> Innews:T_ydnTZFL9bsMRnV...@earthlink.com,
> Amazing Grace <maranat...@nospamgmail.com> typed:
>
> > Proverbs 19:5 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that
> > speaketh lies shall not escape.
> Amen and amen!
Interesting, Vera. You say "amen and amen" to Scripture about a false
witness, yet you start a lie (bear false witness) about someone in
ARCB being "a gossip". Hmmm...let's see, what did you change the
subject title to? Oh, yeah...
"Dear me! Is Jani really such a Gossip?"
Seems to me that not only did you bear false witness against Jani, but
you were also gossiping about her being a gossip.
What say you, Vera the Nutsy?
That was a question. This is a newsgroup, and one is allowed to ask
questions, kelly the Nutsie!
> Seems to me that not only did you bear false witness against Jani, but
> you were also gossiping about her being a gossip.
ROTFL!!! That was a good one.
> What say you, Vera the Nutsy?
What say you, Kelly the Nutsie?
>
>That was a question. This is a newsgroup, and one is allowed to ask
>questions, kelly the Nutsie!
QUIET, vera666. Jani is NOT a 'gossip' == but YOU certainly are.
You are hammering more and more nails into your coffin, but are
obviously not aware of it, evildoer.
>In news:oa7c84t36pe9hogrf...@4ax.com,
>NOSPAM <nospam@nospam> typed:
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:23:59 +0200, " ::: good news runner :::"
>> <vera...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That was a question. This is a newsgroup, and one is allowed to ask
>>> questions, kelly the Nutsie!
>>
>>
>> QUIET, vera666. Jani is NOT a 'gossip' == but YOU certainly are.
>
>You are hammering more and more nails into your coffin, but are
>obviously not aware of it, evildoer.
>
Yeah? Well hand me some more nails, dearie, and I'll pound some into
yours for you.
You need to MIND THAT TONGUE with Jani, kiddo.
She is a friend of mine, and as long as I am able, I WILL stand up
for her and prove YOU the hate filled LIAR you really are.
Not a darn thing. The question was put to Vera.
Or did you miss that detail?
And answered by you.
> >> What say you, Kelly the Nutburger ?
> > Not a darn thing. The question was put to Vera.
> And answered by you.
Quite lame. Even by your low standards.
> but you were also gossiping about her being a gossip.
>> You are hammering more and more nails into your coffin, but are
>> obviously not aware of it, evildoer.
>>
> Yeah? Well hand me some more nails, dearie, and I'll pound some into
> yours for you.
It is getting clearer by every post that your master is not Jesus
Christ.
But if it is not Him, who is?
I have marked you.
For the Christians:
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and
offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own
belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the
simple. (Romans 16:17-18 KJV)
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You do like to insult. No, it wasn't lame but so obvious
and yet you walked into it. You didn't respond by chance,
hate led you here, and it will lead you around by the nose
for the rest of your life because you end up serving hate.
I have you filterd, but you managed to post this before I
had the filter engaged. I will not be seeing your replies
so you're free to entertain your violent friends. I can't
stop you from defaming and lying, but I don't have to read
it. My life is better for that little plus !
Goodbye Kelly.
Hmmm...let's see - you stated in the subject line (that you changed)
"Kelly admits that Jani is a gossip!".
Wrong.
My statement read: "...you were also gossiping about her being a
gossip". Let me help you since English is not your first language,
Vera:
"...you [that being you, Vera] were [past tense, meaning something you
had already done] gossiping [you know what the word means even though
you are in denial about being one yourself] about her [meaning you
were gossiping about Jani] being [a state of existence] a gossip
[again, you already know from personal experience what that word means
even though you are in denial about being one yourself]."
So let's break it down a little differently, since you obviously don't
have as good of an understanding of the English language as you seem
to think you do: you gossiped ABOUT Jani. That's the main point of
the sentence. If I had said: Jani is a gossip and you were gossiping
about it", *that* would have been me "admit[ing] Jani is a gossip".
The way my sentence read then and now, I did not admit Jani is a
gossip. To do so would have been a lie. Stating that *I said* Jani
is a gossip *is most certainly* a lie.
You are a liar, Vera, and someone who bears false witness. Maybe
that's why you bore false witness against me here - because of the
original topi of this thread?
I hope you now have a better understanding - if you were able to read
an comprehend English as well as you think you are able, however, this
would not be an issue, and you wouldn't have felt compelled to change
the subject and write something so completely unrelated (and unspoken
of) in this thread.
In fact, Vera, doing so (by your own deifinition) makes you a troll:
"...trolling is an attempt to anger others to the point of drawing
them into an argument or an off topic debate." Yep - you do that all
the time, liepschen.
> It is getting clearer by every post that your master is not Jesus
> Christ.
Projecting.
> But if it is not Him, who is?
Good question. Who is *yours*, Nutsy Vera? Could it be Irma Grese?
> I have marked you.
Liar.
> For the Christians:
>
> Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and
> offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
> For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own
> belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the
> simple. (Romans 16:17-18 KJV)
No you haven't, Vera. If you had "marked her", you would not respond
to nor even read, her posts any longer.
As it is, you practically salivate over them.
Oh, Rodney. Your crack me up!
How many more times are you going to say this Rod? You have told her goodbye
or claimed that she was plonked a couple of times a month for at least a
year and yet you continue fighting with her.
> > Goodbye Kelly.
> How many more times are you going to say this Rod? You have told her goodbye
> or claimed that she was plonked a couple of times a month for at least a
> year and yet you continue fighting with her.
I'm telling you, the man (and I use that term very loosely) is
obsessed with me (why, however, is beyond my imagination).
Swish..... off you to go to hell.
> Hey..lol don't feel bad she marked me too. She has this
> invisible *black magic* marker that she carries around with
> her writing graffiti all over creation.
>
> Swish..... off you to go to hell.
Al the more reason why comparing her to a Nazi is right on the money.
Sensi:
I can just see her saying " Fire up the ovens."
I'm getting them all marked..
> >> Hey..lol don't feel bad she marked me too. She has this
> >> invisible *black magic* marker that she carries around with
> >> her writing graffiti all over creation.
>
> >> Swish..... off you to go to hell.
> > Al the more reason why comparing her to a Nazi is right on the money.
> I can just see her saying " Fire up the ovens."
> I'm getting them all marked..
Yes, and grinning from ear to ear the entire time.
You are really wise, Rod.
I think I will do the same soon. I do not block, but I can ignore her if
I decide to do so. No problem for me. She is really a handful...
God bless,
::: vera :::
Do you eman I have marked a nut? Probably.
No, that was right. I did write that.
> My statement read: "...you were also gossiping about her being a
> gossip". Let me help you since English is not your first language,
> Vera:
>
> "...you [that being you, Vera] were [past tense, meaning something you
> had already done] gossiping [you know what the word means even though
> you are in denial about being one yourself] about her [meaning you
> were gossiping about Jani] being [a state of existence] a gossip
> [again, you already know from personal experience what that word means
> even though you are in denial about being one yourself]."
>
> So let's break it down a little differently, since you obviously don't
> have as good of an understanding of the English language as you seem
> to think you do: you gossiped ABOUT Jani. That's the main point of
> the sentence. If I had said: Jani is a gossip and you were gossiping
> about it", *that* would have been me "admit[ing] Jani is a gossip".
> The way my sentence read then and now, I did not admit Jani is a
> gossip. To do so would have been a lie. Stating that *I said* Jani
> is a gossip *is most certainly* a lie.
>
> You are a liar, Vera, and someone who bears false witness. Maybe
> that's why you bore false witness against me here - because of the
> original topi of this thread?
What is a "topi"?
> I hope you now have a better understanding - if you were able to read
> an comprehend English as well as you think you are able, however, this
> would not be an issue, and you wouldn't have felt compelled to change
> the subject and write something so completely unrelated (and unspoken
> of) in this thread.
>
> In fact, Vera, doing so (by your own deifinition) makes you a troll:
> "...trolling is an attempt to anger others to the point of drawing
> them into an argument or an off topic debate." Yep - you do that all
> the time, liepschen.
What is "liepschen"?
*yawn*
No, I do not follow you, Irma <Kelly> Grese.
>> I have marked you.
>
> Liar.
?
I marked you! Sure!
>> For the Christians:
>>
>> Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and
>> offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid
>> them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but
>> their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the
>> hearts of the simple. (Romans 16:17-18 KJV)
>
> No you haven't, Vera. If you had "marked her", you would not respond
> to nor even read, her posts any longer.
>
> As it is, you practically salivate over them.
I said it was for the Christians, not for you, Irma >Kelly> Grese. You
do not respect God's Word, and you have abused people who call you on
this. What a shame you call yourself a Christian!
Woaaahhh... I am impressed... this post by Scout Lady was more than two
lines long! Hmmm... maybe someone helped her.
I think you might be taking yourself a little too importantly.
It is also above my imagination why someone should take you this
seriously with your fake Gospel of recommending sin to people, twisting
the Scriptures!
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and
offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own
belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the
simple. (Romans 16:17-18 KJV)
It is Scriptural, and was written long before the Nazis.
I am not your judge - just the one who marked you.
And no, I am not grinning, but I feel so much pity for you that you are
so stubborn and stupid that you risk your eternal life.
Interesting as Christians 200+ years ago claimed that the devil marked his
followers ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
If you can't be a good example....
You'll just have to be a horrible warning.
I thank you for being so civil to me, I will return the
favor. The reason I took her out of filter was that I saw
a friend's reply to her, in which she had mentioned
something that I've hoped to clarify to her. I also had
the failing hope that she would be civil as well, but that
isn't how she feels. As for being obsessed with her, no...
thats hooey talking. I don't use google or anything else to
track Kelly's movements across the net, and this can be
verified thru google as well. Kelly has a history if
searching out where I am posting, what I post about, and
posting a provocative response, many times failing to get
a reply from me.
For the record, I may try to talk to her again later at a
time of my choosing, hoping that she has a change of heart
at some point, but not now and not in the near future.
Thank you.
I wish I didn't have to do this. It would be nice to have
a civil discussion with her, but she chooses not to, so no
conversation is possible.
Sensi:
Do you *follow* scripture as God's word or do you just read
it to everyone else?
Why don't you listen to what you read? Why does it have to
be everyone else causing division and offending people on
the ng's and not yourself?
I mean....after all, whose going around *creating* these
messes you get yourself into?
I guess you were born with warts.
You must have one...
Correct. It is impossible to talk with that lady without being abused.
They probably did not know the Scriptures too well.
Indeed - And they used to search the accused for them, often using a special
device to stab at anything suspicious. Lovely :P
--
If I understand this passage correctly:
It is directed to what to do within the congregation than in general
public (cf Rom 1:7); by avoiding than engaging the offenders; who were
motivated by "their own belly".
Because they were characterized by good words and fair speeches for
their own belly, I suspect they may be professional orators common in
the ancient Rome - but that's guesswork on my part as the writer does
not expand on it.
Cheers.
>
> Cathy, you're a nut, and a phony.
Whatever you say, short bus.
>
>I have marked you.
You have? My, my-- I just got out of the shower about 15 minutes ago,
Madame, and I have no marks on me except the burn on my arm that is
healing. Better luck next time.
>Scout Lady wrote:
>> " ::: good news runner :::" <vera...@lycos.com> wrote in message
>> news:6eoq7gF...@mid.individual.net...
>>> In news:pbhc84pog7dm1i615...@4ax.com,
>>>
>>> I have marked you.
>>>
>> What a nut!
>>
>>
>Sensi:
>Hey..lol don't feel bad she marked me too. She has this
>invisible *black magic* marker that she carries around with
>her writing graffiti all over creation.
>
>Swish..... off you to go to hell.
Doesn't she WISH!!!!
However, Sensi, vera is none too bright in making such claims --- when
they all start bouncing back and hitting her in the face, she'll wish
she had not said such silly things.
><316> wrote:
>> On Jul 23, 7:11 am, Sensi <sensi4si...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey..lol don't feel bad she marked me too. She has this
>>> invisible *black magic* marker that she carries around with
>>> her writing graffiti all over creation.
>>>
>>> Swish..... off you to go to hell.
>>
>> Al the more reason why comparing her to a Nazi is right on the money.
>>
>
>Sensi:
>I can just see her saying " Fire up the ovens."
>I'm getting them all marked..
Yep -- I can almost hear her saying that too.
>
>I am not your judge - just the one who marked you.
'You' don't get to 'mark' ANYONE, nutter.
So close your trap before you trip and fall into it yourself.
>
>You must have one...
Try proving she does, nutter.
HEY- MOUTH.
You've been corrected numerous times concerning your wayward behavior.
Clean it up.
I guess there are more than one, Elphaba.
And did you find the time to count your warts already, Elphaba.?
Oh, so you say Paul said silly things... or that he used "black
magic"... I see, I see... You will see what you will get for that later.
No, not from me!
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and
offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own
belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the
simple. (Romans 16:17-18 KJV)
But I do, evildoer. I have a direct order from Paul to do so, and he was
authorised by - guess!
> So close your trap before you trip and fall into it yourself.
I would call such things evil spells, not what Paul recommended the
Christians to do.
You've been corrected numerous times concerning your wayward behavior.
Clean it up..
Roy, I have never seen you understand anything correctly!
I would recommend you to pray to the Lord to give you the Spirit to
understand. Your motivation to post here might be wrong.
>> Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and
>> offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
>> For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own
>> belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the
>> simple. (Romans16:17-18KJV)
>
> If I understand this passage correctly:
> It is directed to what to do within the congregation than in general
> public (cf Rom 1:7); by avoiding than engaging the offenders; who were
> motivated by "their own belly".
>
Sensi:
Why would they divide the congregation from the public?
Wouldn't you still treat everyone the same and if they
didn't wouldn't they be motivated by "their own belly?"
A fair question I hope. ;-)
> Because they were characterized by good words and fair speeches for
> their own belly, I suspect they may be professional orators common in
> the ancient Rome - but that's guesswork on my part as the writer does
> not expand on it.
>
Sensi:
Oh, you mean in the olden days.
Sensi:
That was uncalled for!
>
> I would recommend you to pray to the Lord to give you the Spirit to
> understand. Your motivation to post here might be wrong.
>
Sensi:
Ever hear a bell go Wrong with a GONG?......
How rude and arrogant can a person get?
You take the prize of the meanest bull around.
>>>------------------->
Cute. That's what Roy gets for putting the verse in actual context.
How dare he give an *educated* opinion?
Why, the nerve of some people...
*¿*
No, it was not. I was my honest opinion about the drivel he usually
comes up with. He should try to get a life instead of defending the
world.
What is valid for a church of the first century is valid for the Body of
Christ everywhere. There is no limitation to a special church. I am
weary of defending myself to people like Roy who have nothing better to
do than watch my postings to prove something wrong in them - which there
is not, since I am "in Christ" when I post Scripture, and the Spirit
explains it *to me* - obviously he does not get the Spirit and analyses
Scripture with a carnal mind. It is good that he probably reads the
Scripture, but He has not understood it. Obviously he cannot understand
it - as little as you can.
>> I would recommend you to pray to the Lord to give you the Spirit to
>> understand. Your motivation to post here might be wrong.
>>
> Sensi:
> Ever hear a bell go Wrong with a GONG?......
> How rude and arrogant can a person get?
> You take the prize of the meanest bull around.
Was I talking to you there, evildoer? Roy's motivation *is* wrong - seen
from a Spiritual and Christian side.
>
>But I do, evildoer. I have a direct order from Paul to do so, and he was
>authorised by - guess!
Whatever you say, short bus II...
>
>Roy, I have never seen you understand anything correctly!
>
>I would recommend you to pray to the Lord to give you the Spirit to
>understand. Your motivation to post here might be wrong.
Got news for you, chickie -- ROY has been posting here longer than
you, and also knows a lot more than you. So clam up.
>
>
>What is valid for a church of the first century is valid for the Body of
>Christ everywhere. There is no limitation to a special church. I am
>weary of defending myself to people like Roy who have nothing better to
>do than watch my postings to prove something wrong in them
Which is never hard to do...
>
>I guess there are more than one, Elphaba.
copycat--- just like johnnie!
Hahahahahaha!
The longer you post, the more right you are, huh?
You are so stupid, wicko.
In news:qqvg84tjeloguh4l1...@4ax.com,
NOSPAM <nospam@nospam> typed:
> > Whatever you say, short bus III
Do you even know what "short bus" means, Vera?
>UTTER nonsense
Well, on the passage before us -
I checked against the five or so commentaries on Romans I've collected
over the years, and they affirm that this passage does not tell us how
to relate to the general public regards false doctrine, and that the
injunction relates to internal congregation matters - none see it
applies to the church universal.
We went thu Romans about 5 times while at uni; heard at least 6
sermons on Romans by different ministers, did coursework at a
theological college on Romans, a couple of years ago our Bible study
group spent some 7 months trawling thru Romans.
With that background, I'm wary we could apply Rom 16:17-18 outside our
congregations. But having said that; it does not stop the Holy Spirit
to reveal otherwise to others.
> I would recommend you to pray to the Lord to give you the Spirit to
> understand. ...
That's been the common practice in the circles I move around in.
Prayer is such a central part of our lives. Prayer is a privilege
> ...Your motivation to post here might be wrong.
I tend to be sensitive if the scriptures have not been rightly divided
(2Ti 2:15) as eisogesis negates scripture speaking on it's own terms.
My motivation is to engage in discussion, share our understandings,
and appreciate where others are coming from. I'm not interested in ad-
hom.
Cheers.
The last I looked, my first foray into ACC was in 1992, but before the
advent of the internet, I had been in bulletin boards with my first
computer in 1983-ish. I've mellowed a lot since, more laid back, more
accommodating, less aggressive.
> ... and also knows a lot more than you. So clam up.
That embarassng. I will never tire of reading the scriptures after
all He's done for me on the Cross. "I will delight myself in thy
statutes: I will not forget thy word." ( Psa 119:16).
Cheers.
Thank you Roy. Its obvious you have done in depth study on Romans and are
very knowlegable of its meaning.
God bless,
Grace
I suspect your perspective is lost on Vera, although it is certainly
welcomed by most of the people I know (Christian and others)
Jani
[znip]
> Thank you Roy. Its obvious you have done in depth study on Romans and are
> very knowlegable of its meaning.
I wouldn't pitch myself that way; more that I've had a fair bit of
exposure to it and hope to be on top of it.
There's lots of highlights in it to savor and digest. Chapter 14 is
one that pulls me back from being judgemental of others.
Thank you for your kind words.
Cheers.
> God bless,
> Grace
Thnx muchly :-)
.... and likewise.
Cheers.
>
> Jani
You betcha. But that is not the point.
>
> Jani
Do you know what it means?
> >>> Whatever you say, short bus III
> > Do you even know what "short bus" means, Vera?
> Do you know what it means?
I most certainly do. Now, once again: Do you even know what "short
bus" means, Vera?
> >>>>> Whatever you say, short bus III
> >>> Do you even know what "short bus" means, Vera?
> >> Do you know what it means?
> > I most certainly do. Now, once again: Do you even know what "short
> > bus" means, Vera?
> Do you know what it means?
Uhh...yeah, Vera - I already answered that I know what it means.
Your inability to either "let your yes be yes and your no be no
(another Scripture quotation - do you know which one?) shows clearly
that you do not know what you are saying when you parrot the phrase
"short bus". You'd rather pretend to know (and look like an idiot)
than admit you don't know (and look like an idiot).
Polly wanna cracker?
>
>Do you know what it means?
TRANSLATION:
I don't know what 'short bus' means, so I'll play innocent and wait
to see if Kelly will define it for me...
>In news:orvg84tqietv77ntq...@4ax.com,
>NOSPAM <nospam@nospam> typed:
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:31:10 +0200, " ::: good news runner :::"
>> <vera...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Roy, I have never seen you understand anything correctly!
>>>
>>> I would recommend you to pray to the Lord to give you the Spirit to
>>> understand. Your motivation to post here might be wrong.
>>
>>
>> Got news for you, chickie -- ROY has been posting here longer than
>> you, and also knows a lot more than you. So clam up.
>
>Hahahahahaha!
>
>The longer you post, the more right you are, huh?
>
>You are so stupid, wicko.
>
OTC, madame... the stupid one is yourself. I never claimed that length
of posting time makes a person 'right' - you did.
And whether you like it or not, short II, Roy IS much more
intelligent than you.
Don't be embarrassed over a compliment, Roy. It's nice to see you
back.
I don't know what 'short bus' means, so I'll play innocent and wait to
see if Kelly will define it for me...
In news:hhjm84peev595gr3d...@4ax.com,
NOSPAM <nospam@nospam> typed:
In news:sjjm84p8crooqvj21...@4ax.com,
>Jani said:
>> I suspect your perspective is lost on Vera, although it is certainly
>> welcomed by most of the people I know (Christian and others)
>
>You betcha. But that is not the point.
Not according to you, vera...... but too many of US know what YOUR
point is-- your point is to make yourself heard above everyone
else........ you want everything YOUR way, or no way at all.
Your arrogance knows no bounds.
Your hypocrisy is even worse, and you constantly bearing false witness
against others prove what you not only ARE, but are NOT.
Your arrogance knows no bounds.
Your hypocrisy is even worse, and you constantly bearing false witness
against others prove what you not only ARE, but are NOT.
In addition, you are the boss of all the spammers, trolls and mobbers in
arcb.
In news:6rjm84l0h6s9nl732...@4ax.com,
NOSPAM <nospam@nospam> typed:
> Your arrogance knows no bounds.
no, but Doc does seem almost omniscient the way she makes you look silly.
> you constantly bearing false witness against others
perhaps if you'd show a few of what you contemplate are her false
witnesses JohnH could give you a few more English lessons, he's very
helpful that way you know! and even tho u b SSveraSS i'll allow it.
> In addition, you are the boss of all the spammers, trolls and mobbers in
> arcb.
misleading, this is ujb's ng and I allow Doc to be here, but with power,
just as I allow you here with silly.
In news:3pOdnX09Nfh1ERbV...@comcast.com,
ujb <u...@bigfoot.com> typed:
yet it is you SSveraSS asking people to go post to the satanic groups!
What a hypocrite you show yourself as being. but stay with us, and
learn.....
ujb
If you belong there, go there, and save us from your drivel, SSujbSS
> What a hypocrite you show yourself as being. but stay with us, and
> learn.....
Whatever you think you are, short bus!
> ujb
my my, but aren't you ez! haha
>> What a hypocrite you show yourself as being. but stay with us, and
>> learn.....
>
> Whatever you think you are, short bus!
too funny lol
>> ujb
>
>
>
>In addition, you are the boss of all the spammers, trolls and mobbers in
>arcb.
Fine, short bus. Then pay me for your protection.. after all, you
claim 'I'm the mob boss' ... so -- let's have that stash of cash.
>
>misleading, this is ujb's ng and I allow Doc to be here, but with power,
>just as I allow you here with silly.
More money!! I wantz more money! :O)