>> Normally I like figuring out what people tick but yeah it won't happen with
>> My Name.
>>
>>
>
>It's really simple though..
>
>1. Bible.
>2. Jew hating.
>3. Repeat.
It's funny that these Bible Believers are also conspiracy Believers, yet
they fail to see themselves as victims of the largest conspiracy ever
perpetrated by one human being upon another. Not only that, they see it as
their duty to perpetuate this very same conspiracy on their children and
anyone else they can.
--
Shill #2
"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When
many people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion."
Robert M. Pirsig
BDK
gov....@gmail.com says...
Yeah, they feel they have to pass the virus on. A couple of them that
used to work at our place tried to infect me, but I just told them, "I'm
immune to the stuff you're trying to spread!" When they asked me what
"stuff" was that, I would say, "The insanity of religion, any
religion." Shut them right up.
BDK
mail.com.invalid says...
> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.256d98254...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>
> > he paints all jews as evil
>
>
LOL, got any proof you don't? Your huge amount of jew hatin' posts won't
help your case.
But please, rave on.
My Name
> LIAR!
Jews! No Better Nor Worse Than All Others!
jew tube:
Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham,
and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.
The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan,
and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. And the sons of Gomer;
Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. And the sons of Javan;
Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.
By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands;
every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.
Genesis ch10 v1-5
Divide And Conquer?
Seon Ferguson
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>
>> Jesus was a Jew.
>
> So what?
> That doesn't make all jews GOOD any more than the ATROCITIES
> perpetrated on the PEOPLE of Gaza by Israeli jews makes all
> jews bad.
> --
But it doesn't make all Jews evil. If you say that then Jesus had to have
been evil, which he wasn't.
Seon Ferguson
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>
>> Jesus was a Jew.
>
> So was Judas!
> --
But without Judas Jesus would never have been able to "die for our sins" the
gospel of Judas aside pretend Judas never betrayed him and the Romans never
executed him. How would he have been able to "die for our sins" as you
Christians say? What if God knew he was going to betray him and picked him
for a disciple for that very reason? God knew his nature and was using him?
Hopefully you reply to this SERIOUS theological inquiry.
Seon Ferguson
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>>>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
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>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related
>>>>>> news:HPmdnT7j1soH1p7W...@westnet.com.au:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My point was people like My Name go on about how evil the
>>>>>> Torah is but the books of the Torah are in the Old Testament.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's Your Judgment. I just quote it.
>>>>> I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did.
>>>>>
>>>> Am I wrong? If so how?
>>>
>>> Are YOU? What do YOU believe?
>>>
>> Can you just explain to me why the Torah is so evil?
>
> That is your judgement! How can I explain to YOU, YOUR judgment?
> Don't YOU know YOUR own mind on the matter?
>
But I don't think the Torah is evil. You post these passages from the Torah
to criticise Jews but you Christians believe the same passages are from God
don't you? Or did you leave those passages out?
Seon Ferguson
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>>>
>>>> Jesus was a Jew.
>>>
>>> So was Judas!
>>>
>> But without Judas Jesus would never have been able to "die for our sins"
>> the
>> gospel of Judas aside pretend Judas never betrayed him and the Romans
>> never
>> executed him. How would he have been able to "die for our sins" as you
>> Christians say? What if God knew he was going to betray him and picked
>> him
>> for a disciple for that very reason? God knew his nature and was using
>> him?
>> Hopefully you reply to this SERIOUS theological inquiry.
>
> Reply to what?
> That YOU"VE lyingly mis-represented me again, as per YOUR usual!
> Once again, I must point out that, I don't claim to be Christian.
> As for the rest, I guess YOU think that YOU'VE said something
> deep and insightful, like no one else ever thought of before YOU!
> And, thank god we've got YOU to dredge it up for us, yes?
But if your not a Christian why do you use Biblical passages in your
response? Don't you believe in Jesus? I remember arguing with you before
about his existence and you said I've been believing in this stuff for 40
years. But please forgive me if I got it wrong I'm not trying to miss quote
you.
Seon Ferguson
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>>>>>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Xns9CC6BCE70...@walks.like.a.duck...
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My point was people like My Name go on about how evil the
>>>>>>>> Torah is but the books of the Torah are in the Old Testament.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's Your Judgment. I just quote it.
>>>>>>> I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I wrong? If so how?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are YOU? What do YOU believe?
>>>>>
>>>> Can you just explain to me why the Torah is so evil?
>>>
>>> That is your judgement! How can I explain to YOU, YOUR judgment?
>>> Don't YOU know YOUR own mind on the matter?
>>>
>> But I don't think the Torah is evil.
>
> You just said it was!
> Now you say it isn't!
> Make up your own mind and get back to me when YOUR final
> "set in stone" verdict is in.
>
>> You post these passages from the Torah
>
> So?
>
>> to criticise Jews
>
Why did you break that sentence up when you know "to criticise Jews" would
answer your so?
> Oh, YOU know my motivation, do you? Odd! I hadn't revealed it!
> Maybe, YOU should take YOUR crystal ball into the shop for
> repair or consult some other familiar, a cat, for instance.
> Whatever you do never ask me the reason I do something when
> YOUR made up reasons for me suit YOUR purposes so much better,
> punk-kin.
>
Your signature speaks volumes.
>> but you Christians
>
> There he goes calling me names again.
>
I didn't say Christians as if it was a bad thing.
>> believe the same passages are from God
>
> Again, how the hell do YOU know what I believe or think unless
> I tell it to YOU and I haven't. Hey! What if I hadn't even
> decided yet? Whoa, another false dichotomy of choices BLOWN ALL
> TO HELL, so to speak.
>
Well I thought you were a Christian and Christians believe the Bible is the
word of God.
>> don't you?
>
> Maybe I do and maybe I don't. I'd have to know specifically
> what you are referring to, to answer, and YOU are always shy
> about being tied down to anything specifically!
> We'll 2 can play that game.
>
"believe the same passages are from God don't you?" yet again you cut up a
paragraph on purpose when if you left the sentence alone it would have
answered your question. Why?
> And besides all that, why should I reveal anything to you?
> YOU under the illusion I like YOU or something? I don't think so!
> YOU under the illusion I owe YOU something? I don't think so!
> So what makes YOU think that, I ought to REVEAL anything to you,
> someone whom, I don't even like?
>
Why would i be under that illusion?, I don't even know you.
>> Or did you leave those passages out?
>
> Nice lack of specificity.
> The only one that knows what you are talking about is you.
>
> See how I keep avoiding walking into YOUR traps by refusing
> to presume I know what the hell you are talking about and then
> going off all half-cocked, so to speak, and running with it,
> in some direction therby only revealing things about myself,
> what my inferences must be based upon the direction I ran with
> it. As, YOU'VE never said anything specifically and every time
> YOU do YOU deny YOU said it even when it is right there in
> black and white, that YOU did in FACT say it! You are too
> dishonest for me to have an honest conversation with.
>
So is that why you resort to those dishonest troll tactics?
> You get the feeliing yet that, YOU are not gonna get a
> specific answer out of me until YOU ask a specific question
> and maybe not then either as, after all: It is up to ME
> whether I deign to reply to you at all or not.
> Or, hadn't you noticed?
BDK
mail.com.invalid says...
> >> he paints all jews as evil
>
> > LIAR!
>
> Jews! No Better Nor Worse Than All Others!
If true, why do you have the sig you do, and why do nearly all your
posts negatively portray jews?
I liked it.
Oodles and oodles of kooktardic ravings.
Rave on, young kook, rave on!
BDK
seo...@gmail.com says...
Like it matters. He's a totally off the wall loon, who can't seem to
even understand what he's claiming he believes.
It takes a serious kook to do that.
--
BDK
mail.com.invalid says...
> > "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related news:haKdnR8wGpFDFpnW...@westnet.com.au:
> > "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9CC7A9163...@walks.like.a.duck...
> >>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related news:xOKdnRUfSszy6ZnW...@westnet.com.au:
> >>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9CC772349...@walks.like.a.duck...
> >>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related news:ssOdnfE2_ZVZCJ7W...@westnet.com.au:
> >>>>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9CC6CCA49...@walks.like.a.duck...
> >>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related news:8dydnROt2s3ywZ7W...@westnet.com.au:
> >>>>>>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9CC6BCE70...@walks.like.a.duck...
> >>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related news:HPmdnT7j1soH1p7W...@westnet.com.au:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> My point was people like My Name go on about how evil the
> >>>>>>>>> Torah is but the books of the Torah are in the Old Testament.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That's Your Judgment. I just quote it.
> >>>>>>>> I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Am I wrong? If so how?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Are YOU? What do YOU believe?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Can you just explain to me why the Torah is so evil?
> >>>>
> >>>> That is your judgement! How can I explain to YOU, YOUR judgment?
> >>>> Don't YOU know YOUR own mind on the matter?
> >>>>
> >>> But I don't think the Torah is evil.
> >>
> >> You just said it was!
> >> Now you say it isn't!
> >> Make up your own mind and get back to me when YOUR final
> >> "set in stone" verdict is in.
>
> then, claim that you don't? Explain yourself, please
>
> >>> You post these passages from the Torah
> >>
> >> So?
> >>
> >>> to criticise Jews
> >>
> > Why did you break that sentence up when you know "to criticise Jews" would
> > answer your so?
>
> That: Is not: my answer! That is YOUR answer!
>
> >> Oh, YOU know my motivation, do you? Odd! I hadn't revealed it!
> >> Maybe, YOU should take YOUR crystal ball into the shop for
> >> repair or consult some other familiar, a cat, for instance.
> >> Whatever you do never ask me the reason I do something when
> >> YOUR made up reasons for me suit YOUR purposes so much better,
> >> punk-kin.
> >>
> > Your signature speaks volumes.
>
>
> >>> but you Christians
> >>
> >> There he goes calling me names again.
> >>
> > I didn't say Christians as if it was a bad thing.
>
>
> >>> believe the same passages are from God
>
> Maybe you ain't noticed, I don't fit most folks idea of a Christian.
> And, I don't claim to be Christian.
> IT doesn't seem to me that you know what most people think about anything,
> necessarily. Although, you'd like to "think" that you do.
> It seems to me that you want to make a blanket statement generalization about
> all "Christians"! Well, what if I don't want to fit into your pigeon hole?
> >> Again, how the hell do YOU know what I believe or think unless
> >> I tell it to YOU and I haven't. Hey! What if I hadn't even
> >> decided yet? Whoa, another false dichotomy of choices BLOWN ALL
> >> TO HELL, so to speak.
> >>
> > Well I thought you were a Christian and Christians believe the Bible is the
> > word of God.
>
> Answer your question?
>
> I have to know precisely what you refer to to answer your question.
> It always helps to quote exactly the passage you have a question about.
> Maybe your question is: Do I think/believe that the bible is HOLY
> and undefiled? The answer, I can tell you, to that question is: NO!
>
> It's about as HOLY, as the holy land, if you get the drift you know,
> into homosexuality on parade and every other kind of abomination
> hateful bird, witchcraft, idolatry. The Bible even says so.
>
> >>> don't you?
>
> See?
> Assumption suck! Don't they?
>
> >> Maybe I do and maybe I don't. I'd have to know specifically
> >> what you are referring to, to answer, and YOU are always shy
> >> about being tied down to anything specifically!
> >> We'll 2 can play that game.
> >>
> > "believe the same passages are from God don't you?"
>
> It always helps to quote the passages you refer to so that there is
> no doubt as to what you refer.
> Maybe you should just start freshh clearly state your question qouting
> the passages you have a question about "my personal opinion" on.
> And, why is my opinion of so much interest to you?
> It might help me if I knew what you are trying to ascertain.
> Then, we'll see if it is answerable or not.
> > yet again you cut up a paragraph on purpose when if you left the sentence
> > alone it would have answered your question. Why?
>
> precisely what it refers. And, what are you driving at?
> It always helps to quote the passages you refer to so that there is
> no doubt as to what you refer. And, what are you driving at?
> Reconfigure it any way you want just ask a straight question!
> >> And besides all that, why should I reveal anything to you?
> >> YOU under the illusion I like YOU or something? I don't think so!
> >> YOU under the illusion I owe YOU something? I don't think so!
> >> So what makes YOU think that, I ought to REVEAL anything to you,
> >> someone whom, I don't even like?
> >>
> > Why would i be under that illusion?, I don't even know you.
>
>
> >>> Or did you leave those passages out?
>
> no doubt as to what you refer. And, what are you driving at?
>
> >> Nice lack of specificity.
>
> It always helps to quote the passages you refer to so that there is
> no doubt as to what you refer. And, what are you driving at?
>
> >> The only one that knows what you are talking about is you.
>
> no doubt as to what you refer. And, what are you driving at?
>
> >> See how I keep avoiding walking into YOUR traps by refusing
> >> to presume I know what the hell you are talking about and then
> >> going off all half-cocked, so to speak, and running with it,
> >> in some direction therby only revealing things about myself,
> >> what my inferences must be based upon the direction I ran with
> >> it. As, YOU'VE never said anything specifically and every time
> >> YOU do YOU deny YOU said it even when it is right there in
> >> black and white, that YOU did in FACT say it! You are too
> >> dishonest for me to have an honest conversation with.
> >>
> > So is that why you resort to those dishonest troll tactics?
>
> Don't ask me questions. Sheesh! It's: bitch bitch bitch with: you
> Who's trolling whom and for what reason, eh?
> I'm certainly not trolling you.
> I'm fine with you and your ilk not replying to me. MmmKay punk-kin?
ROTFL, it appears you've taken a double does of "Kooktardex" today.
Wow.
My Name
> In article <Xns9CC77F8B5...@walks.like.a.duck>, n...@e-mail.com.invalid says...
>> >> he paints all jews as evil
>>
>> > LIAR!
>>
>> Jews! No Better Nor Worse Than All Others!
>
If the news is negative: REPENT
Make PEACE! Not WAR!
BDK
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> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.256eac8c5...@news.buckeye-express.com:
> > In article <Xns9CC77F8B5...@walks.like.a.duck>, n...@e-mail.com.invalid says...
> >> >> he paints all jews as evil
> >>
> >> > LIAR!
> >>
> >> Jews! No Better Nor Worse Than All Others!
> >
> > why do nearly all your posts negatively portray jews?
>
> If the news is negative: REPENT
> Make PEACE! Not WAR!
And you're not a christian?
BTW, tell the Palestinians too.
--
BDK..
My Name
> In article <Xns9CC7F0030...@walks.like.a.duck>, n...@e-mail.com.invalid says...
>> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.256eac8c5...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>> > In article <Xns9CC77F8B5...@walks.like.a.duck>, n...@e-mail.com.invalid says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> he paints all jews as evil
>>>>
>>>> > LIAR!
>>>>
>>>> Jews! No Better Nor Worse Than All Others!
>>>
>>> why do nearly all your posts negatively portray jews?
>>
>> If the news is negative: REPENT
>> Make PEACE! Not WAR!
>
> And you're not a christian?
YOU can't leave what I say alone, can you?
YOU have to twist it! I'll repeat it for YOU!
I said: I do not claim to be: Christian.
Can 't YOU leave it at that? Ok, let's do it all again.
Christian, means: Christ-Like. Christ, means: Messiah.
Ergo, Christian not only means: Christ-Like,
It also means: Messiah-Like!
All these positions/titles/monikers are too lofty for little
ol' me to crown myself with, thank you very much, anyway.
> BTW, tell the Palestinians too.
You tell them! I'll tell the source of the problem of lack
of PEACE in Israel, the: jews! Who use Palestinian People as
human shields, bury them alive, one shot, two kills, pregnant
women, white phospherous, dense inert metal explosives,
fleschettes, used against civilians, bulldozing homes and
people, kidnappings, starvations, water restrictions, burning
of olive groves, ponzi schemes, usury, land grabs, and so on
and so forth.
Interesting to note that no amount jew atrocities bothers YOU
jew psychopaths! It's always: "Blame The Victim" you jew
lawyers invented that gambit too! Yeah, yeah, yeah, you and
you're ilk are not jews. Right! punk-kins. Remember: Plausible
Deniability, punk-kin! Plausible Deniability! And, y'all ain't
got none! How about accepting responsibility for your actions?
How about some sympathy, empathy for the PLIGHT of the POOR
Palestinian People? None Forth-Coming, Huh?
How about admitting the truth: You are in it to:
UTTERLY DESTROY NON-JEWS and take the whole earth that god
gave you! Hey! punk-kin! Where are those PROOF OF GOD TEN
COMMANDMENTS? It sure would go a long way in helping you jews
PROVE YOUR CASE! One wouldn't think that one would lose
something of such EVIDENTIARY IMPORTANCE would one?
Still: The Non-jews would have to buy into your 6,000 year old
campaign to subdue the whole earth under the jew, wouldn't one?
Which, of course, means that every one who thinks that the old
is passed away and no longer in effect is WRONG! And that,
they would have to acquiesce, to bow to YOU, the collective:
jew. I TROW: NOT! Jews! No better, nor worse than anyone else!
They became indistinguishable from the inhabitants of the land
which they were covenanted to "utterly destroy"!
YOU broke the old covenant right away, but you still think
that you have an agreement after having violated the terms of
the agreement: the utter destruction of the inhabitants of the
land. And so, you: the jew, continue to seek to utterly destroy
the inhabitants of the land. That makes you, the: jew the
problem and that is why the solution is directed at you, the:
jew! Makes sense to me.
What are you going to do? Sue God For "Specific Performance"?
>> >> Free At Last! Thank God, Almighty, The Gentiles Are: FREE At Last!
Patrick Keenan
>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related
>> news:xOKdnRUfSszy6ZnW...@westnet.com.au:
>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9CC772349...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related
>>>> news:ssOdnfE2_ZVZCJ7W...@westnet.com.au:
>>>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns9CC6CCA49...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related
>>>>>> news:8dydnROt2s3ywZ7W...@westnet.com.au:
>>>>>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Xns9CC6BCE70...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related
>>>>>>>> news:HPmdnT7j1soH1p7W...@westnet.com.au:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My point was people like My Name go on about how evil the
>>>>>>>> Torah is but the books of the Torah are in the Old Testament.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's Your Judgment. I just quote it.
>>>>>>> I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I wrong? If so how?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are YOU? What do YOU believe?
>>>>>
>>>> Can you just explain to me why the Torah is so evil?
>>>
>>> That is your judgement! How can I explain to YOU, YOUR judgment?
>>> Don't YOU know YOUR own mind on the matter?
>>>
>> But I don't think the Torah is evil.
>
Actually, he didn't. You see, following the normal use and sentence
structure of the English language, Seon is referring to his understanding
that your posts are intended to show that the Torah is evil.
He's not making a claim - he's asking about what he thinks is your claim.
Seon is referring to *his* understanding of *your* words, and frankly, it
does appear that his understanding is justified. There is little to
nothing in what you post that seems to inform any sort of balanced view.
So, he has two quite simple questions. The first is whether or not you do
actually believe that the Torah is evil. The second is why.
You seem to have a very hard time answering the first one clearly, though it
takes only a yes or no.
If you are having problems with the language, might I suggest education?
-pk
Patrick Keenan
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>
>
> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CC6CCA49...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related
>>> news:8dydnROt2s3ywZ7W...@westnet.com.au:
>>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9CC6BCE70...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related
>>>>> news:HPmdnT7j1soH1p7W...@westnet.com.au:
>>>>>
>>>>> My point was people like My Name go on about how evil the
>>>>> Torah is but the books of the Torah are in the Old Testament.
>>>>
>>>> That's Your Judgment. I just quote it.
>>>> I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did.
>>>>
>>> Am I wrong? If so how?
>>
>> Are YOU? What do YOU believe?
>>
> Can you just explain to me why the Torah is so evil?
No, he or she can't, because he or she can't even bring themselves to
honestly answer the question.
Answering either way challenges what are apparently their belief systems:
If the answer is yes, they attack the basis of the Christianity they
apparently espouse. If they answer no, they deny the basis of the negative
image of Jews they apparently hold.
> The Bible uses the same books it uses.
Which is the fundamental contradiction they cannot deal with. That's why
they cannot give a straight answer.
> I don't get it.
You won't get it if you think you are dealing with rational behaviour.
Hope this helps.
-pk
My Name
> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9CC7A9163...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related news:xOKdnRUfSszy6ZnW...@westnet.com.au:
>>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9CC772349...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related news:ssOdnfE2_ZVZCJ7W...@westnet.com.au:
>>>>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9CC6CCA49...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related news:8dydnROt2s3ywZ7W...@westnet.com.au:
>>>>>>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9CC6BCE70...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related news:HPmdnT7j1soH1p7W...@westnet.com.au:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My point was people like My Name go on about how evil the
>>>>>>>>> Torah is but the books of the Torah are in the Old Testament.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's Your Judgment. I just quote it.
>>>>>>>> I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am I wrong? If so how?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are YOU? What do YOU believe?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Can you just explain to me why the Torah is so evil?
>>>>
>>>> That is your judgement! How can I explain to YOU, YOUR judgment?
>>>> Don't YOU know YOUR own mind on the matter?
>>>>
>>> But I don't think the Torah is evil.
>>
>> You just said it was!
>> Make up your own mind and get back to me when YOUR final
>> "set in stone" verdict is in.
> Actually, he didn't.
Yes! He did!
> You see,
Yes! I do See, That He Did! Now Answer My Question.
"Have you figured out yet, how you, call the torah evil,
then, claim that you don't? Explain yourself, please"
Get busy and get my my answer, boy!
> following the normal use and sentence
> structure of the English language, Seon is referring to his understanding
> that your posts are intended to show that the Torah is evil.
YOU mean: "misrepresentation"! I despise: YOUR LIES!
> He's not making a claim - he's asking about what he thinks is your claim.
Doesn't know how to ask a question after having been given
specific instructions, eh? No Comment.
> Seon is referring to *his* understanding of *your* words,
YOU "read his mind" REAL GOOD! YOU TALK for him REAL GOOD TOO! Don't: YOU?
> and frankly, it does appear that his understanding is justified.
FY!
NO! IT: DOESN'T!
This is WAY OLD ground that has been covered so many times
that, it has a well worn path in it!
> There is little to
> nothing in what you post that seems to inform any sort of balanced view.
Whaa! I know you jews ain't used to anyone hearing/seeing/telling
any opposing point of view but, that is what it is called.
The other side of the story. Going from narrative to discourse.
The opposing POV, presented for fairness and balance. Let there be:
The opposing point of view POV so that, there may be a dialog.
Maybe somebody even gets shamed into having to make PEACE with
their NEIGHBORS and LIVE HARMONIOUSLY or be EXPELLED from The
Land. That's right! May the land cleanse itself, from all
UNPEACEFUL inhabitants, EXPUNGE the OFFENDERS! Live in PEACE!
Or: ELSE! In other words IOW. Let there be consequences taken
against anyone who violates the PEACE. Anyone: SPECIFICALLY.
Not: anyone generally! Declare: PEACE! And: ENSUE: IT!
Violaters expelled from the land. A nice land purge.
Sounds about right to me. Biblical Even! Who knows,
the way things are going, at this rate, the land may just
cleanse itself from all unrighteousness.
It would be such a God-Like thing to do.
A Sodom and Gomorrah kind of thing to do when, the land/earth is
filled with violence and abominations.
> So, he has two quite simple questions.
Mute is he?
> The first is whether or not you do
> actually believe that the Torah is evil. The second is why.
ASKED, AND: ANSWERED! I ALREADY ANSWERED THAT QUESTION. MANY TIMES!
YOU PEOPLE actually read any of this stuff or just blow it off
in your smug high-mindedness, thinking that, you already KNOW IT ALL?
> You seem to have a very hard time answering the first one clearly, though it
> takes only a yes or no.
MAYBE: YOU JUST DON'T LIKE/ACCEPT MY ANSWER, HMM?
> If you are having problems with the language, might I suggest education?
What! Do you love redundancy?
Maybe you, the interloper, are the one who requires the remedial reading.
I have said: I don't make that judgement. I have said. MANY TIMES:
"I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did."
Matter of FACT: It is right in the beginning of this very post
as quoted! What are YOU? Blind Pharissee or don't YOU know
what it MEANS when I say that: I DON"T PASS JUDGMENT ON IT!
And! What's it to YOU, anyway, punk-kin?
My Name
> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ssOdnfE2_ZVZCJ7W...@westnet.com.au...
>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9CC6CCA49...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related news:8dydnROt2s3ywZ7W...@westnet.com.au:
>>>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9CC6BCE70...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related news:HPmdnT7j1soH1p7W...@westnet.com.au:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My point was people like My Name go on about how evil the
>>>>>> Torah is but the books of the Torah are in the Old Testament.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's Your Judgment. I just quote it.
>>>>> I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did.
>>>>>
>>>> Am I wrong? If so how?
>>>
>>> Are YOU? What do YOU believe?
>>>
>> Can you just explain to me why the Torah is so evil?
>
> No, he or she can't
HEY! IDIOT! You might want to take a look at this post here:
Message-ID: <Xns9CC8B8D3F...@walks.like.a.duck>
Oh the heck with it, I'll just repost it here for YOU as well:
YOUR WELCOME: punk-kin
>>>>>>>>> My point was people like My Name go on about how evil the
>>>>>>>>> Torah is but the books of the Torah are in the Old Testament.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's Your Judgment. I just quote it.
>>>>>>>> I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am I wrong? If so how?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are YOU? What do YOU believe?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Can you just explain to me why the Torah is so evil?
>>>>
> Actually, he didn't.
Yes! He did!
> You see,
Mute is he?
"I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did."
BDK
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> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.256ec6d25...@news.buckeye-express.com:
> > In article <Xns9CC7F0030...@walks.like.a.duck>, n...@e-mail.com.invalid says...
> >> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.256eac8c5...@news.buckeye-express.com:
> >> > In article <Xns9CC77F8B5...@walks.like.a.duck>, n...@e-mail.com.invalid says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> he paints all jews as evil
> >>>>
> >>>> > LIAR!
> >>>>
> >>>> Jews! No Better Nor Worse Than All Others!
> >>>
> >>> why do nearly all your posts negatively portray jews?
> >>
> >> If the news is negative: REPENT
> >> Make PEACE! Not WAR!
> >
> > And you're not a christian?
>
> YOU can't leave what I say alone, can you?
It's hard when you're as insane as you've been lately.
> YOU have to twist it! I'll repeat it for YOU!
> I said: I do not claim to be: Christian.
You don't claim to be a christian, but everyone reading your rants would
consider you one.
> Can 't YOU leave it at that? Ok, let's do it all again.
> Christian, means: Christ-Like. Christ, means: Messiah.
> Ergo, Christian not only means: Christ-Like,
> It also means: Messiah-Like!
> All these positions/titles/monikers are too lofty for little
> ol' me to crown myself with, thank you very much, anyway.
How about crowning you the Godder King?
>
> > BTW, tell the Palestinians too.
>
> You tell them! I'll tell the source of the problem of lack
> of PEACE in Israel, the: jews! Who use Palestinian People as
> human shields, bury them alive, one shot, two kills, pregnant
> women, white phospherous, dense inert metal explosives,
> fleschettes, used against civilians, bulldozing homes and
> people, kidnappings, starvations, water restrictions, burning
> of olive groves, ponzi schemes, usury, land grabs, and so on
> and so forth.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA! Over the top should be your middle name.
>
> Interesting to note that no amount jew atrocities bothers YOU
> jew psychopaths! It's always: "Blame The Victim" you jew
> lawyers invented that gambit too!
Um, I'm neither a jew, or a lawyer.
> Yeah, yeah, yeah, you and you're ilk are not jews. Right! punk-kins.
That's right, I'm just not an insane, jew hating loon, like yourself..
> Remember: Plausible Deniability, punk-kin! Plausible Deniability! And, y'all ain't
> got none! How about accepting responsibility for your actions?
For my actions? All I've done is point out your jew hatin kooktardery.
What jews do has nothing to do with me.
> How about some sympathy, empathy for the PLIGHT of the POOR
> Palestinian People? None Forth-Coming, Huh?
I feel sorry for the innocents on both sides who get stuck in the
middle, like the kids and stuff, but if the Pals wouldn't allow attacks
to be launched from their territory, the Israelis wouldn't be
retaliating, and killing them. But in your "mind", the evil Israeli's
shouldn't be allowed to retaliate when attacks, because they're jews,
right?
>
> How about admitting the truth: You are in it to:
> UTTERLY DESTROY NON-JEWS and take the whole earth that god
> gave you!
If I was in it to destroy non jews, that would mean destroying myself,
so I don't think I would like that much. You might be into suicide, but
I'm not. Who knows what you're into? I don't even want to know, a lot of
you godders are into all kinds of kinky stuff.
> Hey! punk-kin! Where are those PROOF OF GOD TEN
> COMMANDMENTS?
Proof? I don't believe there's proof of anything in the
bible/torah/koran, etc.
> It sure would go a long way in helping you jews
> PROVE YOUR CASE!
The only thing being proved is that you're insane.
> One wouldn't think that one would lose
> something of such EVIDENTIARY IMPORTANCE would one?
I wish I had the slightest clue what you're talking about.
>
> Still: The Non-jews would have to buy into your 6,000 year old
> campaign to subdue the whole earth under the jew, wouldn't one?
First, the jews and non jews would have to buy into the insane idea that
the jew have a plot to subdue the Earth in the first place. Most people
aren't that batshit crazy.
>
> Which, of course, means that every one who thinks that the old
> is passed away and no longer in effect is WRONG! And that,
> they would have to acquiesce, to bow to YOU, the collective:
> jew.
Except I'm not a jew, loon.
> I TROW: NOT! Jews! No better, nor worse than anyone else!
You trow? Underhand or overhand?
> They became indistinguishable from the inhabitants of the land
> which they were covenanted to "utterly destroy"!
Nobody, except a few religious fanatics and bigots, wants to destroy
anyone.
>
> YOU broke the old covenant right away, but you still think
> that you have an agreement after having violated the terms of
> the agreement: the utter destruction of the inhabitants of the
> land. And so, you: the jew, continue to seek to utterly destroy
> the inhabitants of the land. That makes you, the: jew the
> problem and that is why the solution is directed at you, the:
> jew! Makes sense to me.
Of course it does, you're the one imagining it.
>
> What are you going to do? Sue God For "Specific Performance"?
God is a fictional character. I might as well sue Bugs Bunny.
>
> And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly
> destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of
> every city, we left none to remain: Deuteronomy ch2 v34
Bible babble....yawn.
I think you took a triple does of "Kooktardex" today, didn't you?
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
And now, I'll just let you rave away, to yourself...
Said the lobotomist to your parents. He really thought it would help.
Seon Ferguson
"Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null> wrote in message
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> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ssOdnfE2_ZVZCJ7W...@westnet.com.au...
>>
>>
>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9CC6CCA49...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related
>>>> news:8dydnROt2s3ywZ7W...@westnet.com.au:
>>>> "My Name" <n...@e-mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns9CC6BCE70...@walks.like.a.duck...
>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> related
>>>>>> news:HPmdnT7j1soH1p7W...@westnet.com.au:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My point was people like My Name go on about how evil the
>>>>>> Torah is but the books of the Torah are in the Old Testament.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's Your Judgment. I just quote it.
>>>>> I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did.
>>>>>
>>>> Am I wrong? If so how?
>>>
>>> Are YOU? What do YOU believe?
>>>
>> Can you just explain to me why the Torah is so evil?
>
> No, he or she can't, because he or she can't even bring themselves to
> honestly answer the question.
>
> Answering either way challenges what are apparently their belief systems:
> If the answer is yes, they attack the basis of the Christianity they
> apparently espouse. If they answer no, they deny the basis of the
> negative image of Jews they apparently hold.
>
Exactly.
>> The Bible uses the same books it uses.
>
> Which is the fundamental contradiction they cannot deal with. That's why
> they cannot give a straight answer.
>
He has but I decided not to bother with him as he seems to hold some sort of
grudge...
My Name
> In article <Xns9CC882C36...@walks.like.a.duck>, n...@e-mail.com.invalid says...
>> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.256ec6d25...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>> > In article <Xns9CC7F0030...@walks.like.a.duck>, n...@e-mail.com.invalid says...
>> >> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.256eac8c5...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>> >> > In article <Xns9CC77F8B5...@walks.like.a.duck>, n...@e-mail.com.invalid says...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> he paints all jews as evil
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > LIAR!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jews! No Better Nor Worse Than All Others!
>> >>>
>> >>> why do nearly all your posts negatively portray jews?
>> >>
>> >> If the news is negative: REPENT
>> >> Make PEACE! Not WAR!
>> >
>> > And you're not a christian?
>>
>> YOU can't leave what I say alone, can you?
>
> It's hard when you're as insane as you've been lately.
UNSUBSTANTIATED
>> YOU have to twist it! I'll repeat it for YOU!
>> I said: I do not claim to be: Christian.
>
> You don't claim to be a christian, but everyone reading your rants would
> consider you one.
SO?
>> Can 't YOU leave it at that? Ok, let's do it all again.
>> Christian, means: Christ-Like. Christ, means: Messiah.
>> Ergo, Christian not only means: Christ-Like,
>> It also means: Messiah-Like!
>> All these positions/titles/monikers are too lofty for little
>> ol' me to crown myself with, thank you very much, anyway.
>
> How about crowning you the Godder King?
What meaneth this?
>> > BTW, tell the Palestinians too.
>>
>> You tell them! I'll tell the source of the problem of lack
>> of PEACE in Israel, the: jews! Who use Palestinian People as
>> human shields, bury them alive, one shot, two kills, pregnant
>> women, white phospherous, dense inert metal explosives,
>> fleschettes, used against civilians, bulldozing homes and
>> people, kidnappings, starvations, water restrictions, burning
>> of olive groves, ponzi schemes, usury, land grabs, and so on
>> and so forth.
>
> BWHAHAHAHAHAHA! Over the top should be your middle name.
What meaneth this?
>> Interesting to note that no amount jew atrocities bothers YOU
>> jew psychopaths! It's always: "Blame The Victim" you jew
>> lawyers invented that gambit too!
>
> Um, I'm neither a jew, or a lawyer.
Thou hast said.
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah, you and you're ilk are not jews. Right! punk-kins.
>
> That's right, I'm just not an insane, jew hating loon, like yourself..
Thou hast said.
>> Remember: Plausible Deniability, punk-kin! Plausible Deniability! And, y'all ain't
>> got none! How about accepting responsibility for your actions?
>
> For my actions? All I've done is point out your jew hatin kooktardery.
> What jews do has nothing to do with me.
Thou hast said.
>> How about some sympathy, empathy for the PLIGHT of the POOR
>> Palestinian People? None Forth-Coming, Huh?
>
> I feel sorry for the innocents on both sides who get stuck in the
> middle, like the kids and stuff,
Thou hast said and the first I've heard of it.
Are you able to see clearly through your tears?
> but if the Pals wouldn't allow attacks to be launched from
> their territory, the Israelis wouldn't be retaliating,
> and killing them.
Thou hast said.
> But in your "mind", the evil Israeli's shouldn't be allowed
> to retaliate when attacks, because they're jews, right?
Thou hast said.
>> How about admitting the truth: You are in it to:
>> UTTERLY DESTROY NON-JEWS and take the whole earth that god
>> gave you!
>
> If I was in it to destroy non jews, that would mean destroying myself,
> so I don't think I would like that much. You might be into suicide, but
> I'm not. Who knows what you're into? I don't even want to know, a lot of
> you godders are into all kinds of kinky stuff.
Thou hast said.
>> Hey! punk-kin! Where are those PROOF OF GOD TEN
>> COMMANDMENTS?
>
> Proof? I don't believe there's proof of anything in the
> bible/torah/koran, etc.
Thou hast said.
>> It sure would go a long way in helping you jews
>> PROVE YOUR CASE!
>
> The only thing being proved is that you're insane.
Thou hast said.
>> One wouldn't think that one would lose
>> something of such EVIDENTIARY IMPORTANCE would one?
>
> I wish I had the slightest clue what you're talking about.
You see: The Actual Ten Commandements Written With "The Finger
Of God" would go along way toward proving Israeli claims!
OtherWise all we have are Self Serving jew claims.
UNSUBSTANTIATED! You know like the ones YOU and YOUR ilk make.
Now any one with a lick of sense knows that, that is not the
kind of thing one should lose track of! Especially when YOU
are claiming GOD GAVE YOU SOMETHING. After all, the indigenous
inhabitants of the land were there FIRST! If you want the
whole world to believe YOU and HELP YOU shouldn't YOU produce
the PROOF OF YOUR CLAIM?
>> Still: The Non-jews would have to buy into your 6,000 year old
>> campaign to subdue the whole earth under the jew, wouldn't one?
>
> First, the jews and non jews would have to buy into the insane idea that
> the jew have a plot to subdue the Earth in the first place. Most people
> aren't that batshit crazy.
Thou hast said.
>> Which, of course, means that every one who thinks that the old
>> is passed away and no longer in effect is WRONG! And that,
>> they would have to acquiesce, to bow to YOU, the collective:
>> jew.
>
> Except I'm not a jew, loon.
Thou hast said.
>> I TROW: NOT! Jews! No better, nor worse than anyone else!
>
> You trow? Underhand or overhand?
Learn the language.
>> They became indistinguishable from the inhabitants of the land
>> which they were covenanted to "utterly destroy"!
>
> Nobody, except a few religious fanatics and bigots, wants to destroy
> anyone.
Thou hast said.
>> YOU broke the old covenant right away, but you still think
>> that you have an agreement after having violated the terms of
>> the agreement: the utter destruction of the inhabitants of the
>> land. And so, you: the jew, continue to seek to utterly destroy
>> the inhabitants of the land. That makes you, the: jew the
>> problem and that is why the solution is directed at you, the:
>> jew! Makes sense to me.
>
> Of course it does, you're the one imagining it.
Maybe you'd better check the news instead of laughing like an
idiot and dismissing it. Here's some now:
New Israeli homes 'last nail in the coffin'
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:20:04 GMT
A general view of the Israeli settlement of Gilo in southern
East Jerusalem (Al-Quds), November 18, 2009.
http://www.presstv.ir/photo/20091119/shamseddin20091119092419468.jpg
Former Palestinian prime minister Ahmed Qureia calls
Israel's plan to build more housing units in Gilo the "final
nail in the peace process' coffin".
"This proves that the international community must realize
that our statements regarding the collapse of the two-state
solution are not slogans," Qureia urged.
On Tuesday, Israel announced plans to construct 900 homes in
Gilo, one of a dozen settlements in the illegally annexed
East Jerusalem Al-Quds in the occupied West Bank.
Qureia, a member of the Palestinian Liberation
Organization's Executive Committee, warned the failed peace
process would bring about "an eternal conflict that will
lead the region and the entire world towards instability."
The Israeli move came under fire from the international
community for complicating the already stalled Middle East
peace negotiations and putting a kibosh on international
peace efforts.
Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said the
controversial decision clearly illustrated "why hopes for
salvaging two-state solution and restarting genuine
negotiations are rapidly fading, and why Israel is not a
partner for peace."
The Palestinians have been calling for a halt to the Israeli
settlement expansion in the West Bank and East Jerusalem Al-
Quds before any peace talks with Tel Aviv.
The Palestinians consider the Israeli-occupied land, home to
the Al-Aqsa Mosque - Muslims' third holy site - and the Dome
of Rock, as the capital of their homeland, fearing Israel's
continued settlement expansion on land will ruin chances of
establishing a viable Palestinian state.
Israel's ultra-Orthodox Jews, on the other hand, fiercely
oppose admitting the Palestinian identity of the city,
claiming a "God-given right" to Jerusalem Al-Quds as their
"eternal capital".
"Israel is looking to bolster the settlements at the expense
of a solution that includes the establishment of a
Palestinian state," Erekat added.
The Palestinian official called the latest construction move
a "provocation against the international community" a slap
in the face of the US, who has been displaying an
unprecedented criticism of its closest Mideast ally to
revive the Palestinian-Israeli peace process.
MRS/AKM
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Churches call for 'resistance' against Israel
Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:14:00 GMT
The logo of the World Council of Churches (WCC)
http://www.presstv.ir/photo/20091120/gholizadeh20091120043924203.JPG
The World Council of Churches (WCC) has called for
"resistance" against Israel's decision to expand its
settlements in east Jerusalem Al-Quds.
WCC declared that the expansion of the Israeli settlements
"may destroy any chance for peace", AFP reported.
Secretary General Reverend Samuel Kobia called on
organizations related to the Council "to act with resolve,
in concert ... to reverse this decision of the Israeli
government and the settlement program it represents."
Israel on Wednesday announced that it will build 900 new
homes in east Jerusalem Al-Quds, which it occupied in 1967.
Expressing "great disappointment", Kobia said the leading
council of Christian and Orthodox churches "strongly
condemns the decision ... to expand the illegal Gilo
settlement as we believe that this decision will hinder
attempts now in process to restart the peace negotiations."
"If settlements continue to expand and proliferate, they
will further complicate negotiations and may destroy any
chance for peace" Kobia said in a statement.
The WCC brings together 348 Protestant, Orthodox and
Anglican churches representing about 560 million Christians
in 110 countries.
MGH/SS/MMA
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Palestinian structures destroyed in Jerusalem Al-Quds
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:09:27 GMT
Jewish settlers salvage pieces from a structure that was
destroyed by Israeli forces at the illegal outpost of
Neguhot Darom near the illegal settlement of Neguhot in the
occupied West Bank on Nov. 16.
http://www.presstv.ir/photo/20091120/tarapour20091120013526718.jpg
Despite criticisms over Israeli expansion of illegal
settlements and destruction of Palestinian homes, Israelis
have again torn down Palestinian properties in east
Jerusalem Al-Quds.
One day after Israeli authorities announced a plan to expand
a settlement near Jerusalem Al-Quds, Israeli authorities on
Wednesday destroyed a few structures and a horse stable
belonging to Palestinians in east Jerusalem Al-Quds,
claiming they were built without a permit.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has always
rejected demands by Europe and the United States to freeze
settlement construction and has emphatically said that
construction will continue in Jerusalem Al-Quds.
Meanwhile, during a news conference in Jerusalem Al-Quds on
Thursday, French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner, who is
on an official visit to the region, said that Israel must
stop building (illegal) settlements "wherever they may be."
Some 177,000 Jews live in east Jerusalem Al-Quds, in areas
captured by Israel in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war and later
annexed as part of the city.
FTP/SS/MMA
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Austria: Israel undermining any peace process
Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:11:18 GMT
Austrian Foreign Minister Michael Spindelegger
http://www.presstv.ir/photo/20091120/gholizadeh20091120051655203.JPG
Austria has condemned Israel's decision to expand its
settlements in occupied Palestinian lands, saying such a
decision is a deliberate move to block peace efforts.
"Israel's ongoing settlement policy is increasingly becoming
a targeted effort to undermine any peace process," AFP
quoted Foreign Minister Michael Spindelegger as saying in a
statement on Thursday.
"The growing Israeli settlements on the West Bank and in
East Jerusalem, and the blockade, are destroying any trust
in a political process and thereby hindering economic and
social developments in the Palestinian territories," he
added.
Israel on Wednesday declared that it plans to build 900 new
homes in east Jerusalem Al-Quds.
"Israel must put an end to this one-sided policy on
Palestinian territory," Spindelegger stated.
"We are currently lacking the readiness and the courage for
an honest negotiating process," he concluded.
MGH/SS/MMA
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=111731§ionid=351020202
Brazil steps up role in ME peace
Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:05:49 GMT
Acting PA chief Mahmoud Abbas (C) shakes hands with da Silva
(R) at the Ondina Palace, in Salvador, Bahia State, on Nov. 19.
http://www.presstv.ir/photo/20091120/tarapour20091120044940937.jpg
Brazil, which has stepped up its peacemaking role in the
Middle East, is hosting Palestinian Authority's Acting chief
Mahmoud Abbas.
President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva on Thursday welcomed
Mahmoud Abbas, who is on a two-day visit to Brazil, in the
historic city of Salvador.
Brazilian Foreign Minister Celso Amorim anticipated that
Lula might try to convince Abbas to stay at the helm of the
PNA (Palestinian National Authority), despite his
announcement that he will not compete in the upcoming
January presidential election.
Brazil last week hosted Israel's President Shimon Peres, who
was on a four-day visit to the country, as hundreds of
demonstrators labeling him "Shimon Hitler", voiced strong
disapproval of his visit to Sao Paulo.
Mahmoud Abbas launched a South American tour on Thursday
beginning with Brazil, that will also to take him to
Argentina and Chile. He also paid a short visit to Morocco
on his way to Brazil.
FTP/SS/MMA
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=111729§ionid=351020706
Hamas vows to win Palestinian rights by resistance
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:38:46 GMT
The 53-year-old Hamas political leader Khaled Meshaal
http://www.presstv.ir/photo/20091119/pirhayati20091119172505328.jpg
Hamas political chief Khaled Meshaal vows of planning a new
political initiative that would discard vain negotiations
and instead adopt resistance to redress Palestinian rights.
"Not much hope could be upheld for a future Palestinian
state as long as the Zionist occupation persists; Israel
pushes ahead with plans to build more homes for Jewish
settlers in East Jerusalem Al-Quds as well as the West Bank;
and Palestinians are shorn of the right to free decision-
making," Meshaal told al-Jazeera TV network on Wednesday.
The Hamas also noted that it was no surprise to hear that
the so-called Peace process with Israel has completely
failed due to the 'Zionist obstinate refusal' to withhold
commitments, the unswerving US support for Israel, and the
bitter rifts among Palestinian factions and Arab weaknesses
.
"The only way out of the current ordeal is the unanimous
Palestinian factions' adoption of the resistance option,"
Meshaal said, describing the declaration of a Palestinian
state as deceptive since there could be no independent state
until the occupied lands are entirely liberated.
Speaking at a televised speech in the West Bank City of
Ramallah on November 5, the 74-year-old acting Palestinian
Authority Chief Mahmoud Abbas blamed Israel for the collapse
of the political process, saying that the Palestinian
Authority has carried out all its commitments and
obligations while Israel continues to steal Palestinian land
and build Jewish settlements.
This is while Israel gave approval on Tuesday for the
construction of hundreds of new housing units in illegally
annexed East Jerusalem Al-Quds, drawing international
criticism as it drove another stake into troubled Middle
East 'peace' efforts.
Calling the plan for construction of 900 new units in Gilo
settlement as 'illegal', UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon
appealed to Israel to respect its commitments to cease all
settlement activity under the Road Map.
Under the 2002 Roadmap for a 'Peace plan' brokered by the
united States, the European Union, the united Nations, and
Russia, Israel has to 'dismantle settlement outposts erected
since 2001 and also freeze all settlement activities.'
It is estimated that there are almost 200,000 illegal Jewish
settlers in the twelve or so Israeli settlements in
Jerusalem Al-Quds. There are also about 300,000 more illegal
Jewish settlers living in settlements across the occupied
Palestinian territory of West Bank.
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Iran deplores Israel settlement expansion
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:39:16 GMT
A general view of a new construction site is seen in the
Jewish West Bank settlement of Gilo, on the outskirts of
Jerusalem Al-Quds.
http://www.presstv.ir/photo/20091119/rabbani20091119103945859.jpg
Iran has deplored Israel's plan to construct hundreds of new
housing units in Gilo settlement in East Jerusalem Al-Quds.
Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehman-Parast said
the Israeli decision to build more houses in East Jerusalem
Al-Quds was a "modern form of occupation" which signaled
Israel's reckless disregard for international calls
demanding a halt to settlement activities.
Israel has been "so bold as to invade the lands of Al-Quds
continuously", he added, urging the international community,
in particular the Organization of the Islamic Conference
(OIC), to take action on the issue.
Mehman-Parast added that such a move was "unforgivable" in
the eyes of Muslims and was viewed as an attempt to
'Judaize' Jerusalem Al-Quds.
Israel has officially approved the construction of hundreds
of new homes in the Gilo neighborhood, a settlement of
40,000 Jewish settlers, built in a part of the West Bank
that Israel captured in 1967 and illegally annexed to
Jerusalem Al-Quds.
Israel has come under fire over the move which has further
stalled the Middle East peace process.
US President Barack Obama on Wednesday expressed dismay over
Israel's settlement expansion activities.
"I think that additional settlement building does not
contribute to Israel's security. I think it makes it harder
for them to make peace with their neighbors," Obama said in
an interview in China.
"I think it embitters the Palestinians in a way that could
end up being very dangerous," he noted.
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon also "deplored" the
construction as an "illegal" action that would stunt peace
efforts and cast doubt on the possibility of a two-state
solution.
Under the 2002 Roadmap for a 'Peace plan' brokered by the
United States, the European Union, the United Nations, and
Russia, Israel has to "dismantle settlement outposts erected
since 2001 and also freeze all settlement activities".
AR/MTM/AKM
Related Stories:
Obama: More settlements won't make Israel secure
Israel new settlement plans under fire
Israel approves new East Jerusalem homes
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Israeli warplanes target Rafah tunnels
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:51:34 GMT
Israel regularly attacks Rafah's cross-border tunnels which
connect Gaza to Egypt.
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Israeli warplanes have pounded a building near the town of
Khan Yunis in the Gaza Strip and destroyed two tunnels in
the city of Rafah along the Egyptian border.
An Israeli army spokeswoman on Thursday confirmed the
overnight attack, claiming the targets were facilities used
to procure weapons for the Palestinian resistance groups in
the blockaded territory.
Palestinian sources said three people were hurt in the
airstrike, while eyewitnesses reported Israeli F-16 fighters
targeted a military training compound belonging to Ezzeddin
Qassam brigades.
Tel Aviv said the airstrike was in response to a Wednesday
rocket attack by Hamas which hit the Shaar Hanegev Regional
Council, in the western Negev.
On Friday, Israeli soldiers shot a Palestinian youth to
death, critically wounded another near the Karni crossing in
the Gaza Strip and kidnapped three others.
Israeli army officials said the Palestinians were suspected
of placing explosives near an Israeli separation fence, but
could not confirm if the youth were armed or carrying
explosives.
Hamas police rejected the allegations and described those
shot on Friday as youth who had gone to the area for
hunting.
Following the border incident, Palestinian fighters in Gaza
fired a Qassam rocket into southern Israel, which did not
cause any injuries or damage to properties.
Israel regularly attacks the southern Gaza Strip, mostly
targeting Rafah's cross-border tunnels that connect the
closed coastal sliver to the neighboring Egypt.
Palestinians say the tunnels are the only resort to provide
food and other basic needs for the starving population in
the impoverished territory.
The Hamas-run Gaza Strip has been under a crippling Israeli
siege and severe movement restrictions since June 2007, with
food aid handouts maintaining half of its 1.5 million-strong
population.
MRS/AKM
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And that is just TODAY'S NEWS!
>> What are you going to do? Sue God For "Specific Performance"?
>
> God is a fictional character. I might as well sue Bugs Bunny.
Thou hast said.
>> And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly
>> destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of
>> every city, we left none to remain: Deuteronomy ch2 v34
>
> Bible babble....yawn.
DISINTEREST EXPRESSED BY RAPT ATTENTIVENESS! I'm not buying: it!
My Name
>>>>>> Torah is but the books of the Torah are in the Old Testament.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's Your Judgment. I just quote it.
>>>>> I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did.
>>>>>
>>>> Am I wrong? If so how?
>>>
>>> Are YOU? What do YOU believe?
>>>
>> Can you just explain to me why the Torah is so evil?
>
HEY! IDIOT! You might want to take a look at this post here:
Message-ID: <Xns9CC8B8D3F...@walks.like.a.duck>
Oh the heck with it, I'll just repost it here for YOU as well:
YOUR WELCOME: punk-kin
>>>>>>>>> My point was people like My Name go on about how evil the
>>>>>>>>> Torah is but the books of the Torah are in the Old Testament.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's Your Judgment. I just quote it.
>>>>>>>> I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am I wrong? If so how?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are YOU? What do YOU believe?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Can you just explain to me why the Torah is so evil?
>>>>
> Actually, he didn't.
Yes! He did!
> You see,
Mute is he?
"I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did."
Matter of FACT: It is right in the beginning of this very post
as quoted! What are YOU? Blind Pharissee or don't YOU know
what it MEANS when I say that: I DON"T PASS JUDGMENT ON IT!
And! What's it to YOU, anyway, punk-kin?
BDK
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> >> > BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> related news:MPG.256ec6d25...@news.buckeye-express.com:
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> >> >> > In article <Xns9CC77F8B5...@walks.like.a.duck>, n...@e-mail.com.invalid says...
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> he paints all jews as evil
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > LIAR!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Jews! No Better Nor Worse Than All Others!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> why do nearly all your posts negatively portray jews?
> >> >>
> >> >> If the news is negative: REPENT
> >> >> Make PEACE! Not WAR!
> >> >
> >> > And you're not a christian?
> >>
> >> YOU can't leave what I say alone, can you?
> >
> > It's hard when you're as insane as you've been lately.
>
> UNSUBSTANTIATED
Actually, my ex-girlfriend, a psychiatrist who lurks here says so. She's
interested in kooks of all kinds. She's wondering if you've ever been in
treatment, or not? I bet no, she bets yes.
Be honest now.
>
> >> YOU have to twist it! I'll repeat it for YOU!
> >> I said: I do not claim to be: Christian.
> >
> > You don't claim to be a christian, but everyone reading your rants would
> > consider you one.
>
> SO?
So? For all intents and purposes, you are a christian.
>
> >> Can 't YOU leave it at that? Ok, let's do it all again.
> >> Christian, means: Christ-Like. Christ, means: Messiah.
> >> Ergo, Christian not only means: Christ-Like,
> >> It also means: Messiah-Like!
> >> All these positions/titles/monikers are too lofty for little
> >> ol' me to crown myself with, thank you very much, anyway.
> >
> > How about crowning you the Godder King?
>
> What meaneth this?
King of a certain type of kooktard.
>
> >> > BTW, tell the Palestinians too.
> >>
> >> You tell them! I'll tell the source of the problem of lack
> >> of PEACE in Israel, the: jews! Who use Palestinian People as
> >> human shields, bury them alive, one shot, two kills, pregnant
> >> women, white phospherous, dense inert metal explosives,
> >> fleschettes, used against civilians, bulldozing homes and
> >> people, kidnappings, starvations, water restrictions, burning
> >> of olive groves, ponzi schemes, usury, land grabs, and so on
> >> and so forth.
> >
> > BWHAHAHAHAHAHA! Over the top should be your middle name.
>
> What meaneth this?
You don't know what "Over the top" means?
1. (idiomatic) Bold; beyond normal, expected, or reasonable limits;
excessive; outrageous.
He has always had an independent style, but don't you think purple
spiky hair is a bit over the top?
>
> >> Interesting to note that no amount jew atrocities bothers YOU
> >> jew psychopaths! It's always: "Blame The Victim" you jew
> >> lawyers invented that gambit too!
> >
> > Um, I'm neither a jew, or a lawyer.
>
> Thou hast said.
And it's always been true.
>
> >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, you and you're ilk are not jews. Right! punk-kins.
> >
> > That's right, I'm just not an insane, jew hating loon, like yourself..
>
> Thou hast said.
And it's still true.
>
> >> Remember: Plausible Deniability, punk-kin! Plausible Deniability! And, y'all ain't
> >> got none! How about accepting responsibility for your actions?
> >
> > For my actions? All I've done is point out your jew hatin kooktardery.
> > What jews do has nothing to do with me.
>
> Thou hast said.
You're needle is stuck again.
>
> >> How about some sympathy, empathy for the PLIGHT of the POOR
> >> Palestinian People? None Forth-Coming, Huh?
> >
> > I feel sorry for the innocents on both sides who get stuck in the
> > middle, like the kids and stuff,
>
> Thou hast said and the first I've heard of it.
> Are you able to see clearly through your tears?
I see just fine, unlike you, blinded by the bible babble and the hate
you spout.
Proof of my claim? I'm not claiming the jews are any more correct than
any other religion. You all think you're "special" and most people don't
really take it all that seriously, even if they are believers. If you
want to get technical, I'm a former christian, I suppose, but I really
never thought it was true, any of it. Even as a 4 or 5 year old, I had
serious doubts about the bible and Jesus being true.
God is fictional, as is probably Jesus, who may gave existed, but was
probably a nobody who's story was amplified into the whopper it later
became. The bible is a book of old fables, myths, and legends, nothing
more. Same goes for the torah, koran, etc. It's all made up nonsense.
>
> >> Still: The Non-jews would have to buy into your 6,000 year old
> >> campaign to subdue the whole earth under the jew, wouldn't one?
> >
> > First, the jews and non jews would have to buy into the insane idea that
> > the jew have a plot to subdue the Earth in the first place. Most people
> > aren't that batshit crazy.
>
> Thou hast said.
And most people still aren't batshit crazy like you.
>
> >> Which, of course, means that every one who thinks that the old
> >> is passed away and no longer in effect is WRONG! And that,
> >> they would have to acquiesce, to bow to YOU, the collective:
> >> jew.
> >
> > Except I'm not a jew, loon.
>
> Thou hast said.
Mom being French and Irish would tend to make it that way.
>
> >> I TROW: NOT! Jews! No better, nor worse than anyone else!
> >
> > You trow? Underhand or overhand?
>
> Learn the language.
Sorry, I couldn't find anything that really fit into that sentence and
that made any kind of sense. But maybe it's just a kooktardic reflex to
use that word.
>
> >> They became indistinguishable from the inhabitants of the land
> >> which they were covenanted to "utterly destroy"!
> >
> > Nobody, except a few religious fanatics and bigots, wants to destroy
> > anyone.
>
> Thou hast said.
>
> >> YOU broke the old covenant right away, but you still think
> >> that you have an agreement after having violated the terms of
> >> the agreement: the utter destruction of the inhabitants of the
> >> land. And so, you: the jew, continue to seek to utterly destroy
> >> the inhabitants of the land. That makes you, the: jew the
> >> problem and that is why the solution is directed at you, the:
> >> jew! Makes sense to me.
> >
> > Of course it does, you're the one imagining it.
>
> Maybe you'd better check the news instead of laughing like an
> idiot and dismissing it. Here's some now:
Since you're imagining I'm a jew (That's what I was really referring
to), it makes no sense. The Israelis should stop building settlements if
for nothing else just to give the Pals one less excuse to attack. I
seriously doubt it would change anything though. They're too into the
hate to stop it now. They would rather hate jews than make a real life
for their kids.
BWHAHAHAHA! I'm not selling, just laughing.
Man, there's a whole lotta kooktardery there.
Government Shill #2
>Actually, my ex-girlfriend, a psychiatrist who lurks here says so. She's
>interested in kooks of all kinds. She's wondering if you've ever been in
>treatment, or not? I bet no, she bets yes.
Can I get a signed copy of the book when it comes out?
--
Shill #2
Pay Section
Disinformation Directorate
Ministry of Information
European Division
BDK
gov....@gmail.com says...
Sure! Don't hold your breath though, she's kind of doing it as a long
term study of usenet kooks, mostly the 911 type, and so it will be years
before it's completed as an article, let alone a book length thing.
Whackjobs like Myname are just too interesting to pass up.
Patrick Keenan
>
>
> "Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't Christians believe in the Torah?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're going to be on old Myname's shit list. Prepare to be gawd
>>>> bothered.
>>>>
>>> It's just I don't get it. The Christians used the Torah as the OT
>>
>> Not quite correct. The Torah does not map directly to the OT; the Torah
>> contains the first five books of Moses. The OT, depending on who is
>> publishing a particular edition and translation, has between 39 and 47
>> books. The OT always contains the books from the Torah - though the
>> translations significantly alter the meaning of the original texts - and
>> the order may vary.
>>
> So the Torah just contains the first 5 books of Moses?
It's also called the Pentateuch, though the term 'Torah' is sometimes used
to include all of the sacred texts.
> True but that is the same with the Bible. I'm sure the many translations
> have lost it's original meaning.
That may not be the case for Jewish scriptures, which are produced by hand
closely referring to older copies with extreme care taken to avoid any
change whatsoever.
But it most certainly is the case for Christian scriptures, where the
originals were usually in Aramaic or Greek and were translated into *or
through* other languages, for example into Latin and then to various forms
of English or German.
Even now, we have new "interpretations" of translations - for example the
"Conservative Bible Project", which intends to bring Christian scriptures
into line with American Conservative values. That's actually fairly
amusing. One of the guidelines for its production is a "Framework against
Liberal Bias", and it will be interesting to see how they deal with Christ's
advice to give everything to the poor and follow Him.
Sometimes, it's clear that people are simply inventing religion.
> It's the same with the Koran.
No, it's not, because the genuine Qu'aran is not ever translated. It's
only ever published in Arabic. This is why Islamic schools teach students
to recite the verses in Arabic, no matter what their first language is.
Similarly, Torah students are taught from materials as original as
possible - hewing to the original is considered extremely important, quite
unlike the view of many Christians.
>
>>> so if the Torah is so evil isn't the OT so evil?
>>
>> I think you'll find that Christ and His disciples referenced those books
>> directly.
>>
>>
>>
> And not just the Torah because the Torah wasn't written until after the
> gospels were written right?
No, that's the Talmud, which is a book of exegisis based on the Pentateuch.
The oldest of the books of the Pentateuch date to perhaps 800 BCE.
Patrick Keenan
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>>>>>>> My point was people like My Name go on about how evil the
>>>>>>> Torah is but the books of the Torah are in the Old Testament.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's Your Judgment. I just quote it.
>>>>>> I don't pass judgment on it like you do|just did.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Am I wrong? If so how?
>>>>
>>>> Are YOU? What do YOU believe?
>>>>
>>> Can you just explain to me why the Torah is so evil?
>>
>> No, he or she can't
>
> HEY! IDIOT! You might want to take a look at this post here:
> Message-ID: <Xns9CC8B8D3F...@walks.like.a.duck>
I see from looking at that post that you can not bring yourself to answer
whether or not you believe the Torah is evil, or why.
And I see that you do not comprehend just how poor your understanding of the
language you use actually is.
-pk
Patrick Keenan
Not using the English language, he didn't.
>
>> You see,
>
> Yes! I do See, That He Did!
No, he is trying to figure out just what it is that you are saying, because
you express yourself very, very poorly and don't understand English usage
very well.
> Now Answer My Question.
> "Have you figured out yet, how you, call the torah evil,
> then, claim that you don't? Explain yourself, please"
> Get busy and get my my answer, boy!
The first problem with your question is that it is based on a false premise:
I don't call the Torah evil.
The second problem with your question is that it is asked by someone who
does not understand what he, or she, is asking.
>> following the normal use and sentence
>> structure of the English language, Seon is referring to his understanding
>> that your posts are intended to show that the Torah is evil.
>
> YOU mean: "misrepresentation"! I despise: YOUR LIES!
>
>> He's not making a claim - he's asking about what he thinks is your claim.
>
> Doesn't know how to ask a question after having been given
> specific instructions, eh? No Comment.
>
>> Seon is referring to *his* understanding of *your* words,
>
> YOU "read his mind" REAL GOOD!
No, I read English.
> YOU TALK for him REAL GOOD TOO! Don't: YOU?
Nope. And I have to tell you, that you don't speak or write for yourself
very well.
I would suggest that you try to learn something about the language you're
attempting to use, but you won't.
Find those who educated you, and demand a refund.
>
>> and frankly, it does appear that his understanding is justified.
>
> FY!
Thanks, but your sentiments don't alter reality.
> NO! IT: DOESN'T!
Yep.
> This is WAY OLD ground that has been covered so many times
> that, it has a well worn path in it!
Which I take to mean that you've chucked huge amounts of convoluted and
contradictory text online.
Meanwhile, you're being asked a simple question with a one word, two or
three letter answer.
Do you regard the Torah as evil? No, or Yes?
>
>> There is little to
>> nothing in what you post that seems to inform any sort of balanced view.
>
> Whaa! I know you jews
Sorry, not Jewish. Your delusion.
> ain't used to anyone hearing/seeing/telling
> any opposing point of view but, that is what it is called.
Oh, I see alll kinds of that. But unlike your postings, it's generally
coherent.
> The other side of the story. Going from narrative to discourse.
> The opposing POV, presented for fairness and balance. Let there be:
> The opposing point of view POV so that, there may be a dialog.
And is that why much of what you post comes from the official organ of a
government that allows no dissent?
>
> Maybe somebody even gets shamed into having to make PEACE with
> their NEIGHBORS and LIVE HARMONIOUSLY or be EXPELLED from The
> Land. That's right! May the land cleanse itself, from all
> UNPEACEFUL inhabitants, EXPUNGE the OFFENDERS! Live in PEACE!
> Or: ELSE! In other words IOW. Let there be consequences taken
> against anyone who violates the PEACE. Anyone: SPECIFICALLY.
> Not: anyone generally! Declare: PEACE! And: ENSUE: IT!
>
> Violaters expelled from the land. A nice land purge.
> Sounds about right to me. Biblical Even! Who knows,
> the way things are going, at this rate, the land may just
> cleanse itself from all unrighteousness.
>
> It would be such a God-Like thing to do.
> A Sodom and Gomorrah kind of thing to do when, the land/earth is
> filled with violence and abominations.
Is that a yes, or no?
>
>> So, he has two quite simple questions.
>
> Mute is he?
No, he asked them, and you charged off on a quite unrelated rant, as you are
wont to do.
Why do you have such a hard time saying yes or no?
>
>> The first is whether or not you do
>> actually believe that the Torah is evil. The second is why.
>
> ASKED, AND: ANSWERED! I ALREADY ANSWERED THAT QUESTION. MANY TIMES!
And your two or three letter answer to the first question is....?
Yes, or no?
> YOU PEOPLE actually read any of this stuff or just blow it off
Significant portions of what you post is, after all, incoherent.
> in your smug high-mindedness, thinking that, you already KNOW IT ALL?
>
>> You seem to have a very hard time answering the first one clearly, though
>> it
>> takes only a yes or no.
>
> MAYBE: YOU JUST DON'T LIKE/ACCEPT MY ANSWER, HMM?
I don't know what your answer is, because your expression of it is
incoherent. That's why I'm asking you for an answer in one word.
Do you believe the Torah is evil? Yes, or no?
Seon Ferguson
"Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null> wrote in message
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Yeah and turning Jesus into what they want. For the liberals he was a
liberal preacher, to the conservatives he is too liberal which yeah is
amusing. I sometimes wonder why God always seems to share the values of the
believer. If the believer is conservative then God is a conservative, if the
believer is liberal God is a liberal and embraces all faiths.
>> It's the same with the Koran.
>
> No, it's not, because the genuine Qu'aran is not ever translated. It's
> only ever published in Arabic. This is why Islamic schools teach
> students to recite the verses in Arabic, no matter what their first
> language is. Similarly, Torah students are taught from materials as
> original as possible - hewing to the original is considered extremely
> important, quite unlike the view of many Christians.
>
>>
That's what I mean. If the Qu'aran is translated it looses it's original
meaning.
>>>> so if the Torah is so evil isn't the OT so evil?
>>>
>>> I think you'll find that Christ and His disciples referenced those books
>>> directly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> And not just the Torah because the Torah wasn't written until after the
>> gospels were written right?
>
> No, that's the Talmud, which is a book of exegisis based on the
> Pentateuch. The oldest of the books of the Pentateuch date to perhaps 800
> BCE.
>
>
Oh but I am talking about the actual book we know of as the Torah today.
Patrick Keenan
So am I. Torahs are very carefully made from very carefully made copies of
the oldest versions of books dating to 800 BCE or so, that can be found.
The exactness of the text is regarded as critical.
Seon Ferguson
"Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null> wrote in message
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Then the Christians who said the OT came first must have been lying to me. I
always assumed the Torah came first or at least the book of Moses and other
Jewish scriptures.