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"Juan Tootreego" <12...@NOTBXpats.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <mff7f.286829$oW2.38769@pd7tw1no>,
> Bl...@bluntville.bl says...
>
>> This is so fucked up.
>
> Their music, their upbringing, or the way they are being used?
>
>> http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1
>>

I think they way they're being used.

As for upbringing, maybe it's time to question why we need a license to
catch a fish, but any pair of tards can produce offspring en masse.

Blunt
Happy round~eye karaoke

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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:32:32 -0700, Juan Tootreego
<12...@NOTBXpats.edu> wrote:

>In article <k4arl15uv0l2g5unq...@4ax.com>,
>repub...@email.com says...

>> A pair of male tards couldn't produce any offspring, similarly a pair
>> of female tards cannot produce any number of offspring.
>>
>> Only a tard would fail to realise that.
>>
>> Have a nice day now
>> PPCB
>
>And only a tard would think that I wouldn't notice you snecking
>asatru, nazi-boi.

Hey Juan, you steel focking your seester?

Will

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I invite other Asatruar to add their own links, which I will then combine.
I would also appreciate info on failed links.
If anyone has objections to any site or org then mail me with precise details.

Note that listed here are only a fraction of the available resources.
However, enough should exist here to enable you to find what I omit.

There is also a copy of this on my site at

http://www.neopax.com/asatru/AsatruResources.TXT

feel free to link to it if you're feeling lazy.

Also, this information can be copied/used in any way by anyone. I claim no
copyright over this list nor any intellectual property rights.

Mailing lists:

Magazines

http://www.odinic-rite.org/orbonline.html *magazine section of Odinic Rite
http://www.northvegr.org/leidstjarna/index.html *Journal of the Northern Star
http://www.northvegr.org/leidstjarna/haust2003/index.php
AFA_Bearcla...@yahoogroups.com *Bearclaw mailed from the AFA

Organisations:

http://www.ormswald.org.uk/ *Ormswald Cultural Sanctuary and Hof
http://www.odinistfellowship.co.uk/ *The Odinist Fellowship
http://www.heathensforprogress.tk/ *UK pressure group for official Heathen
recognition
http://www.neopax.com/nineworlds/index.htm *Nine Worlds - a universal SIG for
Heathen mystical/shamanic work

http://www.kithofyggdrasil.org *Kith of Yggdrasil (UK)
http://www.odinic-rite.org/ *The Odinic Rite
http://www.runestone.org/ *Asatru Folk Assembly
http://www.irminsul.org/ *Irminsul Aettir
http://www.ealdriht.org/ *Angelseaxisce Ealdriht Webpage
http://www.thetroth.org/ *The Troth
http://asatru.org *Asatru Alliance
http://www.aetaustralia.org/ *Assembly of the Elder Troth
http://www.friggasweb.org *Frigga's web
http://atschool.eduweb.co.uk/pbrough/stav/index.html *STAV - martial art
http://www.northvegr.org/ *Northvegr Félag (was Midhnott Sol)
http://www.runegild.org/ *The Rune Gild
http://www.bifrost.no/ *Åsatrufellesskapet Bifrost
http://www.fornsidr.dk/ *Firn Siðr, Ase- og Vanesamfundet i Danmark
http://www.asatrosamfundet.se/ *Sveriges Asatrosamfund
http://www.midgardsweb.f2s.com/ *Midgards Web
http://www.thorshof.org/
http://www.aswynn.co.uk/ *Freya Aswynn
http://www.kami.demon.co.uk/gesithas/ *The English Companions
http://www.vigrid.freeserve.co.uk/ *Wodens Folk (English)
http://www.heathenry.org/ *Norse Heathenry Society
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5346/ *New Zealand Asatru Fellowship
http://www.eldaring.de/content/index.php *German Troth
http://mysite.freeserve.com/ormswald/page1.html *Ormswald Cultural Sanctuary (UK)
http://www.geocities.com/willoftheasatrunation/ *WOTAN, Eire
http://www.irminenschaft.net/ *Irminschaft

Sites:

http://www.neopax.com/asatru/ *Thoughts and photos from my site (Dirk Bruere)
http://www.angelfire.com/on/Wodensharrow/sitemenu.html *Woden's Sharrow
http://www.asatru.nl *Dutch Asatru
http://www.heidendom.nl
http://www.hetrad.nl
http://www.boudicca.de *dedicated to Boudicca, multilingual
http://www.runewebvitki.com/ *Rune study and theory
http://www.bcsupernet.com/users/wodan/ *Wodanesdag Press
http://www.river-wood-samfelag.org
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/4178/asatru/asalink.html *An Asatru
resources list
http://www.geocities.com/athens/forum/5346/ *New Zealand Fellowship
http://www.webcom.com/~lstead/RBValues.html *The Nine Virtues
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7up6c/index.html *Redwolf's Hall
http://members.tripod.com/redwolfs_hall/projectmain.htm *The Union project*
http://www.runenstab.de *German Runesites
http://www.runenring.de
http://www.imperia-europa.org/ *French site, very good technically
http://www.webcom.com/~lstead/Ravenbok.html *Raven kindred
http://www.ahnensitte.net/ * Ahnensitte (V. Wagner)
http://www.geocities.com/osred/ *Odinism Australia
http://www.angelfire.com/in2/iac/ *Indiana Asatru Council
http://www.heidendom.nl/ *Netherlands
http://www.arild-hauge.com/ *Norwegian site
http://groups.msn.com/ASATRU
http://home.earthlink.net/~wodensharrow/asatro.html *Wodensharrow, also the link
below
http://home.earthlink.net/~norsemyths/norsemyths.html *Pictures of the Gods -
excellent

Other:
http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ *Viking lore, customs, culture - and she
answers questions!
http://www.geocities.com/hgraw/Nanagoat0.html *Poems and stories for young children
http://www.runegild.org/runaraven1.html *Runa Raven Press
http://www.oxfordancestors.com *Genetic profiling on male and female lines
http://www.jelldragon.com *Excellent British source of Heathen goods
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/OMACL/ *Online Medieval And Classical Resources
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/mythlinks.html *Germanic myths and legends
http://www.asatru.is/ *Asatru in Iceland
http://asatru.org/wrldtree.htm *World Tree Publications
http://www.solorb.com/gfc/mead//mead.html *Mead
http://www.midhnottsol.org/dictionary/index.html *An Asatru Dictionary
http://www.undernet.org /join #Asatru, IRC Undernet Chat
http://www.irminsul.org/ru/ru.html *Runelore
http://www.europaltd.com/ *Ritual items for sale
http://members.aol.com/cbsunny/ *Mostly Runes, a good treatment!
http://www.geocities.com/folkway_tradehall/index.html *Folkway Tradehall
http://www.kami.demon.co.uk/gesithas/runes/fonts.html *Runic fonts
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/1557/fonts1.htm *Runic and other fonts
http://huginn.ealdriht.org/ *Asatru Search Engine - find it here!
http://www.calontirtrim.com/ *Patterned trims for clothing
http://www.eddan.net/ *Eddas set to music - Wagnerian, excellent!
http://www.stores.ebay.com/magicalrealistgallery
http://www.primrun.is/ *Icelandic artist
http://www.tarahill.com/ *tara Hill designs, from soap to Runes
http://www.odinlives.org/ *Radio Asatru
http://pagan-things.com/ *er... pagan things
http://haligwaerstow.ealdriht.org/counseling/index.html *Heathen counseling

Juan Tootreego wrote:
> In article <mff7f.286829$oW2.38769@pd7tw1no>,
> Bl...@bluntville.bl says...
>
>
>>This is so fucked up.
>
>
> Their music, their upbringing, or the way they are being used?
>
>
>>http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1
>>

>>I wonder if MuchMusic will have them in this weeks countdown.
>>
>>Blunt
>>'Rollin down the river'
>>
>>
>>

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org

Dirk Bruere at Neopax

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Juan Tootreego wrote:

> In article <k4arl15uv0l2g5unq...@4ax.com>,
> repub...@email.com says...
>
>
>>On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:07:53 GMT, "Blunt" <Bl...@bluntville.bl> wrote:
>>
>>

>>A pair of male tards couldn't produce any offspring, similarly a pair
>>of female tards cannot produce any number of offspring.
>>
>>Only a tard would fail to realise that.
>>
>>Have a nice day now
>>PPCB
>
>
> And only a tard would think that I wouldn't notice you snecking
> asatru, nazi-boi.

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Juan Tootreego wrote:
>
> Only when her b/f can't get her off and leaves her high and dry

If you've received this on a newgroups where it appears to be
off topic, feel free to thank the person who started the thread
rather than blaming the victim. You'll be tempted to say "Do
not feed the trolls" and complain at this posting rather than
at the ones it is in response to. Unfortunately the person
(plus sock puppets) who started the thread and/or who started
the cross posting is not a troll but an obessive. Trying to
react with tactics that work on trolls fails in this case.

In the long run it's been necessary to take an approach of
battling "silent affirms consent". Let a lunatic attack Asatru,
the result will be a few adherents posting material that shows
the value in that which is being attacked rather than silent
aquiessence. Asatru is not a prostiletizing religion, but the
last thing Bertie and his sock puppets want is for the word to
get out that we have lessons of value on an assortment of
current topics. And so I offer the epic poem called The Havamal.
It is supposed to have been dictated by Odin. Maybe so, maybe
the attribution is used so folks put more value on the
statements of how to live one's life. There are only a few
religions in the world that claim biblical inerrancy and Asatru
is not one of them, so draw your own conclusions about the
material.

Folks wishing to find the Havamal on-line can start with a search:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=havamal+URL&btnG=Google+Search

The Havamal is the pragmatic wisdom of the ancient north. It
deals with topics ranging from maintaining friendships and
drinking moderately through encouraging literacy.

For folks who accuse Asatru of racism, try explaining the fact
that Thor is the result of a racially mixed union.

For folks who accuse Asatru of naziism, try explaining the fact
that runesters were sent to the camps during the 1930s.

For folks who call Asatru anti-semitic, consider that Judaism is
a folkish religion that has survived millenia of suppression and
as such it has many lessons to be learned from.

Here's one of the translations that is available on-line. It
is curtesy of the Northvegr Foundation.

Havamal

The High One´s Lay

1. All door-ways,
before going forward,
should be looked to;
for difficult it is to know
where foes may sit
within a dwelling.

2. Givers, hail!
A guest is come in:
where shall he sit?
In much hast is he,
who on the ways has
to try his luck.

3. Fire is needful
to him who is come in,
and whose knees are frozen;
food and rainment
a man requires,
who o'er the fell has travelled.

4. Water to him is needful
who for refection comes,
a towel and hospitable invitation,
a good reception;
if he can get it,
discourse and answer.

5. Wit is needful
to him who travels far:
at home all is easy.
A laughing-stock is he
who nothing knows,
and with the instructed sits.

6. Of his understanding
no one should be proud,
but rather in conduct cautious.
When the prudent and taciturn
come to a dwelling,
harm seldom befalls the cautious;
for a firmer friend
no man ever gets
than great sagacity.

7. A way guest
who to refection comes,
keeps a cautious silence,
(Or/Wit is needful
to him who travels far:
harm seldom befalls the wary;)
with his hears listens,
and with his eyes observes:
so explores every prudent man.

8. He is happy,
who for himself obtains
fame and kind words:
less sure is that
which a man must have
in another's breast.

9. He is happy,
who in himself possesses
fame and wit while living;
for bad counsels
have oft been received
from another's breast.

10. A better burthen
no man bears on the way
than much good sense;
that is thought better than riches
in a strange place;
such is the recourse of the indigent.

11. A worse provision
on the way he cannot carry
than too much beer-bibbing;
so good is not,
as it is said,
beer for the sons of men.

12. A worse provision
no man can take from table
than too much beer-bibbing:
for the more he drinks
the less control he has
of his own mind.

13. Oblivion's heron 'tis called
that over potations hovers,
he steals the minds of men.
With this bird's pinions
I was fettered
in Gunnlöds dwelling.

14. Drunk I was,
I was over-drunk,
at that cunning Fjalar's.
It's the best drunkenness,
when every one after it
regains his reason.

15. Taciturn and prudent,
and in war daring
should a king's children be;
joyous and liberal
every one should be
until the hour of his death.

16. A cowardly man
thinks he will ever live,
if warfare he avoids;
but old age will
give him no peace,
though spears may spare him.

17. A fool gapes
when to a house he comes,
to himself mutters or is silent;
but all at once,
if he gets drink,
then is the man's mind displayed.

18. He alone knows
who wanders wide,
and has much experienced,
by what disposition
each man is ruled,
who common sense possesses.

19. Let a man hold the cup,
yet of the mead drink moderately,
speak sensibly or be silent.
As of a fault
no man will admonish thee,
if thou goest betimes to sleep.

20. A greedy man,
if he be not moderate,
eats to his mortal sorrow.
Oftentimes his belly
draws laughter on a silly man,
who among the prudent comes.

21. Cattle know
when to go home,
and then from grazing cease;
but a foolish man
never knows
his stomach's measure.

22. A miserable man,
and ill-conditioned,
sneers at every thing;
one thing he knows not,
which he ought to know,
that he is not free from faults.

23. A foolish man
is all night awake,
pondering over everything;
he than grows tired;
and when morning comes,
all is lament as before.

24. A foolish man
thinks all who on him smile
to be his friends;
he feels it not,
although they speak ill of him,
when he sits among the clever.

25. A foolish man
thinks all who speak him fair
to be his friends;
but he will find,
if into court he comes,
that he has few advocates.

26. A foolish man
thinks he know everything
if placed in unexpected difficulty;
but he knows not
what to answer,
if to the test he is put.

27. A foolish man,
who among people comes,
had best be silent;
for no one knows
that he knows nothing,
unless he talks to much.
He who previously knew nothing
will still know nothing
talk he ever so much.

28. He thinks himself wise,
who can ask questions
and converse also;
conceal his ignorance
no one can,
because it circulates among men.

29. He utters too many
futile words
who is never silent;
a garrulous tongue,
if it be not checked,
sings often to its own harm.

30. For a gazing-stock
no man shall have another,
although he come a stranger to his house.
Many a one thinks himself wise,
if he is not questioned,
and can sit in a dry habit.

31. Clever thinks himself
the guest who jeers a guest,
if he takes to flight.
Knows it not certainly
he who prates at meat,
whether he babbles among foes.

32. Many men
are mutually well-disposed,
yet at table will torment each other.
That strife will ever be;
guest will guest irritate.

33. Early meals
a man should often take,
unless to a friend's house he goes;
else he will sit and mope,
will seem half-famished,
and can of few things inquire.

34. Long is and indirect the way
to a bad friend's,
though by the road he dwell;
but to a good friend's
the paths lie direct,
though he be far away.

35. A guest should depart,
not always stay
in one place.
The welcome becomes unwelcome,
if he too long continues
in another's house.

36. One's own house is best,
small though it be;
at home is every one his own master.
Though he but two goats possess,
and a straw-thatched cot,
even that is better than begging.

37. One's own house is best,
small though it be,
at home is every one his own master.
Bleeding at heart is he,
who has to ask
for food at every meal-tide.

38. Leaving in the field his arms,
let no man go
a foot's length forward;
for it is hard to know
when on the way
a man may need his weapon.

39. I have never found a
man so bountiful,
or so hospitable
that he refused a present;
of his property
so liberal
that he scorned a recompense.

40. Of the property
which he has gained
no man should suffer need;
for the hated oft is spared
what for the dear was destined.
Much goes worse than is expected.

41. With arms and vestments
friends should each other gladden,
those which are in themselves most sightly.
Givers and requiters
are longest friends,
if all (else) goes well.

42. To his friend
a man should be a friend,
and gifts with gifts requite.
Laughter with laughter
men should receive,
but leasing with lying.

43. To his friend
a man should be a friend,
to him and to his friend;
but of his foe
no man shall
the friend's friend be.

44. Know, if thou has a friend
whom thou fully trustest,
and from whom thou woulds't good derive,
thou shouldst blend thy mind with his,
and gifts exchange,
and often go to see him.

45. If thou hast another,
whom thou little trustest,
yet wouldst good from him derive,
thou shouldst speak him fair,
but think craftily,
and leasing pay with lying.

46. But of him yet further,
whom thou little trustest,
and thou suspectest his affection;
before him thou shouldst laugh,
and contrary to thy thoughts speak:
requital should the gift resemble.

47. I was once young,
I was journeying alone,
and lost my way;
rich I thought myself,
when I met another.
Man is the joy of man.

48. Liberal and brave men live best,
they seldom cherish sorrow;
but a base-minded man
dreads everything;
the niggardly is uneasy even at gifts.

49. My garments in a field
I gave away
to two wooden men:
heroes they seemed to be,
when they got cloaks:
exposed to insult is a naked man.

50. A tree withers
that on a hill-top stands;
protects it neither bark nor leaves:
such is the man
whom no one favours:
why should he live long?

51. Hotter than fire
love for five days burns
between false friends;
but is quenched
when the sixth day comes,
and friendship is all impaired.

52. Something great
is not (always) to be given,
praise is often for a trifle bought.
With half a loaf
and a tilted vessel
I got myself a comrade.

53. Little are the sandgrains,
little the wits,
little the minds of (some) men;
for all men
are not wise alike:
men are everywhere by halves.

54. Moderately wise
should each one be,
but never over-wise:
of those men
the lives are fairest,
who know much well.

55. Moderately wise
should each one be,
but never over-wise;
for a wise man's heart
is seldom glad,
if he is all-wise who owns it.

56. Moderately wise
should each one be,
but never over-wise.
His destiny let know
no man beforehand;
his mind will be freest from care.

57. Brand burns from brand
until it is burnt out;
fire is from fire quickened.
Man to man
becomes known by speech,
but a fool by his bashful silence.

58. He should early rise,
who another's property or life
desires to have.
Seldom a sluggish wolf
gets prey,
or a sleeping man victory.

59. Early should rise
he who has few workers,
and go his work to see to;
greatly is he retarded
who sleeps the morn away.
Wealth half depends on energy.

60. Of dry planks
and roof-shingles
a man knows the measure;
of the fire-wood
that may suffice,
both measure and time.

61. Washed and refected
let a man ride to the Thing,
although his garments be not too good;
of his shoes and breeches
let no one be ashamed,
nor of his horse,
although he have not a good one.

62. Inquire and impart
should every man of sense,
who will be accounted sage.
Let one only know,
a second may not;
if three, all the world knows.

63. Gasps and gapes,
when to the sea he comes,
the eagles over old ocean;
so is a man,
who among many comes,
and has few advocates.

64. His power should
every sagacious man
use with discretion;
for he will find,
when among the bold he comes,
that no one alone is the doughtiest.

65. Circumspect and reserved
every man should be,
and wary in trusting friends.
Of the words
that a man says to another
he often pays the penalty.

66. Much too early
I came to many places,
but too late to others;
the beer was drunk,
or not ready:
the disliked seldom hits the moment.

67. Here and there I should
have been invited,
if I a meal had needed;
or two hams had hung,
at that true friend's,
where of one I had eaten.

68. Fire is best
among the sons of men,
and the sight of the sun,
if his health
a man can have,
with a life free from vice.

69. No man lacks everything,
although his health be bad:
one in his sons is happy,
one in abundant wealth,
one in his good works.

70. It is better to live,
even to live miserably;
a living man can always get a cow.
I saw fire consume
the rich man's property,
and death stood without his door.

71. The halt can ride on horseback,
the one-handed drive cattle;
the deaf fight and be useful:
to be blind is better
than to be burnt:
no ones gets good from a corpse.

72. A son is better,
even if born late,
after his father's departure.
Gravestones seldom
stand by the way-side
unless raised by a kinsman to a kinsman.

73. Two are adversaries:
the tongue is the bane of the head:
under every cloak
I expect a hand.

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74. At night is joyful
he who is sure of travelling enjoyment.
(A ship's yards are short.)
Variable is an autumn night.
Many are the weather's changes
in five days,
but more in a month.

75. He (only) knows not
who knows nothing,
that many a one apes another.
One man is rich,
another poor:
let him not be thought blameworthy.

76. Cattle die,
kindred die,
we ourselves also die;
but the fair fame
never dies
of him who has earned it.

77. Cattle die,
kindred die,
we ourselves also die;
but I know one thing
that never dies, -
judgement on each one dead.

78. Full storehouses I saw
at Dives' sons':
now bear they the beggar's staff.
Such are riches;
as is the twinkling of an eye:
of friends they are most fickle.

79. A foolish man,
if he acquires
wealth or a woman's love,
pride grows within him,
but wisdom never:
he goes on more and more arrogant.

80. Then 'tis made manifest,
if of runes thou questionest him,
those to the high ones known,
which the great powers invented,
and the great talker painted,
that he had best hold silence.

81. At eve the day is to be praised,
a woman after she is burnt,
a sword after it is proved,
a maid after she is married,
ice after it has passed away,
beer after it is drunk.

82. In the wind one should hew wood,
in a breeze row out to sea,
in the dark talk with a lass:
many are the eyes of day.
In a ship voyages are to be made,
but a shield is for protection,
a sword for striking,
but a damsel for a kiss.

83. By the fire one should drink beer,
on the ice slide;
but a horse that is lean,
a sword that is rusty;
feed a horse at home,
but a dog at the farm.

84. In a maiden's words
no one should place faith,
nor in what a woman says;
for on a turning wheel
have their hearts been formed,
and guile in their breasts been laid;

85. in a creaking bow,
a burning flame,
a yawning wolf,
a chattering crow,
a grunting swine,
a rootless tree,
a waxing wave,
a boiling kettle,

86. a flying dart,
a falling billow,
a one night's ice,
a coiled serpent,
a woman's bed-talk,
or a broken sword,
a bear's play,
or a royal child,

87. a sick calf,
a self-willed thrall,
a flattering prophetess,
a corpse newly slain,
(a serene sky,
a laughing lord,
a barking dog,
and a harlot's grief);

88. an early sown field
let no one trust,
nor prematurely in a son:
weather rules the field,
and wit the son,
each of which is doubtful;

89. a brother's murderer,
though on the high road met,
a half-burnt house,
an over-swift horse,
(a horse is useless,
if a leg be broken),
no man is so confiding
as to trust any of these.

90. Such is the love of women,
who falsehood meditate,
as if one drove not rough-shod,
on slippery ice,
a spirited tw0-years old
and unbroken horse;
or as in a raging storm
a helmless ship is beaten;
or as if the halt were set to catch
a reindeer in the thawing fell.

91. Openly I now speak,
because I both sexes know:
unstable are men's minds towards women;
'tis then we speak most fair
when we most falsely think:
that deceives even the cautious.

92. Fair shall speak,
and money offer,
who would obtain a woman's love.
Praise the form
of a fair damsel;
he gets who courts her.

93. At love should no one
ever wonder
in another:
a beauteous countenance
oft captivates the wise,
which captivates not the foolish.

94. Let no one wonder at
another's folly,
it is the lot of many.
All-powerful desire
makes of the sons of men
fools even of the wise.

95. The mind only knows
what lies near the heart,
that alone is conscious of our affections.
No disease is worse
to a sensible man
than not to be content with himself.

96. That I experienced,
when in the reeds I sat,
awaiting my delight.
Body and soul to me
was that discreet maiden:
nevertheless I posses her not.

97. Billing's lass
on her couch I found,
sun-bright, sleeping.
A prince's joy
to me seemed naught,
if not with that form to live.

98. "Yet nearer eve
must thou, Odin, come,
if thou wilt talk the maiden over;
all will be disastrous,
unless we alone
are privy to such misdeed."

99. I returned,
thinking to love,
at her wise desire.
I thought
I should obtain
her whole heart and love.

100. When next I came
the bold warriors were
all awake,
with lights burning,
and bearing torches:
thus was the way to pleasure closed.

101. But at the approach of morn,
when again I came,
the household all was sleeping;
the good damsel's dog
alone I found
tied to the bed.

102. Many a fair maiden,
when rightly known,
towards men is fickle:
that I experienced,
when that discreet maiden I
strove to seduce:
contumely of every kind
that wily girl
heaped upon me;
nor of that damsel gained I aught.

103. At home let a man be cheerful,
and towards a guest liberal;
of wise conduct he should be,
of good memory and ready speech;
if much knowledge he desires,
he must often talk on good.

104. Fimbulfambi he is called
who little has to say:
such is the nature of the simple.

*************************

105. The old Jötun I sought;
now I am come back:
little got I there by silence;
in many words
I spoke to my advantage
in Suttung's halls.

106. Gunnlöd gave me,
on her golden seat,
a draught of the precious mead;
a bad recompense
I afterwards made her,
for her whole soul,
her fervent love.

107. Rati's mouth I caused
to make a space,
and to gnaw the rock;
over and under me
were the Jötun's ways:
thus I my head did peril.

108. Of a well-assumed form
I made good use:
few things fail the wise;
for Odhrærir
is now come up
to men's earthly dwellings.

109. 'Tis to me doubtful
that I could have come
from the Jötun's courts,
had not Gunnlöd aided me,
that good damsel,
over whom I laid my arm.

110. On the day following
came the Hrim-thursar,
to learn something of the High One,
in the High One's hall:
after Bölverk they inquired,
whether he with the gods were come,
or Suttung had destroyed him?

111. Odin, I believe,
a ring-oath gave.
Who in his faith will trust?
Suttung defrauded,
of his drink bereft,
and Gunnlöd made to weep!

****************************

112. Time 'tis to discourse
from the preacher's chair. -
By the well of Urd
I silent sat,
I saw and meditated,
I listened to men's words.

113. Of runes I heard discourse,
and of things divine,
nor of graving them were they silent,
nor of sage counsels,
at the High One's hall.
In the High One's hall.
I thus heard say:

114. I counsel thee, Loddfafnir,
to take advise:
thou wilt profit if thou takest it.
Rise not a night,
unless to explore,
or art compelled to go out.

115. I counsel thee, Loddfafnir,
to take advice,
thou wilt profit if thou takest it.
In an enchantress's embrace
thou mayest not sleep,
so that in her arms she clasp thee.

116. She will be the cause
that thou carest not
for Thing or prince's words;
food thou wilt shun
and human joys;
sorrowful wilt thou go to sleep.

117. I counsel thee, etc.
Another's wife
entice thou never
to secret converse.

118. I counsel thee, etc.
By fell or firth
if thou have to travel,
provide thee well with food.

119. I counsel thee, etc.
A bad man
let thou never
know thy misfortunes;
for from a bad man
thou never wilt obtain
a return for thy good will.

120. I saw mortally
wound a man
a wicked woman's words;
a false tongue
caused his death,
and most unrighteously.

121. I counsel thee, etc.
If thou knowest thou has a friend,
whom thou well canst trust,
go oft to visit him;
for with brushwood overgrown,
and with high grass,
is the way that no one treads.

122. I counsel thee, etc. -
A good man attract to thee
in pleasant converse;
and salutary speech learn while thou livest.

123. I counsel thee, etc.
With thy friend
be thou never
first to quarrel.
Care gnaws the heart,
if thou to no one canst
thy whole mind disclose.

124. I counsel thee, etc.
Words thou never
shouldst exchange
with a witless fool;

125. for from an ill-conditioned man
thou wilt never get
a return for good;
but a good man will
bring thee favour
by his praise.

126. There is a mingling of affection,
where one can tell
another all his mind.
Everything is better
than being with the deceitful.
He is not another's friend
who ever says as he says.

127. I counsel thee, etc.
Even in three words
quarrel not with a worse man:
often the better yields,
when the worse strikes.

128. I counsel thee, etc.
Be not a shoemaker,
nor a shaftmaker,
unless for thyself it be;
for a shoe if ill made,
or a shaft if crooked,
will call down evil on thee.

129. I counsel thee, etc.
Wherever of injury thou knowest,
regard that injury as thy own;
and give to thy foes no peace.

130. I counsel thee, etc.
Rejoiced at evil
be thou never;
but let good give thee pleasure.

131. I counsel thee, etc.
In a battle
look not up,
(like swine
the sons of men become)
that men may not fascinate thee.

132. If thou wilt induce a good woman
to pleasant converse,
thou must promise fair,
and hold to it;
no one turns from good if it can be got.

133. I enjoin thee to be wary,
but not over wary;
at drinking be thou most wary,
and with another's wife;
and thirdly,
that thieves delude thee not.

134. With insult or derision
treat thou never
a guest or wayfarer,
they often little know,
who sit within,
or what race they are who come.

135. Vices and virtues
the sons of mortals bear
in their breasts mingled;
no one is so good
that no failing attends him,
nor so bad as to be good for nothing.

136. At a hoary speaker
laugh thou never;
often is good that which the aged utter,
oft from a shriveled hide
discreet words issue;
from those whose skin is pendent
and decked with scars,
and who go tottering among the vile.

137. I counsel thee, etc.
Rail not at a guest,
nor from thy gate thrust him;
treat well the indigent;
they will speak well of thee.

138. Strong is the bar
that must be raised
to admit all.
Do thou give a penny,
or they will call down on thee
every ill in thy limbs.

139. I counsel thee, etc.
Wherever thou beer drinkest,
invoke to thee the power of earth;
for earth is good against drink,
fire for distempers,
the oak for constipation,
a corn-ear for sorcery
a hall for domestic strife.
In bitter hates invoke the moon;
the biter for bite-injuries is good;
but runes against calamity;
fluid let earth absorb.

*****************************

RunatalsÞáttr Oðins.

Odin´s Rune-song.

140. I know that I hung,
on a wind-rocked tree,
nine whole nights,
with a spear wounded,
and to Odin offered,
myself to myself;
on that tree,
of which no one knows
from what root it springs.

141. Bread no one gave me,
nor a horn of drink,
downward I peered,
to runes applied myself,
wailing learnt them,
then fell down thence.

142. Potent songs nine
from the famed son I learned
of Bölthorn, Bestla's sire,
and a draught obtained
of the precious mead,
drawn from Odhrærir.

143. Then I began to bear fruit,
and to know many things,
to grow and well thrive:
word by word
I sought out words,
fact by fact
I sought out facts.

144. Runes thou wilt find,
and explained characters,
very large characters,
very potent characters,
which the great speaker depicted,
and the high powers formed,
and the powers' prince graved:

145. Odin among the Æsir,
but among the Alfar, Dáin,
and Dvalin for the dwarfs,
Ásvid for the Jötuns:
some I myself graved.

146. Knowest thou how to grave them?
knowest thou how to expound them?
knowest thou how to depict them?
knowest thou how to prove them?
knowest thou how to pray?
knowest thou how to offer?
knowest thou how to send?
knowest thou how to consume?

147. 'Tis better not to pray
than too much offer;
a gift ever looks to a return.
'Tis better not to send
than too much consume.
So Thund graved
before the origin of men,
where he ascended,
to whence he afterwards came.

148. Those songs I know
which the king's wife knows not
nor son of man.
Help the first is called,
for that will help thee
against strifes and cares.

149. For the second I know,
what the sons of men require,
who will as leeches live.

***********************
***********************
***********************

150. For the third I know,
if I have great need
to restrain my foes,
the weapons' edge I deaden:
of my adversaries
nor arms nor wiles harm aught.

151. For the forth I know,
if men place
bonds on my limbs,
I so sing
that I can walk;
the fetter starts from my feet,
and the manacle from my hands.

152. For the fifth I know,
I see a shot from a hostile hand,
a shaft flying amid the host,
so swift it cannot fly
that I cannot arrest it,
if only I get sight of it.

153. For the sixth I know,
if one wounds me
with a green tree's roots;
also if a man
declares hatred to me,
harm shall consume them sooner than me.

154. For the seventh I know,
if a lofty house I see
blaze o'er its inmates,
so furiously it shall not burn
that I cannot save it.
That song I can sing.

155. For the eighth I know,
what to all is
useful to learn:
where hatred grows
among the sons of men -
that I can quickly assuage.

156. For the ninth I know,
if I stand in need
my bark on the water to save,
I can the wind
on the waves allay,
and the sea lull.

157. For the tenth I know,
if I see troll-wives
sporting in air,
I can so operate
that they will forsake
their own forms,
and their own minds.

158. For the eleventh I know,
if I have to lead
my ancient friends to battle,
under their shields I sing,
and with power they go
safe to the fight,
safe from the fight;
safe on every side they go.

159. For the twelfth I know,
if on a tree I see
a corpse swinging from a halter,
I can so grave
and in runes depict,
that the man shall walk,
and with me converse.

160. For the thirteenth I know,
if on a young man
I sprinkle water,
he shall not fall,
though he into battle come:
that man shall not sink before swords.

161. For the fourteenth I know,
if in the society of men
I have to enumerate the gods,
Æsir and Alfar,
I know the distinctions of all.
This few unskilled can do.

162. For the fifteenth I know
what the dwarf Thiodreyrir sang
before Delling's doors.
Strength he sang to the Æsir,
and to the Alfar prosperity,
wisdom to Hroptatýr.

163. For the sixteenth I know,
if a modest maiden's favour and affection
I desire to possess,
the soul I change
of the white-armed damsel,
and wholly turn her mind.

164. For the seventeenth I know,
that that young maiden will
reluctantly avoid me.
These songs, Loddfafnir!
thou wilt long have lacked;
yet it may be good if thou understandest them,
profitable if thou learnest them.

165. For the eighteenth I know
that which I never teach
to maid or wife of man,
(all is better
what one only knows.
This is the closing of the songs)
save her alone
who claspsme in her arms,
or is my sister.

166. Now are sung the
High-one's songs,
in the High-one's hall,
to the sons of men all-useful,
but useless to the Jötun's sons.
Hail to him who has sung them!

Hail to him who knows them!
May he profit who has learnt them!
Hail to hose who have listened to them!

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> You need to reacquire your target - he's over in
> alt.religion.asatru, and was trying to be clever with his
> followups.

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Of how Signy sent the Children of her and Siggeir to Sigmund

Now when Sigmund is loosed and the stocks are broken, he dwells in the
woods and holds himself there; but Signy sends yet again to wot of the
tidings, whether Sigmund were alive or no; but when those who were
sent came to him, he told them all as it had betid, and how things had
gone betwixt him and the wolf; so they went home and tell Signy the
tidings; but she goes and finds her brother, and they take counsel in
such wise as to make a house underground in the wild-wood; and so
things go on a while, Signy hiding him there, and sending him such
things as he needed; but King Siggeir deemed that all the Volsungs
were dead.

Now Siggeir had two sons by his wife, whereof it is told that when the
eldest was ten winters old, Signy sends him to Sigmund, so that he
might give him help, if he would in any wise strive to avenge his
father; so the youngling goes to the wood, and comes late in
evening-tide to Sigmund's earth-house; and Sigmund welcomed him in
seemly fashion, and said that he should make ready their bread; "But
I," said he, "will go seek firewood."

Therewith he gives the meal-bag into his hands while he himself went
to fetch firing; but when he came back the youngling had done naught
at the bread-making. Then asks Sigmund if the bread be ready --

Says the youngling, "I durst not set hand to the meal sack, because
somewhat quick lay in the meal."

Now Sigmund deemed he wotted that the lad was of no such heart as that
he would be fain to have him for his fellow; and when he met his
sister, Sigmund said that he had come no nigher to the aid of a man
though the youngling were with him.

Then said Signy, "Take him and kill him then; for why should such an
one live longer?" and even so he did.

So this winter wears, and the next winter Signy sent her next son to
Sigmund; and there is no need to make a long tale thereof, for in like
wise went all things, and he slew the child by the counsel of Signy.

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>
>
>>Phaethon <wednesda...@3.am> wrote in
>>news:2oqtl1dpflu1ls84c...@4ax.com:
>>
>>
>>>On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:33:18 -0500, Virgil
>>><pearlsbe...@gmail.NOSPAM.com> babbled on and on about
>>>
>>>
>>>>Phaethon <wednesda...@3.am> wrote in
>>>>news:ks9rl1tkbdb8su486...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:46:10 GMT, "Blunt" <Bl...@bluntville.bl>
>>>>>babbled on and on about
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>This is so fucked up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1
>>>>>
>>>>>I somehow doubt they (and their ilk) are converting anyone, though
>>>>>I'm sure there's a ready-made audience out there. f
>>>>
>>>>They're all the rage at stormfront.org. It's a jaw-droppingly fucked
>>>>up-- and busy-- board.
>>>
>>>
>>>I couldn't help but notice the seasonal theme, scarecrow and pumpkin
>>>at the top of the page. I almost wanted to call the wife and kids in
>>>to browse with me.
>>>
>>>The amount of traffic there is astounding. But hey, if they're busy
>>>posting in there it ought to keep them off the streets, anyway.
>>
>>Yeah the pumpkin's a nice touch ain't it? Everything's a zionist front to
>>them, but what's really fascinating is the infighting over the silliest
>>shit. There's even a thread where people posted their pics to be analyzed
>>as to what sub-category of white they were; Nordic, Alpine and some other
>>weird pseudo-scientific shit. Nutjobs.
>
>
> I bet the nazi-bois over at ara could offer sage advice. I bet
> most of 'em are members....

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> babbled on and on about
>

>>Juan Tootreego wrote:
>>>
>>> You need to reacquire your target - he's over in
>>> alt.religion.asatru, and was trying to be clever with his
>>> followups.
>>
>>If you've received this on a newgroups where it appears to be
>>off topic, feel free to thank the person who started the thread
>>rather than blaming the victim. You'll be tempted to say "Do
>>not feed the trolls" and complain at this posting rather than
>>at the ones it is in response to. Unfortunately the person
>>(plus sock puppets) who started the thread and/or who started
>>the cross posting is not a troll but an obessive. Trying to
>>react with tactics that work on trolls fails in this case.
>>
>

> <snip the pap>
> When do we drink the Kool-Aid?

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> On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:44:14 -0700, Juan Tootreego <12...@NOTBXpats.edu>

> babbled on and on about
>
>

>>In article <Xns96FBBE1589A8...@216.196.97.131>,
>>pearlsbe...@gmail.NOSPAM.com says...
>>
>>
>>>Phaethon <wednesda...@3.am> wrote in
>>>news:2oqtl1dpflu1ls84c...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:33:18 -0500, Virgil
>>>><pearlsbe...@gmail.NOSPAM.com> babbled on and on about
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Phaethon <wednesda...@3.am> wrote in
>>>>>news:ks9rl1tkbdb8su486...@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:46:10 GMT, "Blunt" <Bl...@bluntville.bl>

>>>>>>babbled on and on about
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

>>>>>>>This is so fucked up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I somehow doubt they (and their ilk) are converting anyone, though
>>>>>>I'm sure there's a ready-made audience out there. f
>>>>>
>>>>>They're all the rage at stormfront.org. It's a jaw-droppingly fucked
>>>>>up-- and busy-- board.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I couldn't help but notice the seasonal theme, scarecrow and pumpkin
>>>>at the top of the page. I almost wanted to call the wife and kids in
>>>>to browse with me.
>>>>
>>>>The amount of traffic there is astounding. But hey, if they're busy
>>>>posting in there it ought to keep them off the streets, anyway.
>>>
>>>Yeah the pumpkin's a nice touch ain't it? Everything's a zionist front to
>>>them, but what's really fascinating is the infighting over the silliest
>>>shit. There's even a thread where people posted their pics to be analyzed
>>>as to what sub-category of white they were; Nordic, Alpine and some other
>>>weird pseudo-scientific shit. Nutjobs.
>>
>>I bet the nazi-bois over at ara could offer sage advice. I bet
>>most of 'em are members....
>
>

> heh, asatru.
> Which comic book did that originate in?

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Of the Birth of Sinfjotli the Son of Sigmund

So on a tide it befell as Signy sat in her bower, that there came to
her a witch-wife exceeding cunning, and Signy talked with her in such
wise, "Fain am I," says she, "that we should change semblances
together."
She says, "Even as thou wilt then."

And so by her wiles she brought it about that they changed semblances,
and now the witch-wife sits in Signy's place according to her rede,
and goes to bed by the king that night, and he knows not that he has
other than Signy beside him.

But the tale tells of Signy, that she fared to the earthhouse of her
brother, and prayed him give her harbouring for the night; "For I have
gone astray abroad in the woods, and know not whither I am going."

So he said she might abide, and that he would not refuse harbour to
one lone woman, deeming that she would scarce pay back his good cheer
by tale-bearing: so. she came into the house, and they sat down to
meat, and his eyes were often on her, and a goodly and fair woman she
seemed to him; but when they are full, then he says to her, that he is
right fain that they should have but one bed that night; she nowise
turned away therefrom, and so for three nights together he laid her in
bed by him.

Thereafter she fared home, and found the witch-wife and bade her
change semblances again, and she did so.

Now as time wears, Signy brings forth a man-child, who was named
Sinfjotli, and when he grew up he was both big and strong, and fair of
face, and much like unto the kin of the Volsungs, and he was hardly
yet ten winters old when she sent him to Sigmund's earth-house; but
this trial she had made of her other sons or ever she had sent them to
Sigmund, that she had sewed gloves on to their hands through flesh and
skin, and they had borne it ill and cried out thereat; and this she
now did to Sinfjotli, and he changed countenance in nowise thereat.
Then she flayed off the kirtle so that the skin came off with the
sleeves, and said that this would be torment enough for him; but he
said --

"Full little would Volsung have felt such a smart this."

So the lad came to Sigmund, and Sigmund bade him knead their meal up,
while he goes to fetch firing; so he gave him the meal-sack, and then
went after the wood, and by then he came back had Sinfjotli made an
end of his baking. Then asked Sigmund if he had found nothing in the
meal.

"I misdoubted me that there was something quick in the meal when I
first fell to kneading of it, but I have kneaded it all up together,
both the meal and that which was therein, whatsoever it was."

Then Sigmund laughed out, he said --

"Naught wilt thou eat of this bread to-night, for the most deadly of
worms (1) hast thou kneaded up therewith."

Now Sigmund was so mighty a man that he might eat venom and have no
hurt therefrom; but Sinfjotli might abide whatso venom came on the
outside of him, but might neither eat nor drink thereof.

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Blunt wrote:

> Ssssssssssssh! Put on your tin foil hat - they're watching!

It's funny, kinda.

I posted that URL to one of my regular haunts,(Halloween and all) and it
is having simular results there as well.

I think they had the tinfoil with the shiny side in!

Oh yeah,
I have Rory Gallagher's "71" on the spindle, soon to be replaced with
"Thunderbox" by Humble Pie when it drops on the platter.

Steve Marriot is deffinately one of my faves.

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> In article <PwW7f.305289$oW2.182365@pd7tw1no>, Blunt says...

> Shiny side out!

Dirk Bruere at Neopax

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> In article <Xns96FBE6FF0229...@216.196.97.131>,
> Virgil says...
>
>>"Blunt" <Bl...@bluntville.bl> wrote in
>>news:ayW7f.307392$1i.70678@pd7tw2no:
>>
>>
>>>"Virgil" <pearlsbe...@gmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Xns96FADB441492...@216.196.97.131...

>>>
>>>>Phaethon <wednesda...@3.am> wrote in
>>>>news:ks9rl1tkbdb8su486...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:46:10 GMT, "Blunt" <Bl...@bluntville.bl>

>>>>>babbled on and on about
>>>>>
>>>>>

>>>>>>This is so fucked up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1
>>>>>
>>>>>I somehow doubt they (and their ilk) are converting anyone, though
>>>>>I'm sure there's a ready-made audience out there. f
>>>>
>>>>They're all the rage at stormfront.org. It's a jaw-droppingly fucked
>>>>up-- and busy-- board.
>>>

>>>Wow. That's quite the fucking site.
>>>
>>>Blunt
>>>Practicing my German just in case.
>>
>>David Duke's a regular poster there, no big surprise. They're whacked but
>>these guys take the cake; looks like the master race's family tree don't
>>branch:
>>
>>http://www.nsm88.com/photos/congress05/congress05.html
>
>
> Happy Birthday Adolph?
>
> I gotta share this with ara. Lessee if Djirkie tries to claim
> 'no astatru content' on this one....

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> In article <ayW7f.307392$1i.70678@pd7tw2no>, Blunt says...

>
>>"Virgil" <pearlsbe...@gmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>news:Xns96FADB441492...@216.196.97.131...
>>
>>>Phaethon <wednesda...@3.am> wrote in
>>>news:ks9rl1tkbdb8su486...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:46:10 GMT, "Blunt" <Bl...@bluntville.bl>
>>>>babbled on and on about
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>This is so fucked up.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1
>>>>
>>>>I somehow doubt they (and their ilk) are converting anyone, though I'm
>>>>sure there's a ready-made audience out there. f
>>>
>>>They're all the rage at stormfront.org. It's a jaw-droppingly fucked up--
>>>and busy-- board.
>>
>>Wow. That's quite the fucking site.
>>
>>Blunt
>>Practicing my German just in case.
>
>

> "Springtime for Hitler"
> from Mel Brooks' The Producers
>
> Germany was having trouble, what a sad, sad story
> Needed a new leader to restore its former glory
> Where oh where was he? Where could that man be?
> We looked around, and then we found, the man for you and me,
> And now it's ...
>
> Springtime for Hitler and Germany,
> Deutschland is happy and gay.
> We're marching to a faster pace,
> Look out, here comes the master race.
>
> Springtime for Hitler and Germany,
> Winter for Poland and France.
> Springtime for Hitler and Germany,
> Come on, Germans, go into your dance ...
>
> I was born in Dusseldorf, and that is why they call me Rolf.
> Don't be stupid, be a smarty, come and join the Nazi party.
>
> Springtime for Hitler and Germany
> Goose-step's the new step today
> Bombs falling from the skies again,
> Deutschland is on the rise again
>
> Springtime for Hitler and Germany
> U-boats are sailing once more
> Springtime for Hitler and Germany
> Means ... that ... soon we'll be going ...
> We've got to be going ...
> You know we'll be going to ... WAR!

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>In article <3schsgF...@individual.net>, Dirk Bruere at
>Neopax says...

>No answer?
>
>And why are you afraid of alt.revenge?

Perhaps he's heard of the evil Panda.

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> In article <1130442045.444619.46100
> @g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Doug Freyburger says...

>
>
>>Greg Arama wrote:
>>
>>>I think they had the tinfoil with the shiny side in!
>>
>>When a spammer posts on news:alt.religion.asatru, the result
>>will be posted material that shows Asatru content. And so I
>>offer the epic poem called The Havamal.
>
>

> How can a discussion of metal hats be off-topic to vjikings?

>
>
>>Folks wishing to find the Havamal on-line can start with a search:
>>
>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=havamal+URL&btnG=Google+Search
>>
>>The Havamal is the pragmatic wisdom of the ancient north. It
>>deals with topics ranging from maintaining friendships and
>>drinking moderately through encouraging literacy.
>>
>>For folks who accuse Asatru of racism, try explaining the fact
>>that Thor is the result of a racially mixed union.
>>
>>For folks who accuse Asatru of naziism, try explaining the fact
>>that runesters were sent to the camps during the 1930s.
>>
>>For folks who call Asatru anti-semitic, consider that Judaism is
>>a folkish religion that has survived millenia of suppression and
>>as such it has many lessons to be learned from.
>>
>>Here's one of the translations that is available on-line. It
>>is curtesy of the Northvegr Foundation.
>>
>>Havamal
>>

>>The High One=3Fs Lay

>>Odin=3Fs Rune-song.

Dirk Bruere at Neopax

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Juan Tootreego wrote:

> In article <1130443317.219293.120790
> @g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Doug Freyburger says...

>
>
>>Juan Tootreego wrote:
>>
>>>Shiny side out!
>>
>>When a spammer posts on news:alt.religion.asatru, the result
>>will be posted material that shows Asatru content. And so I
>>offer the epic poem called The Havamal.
>
>

> Hey, hey, hey. Another two-fer-one. Y'all are making my job
> too easy.

>
>
>
>>Folks wishing to find the Havamal on-line can start with a search:
>>
>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=havamal+URL&btnG=Google+Search
>>
>>The Havamal is the pragmatic wisdom of the ancient north. It
>>deals with topics ranging from maintaining friendships and
>>drinking moderately through encouraging literacy.
>>
>>For folks who accuse Asatru of racism, try explaining the fact
>>that Thor is the result of a racially mixed union.
>>
>>For folks who accuse Asatru of naziism, try explaining the fact
>>that runesters were sent to the camps during the 1930s.
>>
>>For folks who call Asatru anti-semitic, consider that Judaism is
>>a folkish religion that has survived millenia of suppression and
>>as such it has many lessons to be learned from.
>>
>>Here's one of the translations that is available on-line. It
>>is curtesy of the Northvegr Foundation.
>>
>>Havamal
>>

>>The High One=3Fs Lay

>>Odin=3Fs Rune-song.

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> In article <ca53m1parmlcn0hkb...@4ax.com>,
> Phaethon says...
>
>>On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:54:10 -0700, Juan Tootreego <12...@NOTBXpats.edu>

>>babbled on and on about
>>
>>

>>>In article <Xns96FBE6FF0229...@216.196.97.131>,
>>>Virgil says...
>>>
>>>>"Blunt" <Bl...@bluntville.bl> wrote in
>>>>news:ayW7f.307392$1i.70678@pd7tw2no:
>>>>
>>>>

>>>>>"Virgil" <pearlsbe...@gmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:Xns96FADB441492...@216.196.97.131...
>>>>>

>>>>>>Phaethon <wednesda...@3.am> wrote in
>>>>>>news:ks9rl1tkbdb8su486...@4ax.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:46:10 GMT, "Blunt" <Bl...@bluntville.bl>
>>>>>>>babbled on and on about
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This is so fucked up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I somehow doubt they (and their ilk) are converting anyone, though
>>>>>>>I'm sure there's a ready-made audience out there. f
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They're all the rage at stormfront.org. It's a jaw-droppingly fucked
>>>>>>up-- and busy-- board.
>>>>>

>>>>>Wow. That's quite the fucking site.
>>>>>
>>>>>Blunt
>>>>>Practicing my German just in case.
>>>>

>>>>David Duke's a regular poster there, no big surprise. They're whacked but
>>>>these guys take the cake; looks like the master race's family tree don't
>>>>branch:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.nsm88.com/photos/congress05/congress05.html
>>

>>Looks like their "2005" Congress was in someone's basement.
>
>
> But where are their vjiking helmets?
>
> All good little nazi-bois where vjiking helmets. Its kinda like
> their lodge symbol.

>
>
>>>Happy Birthday Adolph?
>>>
>>>I gotta share this with ara. Lessee if Djirkie tries to claim
>>>'no astatru content' on this one....
>>
>>

Dirk Bruere at Neopax

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Momus

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>On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:18:58 -0700, Juan Tootreego <12...@NOTBXpats.edu>

>babbled on and on about
>

>>In article <3schsgF...@individual.net>, Dirk Bruere at
>>Neopax says...
>>>
>>>

>>> > On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:44:14 -0700, Juan Tootreego <12...@NOTBXpats.edu>

>>> > babbled on and on about
>>> >
>>> >

>>> >>In article <Xns96FBBE1589A8...@216.196.97.131>,
>>> >>pearlsbe...@gmail.NOSPAM.com says...
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>Phaethon <wednesda...@3.am> wrote in

>>> >>>news:2oqtl1dpflu1ls84c...@4ax.com:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:33:18 -0500, Virgil

>>> >>>><pearlsbe...@gmail.NOSPAM.com> babbled on and on about

>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>Phaethon <wednesda...@3.am> wrote in
>>> >>>>>news:ks9rl1tkbdb8su486...@4ax.com:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:46:10 GMT, "Blunt" <Bl...@bluntville.bl>
>>> >>>>>>babbled on and on about
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>This is so fucked up.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>I somehow doubt they (and their ilk) are converting anyone, though
>>> >>>>>>I'm sure there's a ready-made audience out there. f
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>They're all the rage at stormfront.org. It's a jaw-droppingly fucked
>>> >>>>>up-- and busy-- board.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>

>>> >>>>I couldn't help but notice the seasonal theme, scarecrow and pumpkin
>>> >>>>at the top of the page. I almost wanted to call the wife and kids in
>>> >>>>to browse with me.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>The amount of traffic there is astounding. But hey, if they're busy
>>> >>>>posting in there it ought to keep them off the streets, anyway.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Yeah the pumpkin's a nice touch ain't it? Everything's a zionist front to
>>> >>>them, but what's really fascinating is the infighting over the silliest
>>> >>>shit. There's even a thread where people posted their pics to be analyzed
>>> >>>as to what sub-category of white they were; Nordic, Alpine and some other
>>> >>>weird pseudo-scientific shit. Nutjobs.
>>> >>
>>> >>I bet the nazi-bois over at ara could offer sage advice. I bet
>>> >>most of 'em are members....
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > heh, asatru.
>>> > Which comic book did that originate in?
>>
>>No answer?
>

>And I asked in all sincerity.
>I'm sure it was from way back when comic books were only $0.10 (US)

...and gas was $.29 per gallon.

sigh

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>
>
> I invite other Asatruar to add their own links,
>

> www.natfront.com/
> www.frontnational.com/
> www.adl.org/hate_symbols/groups_am_nazi.asp
> www.meta-
> religion.com/Extremism/White_extremism/American_nazi_party/american_naz
> i_pa rty.htm
> www.nazi-lauck-nsdapao.com/engplcd-american-nazi-party-george-lincoln-
> rockwell-speeches.htm
> http://www.publiceye.org/racism/white-supremacy.html
> http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=238841
>

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>
>
> I invite other Asatruar to add their own links,

>
> www.natfront.com/
> www.frontnational.com/
> www.adl.org/hate_symbols/groups_am_nazi.asp
> www.meta-
> religion.com/Extremism/White_extremism/American_nazi_party/american_na

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> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:34:10 -0700, Juan Tootreego <12...@NOTBXpats.edu>

> babbled on and on about
>
>

>>In article <ca53m1parmlcn0hkb...@4ax.com>,
>>Phaethon says...
>>
>>>On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:54:10 -0700, Juan Tootreego <12...@NOTBXpats.edu>

>>>babbled on and on about
>>>
>>>

>>>>In article <Xns96FBE6FF0229...@216.196.97.131>,
>>>>Virgil says...
>>>>
>>>>>"Blunt" <Bl...@bluntville.bl> wrote in
>>>>>news:ayW7f.307392$1i.70678@pd7tw2no:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Virgil" <pearlsbe...@gmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:Xns96FADB441492...@216.196.97.131...
>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Phaethon <wednesda...@3.am> wrote in
>>>>>>>news:ks9rl1tkbdb8su486...@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:46:10 GMT, "Blunt" <Bl...@bluntville.bl>
>>>>>>>>babbled on and on about
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This is so fucked up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I somehow doubt they (and their ilk) are converting anyone, though
>>>>>>>>I'm sure there's a ready-made audience out there. f
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They're all the rage at stormfront.org. It's a jaw-droppingly fucked
>>>>>>>up-- and busy-- board.
>>>>>>

>>>>>>Wow. That's quite the fucking site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Blunt
>>>>>>Practicing my German just in case.
>>>>>
>>>>>David Duke's a regular poster there, no big surprise. They're whacked but
>>>>>these guys take the cake; looks like the master race's family tree don't
>>>>>branch:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.nsm88.com/photos/congress05/congress05.html
>>>
>>>Looks like their "2005" Congress was in someone's basement.
>>

>>But where are their vjiking helmets?
>>
>>All good little nazi-bois where vjiking helmets. Its kinda like
>>their lodge symbol.
>
>

> Reserved for super-sekrit special occasions?

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>On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:21:40 -0700, Momus <catre...@yahoo.com> babbled

>Yeah, back when I could drive around in Mom's full-size Mercury all night
>for a buck.

Yep, back when a car was built properly. Not like the tin foil
wrapped eggs we have today.

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>
>
> I invite other Asatruar to add their own links, which I will then
> combine. I would also appreciate info on failed links.
> If anyone has objections to any site or org then mail me with precise
> details.
>
> Note that listed here are only a fraction of the available resources.
> However, enough should exist here to enable you to find what I omit.
>
> There is also a copy of this on my site at
>
>> >

>> > www.natfront.com/
>> > www.frontnational.com/
>> > www.adl.org/hate_symbols/groups_am_nazi.asp
>> > www.meta-
>> >
religion.com/Extremism/White_extremism/American_nazi_party/american_
>> > naz i_pa rty.htm
>> > www.nazi-lauck-nsdapao.com/engplcd-american-nazi-party-george-
lincol

>> > n- rockwell-speeches.htm
>> > http://www.publiceye.org/racism/white-supremacy.html
>> > http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=238841

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The Death of King Siggeir and of Stigny

The tale tells that Sigmund thought Sinfjotli over young to help him
to his revenge, and will first of all harden him with manly deeds; so
in summer-tide they fare wide through the woods and slay men for their
wealth; Sigmund deems him to take much after the kin of the Volsungs,
though he thinks that he is Siggeir's son, and deems him to have the
evil heart of his father, with the might and daring of the Volsungs;
withal he must needs think him in no wise a kinsome man, for full oft
would he bring Sigmund's wrongs to his memory, and prick him on to
slay King Siggeir.
Now on a time as they fare abroad in the wood for the getting of
wealth, they find a certain house, and two men with great gold rings
asleep therein: now these twain were spell-bound skin- changers, (1)
and wolf-skins were hanging up over them in the house; and every tenth
day might they come out of those skins; and they were kings' sons: so
Sigmund and Sinfjofli do the wolf- skins on them, and then might they
nowise come out of them, though forsooth the same nature went with
them as heretofore; they howled as wolves howl but both knew the
meaning of that howling; they lay out in the wild-wood, and each went
his way; and a word they made betwixt them, that they should risk the
onset of seven men, but no more, and that he who was first to be set
on should howl in wolfish wise: "Let us not depart from this," says
Sigmund, "for thou art young and over-bold, and men will deem the
quarry good, when they take thee."

Now each goes his way, and when they were parted, Sigmund meets
certain men, and gives forth a wolf's howl; and when Sinfjotli heard
it, he went straightway thereto, and slew them all, and once more they
parted. But ere Sinfjotli has fared long through the woods, eleven men
meet him, and he wrought in such wise that he slew them all, and was
awearied therewith, and crawls under an oak, and there takes his rest.
Then came Sigmund thither, and said --

"Why didst thou not call on me?"

Sinfjotli said, "I was loth to call for thy help for the slaying of
eleven men."

Then Sigmund rushed at him so hard that he staggered and fell, and
Sigmund bit him in the throat. Now that day they might not come out of
their wolf-skins: but Sigmund lays the other on his back, and bears
him home to the house, and cursed the wolf-gears and gave them to the
trolls. Now on a day he saw where two weasels went and how that one
bit the other in the throat, and then ran straightway into the
thicket, and took up a leaf and laid in on the wound, and thereon his
fellow sprang up quite and clean whole; so Sigmund went out and saw a
raven flying with a blade of that same herb to him; so he took it and
drew it over Sinfjotli's hurt, and he straightway sprang up as whole
as though he had never been hurt. There after they went home to their
earth-house, and abode there till the time came for them to put off
the wolf-shapes; then they burnt them up with fire, and prayed that no
more hurt might come to any one from them; but in that uncouth guise
they wrought many famous deeds in the kingdom and lordship of King
Siggeir.

Now when Sinfjotli was come to man's estate, Sigmund deemed he had
tried him fully, and or ever a long time has gone by he turns his mind
to the avenging of his father; if so it may be brought about; so on s
certain day the twain get them gone from their earth-house, and come
to the abode of King Siggeir late in the evening, and go into the
porch before the hall, wherein were tuns of ale, and there they lie
hid: now the queen is ware of them, where they are, and is fain to
meet them; and when they met they took counsel and were of one mind
that Volsung should be revenged that same night.

Now Signy and the king had two children of tender age, who played with
a golden toy on the floor, and bowled it along the pavement of the
hall, running along with it; but therewith a golden ring from off it
trundles away into the place where Sigmund and Sinfjotli lay, and off
runs the little one to search for the same, and beholds withal where
two men axe sitting, big and grimly to look on, with overhanging helms
and bright white byrnies; (2) so he runs up the hall to his father,
and tells him of the sight he has seen, and thereat the king misdoubts
of some guile abiding him; but Signy heard their speech, and arose and
took both the children, and went out into the porch to them and said
--

"Lo ye! These younglings have bewrayed you; come now therefore and
slay them!"

Sigmund says, "Never will I slay thy children for telling of where I
lay hid."

But Sinfjotli made little enow of it, but drew his sword and slew them
both, and cast them into the hall at King 8iggeir's feet.

Then up stood the king and cried on his men to take those who had lain
privily in the porch through the night. So they ran thither and would
lay hands on them, but they stood on their defence well and manly, and
long he remembered it who was the nighest to them; but in the end they
were borne down by many men and taken, and bonds were set upon them,
and they were cast into fetters wherein they sit night long.

Then the king ponders what longest and worst of deaths he shall mete
out to them; and when morning came he let make a great barrow of
stones and turf; and when it was done, let set a great flat stone
midmost inside thereof, so that one edge was aloft, the other alow;
and so great it was that it went from wall to wall, so that none might
pass it.

Now he bids folk take Sigmund and Sinfjotli and set them in the
barrow, on either side of the stone, for the worse for them he deemed
it, that they might hear each the other's speech, and yet that neither
might pass one to the other. But now, while they were covering in the
barrow with the turf-slips, thither came Signy, bearing straw with
her, and cast it down to Sinfjotli, and bade the thralls hide this
thing from the king; they said yea thereto, and therewithal was the
barrow closed in.

But when night fell, Sinfjotli said to Sigmund, "Belike we shall
scarce need meat for a while, for here has the queen cast swine's
flesh into the barrow, and wrapped it round about on the outer side
with straw."

Therewith he handles the flesh and finds that therein was thrust
Sigmund's sword; and he knew it by the hilts as mirk as it might be in
the barrow, and tells Sigmund thereof, and of that were they both fain
enow.

Now Sinfjotli drave the point of the sword up into the big stone, and
drew it hard along, and the sword bit on the stone. With that Sigmund
caught the sword by the point, and in this wise they sawed the stone
between them, and let not or all the sawing was done that need be
done, even as the song sings:

"Sinfjotli sawed
And Sigmund sawed,
Atwain with main
The stone was done."

Now are they both together loose in the barrow, and soon they cut both
through stone and through iron, and bring themselves out thereof. Then
they go home to the hall, whenas all men slept there, and bear wood to
the hall, and lay fire therein; and withal the folk therein are waked
by the smoke, and by the hall burning over their heads.
Then the king cries out, "Who kindled this fire, I burn withal?"

"Here am I," says Sigmund, "with Sinfjotli, my sister's son; and we
are minded that thou shalt wot well that all the Volsungs are not yet
dead."

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How Helgi, the son of Sigmund, won King Hodbrod and his Realm, and
wedded Sigurn

Now the tale tells that Helgi in his warring met a king hight Hunding,
a mighty king, and lord of many men and many lands; they fell to
battle together, and Helgi went forth mightily, and such was the end
of that fight that Helgi had the victory, but King Hunding fell and
many of his men with him; but Helgi is deemed to have grown greatly in
fame because he had slain so mighty a king.
Then the sons of Hunding draw together a great army to avenge their
father. Hard was the fight betwixt them; but Helgi goes through the
folk of those brothers unto their banner, and there slays these sons
of Hunding, Alf and Eyolf, Herward and Hagbard, and wins there a great
victory.

Now as Helgi fared from the fight he met a many women right fair and
worthy to look on, who rode in exceeding noble array; but one far
excelled them all; then Helgi asked them the name of that their lady
and queen, and she named herself Sigrun, and said she was daughter of
King Hogni.

Then said Helgi, "Fare home with us: good welcome shall ye have!"

Then said the king's daughter, "Other work lies before us than to
drink with thee."

"Yea, and what work, king's daughter?" said Helgi.

She answers, "King Hogni has promised me to Hodbrod, the son of King
Granmar, but I have vowed a vow that I will have him to my husband no
more than if he were a crow's son and not a king's; and yet will the
thing come to pass, but and if thou standest in the way thereof and
goest against him with an army, and takest me away withal; for verily
with no king would I rather bide on bolster than with thee."

"Be of good cheer, king's daughter," says he, "for certes he and I
shall try the matter, or ever thou be given to him; yea, we shall
behold which may prevail against the other; and hereto I pledge my
life."

Thereafter, Helgi sent men with money in their hand to summon his folk
to him, and all his power is called together to Red-Berg: and there
Helgi abode till such time as a great company came to him from
Hedinsey; and therewithal came mighty power from Norvi Sound aboard
great and fair ships. Then King Helgi called to him the captain of his
ships, who was hight Leif, and asked him if he had told over the tale
of his army.

"A thing not easy to tell, lord," says he, "on the ships that came out
of Norvi Sound are twelve thousand men, and otherwhere are half as
many again."

Then bade King Helgi turn into the firth, called Varin's firth, and
they did so: but now there fell on them so fierce a storm and so huge
a sea, that the beat of the waves on board and bow was to hearken to
like as the clashing together of high hills broken.

But Helgi bade men fear naught, nor take in any sail, but rather hoist
every rag higher than heretofore; but little did they miss of
foundering or ever they made land; then came Sigrun, daughter of King
Hogni, down on to the beach with a great army, and turned them away
thence to a good haven called Gnipalund; but the landsmen see what has
befallen and come down to the sea-shore. The brother of King Hodbrod,
lord of a land called Swarin's Cairn, cried out to them, and asked
them who was captain over that mighty army. Then up stands Sinfjotli,
with a helm on his head, bright shining as glass, and a byrny as white
as snow; a spear in his hand, and thereon a banner of renown, and a
gold- rimmed shield hanging before him; and well he knew with what
words to speak to kings --

"Go thou and say, when thou hast made an end of feeding thy swine and
thy dogs, and when thou beholdest thy wife again, that here are come
the Volsungs, and in this company may King Helgi be found, if Hodbrod
be fain of finding him, for his game and his joy it is to fight and
win fame, while thou art kissing the handmaids by the fire-side."

Then answered Granmar, "In nowise knowest thou how to speak seemly
things, and to tell of matters remembered from of old, whereas thou
layest lies on chiefs and lords; most like it is that thou must have
long been nourished with wolf-meat abroad in the wild-woods, and has
slain thy brethren; and a marvel it is to behold that thou darest to
join thyself to the company of good men and true, thou, who hast
sucked the blood of many a cold corpse."

Sinfjotli answered, "Dim belike is grown thy memory now, of how thou
wert a witch-wife on Varinsey, and wouldst fain have a man to thee,
and chose me to that same office of all the world; and how thereafter
thou wert a Valkyria (1) in Asgarth, and it well- nigh came to this,
that for thy sweet sake should all men fight; and nine wolf whelps I
begat on thy body in Lowness, and was the father to them all."

Granmar answers, "Great skill of lying hast thou; yet belike the
father of naught at all mayst thou be, since thou wert gelded by the
giant's daughters of Thrasness; and lo thou art the stepson of King
Siggeir, and were wont to lie abroad in wilds and woods with the kin
of wolves; and unlucky was the hand wherewith thou slewest thy
brethren making for thyself an exceeding evil name."

Said Sinfjotli, "Mindest thou not then, when thou were stallion
Grani's mare, and how I rode thee an amble on Bravoli, and that
afterwards thou wert giant Golnir's goat herd?"

Granmar says, "Rather would I feed fowls with the flesh of thee than
wrangle any longer with thee."

Then spake King Helgi, "Better were it for ye, and a more manly deed,
to fight, rather than to speak such things as it is a shame even to
hearken to; Granmar's sons are no friends of me and of mine, yet are
they hardy men none the less."

So Granmar rode away to meet King Hodbrod, at a stead called Sunfells,
and the horses of the twain were named Sveipud and Sveggjud. The
brothers met in the castle-porch, and Granmar told Hodbrod of the
war-news. King Hodbrod was clad in a byrny, and had his helm on his
head; he asked --

"What men are anigh, why look ye so wrathful?"

Granmar says, "Here are come the Volsungs, and twelve thousand men of
them are afloat off the coast, and seven thousand are at the island
called Sok, but at the stead called Grindur is the greatest company of
all, and now I deem withal that Helgi and his fellowship have good
will to give battle."

Then said the king, "Let us send a message through all our realm, and
go against them, neither let any who is fain of fight sit idle at
home; let us send word to the sons of Ring, and to King Hogni, and to
Alf the Old, for they are mighty warriors."

So the hosts met at Wolfstone, and fierce fight befell there; Helgi
rushed forth through the host of his foes, and many a man fell there;
at last folk saw a great company of shield-maidens, like burning
flames to look on, and there was come Sigrun, the king's daughter.
Then King Helgi fell on King Hodbrod, and smote him, and slew him even
under his very banner; and Sigrun cried out --

"Have thou thanks for thy so manly deed! Now shall we share the land
between us, and a day of great good hap this is to me, and for this
deed shalt thou get honour and renown, in that thou hast felled to
earth so mighty a king."

So Helgi took to him that realm and dwelt there long, when he had
wedded Sigrun, and became a king of great honour and renown, though he
has naught more to do with this story.

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