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Re: To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been granted. Limited Atonement

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bob young

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Sep 23, 2008, 2:30:02 AM9/23/08
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old man joe wrote:

> in the context of Matthew 13:1-23 Jesus presents the long remembered
> parable of the sower. His disciples come to Him and ask... " Why do
> You speak to them in parables? "
>
> and then comes one of most wonderful passages in Scripture which
> compares to what has been called the Perseverance of the Saints, with
> the Son of God's reply... " To you it has been granted to know the
> mysteries of the kingdom of heaven. "

"Eeeeerm Excuse me, but, why did a god talk to people back then,
with the god's exact phrase recorded
but does not talk today with phrases recorded or otherwise.........?"

A clear cut explanation will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your kindness.

bob

>
>
> the unfathomable riches of the Word of God warms the heart of every
> true believer as he discover's, through the indwelling Holy Spirit,
> " what is the breadth and length and height and depth, and to know
> the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled
> up to all the fulness of God. " Ro. 3:14-19
>
> Praise be to our Heavenly Father to grace us with such understanding
> " to know the love of Christ " towards us, who believe by the will of
> God. Jn. 1:12,13; Acts 13:48.
>
> but the Savior goes on to say... " but to them it has not been
> granted, " and explains why it has not been granted in vs. 13-15.
>
> this being the case; this being the unchangeable purpose of God
> towards His creation, we are full of thankfulness that we were chosen
> out of the world by the Almighty's free grace and love from our
> rebellion against Him. Eph. 2:1-12
>
> yet, God has so purposed that not all shall be so chosen by Him.
> Jn. 10:11 cp. Jn. 10:26.
>
> how is it then that the Universalists teach that Christ died for
> everyone all the while the Holy Scriptures say to the contrary ?
>
> that God makes a wide and clear distinction between the saved and
> the lost throughout all of Scripture which these do not see nor
> acknowledge ?
>
> these are clearly the proponents of the devils gospel and their
> glamorous words appeal only to " itching ears. " seeing that the
> foundation of their gospel speaks of a Savior who failed at Calvary...
> of an impotent God who sent His only Begotten Son to procure salvation
> for everyone yet the pardon goes only to those who've made some
> decision of their own ' free ' will... a salvation for the smart
> only... placing conditions on free grace.
>
> these blaspheme the very God they pretend to worship with a belief
> system which is designed to give man the glory for his good work of
> self-redemption... they show their repulsion for God this way.
>
> ********************************************************************************
>
> " all who hate Me love death. " Pv. 8:38b
>
>

Andrew

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Sep 23, 2008, 5:45:34 PM9/23/08
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On 2008-09-23 07:30:02 +0100, bob young <alasp...@netvigator.com> said:

> old man joe wrote:
>
>> in the context of Matthew 13:1-23 Jesus presents the long remembered
>> parable of the sower. His disciples come to Him and ask... " Why do
>> You speak to them in parables? "
>>
>> and then comes one of most wonderful passages in Scripture which
>> compares to what has been called the Perseverance of the Saints, with
>> the Son of God's reply... " To you it has been granted to know the
>> mysteries of the kingdom of heaven. "
>
> "Eeeeerm Excuse me, but, why did a god talk to people back then,
> with the god's exact phrase recorded
> but does not talk today with phrases recorded or otherwise.........?"
>
> A clear cut explanation will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you for your kindness.
>
> bob

Don't hold your breath Bob. OMJ is a drive-by poster. He doesn't engage
in discussion if he reads replies at all. I killfiled him a while back
because I don't think there's any point reading stuff from such people.

Andrew

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Sep 23, 2008, 8:33:52 PM9/23/08
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"Andrew" <thec...@macunlimited.net> wrote in message news:2008092322453411272-thecroft@macunlimitednet...

Hi Andrew. Yes, most of us have OMJ killfiled for the above reasons.

I am writing this to apologize for any misunderstanding in that we
both have the same first name, and occasionally post on the same
NG's. Thank you. My name is Andrew H*****.


"Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>

Andrew

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Sep 24, 2008, 5:35:05 PM9/24/08
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No problem. Most folk, I find, are smart enough to read the whole name
in posts. Similarly, if my use of Andrew (Andrew Morton, by the way),
has caused you problems, I'm sorry.

bob young

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Oct 3, 2008, 1:31:06 AM10/3/08
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Andrew wrote:

Noted - thanks


bob young

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Oct 3, 2008, 1:33:03 AM10/3/08
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Andrew wrote:

"Hey ye canna harrrdly be a Scot we' a name like that !


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