Baptist Doctrine
Ben Whaley
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John Tal
Since when it it called the 'communion table'.
This kind of nonsensical raving gives all Christians a bad name.
In fact, the only accepted name in the Bible for someone who has
believed *into* Christ is.... Christian. This Baptist stuff.... does
it mean you believe in John the Baptist?
V O J
Ben Whaley wrote in message <756rsg$3sg$1...@news-1.news.gte.net>...
>Wine at the communion table is of the devil and out of the pits of hell.
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>learn more about this join the Baptist email list and discuss TRUE Baptist
>Doctrine. http://baptist.webjump.com
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not Baptist and never was.
V O J
John Tal wrote in message <36772A99...@geocities.com>...
>Ben Whaley wrote:
>>
>> Wine at the communion table is of the devil and out of the pits of hell.
To
>> learn more about this join the Baptist email list and discuss TRUE
Baptist
>> Doctrine. http://baptist.webjump.com
>
>This kind of nonsensical raving gives all Christians a bad name.
>In fact, the only accepted name in the Bible for someone who has
>believed *into* Christ is.... Christian. This Baptist stuff.... does
>it mean you believe in John the Baptist?
There is always some pretend to be Baptist posting with their legalistic
garbage. We have a lot of fringies. Baptism and Baptists use water, so
does the tub and the toilet. Many who worship the toilet of legalism call
themselves Baptists.
Alvin
deciples ,and you can find the baptist all thru history ,every other
denomination most will be in hell with there father satan
V O J wrote in message <758j6g$2uj$1...@nnrp02.primenet.com>...
>To
>>learn more about this join the Baptist email list and discuss TRUE Baptist
>>Doctrine. http://baptist.webjump.com
>>
>>
NobleExile
>did you ever hear of 1st baptist of Jerusalem Jesus started it with the 12
>deciples ,and you can find the baptist all thru history ,every other
>denomination most will be in hell with there father satan
Hey Al,
Have you talked to your Psychatarist about Paxil or Prozac or Pamelor?
Of course if, as I suspect, you are just a plain idiot, I think they can help
with a nice group-home placement where an attendent can wipe that drool off
your chin and can be sure you change your underwear more frequently.
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- Nobile+Exile -
`Gloria in excelsis Deo et in terra pax
hominibus bonae volutatis'
ma...@superb.com
I tend to agree with what the Baptists espouse but it pains me to have
someone who has so much trouble with English grammar lead the charge.
I wouldn't want those who are not Christians to think all Baptists are
illiterate bumpkins.
No offense brother Alivin.
Mark
www.superb.com
<Alvin> wrote:
>did you ever hear of 1st baptist of Jerusalem Jesus started it with the 12
>deciples ,and you can find the baptist all thru history ,every other
>denomination most will be in hell with there father satan
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bobe
>
> did you ever hear of 1st baptist of Jerusalem Jesus started it with the 12
> deciples ,and you can find the baptist all thru history ,every other
> denomination most will be in hell with there father satan
Nope Alvin, I don't find the '1st baptist of Jerusalem' in my Authorized
Version of the King James Bible of 1611, but I do find the Pentecostals
in ACTS 2:4.
However, we pentecostals don't believe that all baptists will be in
hell, nor all methodists nor all church of Christ, nor all Catholics.
We do believe they all must be "born again" as Jesus tells us in John
3:5. We pentecostals believe that if they are born again then they are
our brothers and sisters in Christ.
How do the 1st baptists of today feel about what I have posted here?
bobe
--
"Not only does God take you out of Egypt,
He also takes Egypt out of you!"
NobleExile
> it pains me to have
>someone who has so much trouble with English grammar lead the charge.
>I wouldn't want those who are not Christians to think all Baptists are
>illiterate bumpkins.
There has been a rumour a float that Al is German and English is a secondary
language. That said, i do not unDerstand hiS continuedproblem wIth the
keyboardalvin
V O J
Baptist was started by John the Baptist.
Jesus started his church (his bride). It was in the synagogues and the
Temple. Jesus never baptized anyone. Paul only baptized a very few.
The Church in Jerusalem was almost non-existent along with the Church in
Rome by AD 80. James was the leader of the Church in Jerusalem.
Jesus sent a letter to the remaining churches of importance through John
(John the Revelator).
The word Baptist is NEW (starting with Anabaptists) as for describing a
Church.
Regarding who will go to heaven: Of all the people on this news group who
claim to be Christian you are with the Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons in
total error and false teaching and thus creating your own destiny. You will
be with them.
Alvin wrote in message <36787...@news.ghgcorp.com>...
>did you ever hear of 1st baptist of Jerusalem Jesus started it with the 12
>deciples ,and you can find the baptist all thru history ,every other
>denomination most will be in hell with there father satan
V O J
bobe wrote in message <3678A5...@swbell.net>...
>Alvin wrote:
>>
>> did you ever hear of 1st baptist of Jerusalem Jesus started it with the
12
>> deciples ,and you can find the baptist all thru history ,every other
>> denomination most will be in hell with there father satan
>
>Version of the King James Bible of 1611, but I do find the Pentecostals
>in ACTS 2:4.
>
>However, we pentecostals don't believe that all baptists will be in
>hell, nor all methodists nor all church of Christ, nor all Catholics.
>We do believe they all must be "born again" as Jesus tells us in John
>3:5. We pentecostals believe that if they are born again then they are
>our brothers and sisters in Christ.
>
>How do the 1st baptists of today feel about what I have posted here?
>
>bobe
>
>--
>
>
> "Not only does God take you out of Egypt,
> He also takes Egypt out of you!"
I agree with everything you said. I can't imagine Pentecostals in heaven
though. :>)
Alvin
ma...@superb.com wrote in message
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>
>I tend to agree with what the Baptists espouse but it pains me to have
>someone who has so much trouble with English grammar lead the charge.
>I wouldn't want those who are not Christians to think all Baptists are
>illiterate bumpkins.
>
>>did you ever hear of 1st baptist of Jerusalem Jesus started it with the 12
>>deciples ,and you can find the baptist all thru history ,every other
>>denomination most will be in hell with there father satan
>
NobleExile
>God uses the simple things to comfound the intelegent,
Quite. However, I doubt very much that this context of 'simple' equates with
bad grammar, continually terrible typing and basic illiteracy.
V O J
checker, IF THEY CARE WHAT THEY WRITE.
Weird capitalization is strange but would still be caught by a spell
checker.
Jim Browning
Ben Whaley wrote in message <756rsg$3sg$1...@news-1.news.gte.net>...
>Wine at the communion table is of the devil and out of the pits of hell.
To
>learn more about this join the Baptist email list and discuss TRUE Baptist
>Doctrine. http://baptist.webjump.com
Southern Baptists ("Baptists") do NOT have any doctrine, in the sense of an
official creed. The "1963 Baptist Faith and Message" is used as an
unofficial and optional confession or guideline. However, most Baptists in
the pews have never heard of it. This lack of an official doctrine has
resulted in a lack of adequate theological understanding on the part of many
clergy as well as most laity. We deprive ourselves of the accumulated
wisdom of prior generations; rather, each generation, 'reinvents the wheel'.
Baptist doctrine is sometimes influenced as much by denominational politics
as biblical study and theological reflection. But neither God nor Scripture
has changed.
The most serious result for Baptists is the current, widespread distortion
of the gospel and ignorance about the need for discipleship and spiritual
growth. Today, the lowest common denominator, and a misunderstanding of
that, is widely peddled as the gospel. Many Baptists say we only need to
have 'faith' and accept Jesus as our Savior. And faith is usually
understood as mere mental acceptance of the gospel. Therefore, many
Baptists say that there is no need for repentance, being born-again,
submission to Christ as personal Master and Lord. But Christ says, "If
anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and
follow me" (Mark 8:34). And, likewise, the Apostle Paul says that every
human being is a slave, either to obedience/righteousness or to self/sin.
Moreover, most Baptists have no idea whatsoever of the meaning and
significance of sanctification. But the Bible says that without holiness,
no one will see God. Sanctification is necessary for salvation (Romans
6:22-23).
How do I know so much about Southern Baptists? By what right do I make such
serious charges against them? Because I am a Southern Baptist minister,
called to deliver a prophetic message of warning about the current false
gospel which cannot save. WAKE UP! Reject those who preach and teach the
authentic gospel!
In Christ's name,
Jim Browning
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V O J
No, don't go looking to find out what you typed wrong that I should agree
with you.:>)
Jim Browning wrote in message <75bi98$k...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
Don Keyes
beleive in salvation by Grace. To say Baptist doctrine involves only mental
assent and says nothing about decipleship is obiviously untrue. I think this
must be confusion over the defintion of the term grace.
V O J
Don Keyes wrote in message <367A7912...@mediaone.net>...
> As I understand it Baptist, and most Bible believeing
denominations,
>beleive in salvation by Grace. To say Baptist doctrine involves only
mental
>assent and says nothing about decipleship is obiviously untrue. I think
this
>must be confusion over the defintion of the term grace.
Yes and sanctification is imbued (TaDa Grace)
Jim Browning
Don Keyes wrote in message <367A7912...@mediaone.net>...
> As I understand it Baptist, and most Bible believeing
denominations,
>beleive in salvation by Grace. To say Baptist doctrine involves only
mental
>assent and says nothing about decipleship is obiviously untrue. I think
this
>must be confusion over the defintion of the term grace.
Let's change the question from the Baptist understanding to your own
viewpoint. What is YOUR understanding of the requirements for salvation?
If somebody wants to be saved and asks you how, what would you tell them?
In Christ's name,
Jim Browning
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>Jim Browning wrote:
>
>> Ben Whaley wrote in message <756rsg$3sg$1...@news-1.news.gte.net>...
>><snip>
V O J
Jim Browning wrote in message <75ejm3$1...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>
>Don Keyes wrote in message <367A7912...@mediaone.net>...
>> As I understand it Baptist, and most Bible believeing
>denominations,
>>beleive in salvation by Grace. To say Baptist doctrine involves only
>mental
>>assent and says nothing about decipleship is obiviously untrue. I think
>this
>>must be confusion over the defintion of the term grace.
>
>Let's change the question from the Baptist understanding to your own
>viewpoint. What is YOUR understanding of the requirements for salvation?
>If somebody wants to be saved and asks you how, what would you tell them?
>
>In Christ's name,
>Jim Browning
>
Jesus said we must be born again.
If the person asks there is a high probabilty that the person has already
been convicted by the Holy Spirit.
The person usually needs only to not reject.
Discipleship is showing the person what their new life and love is all
about.
Arthur Rivet
be the norm... HOWEVER- Christ says..AS OFTEN AS YOU MEET DO THIS IN
REMEMBERANCE OF ME.....Who has changed this doctrine, Christ's doctrine....Man
has, rightiousChristians have changed HIS word because they say that to have
communion more often will not make it as special!!! What right have these
people, our leaders over the years, to do that...NONE......What else have they
changed, even sooooo subtly over the years to make the believers, believe in
"their" way???....In what other ways have they BRAINWASHED us
believers....?????
Arthur
Jim Browning
GOSPEL by which we must be saved. See: "Baptist GOSPEL? False?
In Christ's name,
Jim Browning
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