Does the world hate you? If not, why not?
Donna Kupp
Jesus said this to his disciples:
"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated
you. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but
because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the
world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I
said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have
persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my
saying, they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do
unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent
me. John 15:18-21
This reward is promised to those who are hated for Christ's sake:
"Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall
separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast
out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. Rejoice ye in that
day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven:
for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets." Luke
6:22-23
According to John, it is easy to discern the children of God and the
children of the devil:
"In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the
devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he
that loveth not his brother. For this is the message that ye heard
from the beginning, that we should love one another. Not as Cain,
who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore
slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's
righteous. Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you." 1 John
3:10-13
Donna Kupp
http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/show.php?i=630302&cat=0
The Seven Deadly Deceptions Of Counterfeit Christianity
http://www.freetruth.info
James Fenimore
Christians.
Thus, we have nearly half the world's population -- 3 billion --
socially and psychologically enslaved by and in the two most
laughable, hypocritical, hate-filled, racist, and war-loving mass-
cults -- at each others' throats in an insoluble religious war!
Forever, it would seem.
Randy ®
Diana <shech...@reborn.com> wrote:
> Yes and Amen !!! Thanks Donna for your post. It is good to see you.
She teaches salvation through works. God forbid any false-gospel
preaching heretic should come in here without your endorsement:
2 John 1:9-11 NASB
(9) Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching
of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching,
he has both the Father and the Son.
(10) If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do
not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting;
(11) for the one who gives him a greeting participates in his
evil deeds.
2Jn 1:10
John instructs the believers not to show hospitality to false
teachers. They were to do nothing that would encourage the
heretics in their propagation of falsehoods. In addition, if
believers were to invite them in, such action would show that
they were approving of what the false teachers said and did.
...John adds that a person who supports a false teacher in any
way shares in the teacher's evil work.
False teaching is serious business, and we dare not overlook it.
It is so serious that John wrote this letter to warn against it.
Because our world has so many false teachings, we might be
tempted to take many of them lightly. Instead, we should realize
the dangers they pose and actively refuse to give heresies any
foothold.
(Life Application Study Bible)
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Have you heard Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him
from the dead? Did you know God saves you from hell and
gives you eternal life through faith in this finished work alone,
not your merits (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess.
1:8-9)? This is so man cannot boast, and God alone gets the
glory (Eph. 2:8-9).
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I
> 2 John 1:9-11 NASB
...
> 2Jn 1:10
Written 90 -120 CE when the apostle John was dead. See
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/2john.html
--
The most pronounced characteristics [of fundamentalists] are the following:
(a) a very strong emphasis on the inerrancy of the Bible, the absence from
it of any sort of error;
(b) a strong hostility to modern theology and to the methods, results and
implications of modern critical study of the Bible;
(c) an assurance that those who do not share their religious viewpoint are
not really 'true Christians' at all.
- James Barr "Fundamentalism" (SCM Press:1977) p.1
Donna Kupp
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>
> "Donna Kupp" <dk...@charter.net> wrote in message
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Hello Diana,
It is good to see you, too. I hope that you and your family are fine.
Donna
::: Jesus is LORD :::
God: Why did you not listen to what I said?
Diana: Where?
God: I gave you a complete big book to read. Why did you not even read
it?
Diana: Which book?
God: You called it "The Bible".
Diana: I cannot remember that you said I was to read it.
God: But you rejected doing my will!
Diana: Oh, can you prove that?
God: Yes! It is a fact, and I caught you in the act defending my enemies
publicly again and again!
Diana: Why do you hate me so much? Whine, whine whine...
God: Stop it, you were caught in the act! So why did you defend all
those hereticks in public and attacked my people all the time while they
just wanted to tell you that this was not my will at all, and you were
informed about it 100 times or more.
Diana: I am sorry you do not try to understand me. I have health
problems that cause me to have short term memory loss. Please try to
understand that it is no act. Have a beautiful day.
God [still looking for her name in the Book of Life]: ...
Diana shech...@reborn.com wrote in 7mc1ugF...@mid.individual.net
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
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>
>
> "Randy �" <pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Oa-dncF7x9g4B53W...@giganews.com...
>> On Sun, 11/15/09, at 5:21:03PM,
>> Diana <shech...@reborn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes and Amen !!! Thanks Donna for your post. It is good to see you.
>>
>>
>> She teaches salvation through works. God forbid any false-gospel
>> preaching heretic should come in here without your endorsement:
>>
>
> Really? What works has Donna tried to teach salvation through? I have
> only seen her posts saying that all need to obey what God has said.
> Just another one of your smear campaigns Randy. Oh mighty Randy the
> omniscient one. LOL. Your claims against Donna are unfounded. No shoo
> go away.
In My Fathers House
wrote:
> *** A TRIAL ***
>
> God: Why did you not listen to what I said?
>
> Diana: Where?
So you get to slander both Diana ~and~ God?
Science Stunted Bonsai Brain
> > Yes and Amen !!! Thanks Donna for your post. It is good to see you.
>
> She teaches salvation through works. God forbid any false-gospel
> preaching heretic should come in here without your endorsement:
I don't see why a doctrine of "salvation through works" is any worse
than one of "salvation without works".
If salvation is a gift, and not under your control, then no teaching
matters anyway.
willingone
> *** A TRIAL ***
So now you presume to speak for God, to know His mind?
Does your Blasphemy ever end
--
Hit and Run....It's Fun
r m
wrote:
> *** A TRIAL ***
>
> God: Why did you not listen to what I said?
>
> Diana: Where?
>
> God: I gave you a complete big book to read. Why did you not even read
> it?
>
> Diana: Which book?
>
> God: You called it "The Bible".
>
> Diana: I cannot remember that you said I was to read it.
>
> God: But you rejected doing my will!
>
> Diana: Oh, can you prove that?
>
> God: Yes! It is a fact, and I caught you in the act defending my enemies
> publicly again and again!
>
> Diana: Why do you hate me so much? Whine, whine whine...
>
> God: Stop it, you were caught in the act! So why did you defend all
> those hereticks in public and attacked my people all the time while they
> just wanted to tell you that this was not my will at all, and you were
> informed about it 100 times or more.
>
> Diana: I am sorry you do not try to understand me. I have health
> problems that cause me to have short term memory loss. Please try to
> understand that it is no act. Have a beautiful day.
>
> God [still looking for her name in the Book of Life]: ...
That trial [sic] is flawed if Bible-centricity is elevated above other
weighty matters.
"He has told you, O man, what is good;
and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice,
and to love kindness,
and to walk humbly with your God? " - Mic 6:8 .
Cheers.
>
> Diana shechin...@reborn.com wrote in 7mc1ugF3hltd...@mid.individual.net
>
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> > "Randy ®" <pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:Oa-dncF7x9g4B53W...@giganews.com...
> >> On Sun, 11/15/09, at 5:21:03PM,
I
> *** A TRIAL ***
Lucky YOU aren't the judge!
~~~~
A major function of fundamentalist religion is to bolster deeply insecure
and fearful people. This is done by justifying a way of life with all of its
defining prejudices. It thereby provides an appropriate and legitimate
outlet for one's anger. The authority of an inerrant Bible that can be
readily quoted to buttress this point of view becomes an essential
ingredient to such a life. When that Bible is challenged, or relativized,
the resulting anger proves the point categorically. [Bishop John Shelby
Spong, Rescuing the Bible From Fundamentalism, (San Fransisco: Harper
Collins, 1991), p. 5.]
r m
> >" ::: Jesus is LORD :::" Vera Six <jesus-is-l...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> >> *** A TRIAL ***
>
> > Lucky YOU aren't the judge!
>
> am sure when she talks to Paul he told her she was. That or God died and left her in charge to
> judge others.
It is said that those with spiritual discernment may judge "... the
natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for
they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because
they are spiritually discerned: the spiritual person judges all
things, but is himself to be judged by no one. " - 1Co 2:14-15.
And license to judge is granted by 1Co 6:2 "... do you not know that
the saints will judge the world? ... "
Cheers.
I
> It is said that those with spiritual discernment may judge
Since Vera Six and Randy Young only have "Faulty Grizian Discernment"
obviously it doesn't apply to them.
r m
>
> news:ad138bba-756d-4bc3...@x6g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 16, 6:27 pm, "Diana" <shechin...@reborn.com> wrote:
>
> > X-No-Archive: Yes
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> > "I" <me@home000000000000545> wrote in messagenews:4b00fdfc$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > >" ::: Jesus is LORD :::" Vera Six <jesus-is-l...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> > >> *** A TRIAL ***
>
> > > Lucky YOU aren't the judge!
>
> > She said she was God's right hand so I think that she thinks her job is to judge. After all I
> > am sure when she talks to Paul he told her she was. That or God died and left her in charge
> > to
> > judge others.
>
> It is said that those with spiritual discernment may judge "... the
> natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for
> they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because
> they are spiritually discerned: the spiritual person judges all
> things, but is himself to be judged by no one. " - 1Co 2:14-15.
>
> And license to judge is granted by 1Co 6:2 "... do you not know that
> the saints will judge the world? ... "
>
> Cheers.
>
Aye. To-be-sure:To-b-sure :-)
> ... not Vera however I am sure she will delight in what you have posted
> because afterall she is God's right hand and His appointed judge.
Jesus said -
" ... be merciful, even as your Father is merciful;
judge not, and you will not be judged;
condemn not, and you will not be condemned;
forgive, and you will be forgiven ... " - Luke 6:36-37.
Cheers.
Randy ®
In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> So you get to slander both Diana ~and~ God?
So you're slandering God's word in Galatians 1:8-9 that warns
against those who proclaim merit based gospels?
::: Jesus is LORD :::
On Wednesday, September 09, 2009 4:39 PM [GMT+1=CET],
Diana <shech...@reborn.com> wrote:
> She only proved she is NOT a Christian that she has NOT given up her
> witchcraft and her magic. Now everyone knows for sure without having
> to just think or guess it.
On Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:54 PM [GMT+1=CET],
Diana <shech...@reborn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> No! You _do_ share the evil work of those you choose to
>>> _"welcome"_ here, and they will be the first to tell you they
>>> are promoting different doctrines of Christ and different
>>
>>
>> Sensi:
>> There was *no evil work.* Why do you create one when there wasn't
>> one to begin with?
>
> Because he is being led by the devil.
There Diana goes, calling Randy someone led by the devil, while he was
acting on authority of the Highest God there is. Above called Fred a
liar for doing the same.
Blaspheming the Spirit is calling Jesus or His people satanic in order
to hinder the Gospel be preached or miracles be done by the Holy Spirit,
who is acting through His elected.
Example:
Matt <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
0lpq55h8uie97sf2o...@4ax.com
> More of Vera 666 later
Calling a Christian things like that over six year while trying to do
the job as a Christian is blaspheming the Spirit:
This is a little older (June 8th, 2007) since it was the first I got
while searching, but the archives are full of posts like that:
Matt. <trdell1234@......gmail.com > wrote in
9qkh63hgmaqptrppt...@4ax.com
> And this from a so called former Satanic Witch named Vera.
>
> I Serve Christ and have always done so. She can't say the same.
>
> Satan is Vera. Look at her words for the last few years. they are
> Satans words using scripture, twisted to satans wishes.
>
> Matt
There above Matt called me Satan, and not for anything I might have done
to him personally, no, but FOR MY USING SCRIPTURE. HE CALLED THEM
SATAN'S WORDS AND REJECTED THE SPIRIT SPEAKING THROUGH ME WHILE POSTING
THE SCRIPTURES.
Calling a Christian Satan while the Spirit is trying to preach the
Gospel through him or her while reaching out to the unbelievers by the
USE OF GOD'S WORD is not.
Calling me a "cyber slut" can be forgiven, but publicly calling a
Christian "a Satanic Bitch" or using witchcraft in a Christian newsgroup
while preaching God's Word cannot.
"...for a tree is known by its fruit. .For out of the abundance of the
heart the mouth speaks" (Matthew 12:33-34, NKJV)
"And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem said, 'He has Beelzebub,'
and, 'By the ruler of the demons He casts out demons.' .'Assuredly, I
[Jesus] say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and
whatever blasphemies they may utter; but he who blasphemes against the
Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal
condemnation;' because they said, 'He has an unclean spirit'" Mark
3:22-30, NKJV
"Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men,
but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone
who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but
whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him,
either in this age or in the age to come" (NKJV, emphasis added).
Matthew 12:31-32, NKJV
In this context Jesus was doing miracles, but the Pharisees rejected his
clear witness of the Holy Spirit and attributes what Jesus was doing to
Satan.
When Christians preach the Gospel, it is the Holy Spirit in action,
reaching out to the lost. Torpedoing that over years by calling them
satanic, and calling good evil and vice versa they blaspheme the Spirit.
They are not attacking me personally, but God's Word (see above), the
Holy Spirit and those whom He has chosen to be His messengers.
My recommendation:
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not
into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God
speed is partaker of his evil deeds. (2 John 1:10-11 KJV)
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> "In My Fathers House" <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> ---))) That is Vera's every intention.
::: Jesus is LORD :::
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>>> *** A TRIAL ***
>>
>> Lucky YOU aren't the judge!
>>
>>
> is to judge. After all I am sure when she talks to Paul he told her
> she was. That or God died and left her in charge to judge others.
Wanna cookie?
Randy ®
Diana <shech...@reborn.com> wrote:
>> > She teaches salvation through works. God forbid any false-gospel preaching heretic should
>> > come in here without your endorsement:
>> >
> Really? What works has Donna tried to teach salvation through?
I don't believe you are unaware of her false gospel, given she
has been advertising it in here for years, and has been roundly
rebuked on many occasions, by many who hold the same faith you
_claim_ to believe.
It took five years of directly quoting Glenn attacking the deity
of Christ before you finally stopped defending and endorsing that
heretic. I don't believe you're that much of an idiot. You
apparently intentionally support anyone who attacks the very core
of the Christian faith, and therefore share responsibility for
his evil work (2 John 1).
2 John 1:9-11 NASB
(9) Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching
of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching,
he has both the Father and the Son.
(10) If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do
not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting;
(11) for the one who gives him a greeting participates in his
evil deeds.
2Jn 1:10
John instructs the believers not to show hospitality to false
teachers. They were to do nothing that would encourage the
heretics in their propagation of falsehoods. In addition, if
believers were to invite them in, such action would show that
they were approving of what the false teachers said and did.
...John adds that a person who supports a false teacher in any
way shares in the teacher's evil work.
False teaching is serious business, and we dare not overlook it.
It is so serious that John wrote this letter to warn against it.
Because our world has so many false teachings, we might be
tempted to take many of them lightly. Instead, we should realize
the dangers they pose and actively refuse to give heresies any
foothold.
(Life Application Study Bible)
Donna Kupp attacking the unconditional nature of God's love:
http://www.freetruth.info/THE%20SEVEN%20DECEPTIONS/essay4.htm
God's word:
Romans 8:30 NIV
(30) And those he predestined, he also called; those he called,
he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.
Romans 8:38-39 NIV
(38) For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither
angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any
powers,
(39) neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all
creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that
is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Donna Kupp claiming you can't be saved if you committ willful
sin, and that real christians don't sin at all:
http://www.freetruth.info/THE%20SEVEN%20DECEPTIONS/essay3.htm
God's word:
1 John 1:8 NIV
(8) If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the
truth is not in us.
Donna Kupp claiming you have to keep the Sabbath:
http://www.freetruth.info/THE%20SEVEN%20DECEPTIONS/essay7.htm
God's word:
Colossians 2:16-17 NIV
(16) Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or
drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon
celebration or a Sabbath day.
(17) These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the
reality, however, is found in Christ.
Galatians 3:6-14 NIV
(6) Consider Abraham: "He believed God, and it was credited to
him as righteousness."
(7) Understand, then, that those who believe are children of
Abraham.
(8) The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by
faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: "All
nations will be blessed through you."
(9) So those who have faith are blessed along with Abraham, the
man of faith.
(10) All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it
is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do
everything written in the Book of the Law."
(11) Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because,
"The righteous will live by faith."
(12) The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man
who does these things will live by them."
(13) Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a
curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung
on a tree."
(14) He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham
might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith
we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
Galatians 5:4-12 NIV
(4) You who are trying to be justified by law have been
alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.
(5) But by faith we eagerly await through the Spirit the
righteousness for which we hope.
(6) For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision
has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing
itself through love.
(7) You were running a good race. Who cut in on you and kept you
from obeying the truth?
(8) That kind of persuasion does not come from the one who calls
you.
(9) "A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough."
(10) I am confident in the Lord that you will take no other
view. The one who is throwing you into confusion will pay the
penalty, whoever he may be.
(11) Brothers, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I
still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has
been abolished.
(12) As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way
and emasculate themselves!
Galatians 1:8-9 NIV
(8) But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a
gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be
eternally condemned!
(9) As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is
preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him
be eternally condemned!
Donna Kupp misinterpreting the law, confusing the evidence of
saving faith with a term of salvation, and substituting a single
verse snippet from James 2:24 for the gospel:
On 4 Dec 2000 05:50:58 GMT
In Group "soc.religion.christian"
Article Message-ID: <90fbc2$fh6$3...@newsmonger.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Re: Who Is The Heretic Of Christianity?
"Donna Kupp" <dk...@harborside.com> wrote:
*****************************************************************
"We are saved by grace alone through
faith alone" is just a slogan that has no scriptural basis.
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God's word:
See Galatians above
Galatians 3:15-29 NIV
(15) Brothers, let me take an example from everyday life. Just
as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been
duly established, so it is in this case.
(16) The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The
Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but
"and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ.
(17) What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later,
does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and
thus do away with the promise.
(18) For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no
longer depends on a promise; but God in his grace gave it to
Abraham through a promise.
(19) What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added
because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise
referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a
mediator.
(20) A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but
God is one.
(21) Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God?
Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart
life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law.
(22) But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a
prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through
faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.
(23) Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law,
locked up until faith should be revealed.
(24) So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we
might be justified by faith.
(25) Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the
supervision of the law.
(26) You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus,
(27) for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed
yourselves with Christ.
(28) There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor
female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
(29) If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and
heirs according to the promise.
Romans 4:1-25 NASB
(1) What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather
according to the flesh, has found?
(2) For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to
boast about, but not before God.
(3) For what does the Scripture say? "ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND
IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS."
(4) Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a
favor, but as what is due.
(5) But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who
justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness,
(6) just as David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom
God credits righteousness apart from works:
(7) "BLESSED ARE THOSE WHOSE LAWLESS DEEDS HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN,
AND WHOSE SINS HAVE BEEN COVERED.
(8) "BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT."
(9) Is this blessing then on the circumcised, or on the
uncircumcised also? For we say, "FAITH WAS CREDITED TO ABRAHAM AS
RIGHTEOUSNESS."
(10) How then was it credited? While he was circumcised, or
uncircumcised? Not while circumcised, but while uncircumcised;
(11) and he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the
righteousness of the faith which he had while uncircumcised, so
that he might be the father of all who believe without being
circumcised,
that righteousness might be credited to them,
(12) and the father of circumcision to those who not only are of
the circumcision, but who also follow in the steps of the faith
of our father Abraham which he had while uncircumcised.
(13) For the promise to Abraham or to his descendants that he
would be heir of the world was not through the Law, but through
the righteousness of faith.
(14) For if those who are of the Law are heirs, faith is made
void and the promise is nullified;
(15) for the Law brings about wrath, but where there is no law,
there also is no violation.
(16) For this reason it is by faith, in order that it may be in
accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to
all the descendants, not only to those who are of the Law, but
also to
those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all,
(17) (as it is written, "A FATHER OF MANY NATIONS HAVE I MADE
YOU") in the presence of Him whom he believed, even God, who
gives life to the dead and calls into being that which does not
exist.
(18) In hope against hope he believed, so that he might become a
father of many nations according to that which had been spoken,
"SO SHALL YOUR DESCENDANTS BE."
(19) Without becoming weak in faith he contemplated his own
body, now as good as dead since he was about a hundred years old,
and the deadness of Sarah's womb;
(20) yet, with respect to the promise of God, he did not waver
in unbelief but grew strong in faith, giving glory to God,
(21) and being fully assured that what God had promised, He was
able also to perform.
(22) Therefore IT WAS ALSO CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.
(23) Now not for his sake only was it written that it was
credited to him,
(24) but for our sake also, to whom it will be credited, as
those who believe in Him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,
(25) He who was delivered over because of our transgressions,
and was raised because of our justification.
The context of James is referring to someone who _claims_ to have
faith, but who then uses that as a license to live as he pleases.
It's not talking about how to become justified with God, but
how to demonstrate you are truly righteous to those whom you
profess your faith. Good works are the evidence that proves to
men we already are righteous with God, not a means by which we
achieve righeousness with God on our own.
Donna ignores and/or twists anything found in Galatians,
Ephesians, Romans, or any other body of doctrine that shows
salvation by grace, through faith, not works, then makes a
misrepresentation of James 2:24 the core of her false gospel.
In My Fathers House
>
> > So you get to slander both Diana ~and~ God?
>
> So you're slandering God's word in Galatians 1:8-9 that warns
> against those who proclaim merit based gospels?
Nope the content of those verses have nothing to do with what I said.
Say, when did Paul become God? Is that a Quadrinity with God the
Father, God the Son, God the Spirit and God Paul?
Behold the word of God: "This word is from Paul"
....Matt....
<jesus-...@lycos.com> wrote:
Snipped Vera's use od deceptive practices.
Hi Diana glad to see your here.
God Bless
Matt
....Matt....
<jesus-...@lycos.com> wrote:
>Speaking of slander...
>
>On Wednesday, September 09, 2009 4:39 PM [GMT+1=CET],
>Diana <shech...@reborn.com> wrote:
>> She only proved she is NOT a Christian that she has NOT given up her
>> witchcraft and her magic. Now everyone knows for sure without having
>> to just think or guess it.
>
>
>On Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:54 PM [GMT+1=CET],
>Diana <shech...@reborn.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No! You _do_ share the evil work of those you choose to
>>>> _"welcome"_ here, and they will be the first to tell you they
>>>> are promoting different doctrines of Christ and different
>>>
>>>
>>> Sensi:
>>> There was *no evil work.* Why do you create one when there wasn't
>>> one to begin with?
>>
>> Because he is being led by the devil.
>
>
>There Diana goes, calling Randy someone led by the devil, while he was
>acting on authority of the Highest God there is. Above called Fred a
>liar for doing the same.
>
>Blaspheming the Spirit is calling Jesus or His people satanic in order
>to hinder the Gospel be preached or miracles be done by the Holy Spirit,
>who is acting through His elected.
>
>Example:
LOL Vera you and Fred call people satan more than anyone I know. You
fruits prove you to be false teachers.
On with Vera's groups spam and lies in the name of the Holy Spirit.
Sad so sad
God Bless You and help you Vera Six
Matt
Randy ®
In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 4:41 am, Randy �<pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Sun, 11/15/09, at 11:36:20PM,
>> > In My Fathers House<hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>>> > > So you get to slander both Diana ~and~ God?
>> >
>> > So you're slandering God's word in Galatians 1:8-9 that warns
>> > against those who proclaim merit based gospels?
> Nope the content of those verses have nothing to do with what I said.
Right off the bat, let's get to the fact you've already admitted
you employ no authoritative standard at in determining what is
truth and error:
On Tue, 10/13/09, at 1:32:24PM,
In Group: alt.christnet.christianlife
Article:
<aa66a701-309d-4910...@w37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Since you've admitted you perceive reality
> through your five senses, and that this is "subjective", all you
> can actually claim is that you are using your perception of
> reality to measure whether things are true or false. Thus you
> have no authoritative standard at all.
Which makes me just like you.
*****************************************************************
So why you would then act as if your claims carry any weight at
all, especially against what the Bible teaches, would only
suggest to me that you are suffering from delusional, cultic
arrogance.
Secondly, Galatians 1:8-9 directly states that may anyone who
proclaims any other gospel than the one the Galatians had
received, be "eternally condemned". The context of Galatians
goes on to clearly define the gospel as one of justification
through faith in Christ, not the Law, or any other man-merited
system, and to anathematize any attempt to promote any other
gospel.
Claiming that to defend that gospel, amounts to slandering God
and man, is a direct contradiction to what God's word states,
which is to make God out to be a liar, as well as the person who
accurately proclaimed what God said. Calling God and those who
defend what He said liars and slanderers, is itself libel.
That you would then try to promote doubt this passage is God's
word, or challenge someone to prove it is, only confirms to
anyone who believes the Bible is God's word, that you are the one
who is libeling God and any man who faithfully proclaims and
defends what God said. Paul said he got the gospel by direct
revelation from Jesus Christ. Luke confirmed Paul got this
gospel and ministry by direct revelation of Jesus Christ, and
cited "eyewitnesses", including the church leaders who
acknowledged the fruit of the Spirit among the Gentiles, through
the gospel Paul preached and taught.
Jesus said the Holy Spirit would guide His disciples into "all
truth", and bring all things about Him to their remembrance (John
14 - 16). Jesus said any man can know whether a doctrine comes
from God, by experience with the actual condition of doing God's
will (John 7:17-18). Many have, and agree the Bible is God's
word, based on objective experience with this condition. Paul
claimed to be inspired by God (1 Corinthians 2), and to speak
what the Spirit was making known to him. Paul said all
"Scripture" is God breathed, and Peter confirmed Paul's writings
are "Scripture" (2 Peter).
And what is House's claim about the Bible?
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:14:46 -0800 (PST),
In alt.christnet.christianlife,
Article
<5cfb13af-4f84-43b2...@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
"In My Fathers House" <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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However the Bible does make God out to be a dishonest and
or psycho who is messing with us and cannot be trusted...
If God were really like that then we are doomed anyway.
*****************************************************************
He claims God would have to be evil if the Bible were His word.
How he can then think that does not expose _him_ as the one who
is libeling God and those who defend what God said, to anyone who
knows the Bible is God's word, is beyond me, unless he suffers
from delusional arrogance.
No, it is not possible that House represents the "God" we know
about from the Bible, while he systematically libels that God,
constantly trying to undermine, promote doubt about, and
discredit His word, the Bible.
You do not represent the God we are proclaiming faith in, based
on what His word, the Bible says. You openly attack that God,
when you claim His word would make Him out to be evil, deny it is
God's word, insist it is not God's word, etc.
Thirdly, you don't even claim to believe in any God, but say, "if
there is a God", or "God (if any)", etc. What delusion causes
you to then claim you believe in "God", or that you are a
"Christian" who follows the Christ we know about from the Bible,
while you insist the God of the Bible would have to be evil if
the Bible were his word and while you say, "if there is a God",
etc., is beyond me, unless you suffer from delusional, cultic
arrogance.
Fourthly, Christians don't live by faith in _your_ doubt. The
idea they would live by faith in the doubt of some black-hole,
agnostic bastard who claims to be a christian, seems to require
delusional faith in cultic arrogance.
Fifthly, you have _not_ demonstrated anything from the text of
the Bible, one way or the other, and you've already insisted God
would have to be evil if the Bible were his word. That you can
boldly lie and claim that's "not" you attacking the Bible just
convinces me you are a hard-core, delusional liar.
> Say, when did Paul become God? Is that a Quadrinity with God the
> Father, God the Son, God the Spirit and God Paul?
Do you think, in a Christian group, you are dealing with people
who do not believe the Bible is God's inspired word, given
through men? How would you not understand that making claims
like this clearly demonstrates to anyone who believes the Bible
to be the inspired word of God, that you are the one libeling
God, His word, and those who accurately defend what He said in
the Bible?
Are you claiming there is no inspired word of God, or that this
process does not involve human writers? If so, how then are you
not trying to exalt your subjective perception of reality, above
the Bible when you make claims like this?
> Behold the word of God: "This word is from Paul"
See above. Quit pretending to be a christian, while you attack
the source of the Christian faith, which is the word of God,
which is the Bible. You can't know, believe in, and follow the
Christ of the Bible, while systematically attacking the Bible as
being God's word, and failing to demonstrate what you claim
actually is the word of God.
Paul said he got the gospel by direct revelation from Jesus
Christ. Luke confirmed Paul got this gospel and ministry by
direct revelation of Jesus Christ, and cited "eyewitnesses",
including the church leaders who acknowledged the fruit of the
Spirit among the Gentiles, through the gospel Paul preached and
taught.
Jesus said the Holy Spirit would guide His disciples into "all
truth", and bring all things about Him to their remembrance (John
14 - 16). Jesus said any man can know whether a doctrine comes
from God, by experience with the actual condition of doing God's
will (John 7:17-18). Many have, and agree the Bible is God's
word, based on objective experience with this condition. Paul
claimed to be inspired by God (1 Corinthians 2), and to speak
what the Spirit was making known to him. Paul said all
"Scripture" is God breathed, and Peter confirmed Paul's writings
are "Scripture" (2 Peter).
Meanwhile, your doubt and denial proves nothing, and you have
admitted your subjective perception of reality is no
authoritative basis for anything:
Question: What is House's standard for measuring whether
something is true?
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:54:09 -0700 (PDT),
In newsgroup "alt.bible",
Article
<b16dff63-bb17-49dc...@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
"Dr. House" <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On Jun 30, 8:27 pm, Randy � <pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
[]
> By what standard of measure?
Reality.
**************************************************************
Answer: "Reality"
Question: How do you know what reality is?
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:50:23 -0700 (PDT),
In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article
<8eb5021c-4029-4886...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Subject: Re: Dr. House's "Reality"
"Dr. House" <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Reality is all around you. Your five senses are how you perceive it.
**************************************************************
Answer: You "perceive it" with "your five senses".
Subjective:
"characteristic of or belonging to reality as perceived...
i.e. "through the senses..."
(http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subjective,
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phenomenal)
House: "Yes our perception of reality is subjective."
(<a358642e-89a0-408e...@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>)
On Tue, 10/13/09, at 12:57:00AM,
In Group: alt.christnet.christianlife
Article:
<5f01390c-2518-4639...@z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com>
In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> How do you know you are measuring things by "reality", rather
> than just your subjective perception of it?
When I discover my perception is wrong I adjust.
*****************************************************************
(a.k.a. "circular reasoning" by House)
....Matt....
wrote:
>X-No-Archive: Yes
>
>
>
>
>"r m" <roy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>On Nov 16, 6:27 pm, "Diana" <shechin...@reborn.com> wrote:
>> X-No-Archive: Yes
>>
>> "I" <me@home000000000000545> wrote in messagenews:4b00fdfc$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> >" ::: Jesus is LORD :::" Vera Six <jesus-is-l...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> *** A TRIAL ***
>>
>> > Lucky YOU aren't the judge!
>>
>> She said she was God's right hand so I think that she thinks her job is to judge. After all I
>> am sure when she talks to Paul he told her she was. That or God died and left her in charge
>> to
>> judge others.
>
>It is said that those with spiritual discernment may judge "... the
>natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for
>they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because
>they are spiritually discerned: the spiritual person judges all
>things, but is himself to be judged by no one. " - 1Co 2:14-15.
>
>And license to judge is granted by 1Co 6:2 "... do you not know that
>the saints will judge the world? ... "
>
>
>Cheers.
>
>
>
>---))) God is my judge not Vera however I am sure she will delight in what you have posted
>because afterall she is God's right hand and His appointed judge.
>
>
Diana. Vera and Randy need to remember this passage
Matthew 20:20-28
20 Then the mother of the sons of Zebedee came to him with her sons,
and kneeling before him, she asked a favor of him. 21 And he said to
her, "What do you want?" She said to him, "Declare that these two sons
of mine will sit, one at your right hand and one at your left, in your
kingdom." 22 But Jesus answered, "You do not know what you are asking.
Are you able to drink the cup that I am about to drink?'' They said to
him, "We are able." 23 He said to them, "You will indeed drink my cup,
but to sit at my right hand and at my left, this is not mine to grant,
but it is for those for whom it has been prepared by my Father." 24
When the ten heard it, they were angry with the two brothers. 25 But
Jesus called them to him and said, "You know that the rulers of the
Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones are tyrants over
them. 26 It will not be so among you; but whoever wishes to be great
among you must be your servant, 27 and whoever wishes to be first
among you must be your slave; 28 just as the Son of Man came not to be
served but to serve, and to give his life a ransom for many."
As well as
Proverbs 17:7
7 Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to
a ruler!
They are very Arrogant in claiming their power and authority when I
believe they have none.
I pity them as
James 1:26
26 If any think they are religious, and do not bridle their tongues
but deceive their hearts, their religion is worthless.
Finally remember in judgement you need to remember this
Matthew 7
Do Not Judge
1 "Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you
judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be
measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your
brother�s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how
can you say to your brother, �Let me remove the speck from your eye�;
and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the
plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the
speck from your brother�s eye.
Think about if this verse is applied to them and each of us. "2 For
with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure
you use, it will be measured back to you"
God Bless
Matt
gabriel
<dk...@charter.net> wrote:
: Does the world hate you? If not, why not?
:
: http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/show.php?i=630302&cat=0
:
: The Seven Deadly Deceptions Of Counterfeit Christianity
: http://www.freetruth.info
Hello,
Yes, the world will hate us for merely preaching the saving grace
of God through Jesus Christ. As long as people don't get confused
and think making sure people hate us is a goal or a work we are
to attend to.
Matthew 10:16 KJV
16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be
ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
Philippians 2:3 KJV
3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in
lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
But by preaching the truth of the gospel, yes, we will be hated.
John 3:19-21 KJV
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the
world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their
deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither
cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds
may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
In My Fathers House
>
> > On Nov 16, 4:41 am, Randy ®<pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 11/15/09, at 11:36:20PM,
> >> > In My Fathers House<hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> > > So you get to slander both Diana ~and~ God?
>
> >> > So you're slandering God's word in Galatians 1:8-9 that warns
> >> > against those who proclaim merit based gospels?
> > Nope the content of those verses have nothing to do with what I said.
>
> Right off the bat, let's get to the fact you've already admitted
> you employ no authoritative standard at in determining what is
> truth and error:
What is your obsession with authority? My standard is superior to
authority. It's not elected. It doesn't rise to power. Reality just
is. Now kindly stop spreading lies. You know I didn't invent
reality. I know it too. So just stop saying it and be honest if you
can.
[...]
::: Jesus is LORD :::
to hinder the Gospel be preached or miracles be done by the Holy Spirit,
who is acting through His elected.
Matt <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
0lpq55h8uie97sf2o...@4ax.com
> More of Vera 666 later
Calling a Christian things like that over six year while trying to do
the job as a Christian is blaspheming the Spirit:
This is a little older (June 8th, 2007) since it was the first I got
while searching, but the archives are full of posts like that:
Matt. <trdell1234@......gmail.com > wrote in
9qkh63hgmaqptrppt...@4ax.com
> And this from a so called former Satanic Witch named Vera.
>
> I Serve Christ and have always done so. She can't say the same.
>
> Satan is Vera. Look at her words for the last few years. they are
> Satans words using scripture, twisted to satans wishes.
>
> Matt
There above he called me Satan, and not for anything I might have done
to him personally, no, but FOR MY USING SCRIPTURE. HE CALLED THEM
SATAN'S WORDS AND REJECTED THE SPIRIT SPEAKING THROUGH ME WHILE POSTING
THE SCRIPTURES.
[:::]
> But if Vera is wrong then she has lied over and over. How can anyone
> trust her word again. For if I call her a trollop, whore, slut bitch
> ect. Those are forgivable sins. The lie Vera Six is telling is about
> a unforgivable sin, There is a difference.
Calling a Christian Satan while the Spirit is trying to preach the
Gospel through him or her while reaching out to the unbelievers by the
USE OF GOD'S WORD is not.
Just a newer one:
Matt <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
kd4855pmvbpiopk00...@4ax.com
> Vera Six so called X Satanic Witch WHAT???
>
> I do not listen to Satan so please Verea Six webmaster of
> growing-deeper.de You will need to speak louder.
>
> Matt
[dated 8th July, 2009]
The following are excerpts from only ONE of his posts:
In news:k6jhi41ct27cvaehv...@4ax.com,
The Matt d <trdel...@gmail.com > typed:
> Vera Six cyber slut
[...]
> ugly ass
[...]
> You are also a freak.
[...]
> Sad you were allowed to raise a son. Germany
> should feel shame
[...]
> so called X satanic witch.
[...]
> You are a Satanic Bitch.
[...]
> A rabid Bitch.
[...]
> Lets see what a little money can do shall we.
[...]
> Oh lets see if the German Government will sue me like you said LOL
> [...]
> Maybe you should write to president Obama LOL
[...]
> Vera Six you are a FREAK SHOW.
[...]
> Vera Six the slut doesn't know it.
[...]
> cyber slut.
[...]
> No real man would touch her.
[...]
> You do look like a drag queen
[...]
Calling me a "cyber slut" can be forgiven, but publicly calling a
Christian "a Satanic Bitch" in a Christian newsgroup cannot.
Is there still anyone of the Christians outside who would not call this
blaspheming the Spirit?
".for a tree is known by its fruit. .For out of the abundance of the
heart the mouth speaks" (Matthew 12:33-34, NKJV)
"And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem said, 'He has Beelzebub,'
and, 'By the ruler of the demons He casts out demons.' .'Assuredly, I
[Jesus] say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and
whatever blasphemies they may utter; but he who blasphemes against the
Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal
condemnation;' because they said, 'He has an unclean spirit'" Mark
3:22-30, NKJV
"Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men,
but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone
who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but
whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him,
either in this age or in the age to come" (NKJV, emphasis added).
Matthew 12:31-32, NKJV
In this context Jesus was doing miracles, but the Pharisees rejected his
clear witness of the Holy Spirit and attributes what Jesus was doing to
Satan.
When Christians preach the Gospel, it is the Holy Spirit in action,
reaching out to the lost. Torpedoing that over years by calling them
satanic, and calling good evil and vice versa they blaspheme the Spirit.
Matt has blasphemed the Spirit a hundred times or more. He simply cries
for proof, because he believes he can harm my reputation even more.
He has been using the same pattern as other blasphemers have in ACC,
like Mark Tindall, for example.
They are not attacking me personally, but God's Word (see above), the
Holy Spirit and those whom He has chosen to be His messengers.
My recommendation:
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not
into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God
speed is partaker of his evil deeds. (2 John 1:10-11 KJV)
--
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http://jesus-christ-is-my-lord-and-my-god.blogspot.com
http://bible-prophecy-and-revelation.blogspot.com/
....Matt.... trdel...@gmail.com wrote in
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Randy ®
In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Right off the bat, let's get to the fact you've already admitted
>> > you employ no authoritative standard at in determining what is
>> > truth and error:
> What is your obsession with authority? My standard is superior to
> authority. It's not elected. It doesn't rise to power. Reality just
> is. Now kindly stop spreading lies. You know I didn't invent
> reality. I know it too. So just stop saying it and be honest if you
> can.
>
> [...]
You do not employ "reality" as your standard, liar. You employ
your perception of reality, whatever that may be, and you _have_
admitted that is no authoritative standard:
On Tue, 10/13/09, at 1:32:24PM,
In Group: alt.christnet.christianlife
Article:
<aa66a701-309d-4910...@w37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Since you've admitted you perceive reality
> through your five senses, and that this is "subjective", all you
> can actually claim is that you are using your perception of
> reality to measure whether things are true or false. Thus you
> have no authoritative standard at all.
Which makes me just like you.
*****************************************************************
Now, House assumes that if this is the case for him, then it must
also be the case for believers who claim the Holy Spirit and
Scripture as their standard.
On the contrary. Believers have the Holy Spirit using Scripture
to reveal the deep things and the mind of God to them:
1 Corinthians 2:7-16 NIV
(7) No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been
hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began.
(8) None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they
had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
(9) However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has
heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who
love him"�
(10) but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit
searches all things, even the deep things of God.
(11) For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the
man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the
thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
(12) We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit
who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.
(13) This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human
wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual
truths in spiritual words.
(14) The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that
come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and
he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
(15) The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he
himself is not subject to any man's judgment:
(16) "For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may
instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.
Thus, House has no authority to pass judgment on believers or the
Bible, yet believers have the mind of the Lord, and understand
the deep things of God by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Woo!
*_Supreme Victory_ in Christ_*
::: Jesus is LORD :::
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> " ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <jesus-...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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>> Blaspheming the Spirit is calling Jesus or His people satanic in
>> order to hinder the Gospel be preached or miracles be done by the
>> Holy Spirit, who is acting through His elected.
>>
>
> confession.
I have to disappoint you. I am not this stupid to believe that people
are "satan". He is a person on his own, sittin on your shoulder, Polly,
laughing at you.
Diana shech...@reborn.com wrote in 7hs3qgF...@mid.individual.net
>> Fred explained it like this:
>> (when Fred calls someone Satan) he is addressing Satan himself and
>> not the ng contributer but somehow doing Satan's bidding by thought
>> or deed.
>>
>
> Fred is a liar about his motive and reason.
>
> A saved person can """NOT""" have the spirit of satan in them and I
> am saved by Grace
By Amazing Grace? Oh!
> and the Blood of Jesus Christ and he called me
> satan MANY MANY times.
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On Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:54 PM [GMT+1=CET],
Diana <shech...@reborn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> No! You _do_ share the evil work of those you choose to
>>> _"welcome"_ here, and they will be the first to tell you they
>>> are promoting different doctrines of Christ and different
>>
>>
>> Sensi:
>> There was *no evil work.* Why do you create one when there wasn't
>> one to begin with?
>
> Because he is being led by the devil.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
There you go, calling Randy someone led by the devil, while he was
acting on authority of the Highest God there is. Above you call Fred a
liar for doing the same.
And there you are accusing me of being a witch:
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On Wednesday, September 09, 2009 4:39 PM [GMT+1=CET],
Diana <shech...@reborn.com> wrote:
> She only proved she is NOT a Christian that she has NOT given up her
> witchcraft and her magic. Now everyone knows for sure without having
> to just think or guess it.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That is blasphemy of the Spirit.
Blaspheming the Spirit is calling Jesus or His people satanic in order
to hinder the Gospel be preached or miracles be done by the Holy Spirit,
who is acting through His elected.
Example:
Matt <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
0lpq55h8uie97sf2o...@4ax.com
> More of Vera 666 later
Calling a Christian things like that over six year while trying to do
the job as a Christian is blaspheming the Spirit:
This is a little older (June 8th, 2007) since it was the first I got
while searching, but the archives are full of posts like that:
Matt. <trdell1234@......gmail.com > wrote in
9qkh63hgmaqptrppt...@4ax.com
> And this from a so called former Satanic Witch named Vera.
>
> I Serve Christ and have always done so. She can't say the same.
>
> Satan is Vera. Look at her words for the last few years. they are
> Satans words using scripture, twisted to satans wishes.
>
> Matt
There above Matt called me Satan, and not for anything I might have done
to him personally, no, but FOR MY USING SCRIPTURE. HE CALLED THEM
SATAN'S WORDS AND REJECTED THE SPIRIT SPEAKING THROUGH ME WHILE POSTING
THE SCRIPTURES.
Calling a Christian Satan while the Spirit is trying to preach the
Gospel through him or her while reaching out to the unbelievers by the
USE OF GOD'S WORD is not.
Calling me a "cyber slut" can be forgiven, but publicly calling a
Christian "a Satanic Bitch" or using witchcraft in a Christian newsgroup
while preaching God's Word cannot.
"...for a tree is known by its fruit. .For out of the abundance of the
heart the mouth speaks" (Matthew 12:33-34, NKJV)
"And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem said, 'He has Beelzebub,'
and, 'By the ruler of the demons He casts out demons.' .'Assuredly, I
[Jesus] say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and
whatever blasphemies they may utter; but he who blasphemes against the
Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal
condemnation;' because they said, 'He has an unclean spirit'" Mark
3:22-30, NKJV
"Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men,
but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone
who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but
whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him,
either in this age or in the age to come" (NKJV, emphasis added).
Matthew 12:31-32, NKJV
In this context Jesus was doing miracles, but the Pharisees rejected his
clear witness of the Holy Spirit and attributes what Jesus was doing to
Satan.
When Christians preach the Gospel, it is the Holy Spirit in action,
reaching out to the lost. Torpedoing that over years by calling them
satanic, and calling good evil and vice versa they blaspheme the Spirit.
Pia Luen
him just for saying so. I am just glad that people are not as stupid as
he believes.
....Matt.... trdel...@gmail.com wrote in
g7u2g5h59qedvhdjc...@4ax.com
....Matt....
Well then Vera Six you do not speak for the Holy Spirit as the Holy
Spirit is still within me.
Guess you are a fraud and fake.
God Bless
Matt
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>" ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <jesus-...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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>> Blaspheming the Spirit is calling Jesus or His people satanic in order
>> to hinder the Gospel be preached or miracles be done by the Holy Spirit,
>> who is acting through His elected.
>>
>
>Yes that is why you call Matt, me and others satan. Thanks for your confession.
>
Vera and her group are special LOL One set of rules for us and one
for them. LOL
God Bless
Matt
....Matt....
wrote:
>He, he, this lying guy never backs anything up and thinks people believe
>him just for saying so. I am just glad that people are not as stupid as
>he believes.
So you are saying that Vera and Fred never call people satan? Maybe
you are the stupid liar here. either that or you have never read ACC.
I hope the latter.
God Bless and help you.
Matt
::: Jesus is LORD :::
> On Nov 16, 6:27 pm, "Diana" <shechin...@reborn.com> wrote:
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>> "I" <me@home000000000000545> wrote in
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>>> " ::: Jesus is LORD :::" Vera Six <jesus-is-l...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> *** A TRIAL ***
>>
>>> Lucky YOU aren't the judge!
>>
>> She said she was God's right hand so I think that she thinks her job
>> is to judge. After all I am sure when she talks to Paul he told her
>> she was. That or God died and left her in charge to judge others.
>
> It is said that those with spiritual discernment may judge "... the
> natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for
> they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because
> they are spiritually discerned: the spiritual person judges all
> things, but is himself to be judged by no one. " - 1Co 2:14-15.
>
> And license to judge is granted by 1Co 6:2 "... do you not know that
> the saints will judge the world? ... "
Correct.
::: Jesus is LORD :::
And you wrote above that Diana will be judged...
On the other hand...
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
(John 7:24 KJV)
r m
wrote:> 5ce5a5ad-539d-4154-876c-dd91acac1...@h14g2000pri.googlegroups.com
> > forgive, and you will be forgiven ... " - Luke 6:36-37.
That passage is in classic chiasmus format (a type of semitic
parallelism), so we have -
(A) be merciful, even as your Father is merciful;
(B) judge not, and you will not be judged;
(B) condemn not, and you will not be condemned;
(A) forgive, and you will be forgiven.
What Jesus is saying is: rather than judge and condemn, we should be
merciful and forgiving.
> And you wrote above that Diana will be judged...
I affirmed Diana's claim to that effect, for Jesus teaches about "that
day" when we all will be judged (e.g. Matt 7:21-23).
> On the other hand...
>
> Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
> (John 7:24 KJV)
That's an interesting incident to which the crowd judged Jesus for
healing on the sabbath (7:21-23).
For me, the key word is 'righteous' as it denotes acceptance and
fulfillment in regards to being right with God. So, the chap He
healed (John 5:1-10f) is now able to enter the temple precincts (5:14)
and so can participate in the forthcoming Passover (6:4) for the first
time in 38 years (5:5) because of His 'righteous judgment', whereas
the crowd was interested in 'appearances' i.e. acceptable actions for
the sabbath.
I'm not sure how that passage contributes towards the discussion
regards understanding judgment.
Teresita
> I don't see why a doctrine of "salvation through works" is any worse
> than one of "salvation without works".
Salvation is through divine grace obtained by responding with human free
will to the gift of faith with prayer and study (ie maintaining a
relationship with God with two-way communication) and also through works
(developing a love for God through a love for other people). Faith
without works is dead.
--
Teresita
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