# WILL THERE BE THE END OF THE WORLD IN 2011 ? #
OB...@aol.com
worship the true God of the Bible the best acceptable-to-God way.
You may know right now the prediction for 2011 AD - the best ever -
is in place and is widely proclaimed .
Harold Camping of the Family Radio Stations was able to surpass
Jehovah's Witnesses by setting forth a very interesting date ( he
claims it is not a prediction ) of the end of the world.
His proofs based on numbers and calculations are really superb as he
used the Bible in the process.
October ,21st,2011 AD is the date for the end of the world and that's
it .The whole universe is to be destroyed.
As you might know I also set forth the year 2011 AD as the year of the
end of the world but we both have a different diametrically
explanations for the end of the world .
To my best knowledge of the Bible the universe we live now is going
to continue beyond 2011 AD. The evil world order that is now is going
to pass away.
Camping missed the point in 2 Peter 3 .
The old world existing before the Flood was destroyed by water.And
after the Flood the new heavens and new earth spiritually came into
existence .
The waters of the Flood did not destroye the sun ,moon ,stars or even
the earth if we consider the earth remained the same despite of the
flooding.
Note Harold Camping is absolutely sure the physical universe will be
destroyed .100% sure !
And I believe he got it wrong.
According to the Bible the righteous shall inherit the earth - Matthew
5.5 so his certainty about the rapture on May,21st,2011 AD is dubious.
There is no date 2011 AD given in the Bible so the date is a result of
the understanding of the Bible.Harold Camping equals his statements on
the end of the world to as if they were the Bible .
I recorded many parts of his Open Forum on audiocassettes.
Not long ago Camping was absolutely sure there is hell of eternal
torments.
He blamed churches they stopped teaching the hell .Now he has a
different opposite opinion : there is no hot hell and churches ( most
of them ) teach hot hell !
It
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ever expectation for the coming of God's Kingdom to the earth
coinciding with the removal of the wicked from the face of it what we
should do before that time comes?
We should ask God Yahweh for mercy and love and forgive us our
ignorance of what the Bible was teaching us for decades.
We should thank God for allowing us to know the time when Jesus
Christ can be expected to come.
This is not something like Jesus may come any day any hour now or we
don't know when he is coming believing that if he did not come till
now for so long time he may come in the far future when we will be
already dead.
The fact we don't know when we may die and we may die tomorrow already
is sufficient for us to live a holy life each and every passing day .
But since we talk about the year 2011 and specific dates it is a
different situation and it concerns the whole fate of all mankind at
the same specific time.
If we believe Jesus may come any day we normally live our lives as
they would continue the same way and let God intervene in our lives
when He thinks it is right and we just try to live a holy life and all
other things will be taken care by God if the end comes.
Camping is 100% sure about May,21,2011 AD and that can cause a lot of
havoc ,distress and suffering as many people not sure they are saved
may resort to many drastic steps like commiting suicide before May,21 ,
2011 to avoid a hell on earth that will last 153 days according to
Harold Camping.
One man called on Open Forum suggesting it would be better off if he
could poison his family members before May,21,2011 ; so much he was
convinced about Camping's date May,21,2011.
If you study my posts note how reasonable approach I have towards the
set year 2011 AD for the end of the world. This is a very well
balanced approach .I am working and plan to work and remain to be a
worker in hospice industry till the very end. I see what my plans can
be and if I am able to survive if the prediction doesn't come to pass
in unlikely situation.
What you are going to do is your personal matter but first you must
learn how the prediction for 2011 AD was made.
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God's Kingdom to come.
They learnt from past mistakes and now they know the end of the world
is much more imminent as we have passed so many decades from 1914 AD
and 1975 AD.
The time must be winding up but we must continue to live as we were
doing the last few years and be always ready for the end of the world
it can take place any day now ,any year coming.
They the best christian organization so what they must do now is to
continue the way they did recently and each member must be always
ready for the end of the world while living normal life as they did
till now.If the end comes tomorrow they are ready as they are
watchfull all the times.
OB...@aol.com
Harold Camping :
4990 BC - The Flood of Noah occurred .
4990 BC + 7000 years as 7 days from Genesis 7.1-4 = 2011 AD.
Get his old publication "Adam When " to learn how he counted decades
ago - when he was thinking we could not know the time of the end of
the world -when the Flood of Noah occurred.
Obves got this timeline :
587 BC - Destruction of Jeruslem picturing the end of the world .
587 BC + "7 Times " as 2520 years + 70 years + 7 years = 2011 AD.
7 days from Genesis 7.1-4 are 7 years : 2004 AD - 2011 AD.
2004 AD - 120 years ( time the ark of Noah was built - Genesis 6.3 ) =
1884 AD.
1884 AD - The International Bible Students recognized as legal
organization to count with in this world.
They did restored the true christian religion that became defunct in
150 AD.
Christ's dates for his beginning are :
7 BC was born ; 2 BC came out of Egypt .
Their corresponding dates in our times are :
1879 AD and 1884 AD .The International Bible Students are linked to
them unquestionably.
29 AD + 120 years = 149 AD + one year = 150 AD like in Noah's days.
In our times 7 years for 7 days from Noah's days are included.
1884 AD + 120 years + 7 years + one year = 2012 AD.
That is why I have 2011 AD /2012 AD as one year for the establishment
of God's Kingdom on earth.
duke
>The right answer to this question is crucial for those who want to
>worship the true God of the Bible the best acceptable-to-God way.
Well, there could be, but only the Father knows the time or the day.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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You just stick blindly to one sentence from the Bible without
comapring it with many other verses that speak a different story .You
have to read them too and reconcile them.
It says the heavens and earth shall pass away in Matthew 24.35 but in
Pslams 104.5 and 148 we read the earth and stars are forever.
And here again we must agree both apparent contradictions.
Jesus was speaking in figures of speech in the New Testament - Matthew
13.11,34-35.
So ,Matthew 24.35 must have a spiritual meaning ( hidden meaning ) .
So ,the next verse ( adjacent ) can have a spiritual meaning !
Matthew 24.36 has it !
So ,you must interpret properly "only the Father knows the time ".
You remember Matthew 24.36 but remember also Matthew 48-50 in the same
paragraph which implies a bad servant doesn't know the time .
Parish *~
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On Dec 4, 2:01�pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net>
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You just stick blindly to one sentence from the Bible without
comapring it with many other verses that speak a different story .You
have to read them too and reconcile them.
:: Are you admitting that there are contradictions in the bible that must be
reconciled?
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duke
>On Dec 4, 2:01?pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net>
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>You just stick blindly to one sentence from the Bible without
>comapring it with many other verses that speak a different story .You
>have to read them too and reconcile them.
It was very clear when Jesus said he didn't know the time or day, only the
Father did.
>It says the heavens and earth shall pass away in Matthew 24.35 but in
>Pslams 104.5 and 148 we read the earth and stars are forever.
>And here again we must agree both apparent contradictions.
Scientifically or liturgically forever?
>Jesus was speaking in figures of speech in the New Testament - Matthew
>13.11,34-35.
>So ,Matthew 24.35 must have a spiritual meaning ( hidden meaning ) .
So.............Jesus didn't know what he was saying?
>So ,the next verse ( adjacent ) can have a spiritual meaning !
>Matthew 24.36 has it !
>So ,you must interpret properly "only the Father knows the time ".
That's it. Only the Father knows.
>You remember Matthew 24.36 but remember also Matthew 48-50 in the same
>paragraph which implies a bad servant doesn't know the time .
And since we are all sinners, we don't know either.
Parish *~
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> And since we are all sinners, we don't know either.
>
Sin depend on what religion you are. It's sin to use birth control in the
RRC but not a protestant church or for Jews.........
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> And since we are all sinners, we don't know either.
>Sin depend on what religion you are. It's sin to use birth control in the
>RRC but not a protestant church or for Jews.........
There's only one God, and his rules apply to everybody equally.
Parish *~
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:11:26 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> And since we are all sinners, we don't know either.
>
>>Sin depend on what religion you are. It's sin to use birth control in the
>>RRC but not a protestant church or for Jews.........
>
> There's only one God, and his rules apply to everybody equally.
And he never said not to use birth control, realizing not everyone can
afford 10 or more children. That not every woman's body can survive endless
childbearing, and that the rhythm method (never mentioned in the bible) wont
work for all women.
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:11:26 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> And since we are all sinners, we don't know either.
>>
>>>Sin depend on what religion you are. It's sin to use birth control in the
>>>RRC but not a protestant church or for Jews.........
>> There's only one God, and his rules apply to everybody equally.
>And he never said not to use birth control, realizing not everyone can
>afford 10 or more children.
And he never said not to go to work on rainy Tuesdays.
> That not every woman's body can survive endless
>childbearing, and that the rhythm method (never mentioned in the bible) wont
>work for all women.
Bearing children is the design function of a woman.
Parish *~
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:56:52 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:11:26 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>
>>> There's only one God, and his rules apply to everybody equally.
>
>>And he never said not to use birth control, realizing not everyone can
>>afford 10 or more children.
>
> And he never said not to go to work on rainy Tuesdays.
What relevance does Tuesdays have in the RCC now? Or do you mean RCs can
now use birth control since people work on Tuesdays? When did the Pope
change it?
>
>> That not every woman's body can survive endless
>>childbearing, and that the rhythm method (never mentioned in the bible)
>>wont
>>work for all women.
>
> Bearing children is the design function of a woman.
And that's why so many can't and don't survive endless child bearing? Is
the Pope now supporting RC children born to parents who cannot afford a
houseful of children? Or only those conceived on Tuesdays?
duke
>> And he never said not to go to work on rainy Tuesdays.
>What relevance does Tuesdays have in the RCC now? Or do you mean RCs can
>now use birth control since people work on Tuesdays? When did the Pope
>change it?
I understand the circus is looking for the monkey they lost.
Parish *~
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:01:10 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>> And he never said not to go to work on rainy Tuesdays.
>
>>What relevance does Tuesdays have in the RCC now? Or do you mean RCs can
>>now use birth control since people work on Tuesdays? When did the Pope
>>change it?
>
> I understand the circus is looking for the monkey they lost.
And you're THAT monkey! :-D
Hey, you said BC was allowed on Tuesdays... not me!
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of making easy money."
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:01:10 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> And he never said not to go to work on rainy Tuesdays.
>>
>>>What relevance does Tuesdays have in the RCC now? Or do you mean RCs can
>>>now use birth control since people work on Tuesdays? When did the Pope
>>>change it?
>>
>> I understand the circus is looking for the monkey they lost.
>And you're THAT monkey! :-D
>Hey, you said BC was allowed on Tuesdays... not me!
BC? Twern't me.
OB...@aol.com
Harold camping is not predicting the year 2011 AD as he claims he is
100% sure on the dates he has :
May,21,2011 AD and October,21.2011 AD .
He attached important events to these two dates:
the rapture of the true believers and then ,after 153 days, the
annihilation of the whole universe.
I am absolutely positive the end of the physical universe will not
occur on October ,21,2011 AD.
Even the rapture is doubtful as it seems clear to me the righteous
will live on this earth.
Both rapture and end of the world I understand as spiritual events .
I am not against the two dates Harold Camping is giving as they seem
to be biblically based .This is Camping's strong side he has these two
dates . Calculations linked to them are very convincing .
But when we should consider a period of 120 years before the end in
the likeness of Noah's days here comes another blow to Harold
Camping !
He is against Jehovah's Witnesses who came from the International
Bible Students organization and they both can be related to the period
of 120 years !
If Camping rejects Jehovah's Witnesses he automaticaly rejects a
period of 120 years that is a neccessity in the prediction .
1884 AD + 120 years = 2004 AD and we have 7 years to 2011 AD that
represent 7 days of Noah's time - Genesis 7.4.
Bible Students must be linked to the endtime era should the end come
in 2011 AD !
Parish *~
> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 06:10:01 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:01:10 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> And he never said not to go to work on rainy Tuesdays.
>>>
>>>>What relevance does Tuesdays have in the RCC now? Or do you mean RCs
>>>>can
>>>>now use birth control since people work on Tuesdays? When did the Pope
>>>>change it?
>>>
>>> I understand the circus is looking for the monkey they lost.
>>And you're THAT monkey! :-D
>>Hey, you said BC was allowed on Tuesdays... not me!
>
> BC? Twern't me.
Oh Good.... then the Pope finally got real and now allows poor and
near-destitute women to use birth control 7 days a week! It's about time,
don't you agree? Condoms will also help prevent the spread of AIDS and
other diseases in poor Nations.
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of making money."
duke
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>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 06:10:01 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>>>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:01:10 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> And he never said not to go to work on rainy Tuesdays.
>>>>
>>>>>What relevance does Tuesdays have in the RCC now? Or do you mean RCs
>>>>>can
>>>>>now use birth control since people work on Tuesdays? When did the Pope
>>>>>change it?
>>>>
>>>> I understand the circus is looking for the monkey they lost.
>>>And you're THAT monkey! :-D
>>>Hey, you said BC was allowed on Tuesdays... not me!
>>
>> BC? Twern't me.
>Oh Good.... then the Pope finally got real and now allows poor and
>near-destitute women to use birth control 7 days a week! It's about time,
>don't you agree? Condoms will also help prevent the spread of AIDS and
>other diseases in poor Nations.
Explain to me how the near-destitute woman will use condoms to prevent the
spread of aids.
duke
>Folks, this is one of the most important contentious issues .
>Harold camping is not predicting the year 2011 AD as he claims he is
>100% sure on the dates he has :
>May,21,2011 AD and October,21.2011 AD .
>He attached important events to these two dates:
>the rapture of the true believers and then ,after 153 days, the
>annihilation of the whole universe.
"Rapture" is not found in scripture.
>I am absolutely positive the end of the physical universe will not
>occur on October ,21,2011 AD.
>Even the rapture is doubtful as it seems clear to me the righteous
>will live on this earth.
No man is righteous. We are all sinners. 1 John 1:8-10.
>Both rapture and end of the world I understand as spiritual events .
One is not in scripture and the other may be billions of years in the future.
>I am not against the two dates Harold Camping is giving as they seem
>to be biblically based .This is Camping's strong side he has these two
>dates . Calculations linked to them are very convincing .
He's a stupid man.
Parish *~
Why not? There are clinics in 3rd world nations giving them out for free.
There are clinics here in the USA who help the destitute with birth control
issues.
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Parish *~
<OB...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Folks, this is one of the most important contentious issues .
> Harold camping is not predicting the year 2011 AD as he claims he is
Have you bought a dog yet? Taken up a hobby?
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of making money."
Parish *~
> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:03:00 -0800 (PST), "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>>He attached important events to these two dates:
>>the rapture of the true believers and then ,after 153 days, the
>>annihilation of the whole universe.
>
> "Rapture" is not found in scripture.
Neither are rosary beads, confessional booths, pedophile priests, nuns,
purgatory........
duke
So tell me. What do you think the average near-destitute woman in the
hinterland will know about how many times a condom can be used before you throw
away your only defense? How many times can it be turned inside out and reused.
How many holes can it have before she has to throw it away, and then run down to
the nearest CircleK and buy some new ones?
duke
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>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:03:00 -0800 (PST), "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>>He attached important events to these two dates:
>>>the rapture of the true believers and then ,after 153 days, the
>>>annihilation of the whole universe.
>>
>> "Rapture" is not found in scripture.
>
>Neither are rosary beads, confessional booths, pedophile priests, nuns,
>purgatory........
Confession, also Holy Orders for Priests, and purgatory are all found in
scripture.
OB...@aol.com
Jesus as if almost 100% sure with a small chance of not happening in
2011 AD.
Just as you say "See you tomorrow " to your friend and you know
subconsciousuly (deep inside) that it may happen that you may not see
your friend again.
OB...@aol.com
--
Quite frankly the catholic religion is the greatest contradiction to
the Bible and it could be placed most likely at the bottom of the
list.
Parish *~
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:11:43 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>Why not? There are clinics in 3rd world nations giving them out for free.
>>There are clinics here in the USA who help the destitute with birth
>>control
>>issues.
>
> So tell me. What do you think the average near-destitute woman in the
> hinterland will know about how many times a condom can be used before you
> throw
> away your only defense?
She'll know what she's taught for the best protection possible.
>How many times can it be turned inside out and reused.
That depends on the quality of the condoms handed out. She may get enough
to simply dispose of them. It depends on where she lives and how well funded
the clinic is.
> How many holes can it have before she has to throw it away, and then run
> down to
> the nearest CircleK and buy some new ones?
Why are you so obsessed with condoms? They're not the only method of
birth-control out there.
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of making money."
Parish *~
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:14:22 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:03:00 -0800 (PST), "OB...@aol.com"
>>> <OB...@aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>He attached important events to these two dates:
>>>>the rapture of the true believers and then ,after 153 days, the
>>>>annihilation of the whole universe.
>>>
>>> "Rapture" is not found in scripture.
>>
>>Neither are rosary beads, confessional booths, pedophile priests, nuns,
>>purgatory........
>
> Confession, also Holy Orders for Priests, and purgatory are all found in
> scripture.
>
And where is Purgatory, confessing to a priest instead of God found in the
bible?
Parish *~
<OB...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> The best attitude to take up now is to just expect the coming of
> Jesus as if almost 100% sure with a small chance of not happening in
> 2011 AD.
There is no reason for Jesus to return in 2011. Nothing in the bible about
him returning then.
> Just as you say "See you tomorrow " to your friend and you know
> subconsciousuly (deep inside) that it may happen that you may not see
> your friend again.
>
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:11:43 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Why not? There are clinics in 3rd world nations giving them out for free.
>>>There are clinics here in the USA who help the destitute with birth
>>>control
>>>issues.
>>
>> So tell me. What do you think the average near-destitute woman in the
>> hinterland will know about how many times a condom can be used before you
>> throw
>> away your only defense?
>She'll know what she's taught for the best protection possible.
Really. So no using twice, no turning inside out, no multiple using, no holes
allowed. You really believe that?
duke
>On Dec 21, 1:31?pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net>
>Quite frankly the catholic religion is the greatest contradiction to
>the Bible and it could be placed most likely at the bottom of the
>list.
How so?
Scripture says:
1. One God in 3 persons. JW's reject.
2. Jesus gave us the Holy Mass. JW's reject.
3. Jesus gave us 7 sacraments. JW's reject.
4. Jesus gave us the Papacy. JW's reject.
But of course, you deny the divinity of Jesus as just being a man, so everything
he said in the NT is just a man mouthing off. Am I right?
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:14:22 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>>>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:03:00 -0800 (PST), "OB...@aol.com"
>>>> <OB...@aol.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>He attached important events to these two dates:
>>>>>the rapture of the true believers and then ,after 153 days, the
>>>>>annihilation of the whole universe.
>>>>
>>>> "Rapture" is not found in scripture.
>>>
>>>Neither are rosary beads, confessional booths, pedophile priests, nuns,
>>>purgatory........
>>
>> Confession, also Holy Orders for Priests, and purgatory are all found in
>> scripture.
>And where is Purgatory,
Purgatory:
Rev 21:27: "�nothing unclean will enter heaven�"
Mat 5:8: "Blessed are the clean of heart, for they will see God"
Heb 12:14: "strive�for that holiness without which no one will see the Lord".
Mat 5:48: "�be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect".
1Cor 3:13
13his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light.
It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's
work.
Matthew 12
32Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone
who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or
in the age to come.
> confessing to a priest instead of God found in the
>bible?
John 20:20-23 (New International Version)
20After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were
overjoyed when they saw the Lord.
21Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending
you." 22And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit.
23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them,
they are not forgiven."
But then again, you JW's reject the divinity of Jesus Christ as merely a human
being, so his words are useless.
Parish *~
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:48:44 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> hinterland will know about how many times a condom can be used before
>>> you
>>> throw
>>> away your only defense?
>
>>She'll know what she's taught for the best protection possible.
> Really. So no using twice, no turning inside out, no multiple using, no
> holes
> allowed. You really believe that?
She'll know what she's taught for the best protection possible. If they can
be reused and she's poor - why not?
Why are you so worried about condoms when there are so many other successful
means of birth control?
--
The Parrish *~, American-American-American.
* * * * * *
"The Mass is the most perfect form of brain washing."
Parish *~
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:50:07 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>>>>Neither are rosary beads, confessional booths, pedophile priests, nuns,
>>>>purgatory........
>>>
>>> Confession, also Holy Orders for Priests, and purgatory are all found in
>>> scripture.
>
>>And where is Purgatory,
>
> Purgatory:
>
And not one mention of a Purgatory. Read Ec. about the dead knowing
nothing. You seem as ignorant of the bible as Patrick is.
> Mat 5:8: "Blessed are the clean of heart, for they will see God"
> Heb 12:14: "strive.for that holiness without which no one will see the
> Lord".
> Mat 5:48: ".be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect".
And not one mention of a Purgatory. Read Ec. about the dead knowing
nothing.
>
> 1Cor 3:13
> 13his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to
> light.
> It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each
> man's
> work.
>
> Matthew 12
> 32Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but
> anyone
> who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this
> age or
> in the age to come.
And not one mention of a Purgatory. Some place between nowhere and nowhere.
Read Ec. about the dead knowing nothing. Learn your bible.
>
>> confessing to a priest instead of God found in the
>>bible?
>
> John 20:20-23 (New International Version)
>
> 20After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples
> were
> overjoyed when they saw the Lord.
> 21Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am
> sending
> you." 22And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy
> Spirit.
> 23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive
> them,
> they are not forgiven."
WTF? Those disciples have been dead for CENTURIES!!!!!!! You're trying to
compare THEM to the sexual deviant priests (mere men unknown to Jesus) of
today is absurd. It's a Pope inspired power-move.
>
> But then again, you JW's reject the divinity of Jesus Christ as merely a
> human
> being, so his words are useless.
I'm not a JW but have, unlike YOU, actually read the bible for myself.
--
The Parrish *~, American-American-American.
* * * * * *
"The Mass is the most perfect form of brain washing."