On Apr 17, 8:27 pm, <
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> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher" <
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> > The Wise Man would make sure they all got lifeboats before sailing.
> > That's why I emphasize PREVENTION, which could save many lives
> > everyday. Actually it may even save the planet and all its passengers,
> > if we consider that we are also sinking.
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> > And there's also the fact that people should use time in church in
> > more important pursuits:
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> > "Many people were confused about where they should go after the order
> > to launch the lifeboats had been given. There should have been a
> > lifeboat drill on 14th April, but the Captain cancelled it to allow
> > people to go to church."
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http://historyonthenet.com/Titanic/lifeboats.htm
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> > Stupidity is not rewarded in the jungle. But that's only my humble
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http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
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> I watched the titanic(1958) and also a documentary(recent), which pointed
> out historically, survival between the classes which were 1st, 2nd, 3rd.
> Watching the movie which was based on the book "A Night To Remember", showed
> that 1st class were hurried into boats, 2nd and 3rd class were unawares. As
> I recall 3rd class were held below decks until most boats lowered into the
> water. Now from what I remember in that documentary, between 2nd and 3rd
> class, more 2nd class died than 3rd class (percentage wise). Between the
> classes, 1st class had the highest percentage of survivors, 3rd class 2nd
> highest, and 2nd class more died than the other classes. Reasoning that 1st
> class had money and influence, 3rd class had strength and resourcefulness,
> whereas 2nd class died in the chilly waters because they neither had money
> and influence(1st class), and were not as strong and resourceful as 3rd
> class. Of those plucked from the water alive only 6 lived(of any and all
> classes).
> And in the case of the ship the Californian, it is believed to be much
> further away than 10 miles. The fact that both boats could see their mast
> heads is due to a phenomenon that bent the light around the circumference of
> the horizon (a cold mirage) where cold air bent light downward. For whatever
> unexplainable reason the Californian did not aid in the rescue to Titanic.
> But the question begs an answer, what would the christians advise the
> passengers of the sinking Titanic?
> The subject line of the newsgroup post isn't revealing. According to TM, we
> should all have lifeboats, and prevention saves lives, planet Earth is our
> Titanic, time spent in church for issues most important is key, also there
> is confusion in time of urgency and crisis.
> In the account of lifeboat drilling, no drilling could save all people, but
> in a calm sea, lifeboats could have carried at least 20 more people per
> boat(documentary said). When lifeboats(people) heard screams of people they
> did not row near to rescue anyone for fear of swamping the boat, those in
> the water died in minutes.
> As to prevention, once your on the boat, you are under the care and
> direction of the captian and crew. Because of Titanic the preventitive
> measure of adequate life boats on ships is the current general rule(no so in
> the day).
> Earth is our Titanic, we all are in this together. There exists however a
> seperation in society of the classes. There really is a precieved difference
> either real or imaginary in the classes of our society. And those in the
> upper class of society are treated to the most
> elegant-elaborous-comfortable-speedy treatment. This is a society where if
> you want it now you can have it now, and money and influence make it happen
> now. But as some survived in the Titanic whether they were the affluent or
> lower class, everybody on earth will succumb. But social class, is in truth
> a reality in this life, and I will say a real thing in the afterlife or life
> to come. Biblically speaking(for a believer) that God treats his own
> children better and treats an unbeliever, with mercy and indifference(never
> too late to believe-you decide). So we have people in society over us as on
> Titanic they had a captain and crew, passengers of a ship and in society,
> people of nations. You really can't compare this mother earth with Titanic.
> Sometimes I think we all believe this earth is doomed, and we are on it and
> doomed as well- get that out of your head. There really are higher classes
> of society, that is real.
> Time better spent in church, this is a topic that divides faiths of all
> religions. There are different approaches to the Christian religion, as to
> which application intreprets the original, that is up to debate. But
> biblically, the church, (don't quote me I might be wrong) according to
> 1Kings 5, where it is written:
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> 1 Kings 5:1 (KJV) And Hiram king of Tyre sent his servants unto Solomon;
> for
> he had heard that they had anointed him king in the room of his father: for
> Hiram was ever a lover of David.
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> 1 Kings 5:2 (KJV) And Solomon sent to Hiram, saying,
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> 1 Kings 5:3 (KJV) Thou knowest how that David my father could not build an
> house unto the name of the LORD his God for the wars which were about him on
> every side, until the LORD put them under the soles of his feet.
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> 1 Kings 5:4 (KJV) But now the LORD my God hath given me rest on every
> side,
> so that there is neither adversary nor evil occurrent.
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> 1 Kings 5:5 (KJV) And, behold, I purpose to build an house unto the name
> of
> the LORD my God, as the LORD spake unto David my father, saying, Thy son,
> whom
> I will set upon thy throne in thy room, he shall build an house unto my
> name.
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> When you read that Solomon, had found rest from wars on all sides that he
> built a church(for his father David) that the very foundation of church
> means peace on all sides, and built unto the name of God. So when you see
> chruches, in cities and on street corners it is a sign of peace. The
> ministry itself has been given to us all to be the ministry of
> reconciliation as it is written:
> 2 Corinthians 5:18 (KJV) And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us
> to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of
> reconciliation;
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> 2 Corinthians 5:19 (KJV) To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the
> world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath
> committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
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> Time well spent in church has long been working on the end of wars, as well
> as the reconciliation of us all one to another. Jesus showed us the way to
> pastor in the churches, known as the first love. So that when we have to
> give account before God, we can say; I have worked to reconcile this people
> for you God, to make it easier for you. The first commandment is to love
> God.
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> There is a whole lot of confusion in the supposed launching of lifeboats. In
> a crisis people act irrationally. I have been a Christian a long time, we
> are all going somewhere.
Very interesting analysis of the class struggle in the ship, which is
easily applicable to the Earth. There's an attitude among the upper
classes that somebody is taking care of them and that makes them
unaware of the errors at the decision making. For example, I don't
hear them saying, "Hey, we are wasting our energy resources, which are
precious down the line." No, they drive their wasteful SUVs and
motorboats as if there's no future. Likewise I don't see many church
people at least going to church by bicycle. Hey, Jesus rode a lowly
donkey to prove something!
I say everything is related but it depends how you interpret the
facts. Third class people are survivors and they would never say,
"Hey, let's steer clear of this area that is full of icebergs." They
may see it coming but wait for catastrophe to happen because they are
ignored in life. We are saying to the captain, "FULL BLAST, NEVER MIND
WE ARE ON A COLLISION COURSE."
There are thousands of accidents that happen everyday, some of them on
bicycle, which are fully preventable. I'm on a collision course with
pedestrians and cars. And whenever I raise my voice I'm ignored. Of
course, that's because I'm a monkey.