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Dave Zero

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> Well, I guess Art and Dave Zero/Blue and some others have answered my
> question.

No need to go slash-happy, either one works. Blue is my real name,, Zero is
my name on this side of the screen. But as discussed earlier, today has been
a lesson in re-defining realities and unrealities.

> You are mostly insane.

Correct. Now if I could only purge this last annoying bit of sanity, it'd be
all good!


> Only insane people go into wild tirades
> about "fresh meat" and "punked out jail-house bitches" etc. etc. etc.
> (blech!) with people they don't even know!
>
You must have a stringent definition of sanity, then. Art seems eminently
sane compared to a lot of the rat-fuckers around here.

> I am as anonymous as I want to be for many reasons.

Most of which you lack the articulation to explain.

> As is my right. Just
> as most of you are. Mainly I don't like insane people getting on my e-mail
> and ruining my day.
>
If getting a bad email can ruin your day, you take yourself even more
seriously than I was. Get a grip. Just add a "NOSPAM" or something. Or
subscribe to a decent ISP with a Spaminator.

> I may have posted here before or I may not have. What's the difference?

The difference would be that in one case we might know you from Adam.

> What does this have to do with angels or religion?

About as much as most of the posts here do.

> Or your current mode of
> insane babble?
>
As opposed to my prior mode of insane babble?

> For David Ellison. Who sounds the most sane, sometimes...No. I have no way
> to cure incipient psychotic hallucinators and highly violent posters. If I
> did, I'd be selling it over the net, spamming every site. I would think
> the best way to "show spirituality" is to act spiritual. Which means,
> loving those who spitefully use you, trying to make some sort of sense of
> one's own personal journey and really not abuse others.
>
> I think people who keep yelling "fuck this and fuck that and fuck you!"
> are simply illiterate morons who can't find a true, stable view of their
> own world.

Well then! Fuck this and fuck that and fuck you too!

> And can't speak English well enough to make valid points. Sort
> of like Neo-Nazis and other blithering idiots.Their minds are numb. They
> keep using fuck, so therefore I can safely call them numbfucks.
>
Stoop to their level, yeah? Stoop any more and you'll have my tattooed nuts
swingin' and swangin' around your nose level.

> I've seen your "smack" posts to others

Are you talking to me? I am the Smack Daddy.

>(Stick your finger up your butt and
> take your prozac?)

The part with the finger is unnecessary from a medical standpoint. And I
don't take prozac, I prefer huffing glue out of a paper bag.

> I think that is really unnecessary.

Do I care?

> Especially from
> someone who seems to at times, have a head on his shoulders.

Oh. Must not be me. I have three heads on my shoulders.

> It makes you
> look like a little boy.

Wait....."little boy". that gets thrown at me a lot, especially for any of
you old farts allowed out of the rest home. Confused.


> In fact all the hate and venom doesn't make anyone
> there look wise, mature, good, spiritual or even sane.
>
Are we supposed to be working at looking wise, mature, good, spiritual, or
even sane? For the benefit of some troll who won't even revela his name, let
alone his cell phone number?

> Shiva offers me a way to a better more spiritual site. Which means this
> one is neither spiritual or very good. Which means life there for everyone
> on alt.religion.angels must be very harsh indeed. Which maybe means this
> site needs an injection of wisdom.

Dude, with your "finger up the butt" references, I shudder to envision your
proposed injection.

And Shiva's pretty wise. Wiser than a collection of numbnuts like us
deserves, probably.


> Maybe that would attract the "better
> class of clientele" it seems to lack? I have seen the harshness. I thought
> that "throwing it up in your faces" might get you to say: "Gee, what are
> we doing with our lives? Are we discussing, or simply raping everything in
> sight to make ourselves feel better?"

We are raping everything in sight, not necessarily feeling any better about
it. We rape for art's sake (small a, no offense, Mr. Copeland)

>As the kid says in "American History
> X" "Hate is baggage." Somewhere along the line you have to drop it.
>
Damn good movie, wasn't that? You must have just got done watching it, what
with your ready quotes and earlier Neo-Nazi references. Norton's a great
actor; homeboy outdid himself in this one.

> I see absolutely no Christian kindness, no Buddhist Right Thought, Right
> Action, no Hindu awareness of karma and it's ultimate outcome. I see no
> love, no honor, no commitment to one's ideals. No religious philosophy or
> decorum of spirituality in place here. I see a lot of fundamentalist type
> conservatism and terror tactics though...

Maybe all you need is glasses?

> Tomandsuny, Pam, Jody Reese,
> shouting their "knowledge" to the world and stepping all over everyone
> else's...sad. (Do we need twenty posts on Christian Prophecy spammed to
> the site?) And Lady Mac! What an outburst. She must have taken my
> statements very personally. Which means, I suppose, she "resembles" my
> remarks.
>
> One need not be a monk or a bodisattva or sexually inactive to be
> spiritual, this is already a well known fact among people who understand
> spirituality. It is more or less a way of living and acting with others.
>
News flash - being "spiritual" is like being "human" - posting different
collections of letters and symbols to a random newsgroup has fuck-all to do
with it.

> Being a demon or wanting to fight everyone or sreaming at people through a
> keyboard are the acts of people, just regular old people. People with no
> special charm or powers of persuaion. So why would anyone listen to them?

I don't know. I don't know any demons who post. Except Choronzon, and he
doesn't post here.

> Perhaps this is why, as Art would have it, so many of us need the still
> small voices of small spirits to begin to speak to us, to harmonize us, in
> order to be prepared for the even more still, small voice of the I Am. It
> is evident to me that not one person on this board has heard it.

It is evident to me that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.

> Therefore
> they know nothing of Angels or their Creator. Because if they had, they
> would be touched by it enough to at least take a moment's pause, and
> consider their language and their venemous explitives. Angels train people
> to be their higher, better selves. Angels train us and make it easier for
> us to stand before our Creator and get the information and love we so
> desire. We need them exactly because of the hatred and small mindedness
> that attacks us daily, on sites like this one and in life in general.
>
I think we need angels more to help with the more important problems than
some fools swearing at each other on ARA, but I'll agree, their wisdom can
help even here.

Oh wait....I "know nothing of Angels or my Creator" Nevermind then.

> That's what I think angels are for. And people need teachers and preachers
> as well, good ones, who lead from the heart and from wisdom.
>
Okay.

> Who is the leader here? This Art person who screeched such terrible things
> at me? Rofocale who says he knows all and sees all but seemingly can't
> understand any of it? Shiva, who understands the troubles with the Bible
> but can't see the encoded spirituality of it or realize that some can, and
> because of this, might be leaders?
>
We have no leader here, we have order by mob rule.

> And why may I not remain anonymous? Have I done something wrong in trying
> to protect myself and family from the terible roaring of these weak minded
> bullies? Fresh meat indeed!? Is that what you people are doing here?
> Tearing into one another like ravenous beasts, for your own amusement? If
> so, I beg you to look at yourselves, your posts and your insanity. Or
> perhaps you need a new group called alt.psychoticmonsters.atlarge.
>
You know, I thhink some group called Project mayhem is already planning on
moving into that NG. We'd better pick another.

> I am a person commenting on what he/she has seen. It looks evil, it sounds
> evil, it reads evil. And by evil I mean it is hurting people for no other
> purpose than for self-satisfaction and hatred of what is good. (and the
> perpetrators KNOW the difference between good and bad). If it sounds like
> a duck, walks like a duck and floats like a duck...well then it is a duck.
>
You are a fucking film critic. No more, no less. You judge sweepingly and
without regard for much more than your own preconceived absurdities.

"KNOW the difference between good and bad"? Let me guess - whoever you are,
you didn't just escape from a Mensa convention.

> I'm sorry most of you feel the need to live in cyber-squalor. Perhaps I
> will just be posting somethings which are healthy and healing and see if
> that changes anyone's sad little tune.
>
"I've heard a rant like this before" - Dogma

Art, go to work, ferret out this shyster before we have to break out the
magic on his ass.

> With regards to the sane among you, who love the Spirit. Who KNOW the
> Spirit and know that the Spirit means love, health, goodness and harmony
> and nothing else. Time to stop giving the Devil his due, and eschew him so
> that he will flee from you. And no. I am not a Christian, but every
> religion has something to offer, if you will listen with open, spiritual
> ears.
>
> I remain,
>
> Grigorius.
>
Can we call you Grisgsy?


dZ
>


Pam

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<SoloP...@nym.alias.net> wrote in message
news:2000080604114...@nym.alias.net...
> Dear alt.religion.angels

>
> Well, I guess Art and Dave Zero/Blue and some others have answered my
> question. You are mostly insane.

I'll have you know I don't suffer from insanity - I quite enjoy it.


<SNIP self-righteous babble that was way too long for a usenet post>

Art Copeland

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Hey Albans

Using another persons name. You sick bitch! I knew you couldn't stay
away for long!


Still your f-in nightmare! And I will be dammned if I waste any of my
time on you, so go fuck yourself.

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

sockp...@my-deja.com

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Mr.Copeland,

Has it ever entered your mind you maybe wrong?

Tom Black


In article <8mkgkf$mrd$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Art Copeland

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Tom,

Oh my God! is this your real name *tom* or another *sockpuppet* name.

Damn sockpuppets!

Now to answer your question, Yes I have been wrong! one time that I can
remember and that was my fault by not digging deeper on the person that
I was looking for. I've had a paranoia problem for years and hate it,
but I will be damned if you or anyone fools me again.

I have already found out who you are and I will email you after I post
this.

Art


In article <8mkl1v$poo$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

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sockp...@my-deja.com

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Art,

I did receive your email. I don't know how you found out so quickly,
but you did it..

Tom


In article <8mkmok$quc$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Art Copeland

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Sockpuppet,

Thank you. I've proved my point..

God Bless and with respect to you..

Art Copeland

In article <8mknv6$ror$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

sockp...@my-deja.com

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noooooooo.......this game is too easy. Make it tougher.


In article <8mkoms$s7o$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

sockp...@my-deja.com

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sockp...@my-deja.com

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Art Copeland

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Sweetheart,

You gotta change your I.P. First, but that did throw me off. You go
girl!
Shall we try 127.0.1.1

Art

In article <8mkqde$td7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

sockp...@my-deja.com

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sockpuppet3,

Hum? People! People! you have it all wrong. Check the infomation
attached to your post. Things must be completely different as mine are.
Both are using Deja.com so click on**View original Usenet format** This
will allow you to read all the info on all posters..

Sockpuppet2

Dave Zero

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> Hey Albans
>
> Using another persons name. You sick bitch! I knew you couldn't stay
> away for long!
>
Well, at least he showed up on "Saintly Saturday", he's got his days of the
week straight.

>
> Still your f-in nightmare! And I will be dammned if I waste any of my
> time on you, so go fuck yourself.
>
That would be smack, not deconstruction. All students please take note.

D. Zero


Dave Zero

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> Art,
>
> I did receive your email. I don't know how you found out so quickly,
> but you did it..
>
> Tom
>
>
Tom,

It's because he's Superman. That's how.

dZ


Art Copeland

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Dave,

No smack just fact! I wasted almost two years posting to this fat F@@k
and dammned if I waste another moment of my time on a crazy person!

Art


In article <B5B35235.1444B%dave...@mindspring.com>,

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Rev. St. Albans/Whisperindave

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Hmf, you've already wasted my time breathing my air...what the fuck are you
on about now? Since when did I use someone else's name for flaming the likes
of you, you big-mouthed panty-waist lying sack of shit? You and the rest
have stolen my name plenty of times. So what name was it that I stole and
who the fuck are you accusing me of being now? Do you really think all this
"I'm the hero of the Internet Hackers" crap really goes over with anyone
except one of your inane lap-dogs? Do you really think I need to hide in
order to show how much I despise you? YOU are the one who showed me how to
trace other people here in this group and find out stuff about them, creepy!
And you are the one who used a fake remailer on my e-mail and told me that
you were "in my system." You so smart, Joe? You're a half-witted moron.

Hey, when you talk about tattooed nutsacks, and yours are so fucking empty,
I just have to react with the TRUTH. You nutless piece of human flotsam. Got
my e-mail? Got my URL? Want to screw with them like some big fucking hacker
baby? Pull up your pants and stop searching for that which is lost beyond
all hope, you ball less motherfucker.

I loathe you.

--
David T. St. Albans/ Whisperindave


Art Copeland

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not worth the time


In article <ujykR8EAAHA.264@cpmsnbbsa09>,

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Art Copeland

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Hey albans,

Thank you for all the new info that was attached to this post. dummie.
You give yourself away so easy

Dave Zero

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> Dave,
>
> No smack just fact! I wasted almost two years posting to this fat F@@k
> and dammned if I waste another moment of my time on a crazy person!
>
> Art
>
As seen here, sometimes smack is fact. Sometimes running smack is a simple
description of truth. He REEEEALLY loves the "fat' cracks too, as I've
discovered.

Dave Zero,,

Creative Coordinator, PM2K
Reverend of Irreverance, ARA
Deacon of Deconstruction, MMG


Dave Zero

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> From Dave Zero, A brave attempt at ego battling.

>
> Correct. Now if I could only purge this last annoying bit of sanity, it'd be
> all good!
>
> G: Funny?
>
Yeah, double funny.

>
> You must have a stringent definition of sanity, then. Art seems eminently sane
> compared to a lot of the rat-fuckers around here.
>
> G: Actually my definition of insanity isn't important. But since you already
> claim to be insane, then I will go with your definition. Whatever you say is
> the ranting of an insane person.
>
Insane people have been some of the great movers of society. Never discount
the insane.

>> I am as anonymous as I want to be for many reasons.
>>
> Most of which you lack the articulation to explain.
>

> I believe that in common English usage :"As is my right," is articualtion
> enough. Get the point?
>
I got that you're making a dodgy dodge.

>> As is my right. Just as most of you are. Mainly I don't like insane people
>> getting on my e-mail and ruining my day.
>>
> If getting a bad email can ruin your day, you take yourself even more
> seriously than I was. Get a grip.
>

> G: Hmmm? A grip like the one you have? I think I won't. Thanks.
>
What grip do I have? I run a nice cafe called "Welcome to the Grip and
Grill", that's about all.

> Just add a "NOSPAM" or something.
>

> G: Yeah, like that really works!


>
> Or subscribe to a decent ISP with a Spaminator.
>

> G: I believe my ISP is decent enough. Too bad you couldn't be decent.That
> would solve a lot more problems.
>
You left decency behind long ago yourself, so judge not, ye zombie-ass
motherfucker.

>> I may have posted here before or I may not have. What's the difference?
>>
> The difference would be that in one case we might know you from Adam.
>

> G: I don't know you from Adam. Nor did I know Adam. So? Is this your idea of
> "getting someone's goat" or "using smack talk?" Or whatever it is that passes
> for wit around those parts? If you knew me, you would treat me like shit more?
> Or less? Try and be specific.
>
I do know who you are (your writing style here is every bit as distinctive
as mine would be no matter how many aliasing and mail-redirecting tools I
used.)

With your temporary anonymity you got a lesser version of smack than would
have been drawn by your real identity.

>> Or your current mode of insane babble?
>>
> As opposed to my prior mode of insane babble?
>

> G: Your wit is about the level of a sixteen year old. No wonder you can't post
> anything that makes sense. Well, that's a slander against sixteen year olds,
> who are damned sight smarter than you. Sorry to all the intelligent 16 year
> olds out there. Try not to act like this monkey.
>
Yeah - I'm no role model, just like Charles Barkley.

FWIW, why do all of you old farts who are allowed out of the rest home
always go to the "immaturity" card to attack me? As if that's so terrible.

>> For David Ellison. Who sounds the most sane, sometimes...> I think people who


>> keep yelling "fuck this and fuck that and fuck you!" are simply illiterate
>> morons who can't find a true, stable view of their own world.
>>
> Well then! Fuck this and fuck that and fuck you too!
>

> G: Welcome to being an illiterate Moron, David Zero, who also proves that he
> can't tell the difference between himself and David Ellison.
>
Believe me, we can tell the difference. You just needed a good triple fuck
blast.

>
>> And can't speak English well enough to make valid points. Sort of like
>> Neo-Nazis and other blithering idiots.Their minds are numb. They keep using
>> fuck, so therefore I can safely call them numbfucks.
>>
> Stoop to their level, yeah? Stoop any more and you'll have my tattooed nuts
> swingin' and swangin' around your nose level.
>

> G: This NG is really all about your nutsack, isn't it? And your
> dog-imitations. At least you admit that "their level" is fairly low, about
> your crotch level, you say. However I would put it lower than that.
>
I think it's also about the nutsacks of others, and it was for a while about
Britney's boobs. But yes, I am still Big Slim D-Dogg.

>
>> I've seen your "smack" posts to others
>>
> Are you talking to me? I am the Smack Daddy.
>

> G: Actually no, I wasn't talking to you. I was speaking to Ellison. I make
> that glaringly apparent earlier on, the part which you didn't read, most
> likely because, as you say, you are an illiterate moron. There are some
> courses you could take that would help.
>
If I am illiterate I shudder to think what the illiteracy rate is like.
Maybe you just don't express yourself well. I could recommend a few good
lectures and articles for you to help.

>
> I prefer huffing glue out of a paper bag.
>
>

> G: Yes, I gathered that from your obvious lack of functioning brain-cells.
>
Ah, but have you identified which kinds of glue I'm huffing?

> Do I care?
>
> G: No, and you've made that abundantly clear.
>
Right. I just don't give a fuck (with my windows down and my system up)


>
> Are we supposed to be working at looking wise, mature, good, spiritual, or
> even sane?
>

> G: My mistake. I thought this was computer cyber-space, not the Monkey House
> at the local zoo...As a matter of fact, YES, you are supposed to be striving
> to BE wise, spiritual and sane. (not simply "look" that way. Monkey's can
> imitate.) Unless you are trying desperately to attain that vaunted "Loser"
> status of your punk street friends you mentioned. In which case tattoo your
> belly and nutsack.
>
I thought this was the Monkey House of cyberspace, in which case I should
fit well (you too, you naked ape). You're the one who said "look", not "be".

Besides, according to the NG this last week, I need no more tattoos to
acquire proper loser status, all I need to do is write rude shit about
people here and the L for loser drops doown upon me.

> For the benefit of some troll who won't even revela his name, let alone his
> cell phone number?
>

> G: I won't revela my name until you revela your name...whatever that means...A
> troll asks questions to get responses from the group. I am answering your
> (lame) questions. I think that makes you the troll. And as for names, I gave
> you my name, Grigorius.

Good name. Like Dr. Magouin saying his name was Leejun.

> I don't have a cell phone. However, from the few
> things you've said in the past two days, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my
> chest.

I wouldn't want the sweat off your chest. In fact, unless that "Britney's
boobs" thread has gotten ressurected, I want no sweat off anyone's chest
here.

> Let alone a name, phone and address so you could make your fun-loving
> threats and prank calls, etc. And if these names and numbers are so important.
> I'd love to see Rofocale's, Shiva's, Ellison's, Pam's, Ladimac's, Tom and
> Suny's, Sishkabobsled's and all the others. Let's all share, shall we? Let's
> just set up an internet friend's address book right here so we can all talk!
> Rofocale should start.

Nobody else will. I'm the only one with the balls (another nut reference,
dude) to put up pictures, phone numbers, addresses, etc. The rest of you are
too scared of bikers annd indians and stalkers (oh my!)

>
>
> And Shiva's pretty wise. Wiser than a collection of numbnuts like us deserves,
> probably.
>

> G: Hmmm? Wise in your opinion? Or in the world's opinion? He doesn't say
> anything I have not heard elsewhere, from other self-avowed "wise-men." But he
> is wiser than a numbnuts like you deserve. You are correct there. Perhaps your
> nuts are numb from the tattooing?
>
Only during annd for an hour or so afterwards. Wouldn't you want a local
anaesthetic if someone was machine-gunning hot needles into your scrotum?

>
> We are raping everything in sight, not necessarily feeling any better about
> it.
>

> G: What is this? An excuse?
>
No. Simple description using your terms.

> We rape for art's sake (small a, no offense, Mr. Copeland)
>
>> As the kid says in "American History X" "Hate is baggage." Somewhere along
>> the line you have to drop it.
>>
> Damn good movie, wasn't that? You must have just got done watching it, what
> with your ready quotes and earlier Neo-Nazi references. Norton's a great
> actor; homeboy outdid himself in this one.
>

> G: My wicked little impish friend. I have seen met and talked with racists,
> neo-nazis and Nazis long before you were a gleam in your father's eye. And
> fought them my whole life. But yes, I did just see the movie. And I think you
> might take a hint from the plot line. Violence gets you nowhere. Screaming
> fuck and hating people won't make you feel any better. So why don't you all
> stop?
>
Go read "This Conversation" - now, why don't you?

>> I see absolutely no Christian kindness, no Buddhist Right Thought, Right
>> Action, no Hindu awareness of karma and it's ultimate outcome. I see no love,
>> no honor, no commitment to one's ideals. No religious philosophy or decorum
>> of spirituality in place here. I see a lot of fundamentalist type
>> conservatism and terror tactics though...
>>
> Maybe all you need is glasses?
>

> G: Doubtful. What I am looking for is not to be seen with the physical eyes.
> I'm talking about your illin'-spirit. I think your spiritual eyes need
> spiritual healing. But no. You'd rather attack those you see as threatening
> your simple little world. So be it. Keep your blinders on.
>
Maybe you need to waste less time judging and observing our spiritual
failings. The only spirits you know about are the distilled kind.

>
>> Tomandsuny, Pam, Jody Reese, shouting their "knowledge" to the world and
>> stepping all over everyone else's...sad. (Do we need twenty posts on
>> Christian Prophecy spammed to the site?) And Lady Mac! What an outburst. She
>> must have taken my statements very personally. Which means, I suppose, she
>> "resembles" my remarks.
>>
>> One need not be a monk or a bodisattva or sexually inactive to be spiritual,
>> this is already a well known fact among people who understand spirituality.
>> It is more or less a way of living and acting with others.
>>
>
> News flash - being "spiritual" is like being "human" - posting different
> collections of letters and symbols to a random newsgroup has fuck-all to do
> with it.
>

> G: Wrong. It has EVERYTHING to do with it. Random symbols they are not. The
> symbols you slammed me with yesterday are ugly, sick, twisted swastikas of
> hate and derision.

They were little pebbles considered to the swastikas I threw your way in
those "What is That?" e-mails.

> You think you are so very, very smart. I've know men in
> prison who could teach you intellect. Men like Hurricane Carter, for instance.
> Your trouble is that you've been coddled your whole life. You are a simple,
> angry subculture specimen who thinks because he had some schooling and watched
> some movies that his wit can be leaked all over a newsgroup like so much hot
> butter, and that people will think you funny and erudite and therefore eat it
> up and welcome you into the fold. (That is when you aren't dripping hot,
> rancid crap onpeople and hoping they will hate you enough to fight with
> you...your "other" "Fight-Club" type split-off personality...yes, I watch
> movies too.) If your life has been tough, I am sorry. But you are acting like
> a pretentious snob. Not someone who has seen something in life and needs to
> share their personal life changes.
>
I'll let all that go because I like your Fight Club analogy.

>> Being a demon or wanting to fight everyone or sreaming at people through a
>> keyboard are the acts of people, just regular old people. People with no
>> special charm or powers of persuaion. So why would anyone listen to them?
>>
> I don't know. I don't know any demons who post. Except Choronzon, and he
> doesn't post here.
>

> G: I was refering to you. You are a demon who posts. So is Rofocale. Oh, not a
> real Christian demon. Just an imp of the perverse. Trying to fight everyone,
> and spit on them, and make people feel bad. Like imps do.
>
I am no imp, sir, I am a homonculous.

>> Perhaps this is why, as Art would have it, so many of us need the still small
>> voices of small spirits to begin to speak to us, to harmonize us, in order to
>> be prepared for the even more still, small voice of the I Am. It is evident
>> to me that not one person on this board has heard it.
>>
> It is evident to me that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
>

> I believe my ass is what holds my torso up and what I sit upon, while a hole
> in the ground is where a troll, like yourself lives? Am I getting close?

Well, trolls traditionally live in caves, but as I said I am a homonculous
and I live in the hypertext folds between dimensions. You need to bone up on
your species identification.

> Evidently you have a lot to learn about Angels and Spirituality and Religion.

Of course I do. The more one learns, the more one learns there is yet to
learn on a topic.

> So from now on, instead of subjecting myself to your snobby teenage outbursts.
> I'll just whittle you down gradual like, with wisdom. Be patient my little
> imp.
>
Homonculous.
And if it's your wisdom, I guess "gradual" it will have to be.

> I think we need angels more to help with the more important problems than some
> fools swearing at each other on ARA, but I'll agree, their wisdom can help
> even here.
>

> G: Then why do you attack anyone and everyone who tries to bring it??? It's
> the little problems, by the way, that start the big problems. You fix the
> "big" problem and let the little ones pile up and suddenly you've got world
> sized problems no one can deal with. Angels are therefore here for one on one
> counseling, healing and "spiritualizing." From the big right down to the
> little problem of why you think I am your enemy, just because I asked whether
> you were truly insane or just acting like a maniac for fun.
>
No, I treatd you as exactly who you are, a former friend/acquaintance who
wennt off the heezy when I referenced his stomach. I've always had at least
some respect for your takes, but you made it clear that we were enemies and
now I treat you as one.

And incidentally - I was acting like a maniac for fun - but would a sane
person consider that fun?

> Oh wait....I "know nothing of Angels or my Creator" Nevermind then.
>

> G: Finally, you make a sensible statement! I will nevermind. By your own
> admission and by what you bring to this forum, you know nothing.
>
I quoted your bullshit back at you, no wonder you agreed. Set yourself up a
videoconferencing terminal parroting your own shite back at you with a
ten-second delay, and you'll find wisdom you can agree with every time you
nod your head.

>> That's what I think angels are for. And people need teachers and preachers as
>> well, good ones, who lead from the heart and from wisdom.
>>
>
> Okay.
>

> G: Agreement? From some flounder?
>
Got something against flounders?

>> Who is the leader here? This Art person who screeched such terrible things at
>> me? Rofocale who says he knows all and sees all but seemingly can't
>> understand any of it? Shiva, who understands the troubles with the Bible but
>> can't see the encoded spirituality of it or realize that some can, and
>> because of this, might be leaders?
>>
>
> We have no leader here, we have order by mob rule.
>

> G: Wrong, the weak minded and spiritually stilted, stunted souls among you
> follow the other's leads everyday. I've watched you for a while. When the big
> dogs stop barking the little yappers pipe down as well. And unfortuantely the
> Big Dogs on this alt.angels news group are for the most part, kill-happy
> Rottweilers who want to tear into every notion of good they hear. Oh, you
> follow leaders all right.
>
You are so five minutes ago. Make yourself useful and go compile all the
shit these last weeks into annother book about the devils in angel guise in
cyberspace, or whatever your topic of study is. That might be fun.

> You are a fucking film critic. No more, no less.
>

> G: You are WRONG about that. I am a watcher. Certainly. But not for
> entertainment purposes. I'm not going to tell another living soul about this
> group. It's more like watching over inmates in an asylum, trying to see some
> pattern we can attack, some focal point where the madness starts and runs like
> a wave through the group. You are one of the instigators. One of the permenant
> trolls. This is not a judgement, my friend, this is an observation. I have yet
> to give my judgement. I let you do the talking. You said you were insane. You
> told everyone you would help Art get the "fresh meat." Sweeping judgements?
> You'd like that to be all this is.
>
What you admit here is that just like me (annd Art, and others I'm sure))
that aside from a few friends whose words you care about, you use this NG as
a dynamic system for purposes of examining human interaction in dynamic
systems. So I'm wrong. You are not a fucking film critic. You are a fucking
cultural anthropologist or a fucking dynamic systems theorist.

I said I was insane - I also said I am a homonculous, and I've said I have
eighty-pound balls with tattoos on them. You need a filter to remind you
when those "I am" statements might just be less than totally truthful.

>or much more than your own
> preconceived absurdities.
>

> G: This is your sweeping judgement. You are speaking of your own preconceived
> absurdities which you spit at people here daily. Why don't you shut up and sit
> still? You can't. You are playing out the eternal class-clown. What you show
> are glaringly huge troubles in your soul, in your personal life and in your
> mind. You are insecure, have little or no self-esteem, are wavering between
> being something good in this world, and holding onto the wretched and rotten
> self you grew up as. It's as plain as day, everytime you speak. You go on
> trying to beat me with your "wisdom." All it does is show me that you are
> offended by the tiniest misconceived threat or attack, because whatever there
> is of "you" is not stable or directed... And you're the perceiver of those
> attacks and threats. Not anyone else. Don't you think anyone reads your
> insecure posts?
>
I know everyone reads my insecure posts. You're just jealous they blip right
over yours because they lack flair.

Can I cut and paste your "You are insecure, have little or no..." quote into
an assignment on proper treatment writing for the Center? I haven't had a
good F grade in a while.

> "KNOW the difference between good and bad"? Let me guess - whoever you are,
> you didn't just escape from a Mensa convention.
>

> G: Right. It doesn't take a genius to know the difference between good and
> bad, and acting according to one's serious decision to be good. In fact I know
> children in wheelchairs with diseases you can't even spell, who have huge
> hearts full of love for the world you despise.

I don't despise the world. I despise your bullshit. See - proof that your
bullshit worldview is not one and thee same with the woorld.

> Who can teach what the Mensa
> membership will never be able to learn, because they can't see beyond IQ. Yes,
> yes, yes, I've seen all the idiocy on this newsgroup about everyone's fancy
> IQ's. What you all don't seem to understand is that those tests and scores
> were invented to make you feel bad about yourself in comparison to others and
> bad about others in comparison to yourselves, by the very pompous asses you
> hate most in this world. They are a stumbling block to spirituality. So drop
> it. No person who understands spirit does anything but laugh at your useless
> IQ tests.

They're not my IQ tests. I don't eve think I ever posted an IQ score here.


>
>> I'm sorry most of you feel the need to live in cyber-squalor. Perhaps I will
>> just be posting somethings which are healthy and healing and see if that
>> changes anyone's sad little tune.
>>
> "I've heard a rant like this before" - Dogma
>
> Art, go to work, ferret out this shyster before we have to break out the magic
> on his ass.
>

> G: Appealing to the most useless organ of the group? And suppose he says "I
> know who this is, It's So and So!" You are going to fall for whatever he tells
> you? Has he ever ferreted anyone else out? Do you know if he is even capable
> of doing anything he says? And what makes you think he is? His pompous talk?
> And why do you need his help? Aren't you man enough to do it yourself? Do you
> know what PGP is,

Yes.

> what a secured remailer is?

Yes

> And as for magic! I am laughing
> in your face about that! You don't know anything about magic. Nor does a
> single soul here. Because you are all poseurs when it comes to the discipline
> and mind-set of seriousness that it takes to perform real magic. And maybe you
> are talking to someone who might call down something worse on your "ass?" I
> can see you aren't prepared for that contigency. Everyone is so far beneath
> your contempt. Magick! Hahahahahahahahahah! Oh, my side! Hahahahahahahaha!
>
Whatever, dude.

>
> Can we call you Grisgsy?
>

> G: Can you spell your name and tie your shoes yet? Can you say your whole
> alphabet and count to ten?
>
No. I keep misspelling it, then when I try to correct the spelling, one of
my laces comes untied. In my alphabet there are only eleven letters but we
put them together in three-dimensional space to create 121 letter-shadows.
Homonculi are clever like that.

> You can call me whatever you want. Or call down demons upon me, or call my
> home if you ever get the number. Or call your friends and ask if the
> refrigerator is running...jerky-boy!

That was actually clever, and funny! See, you should be a film critic, all
your movie references are pretty good. Your spiritual meandering is boring
and overwrought by comparison.


> Whatever you like. Just don't call me
> late for dinner!
>
I'll try not to, but I get confused, time zone differences and all, with
daylight savings time.

> I remain your trainer...
>
I never hired you. And if I did in a drunken stupor then let me take this
opportunity to fire you.
>
> Grigorius.
>
Later, Grigs.

dZ


Rev. St. Albans/Whisperindave

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You got your head up your ass, Arty,

I ain't your Seeker and I ain't your Soloist. And all you can do is guess at
who these people really are, because you aren't a hacker. You just talk
trash and make yourself feel good.

Awful sorry to hear about your kids. But perhaps thankful that such a
miserable creature wasn't allowed to raise them into adults who might go off
their nuts and kill people, the way their Dad seems to be going. I am
supposing you are like "Raine" and "her" kids, in that way.

Get thee behind me, Satan.

Liar.

Art Copeland

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albans,

it's going to take more than this little post for you to bother me.

God loves you

Art


In article <#IWRGOKAAHA.56@cpmsnbbsa07>,


"Rev. St. Albans/Whisperindave" <whispe...@email.msn.com> wrote:

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WhisperingAngelOfGod

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On Mon, 7 Aug 2000 01:59:44 -0700, "Rev. St. Albans/Whisperindave"
<whispe...@email.msn.com> wrote:

>Hmf, you've already wasted my time breathing my air...what the fuck are you
>on about now? Since when did I use someone else's name for flaming the likes
>of you, you big-mouthed panty-waist lying sack of shit? You and the rest
>have stolen my name plenty of times. So what name was it that I stole and
>who the fuck are you accusing me of being now? Do you really think all this
>"I'm the hero of the Internet Hackers" crap really goes over with anyone
>except one of your inane lap-dogs? Do you really think I need to hide in
>order to show how much I despise you? YOU are the one who showed me how to
>trace other people here in this group and find out stuff about them, creepy!
>And you are the one who used a fake remailer on my e-mail and told me that
>you were "in my system." You so smart, Joe? You're a half-witted moron.
>
>Hey, when you talk about tattooed nutsacks, and yours are so fucking empty,
>I just have to react with the TRUTH. You nutless piece of human flotsam. Got
>my e-mail? Got my URL? Want to screw with them like some big fucking hacker
>baby? Pull up your pants and stop searching for that which is lost beyond
>all hope, you ball less motherfucker.
>
>I loathe you.

I see.......quite a bit of shit coming from someone who claims its not
nice to curse.

HYPOCRITE....

I see you have given up and joined the REST of us sinners.
Welcome to the REAL world.....part 2.

BTW.........HOW DOES Ghod feel about your nasty potty mouth now....?
Or did you give him the old heave ho?

Rev. St. Albans/Whisperindave

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Yeah, God loves you too. Not the shameless piece of human shit that you
pretend to be on this board, but the real you. Too bad you never let it show
until it's way too late. I don't want a fucking flame war with you, you
obnoxious monster. I want you to leave me and my name the fuck alone.
Period.

You are not the better man, because you are not a man here. Here you are a
liar, a provocateur, an instigator of flames and a psychotic monster. I
don't know why you do it. But maybe it's the same reason you all do it. You
and Arfocale and Sishkabobslaw and Dave Zero and the rest...because you are
all lacking any sort of self-esteem. It's easy to roast you people because
all you do is smack talk and bitch and moan against other people's religions
and ideas. You can't listen. That would be way to hard for you. It would
mean acting like a normal human being. Hell, you guys can't even remember
the smack you ran down on someone an hour after you did it!!! Like Shiva
says, make notes.

You started the flames by telling everyone you knew who the new poster was.
And just like Raine, you named me. Well, prove it, Mr. Pink Panties. Or shut
the fuck up. As for So-Low, he can shut the fuck up too...or say something
that tells me he's just not another one of your sock-puppets. You're the one
here who knows all the tricks and wants to teach them. Maybe Solo is you?!
Who cares. The guy made a bit of sense. You people are insane. I was done
with you for a month. I told you I'd check in from time to time. But it's
always the same-old same-old. So I guess I'll check out again from your
wreck-room.

BTW, who was your bitchmate in the cell-block? It sure wasn't me, asswipe,
because for sure, had I been there, you would be minus your nutsack.
--
David T. St. Albans/ Whisperindave AKA Boggle.


Rev. St. Albans/Whisperindave

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Fuck you, you rotten cunt. If I thought swearing was "nice" it wouldn't have
much effect, would it? God you are a simpleton. What does Ghod think? Not
what your pitiless Devil-god would like to think...I'm sure. You just want
to play war. Why don't you go smoke another joint and have sex with some
"John" so you can get your kid some lunch money?
BTW, what does your "God" think about your filthy gutter mouth and worse,
your twisted mental state...you fat, chocolate eating, house-bound, nasty
skank? I think I'd love to know. NOT.

So I leave you to your filthy habits. Sick old smelly twat.

Boggle.


Dave Zero

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> You are not the better man, because you are not a man here. Here you are a
> liar, a provocateur, an instigator of flames and a psychotic monster. I
> don't know why you do it. But maybe it's the same reason you all do it. You
> and Arfocale and Sishkabobslaw and Dave Zero and the rest...because you are
> all lacking any sort of self-esteem. It's easy to roast you people because
> all you do is smack talk and bitch and moan against other people's religions
> and ideas. You can't listen. That would be way to hard for you. It would
> mean acting like a normal human being. Hell, you guys can't even remember
> the smack you ran down on someone an hour after you did it!!! Like Shiva
> says, make notes.
>
Do you even have any clue how ridiculous you look here, dude? (Dude being
Albans in this case). I mean, do you see with any sort of vision what you
sound like? I mean, you are a piece of work, seriously.

dZ


Art Copeland

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you gotta do better than this. this is childs play! ha ha ha ha hah
ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

childs plays ROTFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


"Rev. St. Albans/Whisperindave" <whispe...@email.msn.com> wrote:


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