"The Ten Worlds" Lecture; 1997 Summer Study Course: Learning!*
Reginald Carpenter
Re: "The Ten Worlds" Lecture; 1997 Summer Study Course: Learning!*
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren.shoshu.news Date: Tue, Dec 4,
2001, 10:05pm
From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter)
To Arbn readers: This is a continuation of the "Ten Worlds" Lecture
prepared by the Overseas Bureau for the 1997 Summer Study Course.**
Continuance of lecture:
LEARNING
"The seventh life condition is Learning."
[repeated from the last sentence in 11th para.]
"In His Gosho, "The Opening of the Eyes," the Daishonin made
the following reference to the Daijuku Sutra:
"That person will be unable to benefit himself or to benefit others. The
shomon (men of Learning) and the engaku (men of Realization) are like
this." (Ref.: Shinpen, p. 529; MW Vol. 2, p. 88)
The world of Learning describes a life condition in which people derive
great pleasure and satisfaction from scholarly pursuits, theoretical
study and intellectual enrichment from philosophical knowledge.
People in the world of Learning fundamentally represent those who
listened to the voice of the Buddha; in other words, they were the
disciples of the Buddha.
In general, this condition describes those who strive for spiritual and
humanistic self-improvement." [12th para.]
[To be continued]
**Reference: Article published in the Nichiren Shoshu Monthly magazine,
September 1997 issue, Vol. 4 No. 9, page #8. Copyright 1997 by NST. All
rights reserved.
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Re: NST Myogyo ji: The Daily Gosho Passage, Dec. 7th
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
Date: Tue, Nov 20, 2001, 3:36pm
From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter)
Correction: for "Great Matrixes" messages on this thread, Nov. 20th
Re. RC (my) previous message on this thread, re. "The Great
Matrixes: Re. from the Ten Worlds to total Ichinen Sanzen," this is a
correction.
In part # "2c." of the message, the words, "x all 10 (Ten)
worlds," were inadvertently placed & repeated during their re-copying,
and should be deleted, for the sentences to read:
"2c. Therefore, 100 (Ten) Worlds = the Mutual Possession of the Ten
Worlds!"
Made correction & reposted entire message.
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Re: NST - Myogyoji: The Daily Gosho Passage, Dec. 7th
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
Date: Tue, Nov 20, 2001, 11:19am
From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter)
The Great Matrixes: Re. from the Ten Worlds to total Ichinen Sanzen!*
To Arbn readers: Re. RC (my) re-posting on 11/09/01, 3:48pm CST, I
changed the subject/ title to:
The Great Matrixes: Re. from the Ten Worlds to total Ichinen Sanzen!*
1) Re. the new subject/ title, by using the posting & thread on the
Daily Gosho Passage for the 7th day of the month, then it can
demonstrate or represent the "Great Matrix" of the 7th world of the Ten
Worlds - Learning, within the "Greater Matrix" of the Ten Worlds &
Mutual Possession of the Ten Worlds, within the "Greatest Matrix" of all
- the theoretical (Jap. ri) teaching of Ichinen Sanzen which we all
actually possess within our daily lives, of course!
2) Although, like the one/ single posting itself, the great matrix of
the one - 7th world of Learning represents that one world itself; but,
it is really composed of or contains 10 realms or worlds within the
greater matrix of the Mutual Possession of the Ten Worlds:
a. 1 realm/ world (Learning) x 10 (all Ten) worlds = 10 realms/ worlds
(all in Learning).
b. All 10 (Ten) worlds x all 10 (Ten) worlds = 100 (Ten) worlds.
c. Therefore, all 100 (Ten) worlds = the Mutual Possession of the Ten
Worlds!
3) However, the greater matrix of the one - 7th world of Learning is
ultimately composed of or contains 30 realms or worlds within the
greatest matrix of the theoretical teaching - (Jap.) Ri-no-Ichinen
Sanzen:
a. 100 worlds x 10 factors = 1,000 worlds.
b. 10 worlds (in Learning) x 3 realms of existence = 30 realms/ world.
And, all 100 worlds x 30 realms/ worlds = 3,000 realms/ worlds.
And, all 1,000 worlds x 3 realms of existence = 3,000 worlds.
c. Therefore, 3,000 Worlds = Ichinen Sanzen!
FYI - This "formula" can be expressed algebraically, either by using
exponents or as common logarithms (base 10).
Because, the Daishonin/ True Buddha was so Enlightened, and
such a genius too, that He must have foreseen and known all about "the
new math," and how to do it, too! (rhymes) : - )
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Re: NST Myogyo-ji: The Daily Gosho Passage, Dec. 7th
"But your faith will determine all these things. A sword
will be useless in the hands of a coward. The mighty sword of the Lotus
Sutra must be wielded by one courageous in faith. Then, he/she will be
as strong as a demon armed with an iron staff. I, Nichiren, have
inscribed my life in sumi, so believe in the Gohonzon with your whole
heart. The Buddha's will is the Lotus Sutra, but the soul of Nichiren is
nothing other than Nam-myoho-renge-kyo."**
** from "Reply To Kyo'o" Gosho.
Reference: MWND Vol. 1, p. 119.
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Airborne in Cyberspace*
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tendency in the world's of learning and partial realization, i.e., shomon and
engaku to attain Buddhahood through the Lotus Sutra.
So those of us who are too dense to get it still can attain. PTLS. UAS
greenie
Reginald Carpenter
12/07/01, 11:59pm CST+6.
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Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
Date: Fri, Dec 7, 2001, 11:59pm (CST+6) From: xtombr...@aol.com
(greengables)
>>> What is interesting about the ten worlds is that one need not have a
basic life tendency in the world's [sic] of learning and partial
realization, i.e., shomon and engaku to attain Buddhahood through the
Lotus Sutra. <--- #1.
1) RC comments:
a). First of all, "what is [really] interesting" is that, although the
"Ten Worlds" lecture explained ALL of the Ten Worlds very explicitly, it
NEVER read/ said any-thing for any-one or you to MISquote or think that
there is any such thing as a world of "partial realization"! LOL.
Because, if there was, then ALL of the Ten Worlds would have to be
only "partial worlds" too, which is No-thing [Zen] but NON-sense; i.e.
just as, there is NO such thing as a "partial" world - planet Earth, Dr.
GreenG! LOL.
b). Secondly, the correct understanding & Truth about the concept of the
basic Ten Worlds is that, ALL of them, individually & collectively, are
ALL equally "basic life" tendencies!
Therefore, with a correct understanding of the basic Ten Worlds, then
"one not need have" gotten the absolutely & positively Wrong idea to
"have a basic life tendency in the worlds [not "world's"] of learning
and realization [not "partial realization"] in the first place! LOL.
c). Just read/ see "a & b" again, FOOL! LOL.
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>>> So those of us who are too dense to get it still can attain. <---
#2. PTLS. UAS greenie
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2) RC comments: a). Just re-read/ see above #1 - enuff said! LOL.
b). So, if "those of us who are [just] too dense to [really] get it, the
basic Ten Worlds, still can't "get it", then they are just "Never Gonna
Get It"! - EnVogue: "Never gonna get it, never gonna get it"! (repeat
three (3) times, of course!) ROTFL.
Because, RIF - Reading Is FunDaMental, FOOL! - sez real Mr. T. ROTFL.
<http://www.rif.org>
However, they/ we must "Keep Hope Alive"! - the Right Reverend "Jesse
James" Jackson. LOL.
So, both T&PTLBFM - Thanking & Praising the Lord Buddha for Mercy (Jap.
Jihi), even those like you who are just too DENSE to ever understand it
"can still attain" it - "the basic life tendency" of any ONE of the
basic Ten Worlds, INcluding Buddhahood, "through the Lotus Sutra" -
Gohonzon!
And, that's even if those like you have started out Wrong & DENSEly
picked the Wrong one(s) to try to attain in the first (1st) place, Dr.
GreenG! ROTFL.
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And, that's even if those like you have started out Wrong & DENSEly
picked the Wrong one(s) to try to attain in the first (1st) place, Dr.
GreenG! ROTFL. >>
Ain't it the truth. TPTLBM, UAS, PCMCIA
greenie
Reginald Carpenter
Re: "The Ten Worlds" Lecture; 1997 Summer Study Course: Learning!*
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
From: xtombr...@aol.com (greengables)
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RC comments: Well, thank you and "good for you" too, for having the
honesty & humility to respond that & me too, "Greenie"! : - )
1). Because, re. the above, guess what?: "you are/ were NOT alone"!
LOL.
FYI - We all, probably & normally, have UNknowingly started out on the
Wrong path towards Buddhahood, just as seekers of NOT that Way, but
generally as seekers of what? : knowledge, aka. the "Gate" or Gate-Way
of the 7th World - Learning!
"What or where else"? Answer - really "No-thing" [Zen] or No-where
else! LOL.
a). For example, as I recall from your having related your experience,
you began or basically "self-started" & UNknowingly "shakubuku-ed"
yourself out into this Buddhism from the standpoint of your being in the
academic life-world of a college/ university student or graduate who was
basically just LEARNING, before you finally began practicing it long
after you had first found out about it!
So, you really AIN'T "too DENSE" at all, and since you didn't fall for
that, you're just getting to be NO fun at all for me on Arbn, nka.
T-Arbn: "Where the Fun Never Stops!", "Greenie"! LOL.
Well, I guess that all of those Tozans you've been making are really
paying off for you! LOL.
b). Whereas, for example, in Stoney's (my) own story/ experience, he/ I
had really already made a conscious decision to seek the Truth, before
buying a set of the GBWW - "Great Books of the Western World" -
Encyclopaedia Brittanica, to try to find out the Truth after he/ I had
finished LEARNING it thru reading all of them! LOL.
c). Fortunately, however, some-body had the Bodhisattva compassion and/
or Buddhist mercy to shakubuku Stoney (me), very shortly after he/ I
bought them, and before he/ I ever really got the chance to "crack a
book" and waste all of his/ my valuable time trying to take that "book
route" path way, and UNknowingly trying to LEARN his/ my way towards
Buddhahood - enlightenment too, like you too! LOL.
d). So then, Stoney (me) was fortunately able to receive & use the
"Readers Digest version" or take the "shortcut" path way towards
Buddhahood or enlightenment -- the Nichiren Shoshu path/way, of course!
: - )
2) However, the real beauty & Truth about the Ten Worlds is that,
every-one can attain their own Buddhahood or enlightenment starting out
right from within whatever lower world their life condition or "basic
life tendency" is in at the time! : - )
So, PTLB - Praising the Lord Buddha and TGM - Thanking Gohonzon for
Mercy is right! : - )
3) Well anyway, does some-body know any-body who wants to buy an old,
"collectors' item" set of GBWW - Great Books of the Western World, that
are just like brand-new -- they're really still in their "Mint
Condition" (R & B singing group), Professor GreenG?! LOL.
Reginald Carpenter
CST: Re. "GreenGables" posting on 12/08/01, 7:09am CST+6.
1) For "GreenGables": Well, if the "Ten Worlds" lecture and RC's (my)
"Great Matrixes" messages don't help you to "get it," then there might
be a "sure-fire" way for you to "get it," if you just think about it by
using your knowledge & expertise re. "set designing" to imagine/
visualize an American auditorium theater's seating arrangement, or just
look at the architectural illustrations in your doctoral thesis, as
being analogous to the concept of the "Ten Worlds," Dr. GreenG! : - )
a). First of all, both the interior & exterior of the entire building
structure of the imaginary American auditorium/ theater itself
represents the "Greatest Matrix" - (Jap.) Ri-no-Ichinen Sanzen!!!
b). Secondly, only the entire, interioral structure of the auditorium
seating arena of the imaginary theater represents the "Greater Matrix"
of the Mutual Possession of all ten (10) Ten Worlds!!
c). Lastly, only the sections & seats of the entire auditorium seating
arena of the imaginary theater represents the "Great Matrix" of the
basic Ten Worlds!
For example, the American auditorium theater:
Main Floor.
Section 1FC - reserved for 10th World:
All the Buddhas are always seated in the front section on the main
floor, in the front rows that are directly to the "front & center" of
the stage, of course!
Sections 1LF & 1RF - reserved for 9th World: All the Bodhisattvas
are always seated in the front sections on the main floor, in the front
rows that are on the wings, to the left front & right front of center
stage, of course.
Section 1CR - reserved for the 8th World:
All the people in Realization are always seated in the rear section on
the main floor, in the rear rows that are directly behind all the
Buddhas' seating area and to the "front & center" of the stage, of
course.
Sections 1LR & 1RR for the 7th World:
All the people in Learning are always seated in the rear sections on the
main floor, in the rear rows that are on the wings, directly behind all
the Bodhisattvas' seating areas and to the left rear & right rear of
center stage, of course.
2nd Floor - 1st Balcony.
Sections 2BLF & 2BRF - reserved for the 6th World:
All the people in Rapture (Heaven) are always seated in the 1st
balcony's front sections, in the rows that are on the wings overhanging
the main floor's 1F & 2F seats, directly above all of the Bodhisattvas'
seating areas, of course.
Section 2BCR - reserved for the 5th World:
All the people in Humanity (Tranquility) are always seated in the 1st
balcony's center rear section, in the rows that are overhanging the main
floor's 1L/ 1C/ 1R seats, directly above all of the Learning &
Realization people's seating areas, of course.
3rd Floor - 2nd Balcony.
Sections 3BLF & 3BRF - reserved for the 4th World:
All the people in Anger are always seated in the 2nd balcony's sections,
in the rows that are on the wings overhanging the 1st balcony's 2BLF &
2BRF seats, directly above all of the Rapture (Heaven) people's seating
areas, of course.
Section 3BCR - un-reserved for the 3rd World: People in Animality are
usually seated in the 2nd balcony's center section, in the rows that are
overhanging the 1st balcony's 2BCR seats, directly above all of the
Humanity people's central seating area, of course.
Section 3BCR - un-reserved for the 2nd World:
People in Hunger are usually seated in the 2nd balcony's right center
rear section, in the rows that are directly above all of the Humanity
people's right center seating area, of course.
Section 3BCL - un-reserved for the 1st World: People in Hell are
usually seated in the 2nd balcony's left center rear section, in the
rows that are directly above all of the Humanity people's left center
seating area, of course.
Note: since all of the people in the 1st, 2nd & 3rd Worlds are in the
very lowest worlds together known as the Three Evil Paths and they
frequently change Up their basic life conditions between them, then
their seating is usually un-reserved and is just done on a "first come,
first serve" basis, except for "special shows," of course! ROTFL.
2). If the above doesn't work for you to "get it," No Problem - just go
back on Tozan, and you can always go back to designing & working on
those Canadian beer loading docks again, exporting Molson's &
MooseHead's beers to the USA, for US to drink Up when we're attending
our American auditorium theaters, Dr. GreenG! LOL.
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Re: "The Ten Worlds" Lecture; 1997 Summer Study Course: Learning!*
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
Date: Sat, Dec 8, 2001, 4:25am
From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter)
Re: "The Ten Worlds" Lecture; 1997 Summer Study Course: Learning!*
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
Date: Sat, Dec 8, 2001, 7:09am (CST+6)
From: xtombr...@aol.com (greengables)
<<
And, that's even if those like you have started out Wrong & DENSEly
picked the Wrong one(s) to try to attain in the first (1st) place, Dr.
GreenG! ROTFL. >>
Ain't it the truth. TPTLBM, UAS, PCMCIA
greenie
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RC comments: Well, thank you and "good for you" too, for having the
honesty & humility to respond to that & me too, "Greenie"! : - )
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dimesional than all that.LOL
BTW I was sitting front and centre but in the second row of seats at the back
at the performance by the Suzuki Company of Dionysis last week. Very
ritualistic but not half as fun as the Oeshiki Ceremony, speaking of tozan.
Great costumes and acting naturally because tadashi Suzuki is very famous. In
the program he compared the theatre to a hospital. LOL But in the play they
chanted nembutsu prayers or something not Lotus Sutra!!! The audience were
oblivious
to this sensation being all intelligentsia and people of the world of LEARNING
at Berkeley and from elsewhere like myself...because I was fool enough to drive
there all the way from Santa Clara to see them perform.
Anyhoo--I don't thinl I was trying to learn Buddhism just looking for
it...seeking...that's different and when I saw the Gohonzon for the first time
I recognized it. When I asked them did I have to understand--they said "no"
which was good enough for me because I knew that you just can't know in the
conventional sense of the word...make any sense. So I just did gonygo like I
knew it already and then asked for a Gohonzon which I had the next week when
Rev Yamada was visiting. It was the week of the harmonic convergence...people
were travelling everywhere to high mountains to see something but I found the
Gohonzon right at home in TO.
It wasn't until my first tozan, seeing the DaiGohonzon that I came to life.
Greenie
greenie
Reginald Carpenter
2:51pm CST; x-ref. to GreenGables posting on 12/08/01, 7:09am CST+6.
1). Re. my previous message today at 2:51pm, to illustrate that analogy
of an American auditorium theater, representing the "Greater Matrix" -
Mutual Possession of all ten (10) Ten Worlds, below is the "Seating
Chart" for the landmark, Chicago Auditorium Theatre and its' website!
<http://www.auditoriumtheatre.org/events/seating_chart.php>
2). For example:
Orchestra (Main Floor & Upper/ Lower Boxes).
Main Floor (Green Section).
Reserved for 10th World:
All the Buddhas are seated on main floor in front & center rows directly
toward stage, of course!
Reserved for 9th World:
All the Bodhisattvas are seated on main floor in left & right center
front rows & wings flanking all the Buddhas' seating area, of course.
Reserved for 8th World:
All the Realization (Absorption) people are seated on main floor in rear
& center rows directly toward stage & behind all the Buddhas' seating
area, of course.
Reserved for 7th World:
All the Learning people are seated on main floor in rear and left &
right center rows flanking all the Realization people's seating area, of
course.
Upper & Lower Boxes (Red Section).
Reserved for 6th World:
All the Rapture (Heaven) people are seated in both the upper & lower
boxes above main floor flanking all the Bodhisattvas' seating area, of
course.
First (1st) Balcony (Blue Section).
Reserved for 5th World:
All the Humanity (Tranquility) people are seated in the entire 1st
balcony, directly above Learning & Realization (Absorption) People's
seating areas on main floor and Rapture people in upper & lower boxes,
of course.
Second (2nd) Balcony (Brown Section).
Reserved for 4th World:
All the Anger people are seated in the entire 2nd balcony, directly
above Humanity people's central seating area in 1st balcony, of course.
Gallery (Purple Section).
Unreserved for 1st, 2nd & 3rd Worlds:
All the Animality people are usually seated in the front row(s), all the
Hunger people are usually seated in the right rear rows, and all the
Hell people are usually seated in the left rear rows; and all these
people are usually allowed to change their seats in the Gallery; and all
these people are directly above Anger people's seating area in 2nd
balcony, of course.
BTW - Re. my message today at 4:25am, although most of us, INcluding
myself, probably thought that we started or were very smartly starting
out in Buddhism, trying to attain enlightenment from the life condition
of the world of Learning, or at least very intelligently from the life
condition of the world of Humanity (Tranquility), and/ or we were
probably just trying to attain those particular life conditions in
either those worlds or in the life condition of the world of Rapture
(Heaven) to begin with, trying to achieve material desires, we were all
Wrong in the 1st place, Dr. GreenG! ROTFL.
Because, that idea or those ideas was/ were really No-thing [Zen] but
an ILLusion or DC - Delusion & CONfusion in the 1st place! LOL.
Therefore, where we all really & truly begin/ began and start/ started
out from in Buddhism, trying to attain enlightenment, was in the low-est
life conditions of the 1st, 2nd & 3rd Worlds, just like all of the
"Purple People Eaters" sitting in all those "nose-bleed" seats of the
"peanut" Gallery (Purple Section)! LOL.
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Re: "The Ten Worlds" Lecture; 1997 Summer Study Course: Learning!*
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
Date: Sat, Dec 8, 2001, 2:51pm
From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter)
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Re: "The Ten Worlds" Lecture; 1997 Summer Study Course: Learning!*
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
Date: Sun, Dec 9, 2001, 6:09am (CST+6) From: xtombr...@aol.com
(greengables)
>>> Thanks for your reply Stoney, but I think it is more three
dimensional or ten dimensional than all that. <---#1. LOL.
1). RC comments: Well, thanks for your reply too; but, since you didn't
indicate just which one of my replies that you are referring to, then I
will just have to ass-ume that you meant both of them! LOL.
"But, I think" that what you think it is compared to what it really
is, as the Three (3) Buddhas - Lord Shakyamuni Buddha, T'ien-t'ai Buddha
& Nichiren Daishonin (True) Buddha say/ taught it is, is so very much
less enlightened "than all that"! LOL.
Un-fortunately, it's too bad for you that you just can't seem to "get
it" correctly and see or visualize the profound concept(s) involved in
the theoretical (Jap. ri) teaching of Ichinen Sanzen that are manifested
in everyday, real life in an environment, even within some-thing that is
used as an analogy or example (theater/ theatre) of it that you say you
studied yourself to get a doctoral degree?!
"That's Incredible"! - old TV show. LOL
Well, that just goes to prove to you & show you why that, right in the
Hoben chapter of the Lotus Sutra, Lord Shakyamuni Buddha said & I quote,
"Neither LEARNed [women] men (shomon) nor self-realized sages (engaku)
are able to attain it"!**
**reference: "The Lotus Sutra - Its History and Practice Today", page
#29; copyright 1977 by World Tribune Press.
NO Problem - just keep on trying to attain enlightenment and keep going
on Tozan; and, whenever you are looking at the Gohonzon, trying to
visualize It, just be sure that you are wearing your eyeglasses to try
to see/ visualize That correctly, Dr. GreenG! LOL.
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BTW - I was sitting front and centre, but in the second row of seats at
the back at the performance by the Suzuki Company of Dionysis last week.
Very ritualistic, but not half as fun as the Oeshiki Ceremony, speaking
of Tozan. Great costumes and acting naturally, because Tadashi Suzuki is
very famous. In the program, he compared the theatre to a hospital. LOL.
But in the play, they chanted Nembutsu prayers or something not Lotus
Sutra!!! The audience were oblivious to this sensation being all
intelligentsia and people of the world of LEARNING at Berkeley and from
elsewhere like myself... because, I was fool enough to drive there all
the way from Santa Clara to see them perform.
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>>> Anyhow -- I don't think I was trying to learn Buddhism [by] just
looking for it... seeking... that's different, and when I saw the
Gohonzon for the first time, I recognized it. <--- #2.
2). RC comments: See above #1.
"Oh, Lawdy have mercy" - NOT another "DC" - Drug Crazed "Dave's World"
kind of story?! ROTFL.
"Anyhow," do ya think dat you were in attendance at " Da Ceremony in da
Air" with dat "DC" - da Dummy Cole, too?! ROTFL.
Pray tell, just where in the H-e-l-l do you kind of people get these
crazy-ass ideas from in the first place - way out yonder in outer
space?! LOL.
So sorry, but his story & your above story are just so identical &
mystical that it ain't funny, honey! LOL.
Anyway, let me try to help Arbn readers & you, if that's possible for
you, to understand some-thing that you obviously must have never LEARNed
or been taught, or even thought about it correctly to this day, "NO way,
Jose"! LOL.
In regards to "trying to learn" ** any-thing like Buddhism, that is
really "seeking" ** or "just looking for it"/ some-thing (Buddhism) and
vice-versa; an endeavor to find out, study, some-thing/ it, FOOL! LOL.
**Reference: Roget's International Thesaurus, 4th Edition, copyrighted
1911 to 1977 by Thomas Y. Crowell Company, Inc:
Class Six: Intellect
III. Communication Of Ideas
C. Education
564. LEARNING [7th World]
564.2 Absorption [ 8th World - Realization]
564.3 STUDY ["Faith, Practice & Study"]
Class Seven: VOLITION [part of (Jap.) ri-no-Ichinen Sanzen]
III. Voluntary Action
B. Exertion; ENDEAVOR
714. ENDEAVOR
714.7 SEEK to, STUDY to, etc.
Therefore, re. the subject, you were coming from a life condition in a
lower world, probably #6 - Rapture (Heaven), to somewhere in the 7th
World - LEARNING at that time; and so by definition, you were
endeavoring/ "trying to LEARN Buddhism [by] just looking for it/ SEEKing
[it]"; and "that's NOT different," FOOL! LOL.
So, you, and most of us, INcluding me too, just really did NOT know
what we were doing, or how we were doing it, when we were first
introduced to this Buddhism, and know what we were really supposed to be
trying to attain relevant to the "Ten Worlds" which are/ were normally
NOT even dis-cussed with guests in introductory meetings or by old
NSA-SGI members trying to explain it to non-members back in the "old
days," Dr. GreenG!
IOW - we are/ were all here, "Down Here On the Ground" - George Benson,
just rolling around, basically in our individual & collective low life
conditions of Avarice, Anger & STUPIDITY until we are/ were finally
introduced to this (true) Buddhism! LOL.
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>>> When I asked them did I have to understand -- they said "no" which
was good enough for me, because I knew that you just can't know in the
conventional sense of the word... make any sense[?]. <--- #3.
3). RC comments: See above #s1 & 2.
Answer - well, "yes," that makes more sense so far than what you said/
wrote & I quoted in above #s 1 & 2! LOL.
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>>> So, I just did gonygo like I knew it already, <--- #4.
4). RC comments: See above #s 1 - 3.
So, what you really meant is that, you just faked "doing Gongyo" like
you "knew it already", "Greenie"?! ROTFL.
Keep it Up, "Gracie" (Allen - famous old comedienne), your jokes are
better than mine and just killing ole Stoney (me) today! LOL.
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and then asked for a Gohonzon which I had the next week when Rev Yamada
was visiting.
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>>> It was the week of the harmonic convergence... people were
travelling everywhere to high mountains to see something, <--- #5.
5). RC comments: See above #2.
Oh yeah, that was the very same week that "DC" - Dummy Cole was on his
way back home from being High at the "Ceremony in the Air" and he said
that he was going to "make a stop" to say "Hi" and make a "harmonic
convergence" with "God" (who dat?)and to see & pick Up the "Ten
Commandments" and bring those back with him for a "harmonic convergence"
with "people ... traveling everywhere to high mountains", to let them
see them, too; and when he saw "Moses" (who dat?) and made a "harmonic
convergence" with him, then he just gave them to him! ROTFL.
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>>> but I found the Gohonzon right at home in TO. <--- #6.
6) See above #s 1 - 4.
NO, you did NOT "find" the Gohonzon, FOOL! LOL.
Because, It wasn't "lost" - you were; so It found YOU! : - )
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>>> It wasn't until my first tozan, seeing the Dai-Gohonzon, that I came
to life. <--- #7. Greenie
greenie
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7). RC comments: Well, maybe so; but, re. the subject, just exactly in
what/ which life condition did you "come to life"?! LOL.
IOW - just where do you think you are/ were seated, which section in the
imaginary American theater or Chicago Auditorium Theatre of the "Ten
Worlds," Dr. GreenG?! LOL.
Answer - Obviously, there in the Green Section - reserved for all the
Buddhas, "on the old front row"! - old "Miller Lite Beer" tv ad
commercial's Bob Yeucker joke. ROTFL.
blackpearlviper
> This is additional information to RC (my) postings on 12/08/01, 4:25am &
> 2:51pm CST; x-ref. to GreenGables posting on 12/08/01, 7:09am CST+6.
>
A few statements from the ten worlds for Stoney in reply to your post December 10th.
1. Stoney your posts are too long.
2. Insults are surrealism.
3. None of your denigrating post on Dec 10th was called for.
4 It didn't work.
5. Is that how you try to teach Buddhism?
6. Because it doesn't work.
7. Change your tactics or words.
8. Use nice words.
9. They work with me.
10. Keep trying.
P.S. Sour grapes because you missed all the fun??
BPV
Reginald Carpenter
Re: "The Ten Worlds" Lecture; 1997 Summer Study Course: Learning!*
To Arbn readers: This is a continuation of "The Ten Worlds Lecture
prepared by the Overseas Bureau for the 1997 Summer Study Course." **
Continuance of lecture:
LEARNING
"The seventh life condition is Learning."
[repeated from last sentence of 11th para.]
"In His Gosho, "The Opening of the Eyes," the Daishonin made
the following reference to the Daijuku Sutra:
"That person will be unable to benefit himself or to benefit others. The
shomon (men of Learning) and the engaku (men of Realization) are like
this." (Ref. : Shinpen, p. 529; MW Vol. 2, p. 88)
The world of Learning describes a life condition in which people derive
great pleasure and satisfaction from scholarly pursuits, theoretical
study and intellectual enrichment from philosophical knowledge.
People in the world of Learning fundamentally represent those who
listened to the voice of the Buddha; in other words, they were the
disciples of the Buddha.
In general, this condition describes those who strive for spiritual and
humanistic self-improvement." [12th para.]
[To be continued]
**Reference: Article published in the Nichiren Shoshu Monthly magazine,
September 1997 issue, Vol. 4 No. 9, page #8. Copyright 1997 by NST. All
rights reserved.
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Re: NST Myogyo-ji: The Daily Gosho Passage, Dec. 7th
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
Date: Tue, Nov 20, 2001, 11:19am
From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter)
The Great Matrixes: Re. from the Ten Worlds to total Ichinen Sanzen!*
To Arbn readers: Re. RC (my) re-posting on 11/09/01, 3:48pm CST, I
changed the subject/ title to:
The Great Matrixes: Re. from the Ten Worlds to total Ichinen Sanzen!*
1) Re. the new subject/ title, by using the posting & thread on the
Daily Gosho Passage for the 7th day of the month, then it can
demonstrate or represent the "Great Matrix" of the 7th world of the Ten
Worlds - Learning, within the "Greater Matrix" of the Ten Worlds &
Mutual Possession of the Ten Worlds, within the "Greatest Matrix" of all
-- the (Jap. ri) theoretical teaching of Ichinen Sanzen which we all
Sutra must be wielded by one courageous in faith. Then, he/ she will be
as strong as a demon armed with an iron staff. I, Nichiren, have
inscribed my life in sumi, so believe in the Gohonzon with your whole
heart. The Buddha's will is the Lotus Sutra, but the soul of Nichiren is
nothing other than Nam-myoho-renge-kyo."**
** from "Reply To Kyo'o" Gosho.
Reference: MWND Vol. 1, p. 119.
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Reposted on 12/17/01
Reginald Carpenter
Re: "The Ten Worlds" Lecture; 1997 Summer Study Course: Learning!*
Date: Mon, Dec 10, 2001, 2:37am
From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter)
A quickie for "Greenie" from Stoney. Re. "GreenGables" posting on
12/09/01, 6:09am CST+6.
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Re: "The Ten Worlds" Lecture; 1997 Summer Study Course: Learning!*
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
Date: Sun, Dec 9, 2001, 6:09am (CST+6) From: xtombr...@aol.com
(greengables)
Thanks for your reply Stoney, but I think it is more three dimensional
or ten dimensional than all that. <---#1. LOL.
1). RC comments: Well, thanks for your reply too; but, since you didn't
indicate just which one of my replies that you are referring to, then I
will just have to ass-ume that you meant both of them! LOL.
"But, I think" that what you think it is compared to what it
really is, as the Three (3) Buddhas - Lord Shakyamuni Buddha, T'ien-t'ai
Buddha & Nichiren Daishonin (True) Buddha say/ taught it is, is so very
much less enlightened "than all that"! LOL.
Un-fortunately, it's too bad for you that you just can't
seem to "get it" correctly and see or visualize the profound concept(s)
involved in the theoretical (Jap. ri) teaching of Ichinen Sanzen that
are manifested in everyday, real life in an environment, even within
some-thing that is used as an analogy or example (theater/ theatre) of
it that you say you studied yourself to get a doctoral degree?!
"That's Incredible"! - old TV show. LOL.
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Reposted on 12/20/01
Reginald Carpenter
Continuance of lecture:
LEARNING
[To be continued]
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