>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 07:09:07 -0700, Ivant wrote:
>>> If God did not exist we would not be alive if Jesus had not died for us >>> on the cross we would have all gone to hell.
>> If God did not exist, there would be no Jesus and no Hell, but people >> would still hang around arguing about and killing each other over >> which of their many fictitious gods was the "real" god.
>> Kooky
> IMHO that is why God is prior to existence.
No, on the contrary, you say god is prior to existence because that is the only way god could have created the world. With out the belief that god is timeless, there can be no god, there can be no creation story. It is the cornerstone, the foundation of any belief in any religious concept.
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 07:09:07 -0700, Ivant wrote:
>>>> If God did not exist we would not be alive if Jesus had not died for us >>>> on the cross we would have all gone to hell.
>>> If God did not exist, there would be no Jesus and no Hell, but people >>> would still hang around arguing about and killing each other over >>> which of their many fictitious gods was the "real" god.
>>> Kooky
>> IMHO that is why God is prior to existence.
> No, on the contrary, you say god is prior to existence because that is the > only way god could have created the world. With out the belief that god is > timeless, there can be no god, there can be no creation story. It is the > cornerstone, the foundation of any belief in any religious concept.
Do you think someone who loves you dearly will force you to love him back?
God is not going to force us to believe in Him.
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>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 07:09:07 -0700, Ivant wrote:
>>>>> If God did not exist we would not be alive if Jesus had not died for us >>>>> on the cross we would have all gone to hell.
>>>> If God did not exist, there would be no Jesus and no Hell, but people >>>> would still hang around arguing about and killing each other over >>>> which of their many fictitious gods was the "real" god.
>>>> Kooky
>>> IMHO that is why God is prior to existence.
>> No, on the contrary, you say god is prior to existence because that is the >> only way god could have created the world. With out the belief that god is >> timeless, there can be no god, there can be no creation story. It is the >> cornerstone, the foundation of any belief in any religious concept.
> Do you think someone who loves you dearly will > force you to love him back?
>>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 07:09:07 -0700, Ivant wrote:
>>>>>> If God did not exist we would not be alive if Jesus had not died for >>>>>> us on the cross we would have all gone to hell.
>>>>> If God did not exist, there would be no Jesus and no Hell, but people >>>>> would still hang around arguing about and killing each other over >>>>> which of their many fictitious gods was the "real" god.
>>>>> Kooky
>>>> IMHO that is why God is prior to existence.
>>> No, on the contrary, you say god is prior to existence because that is >>> the only way god could have created the world. With out the belief that >>> god is timeless, there can be no god, there can be no creation story. It >>> is the cornerstone, the foundation of any belief in any religious >>> concept.
>> Do you think someone who loves you dearly will >> force you to love him back?
>> God is not going to force us to believe in Him.
> You would like to do so though.
I'm trying hard to make me love God better.
Have you ever tried hard to fall in love?
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>>>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 07:09:07 -0700, Ivant wrote:
>>>>>>> If God did not exist we would not be alive if Jesus had not died for >>>>>>> us on the cross we would have all gone to hell.
>>>>>> If God did not exist, there would be no Jesus and no Hell, but people >>>>>> would still hang around arguing about and killing each other over >>>>>> which of their many fictitious gods was the "real" god.
>>>>>> Kooky
>>>>> IMHO that is why God is prior to existence.
>>>> No, on the contrary, you say god is prior to existence because that is >>>> the only way god could have created the world. With out the belief that >>>> god is timeless, there can be no god, there can be no creation story. It >>>> is the cornerstone, the foundation of any belief in any religious >>>> concept.
>>> Do you think someone who loves you dearly will >>> force you to love him back?
>>> God is not going to force us to believe in Him.
>> You would like to do so though.
> I'm trying hard to make me love God better.
Well you just keep giving it the good ol college try! YOU GO BOY!!!
