How I Know The Bible Is God's Word
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John 7:16-18 NIV
(16) Jesus answered, "My teaching is not my own. It comes from
him who sent me.
(17) If anyone chooses to do God's will, he will find out
whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own.
(18) He who speaks on his own does so to gain honor for himself,
but he who works for the honor of the one who sent him is a man
of truth; there is nothing false about him.
1) Obedience: "If anyone chooses to do God's will, he will find
out whether my teaching comes from God...". Jesus said the will
and work of God was for men to believe on Jesus Christ as Savior
(John 6:29). One must believe in Christ, to discern what comes
from God (John 6:29; cf. 1 Cor. 2). The natural man finds the
word of God foolish. The obedient believer in Christ knows the
teaching comes from God.
2) Glorify of God, not man: "He who speaks on his own does so to
gain honor for himself, but he who works for the honor of the one
who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him."
Christianity is the *only* group which has a body of doctrine
that presents man as a completely meritless sinner, dependent
entirely on the sovereign grace and mercy of God through Jesus
Christ. Every false *religion* has man either not being a
sinner, or somehow helping to atone for his own sins, or in some
way helping God achieve salvation through his own merits or
worthiness.
The Bible, through a series of tests from the garden of Eden, to
the millennial reign of Christ on earth, shows that man, in
whatever circumstances and under whatever economy God places him,
to be unable to reflect God's glory in his own strength, and to
therefore be an entirely meritless sinner, in need of God's
gracious and merciful redemption through Christ's atonement.
Thus, as it says, let him who boasts, boast in the Lord, and no
flesh will glory in God's presence.
Multitudes have believed in Christ, and therefore know the Bible
to be God-inspired teaching which glorifies God, not man.
Believers in Christ don't need the approval of some group of
"scholars" to tell them what is or is not God's word. "Any man"
can know whether the doctrine comes from God, by believing in
Christ as Savior, and seeing how it glorifies God rather than man.
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Have you heard Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him
from the dead? Did you know God saves you from hell and
gives you eternal life through faith in this finished work alone,
not your merits (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess.
1:8-9)? This is so man cannot boast, and God alone gets the
glory (Eph. 2:8-9).
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being a hypocrite.
Michael Christ
"�" <pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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gabriel
wrote:
> God gave every man a test by which to discern what God has inspired:
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> John 7:16-18 NIV
> (16) Jesus answered, "My teaching is not my own. It comes from
> him who sent me.
> (17) If anyone chooses to do God's will, he will find out
> whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own.
> (18) He who speaks on his own does so to gain honor for himself,
> but he who works for the honor of the one who sent him is a man
> of truth; there is nothing false about him.
>
> 1) Obedience: "If anyone chooses to do God's will, he will find
> out whether my teaching comes from God...". Jesus said the will
> and work of God was for men to believe on Jesus Christ as Savior
> (John 6:29). One must believe in Christ, to discern what comes
> from God (John 6:29; cf. 1 Cor. 2). The natural man finds the
> word of God foolish. The obedient believer in Christ knows the
> teaching comes from God.
This makes perfect sense!
1 Corinthians 2:12-14 KJV
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but
the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that
are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's
wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing
spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the
Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he
know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
It's the Holy Spirit that leads us to all truth once we are
saved!
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> 2) Glorify of God, not man: "He who speaks on his own does so to
> gain honor for himself, but he who works for the honor of the one
> who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him."
> Christianity is the *only* group which has a body of doctrine
> that presents man as a completely meritless sinner, dependent
> entirely on the sovereign grace and mercy of God through Jesus
> Christ. Every false *religion* has man either not being a
> sinner, or somehow helping to atone for his own sins, or in some
> way helping God achieve salvation through his own merits or
> worthiness.
>
> The Bible, through a series of tests from the garden of Eden, to
> the millennial reign of Christ on earth, shows that man, in
> whatever circumstances and under whatever economy God places him,
> to be unable to reflect God's glory in his own strength, and to
> therefore be an entirely meritless sinner, in need of God's
> gracious and merciful redemption through Christ's atonement.
> Thus, as it says, let him who boasts, boast in the Lord, and no
> flesh will glory in God's presence.
>
> Multitudes have believed in Christ, and therefore know the Bible
> to be God-inspired teaching which glorifies God, not man.
> Believers in Christ don't need the approval of some group of
> "scholars" to tell them what is or is not God's word. "Any man"
> can know whether the doctrine comes from God, by believing in
> Christ as Savior, and seeing how it glorifies God rather than man.
Amen!
And leading into the verses you quoted above:
John 7:15 KJV
15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man
letters, having never learned?
It's by the power of the Holy Spirit that the most "unlearned" of
men may know all things God would have us know.
All praise, honor and glory to God the heavenly Father of our
Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ!
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gabriel <gabriel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> And leading into the verses you quoted above:
> John 7:15 KJV
> 15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man
> letters, having never learned?
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> It's by the power of the Holy Spirit that the most "unlearned" of
> men may know all things God would have us know.
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> All praise, honor and glory to God the heavenly Father of our
> Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ!
Correct!
Michael Christ
> 1 Corinthians 2:12-14 KJV
> 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but
> the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that
> are freely given to us of God.
> 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's
> wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing
> spiritual things with spiritual.
> 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the
> Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he
> know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
>
> It's the Holy Spirit that leads us to all truth once we are
> saved!
That statement is Gabriel humanistic habitual self-justifying 'occasional'
sin paraphrase.
Otherwise show me the money in your bible...in particular, '...once we are
saved!'
Prior to that what do you do, save yourself without the Holy Spirit??
Delusion, and what you are caught up to your eyeballs in. And if you were
who you like to say you are Randy with all your doctrine, you would see the
spirit of error and try to help Gabriel.
You are blind and seek to lead the blind.
Michael Christ
Wild Bill
"Michael Christ" <jesus...@father.com> wrote in message
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There you have it, folks--the pot calling the kettle black!
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Michael Christ
"Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
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Wild Bill the Seer wrote:
> There you have it, folks--the pot calling the kettle black!
Wild Bill has spoken.
From one who can't see God anywhere in all the incredible *creation* around
him.
Michael Christ
Wild Bill
Yes, and with authority!
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> From one who can't see God anywhere in all the incredible *creation*
> around him.
On the contrary, I see God in everything because it is all that is.
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Michael Christ
Wild Bill said:
>> Wild Bill has spoken.
Wild Bill wrote:
> Yes, and with authority!
Michael Christ wrote:
>> From one who can't see God anywhere in all the incredible *creation*
>> around him.
Wild Bill wrote:
> On the contrary, I see God in everything because it is all that is.
What about this then...??
Wild Bill wrote:
>>I sense that you may be starting to wake up, Michael. You might be about
>>where I was in my Christian life nearly 7 years ago. I decided to
>>challenge and question my cherished Christian beliefs and after 5 years of
>>in-depth research, ended up abandoning Christianity altogether.
...does that include Christian newsgroups?? :-).
They say 7 years is a cycle. It may be time to enter the real fold and not
the fake one.
Michael Christ
gabriel
<jesus...@father.com> wrote:
> Gabriel wrote:
> > 1 Corinthians 2:12-14 KJV
> > 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but
> > the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that
> > are freely given to us of God.
> > 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's
> > wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing
> > spiritual things with spiritual.
> > 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the
> > Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he
> > know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
> >
> > It's the Holy Spirit that leads us to all truth once we are
> > saved!
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> That statement is Gabriel humanistic habitual self-justifying 'occasional'
> sin paraphrase.
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> Otherwise show me the money in your bible...in particular, '...once we are
> saved!'
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> Prior to that what do you do, save yourself without the Holy Spirit??
We cannot save ourselves. God does it all. He gives you faith and
leads you to repentance and salvation.
Hebrews 12:2 KJV
2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;
who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,
despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the
throne of God.
Romans 2:4 KJV
4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and
forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of
God leadeth thee to repentance?
It's only after we believe that the Holy Ghost is given to us.
Acts 19:1-6 KJV
1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth,
Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and
finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost **since
ye believed?** And they said unto him, We have not so much as
heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Clearly pointing out here that you receive the Holy Spirit only
after believing.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized?
And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of
repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on
him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of
the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost
came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
You are then sealed with the Holy Spirit.
Ephesians 1:13 KJV
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of
truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye
believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Ephesians 4:30 KJV
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are
sealed unto the day of redemption.
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> Delusion, and what you are caught up to your eyeballs in. And if you were
> who you like to say you are Randy with all your doctrine, you would see the
> spirit of error and try to help Gabriel.
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> You are blind and seek to lead the blind.
Matthew 7:1-5 KJV
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and
with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's
eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the
mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own
eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of
thy brother's eye.
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Michael Christ
>It's the Holy Spirit that leads us to all truth once we are saved!
So now can you see that Holy Spirit leads you to all truth, including
salvation?
So now you can see the misguided nature of what you have said above?
The propensity to allow the heretic theology of 'occasional' sin the liberty
to enjoy its presence in your life is fueled by the desire to avoid coming
into the presence of God, and what you subsequently do is try to **justify
yourself** by trying to curtail your 'occasional' sin. You can't curtail
anything!!!
You can rave about the theology of the Holy Spirit all you like, and quote
all the scriptures you like, but until you surrender your life to the
SAVIOUR all the theology is a complete waste of time.
Michael Christ
Wild Bill
The God I recognize isn't the biblical one, Michael! But of course you knew
that, didn't you?
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Michael Christ
No, I didn't. So who or what is it, or are you too uncomfortable to declare
your god's name.
Michael Christ
Wild Bill
Humans somehow feel a need to ascribe to all their invented gods a name,
including the Christian one. But, God really doesn't have a name because it
is completely incomprehensible to man. Baruch Spinoza's God is Nature.
That's as close as I can come to giving God a name...and of course we all
know that Nature definetly exists!
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Michael Christ
Wild Bill wrote:
> Humans somehow feel a need to ascribe to all their invented gods a name,
> including the Christian one. But, God really doesn't have a name because
> it is completely incomprehensible to man. Baruch Spinoza's God is Nature.
> That's as close as I can come to giving God a name...and of course we all
> know that Nature definetly exists!
May I refer to your god then as Wild Bill's Mr or Miss Nobody?
You blokes are all the same, all the huff and puff as if to say you have
something, but at the bottom of the barrel, there is nothing.
Michael Christ
Wild Bill
When I say that the Christian religion is 80% myth and legend and 20% fact,
it's not huff and puffl. It is Biblical scholar truth!
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> Michael Christ
gabriel
<jesus...@father.com> wrote:
> Gabriel wrote:
> >It's the Holy Spirit that leads us to all truth once we are saved!
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> So now can you see that Holy Spirit leads you to all truth, including
> salvation?
You didn't seem to understand or even read what I posted. Please
go back and read it again.
Michael Christ
So what are you going to do with the 20%?
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
You are wasting your time and mine.
You have been given plenty of time Gabriel.
Have it your way, go and live your life of habitual 'occasional' sin.
Michael Christ
"gabriel" <gabriel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Wild Bill
Nothing.
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> Michael Christ
::: Jesus is LORD :::
Michael Christ
" ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <jesus-...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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Vera wrote:
> Correct!
So you subscribe to this then Vera...
Gabriel wrote:
>It's the Holy Spirit that leads us to all truth once we are saved!
One can only deduce that the Holy Spirit was on holidays prior to salvation
then.
:-).
Which also begs the question, if Gabriel is saved (only hypothetical), when
does Gabriel arrive at this 'all truth' while 'occasionally' sinning?
Michael Christ
Michael Christ