A Moment of Awakening?
ChrisC
his lectures. I was in a pretty good frame of mind last night. Anyway
he was talking about awakening, how we all walk around in a delusion.
What's weird is I understood this last night, now it's gone. I had an
what could be called awakened moment and I really understood it all. I
went a bed contented. When I awoke this morning it was gone. I wonder
what it could have been.
Was it a religious experience? I have never experienced anything like
it before. Probably came close on psychedics, but I was stone cold
sober last night. Strange. But Cool.
Julian
> I was reading Still the Mind by Alan Watts, I also listened to one of
> his lectures. I was in a pretty good frame of mind last night. Anyway
> he was talking about awakening, how we all walk around in a delusion.
> What's weird is I understood this last night, now it's gone. I had an
> what could be called awakened moment and I really understood it all. I
> went a bed contented. When I awoke this morning it was gone. I wonder
> what it could have been.
>
> Was it a religious experience?
If you need a lable try "false alarm."
norbu_tragri
> I was reading Still the Mind by Alan Watts, I also listened to one of
> his lectures. I was in a pretty good frame of mind last night. Anyway
> he was talking about awakening, how we all walk around in a delusion.
> What's weird is I understood this last night, now it's gone. I had an
> what could be called awakened moment and I really understood it all. I
> went a bed contented. When I awoke this morning it was gone. I wonder
> what it could have been.
i haven't read that particular book by Alan Watts, but i've heard a
few
dozen talks bt him back when KPFK in Los Angeles used to broadcast
them
a few decades ago...and, unrelated to that,not about Alan Watts,
was before that, i had a similar experience back then...
a sense that i had had a glimpse of a wider world, and that
i was living my life stuck in a little corner...the next day it was
gone.
some 30 years later i have a pretty good idea what happened, and it
might be
what happened to you.
in my case what happened was that i stepped outside of my personal
history,
my story, my drama - the sky was wide open - being alive didn't mean i
was
stuck in my story, nor did it mean i had to reject where i came from,
-
open possibility and what was actually happening were the same
thing...
when i tried to figure that out the next day it was in terms of my own
story,
my social and intellectual involvements, ideas, beliefs, etc - i was
mired
right back in that little corner that avoided the big wide open world
beyond any dogmas or beliefs...
Later i learned about how our stories occur, how clinging to them pins
us down
to being caricatures of ourselves...how we can't push that away to get
free...
we have to open our hearts, accept the story-lines, just look, let be,
and then
they fade by themselves. It's not a quick cut - we have to make
friends with ourselves,
so to speak. There is no short-cut to being honest with ourselves and
just looking at where
we are now. Just looking, noticing...Heart open, no dogma, totally
honest come
hell or heaven...
Flips the whole thing of getting lost in dramas, stories,
concepts,...back to the
life alive wide open....
>
> Was it a religious experience?
Yep.
Clinging to it and trying to recreate it is the opposite.
Let it go. What is true stays, so to speak, the rest fades, as long as
you just look
with open heart.
> I have never experienced anything like
> it before.
When you were three or four ? Playing...livingroom or yard...?
> Probably came close on psychedics,
those just short-circuit short-term memory, give a glimpse sometimes
when they
aren't enraging psychodrama...they're unreliable...
> but I was stone cold
> sober last night. Strange. But Cool.
let it go.
what is real will come back.
open heart.
trust.
razor sharp honesty.
if you try to recreate the experience, to cling to it, you will only
end up in an endless game of loss.
just look with open heart at whatever happens...
trust in heart...
just look, get to know yourself as thoughts and feelings come and go,
don't try to recreate the experience, just be honest, opening your
heart
to whatever is happening...
- n. :)
norbu_tragri
i posted a mushy reply about peeling all the layers away...that his
religious experience was
just that - of being unstuck - open -. But that trying to re-create it
was a dead-end, a dogma,
a dead-end trying to find again some such-and-such thing.
a few speed bumps to the turn around...
Eleusis Durrell
> I was reading Still the Mind by Alan Watts, <snip>
> What's weird is I understood this last night, now it's gone.
Hey Chris... it's probably still 'there' - *you* just moved a little
to the left.
>I had an
> what could be called awakened moment and I really understood it all. I
> went a bed contented. When I awoke this morning it was gone. I wonder
> what it could have been.
Did you write it down? impress it into an image somewhere? Every
Awakening is a particular algorithm, and is seeking a seat or an
anchor outside of one's *own* mind/body complex. If we don't *put*
the awareness somewhere, it just melts back into its original
space. I personally treat those lucidities like a dream, and try
to give them access to this place (which, let's face it, needs all the
clarity it can get).
>
Gift over gift,
Leu