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Adonis

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May 17, 2008, 12:01:04 AM5/17/08
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"monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
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> Adonis wrote:
>
>>
>> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
>> news:aoWdnRArbvP8DrDV...@ptd.net...
>>> Adonis wrote:
>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>> CONCLUSION:
>>>>>
>>>>> What if God is purposely hiding from us, for some reason? Atheists
>>>>> should think on it.
>>>>
>>>> You mean like a game of hide and seek? This god has hidden it's self
>>>> real good then! We went to the moon and it was not there.
>>>
>>>
>>> Most likely you are God-blind
>>> due to your hubris and ingratitude.
>>>
>>> Are you blind to love as well?
>>>
>>
>> I wouldn't say I'm blind, my contacts do a very good job of correcting my
>> stigmatism. In fact better than glasses.
>
>
> Are you at least trying to love your enemies?

Mike.........er excuse me, monkfish, why would you care?
>
>
> --
> monkfish
> * Kindly note that the followup-to header is
> set to alt.christnet.theology.

monkfish

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May 17, 2008, 12:57:19 AM5/17/08
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Adonis wrote:

>
> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
> news:0KadnVyn4aJgLrDV...@ptd.net...
>> Adonis wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
>>> news:aoWdnRArbvP8DrDV...@ptd.net...
>>>> Adonis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CONCLUSION:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What if God is purposely hiding from us, for some reason? Atheists
>>>>>> should think on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> You mean like a game of hide and seek? This god has hidden it's self
>>>>> real good then! We went to the moon and it was not there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most likely you are God-blind
>>>> due to your hubris and ingratitude.
>>>>
>>>> Are you blind to love as well?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't say I'm blind, my contacts do a very good job of correcting
>>> my stigmatism. In fact better than glasses.
>>
>>
>> Are you at least trying to love your enemies?
>
> Mike.........er excuse me, monkfish, why would you care?


I like to help myself by trying to help others.
I'm usually quite grateful for everything.

How about you?

Adonis

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May 17, 2008, 1:08:02 AM5/17/08
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"monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
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Kinda selfish, why not help others because you just want to help others? Why
have an ulterior motive? Are you looking to get paid Mike?

monkfish

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May 17, 2008, 11:26:21 AM5/17/08
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Adonis wrote:


It is just a way talk with humility.
What makes you think doing "what you just want"
is better than helping myself?
You seem to have difficulty
in being grateful for everything.
You really need to accept that
there are many beings who are
much better and smarter than you.

Would you like to feel grateful for everything?

Adonis

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May 17, 2008, 12:23:39 PM5/17/08
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"monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
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> Christopher A. Lee wrote:

>
>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 23:14:54 -0700 (PDT), awais.n...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>What if God is purposely hiding from us, for some reason? Atheists
>>>should think on it. Quran.2.35-39 implies that, God ( will not show
>>>himself), but whoever will follow the
>>
>> What if this moron showed some courtesy instead of wiping his
>> question-begging stupidity in everybody's faces?
>>
>> And who gives a flying fuck what something as irrelevant as the Quran
>> has to say?
>>
>> All it is fit for is to wipe the shit off one's arse.
>>
>> Does this psychopath not realise just how much his religion is
>> disliked for things like 9/11, its treatment of women, etc?
>>
>> And does he seriously think his in-your-face rudeness will make it
>> disliked any less?
>
>
> Are you full of hatred thanks to your atheism?
>
>
Are you full of hatred thanks to your theism?

Adonis

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May 17, 2008, 6:23:35 PM5/17/08
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"monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
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> Adonis wrote:
>
>>
>> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
>> news:I8udnZjbLb20ZLPV...@ptd.net...
>> Sounds to me more like a way of exaulting your self.

>>
>>> What makes you think doing "what you just want"
>>> is better than helping myself?
>>
>> There is nothing wrong with helping your self. The motivation is what I
>> was referring to, or did you not get that?

>>
>>> You seem to have difficulty
>>> in being grateful for everything.
>>
>> How do you come to that conclusion?

>>
>>> You really need to accept that
>>> there are many beings who are
>>> much better and smarter than you.
>>>
>>
>> There are a whole lot of people that are more educated than I. Just like
>> I'm no better than any around me, those around me are no better than I.
>> That of course refers to the human aspect. In the realm of skills,
>> knowledge, communication, you know the day to day activities; there are
>> those that have better skills than I, and I have better skills than
>> others. That does not make one better than another or smarter. At a
>> particular skill one could say I am better the you, or
>> you are better than I, but so what? We are still as humans equal. Now if
>> you are using the word "beings" with a religious twist, you are
>> substituting the word "being" for god, jesus, devil, angels or demons. If
>> that is the case I don't have to accept what you say because those
>> "beings" do not exist.

>>
>>> Would you like to feel grateful for everything?
>>>
>>
>> Why be grateful for what I do not have? I'm quite satisfied with what I
>> have.
>
>
> That's the idea.
> Good for you.
> I'm also glad to see that you believe
> in the equality of all human beings.
>
> How did you come to that faith?
>
>
What faith?
> --
> monkfish
> * The followup-to header is set to alt.christnet.theology.
> ** alt.atheism is removed from the groups header.

monkfish

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May 17, 2008, 6:59:22 PM5/17/08
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Adonis wrote:


I'm usually grateful for everything.
Yes, even for trolling messages.

I do my best to love even my enemies.
The real issue is how to love our enemies.

Do you know how to deal with hateful people here?


--
monkfish

Adonis

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May 17, 2008, 7:49:36 PM5/17/08
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"monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
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> Adonis wrote:
>
>>
>> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
>> news:k56dnccQVaBUmLLV...@ptd.net...
>>> Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 23:14:54 -0700 (PDT), awais.n...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What if God is purposely hiding from us, for some reason? Atheists
>>>>>should think on it. Quran.2.35-39 implies that, God ( will not show
>>>>>himself), but whoever will follow the
>>>>
>>>> What if this moron showed some courtesy instead of wiping his
>>>> question-begging stupidity in everybody's faces?
>>>>
>>>> And who gives a flying fuck what something as irrelevant as the Quran
>>>> has to say?
>>>>
>>>> All it is fit for is to wipe the shit off one's arse.
>>>>
>>>> Does this psychopath not realise just how much his religion is
>>>> disliked for things like 9/11, its treatment of women, etc?
>>>>
>>>> And does he seriously think his in-your-face rudeness will make it
>>>> disliked any less?
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you full of hatred thanks to your atheism?
>>>
>>>
>> Are you full of hatred thanks to your theism?
>
>
> I'm usually grateful for everything.
> Yes, even for trolling messages.
>
Yes Mike, there can be a bit of humor in trolls. Speaking on that I see you have
been busy in alt.autos.Toyota again.

monkfish

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May 17, 2008, 8:10:45 PM5/17/08
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Adonis wrote:


Your faith in the equality of all human beings.
You said "We are still as humans equal," didn't you?

Adonis

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May 17, 2008, 10:16:29 PM5/17/08
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"monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
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I do believe I said all humans are equal, yes I do believe I did! In fact I have
a great confidence in that belief. I believe that is faith, a great confidence
in your belief. I have faith in my self that I said I believe all humans are
equal!

monkfish

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May 17, 2008, 11:43:39 PM5/17/08
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Adonis wrote:


You need to read the headers more carefully.

monkfish

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May 18, 2008, 12:39:14 AM5/18/08
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Adonis wrote:


How did you manage to prove that
all humans are equal?

Adonis

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May 18, 2008, 12:45:38 AM5/18/08
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"monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
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Mike, who said I proved it? I said I believe that we as humans are equal.May be
from all the other groups you post to, you got a little mixed up. So, see below:


"There are a whole lot of people that are more educated than I. Just
like I'm no better than any around me, those around me are no better
than I. That of course refers to the human aspect. In the realm of
skills, knowledge, communication, you know the day to day activities;
there are those that have better skills than I, and I have better
skills than others. That does not make one better than another or
smarter. At a particular skill one could say I am better the you, or
you are better than I, but so what? We are still as humans equal. Now
if you are using the word "beings" with a religious twist, you are
substituting the word "being" for god, jesus, devil, angels or demons.
If that is the case I don't have to accept what you say because those
"beings" do not exist."

>

monkfish

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May 18, 2008, 5:28:46 PM5/18/08
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Adonis wrote:


Are you trying to say that you have blind faith
in the equality of all human beings?

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