I find it very coincidental that Jani and I bring up Vera's harassment
of Ninure Saunders to her today, and then I get a hateful email from
Vera.
Opinions? Comments?
Vera is a nut, best thing to do would be to just change your email address
and block her.
That's a thought. Thanks for your input.
> Welcome to the club, Kelly.
>
> I had a similar experience with "John Wolf". I offered to talk with
> him privately, I evidently pissed him off, so he revealed our
> discussions IN HERE, and then he lied.
>
> Sorry you feel betrayed, Kelly.
>
You don't even understand the situation short bus.
>
> A lot of what's happening to you of a negative nature, you've
> brought on yourself (as many of you -- including YOU) have said about
> me.
>
> But I'm sorry you feel you are being attacked.
>
Poor short bus always clueless.
You missed the point, John. She wasn't invited to contact me by
email. AFAIC, what happens in here is fair game because it's a public
forum, contacting me by email in a negative manner is crossing the
line. And this is not the first time she's done it - she did it a few
years ago to a blind woman named Ninure Saunders.
It may have been unintentional. I responded to a post to Carl one day
and was sure that I was posting to the newsgroup, but instead I sent
the email to his personal email. He threatened legal action (which I
found amusing and not at all threatening - Carl making threats just
isn't very scary to me) but I had erred so I apologized to him, IN the
newsgroup.
He graciously accepted the apology and we've gone on.
However, when I've had silly hateful humans send me email I simply
tell them that the second email I get from them gets posted in the
newsgroups so everyone can see and enjoy me humiliating them.
I'm kinda the antichrist that way. ;-)
What the hell are you babbling about? I've had no email correspondence with
Andrew, nor have I talked about the content of ANY private emails in the
group.
>>Cause you blabbed it all in the past short bus.
>
> No, short bus, I didn't. Jani even said that Andrew had said things
> IN HERE that I had told him privately.
I've done no such thing. That's a flat-out lie, John. Retract and apologise,
please.
Jani
>
>>
>>> Welcome to the club, Kelly.
>>>
>>> I had a similar experience with "John Wolf". I offered to talk with
>>> him privately, I evidently pissed him off, so he revealed our
>>> discussions IN HERE, and then he lied.
>>>
>>> Sorry you feel betrayed, Kelly.
>>>
>>You don't even understand the situation short bus.
>
> I understand being betrayed, short bus.
>
> I understand thinking things you take out of the group into private
> e-mail to keep them CONFIDENTIAL being openly discussed in here.
>
> You're not nearly as smart as you think, short bus, and I'm not
> nearly as dumb as you think.
>
> AGAIN, I'm betting I have more education, I'm betting I've read
> more, and I'm betting I've done more traveling.
>
> However, I have no interest in engaging in a pissing contest with
> you.
>
>
>
>>>
>>> A lot of what's happening to you of a negative nature, you've
>>> brought on yourself (as many of you -- including YOU) have said about
>>> me.
>>>
>>> But I'm sorry you feel you are being attacked.
>>>
>>Poor short bus always clueless.
>
> Poor short bus! You think WAY too highly of yourself.
>
> You COULD pretend to be human occasionally, you know!
>
>>
>
Block her, as SL says, or else warn her that further unsolicited email will
be posted to the group and replied to in public. I had an incredibly
exasperating go-round with some nutbar last year, who INSISTED I was
emailing him (I was replying to his ng posts, *on the ng*) and would simply
NOT accept that he'd somehow set his replies to 'author' instead of 'group'.
In the end I had to block him; every time I posted to the ng I'd get an
email from him yelling STOP EMAILING ME! Quite, quite loopy.
Jani
now you see why the 'scrambled one' is called liar-johnnie!
> Jani
>
> You reply to my attempt at helping you by insulting me!
>
See above short bus.
> Cathy, "you're a pig!"
>
You say the sweetest things short bus.
>>
>>> Welcome to the club, Kelly.
>>>
>>> I had a similar experience with "John Wolf". I offered to talk with
>>> him privately, I evidently pissed him off, so he revealed our
>>> discussions IN HERE, and then he lied.
>>>
>>> Sorry you feel betrayed, Kelly.
>>>
>>You don't even understand the situation short bus.
>
> I understand being betrayed, short bus.
>
Janie says that she has never had email correspondence with Andrew so you
may feel that you were betrayed but it only happened in your disordered
mind.
> I understand thinking things you take out of the group into private
> e-mail to keep them CONFIDENTIAL being openly discussed in here.
>
You should keep what you don't want known to yourself then there would be
zero chance that someone would spill the beans short bus.
> You're not nearly as smart as you think, short bus, and I'm not
> nearly as dumb as you think.
>
You are right, you appear to be dumber than I thought possible short bus.
> AGAIN, I'm betting I have more education, I'm betting I've read
> more, and I'm betting I've done more traveling.
>
That is a bet you would lose short bus.
> However, I have no interest in engaging in a pissing contest with
> you.
>
Well of course not you know that you can't win short bus.
>
>
>>>
>>> A lot of what's happening to you of a negative nature, you've
>>> brought on yourself (as many of you -- including YOU) have said about
>>> me.
>>>
>>> But I'm sorry you feel you are being attacked.
>>>
>>Poor short bus always clueless.
>
> Poor short bus! You think WAY too highly of yourself.
>
> You COULD pretend to be human occasionally, you know!
>
You are such a sad and silly nutcase short bus.
I picked up on this thread via a Google notification...
If anyone here had had the privilege of meeting Ninure, and spending a
few hours listening to her story - and you were not psychopathological -
you would be feeling the deepest empahty for her. She's an amazing
survivor.
(For any who do not know who Ninure is, see
http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/14826.htm )
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If you can't block me, you should get a real newsreader.
> IOW, Vera intentionally posted to my personal email address,
> rather than to the newsgroups.
That is a lie. Why do gays lie so much?
I post through Outlook Express and hit the wrong button. I am so sorry!
If you do not like it that it happens again, you can block me.
Why should I want to have a private e-mail contact with you? No, it is
not that I refrain because you are gay, but because you are a Nazi who
loves to smear others for their Scriptural opinion in Christian
newsgroups and cannot stand to hear the truth about themselves since
they have their lifestyle first and God after that.
> I find it very coincidental that Jani and I bring up Vera's harassment
> of Ninure Saunders to her today, and then I get a hateful email from
> Vera.
>
> Opinions? Comments?
Yes, you are a liar in addition to all the rest, Irma Greese. The smear
campaign you have incited here again due to a simple mistake shows who
you are, Nazi gay.
Be careful, I have saved all your libellous posts from the past for
future reference.
I have never written e-mails to Ninure Saunders.
JERRY
Actually it's the Christians who lie so much around here, Vera. All
you have to do is ask them to produce proof and you find the lies very
quickly. For example, I can ask you: do you have to believe in the
Trinity to be saved?
You aren't a very bright Christian, and you immediately (as you have
in the past) say that you do. I then ask you to produce verses in the
text that shows it, and you are at a loss. You are sure the bible
says so, but the fact is, you are wrong, and when you can't proof it,
you still believe it and continue to say it.
>
> I post through Outlook Express and hit the wrong button. I am so sorry!
>
> If you do not like it that it happens again, you can block me.
>
> Why should I want to have a private e-mail contact with you? No, it is
> not that I refrain because you are gay, but because you are a Nazi
JERRY
Actually, Middle-aged German woman, it's a bit easier to paint that
swastika on you from your behavior. Let's remember that it was the
intolerance of the German people toward the gypsies, the homosexuals
and the Jews that led to the Holocaust, and I see that you carry that
same intolerance with you today.
who
> loves to smear others for their Scriptural opinion in Christian
> newsgroups and cannot stand to hear the truth about themselves since
> they have their lifestyle first and God after that.
JERRY
Actually, the hateful stuff in the newsgroups all seems to come from
you, Chuck, Carl and Dave these days. Kelly is courteous to pretty
much everyone, except john and Bob (though I've not seen Bob around in
the groups in ages.)
And, to be honest, your behavior is atrocious and undeserving of
courtesy. ;-)
>
> > I find it very coincidental that Jani and I bring up Vera's harassment
> > of Ninure Saunders to her today, and then I get a hateful email from
> > Vera.
>
> > Opinions? Comments?
>
> Yes, you are a liar in addition to all the rest, Irma Greese. The smear
> campaign you have incited here again due to a simple mistake shows who
> you are, Nazi gay.
>
> Be careful, I have saved all your libellous posts from the past for
> future reference.
JERRY
Oooooooooooooooh, scary. LOL.
Never mind blustering. I've had no email correspondence with Andrew, nor
have I talked about the content of ANY private emails in the group. So WHERE
are these posts in which I supposedly talk about your emails to Andrew?
Jani
You have caught me in no lies, because I haven't told any.
Now, WHERE are these posts in which I supposedly talk about your emails to
Andrew?
Jani
>
> Stick it!
>
> john w
>
Yep - some of his exaggerations and distortions could be down to poor
memory, genuine mistake, etc, but this is a total and utter fabrication.
Jani
Sensi:
Since you are the only one who claims to follow the bible
in it's scriptural entirely there is a verse that goes
something like this:
Proverbs 13:10: "Only by pride cometh contention: but with
the well advised is wisdom."
If we have a problem with a brother or sister in the Lord,
we are to humbly go to the one and try to work it out. We
must not get in an attitude of being prideful, thinking our
way is right. If we will consider the other person in love,
the Lord will give us grace and wisdom to work out our
problems. Contention comes when we refuse to humble our
hearts and attempt to deal with the conflicting issues in
our flesh.
http://www.bible.com/devotional-detail.php?juli=2454630&dtype=Proverbs
It would have better to privately email then to try to smear
her in public don't you think?.
Then there is this verse that might be applicable to
the situation you've put on display.
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own
eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote
out of thy brother's eye.
Sensi
he is doing what he does best, lying...
the tard is lying again... lol
we know it is the retards way. The way of a fool is right in his own
eyes; But he that is wise hearkeneth unto counsel.
She is like a butcher who tries to transplant a heart. lol
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Sensi <sensi...@yahoo.com> typed:
Interesting...
What an interesting confession!
Why are you sniping like this?
Quite sure, Vera. Bear in mind that when you posted *your* private
correspondence to the group, it was no longer private. Were you wanting to
discuss that correspondence again, perhaps?
Jani
so here we have a lie from the retard 'that' doesn't lie! lol
> The liar in this dialogue is you.
>> Jani
>>
>>
>
Yeah, you do that.
>
> I HIGHLY doubt it. And I've caught you in more than one lie. All
> you did was bluster and bluff!
OK, then, show the posts in which you've done so.
Jani
You cannot shut me up. Have you not found out by now? Be careful with
your threats - they might backfire.
>
> Jani
Correct!
>> Jani
I did not know that Jani was such a gossip! But who knows... I once
thought she was a nice lady, too, and she proved me wrong.
What they cannot stand is people who really believe in God's Word...
This attracts their hate - as foretold in the Bible to us...
So all is well and obviously in God's hands.
Jani is such a nut that she believes she can shut up real Christians by
her lies and libel and malicious attacks. But I guess by and by she has
lost all the credits she had...
What a stupidity, coming here into a Christian newsgroup to attack the
Christians all the time...
no 'SS good news runner SS', he is the liar.
>
i always luv it when ss vera ss comes to the baptist group!
>> Jani
>
>
poor stupid can't do that, he can't read maps... lol
> Jani
stupid, she said you are in error, you are the known liar, she isn't
unless you can show one.
please post a few if you can stupid!
> "There is no 6th C church in England!" is one.
she is right as far as the records show, if she said otherwise she'd be
lying.
> nor
>> have I talked about the content of ANY private emails in the group.
>
> I don't believe you.
show she lied, or are u 2 stupid to post it?
> And yet, there is another explanation. But you're so DAMN quick to
> accuse, I don't see any reason to bother explaining.
as we expect from a liar!
> However, for the curiosity of others, PERHAPS, Andrew told you the
> contents of our e-mail without telling you where he got the
> information.
or so you jumped to conclusions without asking?
> So WHERE
>> are these posts in which I supposedly talk about your emails to Andrew?
>
>
> see above.
it's a weatherlie until you show proof stupid
> I'm not going to bother with you further.
run johnnie run....
> You are hysterical, you're a gossip, and you're a liar.
papa porn, you are the only one hysterical and lying
sunie
yes, lets do
> Jani
>
> If you can't block me, you should get a real newsreader.
Now, isn't that an interesting way to start your reply. Rather than
addressing the issue at hand, you put all the blame on me.
> > IOW, Vera intentionally posted to my personal email address,
> > rather than to the newsgroups.
> That is a lie.
Is it?
> Why do gays lie so much?
Do you have some kind of proof, statistics or demographics on lying,
that show lesbians and homosexuals lie more per capita than any other
group of people? How about Germans, Vera? Some could say that
Germans lie more than Americans because they have more to hide from
their past of hatred and cruelty.
Okay - yes, Germans lie more than anybody. ;-)
> I post through Outlook Express and hit the wrong button. I am so sorry!
You know...if that is the truth, I have no problem accepting that.
But, somehow, from what I can see of the tone of your words above, and
from the obvious tone of your posts in the past, I kinda think that
you may not be telling the truth.
But, as Christians, we are to forgive when asked to forgive...
What to do? Believe and forgive or disbelieve and forgive...
> If you do not like it that it happens again, you can block me.
Maybe you can: a) never email me again - or - b) make sure you don't
"hit the wrong button" again.
But, why should I have to do anything when you were the one who did
something you shouldn't have? Again, you are trying to shift the
blame to me, Vera. One is forced to wonder why.
> Why should I want to have a private e-mail contact with you?
To harass me. Because you have a history of harassing gay posters.
> No, it is
> not that I refrain because you are gay,
Actually, if you have lied about doing it by accident, I think you
definitely *would* email me because I am gay. Because you like to
harass gay people. Because you essentially hate gay people with a
passion.
Why is that, Vera? Why do you hate gay people so much?
> but because you are a Nazi who
> loves to smear others for their Scriptural opinion in Christian
> newsgroups
Now, is that true, Vera? Do you have proof that I "love to smear
others for their Scriptural opinion in Christian newsgroups"?
> and cannot stand to hear the truth about themselves since
> they have their lifestyle first and God after that.
Well, technically, I can't "hear" anything on the newsgroups since
there's no audible participation available here.
But...let's consider what you've said here: "lifestyle first and God
after that". First, I don't have a "lifestyle" other than living
life. The claim that there is a "gay lifestyle" is essentially a myth
created up to put fear in people that we are so very different from
the rest of them. You know, kinda like the way the Nazi's put fear in
Germans that Jews were different, therefore, they had to be
eliminated.
Is that how you feel, Vera - that gays should be eliminated? Do you
get all happy inside when you say that gays will burn in hell?
But, I digreess...
Now - you say I put God second. Not on your life. I've been saved
since 1975 Vera, and I take that very, very seriously. Besides -
we've never met, so how is it possible that you could know anything
about how I live my day to day and/or my spiritual life?
> > I find it very coincidental that Jani and I bring up Vera's harassment
> > of Ninure Saunders to her today, and then I get a hateful email from
> > Vera.
> Yes, you are a liar in addition to all the rest, Irma Greese. The smear
> campaign you have incited here again due to a simple mistake shows who
> you are, Nazi gay.
Not a "smear campaign", Vera - just stating the facts. Jani and I
brought up Ninure Saunders to you yesterday, and I get a harassing
email from you the same day. That is a fact.
> Be careful, I have saved all your libellous posts from the past for
> future reference.
Be careful of what? I've not done anything wrong, Vera.
And, come on, be serious - you've saved all of my posts to you from
the past? Give me a break. Now, be honest - you haven't saved
anything, except maybe from yesterday, Vera.
You know, it seems to me that *if* you would lie about saving my posts
from the last 2 1/2 years that you *would* lie about "hit[ting] the
wrong button" and sending that email by accident...
From where I sit right now - I'm inclined not to believe you.
Regardless, I choose to take the high road here and forgive you, even
though I don't believe you. It's what Jesus would do.
> I have never written e-mails to Ninure Saunders.
Are you sure about that, Vera? Or is that another lie?
Oh Ja, die mächtige Königin des Nordens, sind Sie auf alle
Ihre Weisen und uns rechtschaffen Würmer grüßen Sie..... NICHT!
> Oh Ja, die mächtige Königin des Nordens, sind Sie auf alle
> Ihre Weisen und uns rechtschaffen Würmer grüßen Sie..... NICHT!-
That didn't translate very well, Rodney. Babel fish has let you down
once again.
> What they cannot stand is people who really believe in God's Word...
> This attracts their hate - as foretold in the Bible to us...
Sensi:
No one hates you cause you believe the Bible is God's word
it's how you *abuse* the Bible to curse and hate others for
what you don't do yourself.
:-)
That was really good! It made my day, really!
Fact was that the lesbian Ninure Saunders was the one who sent e-mails
to my former pastor who has never written in a newsgroup and had nothing
to do with the stuff here. They had attacked me for years, and I told
poster Diana from ACC she should shut her fat lying mouth. Enough was
really enough, and I still stand behind my words even today. This was
what lesbian Saunders sent to my pastor who does not understand English
well, nor did he know anything of the usenet and the hatefilled posters
there - so now tell me who has harassed whom? She was the one who caused
harm to me in my private life. When I complained about what she had
done, they twisted it all around and claimed it was all my fault. When I
asked Saunders how she would feel if I did that to her they claimed I
had threatened Saunders to death and exposed her to danger because I had
posted a mail with her a-mail address which she had posted herself
several thousand times all over the usenet. lol
Well, e-mailing people in a newsgroup is nothing generally bad or a sin,
but Irma <Kelly> Grese thinks one has to be blamed for it. But in this
case here it was just the wrong button. I can say my point publicly and
do not need e-mails for this purpose. I can prove that she started a
smear campaign against me a while ago, and if she continues that just
because I am a German, I will defend myself in the future.
It is sad, but some cannot understand any other language. They have left
the base of a proper conversation among adults.
Friede sei mit Dir,
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Next johnnie will probably accuse you of cancelling his old email accounts
or calling him at home and hanging up. He's accused me of doing both. LOL -
Like I'd waste my time :P
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If you can't be a good example....
You'll just have to be a horrible warning.
Show it, short bus.
>
> You cross the line every time you come in here.
Oh boo fucking hoo, short bus. Stop reading her posts then.
>
> Just because it's Usenet doesn't give you license for libel and lies.
Oh wah. See above, short bus.
>
> I have to go with Vera this time!
With or without the gun to her head, short bus?
There is nothing wrong with sending e-mails to posters in egneral. There
is nobody to "blame", stupid one.
>
>>> IOW, Vera intentionally posted to my personal email address,
>>> rather than to the newsgroups.
>
>> That is a lie.
>
> Is it?
Yes!
>> Why do gays lie so much?
>
> Do you have some kind of proof, statistics or demographics on lying,
> that show lesbians and homosexuals lie more per capita than any other
> group of people? How about Germans, Vera? Some could say that
> Germans lie more than Americans because they have more to hide from
> their past of hatred and cruelty.
>
> Okay - yes, Germans lie more than anybody. ;-)
Oh, is it lesbians against Germans now? How funny! ;-)
>> I post through Outlook Express and hit the wrong button. I am so
>> sorry!
>
> You know...if that is the truth, I have no problem accepting that.
> But, somehow, from what I can see of the tone of your words above, and
> from the obvious tone of your posts in the past, I kinda think that
> you may not be telling the truth.
>
> But, as Christians, we are to forgive when asked to forgive...
>
> What to do? Believe and forgive or disbelieve and forgive...
That is completely up to you.
>> If you do not like it that it happens again, you can block me.
>
> Maybe you can: a) never email me again - or - b) make sure you don't
> "hit the wrong button" again.
Maybe.
> But, why should I have to do anything when you were the one who did
> something you shouldn't have? Again, you are trying to shift the
> blame to me, Vera. One is forced to wonder why.
>
>> Why should I want to have a private e-mail contact with you?
>
> To harass me. Because you have a history of harassing gay posters.
That is what you say, but which is not true.
>> No, it is
>> not that I refrain because you are gay,
>
> Actually, if you have lied about doing it by accident, I think you
> definitely *would* email me because I am gay. Because you like to
> harass gay people. Because you essentially hate gay people with a
> passion.
What a liar you are!
> Why is that, Vera? Why do you hate gay people so much?
You would love it if I hated you, huh? Fact is I just wrote about you
what you wrote falsely about me in the past.
>> but because you are a Nazi who
>> loves to smear others for their Scriptural opinion in Christian
>> newsgroups
>
> Now, is that true, Vera? Do you have proof that I "love to smear
> others for their Scriptural opinion in Christian newsgroups"?
Sure.
Have you proof that I am a Nazi?
Have you proof that I am "Irma Grese"?
But the groups are full of such libel from you - which I can prove. In
fact, a simply Google search would do.
>> and cannot stand to hear the truth about themselves since
>> they have their lifestyle first and God after that.
>
> Well, technically, I can't "hear" anything on the newsgroups since
> there's no audible participation available here.
>
> But...let's consider what you've said here: "lifestyle first and God
> after that". First, I don't have a "lifestyle" other than living
> life. The claim that there is a "gay lifestyle" is essentially a myth
> created up to put fear in people that we are so very different from
> the rest of them. You know, kinda like the way the Nazi's put fear in
> Germans that Jews were different, therefore, they had to be
> eliminated.
>
> Is that how you feel, Vera - that gays should be eliminated? Do you
> get all happy inside when you say that gays will burn in hell?
>
> But, I digreess...
That is true, and all you have written above are lies and false
implications and your pure opinion based on empty air.
> Now - you say I put God second. Not on your life. I've been saved
> since 1975 Vera, and I take that very, very seriously. Besides -
> we've never met, so how is it possible that you could know anything
> about how I live my day to day and/or my spiritual life?
You take nothing seriously but your lesbian sexual orientation. You
would not lie so much if you loved God.
>>> I find it very coincidental that Jani and I bring up Vera's
>>> harassment of Ninure Saunders to her today, and then I get a
>>> hateful email from Vera.
>
>> Yes, you are a liar in addition to all the rest, Irma Greese. The
>> smear campaign you have incited here again due to a simple mistake
>> shows who you are, Nazi gay.
>
> Not a "smear campaign", Vera - just stating the facts.
Since when is it a fact that I am a "Nazi"? Or "Irma Grese"? Or that I
would like lesbians to burn or things like that?
> Jani and I
> brought up Ninure Saunders to you yesterday, and I get a harassing
> email from you the same day. That is a fact.
Ninure harassed me - that is a fact.
>> Be careful, I have saved all your libellous posts from the past for
>> future reference.
>
> Be careful of what? I've not done anything wrong, Vera.
You insulted and persecuted me for my faith in the Bible. You cannot
stand people quoting Romans 1.
> And, come on, be serious - you've saved all of my posts to you from
> the past? Give me a break. Now, be honest - you haven't saved
> anything, except maybe from yesterday, Vera.
I have archived all of ACC from the past years - with full headers. Your
posts in which you called me names like Nazi or Irma Greese are all
among them and can easily be filtered out. I do not even need Google for
that.
> You know, it seems to me that *if* you would lie about saving my posts
> from the last 2 1/2 years that you *would* lie about "hit[ting] the
> wrong button" and sending that email by accident...
?
How stupid are you? Does anyone understand what you are babbling but
yourself?
> From where I sit right now - I'm inclined not to believe you.
Whatever - that is not my fault.
> Regardless, I choose to take the high road here and forgive you, even
> though I don't believe you. It's what Jesus would do.
You have no idea of what Jesus would do.
>> I have never written e-mails to Ninure Saunders.
>
> Are you sure about that, Vera? Or is that another lie?
I do not lie, and you can claim whatever - it does not become right.
But wait - I have sent e-mails to her once or twice in the beginning...
but they were of encouraging nature, ad I think I even apologised to her
in one for something. I was really very kind to her then, but I had not
known her for too long and did not even know she was a lesbian. I guess
I still have them somewhere... It must have been five years ago when ACC
was still a community... Are you talking about those?
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You mean you abused mentioning this gay lady's name to advertise for gay
stalkers in Christian newsgroups again?
> If anyone here had had the privilege of meeting Ninure
Yes, I had that "privilege", especially when this gay stalker wrote
letters to people in my private life about me.
Ninure Saunders is not a Christian just for being gay, black, stupid,
sick, stalking, or spamming her anti-Christian signuture!
I am sorry that she is so sick, but that does not make her a hero. All
she has ever shown here in the Christian newsgroup was what a false
Christian heretick she was. She could not even stand her own signature
being reposted.
No, I did not misunderstand your flat, categoric statements that:
"Today, "Jani" is talking about the contents of those e-mails in the group!"
"Jani even said that Andrew had said things IN HERE that I had told him
privately."
both of which were downright lies.
> I misunderstood you. I didn't remember accurately.
How can you "misunderstand" or "not remember accurately" something that
DIDN'T HAPPEN?
> I must wonder why you and others are so itchy to accuse people of
> lying!
>
> I am not a liar.
Oh, but you are.
"Today, "Jani" is talking about the contents of those e-mails in the group!"
"Jani even said that Andrew had said things IN HERE that I had told him
privately."
Lies.
> The liar in this dialogue is you.
If that were the case, you could produce the posts in which I am "talking
about the contents of those e-mails in the group" and saying "that Andrew
had said things IN HERE that I had told him privately". So WHERE ARE THE
POSTS, JOHN?
Jani
What threats? I asked if you wanted to discuss the correspondence you posted
to a public newsgroup. A simple yes or no will suffice.
Jani
Then ask Andrew. I doubt if he's even heard of me.
>
> "There is no 6th C church in England!" is one.
>
> nor
>>have I talked about the content of ANY private emails in the group.
>
> I don't believe you.
Then produce the posts in which I do so.
>
> And yet, there is another explanation. But you're so DAMN quick to
> accuse, I don't see any reason to bother explaining.
>
> However, for the curiosity of others, PERHAPS, Andrew told you the
> contents of our e-mail without telling you where he got the
> information.
I have had NO CORRESPONDENCE with Andrew. What part of that do you not
grasp? NO CORRESPONDENCE, email or otherwise.
>
> So WHERE
>>are these posts in which I supposedly talk about your emails to Andrew?
>
>
> see above.
WHERE ARE THE POSTS, JOHN?
>
> I'm not going to bother with you further.
>
> You are hysterical, you're a gossip, and you're a liar.
Whether you want to "bother" is irrelevant. WHERE are the posts in which I
I have had NO EMAIL from Andrew. Ever. Nor has he had any email from me. Now
produce the posts, John, or retract and apologise.
Jani
Kelly - teaching German now!!! Bwaaaaaaaahahaha!
Like yours?
Yours speak louder for the love of the world than for God's Word...
"Ya can talk, ya can talk, ya can bicker, bicker, talk, bicker, bicker,
bicker, bicker, talk, talkLook whatayatalk. whatayatalk, whatayatalk,
whatayataalk, whatayatalk? Weredayagitit? Whatayatalk? Ya can talk, ya can
talk, ya can bicker, ya can talk, ya can bicker, bicker, bicker, bicker,"
And I picture the chickens scratching in the dirt.
No wonder John claims we offer him amusement.
Ich bin dann glücklich, ein Lächeln zu einem wie Sie, die
liebe Dame zur Verfügung zu stellen.
>
> Fact was that the lesbian Ninure Saunders was the one who sent e-mails
> to my former pastor who has never written in a newsgroup and had nothing
> to do with the stuff here. They had attacked me for years, and I told
> poster Diana from ACC she should shut her fat lying mouth. Enough was
> really enough, and I still stand behind my words even today. This was
> what lesbian Saunders sent to my pastor who does not understand English
> well, nor did he know anything of the usenet and the hatefilled posters
> there - so now tell me who has harassed whom? She was the one who caused
> harm to me in my private life. When I complained about what she had
> done, they twisted it all around and claimed it was all my fault. When I
> asked Saunders how she would feel if I did that to her they claimed I
> had threatened Saunders to death and exposed her to danger because I had
> posted a mail with her a-mail address which she had posted herself
> several thousand times all over the usenet. lol
a, es scheint, dass in ihren Meinungen es richtig ist,
dass sie diese Sachen anderen machen sollten,
und noch sind sie außer Stande, sich mit ihrer eigenen
Schuld zu befassen.
>
> Well, e-mailing people in a newsgroup is nothing generally bad or a sin,
> but Irma <Kelly> Grese thinks one has to be blamed for it. But in this
> case here it was just the wrong button. I can say my point publicly and
> do not need e-mails for this purpose. I can prove that she started a
> smear campaign against me a while ago, and if she continues that just
> because I am a German, I will defend myself in the future.
Irma ist tatsächlich der richtige Name für einen so
grausam wie sie. Ich habe auch mich entdeckt
das Stoßen des falschen Knopfs auf occassion. Nichts Neues
und nichts Verbrecher dort, außer dem
vielleicht zu denjenigen, die ihre Schuld und die Chance
ignorieren würden, es für immer umzudrehen.
>
> It is sad, but some cannot understand any other language. They have left
> the base of a proper conversation among adults.
Oh, ich werde eines Tages zum Sprechen davon ohne Hilfe
eines Übersetzers fähig sein, aber für jetzt ich
setzen Sie fort, einen Übersetzer zu verwenden, bis es gut
gelernt wird. Ich bin glücklich, dass Sie im Stande sind zu
entdecken
die gute Grammatik im Posten, wie es bedeutet, dass mein
Deutsch von einer besseren Qualität sein wird.
>
> Friede sei mit Dir,
>
> ::: vera :::
>
>
Langes und Friedensleben, ebenso, Vera Ihrig sein.
Bis später
*shakes head* Ah well, my days of giving benefit-of-doubt are over.
Jani
Before you start accusing people of gossiping, Vera, let John produce these
posts in which I am supposed to have referred to private email
conversations. He can't, because there aren't any.
>
> What they cannot stand is people who really believe in God's Word... This
> attracts their hate - as foretold in the Bible to us...
>
> So all is well and obviously in God's hands.
>
> Jani is such a nut that she believes she can shut up real Christians by
> her lies and libel and malicious attacks. But I guess by and by she has
> lost all the credits she had...
Please show these 'lies and libel and malicious attacks', Vera?
>
> What a stupidity, coming here into a Christian newsgroup to attack the
> Christians all the time...
Please show these 'attacks on Christians', Vera?
Jani
SSveraSS has shown she is as much a nutter as her boytoy johnnie.
>> What they cannot stand is people who really believe in God's Word...
>> This attracts their hate - as foretold in the Bible to us...
>>
>> So all is well and obviously in God's hands.
>>
>> Jani is such a nut that she believes she can shut up real Christians
>> by her lies and libel and malicious attacks. But I guess by and by she
>> has lost all the credits she had...
>
> Please show these 'lies and libel and malicious attacks', Vera?
>
>>
>> What a stupidity, coming here into a Christian newsgroup to attack the
>> Christians all the time...
>
> Please show these 'attacks on Christians', Vera?
>
> Jani
the only one to take SSveraSS seriously is her boytoy nutterly
I love it - one of my all-time favorite show tunes (and I'm not even a
gay male ;-)
> Ich bin dann glücklich, ein Lächeln zu einem wie Sie, die
> liebe Dame zur Verfügung zu stellen.
Look - Rodney's found Babel Fish, now he and Vera the Nutsy can join
"forces" (double entendre intended) in the language of the new Third
Reich. Are you boots and luger polished and ready to go, Rodney?
> > Fact was that the lesbian Ninure Saunders was the one who sent e-mails
> > to my former pastor who has never written in a newsgroup and had nothing
> > to do with the stuff here. They had attacked me for years, and I told
> > poster Diana from ACC she should shut her fat lying mouth. Enough was
> > really enough, and I still stand behind my words even today. This was
> > what lesbian Saunders sent to my pastor who does not understand English
> > well, nor did he know anything of the usenet and the hatefilled posters
> > there - so now tell me who has harassed whom? She was the one who caused
> > harm to me in my private life. When I complained about what she had
> > done, they twisted it all around and claimed it was all my fault. When I
> > asked Saunders how she would feel if I did that to her they claimed I
> > had threatened Saunders to death and exposed her to danger because I had
> > posted a mail with her a-mail address which she had posted herself
> > several thousand times all over the usenet. lol
> a, es scheint, dass in ihren Meinungen es richtig ist,
> dass sie diese Sachen anderen machen sollten,
> und noch sind sie außer Stande, sich mit ihrer eigenen
> Schuld zu befassen.
You know, Rodney - it would help if you had a decent grasp on the
English language before you insert something in English to translate
into German - at least that way, when the Babel Fish German
translation appears, it would make better sense.
> > Well, e-mailing people in a newsgroup is nothing generally bad or a sin,
> > but Irma <Kelly> Grese thinks one has to be blamed for it. But in this
> > case here it was just the wrong button. I can say my point publicly and
> > do not need e-mails for this purpose. I can prove that she started a
> > smear campaign against me a while ago, and if she continues that just
> > because I am a German, I will defend myself in the future.
>
> Irma ist tatsächlich der richtige Name für einen so
> grausam wie sie. Ich habe auch mich entdeckt
> das Stoßen des falschen Knopfs auf occassion. Nichts Neues
> und nichts Verbrecher dort, außer dem
> vielleicht zu denjenigen, die ihre Schuld und die Chance
> ignorieren würden, es für immer umzudrehen.
Oh, Rodney, benötigen Sie wirklich dieses pathetisch Aufmerksamkeit?
> > It is sad, but some cannot understand any other language. They have left
> > the base of a proper conversation among adults.
Rodney doesn't understand any other languages, either - he barely
understands English.
> Oh, ich werde eines Tages zum Sprechen davon ohne Hilfe
> eines Übersetzers fähig sein, aber für jetzt ich
> setzen Sie fort, einen Übersetzer zu verwenden, bis es gut
> gelernt wird. Ich bin glücklich, dass Sie im Stande sind zu
> entdecken
> die gute Grammatik im Posten, wie es bedeutet, dass mein
> Deutsch von einer besseren Qualität sein wird.
Sie sind solch ein Lügner, Rodney. Sie können Englisch, was kaum
sprechen es, welches die Welt Sie Sie denken lässt kann eine
Fremdsprache wie Deutscher erlernen?
Actually, you and Vera make a much better couple than you and John
Weatherly. But the three of you together? Perfect threesome - and
depending on the day and how your individual neuroses manifest, you
can fight over who will be considered the third-wheel.
The big question is: which one will get jealous over the other one
first?
;-)
> Is Jani a gossip? Oh my, yes!
No, but you are. This very post, in fact. What's more, you sound
just like an old woman with your "Oh my, yes!".
> Every time I turn around, she's whispering and mumbling to somebody
> about me.
Need to get back on that med schedule again, John? Your delusions and
paranoia are showing themselves again.
> When she talks to me, she's "patient, condescending" like she's
> talking to a child.
She is.
> When she talks about me, she's "the guy's a LOON!"
Hmmm...I don't recall her ever saying that. I've said it about you,
though.
> IS she actually that STUPID that she doesn't understand that I read
> her comments ABOUT me to others (Mike, Kelly), BEFORE I read her
> mushy, nice comments TO ME?
Yeah, John she's that stupid < sarcastic mode off >
> Give me a break.
No.
> She's in here for the attention. She's attention starved!
Pot/Kettle/John
> Like many!
Like you and only you.
Was Sie Aufmerksamkeit in meinem Fall etikettieren
mögen, den Sie für sich selbst täglich, Sie Königin suchen
Heuchler!
>
>>> It is sad, but some cannot understand any other language. They have left
>>> the base of a proper conversation among adults.
>
> Rodney doesn't understand any other languages, either - he barely
> understands English.
>
>> Oh, ich werde eines Tages zum Sprechen davon ohne Hilfe
>> eines Übersetzers fähig sein, aber für jetzt ich
>> setzen Sie fort, einen Übersetzer zu verwenden, bis es gut
>> gelernt wird. Ich bin glücklich, dass Sie im Stande sind zu
>> entdecken
>> die gute Grammatik im Posten, wie es bedeutet, dass mein
>> Deutsch von einer besseren Qualität sein wird.
>
> Sie sind solch ein Lügner, Rodney. Sie können Englisch, was kaum
> sprechen es, welches die Welt Sie Sie denken lässt kann eine
> Fremdsprache wie Deutscher erlernen?
>
> Actually, you and Vera make a much better couple than you and John
> Weatherly. But the three of you together? Perfect threesome - and
> depending on the day and how your individual neuroses manifest, you
> can fight over who will be considered the third-wheel.
>
> The big question is: which one will get jealous over the other one
> first?
>
> ;-)
>
You're the one making all the fuss......it appears that
you are seeking more attention than you claim that I do. A
few kind words take me several days, you it appears need an
entire magazine devoted to you !
Auf Wiedersehen
> ::: good news runner ::: wrote:
>
>> What they cannot stand is people who really believe in God's Word...
>> This attracts their hate - as foretold in the Bible to us...
>
>
>Sensi:
>No one hates you cause you believe the Bible is God's word
>it's how you *abuse* the Bible to curse and hate others for
>what you don't do yourself.
>
>
Yes. And Jani is NOT a 'gossip'. VERA IS.
>
>Are you sure?
Making more false accusations again, Vera dear?
>
>You cannot shut me up. Have you not found out by now? Be careful with
>your threats - they might backfire.
You're so much like your little friend, liar-johnnie, Vera -- so I'll
just say this:
SILENCE, petulant child.
You've been told many times about that LIP.
Watch it. You're addressing not only a lady, but an adult.
Show some respect, or leave the room.
>
>>liar-johnnie, the resident ASS of Usenet, remarked rudely to Jani:
>> I'm not going to bother with you further.
>>
>> You are hysterical, you're a gossip, and you're a liar.
>
Vera 666, the resident nutter friend of liar-johnnie, the SHORT BUS,
chimed in:
>Correct!
Keep your lies to yourself, liar-vera.
Jani is not what you 'agree' with what liar-johnnie claims.
So shut your trap, madam.
>x-no-archive:permission DENIED.
>On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:17:50 +0200, " ::: good news runner :::"
><vera...@lycos.com> wrote:
> © 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
>may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>In news:g622o1$1m5b$1...@energise.enta.net,
>>Jani <ja...@jani.adsl24.co.uk> typed:
>>>> I've caught Jani in more lies than I've caught you in!
>>>
>>> You have caught me in no lies, because I haven't told any.
>>>
>>> Now, WHERE are these posts in which I supposedly talk about your
>>> emails to Andrew?
>
> If I mis-understood what you said, I'll go back, re-read it, and say
>so.
>
> I HIGHLY doubt it. And I've caught you in more than one lie. All
>you did was bluster and bluff!
>
Hey, shorts bus- you and dearie vera on the outs again?
>
>poor stupid can't do that, he can't read maps... lol
Short bus can't even read the quilting design on the toilet paper the
home provides!
Jealousy is so becoming of you Kelly, I believe it
defines perfectly what you are about........
Are you apologising for saying that I *had* communicated with him, or for
making completely unfounded accusations about your confidence being
breached?
>
> HOWEVER, that doesn't explain how you have information I don't
> remember posting. UNLESS I posted more information than I remember
> posting. Which is certainly possible.
So produce the posts, and then we'll know. You say they were posted today,
so you shouldn't have any trouble finding them.
>
> I suggest in the FUTURE, you say something like, "I believe you're
> MISTAKEN. I don't remember it that way."
Why? It's not a matter of me 'remembering it' one way or another. I know for
a fact that I didn't post anything at all discussing your email
correspondence with Andrew, since I have no idea what might have been in
that correspondence.
> You might find an email from Andrew that you forgot.
What part of "I have had NO EMAIL from Andrew. Ever" did you not grasp,
John? *You* might forget who you correspond with; I don't.
Jani