>> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
>> news:pdGdnSbNwN0cY7PVnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@ptd.net...
>>> **Rowland Croucher** wrote:

>>>> Thorvald Lorenzen, Toward a Culture of Freedom: Reflections on the Ten
>>>> Commandments Today (Cascade Books, 2008).

>>>> Thorvald Lorenzen, currently Professor of Theology at Charles Sturt
>>>> University, is one of Australia’s most gifted theologians. His other
>>>> books include Resurrection and Discipleship: Interpretive Models,
>>>> Biblical Reflections and Theological Consequences (1995, 2003), and
>>>> Resurrection-Discipleship-Justice: Affirming the Resurrection of Jesus
>>>> Christ Today (2003).
>>>> [snip]

>>>> Another profundity: ‘Each of us has, or rather is, a conscience.
>>>> Conscience is the centre of our personhood. It makes us who we are. It
>>>> shapes our identity. It is worth understanding and caring for’ (p. 20).
>>>> [snip]

>>> Now atheists are going to ask what conscience is
>>> and whether it even exists.

>>  Why do you say that? Do you feel that some one who does not believe in a
>>  god to
>> not know? Just what level of smug can you obtain?

> Actually they should, to be consistent.
> But, luckily they don't.
> Even atheists seem to believe in conscience
> and they don't bother to question its existence.

> How about you?
> Do you think you have a conscience?

> --
> monkfish
> * The followup-to header is set to alt.christnet.theology.
> ** alt.atheism is removed from the groups header.

> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
> news:P5adnSnKDNLYwLLVnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@ptd.net...
>> Adonis wrote:

>>> "monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
>>> news:pdGdnSbNwN0cY7PVnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@ptd.net...
>>>> **Rowland Croucher** wrote:

>>>>> Thorvald Lorenzen, Toward a Culture of Freedom: Reflections on the Ten
>>>>> Commandments Today (Cascade Books, 2008).

>>>>> Thorvald Lorenzen, currently Professor of Theology at Charles Sturt
>>>>> University, is one of Australia’s most gifted theologians. His other
>>>>> books include Resurrection and Discipleship: Interpretive Models,
>>>>> Biblical Reflections and Theological Consequences (1995, 2003), and
>>>>> Resurrection-Discipleship-Justice: Affirming the Resurrection of Jesus
>>>>> Christ Today (2003).
>>>>> [snip]

>>>>> Another profundity: ‘Each of us has, or rather is, a conscience.
>>>>> Conscience is the centre of our personhood. It makes us who we are. It
>>>>> shapes our identity. It is worth understanding and caring for’ (p.
>>>>> 20).
>>>>> [snip]

>>>> Now atheists are going to ask what conscience is
>>>> and whether it even exists.

>>>  Why do you say that? Do you feel that some one who does not believe in
>>>  a god to
>>> not know? Just what level of smug can you obtain?

>> Actually they should, to be consistent.
>> But, luckily they don't.
>> Even atheists seem to believe in conscience
>> and they don't bother to question its existence.

>> How about you?
>> Do you think you have a conscience?

> Apparently your under the impression a person who does not believe in god
> is a heart beat away from murder, theft? Prone to violence? You need a god
> to not want to hurt others? You need a god to not take what is not yours?
> You do not need a god to control your actions to those around you.
> Remember man created god. Man created moral code. Man created ethics. It
> did not come from god. Was not delivered by divine inspiration. Was not
> delivered by a prophet.